Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast, quit the small talk, indeed,
Speaker 1: quit it, don't need it, don't want it, and Welcome
Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My
Speaker 1: name is Dan Hands, come to you from a virtual
Speaker 1: room filled with the heroes, Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal. We
Speaker 1: are key minus seven days away from the NFL Draft. Greg,
Speaker 1: you a little bit of a sneaky, humble brag right
Speaker 1: before we started, mentioned that every year you like to
Speaker 1: do a hardcore cram sesh, uh, just chewing up tape
Speaker 1: like a true, true tape dog. I, on the other hand,
Speaker 1: like to go the route of just see whoever's mock
Speaker 1: drafts I respect, and then base my analysis on where
Speaker 1: those guys put certain players, and then once the NFL starts,
Speaker 1: then I can plug in in a real way. I
Speaker 1: there's no way to fake it. I mean, but I
Speaker 1: respect that you do with Greg, but it's it's kind
Speaker 1: of like in school cramming for a chemistry final that
Speaker 1: if you didn't pay attention all year, you're not really
Speaker 1: going to be able to soak in the information in
Speaker 1: a way that makes you successful. Yeah or n Yeah,
Speaker 1: Because the difference between someone faking it and not is yeah,
Speaker 1: almost indistinguishable. Most of most of the people talking about
Speaker 1: the draft are faking it, but it does. It gives you,
Speaker 1: like a little bit of fire beneath your Joe Mixon tape,
Speaker 1: for instance, I remember I watched him. I was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: this Joe Mixing guy. Okay, he's got some problems, but
Speaker 1: my god, could he run the ball. And so you've
Speaker 1: got a little extra fire. But you could fake that
Speaker 1: too if you really wanted to. Of all the examples,
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon considering his pre draft buzz, you know what
Speaker 1: I gotta say, I was right, be careful he's I
Speaker 1: was right that he is a great running player running back.
Speaker 1: You mentioned about cramming for a test? Am I the
Speaker 1: only one that like, Um, I've been having horrible dreams
Speaker 1: for some reason, but like I still have dreams where
Speaker 1: I am, you know, walking towards like a college math
Speaker 1: class where I suddenly realized I have a final and
Speaker 1: I've not been to even been to the class um
Speaker 1: in three or four months, and like all fortunes are
Speaker 1: about to get completely ripped away if I don't ace
Speaker 1: this thing um and then the dream end. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: That's a common one, doesn't it feel good? Though I
Speaker 1: everyone since it feel I'll have a dream like that,
Speaker 1: or it will occur to me, Oh, isn't it nice
Speaker 1: that we never have to study for a test ever
Speaker 1: again or have that sort of stress. So you should
Speaker 1: just like appreciate it. It's nice, and I'll and I'll say,
Speaker 1: although it you know, you pay for it with a
Speaker 1: lot of internal mental anguish in the moment when you
Speaker 1: make a list of the sneaky best feelings in life.
Speaker 1: Waking up from a nightmare and then realizing none of
Speaker 1: that was happening, and then you go back to sleep,
Speaker 1: that's right near the top of the way. It is special.
Speaker 1: I had one last night where I was in an
Speaker 1: airport and there was all sorts of chaos. I couldn't
Speaker 1: find my wallet and so I couldn't board the plane
Speaker 1: with the rest of my family, and I was lying
Speaker 1: on the floor with all these people being inspected by
Speaker 1: the government. And then I woke up and I was like,
Speaker 1: why wallets on the mantel in our house? This is amazing,
Speaker 1: so much for a quit it with the small talk,
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, that's true. That's true. By the way.
Speaker 1: The the inverse um of what I just explained is
Speaker 1: when you're having like a lovely dream, like if you
Speaker 1: if you remember, like you were dreaming about you were
Speaker 1: dating your high school crush and your seventeen and then
Speaker 1: you wake up and you're terribly alone and you have
Speaker 1: acne and you know nobody likes you like that. There's
Speaker 1: there's the flip side as well, but I like to
Speaker 1: focus on the positives. This is the Around the NFL podcast.
