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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me.

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Speaker 2: We all about that high school drama. Girl, drama girl,

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Speaker 2: all about them.

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Speaker 3: High school queens. We'll take you for a ride. And

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Speaker 3: our comic girl cheered for the right teams.

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Speaker 2: Drama Queens girl fashion, but your tough girl, you could

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Speaker 2: sit with us.

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Speaker 1: Girl Drama, Queens Drama, Quise Drama, Queens Drama, Drama, Queens

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Speaker 1: Drama Queens.

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Speaker 4: Hey, you guys, remember when Liquid IV became a sponsor

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Speaker 4: of Drama Queens and Suntauts A whole bunch of Liquid IV. Thankfully,

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Speaker 4: I brought a bottle of it within down to record

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Speaker 4: because I need to hydrate after this episode. It was massive.

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Speaker 4: I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 3: I loved it too. This was wild. It was jam packed.

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Speaker 3: This is maybe the first time that we've done a

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Speaker 3: podcast where I'm concerned we might not have enough time

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this was packed. This episode was wild.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I loved it. I freing loved this episode.

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Speaker 4: And you know that's hard for me to say because

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Speaker 4: Valdemore wrote it and directed it, and so it is

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Speaker 4: worth noting that sometimes someone who's truly awful can make

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Speaker 4: fantastic things, and this episode is one of them. It's

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Speaker 4: a fucking bop man. I love it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I really did too, every second.

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Speaker 5: Every second, and I mean talk about starting on a

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Speaker 5: high note, opening on Jackson singing our theme song and

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Speaker 5: then realizing he's singing with Gavin de Gras.

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Speaker 3: I die. My heart exploded and fell onto the floor.

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Speaker 3: It was a great setup for how the whole episode

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Speaker 3: was was gonna go. There was something a little avant

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Speaker 3: garde about everything. The fact that that was a completely

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Speaker 3: out of time, out of space moment. Gavin and Jamie

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Speaker 3: are never going to meet. That's not a thing that's

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Speaker 3: ever gonna happen in the universe of One Tree Hill.

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Speaker 3: Gavin's not even like a character on our show. Yes,

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Speaker 3: betting it up with my setting it up with that

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Speaker 5: It was so sweet.

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Speaker 3: And then into Luke and the bar with the cut

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Speaker 3: cut cut cut, Yeah, and even Joe the Dog.

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Speaker 4: You know, we just celebrated our twentieth anniversary, and of

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Speaker 4: all of the retrospectives that were written about our show,

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Speaker 4: the one you know that was in like variety was

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Speaker 4: the craziest things that happened on One Tree Hill. Like

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Speaker 4: everybody else when their show hits a milestone, gets love letters,

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Speaker 4: and we get you know, the can you believe they

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Speaker 4: did this? And for me, we got made fun of

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Speaker 4: so much over the tenure of our show, whether it

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Speaker 4: other shows picking on us, we were always the one

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Speaker 4: we just started owning it. And I love this surrealist

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Speaker 4: scene where to your point, like like Jamie's never gonna

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Speaker 3: Clearly, Yeah, you guys are the best. This is It's

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Speaker 3: an amazing ride. I did not know that was Joe

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Speaker 4: That drunk montage was perfect. It was just very funny, perfect,

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Speaker 4: how fun for Chad. He was wonderful in this episode.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, you guys, we haven't even given people

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, we're keeping to do this. Okay, Sophia,

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Speaker 3: you've been out, so you read the synopsis. Okay, okay.

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Speaker 5: Episode five eighteen, What Comes After the Blues originally aired

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Speaker 5: May nineteenth, two thousand and eight. Angie is heading back

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Speaker 5: to her family, which obviously liaves Brooke devastated. Lucas deals

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Speaker 4: I mean, this whole episode could have been a whole

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Speaker 3: They just stretched it all out. Yeah. I was obsessed

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Speaker 4: And that was one of my favorite parts of this episode.

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Speaker 4: They were aggressive throws, were how.

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Speaker 3: Are you going to attack a bunch of girl scouts? Honestly,

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Speaker 5: I just thought the whole montage was so so good,

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Speaker 4: Scout dare Knight Challenge. You know, was that one or two?

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Speaker 4: So many little easter eggs, Let's see.

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Speaker 3: If we can find them all.

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Speaker 4: The fans are gonna know if we miss some, they're

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Speaker 5: Seeing things the whole way the montage went. I loved

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Speaker 5: Like even Debin Skills right, the soundtrack in this episode

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Speaker 4: I bet Sarah Paulson would do a really good job

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Speaker 4: who else can do this? Betch stuff? I just want

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was so up and down, and you're right,

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Speaker 3: Well, you have to when you're it's sodiculous. Why is

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Speaker 4: Would never you should trip him. Yeah, yeah, it's insanity.

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Speaker 4: I really like it. I mean they straight up handed

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Speaker 3: I really wanted him to open his eyes. I kept

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Speaker 4: If he could just open one eye just a little,

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Speaker 3: Like excuse me, hello?

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Speaker 4: Yeah. And then where's the reverend's real congregation and real family.

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Speaker 4: Can you imagine them coming in being like, ah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: He's a reverend of what the hell kind of a

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Speaker 5: Also, all I could think was that that the woman

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Speaker 5: I was like, guys, come on, nurses know everything that's

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Speaker 4: Well, we had Brooke and baby Angie set up for

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Speaker 5: I can see the discomfort on my face when I

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Speaker 5: She's taking a baby to the beach.

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Speaker 4: Here we go, who takes a baby that has like

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Speaker 3: The like pure.

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Speaker 5: Humor of them just being like we don't know what

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Speaker 3: Then we're gonna.

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Speaker 5: Realize that didn't go well and pretend we never said it.

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Speaker 5: Then then we're gonna make it very clear that she's

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Speaker 5: Back in the ring, Like like j W come early

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Speaker 5: Is it?

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Speaker 4: I went what what?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, every time they try to involve no, nobody likes it,

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Speaker 3: We're in, We're out, We're in, We're out. It's I

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Speaker 4: Let's just go guys, we all made those packs. We

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Speaker 3: What a testament to the things that we think are

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Speaker 5: And the reality is there are all sorts of things

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Speaker 3: You just don't know.

