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Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper's Square, presented by a hard rock bet.

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Speaker 1: the show that makes the squares Sharper, It makes the

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Speaker 1: wise guys pay attention. I am Chad Milman. I am

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Speaker 1: joined as always, buy my IDF Mike Companion, my padre

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Speaker 1: Mike co host professional better Simon Hunter. Hello, Simon, Chad.

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Speaker 2: How are we doing?

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Speaker 1: Listen? We're professionals. We're going to get through this week.

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Speaker 1: But I'm dragging. I'm not gonna lie to you. People

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Speaker 1: might hear it in my voice. Something's going on. All

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Speaker 1: I know is both of my kids came home from college.

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Speaker 1: Both of my kids are hacking up along. Both my

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Speaker 1: kids act like it's just gonna go away, And within

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Speaker 1: forty eight hours of them being home, I got something.

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Speaker 1: I don't like it. I don't like it one bit.

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Speaker 2: Hey, at least you got the Patriots, right, Chad? And

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Speaker 2: that that's all that matters the end of the day.

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Speaker 1: Oh I did, didn't I did?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? That was much needed, Thank God. Not gonna lie.

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Speaker 2: They got us in that first half. Roun I'm like,

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Speaker 2: oh no, this is that bad Patriots game. But we

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Speaker 2: had the QB luck go our way. Brother. We we

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Speaker 2: didn't have the injured QB and Drake May I think

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Speaker 2: he's back up to like plus one fifty plus one

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Speaker 2: twenty MVP play a game, you know what.

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Speaker 1: I was so not sweating it. After we did the

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Speaker 1: show on Sunday night, I went downstairs, I'm like, you

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Speaker 1: know what, the kids are home. I'm going to see

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Speaker 1: what they're doing if anyone will hang out with me.

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Speaker 1: So I played gin with my older son and I

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Speaker 1: didn't even like, I didn't even watch the game. Kicked

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Speaker 1: his ass by the way. He won the first couple

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Speaker 1: of games, and then I came back miraculous recovery. He

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Speaker 1: always loves when I talked trash h. I say that kiddingly.

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Speaker 1: He gets annoyed. And then it went to bed, like

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Speaker 1: I had a full eighty five year old.

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Speaker 2: Look harball. So that's how we won that game.

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Speaker 1: I had a full eighty five year olds. Evening on

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Speaker 1: Sunday night played jin, went to bed, woke up and

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Speaker 1: the Patriots had won and we were three and two,

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Speaker 1: and our favorite picks from Sunday morning, I think on

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Speaker 1: the year right now, we won with the Patriots, we

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Speaker 1: won with the Panthers we won with the Jags, lost

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Speaker 1: with the Lions and Bills. For the year forty five

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Speaker 1: and thirty five through sixteen weeks, another three and two

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Speaker 1: week in our Sharper Square Pick Them contest. This is

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Speaker 1: our Tuesday show. We're going to review the entire slate.

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Speaker 1: If you want our final Sunday picks, you got to

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Speaker 1: watch the Sunday Morning show Sharper Square on YouTube. Don't

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Speaker 1: get your pods. Simon, we got a whole crap load

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Speaker 1: of shitty backup quarterback Christmas Day games.

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Speaker 2: Ramon Opresk warm control.

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Speaker 1: Him, I forgive HER's about to look for. That's what

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Speaker 1: the NFL's given us this year. Three games on Christmas,

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Speaker 1: starting with Dallas at Washington. Washington's a six and a

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Speaker 1: half point underdog. We're getting Josh Johnson starting for the

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Speaker 1: Washington Commanders, and this line has moved from four and

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Speaker 1: a half to six and a half. The Cowboys are

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Speaker 1: out of the playoffs. Jerry Jones called this season a disappointment. Simon.

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Speaker 1: You shame them on Sunday is there a number that

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Speaker 2: It No, that feels like it's still a Cowboys number,

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Speaker 2: doesn't it too? I don't know. I feel like they

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Speaker 2: gotta keep going up. This is gonna be like you

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Speaker 2: I've grabbed the Cowboys numbers and Commanders to me come

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Speaker 2: This is a quarterback that I thought was totally out

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Speaker 2: This is the exact type of game Dak wins by

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Speaker 2: It's really unique. I think it's like one of the

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Speaker 2: Like I couldn't find any other team that's ever had

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Speaker 2: Well I got it bet at unfortunately, and I know

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Speaker 2: I'm just being bitter, and I should you are should

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Speaker 2: So stuff, it's tough. I will see it stinks is

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Speaker 2: You just expect their defense to do what they did

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Speaker 1: Your lack of enthusiasm for this game is hate that.

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Speaker 1: Take the game off, go to the movies. You want

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Speaker 2: Sounds like a nightmare to your boy. I'd much rather

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Speaker 1: Listen. I forgot to tell everybody at the top of

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Speaker 2: But we will not have to show a Boxing Day show.

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Speaker 1: We're doing a boxing Day show. Heada boxing Day all right.

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Speaker 1: The final game on Christmas another third string quarterbacks dot me.

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Speaker 1: If you've heard this before, the worst team will be

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Speaker 1: Here's a scenario right now. The Chiefs draft twelfth in

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Speaker 1: that is an astounding scenario for a team that is

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Speaker 1: going to get Patrick Mahomes back, that has not been

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Speaker 1: but I'm trying to find not just the talent to

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to lose six figures on all these

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Speaker 2: three teams moneyline parlay favorites, Like how are these dogs?

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Speaker 2: early nineteen eighties. They are seven to zero. Was a

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Speaker 1: I do like the idea of a triple D Dallas, Detroit,

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Speaker 2: Especially, I mean, it's if you lose it, my god,

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Speaker 1: the Texans. Chad's Choice presented by hard Rock Bet is

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Speaker 2: Are you willing to make a choice? What choice? We

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Speaker 1: I would just rather bet this defense as an underdog

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Speaker 2: so I'm with you, like the Texans here, it's a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen twos. I see one two and a

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Speaker 1: Money line Melman, that's what they call me. Baltimore at

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a game like again, if you have to make

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Speaker 2: because it's like you said, it could be Jordan love

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Speaker 2: and that just you know, he's been owt. The lineup

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Speaker 2: talking about, it's just how bad this Ravens defense has been.

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Speaker 2: And they're zero seven this season when they allowed twenty

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Speaker 2: all full or offense. The only other teams that are

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Speaker 2: This is a horrible group to be in. It's Raiders, Brown,

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Speaker 2: same exact class of the Ravens. It's just in our

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Speaker 2: It was just a total meltdown and you know, a

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Speaker 2: there was all this druma I'd been hearing behind you know, backstories.