Speaker 1: I wasn't a sad and alone person in high school,
Speaker 1: by the way. It wasn't one of those people. But
Speaker 1: I didn't really figure out anything until college, and you
Speaker 1: saved yourself at the end. I was a little worried
Speaker 1: that you woke up from this dream where you wish
Speaker 1: you were with your high school girlfriend. Then you woke
Speaker 1: up and you realize, oh, I'm next to my wife
Speaker 1: and my kids are I mean, those dreams exist to
Speaker 1: past flames pop up for the first time in eleven years,
Speaker 1: But it doesn't mean that I'm questioning anything. Mark has
Speaker 1: these dreams all the time, and it's smart. If you're listening,
Speaker 1: Happy Birthday. They're about freedom and no, you're right, it
Speaker 1: is my wife's birthday tomorrow, so we don't need to
Speaker 1: dig deeper into that topic necessarily. All right, today's show,
Speaker 1: we're gonna catch up on some predraft news and uh none,
Speaker 1: We're gonna do something we haven't done in a while,
Speaker 1: which has hit the mail bag, and give the listeners
Speaker 1: a chance to interface with us. The quote unquote heroes.
Speaker 1: What a joke call ourselves heroes. The real heroes are
Speaker 1: out there up on the lattice putting out fires in
Speaker 1: the military. You ain't heroes. That's a great sweet to
Speaker 1: get every once in a while. How about your relax
Speaker 1: you know, how about you? You just have a little
Speaker 1: bit of a sense of humor about life. Okay, here's
Speaker 1: something I portable though, when when like Siciliano or any
Speaker 1: really host like welcomes us as a group as heroes,
Speaker 1: like I like it when we call ourselves that that works.
Speaker 1: I mean the other side of that is Greg, You're
Speaker 1: almost always uncomfortable. So no, that's just the brand is strong.
Speaker 1: Let's do some news talk is cheap, motherfucker. Is it
Speaker 1: random that DMX is our intro into the news, Yes,
Speaker 1: it's random, But I wanted to touch on him real
Speaker 1: quickly because in the pre show prep today, um, I
Speaker 1: was thinking about the Steelers quarterback depth chart a little
Speaker 1: teaser for the mail bag later, and for some reason
Speaker 1: it made me. The thing that can't flash to my
Speaker 1: mind was it's dark and hell is hot, um and
Speaker 1: rest in peace, d MX. And I just want to say,
Speaker 1: like DMX was he's he falls under the category of
Speaker 1: whether it's like a celebrity, a musician usually for me,
Speaker 1: but sometimes an actor. Um, where they die and then
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I really did like that person. I
Speaker 1: wish I appreciated them more before they died. Because if
Speaker 1: you were a person of a certain age and Greg,
Speaker 1: you and I are very close in age, Mark, you're
Speaker 1: in the ballpark. Um, it's a big ballpark. It's like
Speaker 1: old Yankee Stadium when they put Monument Park in center field.
Speaker 1: But like it, DMX filled a certain level of like
Speaker 1: when you're a teen a late teen, high school college
Speaker 1: and you have that aggression inside you and if if
Speaker 1: you're our age, Um, it was either DMX or like
Speaker 1: Limp Biscuit and together a tour that was that they
Speaker 1: were like co headliners and and that's synergy. That makes sense.
Speaker 1: But I was never about any of that aggro rap
Speaker 1: rock stuff. I hated that stuff so much. But DMX
Speaker 1: when he was going and the stuff that he was
Speaker 1: talking about, I'd always connected with me. You know, he
Speaker 1: crossed lines black white whatever. You understood the rage within
Speaker 1: DMX because some of us and all of us have
Speaker 1: it to a certain extent. He changed the game, you know,
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift taking a page out of his notebook. I
Speaker 1: don't remember anyone else dropping to number one albums in
Speaker 1: the same year. That was like that kind of blew
Speaker 1: people's mind that he came out out of nowhere. It
Speaker 1: was like the number one album in the country, and
Speaker 1: then like seven months later did it again. It's like that.
