Speaker 1: What's that at the bed. It's spooky, he jooky. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: he I'm goosted gas Nandez P Hey boo, it's me
Speaker 1: Roz and welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast
Speaker 1: where I talk to people that I like about the paranormal.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm in the brand new exactly right studios.
Speaker 1: H it feels so good in here. This place puts
Speaker 1: me in such a good mood. And yeah, we're going
Speaker 1: to be doing a lot of in person interviews where
Speaker 1: me and my guys are going to be in the
Speaker 1: same room together, which is so exciting. Uh, little by little,
Speaker 1: you know. And then we'll still do some zoom here
Speaker 1: and there. But right now, in this intro, I am
Speaker 1: in person my conversation with my guest today over zoom,
Speaker 1: So I'm easing you into it, you know. I don't
Speaker 1: want to I don't want to shock yet too much.
Speaker 1: But I do get to talk to a friend of
Speaker 1: mine named Hayden Johnson, who is a hilarious comedian and
Speaker 1: writer performer, and I love her so so much. She's
Speaker 1: one of the dolls. Maybe some of you don't know this.
Speaker 1: Do you know that doll? Like? That's that's what we
Speaker 1: call trans girls, like like a gorgeous, sickening trans diva.
Speaker 1: That's a doll. I mean, obviously it can mean a
Speaker 1: lot of different things, but that's why I like to
Speaker 1: talk about the dolls are living. But it can also
Speaker 1: mean that a doll is living, which reminds me I
Speaker 1: have something very exciting to say for the first time
Speaker 1: on this podcast. I am going to get me some
Speaker 1: cameras and go start a YouTube channel ghost hunting. That's right.
Speaker 1: I haven't even told my producer Jiha this. Who's looking
Speaker 1: at me right now. We're usually not in the same room.
Speaker 1: This is wild. I'm going to go ghost hunting and
Speaker 1: give the children what they want, and I am going
Speaker 1: to be going to some haunted locations seeing what happens.
Speaker 1: If nothing happens, at the very least, I hope I
Speaker 1: can make you laugh and I can give you some
Speaker 1: cute looks and we can have a good time. I
Speaker 1: am currently in pre production right now. I'm doing this
Speaker 1: one hundred percent on my own. Nobody's nobody's joining me,
Speaker 1: nobody's working with me to do any of that. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna do it, just why not. You know, I
Speaker 1: can get some cameras and I got some equipment, so
Speaker 1: I'm going out there and it's gonna be a little serious.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call the Haunted Doll, so look out for that.
Speaker 1: Make sure you're following me on Instagram at ros Hernandez,
Speaker 1: and I'll be telling you way more about it, especially
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna be having all these experiences, so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna want to come back and share with you on
Speaker 1: the pod. But yeah, people want me to be ghost hunting,
Speaker 1: and as of right now, I do not know anything
Speaker 1: about a Living for the Dead season two happening. That's
Speaker 1: out of my control. But what I can control is
Speaker 1: going ghost hunting. So I'm gonna do it, and I
Speaker 1: hope you enjoy. Oh another thing I'm doing, I'm going
Speaker 1: to Philadelphia. I'm gonna be at the Helium Comedy Club
Speaker 1: there doing non paranormal related joke telling and that will
Speaker 1: be the fourth of September, Philadelphia. I've never been there.
Speaker 1: I hope people love me. Please tell everyone you know
Speaker 1: in Philly I'll be there. Okay, here we go. Let's
Speaker 1: talk to my friend Hayden Johnson on with the show. Well, well,
Speaker 1: if it isn't my nemesis. Emphasis on SIS jasis Hayden Johnson.
Speaker 2: Who, oh my god, that's a beautiful intro.
Speaker 1: How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm good? Emphasis on SIS as a cis gender. Now
Speaker 2: s I s sis?
Speaker 1: You're transgender?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, no, am I outing you? I?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Can you imagine if I came on this and
Speaker 2: I got really upset with you because I didn't want anyone.
Speaker 1: To know that I was seeing? Well, sorry, well, I
Speaker 1: guess the cats out of the bag.
Speaker 2: Hats out, the cat's out.
Speaker 1: Ye, put these out, honey.
Speaker 2: I love how you're wearing sunglasses and what I can
Speaker 2: only assume is a closet.
Speaker 1: Okay, First of all, these are not sunglasses. These are
Speaker 1: tinted prescription glasses.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: Which for some reason people keep asking me at their
Speaker 1: transition lenses.
Speaker 2: No, I don't see that for you. I can't imagine
Speaker 2: you would do something like that.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what the fuck they're implying when
Speaker 1: they asked me at their transition lenses. Anyway, you've got bangs,
Speaker 1: so I'm assuming you know about astrology. Taro ye crystals.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they won't let you get them if you don't know.
Speaker 1: That's what I've learned the hard way. It turns out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you do have to at least act like you know
Speaker 1: that stuff because people will ask you certainly.
Speaker 2: And you know, once you get bangs, it's like you
Speaker 2: start getting invited to a lot more lesbian parties.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of it's a it really is
Speaker 1: like a world. It is of bangs. Girls.
Speaker 2: Girls don't know.
Speaker 1: It's been fun because like my audiences, I've noticed way
Speaker 1: more bangs.
Speaker 2: Oh, I can only imagine. I had some questions for
Speaker 2: you about your your audiences. Actually, okay, I do you
Speaker 2: find that your audience is like largely queer? Do you
Speaker 2: think like like gay gay men are a big part
Speaker 2: of your audience. Where do you find like the intersections
Speaker 2: of people you know?
Speaker 1: Mine is interesting? Are you talking about for stand up
Speaker 1: or for this podcast?
Speaker 2: Maybe both?
Speaker 1: I mean, because there's a huge section of people that
Speaker 1: only know me as somebody that makes jokes about debt people.
Speaker 1: Then they come to my shows and I only make
Speaker 1: jokes about a live people. So I always have a
Speaker 1: section of ghost ladies you know, or you know, kind
Speaker 1: of spread out, and then I have like young nasty
Speaker 1: gay guys and when I say nasty, I mean like
Speaker 1: they want that material, they want they bag me on
Speaker 1: to sort of start talking about dirty stuff. And then
Speaker 1: I always have to like check in with the ghost
Speaker 1: ladies and I'm like, I'm so sorry, like you're so
Speaker 1: you're used to me like talking about like you know, ghosts,
Speaker 1: and then yeah, So it's a balance. But I always
Speaker 1: feel like by the end of the night, the ghost
Speaker 1: ladies learn some new things, and you know, just it
Speaker 1: ends up being a fun queer everyone has bangs by
Speaker 1: the time they leave.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's fun. You're gluing bangs onto bald gay Then.
Speaker 1: Yes, I sell a piece. I sell a bang piece
Speaker 1: as my merch.
