1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,708 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,788 --> 00:00:08,388 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:08,868 --> 00:00:10,388 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is Good Morning Football. 4 00:00:10,428 --> 00:00:12,028 Speaker 3: It's our show that we know and we love and 5 00:00:12,068 --> 00:00:12,828 Speaker 3: we love that you're here. 6 00:00:12,868 --> 00:00:14,828 Speaker 2: We're live in LA and New York. I'm Jimmy or 7 00:00:14,828 --> 00:00:15,068 Speaker 2: at all. 8 00:00:15,148 --> 00:00:15,748 Speaker 4: This is off. 9 00:00:15,628 --> 00:00:19,748 Speaker 3: Barbaja, BM Miller, Peter Striker, Kyle Brandt, and Manteo at 10 00:00:19,748 --> 00:00:25,188 Speaker 3: the table today. Here we go breaking news at the 11 00:00:25,188 --> 00:00:27,748 Speaker 3: table on GMFB. And of course we have Ron Rivere 12 00:00:27,788 --> 00:00:30,788 Speaker 3: here who at times you show up, things happen moments 13 00:00:30,828 --> 00:00:31,988 Speaker 3: before you're supposed. 14 00:00:31,708 --> 00:00:32,348 Speaker 4: To be on the show. 15 00:00:32,628 --> 00:00:35,028 Speaker 3: And now we've got to talk about the Chicago Bears 16 00:00:35,028 --> 00:00:38,188 Speaker 3: and they've moved on from their offensive coordinator in Shane Waldron. 17 00:00:38,428 --> 00:00:40,108 Speaker 3: Is this a move that you expected? And why do 18 00:00:40,148 --> 00:00:40,588 Speaker 3: you think they did? 19 00:00:41,068 --> 00:00:42,988 Speaker 5: You know it was something that was kind of expected. 20 00:00:43,148 --> 00:00:45,108 Speaker 5: The big reason, more so anything else, is they've got 21 00:00:45,148 --> 00:00:46,788 Speaker 5: to do something to liven it up. If you don't 22 00:00:46,788 --> 00:00:49,188 Speaker 5: do anything at this point in time, players begin to wonder, 23 00:00:49,228 --> 00:00:51,748 Speaker 5: do you care about us? You know, we need to 24 00:00:51,788 --> 00:00:53,988 Speaker 5: do something, Do something that's going to be stark, something 25 00:00:54,028 --> 00:00:55,028 Speaker 5: that's going to get our attention. 26 00:00:55,228 --> 00:00:55,988 Speaker 4: And let's go forward. 27 00:00:55,988 --> 00:00:58,068 Speaker 5: Look at what happened at New Orleans this past weekend 28 00:00:58,428 --> 00:01:00,588 Speaker 5: had a lot of energy so on fgret, which one 29 00:01:00,628 --> 00:01:02,388 Speaker 5: you guys mentioned the fact that this could be a 30 00:01:02,468 --> 00:01:05,868 Speaker 5: spark that gets them going. That's important, it really is. 31 00:01:06,108 --> 00:01:08,388 Speaker 5: And it's not just you know who you hire, but 32 00:01:08,668 --> 00:01:11,668 Speaker 5: what do they do once you hire them? Okay, we 33 00:01:11,708 --> 00:01:14,788 Speaker 5: went through this with the number one pick we drafted 34 00:01:14,908 --> 00:01:20,868 Speaker 5: Cam Newton. Okay, Rob Saidzinski, Okay, Mike Shula, Scott Turner. 35 00:01:21,108 --> 00:01:23,828 Speaker 5: They go down to Auburn, they meet with Auburn, they 36 00:01:23,868 --> 00:01:26,428 Speaker 5: talk about what they did, how they did it, and 37 00:01:26,428 --> 00:01:28,428 Speaker 5: then they took what they believe were the best things 38 00:01:28,468 --> 00:01:32,268 Speaker 5: from that that Cam Newton did and integrated them into our. 39 00:01:32,148 --> 00:01:33,948 Speaker 4: Offense, the offense that we were going to use. 40 00:01:33,988 --> 00:01:36,388 Speaker 5: So we're taking guys and we weren't putting them in 41 00:01:36,428 --> 00:01:37,788 Speaker 5: something that was new and different. 42 00:01:38,148 --> 00:01:40,868 Speaker 4: We were putting him in something that was familiar, and then. 43 00:01:40,748 --> 00:01:43,428 Speaker 5: We added to it as well, and he adapted very 44 00:01:43,508 --> 00:01:44,108 Speaker 5: very quickly. 45 00:01:44,468 --> 00:01:46,508 Speaker 4: I'm not saying Shane didn't do that. Maybe he needs 46 00:01:46,548 --> 00:01:46,908 Speaker 4: to do that. 47 00:01:46,948 --> 00:01:49,428 Speaker 5: Maybe that was something that you should have done because 48 00:01:49,468 --> 00:01:51,388 Speaker 5: once you get there, now, how are you going to 49 00:01:51,468 --> 00:01:53,388 Speaker 5: handle them? Are you going to try and put somebody 50 00:01:53,748 --> 00:01:56,548 Speaker 5: into a into something he's not comfortable with and. 51 00:01:56,548 --> 00:01:58,788 Speaker 4: Teach them all over again. You know, it's interesting. 52 00:01:58,788 --> 00:02:02,708 Speaker 5: I had a conversation with with Cliff Kingsbury about what 53 00:02:02,788 --> 00:02:05,748 Speaker 5: he did and how they things with Jay, and that's 54 00:02:05,788 --> 00:02:08,268 Speaker 5: exactly what he did. He goes down to LSU, he 55 00:02:08,308 --> 00:02:11,068 Speaker 5: looks at a bunch of their tape, talks to the coaches, 56 00:02:11,348 --> 00:02:13,988 Speaker 5: and he took those things that he did there. 57 00:02:14,188 --> 00:02:15,668 Speaker 4: And integrated into his offense. 58 00:02:15,748 --> 00:02:18,948 Speaker 5: He also took the virtual reality stuff and they used 59 00:02:18,988 --> 00:02:20,908 Speaker 5: that and got it for him as well. And now 60 00:02:20,908 --> 00:02:22,748 Speaker 5: all of a sudden, you've got a young man who's 61 00:02:22,788 --> 00:02:25,188 Speaker 5: growing and developing very very quickly because he's in some 62 00:02:25,228 --> 00:02:27,988 Speaker 5: familiar surroundings, even though it's a new staff that he's 63 00:02:28,028 --> 00:02:28,468 Speaker 5: working with. 64 00:02:29,948 --> 00:02:32,828 Speaker 6: Hey Ron, I look at the situation now. Look, Shane 65 00:02:32,868 --> 00:02:36,388 Speaker 6: Waldron and Thomas Brown were together with the Rams under McVeigh, 66 00:02:36,388 --> 00:02:38,988 Speaker 6: so they have a great relationship. And Thomas Brown was 67 00:02:39,028 --> 00:02:41,868 Speaker 6: one of Shane's hires. He came in with him. Is 68 00:02:41,908 --> 00:02:44,588 Speaker 6: there like I look at last year for example, when 69 00:02:44,708 --> 00:02:47,548 Speaker 6: the Bills and Brandon Bean was the GM but of 70 00:02:47,588 --> 00:02:49,948 Speaker 6: course Sean McDermott had to let go of Ken Dorsey. 71 00:02:50,308 --> 00:02:52,748 Speaker 2: But Joe Brady, who was assistant was elevated and they 72 00:02:52,828 --> 00:02:53,868 Speaker 2: got a kind of a kickstart. 73 00:02:54,108 --> 00:02:56,188 Speaker 6: Is there as a coach, like a survivor's guilt when 74 00:02:56,668 --> 00:02:59,108 Speaker 6: one of the coordinators is fired but the guy he 75 00:02:59,148 --> 00:03:01,708 Speaker 6: brought in now gets the big job. What's the feeling 76 00:03:01,748 --> 00:03:04,228 Speaker 6: in the building amongst the coaches when that goes down? 77 00:03:04,908 --> 00:03:06,588 Speaker 5: Well, you know, it really isn't that much of a 78 00:03:06,628 --> 00:03:10,308 Speaker 5: feeling unless somebody feels somebody undercut somebody, And that's probably 79 00:03:10,308 --> 00:03:12,468 Speaker 5: not what I'm not saying that happen here. What I'm saying, 80 00:03:12,468 --> 00:03:14,708 Speaker 5: more so than anything else, is you have to do 81 00:03:14,788 --> 00:03:18,108 Speaker 5: something to get it kickstarted. Maybe Thomas will look at 82 00:03:18,108 --> 00:03:20,228 Speaker 5: things differently, look at from a different angle. I know 83 00:03:20,388 --> 00:03:22,668 Speaker 5: I did that at one point in my career when 84 00:03:22,708 --> 00:03:26,428 Speaker 5: I was in San Diego. We let the defensive coordinator 85 00:03:26,468 --> 00:03:30,108 Speaker 5: go and they promoted me to defensive coordinator, And first 86 00:03:30,148 --> 00:03:32,108 Speaker 5: thing I did was approached it differently. 87 00:03:32,548 --> 00:03:32,788 Speaker 4: You know. 88 00:03:32,828 --> 00:03:34,548 Speaker 5: We got together and we talked about the things we 89 00:03:34,588 --> 00:03:36,748 Speaker 5: felt our players did best. We talked about things that 90 00:03:36,788 --> 00:03:39,428 Speaker 5: we didn't feel they did very well, and we eliminated 91 00:03:39,428 --> 00:03:43,548 Speaker 5: those things. And we also compacted the playbook. You know, 92 00:03:43,588 --> 00:03:46,028 Speaker 5: we cut out probably two hundred pages and just say 93 00:03:46,068 --> 00:03:47,948 Speaker 5: these are the things we're going to do, and then 94 00:03:47,988 --> 00:03:50,548 Speaker 5: our approach was different because we talked about how we 95 00:03:50,588 --> 00:03:53,468 Speaker 5: want to use players differently. So I think when you 96 00:03:53,548 --> 00:03:56,868 Speaker 5: do something like that, you know, the focus really is 97 00:03:56,908 --> 00:03:58,508 Speaker 5: on how are we going to handle it, how are 98 00:03:58,508 --> 00:04:00,148 Speaker 5: we going to grow, how are we going to do 99 00:04:00,228 --> 00:04:04,748 Speaker 5: things going forward differently? We can't keep doing the same thing, 100 00:04:04,988 --> 00:04:07,708 Speaker 5: because Albert Einstein said, that's insanity if you're expecting something 101 00:04:07,748 --> 00:04:08,308 Speaker 5: different to happen. 102 00:04:08,428 --> 00:04:11,508 Speaker 7: Yeah, Coach, there's something that I want to bring up 103 00:04:11,548 --> 00:04:13,388 Speaker 7: that I'm not sure that most people are really aware 104 00:04:13,428 --> 00:04:15,588 Speaker 7: of right inside the locker room, and you obviously can 105 00:04:15,628 --> 00:04:18,908 Speaker 7: speak to this, the challenge of having a ricket quarterback 106 00:04:19,468 --> 00:04:25,428 Speaker 7: with veteran weapons and the pressure not only on Caleb 107 00:04:25,468 --> 00:04:27,908 Speaker 7: Williams to come in as a number one overall pick right, 108 00:04:27,948 --> 00:04:31,308 Speaker 7: that pressure alone, but now stepping into that huddle and 109 00:04:31,388 --> 00:04:35,988 Speaker 7: having failed no success at all offensively with veterans looking 110 00:04:36,028 --> 00:04:38,468 Speaker 7: back at you, trying to figure out exactly why is 111 00:04:38,468 --> 00:04:40,748 Speaker 7: it that you're struggling. Did they have to make this 112 00:04:40,908 --> 00:04:43,068 Speaker 7: move not only for the lack of production but also 113 00:04:43,108 --> 00:04:44,628 Speaker 7: to try to retain this locker room? 114 00:04:44,708 --> 00:04:46,908 Speaker 5: Yes, I think they did, because again, if you're not 115 00:04:46,948 --> 00:04:49,508 Speaker 5: showing that what you're trying to do is win and 116 00:04:49,548 --> 00:04:52,668 Speaker 5: we'll do whatever it takes to win. You're gonna lose people, 117 00:04:52,708 --> 00:04:54,708 Speaker 5: and this is something you have to be concerned about. 118 00:04:54,868 --> 00:04:56,388 Speaker 5: And you know you brought something of it. 119 00:04:56,588 --> 00:04:57,108 Speaker 4: Very interesting. 120 00:04:57,108 --> 00:04:59,948 Speaker 5: If you take all these tools, all these weapons, and 121 00:04:59,988 --> 00:05:02,388 Speaker 5: you surround the young guy around, did they give them 122 00:05:02,388 --> 00:05:04,868 Speaker 5: too many? I mean, look at the quality of players 123 00:05:04,868 --> 00:05:08,068 Speaker 5: that they've brought in, and can you keep everybody happy? 