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Speaker 1: another edition of mix Shots inside the s WBC podcast studio.
Speaker 1: What day is it? Mickey? Did I can introduced? Stop?
Speaker 1: I missed that. I'm supposed to my bank thing? Come on, Oh, okay,
Speaker 1: and welcome to Bang Big Shots with Everson Walls or
Speaker 1: you rting waiting for a song or somethu. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know here, have a tortilla there you go, That's what
Speaker 1: I want to look at that. But you got tortillas
Speaker 1: for Luis that does Spanish huh radio and television. His
Speaker 1: relatives own a tortilla shop. Okay, ever he runs it. Actually,
Speaker 1: oh he runs it okay. And every year about this time,
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year, he comes in with a
Speaker 1: big box of tortillas and passes him out. Wow. And
Speaker 1: when I was leaving doing Cowboys today, they said, oh,
Speaker 1: take one. It's like I will take a whole package,
Speaker 1: not that you never know when you have to throw one. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: if Texas Tech might score a touchdown, that's right. You
Speaker 1: remember when when they used to do that. They used
Speaker 1: to do that at Tech. It's probably ten, twelve, fifteen
Speaker 1: years ago. And h they used to throw tortillas, but
Speaker 1: they let him get stale or they were stiff and fly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, since you know everything about Texas Tech. All right,
Speaker 1: So here we are and the team was practicing, but
Speaker 1: not all the players were practicing. Yeah, one key per
Speaker 1: person was missing. After Mike McCarthy's morning press conference and
Speaker 1: the players reported Michael Parson tested positive for COVID and
Speaker 1: he is on reserve COVID at this point, you know what,
Speaker 1: it's the world we live in, right, nothing really surprises
Speaker 1: you anymore. If it's going to happen in one week
Speaker 1: as well be this week, this might as well be
Speaker 1: a good week. And so reading up on the vaccinated
Speaker 1: positive tests, if you're asymptomatic and you test negative, you
Speaker 1: can get back within five days. It didn't say you
Speaker 1: had to wait five days. You just have to have
Speaker 1: a negative test, just one negative test the next day
Speaker 1: you can be exactly. So, so we'll see you know
Speaker 1: he was you know, if it's going to happen better
Speaker 1: this week than next week, right, and would definitely be
Speaker 1: back in time for or the playoff game. But that
Speaker 1: rookie sack record might be safe because he needed a
Speaker 1: sac and a half to tie it uh Javon Curse
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine. I believe it was um and that
Speaker 1: Kno would have left the Cowboys a little short on linebackers,
Speaker 1: by the way, which is what's up with O'Neill. Looks
Speaker 1: like he's coming off, okay, so he should come off
Speaker 1: today and he should be ready to go because the
Speaker 1: other thing was yesterday they didn't even practice and they
Speaker 1: put in Javon h j Ron Curse limited with a
Speaker 1: hamstring and he Mike said he would start the practice
Speaker 1: today on in rehab. But the pre pool report suggests
Speaker 1: that it hasn't been released yet. Okay, I know, I
Speaker 1: know that he was out, that he was out there,
Speaker 1: so we'll see how much he was going to do.
Speaker 1: I would imagine limited, but he kind of took up
Speaker 1: Kean O'Neill's spot in some of the linebacker roles in
Speaker 1: their changeup defenses this past game. So Vander has played
Speaker 1: a lot more snaps, played a heck of a lot
Speaker 1: more snaps. So yeah, So anyway, that's their deal. Uh.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm starting to come around to
Speaker 1: Bill's conspiracy theory with the Eagles. Uh, COVID with twelve
Speaker 1: going on, well going on yesterday the game, no by
Speaker 1: by not having to sit guys out, but sit them
Speaker 1: out with COVID, and you can get COVID call ups
Speaker 1: after off your practice squad. You kind of treated as
Speaker 1: a preseason And so I saw one of the guys
Speaker 1: that was on their list. By the way, Uh, they're
Speaker 1: starting right guard Ate Herbig Uh huh. Well he got
Speaker 1: injured in the game, by the way, in the second quarter. Uh,
Speaker 1: and he sprained a ankle, left ankle, it was reported
Speaker 1: in the second quarter. He returned, but he conveniently is
Speaker 1: one of the starters on their twelve COVID, so they
Speaker 1: because he's on COVID, you could call up somebody to
Speaker 1: replace him, right, So I'm starting to come around to
Speaker 1: Bill's world. Cincinnati Cincinnati Bengals, Bengals, what about him? Uh,
Speaker 1: Burrows is out? Yeah, that mixing is out. I knew
Speaker 1: mixing was, Yeah, and Burrows not playing this week he's
Speaker 1: just not good. No, no, no, So how convenient is that?
Speaker 1: Rightw convenient is that that Burrows that mix them out
Speaker 1: come on Suddenly COVID's becoming convenient. And they took care
Speaker 1: of business. They won the overcame the city, so they
Speaker 1: won the division that gets them before seed. And I
Speaker 1: haven't looked at the AFC. I don't there are number
Speaker 1: three right now, I think because I think Buffalo and
Speaker 1: New England are each other them winning improve their position.