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Speaker 2: Even since then, it's just been negative, negative stuff, coaches

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Speaker 2: You missed it. He basically took Derek Henry out of

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Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't see him personally because I was

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Speaker 1: motherfucker's onto the next give me the Texans and we're

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Speaker 1: going to rock and roll. That's how it is.

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Speaker 2: You're lucky guy. I had to eat to cinnamon when

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Speaker 2: I was that upset. No, No, I'm kidding. Just ate

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Speaker 1: Well, we got a lot of that going on, but

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Speaker 2: You're know, a lot of people were upset about me.

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Speaker 2: I didn't inflammation was. And the simple answer people is

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Speaker 2: I've never eating a vegetable. Why would I know what

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Speaker 1: Are you al Michaels?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't know. Last week we were talking about

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying is al Michaels has said he's never

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Speaker 2: Is that true? No? Oh my god, that's another guy

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Speaker 2: that they got to take behind the beyond the shed,

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Speaker 2: old yeller.

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Speaker 1: He's he's just a guy who eats steak and doesn't

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Speaker 2: Him not getting fired about that punt return just was haunting.

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Speaker 1: In that Rams game Seattle at Carolina. Carolina is a

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Speaker 2: Now, Simon says, give me the Seattle Seahawks minus seven.

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Speaker 1: I want to play a game, Simon says. Simon says,

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Speaker 1: I did try to find proof to sort of. I

430
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Speaker 1: didn't think you make the Simon says, but I knew

431
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: you were leaning this way just from the conversation on Sunday.

432
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 1: Over the past eight games, Panthers are one loss, one loss,

433
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,360
Speaker 1: one loss. They're four and four. Right, it's not even

434
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 1: a road home pattern. They've lost games at home. They

435
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,640
Speaker 1: have won games on the road. They have won games

436
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 1: at home. They have lost games on the road. I

437
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 1: need to hear the logic because outside of that pattern,

438
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 1: this has been a team that we love to bet

439
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,880
Speaker 1: as underdogs. We love to bet him as underdogs when

440
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 1: you're getting the hook, which is what we've been getting

441
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: all week until about this morning. So tell me, tell

442
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: me everything.

443
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 2: A lot of things jump out to this one. I

444
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 2: knew right away though this was going to be the

445
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 2: biggest public dog of the week. The public is going

446
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 2: to be all over this Bucks team, and it's it's

447
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 2: played out that way. We'll be interesting if this number

448
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 2: does go back up right now, Seahawks, do you have

449
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 2: a couple of guys injured and banged up on their defense,

450
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 2: so this number could keep coming down. I want to

451
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 2: grab it now just in case those guys do practice

452
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 2: and this gets cleared before Christmas. This could easily jump

453
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 2: back up to eight. It's not just a good a

454
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 2: good spot for the Seahawks team. Obviously, their defense travels

455
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 2: really well defensively, where you know. I can't say the

456
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: same for the Panthers. Their defense truly is up and down.

457
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 2: You really don't know what you're gonna get week to week.

458
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 2: Some weeks they can't stop the one they can't stop

459
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 2: the pass. It's it's a very updown team where Hucks

460
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 2: defense is much more consistent. This is really a Sam

461
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 2: Donald bit. This feels got Sam Donald absolute hammer spot

462
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 2: and you know Jackson Smith and Jig. But he saved

463
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 2: it last week, right, He really played well down the stretch,

464
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 2: but he was kind of misible for three quarters there.

465
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 2: He didn't really do much. And this is the type

466
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 2: of game where he does do his what he does

467
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 2: is one hundred and fifty yards, two touchdowns. And Sam

468
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 2: Donald's career, it's rare for him to be this big

469
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 2: of a favorite. We've seen it change though these last

470
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 2: two seasons with him the Vikings. Right, I think some posts,

471
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,479
Speaker 2: some stat I think he has the most wins as

472
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 2: a quarterback these last two seasons in the NFL, which

473
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 2: is pretty bizarre when you think of Sam Donald. But

474
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 2: twelve times his career he has been a starter as

475
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 2: a favorite of six points or more. He's twelve and

476
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 2: zh straight up, nine and three against the spreadent exact spot,

477
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 2: so tends to do really well. Is a big favorite.

478
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 2: And you know we've seen it time and time again.

479
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 2: This Panthers team, like I said, they do have weird

480
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 2: letdown spots. You know, I've given out the Mike McDonald's stats,

481
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 2: but I'll give it out again. It's early career, but

482
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 2: it's I told you, I just I've learned my lesson.

483
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 2: You got to back this man on the road. He

484
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: is ten and four against the spread. That is six

485
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 2: and two and one against the spread when he goes

486
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 2: to the East Coast. He's just always gets his teams up.

487
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 2: They play up to the moment, and especially you know

488
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 2: this game is you know, not that it doesn't matter

489
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 2: to Carolina. I do think this is gonna mean a

490
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 2: lot more to Shatto. With Carolina, they might be looking

491
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 2: ahead to next week in that Bucks team. So I

492
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 2: like this about a lot for shadows. You can tell

493
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 2: and we'll see if I'm gonna see what the pros

494
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 2: are saying. Obviously we up this upcoming week. But I

495
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 2: do feel like this is me at pros verstows the

496
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 2: public will be all over the Panthers and the professionals

497
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 2: will take the Seahawks.

498
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: I kind of like the idea of this.

499
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a it's a hard it's a very

500
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: hard Zach like I honestly, I knew right away I mean,

501
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 2: we're gonna love that number of the Panthers, but I

502
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 2: was like, no, they're trying to get me in Chad,

503
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 2: but we know we know what to do here, so

504
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 2: they can't get us. I hope you come to my side.

505
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 2: It's it's if you really have to dive into a

506
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 2: lot of the trends to to see what you see

507
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: with the Sea Ox team. They're just a great road team.

508
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 2: And Sam Donald's great is a big favorite, which is

509
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 2: something I never thought I would say. It's just when

510
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 2: I think of Seattle, I think a dominant home team,

511
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 2: but they're much better on the road.

512
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: I mean, they can't get us. You and I we're

513
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 1: too smart for them. We know they got me last night.

514
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie that colds. That opening drive touchdown

515
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: by Philip Rivers. I was going, hey, I'm running, not

516
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 2: running up and down the line in the book. But

517
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 2: I was just like, oh, greaty read by the boys,

518
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 2: because I, again I did not see it. I was like,

519
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 2: why am I betting all this money on this forty

520
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 2: year old quarterback? But it wasn't his fault. My man

521
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 2: was slinging.

522
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: Forty four And by the way, I didn't just bet

523
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: the Colts. I bet the Colts on the money line.

524
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.