124 00:05:08,068 --> 00:05:11,388 Speaker 5: Can you spread the ball around enough, you know, to 125 00:05:11,788 --> 00:05:14,228 Speaker 5: keep those guys happy. So again, you could be putting 126 00:05:14,228 --> 00:05:16,788 Speaker 5: pressure on your quarterback without realizing that you've got too 127 00:05:16,788 --> 00:05:19,308 Speaker 5: many weapons. And one thing you got also understands they 128 00:05:19,308 --> 00:05:21,428 Speaker 5: got to protect them better though, because if you bring 129 00:05:21,428 --> 00:05:23,668 Speaker 5: in a quarterback and he's your franchise guy, you've got 130 00:05:23,708 --> 00:05:25,948 Speaker 5: to be able to protect him, and then you got 131 00:05:25,948 --> 00:05:28,468 Speaker 5: to have playmakers around him to get the ball to him. 132 00:05:28,708 --> 00:05:30,548 Speaker 8: Yeah, and they can't protect him right now, coach, I 133 00:05:30,588 --> 00:05:33,068 Speaker 8: mean thirty eight sacks, like second most in the league 134 00:05:33,148 --> 00:05:34,708 Speaker 8: right now, Like the dude just doesn't seem like he 135 00:05:34,748 --> 00:05:37,668 Speaker 8: has an opportunity. But like I guess, you know, at 136 00:05:37,668 --> 00:05:40,268 Speaker 8: the risk of sounding like you know, the cynical dude, 137 00:05:40,308 --> 00:05:43,428 Speaker 8: Like it just feels like you know, sometimes coaches get 138 00:05:43,468 --> 00:05:46,388 Speaker 8: fired and they seem like a scapegoat and it doesn't 139 00:05:46,428 --> 00:05:48,628 Speaker 8: necessarily change it. I've been a part of these changes 140 00:05:48,668 --> 00:05:51,748 Speaker 8: whereas is like you just elevated the homie and say, yo, 141 00:05:51,908 --> 00:05:54,708 Speaker 8: linebacker coach, you're this, or offensive coordinator, and you just 142 00:05:54,708 --> 00:05:57,228 Speaker 8: bring them in and it doesn't change, and it's just like, Okay, 143 00:05:57,228 --> 00:05:59,948 Speaker 8: maybe for the next couple of weeks. Everybody's riding on 144 00:05:59,988 --> 00:06:02,988 Speaker 8: the high that there's a change, but ultimately you're running 145 00:06:02,988 --> 00:06:04,908 Speaker 8: the same offense, you have the same type of thing, 146 00:06:05,228 --> 00:06:07,028 Speaker 8: and you're not doing the same type of teaching. Where 147 00:06:07,028 --> 00:06:09,268 Speaker 8: does the teaching come in to take because there's a 148 00:06:09,348 --> 00:06:11,908 Speaker 8: lot of teaching and correction that needs to happen if 149 00:06:11,948 --> 00:06:15,148 Speaker 8: Caleb Williams is going to live up to the hype 150 00:06:15,268 --> 00:06:17,628 Speaker 8: that came in, you know from the very beginning. 151 00:06:17,708 --> 00:06:19,828 Speaker 5: Well again, as one of the things I talked about 152 00:06:19,828 --> 00:06:22,628 Speaker 5: earlier was are they doing too much? Are they asking 153 00:06:22,708 --> 00:06:25,268 Speaker 5: him to do too much? It's interesting because you look 154 00:06:25,268 --> 00:06:28,148 Speaker 5: at you look at what's happening and with the commanders 155 00:06:28,308 --> 00:06:30,668 Speaker 5: and how they've handled that, and that's been spectacular early 156 00:06:30,748 --> 00:06:33,228 Speaker 5: has and it's very simple though when you look at 157 00:06:33,268 --> 00:06:35,908 Speaker 5: it and break it down on tape. So are they 158 00:06:35,908 --> 00:06:38,948 Speaker 5: doing the same in Chicago? Is it too complicated? Is 159 00:06:39,068 --> 00:06:41,068 Speaker 5: eliminating some of the things and saying, listen, you know, 160 00:06:41,148 --> 00:06:44,228 Speaker 5: let's tighten up the call sheet and let's give him 161 00:06:44,228 --> 00:06:46,228 Speaker 5: a limited number of things, and have asked him to 162 00:06:46,268 --> 00:06:47,868 Speaker 5: do these things very very well. 163 00:06:48,428 --> 00:06:50,228 Speaker 8: Okay, Well let me ask this then, because when I'm 164 00:06:50,228 --> 00:06:52,708 Speaker 8: watching Caleb, the one thing I always noticed, it just 165 00:06:52,788 --> 00:06:55,228 Speaker 8: feels like he's always trying to make things happen. When 166 00:06:55,388 --> 00:06:58,028 Speaker 8: you've got dogs around you, you got a bunch of 167 00:06:58,108 --> 00:07:01,108 Speaker 8: star players around you, and yet he's he's dancing and 168 00:07:01,148 --> 00:07:03,228 Speaker 8: wiggling around and just trying to make things happen. Like, 169 00:07:03,268 --> 00:07:05,428 Speaker 8: where does that come from with the quarterback? Like when 170 00:07:05,468 --> 00:07:06,668 Speaker 8: he's in that type of situation. 171 00:07:06,748 --> 00:07:08,708 Speaker 5: Well, one of the things that you know, we know 172 00:07:08,788 --> 00:07:11,388 Speaker 5: to talking about young quarterbacks because again believing when we 173 00:07:11,388 --> 00:07:13,588 Speaker 5: were in Washington, we were looking for him. You watch 174 00:07:13,628 --> 00:07:15,148 Speaker 5: a lot of these guys and one of the things 175 00:07:15,148 --> 00:07:16,988 Speaker 5: that you sit there and you say, man, you know, 176 00:07:17,148 --> 00:07:20,628 Speaker 5: he extends plays, he starts moving around too soon. 177 00:07:20,708 --> 00:07:21,868 Speaker 4: He's not letting him develop. 178 00:07:21,908 --> 00:07:24,348 Speaker 5: If he hold himself in the pocket, just one more tick, 179 00:07:24,668 --> 00:07:26,988 Speaker 5: that guy's going to come open. So again, part of 180 00:07:26,988 --> 00:07:28,948 Speaker 5: it is as you said, is the development, the growth 181 00:07:29,028 --> 00:07:32,148 Speaker 5: of learning, the understanding, just so that the offense as 182 00:07:32,148 --> 00:07:35,628 Speaker 5: it goes and it's out there working, are these progressions 183 00:07:35,668 --> 00:07:37,468 Speaker 5: being able to be completed? 184 00:07:37,748 --> 00:07:40,148 Speaker 4: Are the routes being run completely? 185 00:07:40,708 --> 00:07:43,748 Speaker 5: So now as I'm sitting there and reading through my progressions, 186 00:07:43,748 --> 00:07:45,268 Speaker 5: I'm looking at the defense, I can. 187 00:07:45,148 --> 00:07:46,988 Speaker 4: Say, hey, I can wait for the spin dick. 188 00:07:47,028 --> 00:07:48,388 Speaker 5: I can wait for the guy to curl up in 189 00:07:48,388 --> 00:07:50,668 Speaker 5: front of the linebacker so he drives down and then 190 00:07:50,668 --> 00:07:52,428 Speaker 5: all of a sudden you've got to dig the in 191 00:07:52,588 --> 00:07:53,308 Speaker 5: route coming. 192 00:07:53,068 --> 00:07:53,588 Speaker 4: In behind it. 193 00:07:53,668 --> 00:07:56,268 Speaker 5: So these are all these kinds of things that you've 194 00:07:56,268 --> 00:07:58,028 Speaker 5: got to ask and you've got to go through. Now 195 00:07:58,068 --> 00:08:00,428 Speaker 5: as the new coordinator, you've got to be able to 196 00:08:00,428 --> 00:08:03,308 Speaker 5: have broken down this tape, understand what your quarterback needs, 197 00:08:03,428 --> 00:08:05,028 Speaker 5: and then go out and it corrected. 198 00:08:05,788 --> 00:08:07,748 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean you're all over this move. 199 00:08:07,788 --> 00:08:11,388 Speaker 1: To me, the Bears season is deeply secondary to some 200 00:08:11,468 --> 00:08:13,588 Speaker 1: other things. Maybe they finished seven to ten eight, now, 201 00:08:13,588 --> 00:08:16,388 Speaker 1: who the hell knows. The offense is broken, the team 202 00:08:16,468 --> 00:08:19,508 Speaker 1: is broken. This is all about making sure the quarterback 203 00:08:19,668 --> 00:08:22,748 Speaker 1: is not broken. Caleb needs to be protected and insulated 204 00:08:22,908 --> 00:08:25,188 Speaker 1: and never mind passed block And of course yes, I'm 205 00:08:25,228 --> 00:08:27,708 Speaker 1: talking about here. And if you saw this week, Bears fans, 206 00:08:27,788 --> 00:08:30,708 Speaker 1: especially Daniel Jeremiah, who does this thing for a living, 207 00:08:30,988 --> 00:08:33,148 Speaker 1: was watching all the Caleb tape and he's like. 208 00:08:33,628 --> 00:08:35,988 Speaker 9: He just looks super rushed, super. 209 00:08:35,868 --> 00:08:38,988 Speaker 1: Uncomfortable, as if it's being pounded into his head. 210 00:08:39,068 --> 00:08:39,828 Speaker 9: Don't mess up. 211 00:08:39,988 --> 00:08:42,588 Speaker 1: Okay, that is why you make a coaching change. We 212 00:08:42,668 --> 00:08:44,988 Speaker 1: need a fresh voice, we need a fresh angle. And 213 00:08:45,068 --> 00:08:47,788 Speaker 1: if the good news is for Thomas Brown, the bar 214 00:08:47,908 --> 00:08:51,148 Speaker 1: is so low, so low. No one is expecting you 215 00:08:51,228 --> 00:08:52,508 Speaker 1: to beat the Packers this week. 216 00:08:52,668 --> 00:08:54,508 Speaker 2: It would be nice if you could just get. 217 00:08:54,308 --> 00:08:57,148 Speaker 1: Sacked three or four times, and that's a massive improvement. 218 00:08:57,388 --> 00:09:00,188 Speaker 1: It would be nice if you could score a touchdown. 219 00:09:00,508 --> 00:09:04,428 Speaker 1: They have over twenty plus drives without a touchdown, go 220 00:09:04,708 --> 00:09:08,468 Speaker 1: way back to that Washington game. So simple, baby steps. 221 00:09:08,508 --> 00:09:10,108 Speaker 1: I think Bears fans have to take a step back 222 00:09:10,108 --> 00:09:12,708 Speaker 1: from thinking we're gonna make the playoffs, maybe we can 223 00:09:12,748 --> 00:09:16,028 Speaker 1: make a run at the North, to saying, let's just 224 00:09:16,148 --> 00:09:19,668 Speaker 1: get this guy standing upright running the offense. Thomas Brown's 225 00:09:19,668 --> 00:09:21,988 Speaker 1: background is I mean, it's interesting. 226 00:09:22,108 --> 00:09:24,228 Speaker 9: He's a really good college player. He was with McVeigh 227 00:09:24,268 --> 00:09:24,748 Speaker 9: for a while. 228 00:09:25,228 --> 00:09:27,348 Speaker 1: I don't think it's some sort of Gangbusters thing where 229 00:09:27,348 --> 00:09:28,868 Speaker 1: now they're gonna score thirty points a game. 230 00:09:28,908 --> 00:09:31,348 Speaker 9: I'm not blown away by the higher I think it's somebody. 231 00:09:31,788 --> 00:09:34,028 Speaker 1: But if they can just keep him upright and keep 232 00:09:34,108 --> 00:09:36,708 Speaker 1: him in a sane place for at least one game, 233 00:09:36,988 --> 00:09:39,228 Speaker 1: at least this improvement, I find myself angry about it. 234 00:09:39,268 --> 00:09:41,428 Speaker 6: This scot I go back, I go back to the draft, 235 00:09:41,468 --> 00:09:44,508 Speaker 6: and they drafted a quarterback with the first overall pick 236 00:09:44,668 --> 00:09:46,708 Speaker 6: and a wide receiver with the ninth overall pick, and 237 00:09:46,748 --> 00:09:48,868 Speaker 6: they had DJ Moore and Keenan Allen. I don't want 238 00:09:48,868 --> 00:09:51,108 Speaker 6: to hear about. You know, the offensive line isn't holding down. 239 00:09:51,388 --> 00:09:53,188 Speaker 6: There is no excuse for this team not to be 240 00:09:53,188 --> 00:09:55,628 Speaker 6: an offensive Juggernut. I know he's a young quarterback. I 241 00:09:55,628 --> 00:09:57,628 Speaker 6: know that it has to be better than what it 242 00:09:57,628 --> 00:09:59,548 Speaker 6: what's been. And I think even Shane would say this 243 00:09:59,588 --> 00:10:01,708 Speaker 6: is as bad as it could have been, even though 244 00:10:01,748 --> 00:10:03,548 Speaker 6: he had high expectations coming into this thing. 