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Speaker 4: It's like I've Brooke and Lucas are totally the people

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Speaker 3: Should we try again?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you had tons of drama in this episode.

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Speaker 5: gonna say call me and and he was like, be

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00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 5: proud of what you did for this baby.

442
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 4: I was like, what the.

443
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 3: What's probably gonna get me? Give me your number?

444
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 4: We are boo hissed that one. We're like, Chris, Chris Ethan.

445
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 3: Come on, this is the moment where you ask her out?

446
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I really, I'm so confused as to why

447
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 3: he didn't come back because that was his last episode.

448
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 3: I just don't get it. Do you remember anything about this? Well,

449
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 3: I'm unsure, but I do know.

450
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 5: The in the times where we spill the tea. I

451
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 5: do know that this was really getting us into the

452
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 5: era where Voldemort really didn't like there being guys around

453
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 5: because there were, you know, girls on our show who

454
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 5: were single who he was trying to make moves on,

455
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 5: and he didn't want them to have options.

456
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 4: So, oh my god, yeah, slim pickens because guess what,

457
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 4: I was single by this episode. By this episode, my

458
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 4: hair's different, my makeups different, because for the first time

459
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 4: in the entire history of One Tree Hill, Hillary Burton

460
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 4: was single and I was ready to mingle and.

461
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 3: You looked beautiful, you were glowing your hair.

462
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 4: And I looked around and I was like, wow, the

463
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 4: playing field seems slimmer.

464
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 3: Sickens, babe. Yeah, but then why even hire him? In

465
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 3: the first place, Like, why bring him in just to

466
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 3: tease us and then give us no follow through?

467
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 4: Well maybe he thought we would hate him and we didn't.

468
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 3: Everybody liked him, and he went, oh, he's got to go. Well,

469
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 3: I'm sorry that that happened, because I really wish Brooke

470
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 3: had been able to have that story.

471
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 5: Brooks should have dated a hot doctor. Honestly, it would

472
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 5: have been nice for her.

473
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely an adult that like gave her good advice,

474
00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 4: like when when the silence sets in the You've done

475
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 4: a lovely thing, Broke, So.

476
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 3: If they relied on you a lot for a lot

477
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 3: of the comedy, just in the show in general, I think, Broke,

478
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 3: bron you know so much levity. Did you enjoy doing

479
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 3: this like Arc where it was pretty much all drama

480
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: all the time, or did it feel like was it

481
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 3: exhausting and you missed you? I think in giggily, I

482
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 3: mean I do.

483
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 5: I love doing the sort of comedic relief as Brooke.

484
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 5: I always really enjoyed that. That was how you know

485
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 5: she was pitched to me. I think what I enjoyed

486
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 5: about this was her having a storyline that didn't revolve

487
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 5: around a man. Just felt nice, you know, It was

488
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 5: hard on some days, as it always is working with

489
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 5: the baby, and then at other times it was sort

490
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 5: of great. It was like, you know, we were so

491
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 5: used to doing like sixteen seventeen hour days, and you

492
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 5: can't work hours like that with a baby, so like

493
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 5: I had some free time for the first time in

494
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 5: five years.

495
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 3: I was like, well, I have to go home when

496
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 3: the baby goes home bye. Like I kind of loved

497
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 3: that practically, but.

498
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, I didn't mind it. What really

499
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 5: makes me feel cringey. And I remember it was like

500
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 5: how hard they wanted me to push being broken when

501
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 5: I have to give the baby back, and like they

502
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 5: wanted me sobbing in that airport, and I was like,

503
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 5: this feels really over the top. Like, guys, I get

504
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,959
Speaker 5: that she's attached, but I've had this baby for what

505
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 5: like three weeks or something.

506
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 4: Like they wanted you to go full nanny carey.

507
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that was the thing.

508
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 5: I was like, this feels like we're getting into like

509
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 5: nanny carey territory, like single white female car like territory.

510
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 4: Like the hand that rocks the cradle.

511
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, or if you've had a kid that you're fostering

512
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 3: and it's been like a year, you know, yes, of

513
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 3: that worse, yes, but three, Like, I don't know.

514
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 5: It just felt so extreme, and so I remember like

515
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 5: as soon as I saw it happening, and I'm.

516
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,959
Speaker 3: Supposed to like boo, just boo.

517
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 5: And sob and then turn around and see Lucas like

518
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 5: I was like.

519
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 3: God, I hated it then and I hate watching it

520
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 3: now because I just I don't know. I didn't I

521
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 3: didn't feel like it was right.

522
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 4: Oh, I didn't mind it. I liked it. I mean,

523
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 4: I thought you did a really sincere job of being upset.

524
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,479
Speaker 4: Kind of in the same way like remember when we

525
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 4: were kids and we would leave summer camp and that

526
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 4: last day of camp, we'd cry so hard because we're like,

527
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 4: we're never gonna see these people again. So it wasn't

528
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 4: like the world was ending, but it was just like

529
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 4: I loved this bubble. This bubble was so nice. Brooke

530
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 4: just got to be in a baby bubble. Yeah.

531
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,479
Speaker 3: It worked for me because it felt to me like

532
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 3: it wasn't so much about specifically Angie, as Brooke had

533
00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 3: found something to pour herself into that was not her work.

534
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 3: It wasn't her ability to accomplish something nobody was relying

535
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 3: on her for her brains or business acumen or creativity.

536
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: It was like just her presence, her actual physical presence

537
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 3: was so meaningful. And to have the one thing that

538
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 3: to have that taken away, the thing that's giving you,

539
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 3: it's like telling you you're valuable just because you exist

540
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 3: in your presence is here, and when that goes away, Yeah,

541
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 3: that's like, well great, what do I do now? What

542
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 3: am I supposed to go back to? I have to

543
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 3: now keep performing all these things in order just to

544
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 3: be loved and have value. So it hit me because

545
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 3: it didn't seem like it was melodorm I'm so glad.

546
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, isn't it funny though, Like it's so helpful

547
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 5: to be able to hear how people experience something that

548
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 5: they're watching, because yeah, I have a sense memory of

549
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 5: like being directed in a way by someone who obviously

550
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 5: I didn't like, in a way that felt over the top,

551
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 5: and I was like, well, I don't know about this,

552
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,239
Speaker 5: and I don't know about this.