525
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 1: So for like when it was fourteen fourteen, I'm like,

526
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 1: what is going on here? They're both going to score

527
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 1: fifty points. It's going to go back and forth. And

528
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: then the Colts just couldn't stop anybody, and I got embarrassing.

529
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: But look, Jacksonville was visiting the Indianapolis Colts. The Indianapolis

530
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: Colts are six and a half point home underdogs, second

531
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: week in a row. We both bet the Colts on

532
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: Monday night, and you know what, I have no regrets.

533
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: Like it was really fun for a while. Good for

534
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 1: brock Purty, Good for the Niners. They've got, I think,

535
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: the second chance to get the number one seed in

536
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,479
Speaker 1: the NFC right now. I love it because I got

537
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 1: a shitload of Super Bowl futures tied to the Niners.

538
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: But I will say this, and don't hate me. It's

539
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: time to bet the Colts again.

540
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: I know, I said, I think I took a little bit.

541
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 2: Sunny night, I said, I know we're gonna have supposed

542
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: to bet the Colts because it's just we expect such

543
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 2: a letdown from this Jaguars team. And yes, you know, yes,

544
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 2: watching that game last night, though, it's like, oh my god,

545
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 2: is this not going to be just Trevor Laurence thrown

546
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: against air. There's no they have no secondary. There's no secondary.

547
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 2: And the Colts and like the fact that they give

548
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 2: up two first round picks for Sauce, Like I know,

549
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to kick them other down, but my god,

550
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 2: Colts organization just just so brutal. You try to go

551
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 2: for it and it just falls on your face.

552
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: I don't blame them, but like there is I don't, but.

553
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 2: I'm just saying like they might have set themselves back

554
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: two three years because they believe in Daniel Jones and

555
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 2: it just all fell apart. It's just it just sucks.

556
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 2: As a football fan, I feel bad.

557
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 1: For him, but I do too, Like there's executive ineptitude.

558
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 1: I don't think this was it like as someone who's

559
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: been a manager, not to compare it to being like

560
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: an NFL executive, but still, like you work in media management,

561
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: sometimes you're gonna have to spend a lot of money

562
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: on people and go for big swings and sometimes they

563
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: work and sometimes they don't, And don't I don't begrudge

564
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: him making that trade, going all in trying to get

565
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: an elite defensive stopper who can shut down half the

566
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: field for you when you're in a division that has Jacksonville,

567
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: or in a division with Jacksonville, in a conference with

568
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, in a conference with Josh Allen, in a

569
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: conference with Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson, like, it was

570
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: the exact right positive ev move. Take a shot. You

571
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: never know when you're gonna get another chance again. None

572
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: of it is is the GM's fault. I feel terrible

573
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: for the guy you're an.

574
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: I'm the other way. I think even in the moment

575
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: I said that was a dumb trade, dumb move like

576
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: Sauce is not worth two First, he's not a shutdown

577
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: half the field type of corner. He's been lackluster since

578
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: he got all that money. He cares more about streaming

579
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: and was playing football. And that was just that's why

580
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,479
Speaker 2: it's totally scared when you have these gms that are

581
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 2: playing for their jobs, Like this is a guy that

582
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 2: has just had a ton of swing and missus. He

583
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 2: hit o Sandino Jones and he was going for one

584
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: more and he just totally missed. So you're you're a

585
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: very nice job. But I am just the other way.

586
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, you blew it. And that was a horrible,

587
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 2: horrible trade. So they were never that good. We knew

588
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: it was a lot of smoke screens and they've just

589
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: totally created once whatever happened with Taylor, to me, that

590
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: was the difference. Taylor just he was unstoppable for the

591
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: first eight weeks. Jonathan Taylor and whatever the NFL has

592
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 2: done the adjustments, maybe part of that is Daniel Jones,

593
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: but they stopped him. That's totally stopped this Colts team.

594
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,959
Speaker 2: But just a trends for this game chat are horrible

595
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: the Jags. We hammered the Jags the first time totally.

596
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: I'll give him out because people just forget I love

597
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 2: giving out these stats because they played twice a year

598
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 2: since twenty fifteen, Indy three seventeen and one against the

599
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 2: spread against this Jaguars team. Philip Rivers himself, he is

600
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: zero to two against the spread in the spot for

601
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 2: this Colts team Indy at home two seven and one

602
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: against this Jaguars teamsince twenty fifteen. It's just disastrous and

603
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: like shockingly, you know, Trevor Lawrence against his divisional opponents.

604
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 2: He's actually pretty good in his career. Seven to five

605
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: against the spread. You know, it's probably the biggest in

606
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: my mind, this is the biggest number I can remember

607
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence ever being on the road in his division.

608
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: So I went back and looked. He was minus six

609
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: against the Titans this season. If you remember that game,

610
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: he won twenty five to three. So I guess it's warranted.

611
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 2: Because this number jumped out to me. I couldn't believe

612
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: how big it was. It's like, yes, is the divisional game.

613
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 2: I'm shocked, it's big. They're begging me to take the Colts.

614
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: So they got Chad. That can see they got Chad.

615
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 2: I can't do it. That defense is just so bad.

616
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: So I want to bet the Colts. That was the

617
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,479
Speaker 2: funnest ride ever. Like you said, that first quarter, it

618
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 2: was alas it was. So I think I'm supposed to

619
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: bet the Jaguars here. I'll take all my pick pulls,

620
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: but I feel dirty. But maybe I'll bet the Colts

621
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: money line or something to make me feel not totally gross.

622
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 2: But I just think anything under seven feels like it's

623
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: a Jags number. They're good, Like again, I gotta give

624
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 2: them this Jacks team.

625
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: Is totally good.

626
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: They're really legit. Like I just I'm underestimated. My model

627
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: is as well. Even last week, like my mouth didn't

628
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: love them. I was just like, no, this is a

629
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: Jag spot. And yeah, this like Chad saying here, this

630
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: is the opposite of a Jack spot. This is a

631
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: total fade bet the Colts, and I just can't get there.

632
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 2: It's yeah, defense is so bad.

633
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: When a defense looks this bad in prime time, going

634
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: against a team that just opened the eyes of every

635
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:49,479
Speaker 1: NFL fan who was suspect of the Jags, this is

636
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: the spot. The only express to me, the only express

637
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: to me is that it hasn't gotten to seven, like,

638
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: and I think it will. I think the public will

639
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: come in on the Jags at some point this week.

640
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: And clearly hasn't been any resistance from the wise guys

641
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: because it hasn't moved off to six and a half.

642
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: So I think everyone's waiting for this to get to seven.