Speaker 2: That is good merch. That's great merch. Just ras bangs, yep.
Speaker 1: And there's either a clip or a stick. If you're bald,
Speaker 1: you get the stick one, yeah, the clip one for
Speaker 1: everyone else.
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see the cult that you that you're building.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get some ghost ladies when this episode comes out.
Speaker 2: Oh, I can't wait.
Speaker 1: You will definitely get like Sarah paranormal chick or something
Speaker 1: like that will start following you, and that's what to
Speaker 1: look forward to. But it's fun they're all great in there.
Speaker 1: They're cool, open minded people.
Speaker 2: I agree, and I want them to be doing my makeup.
Speaker 2: If I'm going to get my makeup done, I want
Speaker 2: it done by somebody named Sarah. Paranormal check.
Speaker 1: Once you've seen a ghost, you know how to do
Speaker 1: a cut crease. It's just a thing. I don't know why,
Speaker 1: but it's just. Yeah, there's some great makeup in the
Speaker 1: paranormal world, and I appreciate that, and great lesbians.
Speaker 2: I believe that.
Speaker 1: Going back to lesbians, lesbians love equipment, and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of equipment to play with in the paranormal world.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and I'm very great grateful for the lesbian
Speaker 1: community and their contributions to the afterlife.
Speaker 2: Yeah, going into a haunted house is a lot like
Speaker 2: doing a fixer upper, and I can see how that
Speaker 2: would appeal to lesbians. Me.
Speaker 1: Yes. So what is your deal with when it comes
Speaker 1: to like spiritual I mean what you live on the
Speaker 1: East Side of Los Angeles, You got bangs, You're around it,
Speaker 1: the witches in the spells in the what's a full
Speaker 1: moon like for Hayden Johnson?
Speaker 2: I think the full moon is almost always like I'm
Speaker 2: not doing anything intentionally, I'm never setting any kind of intentions,
Speaker 2: but when I am having some of the hardest nights
Speaker 2: or moments of my life and just everything is crumbling
Speaker 2: around me, there is always like a non binary person
Speaker 2: near me that will be like, well, there's a full
Speaker 2: moon tonight, and so for that reason, I'm like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think I believe in it. You know, absolutely, it
Speaker 2: can't just happen to be a full moon every single
Speaker 2: time I'm crying on my balcony, you know, like, seems
Speaker 2: like there's something to it, I think. So I think
Speaker 2: there's something to it. I don't know. I'm not I'm
Speaker 2: not in tune, but it's affecting me certainly.
Speaker 1: I'm not the person that knows that stuff either, but
Speaker 1: I can relate to that situation. I've had many times
Speaker 1: where I'm like, all right, I need to call up
Speaker 1: the local polyamory polycule and have one of them tell
Speaker 1: me where the stars are right now because something's not right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not my polycule. You got to find a different one.
Speaker 1: There's nobody in your polycule that that knows astrology.
Speaker 2: Astrologyer, I do have someone in my polycule that knows astrology,
Speaker 2: someone that's on the Reddit boards.
Speaker 1: Is that a candle next to you? What is that
Speaker 1: red thing that looks like a love candle? This is
Speaker 1: a little oh cranberry berry in line. Okay, wait a second.
Speaker 1: This is the difference between I always feel like polyamory
Speaker 1: people I can make fun of because they have way
Speaker 1: more love than I'll ever experience. So it's not punching down. No,
Speaker 1: But I sometimes have bought love manifestation candles and a
Speaker 1: tall clear glass with red wax, and it looks very
Speaker 1: much like your high ball of cranberry juice there. But
Speaker 1: I guess you don't need a love manifestation candle. No,
Speaker 1: I got a whole crew.
Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm I'm full up on it right now.
Speaker 2: I don't have time, and I can't. I can't manifest
Speaker 2: anything else. I think if I manifest anything else, I'm
Speaker 2: going to have a mental breakdown.
Speaker 1: How many how many crystals do you own?
Speaker 2: I don't own any crystals?
Speaker 1: Are those bangs real? I need to inspect those up clothes.
Speaker 2: I did like a money manifested candle, which shows you
Speaker 2: where my hat's are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I've done a lot of those.
Speaker 2: I did that. But the thing about manifestation candles. Is
Speaker 2: that they tell you that you have to leave them
Speaker 2: burning for like days the whole time. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 2: like a huge fire hazard, right.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's terrible. But I do it all the time constantly.
Speaker 1: There's always a money one going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the loved one. It's like, am I going
Speaker 2: to fall in love with a firefighter because that's the
Speaker 2: only that's the only person the scandal is going to
Speaker 2: bring into my life.
Speaker 1: My thing is I do the money things, and then
Speaker 1: I end up spending my money on crystals.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's an investment. It's like winning the lottery
Speaker 2: and then using that money to buy a bunch of
Speaker 2: lottery tickets for the next one.
Speaker 1: Exactly. I've spent all my money on all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff, and I don't I can't say that it's
Speaker 1: maybe it's worked. I don't know. I just I always
Speaker 1: feel like that, what's the harm? Yeah, you know, it
Speaker 1: smells nice, it's pretty.
Speaker 2: I also think, you know, regardless of what you believe,
Speaker 2: it's good to set an intention and like check in
Speaker 2: with yourself and be like, this is what I want,
Speaker 2: this is what I want to think about and focus on.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think what's the negative to that? Nothing.
Speaker 2: Nothing.
Speaker 1: My current intention I'm setting is I want to hear
Speaker 1: your beliefs on ghosts.
Speaker 2: Oh and I can. I can make that candle burn, Honey.
Speaker 1: I'm not putting it out.
Speaker 2: I think that ghosts are I believe in ghosts. I've
Speaker 2: been scared, I've been spookes. I've heard a lot of stories.
Speaker 2: Nothing specifically has happened to me, but I do think
Speaker 2: that there has to be something, you know, like, there's
Speaker 2: no there's no reason that there would be all this
Speaker 2: haunted shit if there weren't ghosts, in my opinion.
Speaker 1: So do you think that, like the industry of haunted
Speaker 1: and all that that's why you believe that it's possible?
Speaker 1: Because there's so much people talking about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's certainly people that are more like have
Speaker 2: have checked it more than me. And I'm like, I
Speaker 2: believe those people. They seem like they are onto something.
Speaker 1: You know, Do you believe me?
Speaker 2: I believe you. I believe whatever you say honestly when
Speaker 2: it comes to this, I'm like, Roz knows, Roz has
Speaker 2: gone to the Clown Hotel, ros Roz has been in it,
Speaker 2: you know, if she's been spooked, if she's seen something,
Speaker 2: get possessed whatever. I'm like, fully, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: Oh you never forget your first possession. I've seen a couple.