553
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 3: It feels iggy, and you're like, no, it totally works.

554
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, great, it works. I don't think it

555
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 3: worked because of the reason he was directing you right, right, right.

556
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 3: I think what was happening was exactly what you thought

557
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 3: was happening, But I just I think it came across

558
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 3: as better than planned.

559
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 5: Lad.

560
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: Yes, Glas, that was good stuff. And I did like

561
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 3: seeing Lucas show up at the airport and being there

562
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 3: for her. I did too, So interesting And you know

563
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 3: what I thought.

564
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 5: Was really interesting. It hit me in that scene, you know,

565
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 5: Lucas being there for Brooke in this way, and when

566
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 5: they get back to her house, I was confused about,

567
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 5: like why he picked her up at the airport but

568
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 5: then disappeared but then came back. But whatever, it worked

569
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 5: in the order that it needed to. But the fact

570
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 5: that he he talks to her about her vulnerability and

571
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 5: why it's special really echoed for me what Haley was

572
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 5: doing for Lucas in this episode. Because you say him

573
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 5: and you say, stop hiding your heart.

574
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 3: It's my next quote on the list, stop hiding your heart,

575
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 3: saying I circled it, and you.

576
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 5: Say be you know, you're telling him to be honest

577
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,959
Speaker 5: about his feelings, to stop making a mess. And I

578
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 5: really like that in a way, he takes the advice

579
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 5: that you give to him and then he offers it

580
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 5: to Brook and tells her that her vulnerability is something

581
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 5: that he's grateful to witness, and he thanks her for

582
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 5: letting him be a part of it. I was like, oh, wow,

583
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 5: everyone really is showing up for their friends well in

584
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 5: this episode.

585
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 4: I mean I thought it was a little wordy, but

586
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 4: he's telling her. Yeah, I thought, hold on, I wrote

587
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 4: this down. You know that I did.

588
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 3: Maybe it was because they were trying to do that

589
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 3: on purpose, because they knew what the ending they were

590
00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 3: going to tell. Yeah the audience.

591
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, they were teasing. They were definitely

592
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 4: like teasing a cliffhanger. But I when he's like Brook,

593
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 4: that's the only way I see you, and it's why

594
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 4: you're so beautiful, it was like, oh, oh, tell me more.

595
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 4: I didn't hate it. If he ends up calling Brooke,

596
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 4: I'm not mad at it. I think that there's a

597
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 4: real basis for a partnership there. Maybe not so much

598
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 4: like romance, but partnership, which is probably a bigger factor

599
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 4: in a long term relationship, Like can we can we

600
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 4: pick each other up? Can we make each other safe?

601
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 4: And Luke, for whatever reason, wants to make Brook feel

602
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 4: very safe. Yeah, if I can jump in and say

603
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 4: though that I hillary Burton, the actor was feeling some

604
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 4: very real like jealousy that Luke was getting to comfort

605
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 4: Brook and Peyton was like Peyton a fucking mural somewhere.

606
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 4: I was just like, what, whoa where is Peyton? Because

607
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 4: that's her?

608
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, where is she called Luke? Why do you think

609
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 3: she called Luke?

610
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 4: She no, she probably called both of them.

611
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 3: But I was just like, well, because Luke and Brooke

612
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 3: were both saying goodbye to the girl that they love,

613
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: and I know.

614
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 4: That's a good one.

615
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 3: That's what was happening, So it was good that they

616
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 3: were together. But she didn't call Peyton.

617
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 5: Well, I will say that, thank god. Though they actually

618
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 5: addressed it, even though it was quick, because he says,

619
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 5: where's Peyton? And then I have to admit that I

620
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 5: didn't tell you that Angie was actually leaving today, and

621
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 5: so that's why he calls me on like hiding this

622
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 5: stuff from people.

623
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 4: That's all he's doing this episode is be like this

624
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 4: Peyton here, because he does, right, where is she? I'm

625
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 4: trying to duck her? She's being aware.

626
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 3: Though painting that mural though, Okay, what did it actually say?

627
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 3: Do you know what the quote is? Because I kept

628
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 3: trying to read it and I couldn't catch it.

629
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 5: It's the end of Lucas's book. It's the whole thing

630
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 5: about how like love remade.

631
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 4: Him and made me like young again, made me whole again.

632
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 4: And it's a picture of the comets.

633
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 3: Oh man, I've really missed that.

634
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 5: And he says what it looks like at least is

635
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 5: that in his writing of that final paragraph, he says

636
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 5: I will always love you, like in it at some point,

637
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 5: because you can see that kind of at the bottom

638
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 5: of the comet. And then she does the like return

639
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 5: return on the computer screen thing and says, I will

640
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 5: always love you Peyton. So yeah, she like gave him

641
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 5: his book back.

642
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 3: Really made me miss the river court me to a

643
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 3: shot of Chad's standing in the middle of the quote.

644
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 5: Yes, I mean the big aerial shot.

645
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 3: There's so many epic artistic shots and moments in this episode,

646
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 3: even Mouth and Millie leaning up against the wall of

647
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 3: the news station. The way the camera moved past it

648
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 3: just felt like really elevated, interesting to look at.

649
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 4: Our camera department showed up so many crane shots in

650
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 4: this episode. Oh yeah, from the very beginning, that shot

651
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 4: of main Street where it like comes down onto the street. Yeah,

652
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 4: the river court shots, the shots in the airport. We

653
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 4: worked that crane this.

654
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 3: Episode, and the and the end with the car accident.

655
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 4: H we'll get there.

656
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, well and think about it too. You know, it's

657
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 5: it's five eighteen, but it's the season finale because the

658
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 5: season was truncated because of the strike, so there was

659
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 5: budget left over. Like, we had a full eight days

660
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 5: of a techno crane on this episode, and that's not

661
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 5: something we normally had.

662
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 3: Oh, that's right.

663
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 5: To have a crane every day. Yeah, Like that's why

664
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 5: all these shots are so amazing.

665
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 3: So you could take an episode that normally for us

666
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 3: would just be in town, you go to all your

667
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 3: regular locations, and you could turn it into something that

668
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 3: was so much more. You could take more time with

669
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 3: the shots. Yeah, it makes it look more like a movie.

