WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Around The Horn 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:04.760 The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:12.800 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:16.959 Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:22.239 official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:35.400 and Nicky Spagnola. And here we are. It's time for 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:41.280 another edition of mix Shots inside the s WBC podcast studio. 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:45.120 What day is it? Mickey? Did I can introduced? Stop? 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:49.560 I missed that. I'm supposed to my bank thing? Come on, Oh, okay, 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:54.080 and welcome to Bang Big Shots with Everson Walls or 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:58.320 you rting waiting for a song or somethu. Yeah, you 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:00.920 know here, have a tortilla there you go, That's what 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:02.640 I want to look at that. But you got tortillas 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:07.800 for Luis that does Spanish huh radio and television. His 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:12.760 relatives own a tortilla shop. Okay, ever he runs it. Actually, 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:15.680 oh he runs it okay. And every year about this time, 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:17.880 the beginning of the year, he comes in with a 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:21.319 big box of tortillas and passes him out. Wow. And 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:25.000 when I was leaving doing Cowboys today, they said, oh, 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:27.520 take one. It's like I will take a whole package, 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:31.240 not that you never know when you have to throw one. Yeah, well, 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:33.920 if Texas Tech might score a touchdown, that's right. You 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:36.160 remember when when they used to do that. They used 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:39.280 to do that at Tech. It's probably ten, twelve, fifteen 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:43.920 years ago. And h they used to throw tortillas, but 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:47.440 they let him get stale or they were stiff and fly. Yeah, 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:51.880 that's right, since you know everything about Texas Tech. All right, 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:56.240 So here we are and the team was practicing, but 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.880 not all the players were practicing. Yeah, one key per 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:06.920 person was missing. After Mike McCarthy's morning press conference and 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:13.000 the players reported Michael Parson tested positive for COVID and 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:18.200 he is on reserve COVID at this point, you know what, 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:22.559 it's the world we live in, right, nothing really surprises 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:25.320 you anymore. If it's going to happen in one week 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:27.360 as well be this week, this might as well be 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:33.240 a good week. And so reading up on the vaccinated 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:39.160 positive tests, if you're asymptomatic and you test negative, you 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.920 can get back within five days. It didn't say you 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:44.840 had to wait five days. You just have to have 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.919 a negative test, just one negative test the next day 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:52.720 you can be exactly. So, so we'll see you know 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.040 he was you know, if it's going to happen better 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:59.000 this week than next week, right, and would definitely be 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:04.440 back in time for or the playoff game. But that 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:09.559 rookie sack record might be safe because he needed a 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:13.000 sac and a half to tie it uh Javon Curse 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:18.000 nineteen ninety nine. I believe it was um and that 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:23.840 Kno would have left the Cowboys a little short on linebackers, 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:27.520 by the way, which is what's up with O'Neill. Looks 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:30.160 like he's coming off, okay, so he should come off 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.600 today and he should be ready to go because the 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:36.840 other thing was yesterday they didn't even practice and they 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:40.320 put in Javon h j Ron Curse limited with a 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:45.280 hamstring and he Mike said he would start the practice 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:51.320 today on in rehab. But the pre pool report suggests 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:54.680 that it hasn't been released yet. Okay, I know, I 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:58.240 know that he was out, that he was out there, 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:01.000 so we'll see how much he was going to do. 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:06.200 I would imagine limited, but he kind of took up 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:10.400 Kean O'Neill's spot in some of the linebacker roles in 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:15.640 their changeup defenses this past game. So Vander has played 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:17.520 a lot more snaps, played a heck of a lot 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:22.960 more snaps. So yeah, So anyway, that's their deal. Uh. 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:27.760 And by the way, I'm starting to come around to 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:33.920 Bill's conspiracy theory with the Eagles. Uh, COVID with twelve 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:39.440 going on, well going on yesterday the game, no by 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:43.520 by not having to sit guys out, but sit them 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:47.799 out with COVID, and you can get COVID call ups 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:51.040 after off your practice squad. You kind of treated as 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:54.000 a preseason And so I saw one of the guys 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:57.920 that was on their list. By the way, Uh, they're 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:02.279 starting right guard Ate Herbig Uh huh. Well he got 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:07.279 injured in the game, by the way, in the second quarter. Uh, 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:11.800 and he sprained a ankle, left ankle, it was reported 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:19.080 in the second quarter. He returned, but he conveniently is 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:25.840 one of the starters on their twelve COVID, so they 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:29.120 because he's on COVID, you could call up somebody to 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:32.600 replace him, right, So I'm starting to come around to 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:38.760 Bill's world. Cincinnati Cincinnati Bengals, Bengals, what about him? Uh, 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:42.560 Burrows is out? Yeah, that mixing is out. I knew 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.680 mixing was, Yeah, and Burrows not playing this week he's 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:49.960 just not good. No, no, no, So how convenient is that? 