Speaker 1: I don't. I haven't looked at it. And that's my
Speaker 1: that's my playing. So it's like I said, kind of
Speaker 1: fish you once again, you've got Burrows out, you've got
Speaker 1: your you're starting running back and you're starting quarterback out
Speaker 1: for a game that you don't necessarily need. You can't
Speaker 1: improve yourself by playing in that game. Yeah so yeah,
Speaker 1: So I mean along those lines, though, obviously you want
Speaker 1: your team. You're all your players playing next week, right, okay?
Speaker 1: And so how much of a risk is it to
Speaker 1: play a starting quarterback this week? And I mean we
Speaker 1: go through this every year that you know that's it's
Speaker 1: playoff time. The analysts. Then now the analysts are saying
Speaker 1: how important is this game? Is it is it worth
Speaker 1: the risk to show starters. Let's let's just they're gonna say,
Speaker 1: what's the risk versus the reward? Yeah, that's kind of happen.
Speaker 1: What if what happened to the old miss quarterback happen?
Speaker 1: You know, So I'm not talking this team, any team.
Speaker 1: What if there wasn't seventeen games this year? What if
Speaker 1: there was just sixteen? Cowboys are gonna sit out last week?
Speaker 1: It's Arizona. Well, if they win the same position they
Speaker 1: might be in in this week, but they were sitting
Speaker 1: but last week to the different the difference, the difference
Speaker 1: last week. Yeah, the difference last week is by winning
Speaker 1: that game, you have the two seed and the risk
Speaker 1: you would you would be hosting two playoff games. What
Speaker 1: you're looking for, Yeah, what you're looking at now is
Speaker 1: you have to have both Tampa Bay and the Rams
Speaker 1: lose in order to move up to that spot. Right, So,
Speaker 1: but you do you don't know because you're playing first, right. Uh?
Speaker 1: And then Jerry said something very interesting the other day,
Speaker 1: well yesterday on his uh fan deal. Uh. He said, yeah,
Speaker 1: the good thing of playing on Saturday night is we'll
Speaker 1: have a long rest. So do you think they want
Speaker 1: the Cowboys to play on the Monday night playoff game.
Speaker 1: Oh you can't do that. Huh, you can't that that
Speaker 1: would not be good. But why would he say a
Speaker 1: long rest as well? I think I think I think
Speaker 1: Sunday game, or maybe he's suggesting that they wouldn't play
Speaker 1: Saturday and he's just saying that you get your maximum
Speaker 1: amount of rest. He didn't say whether long that we're
Speaker 1: analyzing what Jerry said. Maybe wait, wait there is a
Speaker 1: Monday yes, yes, oh my goodness, So think about the
Speaker 1: winner of that game. The TV is just making so
Speaker 1: much money on right, Yeah, this covid dagnavit. We got
Speaker 1: the players. They're not making money, they're paying a lot
Speaker 1: of money and they're getting their way, right, Yes, so
Speaker 1: it I mean, it's possible that you wouldn't know who
Speaker 1: you're playing in the next story. Well, and then there's
Speaker 1: just one Monday night game, so it could be an
Speaker 1: AFC game, okay, or it could be an NFC. Right,
Speaker 1: So so they had to space the games out. So
Speaker 1: because they got a next they got windows having the
Speaker 1: schedule together on which conference is playing on Monday night?
Speaker 1: Say it again, they don't have the schedule to no no,
Speaker 1: because they're gonna pick which game would be more trauma. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are always promam making money. But that's why
Speaker 1: the Cowboys typically And now as soon as I say this,
Speaker 1: we'll go back right off. But it seems like the
Speaker 1: Cowboys often when they're in that wildcard round, they often
Speaker 1: play the Saturday night game and the Saturday night game
Speaker 1: and the Sunday night game are the money games and um,
Speaker 1: but now Monday Night could be money game. Well, I
Speaker 1: mean that's gotta be be Monday games Monday Night. Well, no,
Speaker 1: because it's an ESPN game and so it's not an
Speaker 1: over the year broadcast. I don't know Fox and Fox
Speaker 1: and CBS, NBC difference. It's it's a difference just because
Speaker 1: it's cable and not that there's not as many eyeballs
Speaker 1: and man, if you look at of games on ESPN
Speaker 1: um as opposed to over the year big games like
Speaker 1: for instance, this week, the Cowboys, I mean had a
Speaker 1: huge rating on Fox had a thirty six rating for
Speaker 1: this game against Arizona. If it was a Monday night
Speaker 1: game on ESPN, it would be probably thirty. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: wonder who was the first pick. But maybe they're trying
Speaker 1: to encourage people to make sure they have spy package.
Speaker 1: This would be this would be their moment to capitalize
Speaker 1: on ESPN se We told you this is the moment
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys playoffs unique format. I know this is hard
Speaker 1: to believe, but there are some people who don't have
Speaker 1: esp It's hard for me to believe. But my daughter
Speaker 1: does not have ESPN. Hey, we were we were have
Speaker 1: my brother in law in my sister's house on one
Speaker 1: one holiday and for some reason, she decides to upgrade
Speaker 1: her cable package and she didn't even put the sports
Speaker 1: package on that and you're hosting the Christmas dinner. No,
Speaker 1: we got we gotta call somebody right now, So we
Speaker 1: go visit. We gotta call somebody right now. We had
Speaker 1: to put our cable and stuff in order to be
Speaker 1: able to watch ESPN Y but so that the other TV.