Speaker 1: I feel like people do that all the time now.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're acting like my equivalent was like Desi
Speaker 1: ar Nett. So I don't know how to get into
Speaker 1: this conversation, but I appreciate what you're saying. I would
Speaker 1: say maybe like told the wets Rocket perhaps or I
Speaker 1: could not stand that band. But but but in that
Speaker 1: but at that time period had other bands that would
Speaker 1: fit the bill to some degree. I was gonna ask
Speaker 1: as a follow up, Greg because as everyone knows, Uh,
Speaker 1: Greg likes rap Um. Sometimes you you act about you
Speaker 1: talk about your two lane uh education as being in
Speaker 1: this bubble where it's like all like dirty South and
Speaker 1: you don't even know what Fountains of Wayne was, and
Speaker 1: you were so just like steeped in that culture. DMX
Speaker 1: made it down there, you're saying, because he was. He's
Speaker 1: from Yonkers, which is on the other side of the
Speaker 1: Tez Bridge where I grew up. He was huge in
Speaker 1: the Northeast and I think the whole country, but didn't
Speaker 1: make it down there that the bubble. He maybe not
Speaker 1: as dominant, but he did. Yes, there was a bit
Speaker 1: of a South South versus the New York type of
Speaker 1: things that they didn't give him all the love that
Speaker 1: he should have gotten. Interesting, all right, let's get into it.
Speaker 1: Do some news. Let's start with rule changes made in
Speaker 1: the NFL. They go into effect, uh, starting in the
Speaker 1: seas and we kind of went over this um when
Speaker 1: they a lot of them were proposed. But just so
Speaker 1: everyone knows, um, there's been changes to a well relaxation
Speaker 1: of rules for the numbers that certain players can wear
Speaker 1: at certain positions. That's a big one. Everybody's pumped up
Speaker 1: about that. Running backs, wide receivers, tight ends, defensive backs
Speaker 1: and linebackers can all wear numbers in the single digits
Speaker 1: now if they choose, um, the only person who's really
Speaker 1: getting banked here. Offensive linemen are still locked into the
Speaker 1: old days on this one. Um Tom Brady on social media,
Speaker 1: and we never know if Tom Brady is actually running
Speaker 1: his own social media or whatever. But he was all
Speaker 1: fired up about it. Couldn't tell if he was being
Speaker 1: a jokester or what mark. Do you have any takes
Speaker 1: on more of fluidity in the numbers choosing game in
Speaker 1: the NFL? Well, I would just um comment on Brady
Speaker 1: real quick. Did he put out a second um diet
Speaker 1: tribe where he said, why not let the lineman wear
Speaker 1: whatever they want to? Why have numbers just have colored jerseys?
Speaker 1: Why not wear the same numbers dot dot dot dum
Speaker 1: at NFL at NFL p A and then above it
Speaker 1: all in massive type font dumb again. So I don't
Speaker 1: view that to be like some social media goon as drunk. Again,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not sure what's going on there.
Speaker 1: He seems fired up, but I don't, you know, I'd
Speaker 1: love to hear a player's perspective on why that would matter.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're if you're an offensive guy trying
Speaker 1: to figure out who to block and call protections. I
Speaker 1: don't see a huge change here other than the fact
Speaker 1: that like for me m visually like if a linebacker
Speaker 1: we're number two, I find that to be disorienting. Um.
Speaker 1: But on the offensive side also, like I just wish
Speaker 1: they would change the quarterbacks and allow it to be
Speaker 1: more than one to nineteen. I guess that's anti traditional,
Speaker 1: but I'd like to have a quarterback that's like nine.
Speaker 1: That to me that grosses me out, which acts like
Speaker 1: a big thick like th h I c c big
Speaker 1: bodied quarterback that needed like kind of needed to to
Speaker 1: eights to kind of show how big he was. I
Speaker 1: don't know, like if my if Zach Wilson came into
Speaker 1: the league and he if he was number twenty six,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, no, this guy is out of the
Speaker 1: league and three one. He is very slight. He's not
Speaker 1: double number in him. I mean Brady, how fired up
Speaker 1: Brady is? Who It was an absurd explanation why Zach
Speaker 1: Wilson only have a number in the single digits, But
Speaker 1: go on, it's I mean Brady's worried about like recognizing
Speaker 1: where pressure is coming from and whether they're linebackers, defensive lineman,
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. It's like, okay, fine, buddy, Like
Speaker 1: fans like it. Every rule that's been made since Tom
Speaker 1: Brady's come in the league and for the you know,
Speaker 1: ten years before that was to help the offense and quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: So maybe this hurts just a tiny bit for people
Speaker 1: like Brady who are next level um in terms of
Speaker 1: identifying people. But one thing I want to point out
Speaker 1: with this rule is it doesn't totally go into effect
Speaker 1: this year. For players that want to wear these numbers
Speaker 1: this year that had a different number last year, they
Speaker 1: have to buy out the NFL's inventory of that number.