643
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and like again, I have so many stupid trends

644
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: for Trevor Lawrence too, off wins like eleven and four

645
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: against the spread, off a win of ten points or

646
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: more in his career twenty and thirteen ats off a

647
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,479
Speaker 2: win in his career. Like I know, he hasn't done

648
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: a lot of winning, but he just he tends. Like

649
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 2: I said last week, that's another reason we wanted to

650
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 2: take him. It's like, this guy keeps winning. It's whatever

651
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: it is. He has that type of momentum. It's it's crazy.

652
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Speaker 2: It's Jackson. I can't believe how I bought and I

653
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654
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Speaker 2: but I do think they're going to be a real

655
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656
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Speaker 2: It's a really fun team.

657
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658
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I just love their scheme so much.

659
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: We love Liam Khane all season. So all right, well

660
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Speaker 1: it's good to see you. Your New Orleans said, are

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Speaker 1: visiting the Tennessee Titans. The number was three. I bet

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Speaker 1: the Titans at plus three. It is now two and

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Speaker 1: on an ats heater the past five weeks, as have

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Speaker 1: the Saints. Titans are three and two. Both of these

696
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: offenses generally ranked near the bottom in every category. On defense,

697
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: the Saints are much better, even top ten in yards

698
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: per play, which we like a lot. But the one

699
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: weakness in their defense is their rush defense. And the

700
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: one strength for the Titans during this run, especially in

701
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: two of the past three games which they won outright,

702
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: has been Tony Pollard one sixty two on the ground,

703
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: one oh four on the ground, one oh two on

704
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: the ground. That's the one weakness for this New Orleans

705
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: Saints team. I know you want to tell me we

706
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: got it back. The Saints here I've already bet the Titans.

707
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: I don't see why we're not going to continue to

708
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: back the team that we used to not be able

709
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: to figure out, and now it's very clear this team

710
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: is a covering juggernaut. Mike McCoy probably is the coach

711
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: of the year in the second half of the years.

712
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: That's a bit much. And they are five and three

713
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: against the spread, like you've said, since they fired the

714
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 2: head coach. You know, they won two outright what these

715
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 2: last three weeks, so you know they have turned stuff around.

716
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 2: You got to get props to the coaching staff and

717
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: Cam Warden and he's been playing really well. You're you're

718
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: spot on this one. The pros, they're all over the Titans.

719
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 2: This is gonna be another pros Ris Jos Public is

720
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: gonna be hammering the Saints team. And yeah, it's tough

721
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 2: tough for me, especially because I'm all in on Shuck.

722
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 2: Like I have so many random future bets on it,

723
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: like on all different books. I found one that you'll love.

724
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll post it to Twitter because it is so hilarious.

725
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 2: I think it's like, I bet twenty bucks it's on Shuck.

726
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,479
Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year Ben Johnson Coach of the Year

727
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: and Miles Garrett to win the Defensive Player of the Year.

728
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 2: I think it's twenty bucks to win, like thirty four

729
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. No, yeah, I'll post it on Twitter or something.

730
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 2: It's insane, insane bet So now I'm like, really room

731
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 2: for Ben Johnson good coach of the year and obviously

732
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 2: shuck to hit this, but yeah, it's it's a bad spot.

733
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Speaker 2: Like you just said, this is say not. This is

734
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 2: not where you want to be back in the Saints team,

735
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: and I wish I was within the Titans. Early read

736
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 2: on the plus three that was definitely the number to

737
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 2: get because this the pros. There's gonna be a lot

738
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 2: of resists to buy, I think by the Pros getting

739
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 2: back up to three. So I'll be interest see where

740
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: this number ends up. But yeah, if you want to

741
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 2: join Chad to the professionals, you can bet the two

742
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 2: and a half. I am banned banned from betting Tennessee

743
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: Titan games, so I'm not gonna not gonna give out

744
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: a side, but if I was going to, I'd be

745
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: joining Chad on Tennessee. That's the ship.

746
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: You are a band from betting Tennessee Titans games. I

747
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: am too, but I don't care about bands. I drive

748
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: right through the bands. I'm not kind of renegade. Who

749
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: is the odds on favorite to win Coach of the

750
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: Year right now? I'm looking for the odds and.

751
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 2: Is uh plus one hundred?

752
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? Able? Yeah, it's a tough one.

753
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: I'll send uh, I'll send a picture that that to

754
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 2: you and Matt Mitchell in text right now because it

755
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 2: is hilarious. It's twenty books to win thirty four thousand.

756
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: That's crazy, that's crazy.

757
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: And the shuck was two one and now he is

758
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: three to one or four to one.

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00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that is nuts. That is totally nuts. Is he?

760
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: That is he that low right now? Jesus?

761
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just the hype train. It's like peeking. Oh

762
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: my god.

763
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, tedor Roll McMillan is three to one. Tyler Shock

764
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 1: is four to one. Jesus, that's insane.

765
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you never know. I'm a big Ben Johnson

766
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: shuck fan right now. That'd be an all timer if that.

767
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 1: Hits Arizona Cincinnati. Cincinnati is a seven point favorite.

768
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: No interest, no, lean, no, I think we're supposed to

769
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 2: keep taking Cincy and like you said, it's every week.

770
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 2: We've been getting good numbers on Arizona. Every week they

771
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 2: just totally lay eggs. So yeah, this could be the week, right,

772
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: this is a good match for them, Like they should

773
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: be able to move the ball, but Cincinnati in games

774
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,959
Speaker 2: where they show up and play out and Joe Brow

775
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: play as well. I think their defense is improved all season.

776
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 2: I think their offensive line improved all season, and you know,

777
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: Joe obviously just came back a little bit too late.

778
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: Like they're just one of those rare teams that their

779
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 2: whole season's over. But they feel like you know, obviously

780
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 2: they laid anag against Baltimore, but most weeks they've improved

781
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 2: the phelix every week. So I guess another chalk bet

782
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 2: I'll be on sinceive I don't feel good about it.

783
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh at Cleveland. Cleveland is down to three and a half,

784
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: so the line is moving in their direction. Yeah, obviously

785
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: Cleveland is where the wise guys are putting their money. Yeah,

786
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: you know, we have historically been betting the Browns when

787
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: they're at home with their defense. You want to fade

788
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin when he's a road favorite and they're not

789
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: the underdogs and he's not in the raw round Mike

790
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: Tomlin spot. We've said these lessons a million times, so

791
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: I give a very unenthusiastic Cleveland Browns take it, hold

792
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: your nose, but I don't see it being one of

793
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:00,479
Speaker 1: our five.

794
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 2: I did some very lazily. I shouldn't even say me.

795
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: I mean a guy that works when we actually do this.