Speaker 1: So that's the difference right there. There are some people
Speaker 1: like my daughter who don't have ESPN. We don't have
Speaker 1: that problem at my sister's house anymore, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: that much. Well, I think ABC better watch themselves because
Speaker 1: for almost this entire season they've been in a disagreement
Speaker 1: with Dish Network. And if you didn't get an over
Speaker 1: the air antenna to pick up the local stations. You
Speaker 1: didn't have ABC over the air steal? Would that be
Speaker 1: Rabbit ears? Well, that the upgraded Rabbit. They put them
Speaker 1: in the attic. Okay, yeah, which was a little known
Speaker 1: thing that they two years ago the season was ready
Speaker 1: to start and Fox was in a disagreement with Dish Network,
Speaker 1: and so Quietos was kept. They allowed you to get
Speaker 1: an over the air antenna to compensate, right, because you
Speaker 1: were otherwise they were gonna lose people. Right, No, I'm
Speaker 1: going somewhere else right. Well, now they started it with ABC,
Speaker 1: and so that's how I get Channel eight here in
Speaker 1: Dallas over that antenna that's up there, and I get
Speaker 1: whatever Bill whether knocks out the dish. I got it
Speaker 1: over there. You see, Vicky tried to figure out his
Speaker 1: remote control and tried to figure out how Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: so it's right there. You don't have to go to
Speaker 1: a different sources. Right on the guide, A guide picks
Speaker 1: it up there you go otherwise he's right, um, okay.
Speaker 1: So here's the other factor. Eagles have twelve players on COVID.
Speaker 1: You're going to assume those twelve are not playing in
Speaker 1: the game, and there are it's a smattering of starters
Speaker 1: as well as not a smattering half three four, five, six, Okay,
Speaker 1: And so gets how Philadelphia approaches this game. Does that
Speaker 1: affect how you approach this well? I saw a headline
Speaker 1: in one of their papers saying, oh, they got enough
Speaker 1: people on the practice squad to call up because you
Speaker 1: get COVID replacement. Yes, of course. So um no, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm going to win this game, and if it's in hand,
Speaker 1: then I'll start pulling. We will win, We must win. Yes,
Speaker 1: when is the name of the game? Very good? Nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty nine, right, which, by the way, nineteen eighty nine,
Speaker 1: that's Jimmy Jerry Jerry opening press conference. Wow. So that
Speaker 1: was a famous line from the opening press which brings
Speaker 1: me to this, brings me Jackson Socks press conference, which
Speaker 1: brings me to this transition. And I wasn't sure how
Speaker 1: I was going to get to it, but I was
Speaker 1: trying to find and I was getting ready to find it.
Speaker 1: And you know, I've got uh an off computer. What
Speaker 1: do you call it a reserve you're talking about? I
Speaker 1: can't think of what it's called. I'm here for you,
Speaker 1: like a flash drive. Okay, all right, And it's got
Speaker 1: all the old articles on Kay that were up in
Speaker 1: the old library. And I was researching the preseason game
Speaker 1: against Denver that here because I was going to do
Speaker 1: something on Dan Reeves. And if you remember Reeves in
Speaker 1: the preseason game against you guys, he was mad because
Speaker 1: they fired Tom and Ellaway was playing into overtime in
Speaker 1: that game to try to win, and he ended up
Speaker 1: throwing the winning touchdown pass, right, So I was trying
Speaker 1: to find it to see what was said afterwards because
Speaker 1: he was he was taking revenge right. Well, before I
Speaker 1: got to it, I found my story that I wrote
Speaker 1: after training camp. It was a long piece on Jimmy
Speaker 1: and what he was like and everything, and I had
Speaker 1: just gotten to the quote from Everson Walls, by the way,
Speaker 1: and I started it off with saying, well, if anybody's
Speaker 1: gonna speak out and say what he's got to say,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Everson Wall. And you said something to
Speaker 1: the fact that, uh that you know each of them,
Speaker 1: Tom and Jimmy had different ways of motivating players. Uh.
Speaker 1: You said Tom would kind of give you the eye
Speaker 1: and that would shake you up. And he said Jimmy
Speaker 1: would grab your shoulder pads and shake you up. That's funny.
Speaker 1: It was pretty good. Yeah. Speaking of Dan Reeves, of
Speaker 1: course he passed away over over the weekend. Um, and
Speaker 1: you growing up in Dallas, what do you what do
Speaker 1: you remember growing up as a cowboy fan? As far
Speaker 1: as Dan Reeves he is concerned. I remember the full
Speaker 1: back pass. That's what I remember? Was that too, Lance
Speaker 1: Lance Rensel and the Ice Bowl? Yeah, it was a halfback.
Speaker 1: That's my half back. He was a half That's my
Speaker 1: first new house was a fullback pass to me. They
Speaker 1: were both say because both that were used the same way.