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:53.920 Rightw convenient is that that Burrows that mix them out 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:58.240 come on Suddenly COVID's becoming convenient. And they took care 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:00.680 of business. They won the overcame the city, so they 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:02.880 won the division that gets them before seed. And I 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:08.040 haven't looked at the AFC. I don't there are number 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:11.719 three right now, I think because I think Buffalo and 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:16.400 New England are each other them winning improve their position. 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:18.440 I don't. I haven't looked at it. And that's my 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:20.719 that's my playing. So it's like I said, kind of 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.920 fish you once again, you've got Burrows out, you've got 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:27.400 your you're starting running back and you're starting quarterback out 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:29.760 for a game that you don't necessarily need. You can't 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:35.240 improve yourself by playing in that game. Yeah so yeah, 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:39.359 So I mean along those lines, though, obviously you want 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:43.719 your team. You're all your players playing next week, right, okay? 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:47.239 And so how much of a risk is it to 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:51.800 play a starting quarterback this week? And I mean we 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:55.640 go through this every year that you know that's it's 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.240 playoff time. The analysts. Then now the analysts are saying 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:01.360 how important is this game? Is it is it worth 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:07.159 the risk to show starters. Let's let's just they're gonna say, 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:11.240 what's the risk versus the reward? Yeah, that's kind of happen. 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:14.320 What if what happened to the old miss quarterback happen? 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:17.640 You know, So I'm not talking this team, any team. 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:21.760 What if there wasn't seventeen games this year? What if 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:25.040 there was just sixteen? Cowboys are gonna sit out last week? 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:28.720 It's Arizona. Well, if they win the same position they 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:32.520 might be in in this week, but they were sitting 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:36.360 but last week to the different the difference, the difference 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:39.840 last week. Yeah, the difference last week is by winning 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:43.040 that game, you have the two seed and the risk 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:46.680 you would you would be hosting two playoff games. What 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.120 you're looking for, Yeah, what you're looking at now is 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:54.160 you have to have both Tampa Bay and the Rams 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:58.880 lose in order to move up to that spot. Right, So, 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:04.400 but you do you don't know because you're playing first, right. Uh? 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:07.920 And then Jerry said something very interesting the other day, 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:13.480 well yesterday on his uh fan deal. Uh. He said, yeah, 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:15.840 the good thing of playing on Saturday night is we'll 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:20.440 have a long rest. So do you think they want 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:23.360 the Cowboys to play on the Monday night playoff game. 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:29.280 Oh you can't do that. Huh, you can't that that 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:32.040 would not be good. But why would he say a 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:34.240 long rest as well? I think I think I think 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:42.600 Sunday game, or maybe he's suggesting that they wouldn't play 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:46.640 Saturday and he's just saying that you get your maximum 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:52.880 amount of rest. He didn't say whether long that we're 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:58.840 analyzing what Jerry said. Maybe wait, wait there is a 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:02.600 Monday yes, yes, oh my goodness, So think about the 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:04.800 winner of that game. The TV is just making so 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:08.680 much money on right, Yeah, this covid dagnavit. We got 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:11.439 the players. They're not making money, they're paying a lot 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:15.120 of money and they're getting their way, right, Yes, so 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:17.440 it I mean, it's possible that you wouldn't know who 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:19.960 you're playing in the next story. Well, and then there's 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:21.920 just one Monday night game, so it could be an 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:24.880 AFC game, okay, or it could be an NFC. Right, 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:28.000 So so they had to space the games out. So 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.760 because they got a next they got windows having the 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:34.480 schedule together on which conference is playing on Monday night? 