Speaker 2: I've seen a couple too. I don't think they had
Speaker 2: anything to do with a ghosts, but I know I've
Speaker 2: seen some possession certainly.
Speaker 1: Okay, So nothing has ever happened to you. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: still on this podcast. We're going to figure out why
Speaker 1: you're here. Has anyone that you trust and believe told
Speaker 1: you a story that you're like, okay, well they think so, certainly.
Speaker 2: Well, I know that my dad used to work in
Speaker 2: this like old haunted prison and there were a bunch
Speaker 2: of stories. There were just all kinds of stories there.
Speaker 2: Like one of the stories was that there was this
Speaker 2: janitor and he would be playing the radio and he
Speaker 2: would be like cleaning, and he would go in the
Speaker 2: other room and the radio would turn off, but he
Speaker 2: would come back in the room and turn the radio
Speaker 2: back on, then leave and it would turn off, and
Speaker 2: it like would keep happening. It like got super super
Speaker 2: crazy loud and like distorted and fucked up. Really scared
Speaker 2: the shit out of them. Like people would say that
Speaker 2: they saw like figures passing through the cells, like at
Speaker 2: night and one of them was like that one time,
Speaker 2: every single landline and the whole facility was just ringing NonStop.
Speaker 2: They couldn't get it stop ringing, and when they shut
Speaker 2: the power off, weird.
Speaker 1: That's what they don't tell you is like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're sending someone to prison and they're locked up and
Speaker 1: away from the world. You never hear them talk about
Speaker 1: we're sending them to a haunted house where there's no escape. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because all prisons are haunted, truly.
Speaker 2: I mean people have Like if you if a ghost
Speaker 2: is somebody with unfinished business or somebody with like a
Speaker 2: grudge or whatever, a spirit that still has something to do.
Speaker 2: I think being in prison, I would have a lot
Speaker 2: of revenge that I'd be seeking, certainly.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe you'll find out one day.
Speaker 2: I think I might. I think I'm bound to come
Speaker 2: back as a ghost. I have to start forgiving people
Speaker 2: otherwise is not going to be good for.
Speaker 1: Me, right. I know that I do feel that way,
Speaker 1: and I also feel like, okay, the unfinished business, like okay,
Speaker 1: I go get this pilot off the ground, or like
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, because that's all la is is a
Speaker 1: bunch of dead people whose pilot never got picked up,
Speaker 1: and now they're wandering around the Roosevelt Hotel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're Honestly, that's a great idea for a show
Speaker 2: for you is where you just help you help former
Speaker 2: actors and stuff finish their business by like getting their
Speaker 2: big role or doing their big musical or whatever whatever
Speaker 2: they have to do to get to the other side.
Speaker 1: People always talk about how haunted LA is and I
Speaker 1: always say it's because of the unfinished business. And yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe that's my purpose in life is to just tell
Speaker 1: all these ghosts you're a star, baby. I should just
Speaker 1: have them all come on my podcast. Honestly, I should
Speaker 1: just do seances on this podcast with people that died,
Speaker 1: you know, during pilot season, and then they'll find we
Speaker 1: have their moment. Yeah, and then they'll be ready to cross.
Speaker 2: People that died right as they were getting their headshots taken, Like, uh,
Speaker 2: you're so close.
Speaker 1: So were you raised with beliefs on this? So your
Speaker 1: dad at least had hearsay of this kind of thing,
Speaker 1: was he was? He a believer?
Speaker 2: Definitely, And my mom is very I don't know if
Speaker 2: my mom believes in ghosts, but she certainly believes in
Speaker 2: like the other side.
Speaker 1: Okay, so like Santa Monica.
Speaker 2: I would love if that was the way my mom
Speaker 2: talked to me, like she believes that, like you know,
Speaker 2: people in heaven can affect our lives and like Guardian angels.
Speaker 1: Is she Christian?
Speaker 2: Certainly?
Speaker 1: What kind?
Speaker 2: Uh Catholic?
Speaker 1: Okay, that's ghosts, but like cool, cool Catholic, gay Catholic
Speaker 1: like the Pope.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the Pope. The Pope is gay, like the Pope.
Speaker 2: Spent slurris. He's been getting a brunch with trans women.
Speaker 2: I love, I love.
Speaker 1: Wait he had brunch with trans women. You don't know that, No,
Speaker 1: I know he had comedians over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is which is even more controversial in my opinion.
Speaker 1: He didn't have any trans comedians. How about he does
Speaker 1: a trans comedian day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's just it's just me, you and Norian.
Speaker 2: We're yes, you're chopping it up with the Pope. I
Speaker 2: love the literally, I think he had like twenty two
Speaker 2: trans women over for a big spaghetti lunch. What I'm
Speaker 2: being I'm not making this up.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe pick these trans women from I don't know.
Speaker 1: No one called me I want to eat spaghetti with
Speaker 1: the Pope with miss Francis.
Speaker 2: I know we gotta you know, you know you've made it.
Speaker 2: When you're eating spaghetti next to the pope as a
Speaker 2: trans woman, You're like, you're like like unclockable, you know, Like, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, why what was his point of meeting with them was?
Speaker 2: I think I think that he was being like, you know,
Speaker 2: showing that a real Catholic should h should should break
Speaker 2: bread or break meatballs with anyone, you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you were raised Catholic certainly, And I'll say,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: This is a spiritual story. But a story that I
Speaker 2: do that is that I would when I was growing up,
Speaker 2: I would always have nightmares about the Devil. How a
Speaker 2: dream that I'd be like walking through a field and
Speaker 2: they'd be like bunnies and like really cute stuff, and
Speaker 2: then the sky would go dark and all the trees
Speaker 2: would die and the devil would appear in the sky.
Speaker 2: I would like wake up and I'd be all upset
Speaker 2: and I'd be crying. And then one day my mom
Speaker 2: was like, I know you've been having these devil nightmares,
Speaker 2: so I'm going to hang across above your bed. Oh
Speaker 2: and then she did that and the nightmares stopped. I
Speaker 2: have I never had that nightmare again, So I don't
Speaker 2: know God is real, Jesus, is.
Speaker 1: This what you've told the Pope to get invited to
Speaker 1: the This is how.
Speaker 2: I ended up at the spaghetti lunch.
Speaker 1: I'm so mad about the spaghetti lunch. Still.
Speaker 2: I know it's like it's being snubbed. It's like, if
Speaker 2: I don't get on the out one hundred, that's one thing.
Speaker 2: But you know, let me get at me at least
Speaker 2: gets spaghetti with the Pope.
Speaker 1: You know, I can't believe that's my new goal. But okay,
Speaker 1: going back to your story, I'm like a more serious note.
Speaker 1: That is what I preach all the time that I
Speaker 1: believe when it comes to bad energies or demons or whatever,
Speaker 1: what you believe is stronger than them. And so if
Speaker 1: you've got this cross and you're like, okay, well this
Speaker 1: is going to protect me, then I think you're good.