670
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 4: I want to crane on everything, me too. Joy. I

671
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 4: sidebarred before we got to the talk with Haley and

672
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 4: Lucas on the roof because I really loved that scene.

673
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 4: I thought you and he had You and him had

674
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 4: so much this episode that was funny, like you telling

675
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 4: him to fix the ferret on his head. I love

676
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 4: the gold Stars cold, but then you guys have this

677
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 4: moment where you're reminiscing about the water balloon fight you

678
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 4: had on top of Karen's cafe, and you say to

679
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 4: him that we're not kids anymore. And this is my

680
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 4: favorite part of One Tree Hill is how southern it is.

681
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 4: Where our characters are twenty two years old. They are

682
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 4: stressed about being married and having kids, like there is

683
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 4: no Tom left. That is the most southern thing about

684
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 4: our show. And Hayley's just like Clockstick and Luke, we're

685
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 4: not kids anymore.

686
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 3: We're gonna die soon. Luke, You're better get your together.

687
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 4: Pull it together.

688
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 3: I love that.

689
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 5: It's like our brains won't be done developing for four

690
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 5: more years, but we are old and we should be responsible.

691
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, it's so good.

692
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 4: I love it. Yeah, stop hiding your heart.

693
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 3: Stop hiding your heart. It's so nice. Good one too.

694
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 3: All of the garbage and pain is just garbage and pain,

695
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 3: and love is better and don't underestimate love. And I

696
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 3: remember reading that and really feeling connected to that. Yeah,

697
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 3: a really real moment there. I also like I like.

698
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 5: Her saying that to a writer in particular. You know,

699
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 5: garbage and pain isn't poetic, because there really is this

700
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 5: notion for artists, you know, like the tortured artist. I

701
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 5: remember years ago a friend of mine that I was

702
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 5: working with to get sober and he was really struggling.

703
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 5: He was convinced that if he did, he wouldn't be

704
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 5: as good an actor. And yeah, like that's this lie

705
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 5: that you know that that somehow your mess is what

706
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 5: makes you interesting. And it was really special for me

707
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 5: as a friend to be able to like witness the

708
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 5: unpacking of that. And I love that Haley kind of

709
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 5: calls Lucas on it and is like enough, like, no

710
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 5: more of this tortured artist nonsense, show up for what's

711
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 5: good in your life.

712
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, love is better. Love is interesting. Yeah, m.

713
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 5: Well, and it's and it's not some myth that keeps

714
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 5: you sick or keeps you small.

715
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: I loved it.

716
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 4: I think Haley talks the talk in this episode but

717
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 4: also really walks the walk, like there's that There are

718
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 4: multiple moments in this episodisode where you see her just

719
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 4: taking in her own life, taking in her family, taking

720
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 4: in being in the recording studio, and she just clicking.

721
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 4: And it's one thing when the person giving you advice

722
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 4: is just like saying all the right things, but it's

723
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 4: another thing when you're witnessing them live it and call

724
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 4: it into action. And so seeing Haley, who has been

725
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 4: through some hellacious I don't know it just that felt

726
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 4: so real. You know, it feels nice to appreciate goodness

727
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 4: in the moment, because I think a lot of people

728
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 4: fall into I know I certainly have fallen into the

729
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 4: habit of recognizing it after the fact and be like, oh,

730
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 4: that was lovely. That's my experience in this podcast, Like

731
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 4: the filming of it didn't feel good. I would wake

732
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 4: up every day with like a pit in my stomach.

733
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 4: And it's so nice to go back and look at

734
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 4: it and be like, there are parts of that that

735
00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 4: were awesome.

736
00:38:59,000 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 3: That was nice.

737
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 4: It was nice, And so to see Haley appreciate it

738
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 4: in the moment, that's such an important life skill that

739
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 4: now I get to practice. Yeah, Haley and.

740
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: Nathan seemed to be doing a lot of that in

741
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: this episode, like they're really I was just gonna say, yeah,

742
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 3: like walking through the compilation of the things that they've

743
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 3: been through in their life and just being able to

744
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 3: use those as ways to help other people or like

745
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 3: learn watching Nathan Learn. I have a whole thing about

746
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 3: Nate Learning here. Yeah, but I just real quick, I'm

747
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 3: I'm still chewing on what you did. The last thing

748
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 3: you said, Sophia, you said, it's not a myth that

749
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: keeps you small? Could you just elaborate on that, because

750
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 3: I didn't understand what you meant, but it was interesting.

751
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, So, like the mythology of the tortured artist, the

752
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 5: mythology of pain being good for you. You know this idea.

753
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 5: I've seen a lot of people sharing this quote from

754
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 5: a therapist recently that was like, I don't like what

755
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 5: doesn't kill you makes you stronger. I disagree, Like trauma

756
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 5: that you've survived hasn't made you strong. You're strong because

757
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 5: you survived it. You didn't deserve to go through the trauma,

758
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 5: and you shouldn't be required to go through trauma to grow.

759
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 3: You know.

760
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 5: It's so these ideas for me, I'm really fascinated by

761
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 5: these myths that we need to stop believing in, like

762
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 5: that being tortured makes you a better artist or whatever.

763
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 5: And I love that Haley is essentially saying to Lucas,

764
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,919
Speaker 5: like the myth the garbage and pain being poetic, that's

765
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 5: a myth. Love is better. Yeah, like love, garbage and

766
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 5: pain actually just keep you small. They keep you afraid,

767
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 5: they keep you hurting. And if you can, if you

768
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 5: can do the work to unpack your stuff, you know,

769
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 5: whatever your stuff is, and like take your own trash out,

770
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 5: I think you can get out of whatever cycle you've

771
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 5: been in that keeps you small or makes you small.

772
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 5: You can you can choose like the bigger and the

773
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 5: better life. I mean, I like when you were talking

774
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 5: about it earlier, Joy, like every couple of decades or

775
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 5: maybe every couple of years, you got to reassess, Like,

776
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 5: that's certainly a journey that I'm on in the moment.

777
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 5: And it's like, you know, not something I particularly want

778
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 5: to talk about in detail, But the theme of this

779
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 5: season for me truly is like, oh no, no, I

780
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 5: will not stay in any circumstance that makes me small. Yeah,

781
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 5: and I just won't.