245 00:10:04,388 --> 00:10:06,788 Speaker 5: I think everybody had high expectations, to be honest about it, 246 00:10:06,828 --> 00:10:08,828 Speaker 5: But the truth of the matter is you also have. 247 00:10:08,828 --> 00:10:10,748 Speaker 4: To look at what are the play calls? 248 00:10:11,348 --> 00:10:13,108 Speaker 5: Is everything designed for him to get the ball out 249 00:10:13,108 --> 00:10:15,828 Speaker 5: of his hands quickly? Are these routes being run in 250 00:10:15,908 --> 00:10:18,588 Speaker 5: situations where now he can make a quick read and 251 00:10:18,588 --> 00:10:21,268 Speaker 5: deliver the ball. You know, you go back and you 252 00:10:21,388 --> 00:10:23,508 Speaker 5: chart this, and that's what I was doing for quite some. 253 00:10:23,508 --> 00:10:24,228 Speaker 4: Time this season. 254 00:10:24,548 --> 00:10:28,548 Speaker 5: I've charted the time to catch to release and Jaden 255 00:10:28,668 --> 00:10:31,028 Speaker 5: Daniels has the best He. 256 00:10:30,908 --> 00:10:33,148 Speaker 4: Gets the ball and he's getting the ball out of 257 00:10:33,228 --> 00:10:33,628 Speaker 4: his hands. 258 00:10:33,668 --> 00:10:37,108 Speaker 5: Why because Cliff Kingsbury's calling the plays that way. So 259 00:10:37,188 --> 00:10:38,868 Speaker 5: now you've got to take a look at what are 260 00:10:38,908 --> 00:10:41,308 Speaker 5: they doing. Are they trying to get the ball downfield 261 00:10:41,348 --> 00:10:44,268 Speaker 5: in a hurry or are they trying to systematically grind 262 00:10:44,308 --> 00:10:47,708 Speaker 5: it out quick throws let your receivers make plays. When 263 00:10:47,708 --> 00:10:49,948 Speaker 5: you have these type of guys we've talked about, you 264 00:10:50,028 --> 00:10:53,788 Speaker 5: talk about DJ Moore and Keenan Allen and rom and 265 00:10:53,828 --> 00:10:55,948 Speaker 5: dooms Day. These are guys that you get the ball 266 00:10:56,028 --> 00:10:58,668 Speaker 5: to them in space and allow them to work. I mean, 267 00:10:58,748 --> 00:11:00,628 Speaker 5: are these the type of things that you're doing with 268 00:11:00,748 --> 00:11:03,068 Speaker 5: your offense or are you asking the quarterback to go 269 00:11:03,108 --> 00:11:05,988 Speaker 5: through a series of progressions and get the ball downfield 270 00:11:06,268 --> 00:11:08,668 Speaker 5: and at the same time, you've got this pass rush 271 00:11:08,668 --> 00:11:11,628 Speaker 5: that's getting into your lap. So again, are we doing 272 00:11:11,628 --> 00:11:13,268 Speaker 5: what we need to do to give our guy a 273 00:11:13,348 --> 00:11:14,388 Speaker 5: chance to be successful. 274 00:11:19,428 --> 00:11:33,588 Speaker 10: Hoot ballot ball all right, if you're online, there are 275 00:11:33,588 --> 00:11:35,308 Speaker 10: millions of people who are just waiting for you to 276 00:11:35,308 --> 00:11:36,268 Speaker 10: be wrong about things. 277 00:11:36,308 --> 00:11:38,748 Speaker 1: There's armies of people to point that out. And that 278 00:11:38,788 --> 00:11:41,868 Speaker 1: brings us to our playoff predictions that we did way 279 00:11:41,868 --> 00:11:44,268 Speaker 1: back in September before kickoff. All of us on the 280 00:11:44,268 --> 00:11:47,228 Speaker 1: show predicted all of the playoff teams, the division winners, 281 00:11:47,228 --> 00:11:48,868 Speaker 1: on and on and on, and we thought it'd be 282 00:11:48,868 --> 00:11:51,468 Speaker 1: fun right now in November fourteenth, to see how are 283 00:11:51,468 --> 00:11:53,268 Speaker 1: we doing. What are some good ones? What are some 284 00:11:53,388 --> 00:11:55,988 Speaker 1: bad ones? So we have four different categories. It's the 285 00:11:56,028 --> 00:11:58,068 Speaker 1: ones that the pick that we're proud of that we 286 00:11:58,108 --> 00:12:00,548 Speaker 1: made before the season, the pick that we're really annoyed by, 287 00:12:00,868 --> 00:12:02,708 Speaker 1: the one we wish you could change, and maybe the 288 00:12:02,708 --> 00:12:04,388 Speaker 1: one that doesn't look good but we want to double 289 00:12:04,548 --> 00:12:06,988 Speaker 1: down on. Let's go around the horn. Peter, you are 290 00:12:07,028 --> 00:12:09,468 Speaker 1: known for making picks. Take us through those categories for 291 00:12:09,508 --> 00:12:10,028 Speaker 1: your own picks. 292 00:12:10,068 --> 00:12:11,588 Speaker 2: I have great. 293 00:12:11,348 --> 00:12:14,348 Speaker 6: Success over the years of picking the right super Bowl 294 00:12:14,388 --> 00:12:17,308 Speaker 6: matchup and the Super Bowl winner, and I stick by 295 00:12:17,348 --> 00:12:19,828 Speaker 6: what I had. But if I can tell you what 296 00:12:19,868 --> 00:12:21,548 Speaker 6: I'm most proud of this season. 297 00:12:21,668 --> 00:12:23,348 Speaker 2: I got a lot of slack from Dallats. 298 00:12:23,348 --> 00:12:25,588 Speaker 6: I didn't have the Cowboys in the playoffs for this season, 299 00:12:25,628 --> 00:12:27,428 Speaker 6: and I said, I don't like a coach in the 300 00:12:27,428 --> 00:12:28,628 Speaker 6: final year of his contract. 301 00:12:28,868 --> 00:12:29,308 Speaker 2: I don't like it. 302 00:12:29,348 --> 00:12:31,908 Speaker 6: They didn't sign any big free agent picks. The fact 303 00:12:31,948 --> 00:12:34,908 Speaker 6: that I didn't have the Cowboys, You're not going to 304 00:12:34,988 --> 00:12:36,988 Speaker 6: get an applause for that. No one's gonna say, hey, look, 305 00:12:36,988 --> 00:12:38,468 Speaker 6: you did a good job. You didn't pick them as well. 306 00:12:38,548 --> 00:12:40,868 Speaker 6: But everyone seemed to have. Everyone seemed to think that 307 00:12:40,908 --> 00:12:43,428 Speaker 6: the Cowboys they went so far last year. Dak got 308 00:12:43,428 --> 00:12:45,388 Speaker 6: the big deal, CD got the big deal. So I'm 309 00:12:45,388 --> 00:12:47,628 Speaker 6: gonna say I saw this coming. I didn't like the 310 00:12:47,748 --> 00:12:50,028 Speaker 6: vibes in August, and the vibes have been off, and 311 00:12:50,068 --> 00:12:51,868 Speaker 6: now you've got Cooper Russian Trey Lance, and I don't 312 00:12:51,868 --> 00:12:53,028 Speaker 6: see them turning it around. 313 00:12:53,068 --> 00:12:55,068 Speaker 2: So that's the one. I'm I'm proud of stuff. 314 00:12:55,108 --> 00:12:56,308 Speaker 9: What annoys you that you did? 315 00:12:56,428 --> 00:12:58,028 Speaker 6: Let do two seconds on this? 316 00:12:58,108 --> 00:12:58,428 Speaker 11: Okay? 317 00:12:58,628 --> 00:13:01,028 Speaker 6: There is a clip that Freezing Cold Takes will post 318 00:13:01,148 --> 00:13:03,788 Speaker 6: every single Sunday when the Jets loose. There is a 319 00:13:03,828 --> 00:13:06,348 Speaker 6: clip that I've been sent a million times this season. 320 00:13:06,428 --> 00:13:08,988 Speaker 6: The clip is of me saying the Jets are gonna 321 00:13:08,988 --> 00:13:11,148 Speaker 6: be the number one seed in the AFC, and Aaron 322 00:13:11,188 --> 00:13:13,548 Speaker 6: Rodgers is going to be the most valuable player in 323 00:13:13,588 --> 00:13:13,948 Speaker 6: the league. 324 00:13:14,108 --> 00:13:16,628 Speaker 2: I am annoyed by this pick. I am annoyed that 325 00:13:16,708 --> 00:13:17,828 Speaker 2: I was so in on the. 326 00:13:17,868 --> 00:13:20,188 Speaker 6: Jets, and I feel let down because I, with my 327 00:13:20,188 --> 00:13:22,508 Speaker 6: own two eyes saw it. I was there in August, 328 00:13:22,748 --> 00:13:24,668 Speaker 6: I was there at the preseason. 329 00:13:24,268 --> 00:13:26,348 Speaker 2: And I thought this team was really good. 330 00:13:26,828 --> 00:13:27,268 Speaker 4: They're not. 331 00:13:28,268 --> 00:13:31,428 Speaker 2: They're terrible in their losses. This one was embarrassing. 332 00:13:31,508 --> 00:13:33,308 Speaker 6: They've lost games where they lose by a point on 333 00:13:33,348 --> 00:13:36,228 Speaker 6: bad field goal kicking, in terrible penalties, and then they've 334 00:13:36,268 --> 00:13:38,708 Speaker 6: lost games like this where they're just blown out and embarrassed, 335 00:13:38,748 --> 00:13:41,148 Speaker 6: like against San Francisco and against Arizona. 336 00:13:41,348 --> 00:13:43,788 Speaker 2: I am mortified. And yet if I can get. 337 00:13:43,628 --> 00:13:45,308 Speaker 6: The camera to come back to me one more time, 338 00:13:45,348 --> 00:13:46,588 Speaker 6: I would like to say something. 339 00:13:47,468 --> 00:13:51,268 Speaker 2: The stakes of this are not that high. Like I said, 340 00:13:51,268 --> 00:13:53,388 Speaker 2: the Jets are gonna be really good, they're not. 341 00:13:53,668 --> 00:13:54,068 Speaker 4: Okay. 342 00:13:54,148 --> 00:13:55,908 Speaker 2: We had an election last. 343 00:13:55,748 --> 00:13:58,468 Speaker 6: Week and everyone said it's gonna be a coin flip, 344 00:13:58,628 --> 00:14:01,108 Speaker 6: and it's gonna be and it was not a coin flip. 345 00:14:01,148 --> 00:14:03,228 Speaker 6: And yet I don't see anyone wearing it like I 346 00:14:03,268 --> 00:14:05,148 Speaker 6: have to wear it. On TV for a week and 347 00:14:05,228 --> 00:14:06,348 Speaker 6: a season afterwards. 348 00:14:06,628 --> 00:14:08,988 Speaker 12: Where why am I the one I have to come 349 00:14:08,988 --> 00:14:10,668 Speaker 12: out every day on Twitter and be like. 350 00:14:10,628 --> 00:14:12,548 Speaker 2: I'm sorry about the Jets, Like I was wrong. 351 00:14:12,828 --> 00:14:15,268 Speaker 12: You had people being paid a lot more than me 352 00:14:15,708 --> 00:14:19,068 Speaker 12: on bigger networks in the NFL network saying I think 353 00:14:19,068 --> 00:14:21,108 Speaker 12: it's gonna go this way, and there on the next day, 354 00:14:21,148 --> 00:14:22,828 Speaker 12: like well, let's move right along with the news. 355 00:14:22,868 --> 00:14:24,948 Speaker 2: No, I am wearing it right. 356 00:14:24,828 --> 00:14:27,388 Speaker 12: Now, and I feel like I am unfairly wearing it 357 00:14:27,388 --> 00:14:28,708 Speaker 12: all right onto the next day. 358 00:14:28,748 --> 00:14:31,228 Speaker 1: If those posters were going around every two seconds touting 359 00:14:31,268 --> 00:14:32,468 Speaker 1: their prediction record. 360 00:14:32,228 --> 00:14:34,188 Speaker 2: No doubt they may have a little bit too much 361 00:14:34,228 --> 00:14:34,508 Speaker 2: on it. 362 00:14:34,548 --> 00:14:37,228 Speaker 6: Okay, but I am saying this the thing I wish 363 00:14:37,308 --> 00:14:37,988 Speaker 6: I could change. 364 00:14:37,988 --> 00:14:39,708 Speaker 2: I'll be quick with these. I wish I could have 365 00:14:39,748 --> 00:14:40,708 Speaker 2: put the Steelers in there. 