Speaker 1: That's my opinion.
Speaker 2: I agree. I think I think that we hold a
Speaker 2: lot of spiritual power, more spiritual power than any other
Speaker 2: like entity. No one can be stronger than us if
Speaker 2: we believe that we're stronger than it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we're also connected to a body. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: have you seen this body? Mom?
Speaker 2: This body is powerful.
Speaker 1: So don't try it the demon. Well, where are you from?
Speaker 2: I am from Ohio. I'm from little town calledman Roe, Ohio.
Speaker 1: Oh Ohio is definitely a paranormal hot spot. A lot
Speaker 1: of paranormal professionals that I live in Ohio some of
Speaker 1: my favorite ones. Actually, I think there's some great some
Speaker 1: great people there. There's a lot of haunted places. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of weird phenomenal definitely.
Speaker 2: I went to school at one of the most haunted
Speaker 2: colleges in the country, which one Ohio University. Why is
Speaker 2: it haunted above the universities? Like down here right and
Speaker 2: then on a hill is like the it was like
Speaker 2: an Ohio Insane asylum. And around the insane asylum are
Speaker 2: graveyards in the shape of a pentagram.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I know, but yeah, I got it
Speaker 1: was like really fucked out the insane asylum while it existed,
Speaker 1: and then it just got abandoned and now it just
Speaker 1: like sits like overlooking this university.
Speaker 2: So like you'd be walking to class and you could
Speaker 2: look up on the hill and see the asylum. Oh god,
Speaker 2: it's called the Ridges. It's called what it was called
Speaker 2: the Ridges? Can you just go inside? You can't. But
Speaker 2: The thing that that you would do is you would
Speaker 2: you know, get drunk or you know, do drugs, and
Speaker 2: you would go up on the hill and you would
Speaker 2: sneak in and they usually had people patrolling, but like
Speaker 2: you could you could get in there.
Speaker 1: Ooh.
Speaker 2: It was really scary though. I was never I never
Speaker 2: went very far with the Ridges, but it's like we
Speaker 2: would do, you know, we would do little little trips
Speaker 2: up there at night, and it's it was spooky. It
Speaker 2: was scary.
Speaker 1: I've heard I've heard of the Ridges and now I
Speaker 1: think about it. I think I've had people on the
Speaker 1: show talk about that before. This isn't the same school
Speaker 1: that has like the outline of a body on the
Speaker 1: ground someplace. Does that ring a belt?
Speaker 2: No? But we did have like, you know, like some
Speaker 2: haunted dorms. Like there was a dorm where somebody had
Speaker 2: committed suicide and another kid stayed there and then that
Speaker 2: kid died and then they like closed off the dorm
Speaker 2: and like boarded it up, so there was like there
Speaker 2: was no door to it, but the room itself was
Speaker 2: still like still there. You just couldn't get into it,
Speaker 2: just had a window into it.
Speaker 1: Oh weird, Yeah, I know, right, what is going on
Speaker 1: in that room. There's a school that is haunted that
Speaker 1: I just learned about, so I did some research. It
Speaker 1: is called Old Gay Hill High School. Did you go there?
Speaker 1: It's actually in Texas and it's a haunted abandoned high
Speaker 1: school and this entire town is a ghost town. And
Speaker 1: my research comes from Corpus christispookcentral dot com. Wow, this
Speaker 1: is in Washington County, Texas, and it's called Gay Hill
Speaker 1: the ghost town because it was named for Thomas Gay
Speaker 1: and William Carol Jackson Hill. For names William Carroll Jackson Hill.
Speaker 1: I was named after two men, Yeah, Gay and Hill.
Speaker 1: M Oh sure sure. So now it's called Gay Hill.
Speaker 1: But you can go to this ghost town and it's
Speaker 1: super haunted, and I'll read you some of spook Central
Speaker 1: Corpus CHRISTI has to say about this school. It says
Speaker 1: Old Gay Hill School, just outside of Big Spring. Supposedly. Supposedly,
Speaker 1: the school's ceiling collapsed and killed students in the auditorium.
Speaker 1: The principal knew about the safety hazard concerning the ceiling,
Speaker 1: and he didn't do anything about it until it was
Speaker 1: too late. He felt guilty and went home and unlived himself.
Speaker 1: That's my edit. The principal haunts the house and the
Speaker 1: children haunt the school. Strange lights, sounds, and apparitions can
Speaker 1: be observed at both the house and the school. The
Speaker 1: school was reported to be a place for devil worship.
Speaker 1: After the disaster occurred, Feelings of being watched and stalked
Speaker 1: occur at the school. Another story is basically a girl
Speaker 1: died in the girl's bathroom.
Speaker 2: Not as much reverence for this girl. Suddenly when it came,
Speaker 2: when it came to the kids and the principal, it
Speaker 2: was like, no, I'm so sorry. What happened? What happened?
Speaker 1: She says, she hung herself.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, well, and I wasn't saying anything about this girl.
Speaker 1: And it says reasons floating around are that she failed
Speaker 1: a class, she had been rejected, and was murdered. Wait
Speaker 1: a minute, okay, I don't know about my facts here
Speaker 1: with Corpus Christie, et cetera. But after her death, the school,
Speaker 1: then a town began to fade away. With the town
Speaker 1: in repression, the school was in trouble. Press and families
Speaker 1: were getting a lot of heat on the school, and
Speaker 1: it was too much for the principal. That's when he
Speaker 1: killed him. Okay, there's a lot of suicide here. I apologize.
Speaker 1: After these events, the school was shut down and the
Speaker 1: town no longer exists. But you can visit this school.
Speaker 1: Be careful because it's falling apart. The roof is caved in,
Speaker 1: and there is metal and rocks everywhere. It is said
Speaker 1: that the bathroom and the principal's office are very cold,
Speaker 1: with a I was just in Texas last week. Take
Speaker 1: me to the principal's office at this school. That would
Speaker 1: be great. It's so hot there. Yeah, with a sense
Speaker 1: of being watched. It feels like you're almost being breezed
Speaker 1: on on the back of your neck if you can
Speaker 1: stand it. As you stand in the bathroom with no lights,
Speaker 1: unable to see anything, you can almost see a girl's
Speaker 1: face right in front of your face, looking you right
Speaker 1: in the eyes. What are you talking about? You can oh?
Speaker 2: Most is that you can almost see a girl's face?
Speaker 2: Or is the girl? Is the face almost a girl's face?
Speaker 2: Why don't you look at me?
Speaker 1: What you think?
Speaker 2: I was looking at my own confuter screen. I'm looking
Speaker 2: at the at the two of us. You know, I
Speaker 2: would say, you know, I have almost a girl's face.
Speaker 2: I'd say if you stand in a bathroom long enough
Speaker 2: and look at me.