Speaker 1: Both of them were talented and that's why Tom you
Speaker 1: would use him in there. Both they went to the
Speaker 1: left and that's exactly and they were throw with the
Speaker 1: right hand. So yeah, you saw where That was my
Speaker 1: first memory of Dan Reeves. So when they when they
Speaker 1: talk about him passing on, uh, it's all it's never
Speaker 1: really mentioned, not necessarily as a cowboy, right that was
Speaker 1: talking about him as being a coach for the Giants
Speaker 1: and the Falcon Dude, he's a Dallas cowboy and he
Speaker 1: was a really good player, Yes he was. He was
Speaker 1: one of the smartest players to play for Tom Landry.
Speaker 1: That's why Tom loved him so much. Coach, he kind
Speaker 1: of set that that tone for coaches or players that
Speaker 1: you can rely on on the field. Uh, Springs was
Speaker 1: those was that guy? New House was that guy? Know
Speaker 1: you had you had players on the field that recognize
Speaker 1: situations and they didn't have to refer all the time
Speaker 1: to your coaches. He might have been on the players
Speaker 1: that Tom love. He might have been there first. And
Speaker 1: you guys can help me with him. I'm doing off
Speaker 1: top my head. Undrafted free agent that was that successful
Speaker 1: with him, because yes, it came out of South Carolina.
Speaker 1: Now maybe Dallas Cowboys. Yes, yeah, that's what the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure when Cornell green Um came into
Speaker 1: uh prominent, So I mean he was in that same
Speaker 1: same time yea. But here's all you real Cowboys weren't
Speaker 1: known for that. I mean right right up until and
Speaker 1: he was a quarterback running back at South Carolina. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys actually brought him in. Uh they were going to
Speaker 1: make a defensive back out of him, and they had
Speaker 1: moved mel Renfro to running back and let's just look
Speaker 1: at that. Somebody got hurt and Mela had to go
Speaker 1: to the cornerback, and so Reeves became a running back.
Speaker 1: And see, that's that's that's what you had to admire
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys a scouting staff, they were getting players
Speaker 1: that were you know, they could juggle it out of
Speaker 1: the balls. You know, these kids, these guys were good
Speaker 1: at more than one thing, so they were they were
Speaker 1: almost like not replaceable, but you could put them in
Speaker 1: different holes to and they would field that hole just perfect.
Speaker 1: He was one of my favorite players, but I didn't
Speaker 1: until he passed away over the weekend. I didn't realize
Speaker 1: how what kind of impact he made on Cowboys fans
Speaker 1: in that era. Except when my sisters start tech on
Speaker 1: our little group texts, they start texting, oh no, Dan Reeves,
Speaker 1: and they were talking about how they just loved Dan Reeves.
Speaker 1: And Reeves went to when my one of my older
Speaker 1: sisters was in high school, he went to mac Arthur
Speaker 1: and visited whatever, and she still has the picture with
Speaker 1: Dan Reeves and some of her friends that were on
Speaker 1: the drill team and stuff. But then I went and
Speaker 1: started looking up Okay, okay, like you're saying, most people
Speaker 1: think of Dan Reeves as being the coaching what they
Speaker 1: done in the last four decades, you know, four decades
Speaker 1: as a coach or whatever. So I went back and
Speaker 1: looked at Okay, so why was he so popular a
Speaker 1: player with the Cowboys? And I can answer you that,
Speaker 1: what's that? Why? Yeah? Because he did so many different things?
Speaker 1: Will he was versatile. But then you look at his stats. Okay,
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty five was his first year, thirteen game,
Speaker 1: six starts, and he had three touchdowns. That year, his
Speaker 1: second year, okay, playing a halfback, he had sixteen touchdowns
Speaker 1: that season, and in his third year he had eleven touchdowns.
Speaker 1: And so I did the math on it. The first
Speaker 1: thirty eight games of his career, he had thirty five touchdowns.
Speaker 1: I mean he literally, he literally was on pace to
Speaker 1: be one of the great running backs in Cowboys history.
Speaker 1: And then four games into the nineteen sixty eight season,
Speaker 1: he tore up his knee. And when you had a
Speaker 1: knee injury in nineteen sixty eight, it was not the
Speaker 1: same as a knee injury. And think about what they
Speaker 1: had him playing halfback because Don Perkins was considered the
Speaker 1: full back and that was the primary running position, was
Speaker 1: the fullback. And then Garrison gets there. Garrison got here
Speaker 1: in sixty six, I believe it was. And so you
Speaker 1: had these fullbacks that they were using quite a bit.
Speaker 1: And then before the salary cap, he was a player coach,
Speaker 1: so uh, and then he coached almost every position. There's
Speaker 1: a classic picture of the coaching staff and it's got
Speaker 1: you know, Ernie Stottner and Jim Myers and maybe Jean Style.
Speaker 1: I can't remember who I was in the picture. And
Speaker 1: then so they got their coaching shorts on and everything,
Speaker 1: you know, and here's here's Dan Reeves with his football uniform,
Speaker 1: and think and think about and the thing everybody remembers
Speaker 1: about him when they tell stories is how competitive he was,
Speaker 1: even when they were just playing silly games or whatever.
