WEBVTT - Man, These Young Republicans Were Saying Some WILD Stuff in Group Chat 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:06.520 Hey there, folks, it is Wednesday, October the fifteenth. Black 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:12.440 people are actually watermelon people. That's just one of the 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:17.160 little gems we got from thousands and thousands of pages 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:25.240 of leaked text exchanges among young Republican leaders. And with that, 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:26.920 welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:27.240 Rope. 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:31.960 This story is everybody's just buzzing about like crazy because 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:34.040 some of these details, it's almost look these are private 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:34.959 messages that got out. 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:36.280 It's hard to believe. 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:38.760 Still in a private message that you would say some 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:40.320 of this stuff in a group of four or five, 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:41.160 six plus people. 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:45.680 It's jaw dropping, and it's interesting to have read through 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:48.720 most of what political reported. They are the ones who 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:52.239 got hold of these text messages. And again these are 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:57.440 seven months of messages, twenty nine thousand pages. And for 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:01.200 me it was jaw dropping, not just the tone and 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:04.440 the words and the language used, but how often they're used, 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:09.920 how cavalleterly they're used, how disgustingly they're referred to. 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:13.720 Joked about it. I was appalled. 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:16.720 You and I had very different reactions, though it was 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:18.840 interesting if you look at it from the perspective of 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.880 each one of our lives. How I viewed all of this, 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:25.960 and how you viewed all of this that's coming to light. 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:27.400 Yeah, and I'm sure a lot of people out there 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:31.920 are having some of those same conversations and experiences about this. 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:35.080 When what we're talking about, if you're not familiar, we're 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:37.280 seeing these are young Republicans. We're not just talking about 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:39.800 people who are Republicans who happen to be young. No, no, no, 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:42.280 this is official group. This is an official group, an 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:46.440 organization that is officially affiliated with the National Republican Party. Yes, 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:50.880 they're called the Young Republicans. They're focused on, yes, young conservatives. 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:52.960 But they have chapters in just about every state in 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:56.680 the country, hundreds of chapters, fifteen thousand members they say 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:58.720 they have. So what we're talking about here are young 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:02.559 Republicans part of this group, part of chapters in the US, 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:06.920 and these were leaders sin they had various leadership positions 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:12.200 within Young Republicans. Now this year Telegram, I don't use telegram, 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:15.640 but there's another messaging app they're all on and over 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:19.160 the course of all of these months, they're having conversations 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:22.480 in which, as Political put it in their exclusive reporting, 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:27.840 this was their headline, I Love Hitler leaked messages expose 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:33.720 young Republicans racist chat. The sub headline thousands of private 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:38.040 messages reveal young geopute leaders joking about gas chambers, slavery, 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:43.720 and rape. That's the headline everybody is buzzing about. Now 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:45.959 we start to break this thing down, Robes. Yes, there's 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:51.519 been condemnation on both sides, but then there's measured and 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:55.919 almost no condemnation coming from one particular part. We will 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:58.760 get into that. But the shock and the outrage of it, 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:02.440 I guess I'm not The language doesn't shock me. 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:03.960 I'm a little. 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:06.800 Surprised that they would put it in a message in 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:09.960 a group chat. This big to be quite frank, But 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:12.760 the tone things they said, how they say them, how 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:16.800 casually they talk about racist things, no surprise, And to 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.359 be honest with you, is not even creative watermelon people. 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:20.800 They go in the same. 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:25.639 Tired, stupid, lazy ass tropes that white folks like this 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:26.720 I often see. 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:28.720 Do nothing surprising about. 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:32.160 This, and my experience was very different in that I 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:37.760 couldn't believe that not only people would be willing and 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:40.520 emboldened enough to put this yes in a text, but 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:42.920 just to even say it, think it, believe it, share it, 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:47.520 laugh about it. I just I've not seen or heard 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:51.760 people talk like this, and so I and I know 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:54.720 you're laughing because but I'm just saying I call me naive. 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:59.320 I just I actually feel sickened by the fact that 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:02.720 I look at it from the This is the younger generation, right, 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:07.480 We're supposed to be more aware of how important and 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:13.560 how how words matter, and how easily things get leaked, 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:17.080 and just being tech savvy and knowing not to go 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:20.080 there do that say that, especially in a forum that 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:21.200 could clearly be. 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:23.720 Screen grabbed and sent. 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:29.040 And it's amazing the brazenness with which these folks say 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:29.599 what they've said. 