Speaker 1: And that's like a lot of money. Especially I think
Speaker 1: if it's like a big player where like a lot
Speaker 1: of jerseys have been printed, if it's kind of a
Speaker 1: no name, it might not make that big of a deal.
Speaker 1: But this is what happened when Oto Sinko want it
Speaker 1: to change his number, and he made pretty good money
Speaker 1: in his career, and he didn't want to do it
Speaker 1: because it was too much money, so he had to
Speaker 1: wait the year. So it might be one year from
Speaker 1: now when you see the deluge of of changes. That's sneaky. Yeah,
Speaker 1: another rule change approved a one year experiment and an
Speaker 1: attempt to make it easier to recover onside kicks on
Speaker 1: the receiving team on kickoffs will be limited to nine
Speaker 1: players within twenty five yards of the ball, only three
Speaker 1: of sixty seven on side kicks. Uh, we're recovering lass season,
Speaker 1: which you know that means it's broken. And the Eagles
Speaker 1: UM had been had proposed that teams be given an
Speaker 1: option to gain fifteen yards on one offensive play from
Speaker 1: their own twenty five as you remember, um to retain
Speaker 1: possession after a score. That's not happening. But they're trying
Speaker 1: to maybe even things out while not making the game
Speaker 1: more dangerous. That's stupid. I want to add this fourth
Speaker 1: and fifteen thing. Let's try moving up it. I hear
Speaker 1: that a lot. It's like, oh, they've made the once
Speaker 1: i'd kick so boring, and it's like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: is the once kicked that big of a deal that
Speaker 1: we need to save it? How about we just mix
Speaker 1: it up for a year and see. I bet people
Speaker 1: would love the fourth and fifteen thing. I bet people
Speaker 1: would go nuts for and they never they would never
Speaker 1: be able to take it away. And I'd at least say, like,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna you know, put us through preseason games,
Speaker 1: employ all these rules in the preseason and almost like
Speaker 1: urged teams to try it just to see what the
Speaker 1: response is, how it looks, how it feels, And finally
Speaker 1: they did make some replay modifications. UM owners rejected UM
Speaker 1: more hardcore proposals for a full time sky judge UM.
Speaker 1: The Ravens had called for a full time booth umpire,
Speaker 1: but the owners instead decided to give existing replay officials,
Speaker 1: who sit in the press box of each stadium, the
Speaker 1: authority to consult with referees on certain quote specific objective
Speaker 1: aspects of a play when clear and obvious video evidence
Speaker 1: is present, according to the language of the rule. I
Speaker 1: read somewhere that this was already happening informally, which is
Speaker 1: a little weird and strange when you talk about competitive
Speaker 1: balance and all that UM. But now it's something you
Speaker 1: can do within the letter of the law, right. Don't
Speaker 1: you remember last year there would be those really bad
Speaker 1: calls that like Romo would talk about for twenty seconds
Speaker 1: and then like everything would just kind of slow down,
Speaker 1: and then it would be like, actually they are, you know,
Speaker 1: throwing the flag, and that that was it, Like it
Speaker 1: was you could tell it was sort of happening. I
Speaker 1: like that because at anything that actually avoids the official
Speaker 1: review process but like quickly changes obvious calls like this
Speaker 1: is something that would make our friend Chris Wessling happy,
Speaker 1: and that that makes sense to me. Like I don't
Speaker 1: know why they don't just put them in their ear
Speaker 1: the whole time and let them talk to it. What's
Speaker 1: the big deal? But I think they're getting there, Like
Speaker 1: sky Judge just found sounds very old testament to me. Um,
Speaker 1: you know we I wouldn't I wouldn't mind someone with
Speaker 1: the authority just to say, you got to look at
Speaker 1: your humans. You've got this wrong. Um, I see something
Speaker 1: you don't see. Let's correct this. But they mark save
Speaker 1: it for the Theology podcast and other news material put
Speaker 1: into that pot at this point. By the way, Eagles
Speaker 1: head coach Nick Sirianni refuses to name Jalen Hurts as
Speaker 1: the team's starter in week one. He says there will
Speaker 1: be a quarterback competition. People are going nuts. Let's hear
Speaker 1: it from Sirianni himself to name any starters at this
Speaker 1: particular time. I just we've been working with these guys
Speaker 1: for two days, right, We've been working with these guys
Speaker 1: for two days. My biggest thing is competition. It's again
Speaker 1: we've talked a little bit about my core values. It's
Speaker 1: my second core value, it's his team's second core value.