Speaker 1: He used to have some deal, some trick thing where
Speaker 1: he can uh stand a corner a quarter on edge
Speaker 1: on the side of the table and blow it along
Speaker 1: the side of the table or some silliness like that
Speaker 1: that everybody would tell story is about. But but again,
Speaker 1: the reason I was looking up that still was just
Speaker 1: how competitively was in a preseason game, trying to show
Speaker 1: the Cowboys all right, because there were stories when he
Speaker 1: left to go to Denver in eighty one that they
Speaker 1: thought Tom was grooming him to be the next Cowboys
Speaker 1: head coach. Uh. And it's like, well, no, I'm not
Speaker 1: any longer. And so and so anyway, and and tell
Speaker 1: me if I told you so, stop me if I
Speaker 1: told the story here, because I've told you the couple
Speaker 1: times already. H When he was in the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: with Atlanta the Dirty Birds. Uh so Uh. It was
Speaker 1: ninety eight season. They were playing Denver by the way. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I was the pool reporter for the AFC practices,
Speaker 1: So I had to go to the practice or the
Speaker 1: for the NFC and write a sanitized report and then
Speaker 1: they passed it out to all the meeting. Stop what
Speaker 1: you said that you told this story? I did? Okay,
Speaker 1: it was it was I think it was me And
Speaker 1: ok yeah yeah, well you said R R. Bill wasn't listening, right, No,
Speaker 1: I remember the sanitized report. Yeah. So is there a
Speaker 1: point to that story? Yes, because I kind of screwed up,
Speaker 1: hurried up. Yeah. They had a they had a guard
Speaker 1: that they moved to fullback, and I said so and
Speaker 1: so took some snaps at fullback. And the guy that
Speaker 1: worked for the Atlanta paper made a big story about it. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: uh and uh Dan was hot. Yeah, he chewed out
Speaker 1: the beat writer right. And so when I found out
Speaker 1: what happened the next day, I went up to him.
Speaker 1: I said, hey, my bad, it was my fault. I
Speaker 1: should have checked with you. I just thought it was
Speaker 1: common knowledge to why everybody was talking about it, and
Speaker 1: he goes, well, he should have known better, right. So
Speaker 1: after the game they got beat by twenty points. So
Speaker 1: he is coming in for his postgame press conference and
Speaker 1: we crossed pass and he looked at me, and he goes,
Speaker 1: I guess that fullback didn't have much to do it,
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Speaker 1: all right, so team was on the practice field, Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons not on the practice field. What other notes do
Speaker 1: you have from um the sanitized pool report that that
Speaker 1: hasn't come out yet. Kean O'Neil's off of COVID REFI
Speaker 1: so that helps out great time with the linebacker position.
Speaker 1: And yesterday when they had a walkthrough, jay Ron Curse
Speaker 1: was listed as limited, uh with a hamstring and Mike
Speaker 1: said in his press conference today that he would start
Speaker 1: the practice uh in rehab and then they'll see where
Speaker 1: it goes. Uh. So my guess is he's probably going
Speaker 1: to be listed as limited because they used him as
Speaker 1: a linebacker when they went three needed three linebackers this
Speaker 1: past game. It was Vander Yeah. So he did a
Speaker 1: lot with the tight end. We've got Wilson that that
Speaker 1: can always feel in uh, not necessarily the linebacker position,
Speaker 1: that the big safety spot maybe yeah. And he although
Speaker 1: I don't know that they want him carrying receivers off
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage maybe no, I'm not talking yeah,
Speaker 1: but big yeah yeah so um so yeah. So and
Speaker 1: it was a it was kind of a short practice.
Speaker 1: They might have been out there maybe an hour. Um,
Speaker 1: and that was it. So the week eighteen, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's week eighteen? Like how hard? Right?
Speaker 1: What else we need to know? But the good thing
Speaker 1: is if they're taking the game seriously, they get a
Speaker 1: week of practice. Right, you don't forfeit these practices. And
Speaker 1: they need practice, right. They ain't there yet and it's
Speaker 1: not like they're an accomplished team and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we can pull back and then we'll turn it on
Speaker 1: next right, right, Yeah, they need to work. So were
Speaker 1: you able to listen in to press conferences? Uh? Briefly
Speaker 1: with a Mari and Randy Gregory? Okay, um, what do
Speaker 1: you what are both of you seeing as far as
Speaker 1: the pass game goes? Now? I was going to ask you.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask what was how was the Mari's attitude?
Speaker 1: Because I hear he's very truthful in his and is
Speaker 1: one of the things he said, basically when they were
Speaker 1: saying your numbers and you know, we were supposed to
Speaker 1: have three one thousand yard receivers and now you got
Speaker 1: maybe one and and he's and and he said, the
Speaker 1: numbers don't always tell the whole story. Uh so and
Speaker 1: and he went on to explain about, you know, the
Speaker 1: sometimes the passes are batted at the line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: that were intended for me. Yeah, you know, you get
Speaker 1: targets when the quarterbacks throwing the ball away, but it's
Speaker 1: in your direction. And he goes. And then there's some
Speaker 1: that we just missed connections on um and sometimes or
Speaker 1: in this game, we're still right and he goes. But
Speaker 1: then that doesn't tell you what's happening at the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, and so he was pretty diplomatic about it,
Speaker 1: but he goes, Yeah, he goes. My goals to start
Speaker 1: every season is to lead the league in every receiving category,
Speaker 1: catches yards and touched it, and he's got that ability.