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:32.120 And look, when you click on Politico. 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:35.680 They have a graphic that's really compelling that has some 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:37.239 of these text messages. 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:38.159 Popped up all in a row. 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:40.120 But just I feel like we should read some of it, 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:42.159 just because this is how outrageous it is. I don't 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:44.839 want to give any weight to it, or even give 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:47.720 any I don't want to glamorize any of this because 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:48.760 it is just so appalling. 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:50.080 But just to give you an idea of. 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:55.600 Some of the things that were said, great, I love Hitler. 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:58.559 I'd go to the zoo if I wanted to watch 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:02.479 monkey play ball. Everyone that votes know is going to 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:06.760 the gas chamber. I'm ready to watch people burn. Now, 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:12.320 it's just they use words that I won't even repeat 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:16.120 and you wouldn't repeat, that are just so inflammatory and 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:20.240 defammatory that I'm appalled that people would put this and 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:24.359 then to think that they're leading groups, that they're actually 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:26.240 organizing people to vote. 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:29.520 It's disturbing on a million different levels. 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:31.160 Hey, we'll tell you some of the context in which 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:34.200 they say some of these text messages were said, because 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:36.000 we have heard from a couple of people who are 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.600 apart acknowledging they were a part of it, but they 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:42.760 give apologies but then not really apologies at the same time. Now, 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.880 in particular, we're just talking about these folks who were 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:49.400 from four particular states New York, Kansas, Arizona, and Vermont. 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:54.440 They were part of those Young Republicans organizations in particular. Now, 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:56.960 the folks we're talking about will get their names to 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.320 you here in just a second. You won't necessarily know 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:03.400 those names, but look to get on just to make 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:05.360 sure we're on the record with who these folks are. 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:09.680 The messages themselves political says. They have twenty eight thousand 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:14.520 pages right, robes of text messages, and in those pages 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.280 they have, they have two hundred and fifty one they 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:19.200 count it specific, two hundred and fifty one instances they 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:24.880 say mentioning the N word, the F word, and the 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.719 R word. Now, I think most of you know what 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:30.360 the R and the F word are that we are 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:33.159 talking about in particular, but they went through and count it. 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:38.120 Now in some of the messages you mentioned one about 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:44.320 monkey ball. Now, somebody on this particular chain was asked 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:47.400 if he was watching an NBA playoff game and the 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:50.560 response that's when he came up with that line you 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:53.479 mentioned Robes quote, I'd go to the zoo if I 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:57.159 wanted to watch monkey playball. Now that's in direct reference 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:02.839 to an NBA game. Now, that is awful. It's terrible, 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.680 it's disgusting. Can't believe you wrote it down. Not shocked 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.760 this dude would say it. I'm not shocked. That is 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:12.040 such a lazy, stupid ass joke. Like it's not even 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.480 it's not funny, it's not clever, it's not cute. It's 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:17.280 like a throwaway, like you're trying to be cool or 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:20.240 somebody that. And to also know that he was he 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:23.440 was in an audience in which he could say that. 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:25.240 He felt like he was in a safe space. 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.960 That is, that is as as terrible as throw the 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:31.320 in word in there for good measure, Like that's just 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:32.880 so stupid. 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:33.560 It is. 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:39.680 It's it's like lowest common denominator BS. And it's not 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.720 not that you want someone to be clever and racist, 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:47.200 but it's it's ignorance. And it's just again like it's 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:51.040 low hanging fruit. It's it's not smart, it's not thoughtful, 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:53.480 it's just childish. 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:54.600 It just doesn't. 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:58.600 Rise to the level of me being outraged at something 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:02.400 like that, Given the number of times I've had to 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:05.720 be exposed to some foolishness like that, it just didn't 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:07.840 rise to the level. So as I'm we're in the 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:09.760 house here, one of us black, one of was white, 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:14.640 looking at this story in two totally different ways, me, 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:19.560 I can't even believe it's being talked about. Like I 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:22.120 understand why I'm not saying from a new standpoint, but 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:25.440 as far as any outrage or getting worked up or 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:28.760 being shocked or how could they or what needs to 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:33.880 happen to them, I'm just okay, fine. Some other people 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:39.199 are now exposed to and aware that this happens. But yeah, 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:41.680 this is this is not a this is not a 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:44.520 big day to hear this. Now, it's disappointing. These are 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:46.959 young Republicans. They're the future of the party. Aren't the 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:48.439 young one supposed to do better than we did? 