Speaker 1: I would almost like a girl.
Speaker 2: I look almost like almost you'll feel me breathing down
Speaker 2: your neck.
Speaker 1: Now here's a question. Am I allowed in this girl's bathroom?
Speaker 2: Yeah? This is It is in Texas, So I don't know.
Speaker 1: Would you go and visit Old Gay High School?
Speaker 2: Not alone, I don't think, but I would go. If
Speaker 2: you want to go, we can go. Get there.
Speaker 1: Let's go sneak around old gay old.
Speaker 2: Gay High School.
Speaker 1: I mean I love old gay Hell. Sorry, old gay hell.
Speaker 1: I'm putting on dying on an.
Speaker 2: Old gay I love. I love it old day.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, of course.
Speaker 2: I think the thing that makes me laugh the most
Speaker 2: about this I think very spooky, sounds very spooky. But
Speaker 2: for them to just add in that there's lots of rocks.
Speaker 1: In class, Oh yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: Like, I don't know if that's so haunted. That's sort
Speaker 2: of just walking around an old building.
Speaker 1: True. Well, and it's like the ceiling might cave in. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: it caved in and crushed all the children in the auditorium.
Speaker 2: Yeah, lightning doesn't strike twice.
Speaker 1: They were just trying to do thoroughly modern million there
Speaker 1: or something and then the ceiling comes down.
Speaker 2: I think that I would if I knew that all
Speaker 2: the kids died while they were performing a musical, then
Speaker 2: I wouldn't go to the high school. I couldn't go
Speaker 2: to this high school. I'd be terrified. That would be
Speaker 2: the most haunting thing I could imagine.
Speaker 1: That's the ghost. Yeah, it is them trying to practice
Speaker 1: their parts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're scaring me because they need to finish
Speaker 2: it into the woods or whatever.
Speaker 1: Children will live where you grew up in Monroe, ioho Ohio, Ohio,
Speaker 1: you mix them all together. Did you have any urban legends?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I lived. I lived not far from the moth Man.
Speaker 1: Oh oh yes, Mount Pleasant, West Virginia.
Speaker 2: Many friends went to see went to go and see
Speaker 2: the moth Man.
Speaker 1: Did they ever see the moth Man?
Speaker 2: No, But you know, it was like it was like again,
Speaker 2: I've been I've been friends with lesbians for a long time. Okay,
Speaker 2: this isn't new, and lesbians in Ohio they love to
Speaker 2: go see the moth Man. They were doing it. They
Speaker 2: were doing it all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I believe that we don't know the gender
Speaker 1: of the moth person. And I think that I call
Speaker 1: it moth them, because I just think it's not fair
Speaker 1: to assume.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's some it's very queer to be to be
Speaker 2: the moth. Yeah, it's very free to have moth wings
Speaker 2: and to.
Speaker 1: Have a lesbian fan base.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're right, You're right. It certainly can't be
Speaker 2: a man something. There's something there.
Speaker 1: So I have a sort of new segment here on
Speaker 1: the show. I love like these urban legends. I'm glad
Speaker 1: you know about the Mothman, because like every town has these,
Speaker 1: and there's so many of them all over the world,
Speaker 1: and a lot of times they have fun names, you know.
Speaker 1: I recently found one called the Dildo Monster of Dildo
Speaker 1: Pond and it's a real monster. It's a real pond.
Speaker 1: It's in Newfoundland.
Speaker 2: You found my burner the monster buildo Pond?
Speaker 1: Is that your finsta? So I'm gonna play a game
Speaker 1: with you. This game is called Beast or Bust. Okay,
Speaker 1: still kind of working on the title. I'm pretty good
Speaker 1: at titles. I don't know if I like that one
Speaker 1: that much, but that's what we got for them that,
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm going to give you four candidates
Speaker 1: here for these creatures that people report seeing and one
Speaker 1: of them is real, So I need you to tell
Speaker 1: me which one you think is real. Okay, oh great?
Speaker 1: First up, the horse faced Hucci of Jersey City, New Jersey.
Speaker 2: I can't be the.
Speaker 1: One scene as here's a little blurb about it. Scene
Speaker 1: as a woman with a gorgeous body in the face
Speaker 1: of a horse. This dancing diva lures men with her
Speaker 1: sensual moves, making them unable to say nay. Okay. That's one.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Here's the next one, the Donkey Lady of San Antonio, Texas.
Speaker 1: I think I know her, said to wander the sight
Speaker 1: of her death. This ghostly creature resembles a woman with
Speaker 1: hoofs and a donkey head. This is surely one ass
Speaker 1: that'll make you shake. Okay, that's the Donkey Lady of
Speaker 1: San Antonio, Texas. The next one the cameltoe of San
Speaker 1: Bernardino County, San Bernardino, resembling a six foot tall foot
Speaker 1: of a camel. This furry frightener means no harm, though
Speaker 1: if you encounter it. Once you see it, you can't
Speaker 1: look away. This is the camel toe of San Bernardino County.
Speaker 1: And last one, the colossal cock of Provincetown, Massachusetts. Okay,
Speaker 1: that one just speaks for it.
Speaker 2: Doesn't have a blur.
Speaker 1: That one does have a blurb. That one's just a
Speaker 1: poultry pecker that has been sighted. Oh okay, So which
Speaker 1: one do you think is real? Okay, Well, got me
Speaker 1: to go through it again.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think I think I have them. So
Speaker 2: it's the It's the horse Face Lady, horse Face houchi,
Speaker 2: no Jersey City, New Jersey, the donkey Face Lady.
Speaker 1: The Donkey Lady of San Antonio, Texas.
Speaker 2: And then we have the cameltoe of San Bernardino County
Speaker 2: and the colossal cock of Provincetown, Massachusetts. Well, I believe
Speaker 2: that the colossal cock is certainly in Provincetown, Massachusetts. I
Speaker 2: believe that that's there.
Speaker 1: Well, that's an eight foot tall chicken. Sorry I did
Speaker 1: I should have said that.
Speaker 2: Oh well, I mean, okay, sure, sure, it's an eight
Speaker 2: foot tall chicken. I think that for the cameltoe of
Speaker 2: San Bernardino to be real, it would make me believe
Speaker 2: in good again, I think. But I don't believe that
Speaker 2: that's the one. I want to believe that it's the
Speaker 2: It's the horse Faced Turcy.
Speaker 1: You are wrong, Oh, it is the donkey lady. It's
Speaker 1: the San Antonio, Texas. Okay, that is a real urban legend.
Speaker 1: Now it's sort of a part ghost, part cryptid creature.