796
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 2: I mean, go back and listen to our shows from

797
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 2: back in the day when we used to whenever the

798
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 2: Browns played the Steelers, because I just wanted to see,

799
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: did we always blindly just fade the Steelers share and we,

800
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: shockingly have. We basically every year we take the Browns

801
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 2: to the exact spot since we've been doing the show together.

802
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, now I have to look

803
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: up to see if that's actually worked for me and

804
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: trend that because I choose I saw us. I was like,

805
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: we must blindly bet this every year. There's never not

806
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 2: a time their dog because I think they have something

807
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: crazy right. It's like twenty three straight games the Browns

808
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: have lost outright against the Steelers on the road, but

809
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: at home. I was like, you know, I think it

810
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: is different. I did look it up they've won their

811
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 2: last they're five of their last six games at home.

812
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: The Browns have beat the Steelers outright, and they're actually

813
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 2: on a three game win streak covering streak at home,

814
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: this Browns team against Steelers. So it's been good to us.

815
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: We've been blindly betting this and it's been honestly working

816
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 2: out for us. And I'm just like you, It's like,

817
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 2: this is the exact time to go against Pittsburgh, total

818
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: letdown game against a Browns team that we talked about.

819
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: They got very lucky, right they had an end zone

820
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: dropped touchdown in a missed b pat they shouldn't have

821
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 2: covered last week, and I don't think it's being priced

822
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 2: as if they did either where It's like I feel like,

823
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 2: even if you know they they didn't cover, this number

824
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: is still what this is right now. I think the

825
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: pros came and hammered it, so I like anything above three, well,

826
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 2: we'll back this Brown steam here in a total leatdown

827
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 2: spot for this team. And you know, Pittsburgh dead has

828
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: been just like Carolina. They've been up and down all season.

829
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: It's really hard to get a read on them. So,

830
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 2: uh now, I don't know if I'll make our final five.

831
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 2: It could potentially because it is such a good number.

832
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 2: But Pittsburgh's been another team that feels like it's been

833
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 2: a tough read for me this season.

834
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: You made someone on your team listen to all of

835
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: our shows about these specific games going back to twenty nineteen.

836
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's easy because it's all time marked, like

837
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: Matt Mitchell used to put in when we would talk

838
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: about certain games, So all you have to do was

839
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 2: just fast ward. I just didn't feel like listening to myself, honestly,

840
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: so I was like, you got to do this. But yeah,

841
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 2: you think that's bad, It's that's easy. That's that's a

842
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: good day for that guy. Believe me, compared to other

843
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: stuff these guys have to do.

844
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: I might make my whole family listen to the show

845
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: on the way at the City on Thursday instead of clicks. Yeah,

846
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: instead of listening to the game, We're just going to

847
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: listen to Dad talk about the game. And I guarantee

848
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: what it will look like because you're a young bachelor

849
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: and don't have children, it will look like my nineteen

850
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: year old in the back with his air pods in

851
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: my twenty two year old in the back with his

852
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: AirPods in and my wife not listening to anything that

853
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: includes my voice, whether it's recorded or otherwise.

854
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 2: Honest, I'm with the gen zs there. I'm big into

855
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: headphones and cars. I don't know why. It's just my therapy.

856
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: Just good music. Listening to music while someone else is

857
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 2: driving around, it's a good one.

858
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: I want the communal experience. I want us to all

859
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: enjoy it together, especially especially me New England at the

860
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: New York Jets. Jets thirteen. This was thirteen and a half.

861
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: So it's come down a click. The team that just

862
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: creator versus the team that just had the huge emotional

863
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: win in prime time. The teams that are dogs on

864
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: a two plus game losing streak that are thirteen plus

865
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: points at home fifty seven percent against spread since nineteen

866
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 1: eighty nine, Thank you, Killer Sports. The Pats continue to

867
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: be banged ut Trevion Henderson concussion Snoop putt Ley did

868
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 1: move the ball against them? Am I squinting? Am I squinting?

869
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: To look for the opportunity with the Jets, Brady Cooks

870
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: going to be the quarterback again? What am I missing here?

871
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? If you're ben the Jets, you're literally bet on

872
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: a miracle, like that's what you're gonna need. The Patriots

873
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 2: are better than them and every every way possible. Like

874
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: the Jets, we knew they were a gutted team, right

875
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: They got rid of all their their star players, which

876
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 2: was again smart move by them. Honestly, I have liked

877
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 2: everything they'd done, except they're head coaching higher. Like when

878
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: you see a guy like Vrabel or Ben Johnson, you're

879
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: an owner, just pay the money for the guy, like

880
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: it just will never makes sense to me. It's like

881
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 2: these guys can change your whole franchise. Aaron Glenn, he's

882
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: a good guy, good DC. I don't know what he

883
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 2: does for them. He doesn't call the defensive plays like

884
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 2: I've talked about that. He just it's a very bizarre hiring.

885
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 2: And Chad's not wrong here. It's probably the right spot

886
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: to back the Jets. But after watching this kid cooks play,

887
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 2: I just he's not an NFL quarterback and he doesn't

888
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: have any weapons around him to make it any easier

889
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 2: for him. So Vrabel knows the deal. He'll he'll stack

890
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 2: the box, take away the run game, and make this

891
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: kid try to put the ball downfield in that's a disaster.

892
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: You've seen this Patriot secondary. Eve though they'ved a bunch

893
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 2: of injuries, they do turn the ball over. They are

894
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 2: a pretty good secondary. Yeah, I know how much you

895
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: love Chris Gonzales, so already off the field's gone. So

896
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: it's it's just a unique spot. Mike Vrabel against you know,

897
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: teams under five hundred in his career twenty nine to

898
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 2: seventeen against the spread. So he does well against really

899
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 2: bad teams. We already know that about Rabel and this

900
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: is no different. This is a very bad Jets team.

901
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 2: So if you want to back the Jets and just

902
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 2: simply blind it because the number is so big, get it.

903
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 2: But anything under fourteen, I think is okay for me

904
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: to take Patriots.

905
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: Wow.

906
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now the Jets are awful. They're just they're just bad.

907
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: I mean, they're truly terrible. No, I completely agree.

908
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 2: It's just you're betting the number. If you're been in

909
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 2: the Jets, are simply just bet the number.

910
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 1: Such a big number. Yeah, Tampa Bay at Miami. I

911
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: have no reason to say I like the Dolphins Dolphins

912
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: other than I don't know if the Bucks can cover

913
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: a big number right now, Like there's no there's no indication.

914
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 1: But a lot of times when you're betting, you're betting

915
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: on the evidence of things unseen. Right, we have a

916
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: lot of evidence for the Buccaneers of things we've seen

917
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: where this team consistently shoots itself in the foot and

918
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 1: isn't able to execute and out maneuver teams, especially teams

919
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: that are worse than them. And so I don't want

920
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 1: to bet the Dolphins, but I'm not betting the bus,

921
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: and I probably be more inclined to take the home

922
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: dog here when everybody is going to be riding the

923
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: real favorite.