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:49.720 Yeah, I mean that's the point. 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:53.120 This is the Young Republican National Federation this day of 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:57.719 fifteen thousand members. It's for Republicans between the ages of 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.280 eighteen and forty. And again, we're not condemning the group 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:04.040 with the organization. These are a few people who have 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:09.560 been singled out who wrote and for months wrote just disgusting, 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:12.920 despicable things. It doesn't we don't mean to imply that 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.319 anyone else in the group feels or shares these thoughts. 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:21.560 These are specific people with disgusting language, and unfortunately they 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:24.800 were some of the few at the top that were 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:28.480 leading organizations. These weren't just members who were spouting off. 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:30.880 These are people who actually had positions of authority and 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:33.200 power within the group, and that is what makes it 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:34.679 extra disturbing. 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:40.600 Another example here, someone was making a reference he had 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:44.559 just landed after its flight and said, quote, if your 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.720 pilot is a sheet and she looks ten shades darker 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:51.560 than someone from sicily just end it there, scream the 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:56.760 no word whatever. Watermelon people was used as a reference 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:01.400 as well. Another reference again throwing in now talking about 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:07.040 it potential Indian. Somebody talking about dating an Indian woman, 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:11.560 and then someone chimed in that she's not Indian. And 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:15.920 then someone else responded and I quote she just didn't 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:20.440 bathe often, essentially saying she's not Indian, You're mistaken. She 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:22.400 just didn't bathe often. Those are just a few of 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:24.560 the examples. You talked about the gas chamber, They talked 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.120 about sending people and executing. 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:31.240 There are references to slavery. 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:35.680 And being There was one group that he was mentioning 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.319 another group of Republicans, and he was someone in the 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.280 chat said they were in favor of that group or 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:43.040 favor of that group because they wanted to bring back 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:46.520 slavery like things like that are throughout now. Is there 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:49.400 any defense for this robes in any way, shape or form, 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:52.600 any defense for this language that you could find a 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:54.800 way to give these dudes a break. 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:56.280 The answer is no. 0:10:56.360 --> 0:11:00.600 And a lot of this was so grossly personally motivated. 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:03.480 When one of the members and we'll get into the names. 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.920 Was trying to become the chair of the Young Republican 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:08.880 National Federation like. 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:09.800 The head of the head. 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:13.000 He wrote, everyone that votes know is going to the 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:16.960 gas chamber. And then someone writes, when do we start bullying? 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.160 Then they can say, if they vote for us, why 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:25.000 would they be guessed? We only want true believers. Can 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:28.719 we fix the showers? Gas chambers don't fit the Hitler aesthetic. 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:32.360 I'm ready to watch people burn. Now we got to 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.959 pretend that we like them. Hey, come on in, take 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:38.280 a nice shower and relax. Boom, they're dead. I mean, 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:42.040 this is discuss There isn't even a word to describe 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:45.520 how disgusting that chat back and forth is about someone 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:48.559 wanting to rise to power within the organization. 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:54.800 Okay, is there I don't know. Both sides have condemned. 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.400 And again there's a couple of statements here. We're going 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:59.800 to read you from a couple of the people involved 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:05.240 in these chats. Apologies somewhat, but again, folks, if you've 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:08.720 seen Roges, you've probably seen this. A lot of Democrats 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:12.560 are running to find any photos of these guys with 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:15.920 prominent Republicans, and they're starting to post them already, So 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:17.920 that's what this is now becoming to. They're trying to 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:21.240 make some connection to Republicans in DC or some connection 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:22.400 to President Trump. 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:25.320 Where does that conversation go? 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:27.960 You never be able to prove, right, But there has 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:31.839 been very public racist language that has come out from 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:35.760 pretty prominent people in this country to where it doesn't 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:39.240 necessarily Is it changing people's hearts or just making them 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:41.560 feel emboldened to say what's already in there? 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:42.840 I think it's the latter of the two. 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:45.280 Sadly, I think that we are now at a place 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:49.920 politically where it's not just okay to say things that 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:55.520 were previously considered offensive but actually encouraged because you know, 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.440 we're so unwoke now we can say whatever we want 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:02.440 and say it however we'd like, because that's our right 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:03.200 and we're not going. 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:04.240 To pretend anymore. 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:07.320 And perhaps, you know, look, do we want to know 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:09.480 who people really are? Do we want to know what 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:11.400 they really think and say before we vote for them? 