366 00:14:40,748 --> 00:14:43,188 Speaker 6: I really like watching this brand of football and their 367 00:14:43,228 --> 00:14:45,548 Speaker 6: defense has always been good and they got better at quarterback. 368 00:14:45,828 --> 00:14:48,108 Speaker 6: I should have had the Steelers in there at some point. 369 00:14:48,188 --> 00:14:50,628 Speaker 6: I regret not doing that. They will be a playoff team. 370 00:14:50,988 --> 00:14:52,228 Speaker 2: And lastly, something. 371 00:14:52,108 --> 00:14:54,508 Speaker 6: I want to double down on, I would like to 372 00:14:54,508 --> 00:14:56,708 Speaker 6: toss to my Super Bowl prediction, not the Chiefs winning it, 373 00:14:56,708 --> 00:14:59,628 Speaker 6: because everyone can do that, but I still like my 374 00:14:59,868 --> 00:15:01,868 Speaker 6: NFC pick and how they're gonna get there. 375 00:15:01,908 --> 00:15:02,748 Speaker 2: It still adds up. 376 00:15:02,868 --> 00:15:05,148 Speaker 6: Chris our producer, Can we toss to the clip from 377 00:15:05,188 --> 00:15:08,988 Speaker 6: September my Super Bowl prediction out of the NFC, I 378 00:15:09,028 --> 00:15:11,948 Speaker 6: have successfully picked the last three Super Bowl champions with 379 00:15:12,028 --> 00:15:15,348 Speaker 6: pinpoint precision and just enough arrogance where there are a 380 00:15:15,348 --> 00:15:17,308 Speaker 6: lot of people who just root against me. The NFC 381 00:15:17,388 --> 00:15:21,908 Speaker 6: will be represented by Jordan Love, Matt Lafleur, and. 382 00:15:21,868 --> 00:15:24,588 Speaker 2: The Green Bay Packers. I'm gonna go one step further 383 00:15:24,628 --> 00:15:25,508 Speaker 2: here on this prediction. 384 00:15:25,828 --> 00:15:26,668 Speaker 4: Put this in print. 385 00:15:26,828 --> 00:15:28,348 Speaker 9: They're going into a wildcard team. 386 00:15:29,108 --> 00:15:32,588 Speaker 6: I have them as a wildcard team getting hot and 387 00:15:32,628 --> 00:15:33,948 Speaker 6: being the team that comes running. 388 00:15:34,148 --> 00:15:35,148 Speaker 2: So the Lions will. 389 00:15:35,028 --> 00:15:37,308 Speaker 6: Be the one seed as what's going that way, But 390 00:15:37,388 --> 00:15:40,348 Speaker 6: I still am doubling down on the Packers off their 391 00:15:40,348 --> 00:15:42,868 Speaker 6: by going on a run starting today, and they are 392 00:15:42,868 --> 00:15:44,548 Speaker 6: going to be a team that's going to be representing 393 00:15:44,548 --> 00:15:46,588 Speaker 6: the NFC in New Orleans at the Super Bowl. 394 00:15:46,628 --> 00:15:48,388 Speaker 4: All right, Peter here uparkbar All right. 395 00:15:48,308 --> 00:15:50,468 Speaker 8: So I'm gonna make this quick. So the preseason playoff 396 00:15:50,508 --> 00:15:53,028 Speaker 8: pick that I am most proud of has to be 397 00:15:53,228 --> 00:15:56,628 Speaker 8: the Los Angeles Chargers. Especially you think about the season 398 00:15:56,628 --> 00:15:57,948 Speaker 8: that they had the previous year. 399 00:15:58,468 --> 00:15:59,988 Speaker 2: It is what we thought it was going to be. 400 00:16:00,108 --> 00:16:02,948 Speaker 8: Jim Harper was going to make an immediate impact. He's 401 00:16:02,948 --> 00:16:05,868 Speaker 8: got his young wide receive you see catching the ball there, 402 00:16:06,108 --> 00:16:08,108 Speaker 8: who a lot of people is giving up on. 403 00:16:08,268 --> 00:16:08,988 Speaker 2: He's turned them. 404 00:16:08,828 --> 00:16:09,428 Speaker 9: Into a star. 405 00:16:09,628 --> 00:16:13,468 Speaker 8: So I'm okay with the Chargers right now where they are. 406 00:16:13,588 --> 00:16:15,588 Speaker 8: I think they're going to be a strong wildcard position. 407 00:16:15,948 --> 00:16:18,948 Speaker 8: Now the pick that I am most annoyed by, and 408 00:16:18,988 --> 00:16:21,348 Speaker 8: this hurts me to say this, it's the New York Jets. 409 00:16:21,388 --> 00:16:24,108 Speaker 8: I'm right there with you, Peter. I thought that Aaron 410 00:16:24,228 --> 00:16:27,628 Speaker 8: Rodgers was going to be the savior. Like all is unfortunate, 411 00:16:27,948 --> 00:16:31,268 Speaker 8: he tours Achilles. Look, I am not hating on Aaron Rodgers. 412 00:16:31,348 --> 00:16:35,188 Speaker 8: What he's accomplished in his career has been outstanding. But 413 00:16:35,308 --> 00:16:37,988 Speaker 8: this is about to come out of my mouth. We 414 00:16:38,068 --> 00:16:40,948 Speaker 8: saw this happen when Kobe Bryant when he got older, 415 00:16:41,308 --> 00:16:43,148 Speaker 8: and all of a sudden, it's like you're playing at 416 00:16:43,188 --> 00:16:46,268 Speaker 8: a high level and then boom, Father time comes out 417 00:16:46,268 --> 00:16:49,268 Speaker 8: of nowhere and just jumps on you. I think it's 418 00:16:49,268 --> 00:16:52,588 Speaker 8: time to say that Aaron Rodgers might be too old 419 00:16:52,748 --> 00:16:56,308 Speaker 8: to save the Jets. So there's that, all right, So 420 00:16:56,388 --> 00:16:58,428 Speaker 8: that's the one, you know that's out of there. Now 421 00:16:58,468 --> 00:17:01,188 Speaker 8: the pick I wish I could change. I wish I 422 00:17:01,228 --> 00:17:04,668 Speaker 8: could change my pick for the Chicago Bears. I had 423 00:17:04,708 --> 00:17:07,508 Speaker 8: them as a wild card team coming into the playoffs, 424 00:17:07,508 --> 00:17:10,388 Speaker 8: going into the playoffs, and I think I bought into 425 00:17:10,388 --> 00:17:13,228 Speaker 8: the hype. I saw the Caleb Williams stuff and I 426 00:17:13,268 --> 00:17:14,988 Speaker 8: just fell in love with it. And I saw all 427 00:17:14,988 --> 00:17:18,348 Speaker 8: the stuff from training camp and the videos and going yeah, 428 00:17:18,668 --> 00:17:21,988 Speaker 8: but I had reservation. But I didn't trust my instinct 429 00:17:22,188 --> 00:17:25,428 Speaker 8: the reservation. I'm going, yeah, I see some things, and 430 00:17:25,468 --> 00:17:27,588 Speaker 8: I see the talent. I see the magic again. He's 431 00:17:27,588 --> 00:17:31,028 Speaker 8: a talented young quarterback. But was he good enough to 432 00:17:31,188 --> 00:17:35,108 Speaker 8: change it all around in such a quick time. Not 433 00:17:35,148 --> 00:17:37,748 Speaker 8: sure that that's the case. So I wish I could 434 00:17:37,788 --> 00:17:39,308 Speaker 8: go ahead and change that pick. 435 00:17:39,348 --> 00:17:39,588 Speaker 4: Now. 436 00:17:39,748 --> 00:17:41,548 Speaker 8: The pick that I wish I could double down on, 437 00:17:41,788 --> 00:17:44,828 Speaker 8: I'm doubling down on the fact that the Detroit Lions 438 00:17:45,228 --> 00:17:47,268 Speaker 8: will make it all the way to the Super Bowl, 439 00:17:47,388 --> 00:17:50,348 Speaker 8: going up against the Kansas City Chiefs. So I'm doubling down. 440 00:17:50,428 --> 00:17:52,668 Speaker 8: I'm absolutely in love with the way they're playing. I 441 00:17:52,668 --> 00:17:54,468 Speaker 8: think a lot of people thought they last year was 442 00:17:54,548 --> 00:17:58,068 Speaker 8: this magical ride. Everybody's saying golf, golf throughout the city. 443 00:17:58,268 --> 00:17:59,908 Speaker 8: But there's no way they could come back with a 444 00:17:59,988 --> 00:18:03,388 Speaker 8: repeat performance and do it again. Well, guess what, they're back. 445 00:18:05,388 --> 00:18:07,908 Speaker 9: They really are, and so are playoff predictions. We'll look 446 00:18:07,908 --> 00:18:09,188 Speaker 9: at them at the end of the season. How they go. 447 00:18:09,388 --> 00:18:10,028 Speaker 2: I'll try to do. 448 00:18:09,988 --> 00:18:10,828 Speaker 9: This as fast as I can. 449 00:18:11,068 --> 00:18:13,668 Speaker 1: Most proud of it's the Arizona Cardinals, just because of 450 00:18:13,708 --> 00:18:14,668 Speaker 1: the exclusivity of it. 451 00:18:14,668 --> 00:18:16,228 Speaker 9: You guys know that we've talked about that a lot. 452 00:18:16,668 --> 00:18:19,708 Speaker 1: When you do something like that, the comments aren't just 453 00:18:19,908 --> 00:18:21,948 Speaker 1: well that's a strange pick or I don't have that, 454 00:18:21,988 --> 00:18:26,028 Speaker 1: It's like vile, you're an idiot, You're a loser to 455 00:18:26,108 --> 00:18:30,148 Speaker 1: do this. Ye die like the Cardinals in the playoffs 456 00:18:30,508 --> 00:18:33,148 Speaker 1: die like. We may revisit some of those tweets in 457 00:18:33,188 --> 00:18:34,268 Speaker 1: another couple of six weeks. 458 00:18:34,348 --> 00:18:34,988 Speaker 9: Very proud of that. 459 00:18:35,348 --> 00:18:37,108 Speaker 2: Most annoyed by this is very simple. 460 00:18:37,308 --> 00:18:38,948 Speaker 9: This is the Cowboys. I'm annoyed. 461 00:18:39,348 --> 00:18:41,588 Speaker 1: I just figured it's the same business as usual. Every 462 00:18:41,628 --> 00:18:43,748 Speaker 1: single year they're good, every single year they lose in 463 00:18:43,788 --> 00:18:46,228 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and it wasn't. And I'm also very annoyed 464 00:18:46,228 --> 00:18:47,788 Speaker 1: that I didn't have the Eagles in because I thought 465 00:18:47,828 --> 00:18:49,588 Speaker 1: last year they would have this hangover and I didn't 466 00:18:49,628 --> 00:18:51,188 Speaker 1: like at the end of the season, I'm very annoyed 467 00:18:51,188 --> 00:18:53,668 Speaker 1: with myself. Change one, same as you'r a z acbar. 468 00:18:54,028 --> 00:18:56,148 Speaker 1: I will never pick the Hard Knocks team again. I 469 00:18:56,148 --> 00:18:57,948 Speaker 1: had the Bears in the playoffs as a wild card. 470 00:18:58,668 --> 00:19:00,508 Speaker 1: You know, you'd like to put Washington in. You'd like 471 00:19:00,548 --> 00:19:03,708 Speaker 1: to swap out Caleb for Jayden like maybe the Bears do. 472 00:19:04,468 --> 00:19:07,268 Speaker 1: But listen, it's a frustrating pick because of how bad 473 00:19:07,308 --> 00:19:09,228 Speaker 1: they look. But who knows, Maybe they pull a rabbit 474 00:19:09,268 --> 00:19:10,628 Speaker 1: out this week and I just don't expect it. And 475 00:19:10,628 --> 00:19:13,508 Speaker 1: then lastly, my double down. My double down is a 476 00:19:13,508 --> 00:19:15,948 Speaker 1: hand that I'm losing and I don't care. I'm doubling 477 00:19:15,988 --> 00:19:19,988 Speaker 1: down on the La Rams. Let's go thos awful loss 478 00:19:20,028 --> 00:19:22,708 Speaker 1: the other night. They've never looked worse on offense. I 479 00:19:22,708 --> 00:19:25,028 Speaker 1: think six McVeigh took go. It looked really bad. And 480 00:19:25,068 --> 00:19:27,348 Speaker 1: that's exactly why I say no. 481 00:19:27,828 --> 00:19:30,348 Speaker 9: I will not take and jump over the board. I 482 00:19:30,548 --> 00:19:31,708 Speaker 9: jump off board. What am I saying? 483 00:19:31,788 --> 00:19:32,508 Speaker 4: Jump overboard? 484 00:19:32,628 --> 00:19:34,428 Speaker 9: I will stay on the ship. I will stay with 485 00:19:34,468 --> 00:19:34,948 Speaker 9: the Rams. 486 00:19:35,108 --> 00:19:38,348 Speaker 1: McVeigh will find a way double down on them, jaming. 487 00:19:38,148 --> 00:19:39,628 Speaker 3: On So what I like about you, Kyle when you 488 00:19:39,668 --> 00:19:41,548 Speaker 3: do this, You're just putting all the chips in on 489 00:19:41,588 --> 00:19:42,428 Speaker 3: the Rams at this point. 