782
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 3: How do you balance that with like because and I

783
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 3: remember thinking this actually when Haley was saying this quote too,

784
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 3: because yes, I went with it the direction that you're

785
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 3: talking about with the artists believing these myths about being tortured,

786
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 3: and that made really interesting. But I think that like

787
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 3: don't we have to. We have to go through hard

788
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 3: things in order to grow, Like, how can you grow

789
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 3: if you if you're never encounter something that challenges your

790
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 3: character or to figure out a lot of times we

791
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 3: don't even know what we're capable over who we are

792
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 3: until we're faced with it, Like what are you going

793
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 3: to do in this moment? And you have to make

794
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 3: a decision and the decision is determinate, determining factor into

795
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 3: the development of your character.

796
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 5: Yes, and I think challenge is so important. But I

797
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 5: think that the danger is when we romanticize our suffering

798
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 5: and say it's what made us good.

799
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, no, for sure, but like acknowledging, because

800
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: we've all been through so much in our lives, and

801
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 3: like acknowledging. Man, when I think about the things that

802
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 3: I've been through, I don't wish that on anyone. I

803
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 3: don't wish that I went through it. But I also

804
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 3: I'm grateful for it because of the things that I've

805
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 3: learned and how how it's how it's changed me and

806
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 3: my being able to grow past those things.

807
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 4: You would have been a good person without them, Yeah,

808
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 4: you would have been a good person without them. I

809
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 4: don't know it shoots and Ladders man's true. I think.

810
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 4: I think the shoots and ladders aspect where the notion

811
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 4: is that you have to backslide five spaces in order

812
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 4: to move forward and be in like your real position

813
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 4: in life for a better position, yeah, or a better position,

814
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 4: you know. In parenting, there's a lot of like, well,

815
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 4: it toughened me up, so I'm going to toughen my

816
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 4: kids up the same way so that they come up

817
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 4: with the same morals that I do. I am very

818
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 4: very lenient and very very loving with my children because

819
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 4: they don't have to deal with the same shit that

820
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 4: I did, and they make better decisions than I did.

821
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 4: They make decisions that come from a place of love

822
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 4: instead of a place of fear and defensiveness. And so

823
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 4: the idea that you must go through trauma to come

824
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 4: out as a good person is a part of the

825
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 4: hero's journey. It's a part of a tale that's as

826
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 4: old as Ulysses right, and it's bullshit, it's misogyny. It's

827
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 4: a man's story that going to war is the thing

828
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 4: that makes you a full person. You can sit in

829
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 4: a beautiful space surrounded by flowers and be domistic and

830
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 4: believe in the beauty of the world and still come

831
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 4: out a perfectly nice person, a perfectly kind hearted person.

832
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 4: And I love that Haley wants Lucas to come into

833
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 4: the light, you know, like to choose you more joy. God,

834
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 4: that's it. It's like you can still be a full

835
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 4: bodied person that is worthy of things and still has

836
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 4: a big imagination without having to wallow in, you know,

837
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 4: the underworld.

838
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think I think what's important is, look,

839
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 5: when you've been through hardship, when you have suffered, when

840
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 5: you have experienced things as we all have, that you

841
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 5: wouldn't wish on anyone else. Yes, you need to. You

842
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 5: need to make something of it, you know. It's why

843
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 5: the phrase exists. You got to make you know, you

844
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 5: have lemons, make lemonade.

845
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

846
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, you have to figure out how to make something

847
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 5: of it and find a gratitude for it and understand

848
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 5: as part of your story, because otherwise it might kill you.

849
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 5: But I would just prefer that people not have to suffer,

850
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 5: you know, like I don't. I don't buy into this

851
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 5: mythology that it's our suffering that makes us interesting. I

852
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 5: think it's unfortunate that we live in a world that

853
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 5: is so desensitized to human suffering. And I think, you know,

854
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 5: for me, like my entire life's mission is to create

855
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 5: more community so that people show up and defend their neighbors,

856
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 5: and that we show up and we build a more

857
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 5: equitable society. Like I'm not interested in everyone should suffer

858
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 5: because it makes you interesting.

859
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 3: Like I don't think so interesting now, you know, but

860
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 3: I do.

861
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 5: I do think in the realm of being human, when

862
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 5: you've been through something, you have to figure out what

863
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 5: it might stand to teach you so that you can exist.

864
00:45:55,520 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 5: And it's really it's really special in this episode to

865
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:05,479
Speaker 5: have Haley and Nathan on these parallel journeys and they're

866
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 5: talking about it as a couple, but they're also using

867
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 5: what they've been through to go and encourage their people

868
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 5: to grow. And what I love so much is that

869
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 5: Haley's doing so much of it with Lucas and Peyton,

870
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 5: and that Nathan is doing it with Jamie and doesn't

871
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 5: realize he needs someone to do it.

872
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 3: For him, which Quentin is kind of doing. Yeah this space.

873
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 5: And Quentin's pushing him, He's pushing him, He's pushing him,

874
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 5: and Nathan doesn't react well to it, and it's not

875
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 5: until his own son basically says without saying, Daddy, you

876
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 5: and I are going through the same thing. We're both

877
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 5: scared that he goes, oh, I'm telling my son not

878
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 5: to be scared, and I'm scared and I'm actually the

879
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 5: one denying it and he's watching, so maybe he's learning

880
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 5: to be scared for me, and like, oh, it just

881
00:46:58,760 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 5: it killed me.

882
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 3: That whole thing. Trifecta is like three Jamie, Nathan, and

883
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 3: Quenton all in the sittle circle of learning right now

884
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 3: what they're being to each other and how they're sort

885
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 3: of i mean passing the proverbial ball to each other

886
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 3: of maturity and innocence and growth and fear, and it's

887
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 3: it's so interesting to me.

888
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 4: Jackson is right like the same size, the same kind

889
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 4: of like maturity as my daughter right now. And there's

890
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 4: so many faces that he makes where I'm like, oh shit,

891
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 4: I saw that face yesterday, you know. And there's something

892
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 4: about like the kids are always copying us, right, Like

893
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 4: your child is just always copying you. So if your

894
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 4: kid's doing something you don't like, it's because you do it.