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:37.679 Say it again, they don't have the schedule to no no, 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:42.160 because they're gonna pick which game would be more trauma. Yeah, 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:46.320 the Cowboys are always promam making money. But that's why 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:50.320 the Cowboys typically And now as soon as I say this, 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:54.680 we'll go back right off. But it seems like the 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:58.360 Cowboys often when they're in that wildcard round, they often 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:02.000 play the Saturday night game and the Saturday night game 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:06.120 and the Sunday night game are the money games and um, 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.840 but now Monday Night could be money game. Well, I 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:11.680 mean that's gotta be be Monday games Monday Night. Well, no, 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:15.280 because it's an ESPN game and so it's not an 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:19.400 over the year broadcast. I don't know Fox and Fox 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:25.080 and CBS, NBC difference. It's it's a difference just because 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:29.079 it's cable and not that there's not as many eyeballs 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:32.640 and man, if you look at of games on ESPN 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:36.080 um as opposed to over the year big games like 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:39.720 for instance, this week, the Cowboys, I mean had a 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:43.800 huge rating on Fox had a thirty six rating for 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:47.120 this game against Arizona. If it was a Monday night 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:51.960 game on ESPN, it would be probably thirty. Yeah. I 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:56.679 wonder who was the first pick. But maybe they're trying 0:10:56.720 --> 0:11:01.920 to encourage people to make sure they have spy package. 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.800 This would be this would be their moment to capitalize 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:09.520 on ESPN se We told you this is the moment 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:15.120 Dallas Cowboys playoffs unique format. I know this is hard 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:17.840 to believe, but there are some people who don't have 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:22.079 esp It's hard for me to believe. But my daughter 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:24.559 does not have ESPN. Hey, we were we were have 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:26.640 my brother in law in my sister's house on one 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:30.319 one holiday and for some reason, she decides to upgrade 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:32.800 her cable package and she didn't even put the sports 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:37.199 package on that and you're hosting the Christmas dinner. No, 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:39.960 we got we gotta call somebody right now, So we 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:42.800 go visit. We gotta call somebody right now. We had 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:47.800 to put our cable and stuff in order to be 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:51.560 able to watch ESPN Y but so that the other TV. 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.920 So that's the difference right there. There are some people 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:58.480 like my daughter who don't have ESPN. We don't have 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:00.720 that problem at my sister's house anymore, I'll tell you 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:07.160 that much. Well, I think ABC better watch themselves because 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:12.920 for almost this entire season they've been in a disagreement 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:16.560 with Dish Network. And if you didn't get an over 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:20.600 the air antenna to pick up the local stations. You 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:24.280 didn't have ABC over the air steal? Would that be 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:28.640 Rabbit ears? Well, that the upgraded Rabbit. They put them 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:31.440 in the attic. Okay, yeah, which was a little known 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:38.280 thing that they two years ago the season was ready 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:42.840 to start and Fox was in a disagreement with Dish Network, 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:48.240 and so Quietos was kept. They allowed you to get 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:51.960 an over the air antenna to compensate, right, because you 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.840 were otherwise they were gonna lose people. Right, No, I'm 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:58.559 going somewhere else right. Well, now they started it with ABC, 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:03.640 and so that's how I get Channel eight here in 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:07.920 Dallas over that antenna that's up there, and I get 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:12.320 whatever Bill whether knocks out the dish. I got it 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:15.240 over there. You see, Vicky tried to figure out his 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:19.760 remote control and tried to figure out how Okay, all right, 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:21.120 so it's right there. You don't have to go to 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:25.959 a different sources. Right on the guide, A guide picks 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:31.720 it up there you go otherwise he's right, um, okay. 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:36.840 So here's the other factor. Eagles have twelve players on COVID. 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.120 You're going to assume those twelve are not playing in 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:42.480 the game, and there are it's a smattering of starters 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:48.520 as well as not a smattering half three four, five, six, Okay, 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:52.520 And so gets how Philadelphia approaches this game. Does that 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:56.280 affect how you approach this well? I saw a headline 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:59.880 in one of their papers saying, oh, they got enough 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:03.720 people on the practice squad to call up because you 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:09.439 get COVID replacement. Yes, of course. So um no, I'm 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:13.679 I'm going to win this game, and if it's in hand, 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:17.400 then I'll start pulling. We will win, We must win. Yes, 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.720 when is the name of the game? Very good? Nineteen 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:24.360 eighty nine, right, which, by the way, nineteen eighty nine, 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:32.520 that's Jimmy Jerry Jerry opening press conference. Wow. So that 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:36.040 was a famous line from the opening press which brings 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:40.680 me to this, brings me Jackson Socks press conference, which 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:43.680 brings me to this transition. And I wasn't sure how 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:45.760 I was going to get to it, but I was 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.440 trying to find and I was getting ready to find it. 