Speaker 1: Competition is a huge thing, um, and we're gonna have
Speaker 1: competition at every position. What are people going to stop
Speaker 1: getting so fired up about these type of quotes? Like
Speaker 1: I I saw some talking can he'll go on name
Speaker 1: because he's a little close to the family, if you will,
Speaker 1: just like teeing off on Sirianni is being an absolute
Speaker 1: fool for even going down this road. And it's like,
Speaker 1: I get it, you're looking to fill a camera time
Speaker 1: and and go viral and all that stuff, But like,
Speaker 1: ultimately it's you that looks like a fool because this
Speaker 1: is what head coaches say all the time. And there's
Speaker 1: a very good chance Jalen Hurts is starting over Joe Flacco.
Speaker 1: It's almost it's definitely happening, you would think, But he's
Speaker 1: not gonna say that because head coaches don't like saying
Speaker 1: that stuff. Come down. It's a reminder too. There are
Speaker 1: some teams in facilities this week, so I guess football
Speaker 1: is back. That's another time we can, we can start
Speaker 1: saying football is back. The Patriots I think are in
Speaker 1: their facilities somewhat. I um. I also do think though,
Speaker 1: there's a chance the Eagles add someone to this competition.
Speaker 1: Not that that's why he said this, but whether it's
Speaker 1: a rookie or like a Teddy Bridgewater, if he becomes
Speaker 1: cheap enough for something like it, just wouldn't it just
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me. Just give it a break. Just someone
Speaker 1: that I'm just saying, they might add someone you never
Speaker 1: know in the draft and then go ahead. Mark always
Speaker 1: just say this though, like I I'd find it a
Speaker 1: bit tiresome that he's getting killed because it is coach speak.
Speaker 1: But if you get to the end of this journey
Speaker 1: um into August and we're treating the preseason as a
Speaker 1: true competition between Joe Flacco and Jalen Hurts, I mean,
Speaker 1: people in Philadelphia are gonna like crescendo their cars off
Speaker 1: the interstate into total darkness. It's just unmarketable. So just
Speaker 1: at some point, get real with it. This is your quarterback.
Speaker 1: You traded Carson Wentz. Just a bit of sense along
Speaker 1: I think about it, though, because he's a head coach
Speaker 1: and coaches think a certain way, and he views it's
Speaker 1: his first training camp. He wants it to be a competition,
Speaker 1: and he's got this. He doesn't really know these guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, and here's the other quote, that everyone's killing
Speaker 1: Sirianni for hit it, Ricky. I think some of you
Speaker 1: guys are wondering, like, what game? We didn't go air
Speaker 1: shattering on these games? Right? I played a couple of
Speaker 1: them at Rock paper scissors. Right. I was as easy
Speaker 1: as that rock paper scissors. Let's see how competitive you are.
Speaker 1: I'm competitive. I'm gonna be talking trash him. Did you
Speaker 1: talk trash back to me? Right? That is in friends
Speaker 1: to speaking with some draft prospects about just trying to
Speaker 1: figure out their competitive fire or whatever. H He also
Speaker 1: got killed for that. I will say this for Sirianni,
Speaker 1: he's in a very tough spot. I think you have
Speaker 1: to go back to maybe Jim Tomsula the last time
Speaker 1: I felt like a coach took a job and already
Speaker 1: had his back against the wall, where the fan base
Speaker 1: was not feeling it, and the organization felt like it
Speaker 1: was in flux, and nothing felt like it was set
Speaker 1: up well for him. That's how I feel about Nick
Speaker 1: Sirianni because it just seems like there's a target on
Speaker 1: his back already. Well, I would, I know, I think
Speaker 1: I appreciate that you are cutting against the grain to
Speaker 1: kind of lift him up and you know, take some
Speaker 1: of the heat that he's taking, you know, consistently away.
Speaker 1: But there's just me uh, there's something about his sort
Speaker 1: of overall presentation that leaves me, um, a little something
Speaker 1: to be desired there. But but I'm willing. But you
Speaker 1: you know what, let's just that's not his job entirely.