895
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 4: And we've talked about that in adults joy, but you know,

896
00:47:58,200 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 4: I have a girlfriend that's like, I don't know why

897
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 4: might doesn't get along with other girls, And I'm like,

898
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 4: but have you met you? You know, if your kids

899
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 4: struggling with something, it's because they've watched you struggle with

900
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 4: it and they're emulating it. And I love that a

901
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 4: kid can be going through something that's a microcosm of

902
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 4: the adult problems. But because they're not paying taxes and

903
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 4: they don't have work on top of it, and they

904
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 4: don't have like all these external factors, it makes the

905
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 4: issue super boiled down and really easy to diagnose, so

906
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 4: that it then opens up all these doors for the

907
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 4: grown ups, like, oh, all I have to do is

908
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 4: put my floaties on.

909
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 3: Okay, great, You're like Rocky Balboa.

910
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 4: When Nathan yelled I'm not afraid or I'm not scared,

911
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 4: I'm not scared whatever, so good, and it's such a

912
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 4: little boy temper tantrum.

913
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but that kind of goes back to what

914
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,280
Speaker 3: you were just saying, too so about kid because for

915
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 3: Jamie and what Hillary, what you're saying about keeping everything

916
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 3: boiled down, what they you know, kids don't understand their

917
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 3: version of their things, but that's that's their version of

918
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 3: suffering like a kid being you know, having to deal

919
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 3: with whatever it is that the fear is, or even

920
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 3: a parent putting a restriction on a child and saying, no,

921
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 3: you cannot just run out into the street, and the

922
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 3: kids like, but I really want to, and then they'll

923
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 3: throw a fit. But it's for their safety, but they

924
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 3: just can't understand that, So they're suffering is relative, you

925
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 3: know to a child they really feel like they're suffering

926
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 3: because they can't go get the candy out of the

927
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 3: jar before dinner, or because they're being grounded because they

928
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 3: haven't learned how to structure to be responsible in certain

929
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 3: ways or whatever. Do you know what I'm saying? Like

930
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 3: the suffering is kind of relative, and we think like, oh,

931
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 3: I'm suffering, I shouldn't have to suffer, And yet our

932
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 3: version of suffering may be also relative compared to another someone.

933
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 4: No, but Nathan's suffering that he's frustrated and he's a

934
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 4: little bit embarrassed that it's not coming back to him,

935
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 4: and he's go this high school kid who is pushing

936
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 4: him and making him look like a dips in front

937
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 4: of his own son. Like Holy, that is suffering to

938
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 4: Nathan Scott, right.

939
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 3: Yea, and Quinton's dealing with his own version of what's

940
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 3: going on in his world and just trying to still

941
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 3: stay alive and stay passionate about the game that he

942
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 3: loves and stay relevant in the game that he loves.

943
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, Haley's suffering in this episode is waking up with

944
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 4: a rabbit in her bed because you know, those old

945
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 4: shits poop everywhere.

946
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 3: That was the look on my face, like, oh, okay,

947
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 3: I'm going to have to clean this up, right, But

948
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 3: I did love that. I love them all. Jumping in

949
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 3: the pool. I remember really loving doing that scene. It

950
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 3: was one of those this episode. Every day of this

951
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 3: episode felt like one of those days at work where

952
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 3: I was going through lots of my own personal suffering

953
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 3: and it was an escape to be able to come

954
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 3: to work and just have fun and play with family

955
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 3: that was like all really nice people and everybody was

956
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 3: treating each other well and we were just having a ball.

957
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 3: I loved shooting this episode, and I remember jumping in

958
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 3: that pool and just being like, play, I just get

959
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 3: to play and be a kid, which I felt like

960
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 3: I wasn't able to do in my real life at

961
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 3: that time. It was fun. It was really fun. Doing

962
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 3: this stuff.

963
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:15,919
Speaker 4: It did feel like there was like a fun thing.

964
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 4: Every day you were either jumping in the pool or

965
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 4: throwing water balloons, are getting to do a night shoot

966
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 4: at the river Court, which was always real special, you know,

967
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 4: taken over the airport. Yeah, I know. Every night was

968
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 4: a different slumber party.

969
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 3: The last thing we really haven't hit here unless there's

970
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 3: something else you guys wanted to say. Was it was

971
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 3: Mouth and Millie. Oh yeah, and Lindsay saving the day

972
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 3: at the station. Oh yeah, Lindsay, right of course.

973
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 4: Well, the Mouth and Millie of it all.

974
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 5: I loved it, that huge mic trup, just him being

975
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 5: able to get in there and do what he's really

976
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 5: good at, calling all those cues through the mic, and

977
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 5: it was just so funny and just loved that they

978
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 5: made the sportscaster end on and and I'm say your name.

979
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, it's perfect. It's just

980
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 3: a really moment.

981
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 5: For Mouth and like, you know, the music is swelling

982
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 5: and we're all like, yeah, he did it, and then

983
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 5: you get that moment of hilarious comic relief. It was perfect.

984
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 3: And you knew they were going to offer him his job.

985
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 3: They were like they were going to let him jump

986
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 3: in and the fact that he says I quit and

987
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 3: he gets that great epic exit from that news station

988
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 3: that just treated him so badly. Yeah, oh that felt good.

989
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 4: All of that was over that bonnie Vere song. And I,

990
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 4: I mean, Jeff and I danced to Bonniever at our wedding.

991
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 4: That was the first thing that he gave me when

992
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 4: we started dating is that album. And I was like, okay, cool,

993
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 4: you like, you're like moody, You're in. And it was

994
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 4: so epic and so swelling because we go from like

995
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 4: everybody's pieces are coming together, you know, Haley has that

996
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 4: really touching moment with Lucas. Lucas goes and he talks

997
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 4: to Brook. Lindsey leaves like it makes this crazy phone call,

998
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 4: and then when mouth.

999
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 3: Just absolutely kills it.

1000
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 4: It just feels like our kids are all finding their stride,

1001
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 4: you know. It feels like they're all slowly tiptoeing back

1002
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 4: onto the path, and it feels nice. It feels like

1003
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 4: redemptive for this end of the season, bit only only

1004
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 4: to have the most epic exclamation point in the history

1005
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 4: of our show.