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:55.000 And you know, I've got uh an off computer. What 0:14:55.040 --> 0:15:00.440 do you call it a reserve you're talking about? I 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:06.520 can't think of what it's called. I'm here for you, 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.600 like a flash drive. Okay, all right, And it's got 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:12.400 all the old articles on Kay that were up in 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:18.320 the old library. And I was researching the preseason game 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:20.800 against Denver that here because I was going to do 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:24.320 something on Dan Reeves. And if you remember Reeves in 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:27.960 the preseason game against you guys, he was mad because 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:32.840 they fired Tom and Ellaway was playing into overtime in 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:35.960 that game to try to win, and he ended up 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:38.360 throwing the winning touchdown pass, right, So I was trying 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:40.840 to find it to see what was said afterwards because 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:44.360 he was he was taking revenge right. Well, before I 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:46.720 got to it, I found my story that I wrote 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:49.760 after training camp. It was a long piece on Jimmy 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:52.240 and what he was like and everything, and I had 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:55.960 just gotten to the quote from Everson Walls, by the way, 0:15:56.160 --> 0:16:00.400 and I started it off with saying, well, if anybody's 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:02.560 gonna speak out and say what he's got to say, 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:06.920 it's gonna be Everson Wall. And you said something to 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:11.200 the fact that, uh that you know each of them, 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:15.880 Tom and Jimmy had different ways of motivating players. Uh. 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:19.000 You said Tom would kind of give you the eye 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.160 and that would shake you up. And he said Jimmy 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:27.080 would grab your shoulder pads and shake you up. That's funny. 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:31.720 It was pretty good. Yeah. Speaking of Dan Reeves, of 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:35.520 course he passed away over over the weekend. Um, and 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:38.800 you growing up in Dallas, what do you what do 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:41.120 you remember growing up as a cowboy fan? As far 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:44.720 as Dan Reeves he is concerned. I remember the full 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:49.400 back pass. That's what I remember? Was that too, Lance 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:52.960 Lance Rensel and the Ice Bowl? Yeah, it was a halfback. 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:55.360 That's my half back. He was a half That's my 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:58.680 first new house was a fullback pass to me. They 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.280 were both say because both that were used the same way. 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:03.640 Both of them were talented and that's why Tom you 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:05.639 would use him in there. Both they went to the 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:09.119 left and that's exactly and they were throw with the 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:11.760 right hand. So yeah, you saw where That was my 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:14.639 first memory of Dan Reeves. So when they when they 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:18.480 talk about him passing on, uh, it's all it's never 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:21.840 really mentioned, not necessarily as a cowboy, right that was 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:24.480 talking about him as being a coach for the Giants 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.119 and the Falcon Dude, he's a Dallas cowboy and he 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:29.720 was a really good player, Yes he was. He was 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.280 one of the smartest players to play for Tom Landry. 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:35.320 That's why Tom loved him so much. Coach, he kind 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:39.199 of set that that tone for coaches or players that 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:42.960 you can rely on on the field. Uh, Springs was 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:46.359 those was that guy? New House was that guy? Know 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:49.560 you had you had players on the field that recognize 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:52.600 situations and they didn't have to refer all the time 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:55.560 to your coaches. He might have been on the players 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:58.359 that Tom love. He might have been there first. And 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:00.200 you guys can help me with him. I'm doing off 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:05.320 top my head. Undrafted free agent that was that successful 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:08.520 with him, because yes, it came out of South Carolina. 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:13.840 Now maybe Dallas Cowboys. Yes, yeah, that's what the Cowboys. 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:17.560 And I'm not sure when Cornell green Um came into 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:21.000 uh prominent, So I mean he was in that same 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:24.879 same time yea. But here's all you real Cowboys weren't 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:27.600 known for that. I mean right right up until and 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:30.760 he was a quarterback running back at South Carolina. The 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:33.720 Cowboys actually brought him in. Uh they were going to 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.360 make a defensive back out of him, and they had 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:39.960 moved mel Renfro to running back and let's just look 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:42.280 at that. Somebody got hurt and Mela had to go 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:45.320 to the cornerback, and so Reeves became a running back. 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:47.679 And see, that's that's that's what you had to admire 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:51.879 about the Cowboys a scouting staff, they were getting players 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:54.920 that were you know, they could juggle it out of 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:57.600 the balls. You know, these kids, these guys were good 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:00.160 at more than one thing, so they were they were 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:03.240 almost like not replaceable, but you could put them in 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:07.000 different holes to and they would field that hole just perfect. 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:09.520 He was one of my favorite players, but I didn't 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.240 until he passed away over the weekend. I didn't realize 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:15.200 how what kind of impact he made on Cowboys fans 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:18.480 in that era. Except when my sisters start tech on 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:22.919 our little group texts, they start texting, oh no, Dan Reeves, 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:26.000 and they were talking about how they just loved Dan Reeves. 