Speaker 1: Let's see how it goes come game time. He's right, like,
Speaker 1: there's nothing quite like talking during Rock paper Scissors. You're
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, you know what's up. I just got
Speaker 1: your I just got your your rock. Like it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just smashed your scissors. That's like layers on like
Speaker 1: a tape, like two second tape to lay you know,
Speaker 1: Rock paper Scissors is not the right if you If
Speaker 1: you actually watch this, and I think this podcast will
Speaker 1: also be up on YouTube, you could see the exact
Speaker 1: moment where Greg deliberates whether to bail on his bit.
Speaker 1: It was it was a nice little moment there. Um
Speaker 1: I enjoined. I was always an odds and evens guy,
Speaker 1: because I don't know rock paper scissors something with my brain.
Speaker 1: It always confused me a little bit, as simple as
Speaker 1: it is. So I was just no, let's do odds
Speaker 1: and evens odds it even shoot, let's fly. They're not
Speaker 1: drafting you like that just sits there, dumbfounded. You can't
Speaker 1: handle this. Hit me up on Twitter if you found
Speaker 1: rock paper scissors a little bit confusing. Uh. In other news,
Speaker 1: the Steelers signed head coach Mike Tomlin. Actually, don't hit
Speaker 1: me up on Twitter. I don't care. Steelers had coach
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin signs a three year extension with Pittsburgh forty
Speaker 1: nine years old, signed now through Uh, the Steeler. I
Speaker 1: love this that it's my favorite. Um kind of NFL
Speaker 1: fun fact that the Steelers, if he stays through the
Speaker 1: end of this deal, will have had three head coaches
Speaker 1: and over fifty five years, how many head coaches have
Speaker 1: there been for the Jets and Browns mark since we
Speaker 1: started this podcast, hate, I don't know, like triple this amount.
Speaker 1: So anyway, Tomlin is still there and uh, And I
Speaker 1: guess you could say, oh, but what about the meltdown
Speaker 1: and at the end of last season, and sure, Greg,
Speaker 1: you can kind of get I know where Mark is
Speaker 1: on the Steelers, so I want to hear from Greg
Speaker 1: on this first Um, But do you think it's it's
Speaker 1: smart for the Steelers to just stay in business with
Speaker 1: Toma no matter what? Do you think this brings a
Speaker 1: level of calm to an organization that maybe is still
Speaker 1: a little rock by what happened at the end of
Speaker 1: the year. I do, just because it's a different way
Speaker 1: to approach things. And he's won more games and it's
Speaker 1: is fourteen seasons than any NFL coach in history. It's
Speaker 1: pretty good. He's he's never had a losing season, so
Speaker 1: I think stability has a lot to be said for it,
Speaker 1: and he's delivered. I know they haven't always won in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, but that he has a six fifty winning percentage,
Speaker 1: it's just like I don't I do like the idea
Speaker 1: that coaching shouldn't be you have to win a like
Speaker 1: a playoff game or two every other year or you
Speaker 1: lose your job. Well, I and you know, I have
Speaker 1: been tough on the steel I've had my fun with
Speaker 1: the Steelers. But when it comes to Mike Tomlin, Um,
Speaker 1: to me, he is like the total alpha male. UM.
Speaker 1: He has weathered all storms in Pittsburgh. I know that
Speaker 1: you know there are certain Steelers fans to get agitated
Speaker 1: with him, But if the grass is always greener, I
Speaker 1: mean he he has basically been UM as good as
Speaker 1: Bill Cower, and he's not far away from surpassing Bill
Speaker 1: Kaur and wins. So I don't know what in years two.
Speaker 1: It really puts it into perspective that this year he'll
Speaker 1: match Bill kaer Uh in terms of just the tenure
Speaker 1: that Cower. Yeah, I'm trying to think where I would
Speaker 1: put Tomlin in my coach power rankings. If he's not
Speaker 1: top five, I would say he's probably top seven, top
Speaker 1: five personally. I just want to keep in the building.
Speaker 1: Um in retirement news, Jordan Reed, see you later, Buddy.