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:18.560 I do so. On one hand, fine, I'll prefer an unvarnished, true. 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:22.360 Account of what somebody is and what they think before 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:24.960 I decide who I want to vote for or align 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:30.000 politically with so transparency is better as disgusting as it is. 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:31.920 My God, if this is what's in their hearts and 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:33.640 in their heads, I'd prefer to know. 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:38.920 That's the thing that bothers me. And the debate, the 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:41.560 conversation about what should happen to these folks who are 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:44.240 in this chat, and there have been consequences, several of 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:47.600 them have lost positions that they had or expected to 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:51.000 be going to the national head of the groups, that 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:53.760 all of them need to immediately resign one hundred everybody 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:55.880 in this chat needs to resign from the organization. Not 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:59.280 sure at least of this recording where all of that lies. 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:04.800 But but really, Rose, I'm so much of the conversation 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:11.360 has gone towards how their privacy was violated, has gone 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:16.720 to immediately not even condemning what they're doing, but immediately saying, well, 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:21.000 something this democrat did was worse. So I don't know 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:23.840 if this day and time, if you see this and 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:26.560 we can't all agree that this is bad and the 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:28.520 first thing out of all of our mouths should be 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:32.000 no language like this should ever come out of somebody 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:34.560 who's mouth or in a text, And then the next 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:36.880 thing has got to be nothing like this should be 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:40.160 in your hearts. Where do I don't know where we 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:41.880 go with that, because I don't want people to keep 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:43.840 this stuff in. I want to hear about it, but 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:45.320 I don't want to be there in the first place. 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:48.280 And I don't know we. 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:49.680 Say stuff privately, all of us do. 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:53.440 Everybody's got one, right, one person you text that if 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.040 your text messages got out, you'd be in trouble. Everybody's 0:14:56.080 --> 0:15:00.720 got one this. The lessons shouldn't be be careful what 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:02.360 you text. 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:05.360 It should be examine why you feel the way you do. 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:06.880 Period. 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:10.600 And so now, as always on race conversations, they're all 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:14.240 gone sideways and look what this person did, and look 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:16.560 what this democrat did, and this is worse than that. 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:19.280 And I know there's a violence element to this, but 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:22.080 this is pretty much racism all around these text messages. 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:24.800 What we're talking about here, I just it's hatred. 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:27.480 And if we're gonna do this, everybody gonna try to 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:29.120 get their political points and then we'll go back to 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.040 our respective corners. 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:34.960 And we have had some official response from several people, 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:35.640 and yeah, a lot of. 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:39.880 Them trying to distance themselves, saying, well, you know I, yeah, 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:42.760 he's from that group. I ain't have anything that kind 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:45.360 of stuff to be expected. That's fine, But the one 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:47.360 that stands out is the one you need to hear from. 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:48.520 Vice President J. D. 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:52.480 Vance have to say, was a little surprised by this one. 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:54.640 Stay here, we'll share it in a moment. Also, we'll 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:56.840 tell you exactly who these folks are who are on 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:00.480 this text chain, and we want to let you hear 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:04.480 the apologies we've gotten from at least two people involved 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:05.400 in these text messages. 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:18.200 We continue our conversation here on Amy and TJ about 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:24.880 these atrocious text messages. Seven months of messages, twenty nine 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:32.560 thousand pages of messages filled with racism, misogyny, calls for violence, 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.840 you name it, anything as disgusting as you could think of. 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:38.320 Pretty much was included in these text messages that have 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:42.480 all been released now Political wrote Politico wrote a story 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:46.240 on these text messages, and there has been quite a 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:51.000 bit of response, but some surprising and I think you 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:53.960 mentioned this before we went to break JD. Vansa Vice President. 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:56.600 Vance's response was, I would just say disappointing. 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:59.400 Yeah, and this is well. 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:01.400 Look and saying out loud, this is a guy, look 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:03.400 at this is a really sharp guy I think is 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:06.520 a really sharp politician. And look, a lot of people 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:09.880 they just look, you have your pilicolings an opinion about him. 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:10.119 But I. 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:15.480 Generally think this dude gets it right, and this dude 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:18.320 presents himself really well, and I look at him with 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:21.479 a certain level of admiration for all that he has 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:23.680 done and how he handles the public. 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:25.960 But his response on. 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:31.399 X was to refer to something that's going on in 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:36.239 Virginia where a Democratic candidate for attorney general there had 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:38.280 a few years ago. It's just gotten exposed in the race. 