490 00:19:42,428 --> 00:19:43,268 Speaker 2: It's how he feels. 491 00:19:43,068 --> 00:19:44,628 Speaker 3: About the Rams and the Steelers. 492 00:19:44,668 --> 00:19:46,788 Speaker 2: Okay. Thing I'm most proud of. 493 00:19:46,908 --> 00:19:49,068 Speaker 3: Would be all out of the NFC East, which kind 494 00:19:49,068 --> 00:19:51,788 Speaker 3: of funny the categories were going very division specific with 495 00:19:51,828 --> 00:19:53,668 Speaker 3: the categories. I am most proud of the fact that 496 00:19:53,708 --> 00:19:55,748 Speaker 3: I put the Eagles at the top of the NFC 497 00:19:55,908 --> 00:19:59,268 Speaker 3: East despite all this Cowboys come run in. No, none 498 00:19:59,308 --> 00:20:01,468 Speaker 3: of us had the Commanders, but the fact that you know, 499 00:20:01,548 --> 00:20:04,708 Speaker 3: people really got Nick Sirianni Jalen birth sucks use ampip 500 00:20:04,868 --> 00:20:05,708 Speaker 3: pick last season. 501 00:20:06,308 --> 00:20:06,988 Speaker 2: I just think the. 502 00:20:06,948 --> 00:20:08,508 Speaker 3: Team is fun and I put him at the top, 503 00:20:08,548 --> 00:20:11,068 Speaker 3: and I feel great about where they are right now 504 00:20:11,148 --> 00:20:11,628 Speaker 3: because they're not. 505 00:20:12,028 --> 00:20:13,108 Speaker 2: Armicular Night James. 506 00:20:13,108 --> 00:20:14,028 Speaker 3: They don't do it. 507 00:20:14,148 --> 00:20:14,948 Speaker 2: Don't do this to me. 508 00:20:15,068 --> 00:20:17,068 Speaker 3: So I'm very proud of looking through the smoke and 509 00:20:17,108 --> 00:20:17,908 Speaker 3: putting Eagles up top. 510 00:20:17,948 --> 00:20:18,348 Speaker 1: That's miss. 511 00:20:18,908 --> 00:20:21,828 Speaker 3: I also am most annoyed by the Jets. Why are 512 00:20:21,868 --> 00:20:24,188 Speaker 3: the Jets annoying to assault because we all just got 513 00:20:24,268 --> 00:20:26,348 Speaker 3: drunk on the Jets wine, the New York media market 514 00:20:26,348 --> 00:20:28,868 Speaker 3: blah blah blah that I have said the thing that 515 00:20:28,948 --> 00:20:30,868 Speaker 3: I want to change so many times in my house 516 00:20:30,868 --> 00:20:32,948 Speaker 3: to my husband. Honestly, he's like, can you just stop? 517 00:20:32,988 --> 00:20:33,788 Speaker 2: You did what you did. 518 00:20:33,788 --> 00:20:35,548 Speaker 3: You got to make your bed and lay in it 519 00:20:35,628 --> 00:20:38,228 Speaker 3: or wherever the saying is. Because Kyle Brandt teaches us 520 00:20:38,228 --> 00:20:40,228 Speaker 3: a very important lesson on the show is when you 521 00:20:40,348 --> 00:20:43,388 Speaker 3: say something in August, you must live by it. And 522 00:20:43,468 --> 00:20:45,828 Speaker 3: I did this in August. I put a team in 523 00:20:46,108 --> 00:20:48,748 Speaker 3: and then their quarterback got hurt, and then I took 524 00:20:48,828 --> 00:20:51,068 Speaker 3: them out. And I went to Kyle in the hallway 525 00:20:51,068 --> 00:20:52,668 Speaker 3: and I said, do you think it'd be okay if 526 00:20:52,668 --> 00:20:55,028 Speaker 3: I didn't put the Vikings in the playoffs? And he's like, 527 00:20:55,148 --> 00:20:57,588 Speaker 3: do whatever you want. But I know Kyle well enough 528 00:20:57,628 --> 00:21:00,148 Speaker 3: to know that he, in his heart would have said, no, 529 00:21:00,308 --> 00:21:02,308 Speaker 3: you keep them in there. You stand by your cardinals, 530 00:21:02,388 --> 00:21:03,388 Speaker 3: or you stand by your team. 531 00:21:03,548 --> 00:21:04,228 Speaker 2: And I shouldn't. 532 00:21:04,388 --> 00:21:06,868 Speaker 3: I regret not putting the Vikings in because they let 533 00:21:06,868 --> 00:21:08,468 Speaker 3: me do the Galla Horn a couple of weeks ago, 534 00:21:08,628 --> 00:21:10,588 Speaker 3: and I feel sick to my stomach that I didn't 535 00:21:10,628 --> 00:21:12,388 Speaker 3: put him in the NFC playoffs all because J J. 536 00:21:12,508 --> 00:21:16,788 Speaker 3: McCarthy you want, but I know that's not what you meant. 537 00:21:16,868 --> 00:21:17,228 Speaker 11: I know you. 538 00:21:17,548 --> 00:21:20,308 Speaker 3: You stand by what you say. I know you, and 539 00:21:20,468 --> 00:21:22,828 Speaker 3: I also know Peter. I was on a Colts podcast 540 00:21:22,868 --> 00:21:27,428 Speaker 3: recently that's for a different conversation, and I was and 541 00:21:27,468 --> 00:21:29,908 Speaker 3: they asked me on the show on the on the podcast, 542 00:21:30,668 --> 00:21:32,628 Speaker 3: who do you look at on the show, like who 543 00:21:32,708 --> 00:21:34,988 Speaker 3: is the direction they follow? And I always call Peter 544 00:21:35,068 --> 00:21:39,948 Speaker 3: Schrager our editorial north star. Okay, So when I saw 545 00:21:40,068 --> 00:21:42,268 Speaker 3: in that clip that Peter just threw to that he 546 00:21:42,388 --> 00:21:45,468 Speaker 3: had the Packers in the super Bowl, I was like, yes, 547 00:21:45,548 --> 00:21:47,748 Speaker 3: I got something right, because I too had the Packers 548 00:21:47,748 --> 00:21:50,348 Speaker 3: in the super Bowl. However, I also have the Packers 549 00:21:50,348 --> 00:21:52,108 Speaker 3: losing the Super Bowl. So Peter, I just wanted to 550 00:21:52,148 --> 00:21:53,948 Speaker 3: give you flowers because you're my editorial nurse start. 551 00:21:53,988 --> 00:21:54,788 Speaker 2: So anytime Peter. 552 00:21:54,628 --> 00:21:56,948 Speaker 3: Does something around like let's go, I put the Ravens 553 00:21:56,988 --> 00:21:59,028 Speaker 3: as my double down team. I think the Ravens are 554 00:21:59,068 --> 00:22:01,388 Speaker 3: still going to win the super Bowl. I doubled down 555 00:22:01,388 --> 00:22:03,868 Speaker 3: on a Baltimore Ravens. I doubled down on everything that's 556 00:22:03,908 --> 00:22:07,308 Speaker 3: happening them. And I actually feel proud as a show 557 00:22:07,348 --> 00:22:09,428 Speaker 3: and the collection of Super Bowl matchups that we have 558 00:22:09,468 --> 00:22:11,468 Speaker 3: put together. And I think we should all say that 559 00:22:11,548 --> 00:22:13,868 Speaker 3: for this segment, but yeah, that's where it's my take 560 00:22:13,948 --> 00:22:14,868 Speaker 3: is with the Baltimore Rabas. 561 00:22:14,868 --> 00:22:17,628 Speaker 6: Hey, Jamie, Jamie, I love that you were so complimentary 562 00:22:17,668 --> 00:22:19,308 Speaker 6: of me as an editorial north Star. 563 00:22:19,388 --> 00:22:20,308 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. 564 00:22:20,628 --> 00:22:22,748 Speaker 6: I would like to also play your publicist. You could 565 00:22:22,748 --> 00:22:24,708 Speaker 6: say no to some of these podcasts invites you don't 566 00:22:24,708 --> 00:22:25,908 Speaker 6: have on the Colts pod game. 567 00:22:25,988 --> 00:22:26,988 Speaker 9: You're good. 568 00:22:27,308 --> 00:22:29,028 Speaker 2: You're going to work four hours a day. You got 569 00:22:29,028 --> 00:22:30,948 Speaker 2: three kids at home. We don't need to be doing 570 00:22:30,948 --> 00:22:32,588 Speaker 2: Colts dot com. You're good. 571 00:22:33,068 --> 00:22:35,468 Speaker 3: It was a preview of the Galla Horn experience because 572 00:22:35,468 --> 00:22:37,188 Speaker 3: the Vikings were playing the Colts, and I got to 573 00:22:37,188 --> 00:22:39,828 Speaker 3: talk about the Vikings, who I regret again to say 574 00:22:39,988 --> 00:22:46,708 Speaker 3: not putting them in. I Well, do the Eagles now 575 00:22:47,108 --> 00:22:50,268 Speaker 3: compete with the Lions as a top tier team? It's 576 00:22:50,348 --> 00:22:53,028 Speaker 3: tier talk, Peter in November in the NFC. 577 00:22:54,348 --> 00:22:56,388 Speaker 6: They sure do, because they might have a defense that 578 00:22:56,428 --> 00:22:59,108 Speaker 6: can stop that Lion's offense. You know, we always talk 579 00:22:59,148 --> 00:23:02,508 Speaker 6: about styles make fights, like the Eagles have a dominant defense. 580 00:23:02,628 --> 00:23:04,588 Speaker 6: And not only do they have the Zach Bond who 581 00:23:04,588 --> 00:23:07,508 Speaker 6: he just mentioned and the guys up front, they might 582 00:23:07,548 --> 00:23:11,948 Speaker 6: have a guy that is a goon, a dude, and 583 00:23:12,028 --> 00:23:13,828 Speaker 6: an defensive rookie of the year if we talk about 584 00:23:13,868 --> 00:23:17,468 Speaker 6: quiney On Mitchell, because Quineyon Mitchell has become a shut 585 00:23:17,588 --> 00:23:20,788 Speaker 6: down corner in this league. Take a look at this 586 00:23:20,948 --> 00:23:24,828 Speaker 6: next gen stats full screen that is going around and 587 00:23:24,868 --> 00:23:25,428 Speaker 6: has been. 588 00:23:25,308 --> 00:23:26,148 Speaker 2: Said a bit here. 589 00:23:26,668 --> 00:23:31,068 Speaker 6: This is yesterday Terry McLaurin versus Quineon Mitchell. 590 00:23:31,268 --> 00:23:33,748 Speaker 2: They were matched up twenty times. Do you know how 591 00:23:33,748 --> 00:23:34,788 Speaker 2: many targets he got? 592 00:23:35,148 --> 00:23:35,428 Speaker 9: Zero? 593 00:23:36,228 --> 00:23:40,068 Speaker 6: Receptions, zero, receiving yards zero. 594 00:23:40,228 --> 00:23:43,628 Speaker 2: And it's not just Terry McLaurin. 595 00:23:43,788 --> 00:23:49,228 Speaker 6: It's week after week after week we're talking about a 596 00:23:49,348 --> 00:23:50,308 Speaker 6: rookie out of the. 597 00:23:50,308 --> 00:23:55,348 Speaker 1: Mac who could be the dude that gets the Eagles 598 00:23:55,428 --> 00:23:57,028 Speaker 1: back to the game. 599 00:23:57,868 --> 00:23:59,348 Speaker 2: I'm looking at quiney On Mitchell. 600 00:23:59,388 --> 00:24:01,748 Speaker 6: We loved him in the draft process out of Toledo, 601 00:24:02,308 --> 00:24:04,268 Speaker 6: and I'm like, does he have a nickname? 602 00:24:04,668 --> 00:24:06,748 Speaker 2: Is there something special about him? 603 00:24:07,308 --> 00:24:10,148 Speaker 6: And then I get a tweet this morning and I 604 00:24:10,228 --> 00:24:12,388 Speaker 6: have to show this because I think this might go 605 00:24:12,628 --> 00:24:15,908 Speaker 6: and be a thing. We had revis Island. Do you 606 00:24:15,988 --> 00:24:18,948 Speaker 6: guys know about this? Can we see the tweet? Gina 607 00:24:19,508 --> 00:24:20,988 Speaker 6: Chicken tweet love? 608 00:24:21,508 --> 00:24:22,668 Speaker 2: Do we have it? 609 00:24:22,868 --> 00:24:23,028 Speaker 4: Oh? 610 00:24:23,108 --> 00:24:28,188 Speaker 6: Yes, Quintanamo Bay, Yes, Oh my gosh, Okay. 611 00:24:27,948 --> 00:24:29,748 Speaker 2: Are we and Kyler Is that too extreme? 612 00:24:30,148 --> 00:24:31,988 Speaker 9: I think it's just it's right up to the line. 613 00:24:32,148 --> 00:24:35,028 Speaker 2: It's right up to the line. It's not a great 614 00:24:35,068 --> 00:24:37,228 Speaker 2: moment for our country. It's not a great place. But 615 00:24:37,268 --> 00:24:41,028 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. It gives me some fear. You 616 00:24:41,108 --> 00:24:45,668 Speaker 2: don't want to go there, Quentin Queenan Mitchell, I think 617 00:24:45,668 --> 00:24:48,508 Speaker 2: I crossed the line. I apologize. It's a good one. 618 00:24:48,748 --> 00:24:49,508 Speaker 2: It's a good twist. 