Speaker 1: I think he's he leads. Does he lead the team
Speaker 1: with eight touchdown receptions? I think that's right? Um so,
Speaker 1: and he was, but he was you know, he wasn't saying,
Speaker 1: you know, throw me to damn ball. Right. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: got eight touchdown receptions. CD is second with Schultz with
Speaker 1: six each. So he does lead that category, but certainly
Speaker 1: not the league. Mike gave a pretty did you hear
Speaker 1: mccarthury's steal? Today he got asked the question about the
Speaker 1: running game, and you know, I don't know if it
Speaker 1: was the entire offense. He must have gave a four
Speaker 1: minute answer and basically was saying kind of the same thing.
Speaker 1: It's like my analogy always is, people want to see
Speaker 1: a stat so it's like you got a box and
Speaker 1: you wrap it up and put a bow on it,
Speaker 1: but you got to look inside the box to see
Speaker 1: why this happened. And that He went on and on
Speaker 1: about that today about you know, don't just look at
Speaker 1: the numbers, look at the whys, and he goes, and
Speaker 1: that's what we have to do as a coaching staff,
Speaker 1: he goes. And that's why I learned when I was
Speaker 1: a quality control coach that you take the emotion out
Speaker 1: of the analysis and you just look at that play,
Speaker 1: the next play and the next play, and don't try
Speaker 1: to tie it all together. And I thought it was
Speaker 1: pretty good about the different I mean, there's still no
Speaker 1: getting around no. They have not been productive teams. Yeah uh.
Speaker 1: And and they're you know, they've only had um two
Speaker 1: wins against teams with winning records Philadelphia along with the Chargers,
Speaker 1: and then the Saints may have won if they win
Speaker 1: their game. They are teams with winning records Patriots and
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Yeah, yeah, three of them. That's uh. And
Speaker 1: it could before if the Saints should win this last
Speaker 1: game and then the three of the losses again tim
Speaker 1: a Bay walk off field goal by two, Raiders walk
Speaker 1: off overtime field goal by three, and then this last
Speaker 1: game by three. So they lost three games by eight points.
Speaker 1: So of the games, you look at your back at
Speaker 1: the schedule and you look at the opponents played, and
Speaker 1: which of the opponents if the Cowboys had won those games,
Speaker 1: or maybe they did win the game, whatever you decide,
Speaker 1: you're like, that's a good win. Obviously, Tampa Bay would
Speaker 1: have been one of those. I thought Kansas City would
Speaker 1: have been won, right, they didn't, but they didn't. New
Speaker 1: England was one. New England was I had a high respect.
Speaker 1: What should not have lost to the Raiders. That was
Speaker 1: the bad loss. That was the bad loss. But but
Speaker 1: as far as I lost that you really needed to
Speaker 1: win to make a statement. I thought that was on
Speaker 1: Arizona right, would be in that category. But as the Cardinals,
Speaker 1: so that's a game you were at home Thanksgiving. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So my question is of the beating good teams that
Speaker 1: are have a good chance of playing in the second
Speaker 1: round of the playoffs. Well, and I remember what I though, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: they're they're barely the game. And I remember what I
Speaker 1: wrote against after the Tampa game, the Tampa Bay game,
Speaker 1: that they're going to kick theirselves for losing this because
Speaker 1: they should have won it. They left like fifteen points
Speaker 1: on the field in that game, missfield goals or kicks
Speaker 1: or uh turning the ball over in the wrong spot.
Speaker 1: I just off the top of my head, I remember
Speaker 1: writing that they left they should have scored forty points
Speaker 1: against Tampa Bay. And you put the Chargers in the
Speaker 1: same boat with the Raiders. I do, okay, I do,
Speaker 1: and just just a notch above. At the time, though,
Speaker 1: that was an extremely quality win because the second game
Speaker 1: of the year, they to go to the Championship Cowboys
Speaker 1: coming off a season opening law, you know, and they
Speaker 1: were so unfortunate to win that game because the Chargers
Speaker 1: had two touchdowns called back by penalties that had nothing
Speaker 1: to do. I'm telling what. The Casey's interception was one
Speaker 1: of the biggest plays of the year, that interception in
Speaker 1: the end in the end zone, right, yes, so did
Speaker 1: the penalties even out then all year? I don't think so,
Speaker 1: bro Never, I don't care how you put that. You know,
Speaker 1: that would be very interesting to see the penalty yardage
Speaker 1: and how how critical the calls were. It's the difference
Speaker 1: between yardage, right, and another dience between the critical calls
Speaker 1: at a critical time. That's the difference. You could if
Speaker 1: you could somehow track that, how many third downs did
Speaker 1: we make a first week converted on third downs to
Speaker 1: have it called back because of a penalty. That would
Speaker 1: be a nice statute to research. So the other thing
Speaker 1: McCarthy talked about was the running game and and and
Speaker 1: the fact that would they have twenty five yards? The
Speaker 1: running backs had twenty five yards on twelve carries or
Speaker 1: and Dak led him with five carries for twenty yards
Speaker 1: I believe it was. And they didn't have that many attempts.