924
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough, Like there's so many games are just

925
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: so gross you hate and you know you have to

926
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 2: do though, And that's what he's so brutal about, Like

927
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: we know we're half about the Dolphins and you know

928
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 2: the Bucks. I gave up that crazy stat that I

929
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: got from Memory Adams. It was like, you know, I

930
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: think this is their first seven game ATS losing streak

931
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: since like nineteen eighty three or eighty two, Like this

932
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 2: just does not happen the Bucks franchise. And we've made

933
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: millions of excuses because we're both big, big Baker fans

934
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: and you know, he is clearly has some type of injury,

935
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 2: but you can't you can't deny these numbers. I mean,

936
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 2: the guy has just been terrible. He's thirty seven of

937
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: thirty nine quarterbacks and completion percentage since that Week eight

938
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 2: game or Week seven game against the Lions, and that's

939
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 2: when we all think he got hurt. He just has

940
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: been terrible. He's thirty six of thirty nine qbs and

941
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 2: EPA per play. He's just horrible right now. It's we're

942
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 2: just not used to it because then the first couple

943
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 2: of weeks he was like a top three, top four MVP,

944
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 2: Candy To type of guy. And he's been anything about

945
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: these last couple of weeks. So, like you said, this

946
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: is too big of a number. Miami. They can still

947
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 2: run the ball. We saw that last week in Cincinnati.

948
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 2: They were able to move the ball. Eventually, this the

949
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 2: wheels came off because Joe Burrow was just in kill mode.

950
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: He just could not stop missing. So, you know, Bucks

951
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: get a right spot, this is exactly where they should

952
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 2: get right blow out this Dolphins team. But it's hard

953
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 2: to have any type of faith. Then they just have

954
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 2: looked totally lost this season.

955
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: I feel like we're non committed on that game.

956
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 2: I'm betting the Dolphins, but I am not committed in

957
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 2: the sense that, like you're talking about, have to put

958
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 2: real money into this Dolphins team that look like they

959
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: totally quit last week. I'm not doing it, Like I

960
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 2: am not putting my money. But for my pick pulls,

961
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 2: I have to make a pick.

962
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: I'll take Dolphins, New York Giants at Las Vegas Raiders.

963
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: The Raiders are one and a half point favors right now.

964
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 1: This is the battle for the number one overall pick.

965
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 1: So the Giants, they have a QB. We think they

966
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: have a receiver in neighbors. They have the front four,

967
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: they have all pro left tackle. If they keep the

968
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: number one, they can trade down and get so much

969
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: more of what they need. If the Raiders lose and

970
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: get the number one, they can draft Fernando Mendoza or

971
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: Dante More. They definitely need to get that quarterback. So

972
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: what are we ultimately betting on here? Are we betting

973
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: on both teams trying? Are we betting on one of

974
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: the teams not trying? Are we betting on the management

975
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 1: recognizing the value to their franchise of the number one pick?

976
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: Are we going to get a Lovey Smith with the

977
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: Texans two years ago, three years ago, and all of

978
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: a sudden, he decides, screw it, screw the franchise, screw management.

979
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: My team's going to win and they end up losing

980
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: the overall number one pick. Like, I don't know what

981
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: we're betting on here, motivation or talent?

982
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean, man, Mitchell was giving us his

983
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 2: speel before the show about how this is like a

984
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 2: Raiders team that they want to win. They're going to

985
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 2: try to one with the Giants. Really don't care. I

986
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 2: see both sides of it, though. If you're Jackson Dart,

987
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 2: why take the risk? If it's you and you know,

988
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 2: if your team has a number one pick, they could

989
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 2: take Mendoza. They were. There's a tide to him, like

990
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 2: he's the twenty second pick. It wasn't like he was

991
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 2: a top one, top two pick. Guys had multiple concussions already,

992
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 2: his rookie year has been in and out of the lineup.

993
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 2: If I was him, my god, do I think in

994
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 2: my mind I need to win this game. I can't

995
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: let that even become an option and this Raiders team.

996
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 2: I agree with Matt though, that, like you know Pete

997
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: Carroll does not care about the future. I think he

998
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 2: knows he's on the way out. Saying with Gino Smith,

999
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: I think they're playing for future endeavors, so I think

1000
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 2: they'll try to win, and you know, luckily there are

1001
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 2: some stats here even though this is historically horrible, Like

1002
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 2: this is so rare to both teams two and thirteen

1003
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 2: playing this late in the season since nineteen ninety when

1004
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 2: both teams have a win percentage less than thirteen percent.

1005
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 2: So we've seen four matchups since the exact time, and

1006
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 2: week eleven or later, the home team is four and

1007
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 2: oh straight up historically in this spot, so there is

1008
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 2: some story they did a backup as well. The Raiders.

1009
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: This is technically a good's about to take them, right,

1010
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 2: the worst team at home that are both terrible teams

1011
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 2: tend to show up and play hard on the other team.

1012
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 2: That's just why wouldn't they have given up? Right the Giants,

1013
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: It's uh, it's it's totally over for them. Defensively, I

1014
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 2: mean they still like Burns, all these guys they're playing

1015
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 2: for incentives tough that, but offensively that that was so

1016
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 2: bizarre last week. I'm having I think it's so bizarre

1017
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 2: pass the ball thirteen times, I'm I'm of them. I

1018
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 2: guess I'll be on the Raiders and that's gonna end

1019
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: up being another super public favorite. Just look at the

1020
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 2: money right now, it's all the money, all the tickets

1021
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 2: are on the Raiders. So I agree with it. So

1022
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: we'll see what this number goes. If it doesn't budge,

1023
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 2: maybe I could talk our way out of it comes Sunday.

1024
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 2: But this feels like under three at home Raiders. If

1025
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,760
Speaker 2: this is not the time we take them in the contest,

1026
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 2: I don't know when there is.

1027
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: Oh god, that is they're like, of all the grossness

1028
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: that's happening, that feels like the grossest thing you've said today.

1029
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I don't enjoy it either, but it just

1030
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 2: feels like they're the veteran team and somewhat and we

1031
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 2: saw last week they can move the ball offensively. With

1032
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 2: this this Giants team looks like they've totally packed it in.

1033
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: Well, look, Matt Mitchell said it before the show. Pete

1034
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: Carroll doesn't feel like the guy who tanks, right, and

1035
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: he also could give a shit if he gets fired.