Speaker 1: It's actually sad. There's now here's the thing. To my knowledge,
Speaker 1: there is no actual verifiable record of this story ever happening,
Speaker 1: But there are many legends, a couple of different legends
Speaker 1: about this woman who basically was burnt up and her
Speaker 1: fingers melted down and she looked like she had hoops,
Speaker 1: and then her face got elongated and looked like a donkey,
Speaker 1: and so she looked like that as a living human,
Speaker 1: and then she died and now she haunts Donkey Lady Bridge.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, yeah, and if I was her, I would
Speaker 2: also hon Donkey Lady Bridge, would say.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I would be happy about that.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be thrilled if I died and then they
Speaker 2: called the bridge that I died around. If they dedicated
Speaker 2: a bridge to me called the Donkey Lady Bridge.
Speaker 1: Could you imagine I die in my apartment and they
Speaker 1: put up a plaque outside of my apartment. That's like
Speaker 1: the horse face bitch lived here in memory and loving memory.
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's tons. It's actually quite popular. A lot
Speaker 1: of people go out there. Some people think it's from
Speaker 1: the eighteen hundred. Some people think it's like a story
Speaker 1: from the fifties. Who knows?
Speaker 2: Does she? Does? She have a great ass? Is that
Speaker 2: a part of it?
Speaker 1: I mean, for a name like the Donkey Lady. Come on,
Speaker 1: he huh, she is half ass. Honey, She's got a
Speaker 1: beer named after her. She's real popular in San Antonio.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I would take a I would take a
Speaker 2: beer named after me. I don't know if I want
Speaker 2: to bridge because I can. You know that can collapse
Speaker 2: or whatever, but a beer sounds fun. Well, Donkey Lady.
Speaker 1: Beer all things you have to look forward to one day.
Speaker 1: Can I play you some ghost voices?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yes, please, it's time for EVP or ev plicse Okay,
Speaker 1: have you ever heard the term EVP?
Speaker 2: Yes? I have. It's uh, it's the it's the thing
Speaker 2: where you you read the sound of a ghost and
Speaker 2: there's like a lot of noise, but you can kind
Speaker 2: of hear a voice speaking in the background. Correct.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think what you're referring to is like a
Speaker 1: spirit box, which is sweeps through like radio channels and
Speaker 1: it'll say things to you. That's one way to do it.
Speaker 1: I prefer not to listen to those on the podcast
Speaker 1: because I just think that they sound awful whatever. So
Speaker 1: mainly the way that I find EVPs is I go
Speaker 1: to YouTube and I find people that are ghost hunting
Speaker 1: and they have just captured a good old fashioned voice
Speaker 1: that the recording has gotten where it's it's not through
Speaker 1: any machine. It's just a voice.
Speaker 2: Love it.
Speaker 1: And I have two of them for you. They are
Speaker 1: both from the same YouTube channel which has some great
Speaker 1: stuff on it. It is called Wyoming Area Spirit Posse
Speaker 1: and uh, the Spirit Posse of the Wyoming Area went
Speaker 1: to a place called Irma hotel in Cody, Wyoming. What
Speaker 1: does this ghost say? Okay, it's a whisper, I'll played again.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's saying, Jeff, I want to fuck you.
Speaker 1: Oh my god?
Speaker 2: Is Jeff and the Spirit Posse?
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know all the members of the posse,
Speaker 1: but there could be a Jeff. Let me hear again,
Speaker 1: you're here right. It does say Jeff, I want to
Speaker 1: fuck you.
Speaker 2: Jeff.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's the ghost of a former lover
Speaker 1: of Jeff Dunham.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's a poppy ghost.
Speaker 1: Wait let me play it again. Okay, well that's not
Speaker 1: what they thought. Okay, did they think it was A?
Speaker 1: What's wrong with pad tie? What is wrong with pads?
Speaker 1: Let's have pad tie always? Is it B? Watch out
Speaker 1: for that guy? Who'd you call A guy? See, we'll
Speaker 1: get you back? Try or D? What's up Wyoming? It's irma.
Speaker 2: I I really think it's Jeff. I want to fuck you.
Speaker 2: But if it's not that, then maybe it's I'll get you.
Speaker 2: I'll get you back.
Speaker 1: They believe it was B. Watch out for that guy.
Speaker 1: Let me play it again. Okay, I hear it, I
Speaker 1: can hear it. Watch out for Jeff, Watch out for Jeff. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's one more. Same same people found this. This is
Speaker 1: from Gray Bull Hotel in graybel Wyoming. What is this
Speaker 1: one saying? Okay, this ghost sounds hot as fuck?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this ghost is a is authoritative.
Speaker 1: I feel wait, let me put it.
Speaker 2: That I'm hearing. I don't want to I'm not going
Speaker 2: to do that one. I'm not going to do that one.
Speaker 1: Why not live a little giant? Come on, god, I
Speaker 1: think this guy is hot, whoever he is. I'm about
Speaker 1: to book me a stay at the Gray Bowl Hotel
Speaker 1: is it A. Yeah, I did drag once. Is it B? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm the bad one.
Speaker 2: Oh, Billy?
Speaker 1: Is it C? Yeah, I'll give you that one. Or D. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll give you a BackRub.
Speaker 2: Oh please let it be D.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me play it again. Which one of those
Speaker 1: is it?
Speaker 2: Is it B? No?
Speaker 1: It is not, it is Yeah, I'll give you that one.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know. I still hear. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to do that one.
Speaker 1: It's definitely something that one. I think, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's I would do that one. Yeah, right there, it's
Speaker 1: you and I walk in. I know. Yeah, the ghost
Speaker 1: is like I would do that one.
Speaker 2: I would do that one. I'm not going to do
Speaker 2: that one.
Speaker 1: I am not doing that one. I'll do that one.
Speaker 2: I feel like these ghosts are going to tear us apart.
Speaker 1: No, nothing could change a part. I want to do
Speaker 1: one more thing. We have a couple of minutes. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna name a bunch of like paranormal, supernatural, mysterious things,
Speaker 1: and I'm curious your thoughts or maybe it'll inspire a
Speaker 1: story or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, psychics, psychics, I'm not so sure of. I think
Speaker 2: there are probably some that are very real and I
Speaker 2: think there are some that are scammers, right, but I
Speaker 2: did have Like so two years ago, I went to
Speaker 2: the Magic Castle and I waited a long time for
Speaker 2: this like really renowned tarot reader to do my taro
Speaker 2: and she said a lot of really spooky, accurate stuff
Speaker 2: and kind of predicted something really big that was about
Speaker 2: to happen in my life. And it it like made
Speaker 2: me emotional there and then like a week later, kind
Speaker 2: of what she said happened a.
Speaker 1: Was it something that you were able to like now
Speaker 1: that she put that seed in your head?