619 00:24:49,668 --> 00:24:56,348 Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, talking about Quins probably better off bar. 620 00:25:00,268 --> 00:25:00,828 Speaker 2: To waterboard. 621 00:25:00,908 --> 00:25:04,028 Speaker 1: Terry McCory like me, he's a. 622 00:25:03,988 --> 00:25:04,988 Speaker 9: Good play you're a good guy. 623 00:25:05,068 --> 00:25:07,068 Speaker 2: It's a place you don't want to be. Let's just 624 00:25:07,148 --> 00:25:07,548 Speaker 2: say that. 625 00:25:07,748 --> 00:25:11,508 Speaker 6: So Wave they've got their dude, and it's a it's 626 00:25:11,508 --> 00:25:12,268 Speaker 6: a it's a rookie. 627 00:25:12,308 --> 00:25:14,508 Speaker 2: He's the first defensive back taken. And if you have 628 00:25:14,548 --> 00:25:15,548 Speaker 2: a dude, you can stop him. 629 00:25:15,588 --> 00:25:18,148 Speaker 6: On Ross saying Brown, you can stop Drake London, you 630 00:25:18,188 --> 00:25:20,028 Speaker 6: could stop Cooper cup Quinnon. 631 00:25:20,108 --> 00:25:22,548 Speaker 2: Mitchell's that guy. And it's early on in his career. 632 00:25:22,588 --> 00:25:24,948 Speaker 6: And of course people will say he's exposed later on 633 00:25:25,068 --> 00:25:27,468 Speaker 6: or whatever. For now though they're not throwing on him, 634 00:25:27,468 --> 00:25:29,628 Speaker 6: and when they do, he stops him. I like the 635 00:25:29,668 --> 00:25:32,028 Speaker 6: Eagles defense. I think they're the best defense in the 636 00:25:32,148 --> 00:25:34,788 Speaker 6: NFC right now, And for that, I do believe they 637 00:25:34,788 --> 00:25:36,468 Speaker 6: are one of the top teams in the NFC. 638 00:25:37,268 --> 00:25:39,508 Speaker 11: Yes, it's hard to argue with that, Peter that you 639 00:25:39,548 --> 00:25:41,748 Speaker 11: know they're up there with the Detroit Lions. You try 640 00:25:41,788 --> 00:25:44,148 Speaker 11: to think about how they line up against the Detroit Lions. 641 00:25:44,148 --> 00:25:46,188 Speaker 11: You start to think about, Okay, what are the Detroit 642 00:25:46,228 --> 00:25:50,268 Speaker 11: Lions weapons of Mona Saint Brown, Jamiir Gibbs, David Montgomery, 643 00:25:50,588 --> 00:25:51,828 Speaker 11: and you try to think. 644 00:25:51,668 --> 00:25:52,708 Speaker 9: About how they stack up. 645 00:25:52,748 --> 00:25:54,308 Speaker 11: Well, last night, they did a heck of a job 646 00:25:54,348 --> 00:25:57,788 Speaker 11: against that run game that the Commanders had. They did 647 00:25:57,788 --> 00:25:59,868 Speaker 11: a heck of a job against the receivers that that 648 00:26:00,508 --> 00:26:03,028 Speaker 11: the Commanders had. So they line up and they match 649 00:26:03,108 --> 00:26:05,508 Speaker 11: up very very well with with this Lions team. The 650 00:26:06,308 --> 00:26:10,708 Speaker 11: only thing I would question is with the head coach, 651 00:26:11,388 --> 00:26:16,068 Speaker 11: Dan with Dan Campbell, what Dan Campbell has brewing over 652 00:26:16,068 --> 00:26:18,748 Speaker 11: there in Detroit and that culture that he has. They're 653 00:26:18,828 --> 00:26:23,348 Speaker 11: me knowing Dan personally, Detroit isn't worried about everybody else. 654 00:26:23,388 --> 00:26:26,348 Speaker 11: All they're worried about is themselves. Now, when you have 655 00:26:26,388 --> 00:26:29,068 Speaker 11: a head coach that has that personality where it's all 656 00:26:29,108 --> 00:26:31,508 Speaker 11: about us, It's all about striving to be the best 657 00:26:31,508 --> 00:26:34,388 Speaker 11: that we can. But you get the type of results 658 00:26:34,388 --> 00:26:36,188 Speaker 11: that we've been able to see with the Detroit Lions. 659 00:26:36,228 --> 00:26:39,188 Speaker 11: You get those five interceptions by Jared Goff. Yet they 660 00:26:39,228 --> 00:26:42,668 Speaker 11: still find a way to win on defense, doing special teams, 661 00:26:42,668 --> 00:26:44,108 Speaker 11: they still find ways to win. 662 00:26:44,388 --> 00:26:45,468 Speaker 9: The Detroit Lions. 663 00:26:45,468 --> 00:26:47,988 Speaker 11: For some time now since dan Quinn took over, the 664 00:26:47,988 --> 00:26:50,228 Speaker 11: only weakness they had was in the second half. That's it. 665 00:26:50,268 --> 00:26:52,828 Speaker 11: For some reason, when the second half came along, they'll 666 00:26:52,988 --> 00:26:55,268 Speaker 11: just they just wouldn't show up as they did in 667 00:26:55,268 --> 00:26:57,388 Speaker 11: the first half. What we learned in the twenty twenty 668 00:26:57,388 --> 00:27:00,228 Speaker 11: fourth season is this isn't the same Detroit Lions football 669 00:27:00,228 --> 00:27:03,148 Speaker 11: team now in regards to the Eagles. Their defense is 670 00:27:03,188 --> 00:27:06,188 Speaker 11: the number one defense in the National Football League. Late 671 00:27:06,188 --> 00:27:08,548 Speaker 11: in this season, they are starting to get their their 672 00:27:08,588 --> 00:27:11,348 Speaker 11: stride catchers stride a little bit. So I'm really looking 673 00:27:11,428 --> 00:27:14,308 Speaker 11: forward to when the day that these two teams meet, 674 00:27:14,308 --> 00:27:16,068 Speaker 11: because that's going to be one of those matchups that 675 00:27:16,068 --> 00:27:16,988 Speaker 11: we're going to be clued in on. 676 00:27:17,468 --> 00:27:20,468 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, this game was so so cool to 677 00:27:20,508 --> 00:27:22,628 Speaker 8: watch and just to see the dominance of this defense. 678 00:27:22,948 --> 00:27:25,068 Speaker 8: And I'm not going to allow this, you know, to 679 00:27:25,148 --> 00:27:28,348 Speaker 8: kind of like just you know, slowly start pushing the 680 00:27:28,388 --> 00:27:31,708 Speaker 8: conversation of the Commanders out of the way, Like the 681 00:27:31,748 --> 00:27:34,308 Speaker 8: Commanders are still very much a very good team. I 682 00:27:34,348 --> 00:27:36,228 Speaker 8: know that they've had two back to back loss there 683 00:27:36,388 --> 00:27:39,228 Speaker 8: obviously still in this you know, because of their record. 684 00:27:39,308 --> 00:27:41,068 Speaker 8: But I want you to take a look kind of 685 00:27:41,108 --> 00:27:43,748 Speaker 8: at the at the at the schedule. So there it 686 00:27:43,828 --> 00:27:45,828 Speaker 8: is right there, We've got the schedule for the Eagles. 687 00:27:46,148 --> 00:27:49,108 Speaker 8: And it's very possible now hear me out here, the 688 00:27:49,228 --> 00:27:51,868 Speaker 8: Rams will learn a lot this Sunday about how they're playing. 689 00:27:51,868 --> 00:27:56,268 Speaker 8: But the Rams, the Ravens, the Steelers, and then the Commanders, 690 00:27:56,308 --> 00:28:00,428 Speaker 8: having taken this butt whoopen last night, they learned something, 691 00:28:00,468 --> 00:28:02,788 Speaker 8: They come back and they end up winning. You could 692 00:28:02,788 --> 00:28:05,748 Speaker 8: have a situation where the Comanders, because of their schedule, 693 00:28:06,028 --> 00:28:08,428 Speaker 8: they went out and look at this, Look. 694 00:28:08,268 --> 00:28:08,908 Speaker 2: At the schedule. 695 00:28:08,908 --> 00:28:11,788 Speaker 8: Here, Look how easy this is for the Commanders. Not 696 00:28:11,828 --> 00:28:13,668 Speaker 8: saying that they're just going to blow all the teams out, 697 00:28:13,748 --> 00:28:16,188 Speaker 8: but they got the Cowboys, Titans, Saints, they come back 698 00:28:16,228 --> 00:28:18,108 Speaker 8: to the Eagles, they end up win that there's a 699 00:28:18,148 --> 00:28:22,348 Speaker 8: situation where the Commanders finish up thirteen and four and 700 00:28:22,508 --> 00:28:25,508 Speaker 8: at that top spot in the in the NFC East. 701 00:28:25,668 --> 00:28:28,468 Speaker 8: So just something to consider. That the Commanders. You're still 702 00:28:28,508 --> 00:28:31,748 Speaker 8: in this. Everybody, slow down, slow down. The Commander's got this. 703 00:28:33,268 --> 00:28:35,548 Speaker 1: I think the Commanders have shown who they are and 704 00:28:35,548 --> 00:28:37,668 Speaker 1: they're a pretty good team. They've lost two games in 705 00:28:37,708 --> 00:28:40,108 Speaker 1: five days. They were seven and two six days ago. 706 00:28:40,508 --> 00:28:42,668 Speaker 1: I have, I mean, if we're going to do schedules 707 00:28:42,668 --> 00:28:44,388 Speaker 1: and all that, I have just in my own head 708 00:28:44,468 --> 00:28:47,388 Speaker 1: some tiers in the NFC, in the lower tier. If 709 00:28:47,388 --> 00:28:50,228 Speaker 1: this seems that matter, I got this scrappy up and comers. 710 00:28:50,468 --> 00:28:54,268 Speaker 1: So you got Commanders, Falcons, Vikings, and Cardinals. 711 00:28:53,708 --> 00:28:54,588 Speaker 9: They're kind of interesting. 712 00:28:55,268 --> 00:29:00,108 Speaker 1: Then you got the old war horses, the old standbys, Packers, Niners. 713 00:28:59,788 --> 00:29:02,148 Speaker 9: Eagles, and then I think you have the Lions all 714 00:29:02,188 --> 00:29:04,588 Speaker 9: by themselves. I really do. And if the question is 715 00:29:04,868 --> 00:29:09,348 Speaker 9: are the Eagles the Lions are? Do you trust Nick Sirianni? 716 00:29:09,388 --> 00:29:09,628 Speaker 2: Still? 717 00:29:09,628 --> 00:29:10,588 Speaker 9: Are we gonna ignore that? 718 00:29:10,708 --> 00:29:12,388 Speaker 1: Like I know that they have a winning streak, But 719 00:29:12,708 --> 00:29:15,148 Speaker 1: when it really comes blow to blow and it's January 720 00:29:15,188 --> 00:29:19,508 Speaker 1: football and he's going against take your pick, Shanahan Campbell 721 00:29:19,548 --> 00:29:20,828 Speaker 1: like one of those guys, and he. 722 00:29:20,868 --> 00:29:22,628 Speaker 2: Meant more of a made man than Dan cam Like, 723 00:29:22,708 --> 00:29:24,108 Speaker 2: let's know, a made man than Dan Campbell. 724 00:29:24,788 --> 00:29:27,588 Speaker 1: I think with a big Stoggle did and took Detroit 725 00:29:27,628 --> 00:29:30,388 Speaker 1: from where they were. I mean, Philadelphia has been to 726 00:29:30,428 --> 00:29:33,668 Speaker 1: great heights before, Sirianni, they'll be there after, Sirianni. I 727 00:29:33,668 --> 00:29:35,748 Speaker 1: think what Campbell did, especially in the title game, you 728 00:29:35,788 --> 00:29:36,348 Speaker 1: had them winning. 729 00:29:36,348 --> 00:29:38,388 Speaker 9: Now he's made some mistakes, for sure. It's a good question. 