1036
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: So and if he gets fired, losing the number one

1037
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,720
Speaker 1: pick on the way at the door, unless Tom Brady

1038
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: calls him and he's like, dude, do not fuck this

1039
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: up for me. I want to get Fernando Mendoza Philadelphia

1040
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: at Buffalo. Buffalo. It's moving in the in the Eagles direction.

1041
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: It was two and a half. I like the Bills here.

1042
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: I don't think the Eagles can stop their run game.

1043
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: I think the Bills have more to play for. I

1044
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 1: think there's still injury issues for the Eagles, who have clinched.

1045
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: They can't get the number one seed. Like I want

1046
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: to play the Bills. I'm surprised the number is moving

1047
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: against them right now.

1048
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 2: Me too, honestly, just because I see no reason why

1049
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 2: the Eagles would even try in this game. They just

1050
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 2: feel like they're locked in. They're a team that's had

1051
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: injuries all season. Why not rest a lot of key guys.

1052
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 2: It's just you can use these next two weeks the

1053
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 2: rest guys. But you know, the pros maybe just view

1054
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 2: what I I think most of us know. I know

1055
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 2: the Bills have looked better, but honestly, when you break

1056
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 2: this down, the Eagles are much better than this Bills team.

1057
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: Much better. They look like we were worried about Mariota

1058
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: as a mobile QB against the Eagles defense, and it

1059
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 1: was playing out exactly that way.

1060
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1061
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: What about what about with Josh Allen?

1062
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, it's shocking. Josh Allen. You know, he dominates everyone.

1063
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 2: I think the Eagles are the only team in his

1064
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: career he's never beaten. He's owned two straight up oz

1065
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 2: and to two against the spreading his career. But I'm

1066
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,959
Speaker 2: like you, it's like the Eagles, what are they playing

1067
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 2: for on the flip side of the Bills. They want

1068
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 2: to roll and destroy this team. Yeah, and they're the

1069
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 2: best running team of football. The should be able to

1070
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 2: run all over this Eagles team that has been suspect

1071
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 2: against the run all season. And you know, I just

1072
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 2: I don't really, I'm like you, I don't not get

1073
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 2: this one. The pros they're coming in heavy on this

1074
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 2: ego side. Like the snumber was up to three to

1075
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 2: a bunch of books, now it's I'm seeing a bunch

1076
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 2: of one and a halfs pop up. So I bet

1077
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 2: maybe there's injury, maybe there's an injury or missing brother.

1078
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 2: But I'm with you, it's like one and a half.

1079
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 2: You can get that right on the Bills. I am

1080
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 2: all over that number. I just think the Bills could

1081
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: easily blow out this Egos team here.

1082
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet the two and a half because yesterday

1083
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: it looked like it was going to three. I wanted

1084
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: to grab it, and then I looked this morning, I'm

1085
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: like one and a half. What do I miss?

1086
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 2: Here? And Bills, I'll give them this. They're five and

1087
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 2: zero against the spread this season. They faced teams above

1088
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 2: five hundred, so you know they've done they've done well

1089
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: when they play against really good teams. That's also a

1090
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 2: little skew too. But wait, that's not true because I

1091
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 2: remember that they lost to the Patriots. Yeah, so yeah,

1092
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: I don't know why that trends.

1093
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know where you're getting your

1094
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: facts alternative facts from Simon Hunter.

1095
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 2: Right now, Egos. On the flip side, they are three

1096
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 2: and six when they're on the road since twenty twenty

1097
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 2: playing against a team that is above five hundred, zero

1098
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,919
Speaker 2: and six when they have won and covered the previous game.

1099
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 2: So it's a weird spot for this sequence team. They

1100
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 2: tend to have letdowns in the following games on the

1101
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 2: road back to back.

1102
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: Simon Hunter, Remember the mainstream media just making stuff up unbelievable.

1103
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it under.

1104
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 2: Of the bus. But I didn't make that start up, obviously,

1105
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 2: I got them from someone else.

1106
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. I'm just kidding and making fun of the

1107
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: mainstream media. Primetime spotlight, let's focus on these standalone games,

1108
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 1: because we get to see our favorite team, the Chicago Bears,

1109
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: rolling into the Bay Area to play the San Francisco

1110
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers, who were a three point favorite. You

1111
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: loved the Bears on Sunday night, yep, After last night,

1112
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: how do we feel about fading the Niners? Looking so perfect,

1113
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: looking so party perfect? In primetime? Five touchdowns for black

1114
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: Party team looked great. Colts couldn't stop here. I was

1115
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: just gonna say, it feels like the exact time you

1116
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: want to fade the Niners.

1117
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 2: And my fantasy team appreciated that Black Purdy. But my god,

1118
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 2: this man literally put a bar soap into a sock

1119
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 2: and beat the shit out of me last night. Every

1120
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,919
Speaker 2: time he dropped back and it was like thirty seven

1121
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 2: or thirty and eight, I knew he had a completion.

1122
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 2: I knew it was gonna be for ten or fifteen yards.

1123
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 2: And anytime they're in the red zone. I knew it

1124
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 2: was somehow gonna be a touchdown. I mean, we got

1125
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 2: super lucky. They had a touchdown not called a touchdown,

1126
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 2: and he just had a wide open dump off to

1127
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 2: McCaffrey for a touchdown. It's like Colts, if there's a

1128
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 2: guy to cover in the red zone, I'd say McCaffrey's

1129
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 2: number one. Just double them.

1130
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: It was astonishing how infrequently they were able to cover

1131
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: anybody on the field. Again, I went to bed at halftime,

1132
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: so whatever, but it was weird how wide open guys were.

1133
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 2: Uh. I don't know, I am a sucker here, but

1134
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 2: I feel like we're supposed to be betting the Bears

1135
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 2: a bit harder. But brock Purty, since he's come back

1136
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 2: from injury and replaced mac Jones, he heard the haters

1137
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 2: like me, he heard the noise saying, get rid of party,

1138
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 2: get back on the cheap. They're not that much difference,

1139
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 2: which the numbers bear it out. But the man is

1140
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 2: five and zero straight up and against the spread. Since

1141
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 2: he's coming back, he's been an absolute toward to force

1142
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 2: brock Purty. So I don't know what to do, Chad,

1143
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 2: Like this just feels like the time to take them.

1144
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 2: But unfortunately, all the trends, all the numbers say otherwise.

1145
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 2: So teams on eight days rest or more who are

1146
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 2: an underdog twelve and thirty nine straight up twelve and

1147
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 2: twenty nine against the spread dating back to twenty two

1148
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 2: thousand and three. It's not ideal. It's not the best spot,

1149
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 2: I guess for this Bears team, but I do feel

1150
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 2: like that has to help them, right They're they're on

1151
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 2: extended prep the Niners on our shirt week. It's just

1152
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 2: maybe I'm just too like I said, tune love with

1153
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 2: this Bears team. They've just always covered this number for

1154
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 2: me this season, right, They've been in Every game is close,

1155
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 2: So like you said, it feels like the exact time fade.