Speaker 1: And basically he said, well, here's another thing. He goes,
Speaker 1: we ended and I have to check, but this is
Speaker 1: what he said. Six of our ten penalties came on
Speaker 1: third down. So that's hard to figure. But he said,
Speaker 1: if you look at it that way, then those penalties
Speaker 1: probably ended those possessions, right, And he goes, so that
Speaker 1: means we could have had eighteen more plays in his mind,
Speaker 1: and he goes in that affected the ratio in the
Speaker 1: running game, because if you look at the first half
Speaker 1: of the game, which I can, they had thirty two
Speaker 1: plays for one hundred and sixty two yards, had eleven
Speaker 1: first downs, but they also had six penalties for fifty
Speaker 1: three yards. And if I remember correctly, the first two
Speaker 1: holding calls brought back significant runs, didn't they No doubt
Speaker 1: there would significant runs, not just plays, They were runs.
Speaker 1: And then you get into the second half and the
Speaker 1: Cardinals score to go up nineteen to seven to start
Speaker 1: the second half, and you didn't run the ball. You
Speaker 1: had a botched first down play and then an incomplete pass,
Speaker 1: then a holding call on Connor Williams set your back
Speaker 1: third and twenty, and of of course you're throwing there and
Speaker 1: then so then and then the Cardinals get the ball back,
Speaker 1: found him again, they go forty nine yards and kick
Speaker 1: a field goal. Now you're down twenty two to seven
Speaker 1: with four minutes to go on the third and now
Speaker 1: you're basically having this is the pattern we gotta know,
Speaker 1: we gotta take a play with. This is the pattern
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys in the losses. The inability to stop
Speaker 1: the opposing team, and so without takeaways, without takeaways, and
Speaker 1: as we as we offense of league uh come on
Speaker 1: the field, then we are straddled with with with time,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We can't really run the
Speaker 1: ball like we want to because not only we one
Speaker 1: scored down, now we're two scores down. So we can't
Speaker 1: come out and establish our running plays and our running
Speaker 1: game that we want to. Now we have to come
Speaker 1: out passing the ball. So us not being able to
Speaker 1: stop the opposing offense. That depicts how our running game
Speaker 1: goes and how how well we can use it. The
Speaker 1: first possession, they're third and four at the forty eight,
Speaker 1: they run for uh two where did it go? Uh?
Speaker 1: Elliott two yards? So it had been third and earth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: fourth and two, and they get called for holding, so
Speaker 1: now it's third and fourteen. Good luck with that. That
Speaker 1: was Tyrant Smith's man. Uh. And then the next possession
Speaker 1: it's third and four and they get that weird false
Speaker 1: start on b Oddish when Dack's not even He was
Speaker 1: walking up calling all stuff and he's sitting there adjusting
Speaker 1: himself and they called a false start. Well he was
Speaker 1: didn't you see what he did? He just hit his
Speaker 1: hand on the ball and he kind of did this
Speaker 1: gets back to you don't want your lineman down in
Speaker 1: a stance for very long. Yeah, and then that's very
Speaker 1: very graphic. And then and then their next possession, it's
Speaker 1: third and one and didn't necessarily have to be adjusting there, right, right,
Speaker 1: So third and one at the forty and Pollard goes
Speaker 1: for eight yards and they get called Collins holding. And
Speaker 1: then on first and ten on the next possession, Schultz
Speaker 1: gets called for holding and it was a three yard run.
Speaker 1: So now it's first and seventeen. So it just that
Speaker 1: was the first half, all right, one more you want
Speaker 1: to do it? After the third quarter, third and ten.
Speaker 1: At the twenty two, Dack scrambles for twelve yards, first down.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Connor Williams holding, and now it's second, third
Speaker 1: and twenty at the twelve. Good luck with that, and
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Speaker 1: guess where I'm aheaded after this? What Worth? Nope? Downtown Dallas,
Speaker 1: So okay, Dallas. Yeah, what's going on? Got a number
Speaker 1: retirement ceremony tonight at the American Airline Center. Dirk Nevins
Speaker 1: number forty one. At the end of the night will
Speaker 1: be hanging from the rafters going down there to preview
Speaker 1: that four or five and six o'clock. The pandemic kind
Speaker 1: of put that off another Yeah, it's been two and
Speaker 1: a half years since he retired, right And so are
Speaker 1: you sitting Michael Parsons seat because he can't be there? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Because he was going. I know, Michael, Michael was planning
Speaker 1: on going. That's the that's the worst thing about Well,
Speaker 1: probably not playing the game would be the worst thing
Speaker 1: in Mike's mind, But the second worst thing has not
Speaker 1: been able to go to tonight's game. Golden State's in town.
Speaker 1: So that's a pretty good team right here. Yeah. You
Speaker 1: usually don't schedule those teams for the retirement, you know.