Speaker 2: She said that something really bad was going to happen
Speaker 2: to me, and she said that I was going to
Speaker 2: get a lot of career success, and so, wow, something
Speaker 2: bad did happen to me After that happened. There was
Speaker 2: a lot of career success. And maybe that's just the
Speaker 2: LA trade off, but yeah, it was. It was a
Speaker 2: creepy terror reading and she was very nice. She did
Speaker 2: a great job.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel like that's a great way to
Speaker 1: do well in LA is to be like you're gonna
Speaker 1: get something really big soon.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Yeah, that's why what she was doing every
Speaker 2: single time, and everyone was like she's good, She's really good.
Speaker 1: She's good, she knew I'm talented.
Speaker 2: She has like the fame card just on on speed dial.
Speaker 1: Just it's all that totally. I mean, that's what magicians
Speaker 1: do to be like pick is this your card? They
Speaker 1: know how to make you pick that up card.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about magicians?
Speaker 1: Ros frustrated? They drive me insane, they won't text me back.
Speaker 1: I just really it really makes me angry, and I
Speaker 1: feel like I have to know how to do it.
Speaker 1: But I also feel so bad because you can look
Speaker 1: up how every trick is done now and I do.
Speaker 1: And I have spent time on YouTube watching these videos
Speaker 1: of these because it's like they really preserved that secret
Speaker 1: for a long time, and I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it's fucked up. I wish that there was
Speaker 1: a way to keep it a secret, but it's just
Speaker 1: like impossible. Because I do. I love it. I respect
Speaker 1: it a lot. I think it's an incredible art form.
Speaker 1: And I think the Magic Castle is the coolest place ever.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and it's haunted.
Speaker 2: I believe that. Do they love you over there? I've
Speaker 2: been because they show a membership for life for Ross.
Speaker 1: I want to get a membership actually, because it's almost
Speaker 1: like a country club, and I'm like, that's my I
Speaker 1: want to be around like weirdos that would spend money
Speaker 1: to see magic tricks.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. I used to work with somebody who is
Speaker 2: on like the Halloween Board of planning at the Magic Castle, okay,
Speaker 2: and every day I would come in, should be like
Speaker 2: there's more drama with the Halloween board, Like we can't
Speaker 2: decide whether it's going to be like doll eyes or
Speaker 2: spiders in the in the bathroom. It's major. It's like
Speaker 2: a whole community and there's a lot of trans women
Speaker 2: in that community of magicians go to the Magic Castle
Speaker 2: on any given night and don't look for them, you know,
Speaker 2: but I think you'll. I think you'll see You'll see them.
Speaker 2: You'll see them.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Are they like I'll make your man disappear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, They're just like the countiest dolls you can imagine. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Gigi Gorgeous is always at the Magic I.
Speaker 1: Just want to get split in half at the Magic
Speaker 1: cass I.
Speaker 2: You know, there is there is something that I like
Speaker 2: hate about magicians so much, but it is also like
Speaker 2: a little bit hot. It's like, god, you just it's
Speaker 2: like it's like scheme kind of it's like slimy, I
Speaker 2: don't know it's.
Speaker 1: Something well, and there's a long history like because here's
Speaker 1: the thing that's insane. Like with magicians, we know it's
Speaker 1: like in art, force, the illusion, it's all of that stuff.
Speaker 1: But what they're basically trying to show you is like
Speaker 1: I have magic powers. What I can do is superhuman
Speaker 1: or whatever, and it's easy to fall for it, honestly.
Speaker 1: But that's where it comes into the paranormal, because I
Speaker 1: do think that psychics have ways of doing that as well,
Speaker 1: and I think that throughout history a lot of these
Speaker 1: stories of like we saw something lavitate, It's like it
Speaker 1: could be some of the times, but like there was
Speaker 1: I think there was definitely times where people thought a
Speaker 1: magician was really doing the thing. I've seen magicians before
Speaker 1: where I'm like, this is impossible. There's like one magician
Speaker 1: that's like kind of famous that sometimes does stand up
Speaker 1: shows in la and I've seen him do things before
Speaker 1: where I'm like, that's there's no way that that just happened.
Speaker 1: Like my mind is fun Like it's the same feeling
Speaker 1: I've gotten when I've been at haunted places a few times.
Speaker 1: A couple of times I've seen things with my eyes
Speaker 1: where I'm like, how was that possible?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's also how you feel when you see me
Speaker 2: do comedy.
Speaker 1: Right, same thing. How is that possible?
Speaker 2: How is that possible? Damn? That's crazy. I mean when
Speaker 2: I saw Magicians of the Magic Castle, my feeling was
Speaker 2: like I think I saw something within magic that was
Speaker 2: like similar to stand up comedians, and I think it
Speaker 2: was it was triggering. I was like, I can't this energy.
Speaker 2: It's that energy. But everyone's like these guys are like
Speaker 2: sex gods. It's like the two of those things combined,
Speaker 2: and I can't handle that. Really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot to take. Yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 2: I have a lot of feelings about it's a lot
Speaker 2: to take.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I get that for sure. But I'm also
Speaker 1: obsessed with Sick Freedom broy Like very I have like
Speaker 1: three Sick Freedom broy T shirts. I think they're awesome. WOA, Like,
Speaker 1: first of all, how could you be a gay man
Speaker 1: that's into razzle, dazzle and Giant Siberian Tiger magic and
Speaker 1: then you find another man that's also into that? And
Speaker 1: not only that they were together for like sixty years.
Speaker 1: What that's magic?
Speaker 2: Did people know that they were gay while they were alive, Like.
Speaker 1: Oh god, am I outing them now too?
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I don't know a ton
Speaker 2: about them.
Speaker 1: They lived together in a house and they were I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure gay, yet they were gay.
Speaker 2: They were gay. I believe that they were gay. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's the gayest thing you can do. It's something so
Speaker 2: gay I couldn't even have imagined it myself.
Speaker 1: It is, but it's a specific it's a very specific gay.
Speaker 1: It is that wants to make tigers appear out of nowhere.
Speaker 2: I mean, the tiger king is that kind.
Speaker 1: Of That's another Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: There's a there's a type of this type of guy
Speaker 2: that's like, not only do I want to kiss men,
Speaker 2: maybe they just crave danger, you know, they just like
Speaker 2: they're just like I want to be with men, and
Speaker 2: I want to.
Speaker 3: Be as close to a tiger as possible. Like they're just,
Speaker 3: I know what an interesting thing. And tiger gays really
Speaker 3: are a thing. Huh, tiger gays. Everyone's talking about bears
Speaker 3: and otters.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's the tigers that you need to look out for. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I was planning on doing a couple of topics. Let's
Speaker 1: try two more Bigfoot.
Speaker 2: Oh, Bigfoot, I love. I think Bigfoot's so fun. I
Speaker 2: hope the Bigfoot's real. They recently got another picture of Bigfoot, right,
Speaker 2: did you see that, Carl.