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:40.720 But a few years ago he made a reference to 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:45.800 another politician possibly being shot. Right, he's apologized for it, 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:47.240 but it's in the middle of the race now. So 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:50.359 jd Vance in his response, made a reference to that 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:53.520 by putting up a screenshot essentially of some of those 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:59.600 threats and said that this quote this is far worse 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:03.359 than any thing said in a college group chat. And 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:07.560 the guy who said it could become the age of Virginia. 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:12.639 I refuse to join the pearl clutching when powerful people 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:15.760 call for political violence. 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:19.480 Pearl clutching, Oh man, just you know what. 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:25.160 Instead of recognizing what happened acknowledging it and saying there's 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:30.960 no place for it. Instead, he deferred and deflected and compared. 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:34.639 And this isn't something This isn't a story where we 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:37.199 need to say, well, they did this, and let's just 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:43.080 deal with the facts on hand and the issue at 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:45.840 play now in the conversation we're having, and I just 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:50.480 it's just it's a classic thing that politicians do, and 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:51.800 it's just disappointing. 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:52.840 I think that's how I feel. 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:55.760 There was an opportunity for him to actually say something 0:18:57.000 --> 0:19:01.399 powerful and something that could actually inspire the people who 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:04.280 look up to him, who do appreciate some of his 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:09.840 frankness and his political directness and straightforwardness. He always often 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:13.920 touts his Catholic upbringing, his Catholic faith, his moral stand. 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:16.879 So I just it was an opportunity that he not 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:22.480 only missed, but just I just feel like sadly destroyed and. 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:25.640 To get I don't know why, or if this would 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:27.720 have come from a different politician, I might have seen 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:28.159 it differently. 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:29.800 I don't know why. It's too bad. 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:32.240 It's the vice print of the United States on this issue, 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:34.720 and this is yes to be expected maybe from politician 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:37.080 we've seen it with the back and forth on political violence. 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:41.399 When something happens to one side, the other side comes 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:43.679 back and says, well, yeah, but you all did this 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:46.359 to our person, and this was worse than what happened 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:48.840 to this person. I just hate we get into that. 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:51.160 The only thing that needs to be said, this is awful, this. 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:52.280 Is viile, this is disgusting. 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:55.400 Yeah, it's not up to us to say what should 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:59.280 happen to them, but we can say this shouldn't be said, 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:01.639 This shouldn't be he felt. What can we do to 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:03.760 move forward? We just have this mentality that we have 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:06.800 to absolutely go after these guys and go after anybody 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:11.359 affiliated and destroy and destroy and destroy. And that didn't Yeah, 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:13.800 he didn't make a reference at all. If I missed it, 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:16.600 I'm sorry, but I didn't see him making an affle 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:18.679 to criticize the comments in the. 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:19.320 Group chatter all. 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:22.360 I didn't see it either. And in terms of who 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:24.360 was in that group chat, we can go over who 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:24.720 they were. 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:26.919 We mentioned they were leaders, and then we can get 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:28.800 to the apologies from two of them. 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:33.040 You won't nobody will know the names, but one, you know, 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:35.720 the one that really really stood out is somebody who 0:20:35.760 --> 0:20:38.800 was a current member, where is it. I don't have 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:40.240 them listened there saying I'll look it up. 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:41.640 You go through the names here we need to grab 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:45.159 and the names are less important versus their titles, the 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:47.119 roles they played. I think that to me is what 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:49.400 stood out more than anything that we had. William Hendrick's 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:53.119 vice chair of Kansas Young Republicans, Bobby Walker, who was 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:56.400 the vice chair of the New York State Young Republicans, 0:20:56.720 --> 0:21:00.480 Peter Judah, then chair of New York's State Young Republicuplicans, 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:03.439 and he is we just saw him as recently as 0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:06.320 a few weeks ago making the rounds on political talk 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:10.720 shows as a Republican strategist. Joe Maligno, General counsel of 0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:14.160 New York State Young Republicans, Alex Dwyer, chair of Kansas 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:18.359 Young Republicans, Annie Kkatie, New York Committee member, and then 0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:22.600 Michael Bartel's an advisor in the legal office of US 0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:25.480 Small Business Association. He didn't say much, but he also 0:21:25.600 --> 0:21:27.960 didn't push back, so that I just wanted to point 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:31.479 that out. Politico did make that distinction, But in terms 0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:38.280 of the apologies, as you referenced earlier, Babe, they apologized, 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:42.879 but then they were upset that their private conversations. They 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:45.000 had to add that, and like, if you make an apology, 0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:49.240 a genuine apology, don't make an excuse, don't defend, just 0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:50.000