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:30.480 And Reeves went to when my one of my older 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:33.639 sisters was in high school, he went to mac Arthur 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:37.720 and visited whatever, and she still has the picture with 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:40.919 Dan Reeves and some of her friends that were on 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:44.080 the drill team and stuff. But then I went and 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:47.840 started looking up Okay, okay, like you're saying, most people 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:52.560 think of Dan Reeves as being the coaching what they 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:56.120 done in the last four decades, you know, four decades 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:59.000 as a coach or whatever. So I went back and 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:02.560 looked at Okay, so why was he so popular a 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:04.920 player with the Cowboys? And I can answer you that, 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:08.240 what's that? Why? Yeah? Because he did so many different things? 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:12.280 Will he was versatile. But then you look at his stats. Okay, 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:16.040 in nineteen sixty five was his first year, thirteen game, 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:19.480 six starts, and he had three touchdowns. That year, his 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:25.280 second year, okay, playing a halfback, he had sixteen touchdowns 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:29.400 that season, and in his third year he had eleven touchdowns. 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:32.399 And so I did the math on it. The first 0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:36.000 thirty eight games of his career, he had thirty five touchdowns. 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:39.760 I mean he literally, he literally was on pace to 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:42.560 be one of the great running backs in Cowboys history. 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:46.000 And then four games into the nineteen sixty eight season, 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:48.080 he tore up his knee. And when you had a 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:51.240 knee injury in nineteen sixty eight, it was not the 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:54.960 same as a knee injury. And think about what they 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:59.720 had him playing halfback because Don Perkins was considered the 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:02.720 full back and that was the primary running position, was 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:06.560 the fullback. And then Garrison gets there. Garrison got here 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:09.639 in sixty six, I believe it was. And so you 0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:12.680 had these fullbacks that they were using quite a bit. 0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:16.560 And then before the salary cap, he was a player coach, 0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:20.280 so uh, and then he coached almost every position. There's 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:23.359 a classic picture of the coaching staff and it's got 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:27.280 you know, Ernie Stottner and Jim Myers and maybe Jean Style. 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:28.920 I can't remember who I was in the picture. And 0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:32.000 then so they got their coaching shorts on and everything, 0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:35.840 you know, and here's here's Dan Reeves with his football uniform, 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:39.200 and think and think about and the thing everybody remembers 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:41.879 about him when they tell stories is how competitive he was, 0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:45.560 even when they were just playing silly games or whatever. 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:49.080 He used to have some deal, some trick thing where 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:52.760 he can uh stand a corner a quarter on edge 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:55.359 on the side of the table and blow it along 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:58.200 the side of the table or some silliness like that 0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:02.040 that everybody would tell story is about. But but again, 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:04.760 the reason I was looking up that still was just 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:08.160 how competitively was in a preseason game, trying to show 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:11.439 the Cowboys all right, because there were stories when he 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:15.520 left to go to Denver in eighty one that they 0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:18.520 thought Tom was grooming him to be the next Cowboys 0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:21.880 head coach. Uh. And it's like, well, no, I'm not 0:22:22.240 --> 0:22:29.120 any longer. And so and so anyway, and and tell 0:22:29.160 --> 0:22:34.760 me if I told you so, stop me if I 0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:36.920 told the story here, because I've told you the couple 0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:40.280 times already. H When he was in the Super Bowl 0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:45.840 with Atlanta the Dirty Birds. Uh so Uh. It was 0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:50.040 ninety eight season. They were playing Denver by the way. Uh. 0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:53.959 And I was the pool reporter for the AFC practices, 0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:56.320 So I had to go to the practice or the 0:22:56.520 --> 0:22:59.960 for the NFC and write a sanitized report and then 0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:02.920 they passed it out to all the meeting. Stop what 0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:06.800 you said that you told this story? I did? Okay, 0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:11.240 it was it was I think it was me And 0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:20.240 ok yeah yeah, well you said R R. Bill wasn't listening, right, No, 0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:22.840 I remember the sanitized report. Yeah. So is there a 0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:27.120 point to that story? Yes, because I kind of screwed up, 0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:30.919 hurried up. Yeah. They had a they had a guard 0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:33.719 that they moved to fullback, and I said so and 0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:40.199 so took some snaps at fullback. And the guy that 0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:45.720 worked for the Atlanta paper made a big story about it. No, no, no, no, 0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:50.920 uh and uh Dan was hot. Yeah, he chewed out 0:23:50.960 --> 0:23:55.160 the beat writer right. And so when I found out 0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:57.040 what happened the next day, I went up to him. 0:23:57.040 --> 0:23:59.879 I said, hey, my bad, it was my fault. I 0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:02.399 should have checked with you. I just thought it was 0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:05.199 common knowledge to why everybody was talking about it, and 0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:08.840 he goes, well, he should have known better, right. So 0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:12.159 after the game they got beat by twenty points. 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