Speaker 1: I think that's the reason is they probably are going
Speaker 1: to have Steph that the retirement ceremony is actually after
Speaker 1: the game, and so they're probably going to have Steph
Speaker 1: Curry say something afterwards and so forth. And or maybe
Speaker 1: Dirk just didn't want to go to a game unless
Speaker 1: Golden State was in town. Yeah, so you know, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys don't retire numbers, do they make? They just don't
Speaker 1: use them. Yeah, seventy four is not used, right if
Speaker 1: you get if you're a rookie and it's usually a
Speaker 1: rookie free agent and you get seventy four. Every year
Speaker 1: there seems to be a seventy four on the roster
Speaker 1: and it's an a defensive linement. Don't get a lot
Speaker 1: of eights out there either, No, no eights. Twelves. Twenty
Speaker 1: two used much anymore. That shouldn't be out there, the twelves,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry they hand out thirty three though. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: just throw thirty three out there like no. But but
Speaker 1: they four. They they don't give thirty three to a
Speaker 1: running back though. Yeah, they always give it two defensive back, yes,
Speaker 1: which is I don't know why that makes a difference.
Speaker 1: Fifty four probably an offensive that's true. Yeah, twenty four
Speaker 1: I think the trainer had twenty four twelve twelve didn't
Speaker 1: get thrown out. Would you be in favor of numbers
Speaker 1: hanging from the rafters at AT and T Stadium. There's
Speaker 1: a limit of how many you can do. There's only
Speaker 1: unless you're gonna get to triple digits, right, because you've
Speaker 1: got all these guys on your team. You got names.
Speaker 1: You got names. Yeah, you got the rings the names.
Speaker 1: That's what the Ring of Honors have. You want the
Speaker 1: jerseys up, you can put the jersey back the name.
Speaker 1: How many of the Yankees have retired? There's a bunch.
Speaker 1: My number park Yeah, I think one through ten maybe
Speaker 1: or something like number. Yeah. They had like every sport
Speaker 1: was being honored in the stadium. Who's that rfk Oh? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they had every sport well because they played soccer there. No, no,
Speaker 1: well they don't play golf there. Oh they had, yes, boxing,
Speaker 1: they would have. They got all kinds of stuff. And
Speaker 1: I remember looking like, man, they shore generous with the
Speaker 1: Ring of Honor. I'm looking around Kansas City is two okay,
Speaker 1: and Denver Okay. The team's kind of look up. The
Speaker 1: stadiums huge, and they just take advantage of the acreage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the levels. You don't have to have a Ring
Speaker 1: of honor level. They got several rings bath. I like
Speaker 1: that of Yankee retired numbers. Wow, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, eight, nine, ten, fifteen, sixteen, twenty,
Speaker 1: twenty three, thirty two, thirty seven, forty two, forty four,
Speaker 1: forty six, forty nine and fifty one and forty two.
Speaker 1: Didn't play for that's twenty two. It's Mariana Roba always.
Speaker 1: Reggie Jackson was thinking it was for for Jackie Rock Robin.
Speaker 1: So I was right one through ten. It was forty four,
Speaker 1: Reggie forty four, which goes right back to the Lou
Speaker 1: Garrett retirement speech. So you think Roethlisberger will have his
Speaker 1: number retired? Everson bit, you will. They'll probably put it
Speaker 1: in the Yankee Stadium. He's still doing the sam. I
Speaker 1: think it's still sitting on the bench. I think it's
Speaker 1: up there already. He's still walking down the car there
Speaker 1: with his helmet family. They're still walking. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: it's a right somewhere here. Okay, So I'm about out
Speaker 1: of time. I gotta hit that tollway's out. Well, you're
Speaker 1: done this out? What the NFL is issued awarding to
Speaker 1: teams that they could lose a draft pick and face
Speaker 1: significant finds if club representatives conduct themselves unprofessionally in interviews
Speaker 1: with draft prospects. The league said a team would forfeit
Speaker 1: a draft pick between the first and fourth rounds and
Speaker 1: be fined a minimum of one hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars if it's determined a club representative displayed conduct that
Speaker 1: is disrespectful, inappropriate, or unprofessional during an what's the agency?
Speaker 1: What prompt did this happen? Is there something that prompted this?
Speaker 1: Or well something recent? You remind team? The league reminds
Speaker 1: teams annually ahead of combine that federal and state laws,
Speaker 1: as well as collective bargaining agreement between the league and
Speaker 1: NFL players Associated, prohibits discrimination based on various factors, including race,
Speaker 1: colored disabilities, religion, sexual orientation, national orient or marital status.
Speaker 1: Those subjects are off limit. Okay, So whoever asked dak
Speaker 1: Ords the question about his mom probably shouldn't. That's that's
Speaker 1: the one that popped mind. Yeah, for me, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure we can talk about that off there, Okay, And
Speaker 1: that's gonna wrap up. Shot. Vicky Chris he was like
Speaker 1: the down right, I just don't Yeah, okay, So we're
Speaker 1: gonna be maybe back together again tomorrow I think thirty. Okay,
Speaker 1: and we'll see you again tomorrow one thirty on mix
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