1156
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 2: The Niners don't rush the window though. We might be

1157
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 2: able to get a three and a half, just like

1158
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 2: we saw with that Ravens number in the Patriots. That

1159
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 2: number got the three and a half, Jaguars got the

1160
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 2: three and a half. So we've seen some of these

1161
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 2: numbers do bump up. I'm missing grab it right now

1162
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 2: just in case it does drop two and a half.

1163
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 2: But I just I see professionals coming on a Niner team.

1164
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 2: They're just such a well owned machine, and you know

1165
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 2: the deal, Chad. Your defense it's been held together with

1166
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 2: bubble gum and tape. It's like your secondary so banged up.

1167
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 2: But I said it, this Niners team, their defense is

1168
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 2: banged up too, and you saw Rivers was tearing them up.

1169
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 2: So I just feel like it's gonna be another back

1170
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 2: and forth and the Bears they get turnovers, they get stops.

1171
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 2: I just it's the number. I can't help it. If

1172
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 2: it was two and a half, I could see maybe

1173
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 2: me being more towards this Niners team. But three, three

1174
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 2: and a half, that's what I'm beat with this Bears team.

1175
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: Well, look, the one of the reasons we liked the

1176
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:53,439
Speaker 1: Colts last night is because we expected a Jonathan Taylor game.

1177
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers rushes defense just isn't very good,

1178
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: and so if the Bears can execute on the ground

1179
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: the way they have been all year, that could mitigate

1180
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: a lot of the defensive issues of the Bears have

1181
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: because they'll control the clock for a little bit longer

1182
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: than I think the Colts were able to last night.

1183
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: And by the way, there were so many throws where

1184
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, you know, he was even a bowling ball,

1185
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: and it was just not getting where it needed to be.

1186
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 1: Those are throws that Caleb Williams can make. So I

1187
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: have reason to believe in the Chicago Bears. Do we

1188
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: have reason to believe in the Atlanta Falcons. The number

1189
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: has moved against the Rams Monina Football from eight and

1190
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: a half down to eight, So the wise guys are

1191
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: betting the Falcons. I can see it like they have

1192
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: been much much better with Kirk Cousins. They just have

1193
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: right and so and even last week, like they struggled

1194
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: against Arizona in the first half, then they pulled away.

1195
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: They kept Arizona at bay. They didn't let him get

1196
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: that back door. You know, it'll be the kind of

1197
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: game where it's going to be fast on turf, indoors.

1198
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: Big number for the Rams. I feel like you're gonna

1199
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: tell me Sean McVay in December.

1200
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 2: There you go, good man. There's nothing but there's nothing

1201
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 2: but cover for us. Last week, the refs they tried

1202
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 2: their best, Chad, they tried so hard to not let

1203
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 2: us cover that Rams number. We still got there. The

1204
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 2: plus one and a half just incredible. Yeah, it's McVeigh

1205
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 2: in December and even better it's McVeigh after a loss

1206
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 2: in December, which is very rare, just the fact that

1207
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 2: it's off a loss. McVeigh in his career thirty two

1208
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 2: and nineteen against the spread off a loss. It is

1209
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 2: the best record for any head coach since he ended

1210
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 2: the league in twenty seventeen. Even better when he's off

1211
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 2: a loss playing at night. He's eight and four against

1212
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 2: the spread in his career, so tends to back it

1213
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 2: up in the sense that they lose games. I mean,

1214
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 2: that was insane, Like to me, A guy was shocked

1215
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 2: to my model had this at ten and a half.

1216
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 2: The more I think about it more it makes sense, right,

1217
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 2: they should have won. That's yeah, ten ten and a half.

1218
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 2: I mean that just never in our lifetime. We may

1219
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 2: never see a team, you know, ten minutes later get

1220
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 2: a two point gone their way because a guy picked

1221
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 2: up a football after the whistle, which I know people

1222
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 2: are complaining a lot of people in the sports worker complaining,

1223
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 2: and I was shocked to I had to google it.

1224
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 2: They changed a rule I guess in like two thousand

1225
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 2: and nine that on a play like that doesn't matter

1226
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 2: if the whistle is blown, the play is not dead.

1227
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 2: So I know people are upset about that, but it's

1228
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 2: like it doesn't matter. Like you know, every other play

1229
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 2: in football matters. If the whistle's blown. It doesn't matter

1230
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 2: on that exact play a forward pass, It does not

1231
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 2: matter if our backward pass, I should say, it does

1232
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 2: not matter if the whistle is blown. So I was

1233
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 2: again losing my mind because I was like, that whistle blew,

1234
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 2: that's a dead play that two pointers should not counted.

1235
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 2: So this feels like a weird number. The Rams are

1236
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 2: being punshed a little bit, Like you said, this is

1237
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 2: gonna be very public. Another all Joe all the Joe's

1238
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 2: are going to be just lining up betting this Rams team.

1239
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 2: They're gonna be in every Parla moneyline bet. Just you

1240
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 2: expect them to bounce back and obviously dominate this Atlanta

1241
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 2: team that they're another team that they've been being up on.

1242
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 2: It feels like bad teams here. Now they're playing what

1243
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 2: I think is the class at the NFC. So you know,

1244
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 2: Chad set out the top McVeigh December. It's what is it,

1245
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 2: two and o already this month so far, it gets

1246
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 2: the spread. It's it's been covering. I'm gonna keep rying.

1247
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 2: I just love McVeigh here and this Rams team.

1248
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: All right, Look, we got a lot to decipher on Friday.

1249
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: Don't forget. We will be back on Friday. Everyone, please

1250
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: enjoy a safe, happy Mary Christmas. Enjoy the games, Enjoy

1251
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: your families, Enjoy whatever you're going to be doing wherever

1252
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: you're going to be doing it. We're coming back for

1253
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: Boxing Day. Simon says was surprisingly Seattle minus seven on

1254
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: the road against Carolina. Chad's choice was Houston plus two.

1255
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: If you can get a two and a half, there

1256
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: are some available, go get it. We got a lot

1257
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: of games to discuss us over Saturday and Sunday. When

1258
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:05,959
Speaker 1: we get back to it on Friday. Ho ho ho

1259
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 1: to my bff Simon, Merry Christmas. To our producer Matt

1260
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: Mitchell and his family. Merry Christmas. This has been Sharper Square,

1261
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,720
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1262
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,080
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1263
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,360
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1264
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,040
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1267
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1268
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1269
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