1006
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 5: I am not okay, you guys, We've Regina George Dan Scott.

1007
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 3: That was wild.

1008
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 4: Everything is going so good for everyone.

1009
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 3: Even Dan. He's making he's making strides on. He's trying.

1010
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 3: He didn't have to murder that man, but that man died.

1011
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 3: Like now he's number one. He's so happy, trying to

1012
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 3: give give something back to the gods.

1013
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 4: What's your name and number? I'm Dan Scott and I'm

1014
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 4: number one one. Yeah you are baby?

1015
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 3: Yea.

1016
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 4: Guys, it hit him so that car hit him so hard.

1017
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 4: We have to post the reaction video of us because

1018
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 4: we fell out out. We were done.

1019
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 3: I was not prepared. I was I just wasn't prepared.

1020
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 3: I felt like it was going to happen. You know,

1021
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 3: anytime somebody backs up into a street, you kind of

1022
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 3: get a feeling something's gonna happen. Holy, that was really intense.

1023
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't remember they hit the dummy, right

1024
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 3: the dummy was what they actually hit or was it

1025
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 3: like a No, it looked like they hit a person.

1026
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 4: How did they do that? Our crew kicked so much

1027
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 4: ass on this episode. They were like, oh, you want

1028
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 4: us to do a stunt? Too cool?

1029
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 3: Watch this. We should have one of the stunt guys

1030
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 3: or a couple of them come talk with John Cople

1031
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 3: walk through some of the stuff. Ye, yes, yeah, we

1032
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 3: should have John com talk through some of the stunts

1033
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:15,439
Speaker 3: with us.

1034
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 4: Sometime because John doubled for Paul stuff because they both

1035
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 4: had dark hair.

1036
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 3: And for James as well. Yeah, but this one, yeah,

1037
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 3: when they hit the uh, they hit the street, Paul

1038
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 3: hit the street, and it was for sure a dummy

1039
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 3: like falling, like rolling off of the car. And you

1040
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 3: could see the bad diet job on the mannequin.

1041
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 4: Like the arm was all like.

1042
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 3: Direction.

1043
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 4: There's no joints or bones of that arm, No stuffed panty.

1044
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 5: No, of course you get the like you get the

1045
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 5: dummy falling. And then they cut and you know, they

1046
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 5: put Paul in for the last little like shake and

1047
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 5: then the freakin' beeper starts going off.

1048
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:59,479
Speaker 3: It's like, come on, come on, it's perfect. He's gonna

1049
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 3: get a new heart and a new arm and a leg.

1050
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 4: And is it bad that that beeper just reminds me

1051
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 4: of like outback steakhouse, Like remember the sound of it,

1052
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 4: the table's ready. Sometimes you just need a bloomin onion.

1053
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 4: I get it. I just I loved it because you've

1054
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 4: got all this like feel good sentimental going on with

1055
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,919
Speaker 4: the kids, and they're like, what's the most feel good

1056
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 4: thing we can do with Dan Scott? And we're gonna

1057
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 4: hit him with an accurate Chevy Malibu. Oh yeah, nail god.

1058
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 4: I loved it all right, Cliffhanger, Who's Luca's gonna pick?

1059
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:44,439
Speaker 4: Lindsay making the phone call? Here's my analysis. Lindsay called

1060
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 4: him when she knew that he had a game. She

1061
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 4: is admitting that she lied to him that she was

1062
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,720
Speaker 4: seeing someone. She is admitting that she does have feelings

1063
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 4: for him and has just put him in this purgatory

1064
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 4: for no good reason. And so I think that he

1065
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 4: definitely should not pick her because she's been kind of toxic.

1066
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 3: It's my take.

1067
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, don't have anything to do with how how you

1068
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 5: might feel for Peyton Sawyer.

1069
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 4: All I'm saying is Peyton has made it very clear,

1070
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 4: very clear, of the three girls, she's the only one

1071
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 4: who actually wants him.

1072
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, she chooses him. Yeah that's true.

1073
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's it's Haley's whole thing. Path of least resistance.

1074
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 4: Go to the light, go towards love, make it easy,

1075
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 4: go to the love, go with the love.

1076
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what's your honorable mention?

1077
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 5: So honestly, I think my honorable mention is Lisa Goldstein

1078
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 5: walking through these hauling water balloons.

1079
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 3: So no one's ever looked cooler. What a great moment, right,

1080
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 3: that is such a great nineties rom com moment. I

1081
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 3: loved every minute. Yeah, yeah that was great.

1082
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 4: What's yours?

1083
00:57:55,160 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 3: What's yours? I'm running? I mean, like the car hit,

1084
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 3: like the way that she was hit in that car.

1085
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 3: I just feel like, I feel like Paul committed so

1086
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 3: hard to this episode. Again he always They just knew

1087
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 3: they could give him the craziest material and he would

1088
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 3: come through. Yeah, so yeah, that's gonna be.

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Speaker 4: It for me. Loved it all right.

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Speaker 3: Fan question, Yeah, Ashley wants to know what is your

1091
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 3: pit and peak of season five? Pit and peak? Pits,

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00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 3: Nanny Carey, the pits, I mean for the character anyway, peak,

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00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 3: I guess right now, Like the last episode, Haley seems

1094
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 3: to be in a good place. She seems to be

1095
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 3: like getting over her anger with Dan. She seems to

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00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 3: be ready to help all her friends. She's doing her

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00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 3: music again. Yeah, it seems like she's on the upswing.

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00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a great song this sub I loved

1099
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 4: that song. I loved it when you would sing it.

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00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 3: It's a good song.

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00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, the beginning of it is so pretty.

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00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a good one. I didn't write that one,

1103
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 3: but it was a good song. I didn't write that,

1104
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 3: but I guess it was a good song. But it

1105
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 3: was okay, But it was.

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Speaker 4: Fantastic because we come out of the dance, got car

1107
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 4: hit and it's like Haley holding onto the headphones. Yeah,

1108
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 4: everyone's doing great.

1109
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 3: Everyone else is so happy.

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00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 4: Ah.

1111
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 5: I think for me, like peak of this season really

1112
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 5: just the homecoming of all of us.