730 00:29:38,748 --> 00:29:43,068 Speaker 1: I don't think with the bullets flying. But I also 731 00:29:43,188 --> 00:29:46,148 Speaker 1: don't think there's the Lions fan base is just ready 732 00:29:46,188 --> 00:29:48,148 Speaker 1: to pounce them at a moment's notice. They're in this 733 00:29:48,348 --> 00:29:51,948 Speaker 1: crazy win streak in Philadelphia, Yet you still feel unrest 734 00:29:52,028 --> 00:29:53,908 Speaker 1: against the Eagles fans, like it's like a coming back 735 00:29:53,908 --> 00:29:56,828 Speaker 1: to burn them. Maybe that's unfair to Syriann. He's like, geez, guys, 736 00:29:56,868 --> 00:29:58,388 Speaker 1: I'm ating too, What the hell do you want for me? 737 00:29:58,988 --> 00:30:01,628 Speaker 1: Are you eighting too? Or is the team ating too? 738 00:30:01,868 --> 00:30:04,508 Speaker 1: And there's a divide there. Still, I still think the 739 00:30:04,508 --> 00:30:05,188 Speaker 1: Lions are on their own. 740 00:30:05,228 --> 00:30:08,028 Speaker 6: I would say this too, because Saquan's been awesome and 741 00:30:08,108 --> 00:30:12,388 Speaker 6: they did put up enough points. Jalen Hurts still leaves 742 00:30:12,428 --> 00:30:15,188 Speaker 6: some plays on the field and still leaves a lot 743 00:30:15,228 --> 00:30:17,148 Speaker 6: to be desired, and I hate being critical on the 744 00:30:17,308 --> 00:30:20,348 Speaker 6: morning after he valiantly won another game and they've won six. 745 00:30:20,148 --> 00:30:20,548 Speaker 2: In a row. 746 00:30:20,588 --> 00:30:23,748 Speaker 6: But it's like, to your point, Jalen Hurts of that 747 00:30:23,788 --> 00:30:26,508 Speaker 6: Super Bowl hit this Apex, he got paid right afterwards, 748 00:30:26,588 --> 00:30:28,868 Speaker 6: Like I want to see that version of Jalen Hurts again. 749 00:30:29,228 --> 00:30:30,508 Speaker 2: I haven't seen it this season. 750 00:30:30,828 --> 00:30:32,468 Speaker 6: Maybe he'll get there again, or maybe they don't need 751 00:30:32,548 --> 00:30:33,308 Speaker 6: him to get there again. 752 00:30:33,388 --> 00:30:34,548 Speaker 2: The Eagles are very good. 753 00:30:34,588 --> 00:30:36,308 Speaker 6: I don't think they're as good as that Super Bowl 754 00:30:36,348 --> 00:30:37,908 Speaker 6: team that went there a couple of years ago. 755 00:30:37,988 --> 00:30:39,828 Speaker 3: I mean, Peter, if Jalen Hurts gets back to that 756 00:30:39,908 --> 00:30:43,148 Speaker 3: apex like, then we're having a different conversation about the 757 00:30:43,148 --> 00:30:45,028 Speaker 3: Eagles and the Lions. Like if that's the kind of 758 00:30:45,068 --> 00:30:46,948 Speaker 3: thing you're going to piece together in terms of puzzle 759 00:30:46,948 --> 00:30:49,748 Speaker 3: piecing NFC teams, it does make my brain go to 760 00:30:49,828 --> 00:30:53,748 Speaker 3: places of like home playoff games in Philadelphia or Detroit, 761 00:30:53,788 --> 00:30:55,988 Speaker 3: and what those challenges might unfold for the teams that 762 00:30:56,068 --> 00:30:56,748 Speaker 3: have to go there. 763 00:31:09,868 --> 00:31:11,908 Speaker 2: Good football. 764 00:31:12,028 --> 00:31:14,508 Speaker 3: We are out of our minds crazy for the schedule 765 00:31:14,548 --> 00:31:16,588 Speaker 3: that's on tap this weekend. 766 00:31:16,228 --> 00:31:16,988 Speaker 2: In the NFL. 767 00:31:17,148 --> 00:31:20,468 Speaker 3: Therefore, of course, is a time for mad minute. Let's 768 00:31:20,468 --> 00:31:22,668 Speaker 3: go tee up sixty seconds on the clock. We're going 769 00:31:22,708 --> 00:31:25,428 Speaker 3: to rifle through all these games that we must talk about. 770 00:31:25,708 --> 00:31:26,588 Speaker 2: We just hit. 771 00:31:26,668 --> 00:31:29,828 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson heard from the Ravens quarterback about his hatred 772 00:31:29,948 --> 00:31:32,868 Speaker 3: he has for an AFC North rival and the Steelers. Peter, 773 00:31:33,028 --> 00:31:33,828 Speaker 3: where do you take. 774 00:31:33,748 --> 00:31:34,308 Speaker 2: Us for this one? 775 00:31:34,428 --> 00:31:39,228 Speaker 6: Let's get into this Baltimore versus Pittsburgh. I will say this, 776 00:31:39,988 --> 00:31:44,988 Speaker 6: we have seen this game sixty different times, sixty different times, 777 00:31:44,988 --> 00:31:46,308 Speaker 6: and I don't know if there's ever been a regular 778 00:31:46,308 --> 00:31:48,148 Speaker 6: season game as big as this one. Seven and two, 779 00:31:48,228 --> 00:31:51,068 Speaker 6: seven and three, The Russell Wilson story, the Lamar Jackson story. 780 00:31:51,428 --> 00:31:53,628 Speaker 6: I've heard from a lot of Steelers fans and no 781 00:31:53,708 --> 00:31:56,428 Speaker 6: Shrieker like, we're good in the division, We've got this. 782 00:31:56,428 --> 00:31:57,748 Speaker 6: This is a home game I think is almost a 783 00:31:57,828 --> 00:31:58,828 Speaker 6: must win for these guys. 784 00:31:59,148 --> 00:31:59,348 Speaker 9: Yeah. 785 00:31:59,388 --> 00:32:00,108 Speaker 4: I like the Steelers. 786 00:32:00,148 --> 00:32:02,508 Speaker 11: They look like the more complete team right now. They're deep. 787 00:32:02,628 --> 00:32:05,388 Speaker 11: I know the Ravens are having struggles on the defensive side, 788 00:32:05,508 --> 00:32:07,988 Speaker 11: but if you look top to bottom offensively with Russell Wilson, 789 00:32:08,028 --> 00:32:09,428 Speaker 11: they're doing very well, very well. 790 00:32:09,428 --> 00:32:10,068 Speaker 4: In the past game. 791 00:32:10,108 --> 00:32:12,788 Speaker 11: Defensively, they've been good and special teams we've talked about 792 00:32:12,828 --> 00:32:14,948 Speaker 11: on this show. A lot of that special teams are 793 00:32:14,988 --> 00:32:16,668 Speaker 11: making some key plays. So they're looking like the more 794 00:32:16,708 --> 00:32:17,228 Speaker 11: complete team. 795 00:32:18,468 --> 00:32:22,388 Speaker 1: Steelers one this thing. Russell Mania runs wild. I haven't 796 00:32:22,668 --> 00:32:25,748 Speaker 1: blown away again. By the last month of the season. 797 00:32:25,748 --> 00:32:28,508 Speaker 1: The biggest story is Mike Tomlins's decision to start Russell. 798 00:32:28,548 --> 00:32:31,228 Speaker 1: Wilson hasn't lost since, has looked incredible. 799 00:32:31,388 --> 00:32:33,548 Speaker 9: Lamar's the MVP. I'm looking at Russell in this game. 800 00:32:33,588 --> 00:32:36,868 Speaker 8: I mean it, well, I'll just say this, Mike Williams, 801 00:32:36,908 --> 00:32:40,108 Speaker 8: George Pakers. I mean I'm seeing them attacking that Ravens 802 00:32:40,308 --> 00:32:42,468 Speaker 8: secondary defense. I can see Mike will I think a 803 00:32:42,508 --> 00:32:43,308 Speaker 8: big game on that one. 804 00:32:43,348 --> 00:32:45,228 Speaker 3: All right, here we go. I'm curious what people are 805 00:32:45,228 --> 00:32:46,708 Speaker 3: going to say in this one because we're going to 806 00:32:46,788 --> 00:32:50,108 Speaker 3: do spotlight players later. Kyle and my player comes within 807 00:32:50,188 --> 00:32:53,708 Speaker 3: this matchup Falcons Broncos Kyle ti us Off. 808 00:32:55,348 --> 00:32:57,948 Speaker 1: It's one of these teams that whoever loses this game, 809 00:32:58,028 --> 00:33:01,548 Speaker 1: it's gonna be like we got problems may day may Day. Now, 810 00:33:01,588 --> 00:33:03,468 Speaker 1: maybe you don't say that about the Falcons because you're 811 00:33:03,508 --> 00:33:06,308 Speaker 1: not that terrified of their division. Tough, tough loss last 812 00:33:06,308 --> 00:33:07,268 Speaker 1: week against the Saints. 813 00:33:07,628 --> 00:33:08,708 Speaker 2: I would just say this with Bronco. 814 00:33:08,788 --> 00:33:09,948 Speaker 9: I want them to get back in this race. 815 00:33:09,988 --> 00:33:11,468 Speaker 1: I think they're a fun story and if they go 816 00:33:11,508 --> 00:33:13,148 Speaker 1: to five and six the FC, it might be tough. 817 00:33:14,468 --> 00:33:17,348 Speaker 8: You know, I'm looking at Drake London, Drake London going 818 00:33:17,428 --> 00:33:20,508 Speaker 8: up against Kate excuse me, Drake London going up against 819 00:33:20,908 --> 00:33:24,908 Speaker 8: Patrick's Certain. Those two guys and how Patrick Saint Certain 820 00:33:24,988 --> 00:33:27,788 Speaker 8: has been playing this defense is outstanding. I expect them 821 00:33:27,828 --> 00:33:29,948 Speaker 8: to put a lot of pressure and certain to Kay 822 00:33:30,028 --> 00:33:31,028 Speaker 8: Dot Drake in this one. 823 00:33:32,388 --> 00:33:34,308 Speaker 6: Look, I look at this, The Falcons remind me of 824 00:33:34,308 --> 00:33:37,268 Speaker 6: like the Texans of the NFC South. This is like, 825 00:33:37,388 --> 00:33:40,668 Speaker 6: you're gonna win your division. You're okay, like you're safe, 826 00:33:41,068 --> 00:33:42,268 Speaker 6: But what do you want to be? Do you want 827 00:33:42,268 --> 00:33:43,668 Speaker 6: to be the fourth seed or do you want to 828 00:33:43,668 --> 00:33:46,108 Speaker 6: actually do something? Atlanta spent a lot of money on 829 00:33:46,188 --> 00:33:49,668 Speaker 6: Kirk Cousins. They brought in Simmons from Broncos. They brought 830 00:33:49,668 --> 00:33:51,988 Speaker 6: in Judan What are you, Falcons? Are you a four 831 00:33:52,068 --> 00:33:53,828 Speaker 6: seed they're just gonna lose in the wild card round? 832 00:33:54,268 --> 00:33:56,468 Speaker 6: Or you guys actually challengers in the NFC, go win 833 00:33:56,508 --> 00:33:56,868 Speaker 6: this game. 834 00:33:57,508 --> 00:33:57,708 Speaker 4: Yeah. 835 00:33:57,748 --> 00:33:59,828 Speaker 11: I like the fact that after the game, champagne them, 836 00:33:59,788 --> 00:34:02,348 Speaker 11: we're saying that guys are being up. They knew they 837 00:34:02,348 --> 00:34:04,908 Speaker 11: outplayed their opponent. And so I like the tree of 838 00:34:04,908 --> 00:34:07,748 Speaker 11: the Denver Broncles and where Sean Payton has this team going. 839 00:34:07,828 --> 00:34:09,748 Speaker 3: You may have just heard Kyle say, like, we gotta 840 00:34:09,788 --> 00:34:14,308 Speaker 3: be better. Okay, fifteen seventy, it's mad knitted fifty fifteen 841 00:34:14,348 --> 00:34:16,948 Speaker 3: to fifteen, get it. Okay, off bar, you're first. The 842 00:34:16,948 --> 00:34:20,028 Speaker 3: Cardinals sit atop the NFC West, all right. The Seahawks 843 00:34:20,028 --> 00:34:21,628 Speaker 3: and the forty nine ers are playing each other's weekend. 844 00:34:21,708 --> 00:34:21,788 Speaker 1: Go. 845 00:34:22,308 --> 00:34:25,188 Speaker 8: Christian McCaffrey is probably now trusting his body. He's got 846 00:34:25,188 --> 00:34:27,428 Speaker 8: his feet wet in that first game last week. Now 847 00:34:27,468 --> 00:34:30,268 Speaker 8: he's feeling comfortable. I want to see this offense get 848 00:34:30,348 --> 00:34:32,068 Speaker 8: back to where they are because they still in this 849 00:34:32,188 --> 00:34:34,268 Speaker 8: race to get the top of that a excuse me? 850 00:34:34,268 --> 00:34:35,348 Speaker 2: The NFC West? Nice? 851 00:34:35,428 --> 00:34:36,428 Speaker 4: Yeah, CMC is back. 852 00:34:36,748 --> 00:34:40,308 Speaker 2: See Seahawks. What are we doing here? Peter jumped in. 853 00:34:40,348 --> 00:34:42,828 Speaker 2: Now my fault. Let's go forty nine ers. Look at this. 854 00:34:43,148 --> 00:34:45,788 Speaker 6: Forty nine ers are five and oh against Geno Smith 855 00:34:45,828 --> 00:34:48,268 Speaker 6: since he joined the Seahawks as their quarterback. Five and 856 00:34:48,308 --> 00:34:50,948 Speaker 6: oh Gino again. Same thing I just said about the Falcons. 