Speaker 1: They're always finding pictures of Bigfoot that they say, I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's crazy how into it people are, like,
Speaker 1: people go really crazy for it. There are like eight
Speaker 1: seasons of TV shows where they never have once found Bigfoot,
Speaker 1: but the shows keep going on and on and on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're like, well, if this is the one,
Speaker 2: this is going to be crazy.
Speaker 1: Of course.
Speaker 2: Do you think if they found Bigfoot they would win
Speaker 2: an Emmy?
Speaker 1: No, everyone would think it's fake. Right, there's no way
Speaker 1: that anyone would think that that's real. The boys should
Speaker 1: Yet I can't get a TV show made.
Speaker 2: You were looking for something that's really than Bigfoot.
Speaker 1: Yes, honey, I want the Donkey Lady.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you should do Finding Donkey Lady.
Speaker 1: Finding Donkey Lady, come into Discovery Plus. Yeah, it's me
Speaker 1: and you at the Donkey Lady Bridge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're just hanging out a bridge every night.
Speaker 2: They're gonna they're gonna they're gonna be like, who are
Speaker 2: those two trans women that are always hanging around the
Speaker 2: Donkey Lady Bridge.
Speaker 1: Hell, yeah, we're.
Speaker 2: Going to get the bridge renamed after us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Donkey Lady and two trans Lady Bridge.
Speaker 2: The Donkey Lady and her horse Hucci Bridge.
Speaker 1: I think that the Donkey Lady is a trans ally.
Speaker 2: I think so too. I mean she she had some
Speaker 2: work done.
Speaker 1: I don't she knows transformation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Donkey Lady Donkey Lady feels like a
Speaker 2: like a kink to me.
Speaker 1: Are you into donkey Lady play?
Speaker 2: I'm not into donkey Lady play, but it does seem
Speaker 2: like you know, they were they are real sexual. In
Speaker 2: that description of her, they said her ass is beckoning you,
Speaker 2: donkey lady. I don't know, you know, it's giving Pinocchio.
Speaker 1: Or or okay, last one. What do you think of
Speaker 1: huh oh UFOs oh.
Speaker 2: I think aliens are absolutely real, and I think that
Speaker 2: we've already figured something out that we don't know that
Speaker 2: nobody's told us about.
Speaker 1: Like you think the government knows absolutely.
Speaker 2: I think the government knows something that's like would make
Speaker 2: us all go fucking crazy if we found out.
Speaker 1: I do too, And they somehow have it to have
Speaker 1: an agreement with these other beings, Like listen, our people
Speaker 1: down here will freak the fuck out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't think that we have anything that
Speaker 2: anybody wants, you know, Like, I think we've destroyed this
Speaker 2: planet enough. There's nothing super valuable. We're not really going
Speaker 2: to be helpful to a different species, like a higher intelligence.
Speaker 2: I don't think that we're we're nothing. You know, It's
Speaker 2: like we could be there, like we could be their pets.
Speaker 1: Okay, speak for yourself.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just don't know. Like, if there are aliens,
Speaker 2: I do think that they're much They're much smarter than
Speaker 2: us and much farther ahead. So it's like just grateful
Speaker 2: that they're leaving us alone.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get up there.
Speaker 2: I think that you should. I think we should send you.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I am not kidding you. I would if they
Speaker 1: were looking for like nominations. Yeah, I would put myself
Speaker 1: in the ring for sure.
Speaker 2: I think that you'd be a great person to talk
Speaker 2: to them. I think, you know, you have a lot
Speaker 2: of personality, you have a lot of intrigue. I think
Speaker 2: they would they would be interested. I think if we
Speaker 2: send up just like Joe Biden, you know, then we're fucked.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: They're going to be like we're going to kill these people.
Speaker 2: There's nothing, there's nothing worth preserving here. There's no art,
Speaker 2: there's no nothing, there's no human experience.
Speaker 1: See. I try to stay away from conspiracy theories because
Speaker 1: they just get so even like not right wing, like
Speaker 1: even crazier than right wing people like Qumanon and them.
Speaker 1: But do you think the Illuminati is real?
Speaker 2: I don't know if the I mean, yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: think that like Beyonce is in it. But I do
Speaker 2: think that there are groups of people that have immense
Speaker 2: wealth and power that kind of control everything behind the
Speaker 2: eye of the media. I think there's a lot that
Speaker 2: we don't know.
Speaker 1: But that's like so crazy to think, like we might
Speaker 1: know people that are in it. Really, there has to
Speaker 1: be like a trans chapter of the Illuminati.
Speaker 2: I love that. I mean, we've been making a lot
Speaker 2: of progress recently. You know, there's a lot more trans
Speaker 2: people in the media, so you have to believe that,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Call me Hayden Wi. Thanks for joining me, Thanks for
Speaker 1: having me.
Speaker 2: This was so much fun.
Speaker 1: Tell people about where you want them to find you.
Speaker 2: You can follow me on Instagram at unders or Hayden
Speaker 2: Underscore Johnson. If you live in La or even New
Speaker 2: York or another place. I do a show with my
Speaker 2: friend Nori Reid called transa Girls, and we're going around
Speaker 2: all the time. We're going to do another show in
Speaker 2: LA coming up soon, so be on the lookout for that.
Speaker 1: That show is one of the funnyst shows I've done ever.
Speaker 2: You were the best on it. I'm so glad that
Speaker 2: you got to be on our first one.
Speaker 1: Oh that was your first one. It was so cool
Speaker 1: because there was so many trans people in the audience
Speaker 1: and it was just really, really great. And my audience
Speaker 1: loves Nori and I hope that they check you guys out.
Speaker 2: It's very fun and you don't even have to be
Speaker 2: trans to get in. You just have to be transfer
Speaker 2: us to acknowledge you.
Speaker 1: Wait, so you're telling me I did all this for nothing.
Speaker 1: I could have just waltzed in.
Speaker 2: You got booked. You know that's different.
Speaker 1: But I thought that I had to be trans to
Speaker 1: be honest. Do you know how much money I've spent
Speaker 1: so I could get that spot?
Speaker 2: Listen? I love you. You're so great. This is so much fun.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you so much to Hayden Johnson. Check
Speaker 1: out everything she does. She's phenomenal. So so funny. Yeah, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm hard at work working on all kinds of fun
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Speaker 1: I love you all, both living and dead. But if
Speaker 1: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me
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Speaker 1: My senior producer is the Startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer
Speaker 1: is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and
Speaker 1: sound designed by the Eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker
Speaker 1: is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the
Speaker 1: hair raising Hannah Kyle Crichton. My theme music is by
Speaker 1: the spine Chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the spooky
Speaker 1: Vanessa Lilac, photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen, Executive produce
Speaker 1: by the chilling Karen Kilgareth, the spookky Georgia Hard Start,
Speaker 1: and the frightening Danielle Kramer,