1113
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 3: I loved, like, I love.

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00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 5: You know, despite the fact that we didn't really get

1115
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 5: to see each other in this episode. Like I love

1116
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 5: Brook and Peyton be in roommates because you know, we're

1117
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 5: all doing that's so advanced for twenty two year olds.

1118
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 5: I kind of love that these two twenty two year

1119
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 5: old girls live in a house together.

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Speaker 4: M h.

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Speaker 5: I think my honestly, my pit of season five is

1122
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 5: the stupid haircut.

1123
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 4: I hate growing out by this episode. You have been

1124
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 4: so mad this whole time and it looks so cute.

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01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 3: Guys, I just really hate it. So yeah, those are mine?

1126
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 3: What do you what do you got?

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01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 4: My pit for season five? Can Max the record store guy,

1128
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 4: what a loser? And then my peak for season five

1129
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 4: is Peyton being really clear about who she's into, but

1130
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 4: also like totally fine to just go work. Like I

1131
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 4: loved her being on the phone with Mia, just like

1132
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 4: who's this guy that you're talking to? Like, I love

1133
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 4: the foreshadowing going on in this episode, but like Peyton

1134
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 4: just putting her head down, getting her work done, not

1135
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 4: chasing that dude around, but like being really honest with

1136
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 4: anyone that asks her what her deal is. I I

1137
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 4: love it. It's less cry It's like, even though she

1138
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 4: tears up, it's not such pity party as like when

1139
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 4: she was younger and it was like nobody likes me,

1140
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 4: everybody leaves.

1141
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 3: It's a lot of emotional maturity. It's nice. Yeah, her

1142
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 3: way is punishing people is not throwing water balloons at.

1143
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 4: Them instead of God bless ah.

1144
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 3: I don't know, we weeping in the graveyard.

1145
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 4: In the graveyard. Well, I can't wait to come back

1146
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 4: for season six. I just remember the summer between season

1147
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 4: five and scene six as being my summer of debauchery,

1148
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 4: and so I love this era. I can't wait to

1149
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 4: come back, can't wait.

1150
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 3: I'm ready excited too.

1151
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I went home while we were filming this

1152
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 4: episode and just like made out with the dude that

1153
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 4: was Homecoming King the year before I graduated, and was

1154
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 4: just like, yeah, going home does feel cool. Yeah, I

1155
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 4: brooke Davis, my hometown. I love it.

1156
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 5: I love it.

1157
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 3: I did that when I was when I was though. Yes,

1158
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 3: I went back and like found my seventh grade boyfriend

1159
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 3: and was like, camere you this again, just for a while.

1160
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 3: I love it.

1161
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 4: We learned so much this year. All right, should we

1162
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 4: spend one final season five wheel Let's do it season?

1163
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 3: Uh?

1164
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 4: Who is most likely to forget their best friend's birthday?

1165
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 4: I mean, you guys know that we record these things

1166
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 4: well before they air. So today is actually Lee Norris's birthday.

1167
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 4: Have we all set him a message? We're gonna do

1168
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 4: it right now? Everybody texts Lee on three ready one

1169
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 4: two three.

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01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 5: Aday, buddy.

1171
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think who forgets birthdays? I do you do?

1172
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,439
Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't you know what. You guys are easy

1173
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:06,919
Speaker 3: for me because it's the dyscalcula. But for whatever reason,

1174
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 3: maybe just because I've known you for so long and

1175
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 3: we've been around each other every year for birthdays most

1176
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 3: I mean for a long time anyway. Yeah, but I

1177
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 3: think because life is so transient and we're always traveling,

1178
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 3: that if I'm not with you consistently during your birthday,

1179
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 3: the date will start to get mas muddy. Or if

1180
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 3: I remember the date, I don't know what day of

1181
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 3: the week it is that I'm in. Yeah, and so

1182
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 3: then I will forget. I never know what the actual

1183
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 3: date is today. I don't I have no idea what

1184
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 3: today's date is.

1185
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 5: If I don't open my calendar app, I don't have

1186
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 5: any idea what's going on.

1187
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I only know from like Facebook or other

1188
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 4: people telling me, like I, you know, I'm stressed.

1189
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 3: Because the robots have taken over all of our Like

1190
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 3: we used to know everybody's phone number by heart, and

1191
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 3: now we don't. Is this a byproduct of that?

1192
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 4: Dude? Absolutely?

1193
01:03:58,840 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1194
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 4: But if we don't sell it rate the birthday, does

1195
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 4: it actually happen? Right? Like? Do we get to just

1196
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 4: stay I'm perfectly.

1197
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 3: Fat I've been doing. Just don't celebrate.

1198
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, just sit right here at the sage forever? Yeah,

1199
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 4: which character? Which character doesn't remember? Well?

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01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 5: You want to know what's funny is I was going

1201
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 5: to be like that feels like a very Victoria Davis

1202
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 5: thing to do to never know when it's anyone's birthday

1203
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 5: because she doesn't care. But then my thought was, does

1204
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 5: Victoria even have friends? So I don't know.

1205
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 3: No, I feel like Victoria would know everyone's birthday but

1206
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 3: purposely never say anything to.

1207
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 4: Them, Like she definitely doesn't remember Brook's birthday. Remember the

1208
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 4: sad birthday brookat where she was all by herself with

1209
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 4: little copcake.

1210
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 3: That's all alone.

1211
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 4: Hated it? All right, you guys. Next episode? What do

1212
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 4: we got?

1213
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 3: Season six, Episode one? Touch me? I'm going to scream

1214
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 3: Part one? Ooh got our short titles give me anxiety?

1215
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean to quote eb Scott in this episode.

1216
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 4: It's not porn, it's erotica. Gotta love Devin skills. All right,

1217
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 4: you guys, this is a really fun one. Here we go,

1218
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 4: Season six, Gideot.

1219
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 3: Season six Mite. Hey, thanks for listening.

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01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,160
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1221
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,880
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01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:28,760
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1225
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,919
Speaker 2: We all about that high school drama girl, Drama Girl,

1226
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 2: all about them high school queens. We'll take you for

1227
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 2: a ride at our comic girl cheering for the right teams,

1228
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 2: Drama queens up girl fashion, but your tough girl.

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