857 00:34:50,948 --> 00:34:53,228 Speaker 6: What are the Seahawks right now? Lose another one here, 858 00:34:53,348 --> 00:34:54,268 Speaker 6: season might be done? 859 00:34:54,388 --> 00:34:56,788 Speaker 11: Yeah, what are the Seahawks right now? See CMC is back. 860 00:34:57,188 --> 00:34:59,108 Speaker 11: I'm excited to see him back in the Niners. Spans 861 00:34:59,108 --> 00:35:00,828 Speaker 11: are excited to see him back. Drake green Law is 862 00:35:00,828 --> 00:35:02,508 Speaker 11: on his way back. So this this forty nine Ers 863 00:35:02,548 --> 00:35:03,948 Speaker 11: team is getting back some key pieces. 864 00:35:05,068 --> 00:35:07,428 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you know another one. Forty nine 865 00:35:07,468 --> 00:35:10,468 Speaker 1: Ers are watching this game, Jake Moody. Watch the forty 866 00:35:10,548 --> 00:35:13,508 Speaker 1: nine ers kicker, guys. The Eagles have kicker problems, the 867 00:35:13,508 --> 00:35:16,868 Speaker 1: Falcons have kicker problems, The Packers have kicker problems. All 868 00:35:16,908 --> 00:35:19,348 Speaker 1: these NFC teams we expect to be in the playoffs, 869 00:35:19,708 --> 00:35:21,708 Speaker 1: do not show up with the kicker who's in his 870 00:35:21,708 --> 00:35:24,228 Speaker 1: head and long snapper who has to fight the wide receiver. 871 00:35:24,388 --> 00:35:26,828 Speaker 9: Don't show up like that. They need a big kicking game. 872 00:35:26,988 --> 00:35:27,908 Speaker 9: That's my spice to take. 873 00:35:27,948 --> 00:35:30,668 Speaker 3: Hey, the Rams are feeling like Manti just did little 874 00:35:30,708 --> 00:35:33,108 Speaker 3: speed bump there after a loss to the Dolphins on 875 00:35:33,188 --> 00:35:34,388 Speaker 3: Monday Night football. 876 00:35:34,628 --> 00:35:35,228 Speaker 2: We can do this. 877 00:35:35,268 --> 00:35:38,268 Speaker 3: That was very close, Peter, start us off. Start the trend. 878 00:35:38,308 --> 00:35:40,188 Speaker 3: What are we expecting from Sean mcvah and the Rams 879 00:35:40,188 --> 00:35:41,268 Speaker 3: against the Pats this week. 880 00:35:42,468 --> 00:35:44,628 Speaker 2: Don't look at this one as some sort of easy one. 881 00:35:44,908 --> 00:35:45,748 Speaker 2: I mean, I look at this. 882 00:35:45,788 --> 00:35:47,788 Speaker 6: They just lost to the Dolphins on national TV and 883 00:35:47,788 --> 00:35:49,828 Speaker 6: they looked flat. Do not go into New England and 884 00:35:49,868 --> 00:35:51,348 Speaker 6: think Drake May is not going to give you hell. 885 00:35:52,228 --> 00:35:54,828 Speaker 6: This Rams team is still very much alive. At four 886 00:35:54,828 --> 00:35:58,628 Speaker 6: and five, you lose to New England and to the Dolphins, 887 00:35:58,708 --> 00:36:00,548 Speaker 6: you're at four and six heading into the heart of 888 00:36:00,548 --> 00:36:02,588 Speaker 6: the schedule. No, no, no, this has to be a win, 889 00:36:02,668 --> 00:36:05,028 Speaker 6: no matter where it's being played and how away it is. 890 00:36:05,308 --> 00:36:07,668 Speaker 11: This is the game la offense. I like to think 891 00:36:07,708 --> 00:36:09,348 Speaker 11: that was a fluke last week. So this is a game. 892 00:36:09,628 --> 00:36:11,308 Speaker 11: Let's get things going in the red zone. This turn 893 00:36:11,348 --> 00:36:12,708 Speaker 11: those field goals into touchdowns. 894 00:36:13,068 --> 00:36:14,268 Speaker 9: I can't wait till the playoffs. 895 00:36:14,308 --> 00:36:16,908 Speaker 1: And Peter's gonna say they had that game against the 896 00:36:16,948 --> 00:36:19,708 Speaker 1: Dolphins where they looked flat and they lost, and then 897 00:36:19,748 --> 00:36:22,348 Speaker 1: they turn their season around. I think the Rams win 898 00:36:22,428 --> 00:36:24,268 Speaker 1: this game by two touchdowns and they go on a 899 00:36:24,308 --> 00:36:26,388 Speaker 1: winning streak. I will not abandon the Rams. They will 900 00:36:26,388 --> 00:36:27,108 Speaker 1: be in the playoffs. 901 00:36:27,108 --> 00:36:28,508 Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, they better not. 902 00:36:28,788 --> 00:36:30,548 Speaker 8: They better not, because this is a win that they're 903 00:36:30,548 --> 00:36:33,508 Speaker 8: supposed to get. But remember, we can't sleep on the Patriots. 904 00:36:33,508 --> 00:36:35,988 Speaker 8: The Patriots coming off that win against the Bears, who 905 00:36:36,028 --> 00:36:37,388 Speaker 8: I think a lot of people thought that the Bears 906 00:36:37,388 --> 00:36:39,508 Speaker 8: were going to bounce back on the Patriots. So don't 907 00:36:39,508 --> 00:36:41,428 Speaker 8: sleep on this one, and it's very easy to play 908 00:36:41,468 --> 00:36:42,268 Speaker 8: down to your opponent. 909 00:36:42,788 --> 00:36:46,228 Speaker 3: Nice, very good, everybody, all right again, all right, that 910 00:36:46,348 --> 00:36:48,908 Speaker 3: was the best one. Like ot other teams like, we 911 00:36:48,948 --> 00:36:51,948 Speaker 3: got to start stronger earlier. Okay, Bengals looking to keep 912 00:36:51,988 --> 00:36:54,788 Speaker 3: their playoff hopes alive. Man, we're still saying that about 913 00:36:54,828 --> 00:36:56,988 Speaker 3: the Bengals, which is so amazing to me, because they've 914 00:36:57,028 --> 00:36:59,228 Speaker 3: lost bad games and they've won weird games. 915 00:36:59,268 --> 00:37:00,188 Speaker 2: They head to La. 916 00:37:00,188 --> 00:37:02,388 Speaker 3: Right across street here to take on the Charger, who 917 00:37:02,388 --> 00:37:05,788 Speaker 3: have won their last three games. Mantai Chargers practice yesterday. 918 00:37:05,868 --> 00:37:05,988 Speaker 2: Goo. 919 00:37:06,348 --> 00:37:09,588 Speaker 11: Yeah. I love the Chargers for obvious reasons. But they 920 00:37:09,588 --> 00:37:11,628 Speaker 11: are a team that doesn't make a lot of mistakes. 921 00:37:11,668 --> 00:37:14,108 Speaker 11: I said that yesterday. But not only do they not 922 00:37:14,188 --> 00:37:16,068 Speaker 11: make a lot of mistakes, they are really good at 923 00:37:16,108 --> 00:37:18,508 Speaker 11: capitalizing on the mistakes that the other team to make. 924 00:37:18,548 --> 00:37:20,908 Speaker 11: And we saw that in the Browns game, so expect 925 00:37:20,948 --> 00:37:22,108 Speaker 11: that to continue on Sunday. 926 00:37:22,308 --> 00:37:23,108 Speaker 9: Well, I think it's. 927 00:37:23,028 --> 00:37:24,588 Speaker 1: Nice that the Bengals are going to be here in 928 00:37:24,628 --> 00:37:25,308 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. 929 00:37:25,348 --> 00:37:27,028 Speaker 9: There's a lot of great ports and. 930 00:37:27,028 --> 00:37:30,148 Speaker 1: Marinas because it might be gone fishing time for Cincinnati. 931 00:37:30,388 --> 00:37:32,668 Speaker 9: Don't go where we can't follow you. We can't follow 932 00:37:32,708 --> 00:37:34,868 Speaker 9: you to four and seven. I love this Chargers team 933 00:37:35,028 --> 00:37:35,828 Speaker 9: hitting their stride. 934 00:37:35,908 --> 00:37:38,428 Speaker 8: Yeah, they're hitting their stride too, because that defense, that 935 00:37:38,548 --> 00:37:41,788 Speaker 8: defense has been playing so well. They've been really kind 936 00:37:41,828 --> 00:37:43,908 Speaker 8: of the ones that are stable and anchoring this thing. 937 00:37:44,148 --> 00:37:47,228 Speaker 8: I like to see them dominate against the Bengals. 938 00:37:47,588 --> 00:37:50,108 Speaker 6: You know, Cortes Kennedy wants one Defensive Player of the 939 00:37:50,188 --> 00:37:52,548 Speaker 6: Year on a two win team. Tim Tebow once won 940 00:37:52,628 --> 00:37:54,628 Speaker 6: a Heisman on a team that had like four. 941 00:37:54,548 --> 00:37:55,548 Speaker 2: Or five losses. 942 00:37:55,668 --> 00:37:58,668 Speaker 6: I look at this Joe Burrow season and what he's 943 00:37:58,708 --> 00:38:01,868 Speaker 6: doing tearing up the league. Is there a way that 944 00:38:01,948 --> 00:38:04,628 Speaker 6: he can still win the MVP even if it's team 945 00:38:04,668 --> 00:38:07,068 Speaker 6: is sitting at four and six going into week eleven? 946 00:38:07,228 --> 00:38:09,388 Speaker 2: I think so the award is still wide open. 947 00:38:09,748 --> 00:38:11,988 Speaker 6: If Burrow continues on and gets this win and goes 948 00:38:12,028 --> 00:38:14,988 Speaker 6: on a tear, Joe Burrow with a six losses, seven losses, 949 00:38:14,988 --> 00:38:16,668 Speaker 6: eight losses can still be our league MVP. 950 00:38:16,748 --> 00:38:19,548 Speaker 2: He's been that good. So Joe Burrow, National TV, do 951 00:38:19,628 --> 00:38:19,948 Speaker 2: your thing. 952 00:38:20,108 --> 00:38:21,828 Speaker 3: I'm supposed to do another game, but no, Peter, we 953 00:38:21,828 --> 00:38:24,268 Speaker 3: got to circle back to that. So what's making you 954 00:38:24,308 --> 00:38:26,668 Speaker 3: say that now is the time that you bring that up? 955 00:38:26,748 --> 00:38:29,428 Speaker 3: And the fact that has there been anything established before 956 00:38:29,508 --> 00:38:31,908 Speaker 3: that would make voters go towards a team that might 957 00:38:32,188 --> 00:38:34,108 Speaker 3: amass a couple more losses this season. 958 00:38:34,548 --> 00:38:37,668 Speaker 6: I just think Joe Burrow's been outstanding this year and 959 00:38:37,708 --> 00:38:40,348 Speaker 6: he's thrown four touchdowns three different times. A couple of 960 00:38:40,388 --> 00:38:43,068 Speaker 6: those games were losses. He's been lighting it up. The 961 00:38:43,108 --> 00:38:45,868 Speaker 6: defense has been terrible, and they have had some issues 962 00:38:45,908 --> 00:38:48,508 Speaker 6: stopping teams in big moments. That said, it's a wide 963 00:38:48,548 --> 00:38:51,508 Speaker 6: open and we're talking about Taquon Lamar. You start going 964 00:38:51,548 --> 00:38:53,468 Speaker 6: through it, You're like, it's not really Mahomes. Even though 965 00:38:53,508 --> 00:38:55,948 Speaker 6: the Chiefs have to be the best, Burrow's been the 966 00:38:56,028 --> 00:38:58,108 Speaker 6: name and he's been the most viable player in his team. 967 00:38:58,388 --> 00:39:00,268 Speaker 6: I'm going to make the argument that if the Bengals 968 00:39:00,308 --> 00:39:01,028 Speaker 6: going around. 969 00:39:00,788 --> 00:39:03,308 Speaker 9: Burrow could be, then I love it. I'm gonna go 970 00:39:03,348 --> 00:39:03,948 Speaker 9: way back. 971 00:39:03,788 --> 00:39:07,388 Speaker 1: Give you a Paul Horning won the Heisman Trophy on 972 00:39:07,428 --> 00:39:08,308 Speaker 1: a two and eight team. 973 00:39:08,388 --> 00:39:10,948 Speaker 9: Manti, you know exactly what I'm talking about. It is 974 00:39:10,988 --> 00:39:11,708 Speaker 9: the only. 975 00:39:11,508 --> 00:39:13,668 Speaker 1: Time in the history of the Heisman that a losing 976 00:39:13,748 --> 00:39:16,708 Speaker 1: player has won the Heisman two and eight and what 977 00:39:16,868 --> 00:39:19,428 Speaker 1: that was in the fifties, though, guys bir doing it 978 00:39:19,468 --> 00:39:21,348 Speaker 1: would bring the house down Manti get in here on this. 979 00:39:21,428 --> 00:39:22,268 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a hard one. 980 00:39:22,948 --> 00:39:26,588 Speaker 3: Go ahead, So it could be a storied MVP season 981 00:39:26,628 --> 00:39:31,668 Speaker 3: if you have Joe Burrow or Saguon Barkley. 982 00:39:32,348 --> 00:39:34,028 Speaker 2: Good mon football,