Speaker 1: The third round pick back in two thousand thirteen. Always
Speaker 1: um skillful as a pass catching tight end, but always
Speaker 1: dealing with injuries. UM more specifically head injuries, and that
Speaker 1: history of concussions is really the reason why he's stepping
Speaker 1: away from the game. He missed fifty three games over
Speaker 1: his eight seasons, so he heads into retirement at the
Speaker 1: age of thirty. Sometimes these guys take a year off
Speaker 1: and they come back and he's certainly young enough to
Speaker 1: do that mark. But at the same time, um, you
Speaker 1: totally understand where he's coming from here, trying to protect
Speaker 1: himself for the next fifty sixty years of his life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean one of these total what if careers because
Speaker 1: you look back on like he did in when he
Speaker 1: was like a total fantasy stud um eleven touchdowns, seven catches,
Speaker 1: one of the best playmaking tight ends around and it's
Speaker 1: the concussions And there was other injuries too, But I
Speaker 1: part of me was just like, with these guys that
Speaker 1: have multiple head injuries, like why are they Why did
Speaker 1: he come back even last season. I'm sure there's a
Speaker 1: competitive fire, but you just worry. You know, there's just
Speaker 1: there's too much murky um and and known evidence about
Speaker 1: what these can lead to in life, and so you know,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of happy for him to see him part
Speaker 1: ways with the game. He was part of the sea
Speaker 1: change at the in terms of just concussions, Like he
Speaker 1: came along at the time when people when the league
Speaker 1: started taking more seriously. I think of him in Brandon
Speaker 1: Stokely as two of the guys sort of most affected
Speaker 1: by the changes uh, and finally in the news. Here's
Speaker 1: a report from rap Sheet earlier this week. The Giants
Speaker 1: are slated to pick number eleven in the NFL draft,
Speaker 1: and trading back is already something they are internally considering.
Speaker 1: Oh hit it hit the trope alert Ricky, that spot
Speaker 1: will have real value? Ian right, how rare would it trade?
Speaker 1: Doown be? Dave Gettleman has never traded down in the
Speaker 1: first round in eight drafts as a GM. Let's hear
Speaker 1: from Gettleman himself. Nobody believes him. It's become a bit
Speaker 1: of a trope itself. Uh having discussions about uh, Dave
Speaker 1: Gentleman not trading um, the discussions of the trope has
Speaker 1: become a trope. It's pretty hardcore. Let's here from Gettlman
Speaker 1: had a great line, nasco will have right right terms
Speaker 1: before DJ trades back. Helm a line had a good laugh.
Speaker 1: I honestly, honest, I've tried to trade back, but it's
Speaker 1: gonna be value. I'm not getting fleeced. I refused to
Speaker 1: do it. And if you know somebody wants to make
Speaker 1: a bad trade back, God bless him. But you know,
Speaker 1: we've had opportunities. I've tried. You have to understand like,
Speaker 1: first of all, he that was Daniel jeremiahs that DJ
Speaker 1: at the beginning of that clip who made the NASCAR joke.
Speaker 1: It's a solid one. And gentleman, if you if you
Speaker 1: didn't see this press conference, is wearing a button down
Speaker 1: shirt and like a grandpa cardigan buttoned up over the
Speaker 1: shirts the best though, it's a sweater vest. It's a
Speaker 1: sweater vest. You don't see that too often, and it's
Speaker 1: just like and it's this is you know, I don't
Speaker 1: want to like overstated, but sometimes it just feels like
Speaker 1: the Giants have a GM that's playing checkers while other
Speaker 1: GM's are playing chess, and when he answers the certain
Speaker 1: questions this way, you just wonder if he's looking at
Speaker 1: the sport and the game that he plays within the
Speaker 1: sport in a competitive way when compared to other guys
Speaker 1: in the game. Well, what do we have to look
Speaker 1: at other than his track record, which is, you know,
Speaker 1: there have been select is over eight years and he's
Speaker 1: never traded down once. So it's like, you know, I
Speaker 1: think this thing about not getting fleeced this year does
Speaker 1: feel a little bit different because if you look at
Speaker 1: the Dolphins Niners trade if you want to climb up
Speaker 1: even just you know, a third of the draft, Like
Speaker 1: the cost right now is high, and you're gonna be
Speaker 1: measured against that Niners trade to some degree. I mean,
Speaker 1: each of these deals are a little bit different. But
Speaker 1: you know, he's gonna have to get something that can't
Speaker 1: just get henpecked by the New York media if he
Speaker 1: doesn't get great values. So maybe there aren't those deals
Speaker 1: out there. Maybe he's playing chess though, and and sweater
Speaker 1: vests are coming back and he's ahead of it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just saw this whole thing. You know, the baggy
Speaker 1: jeans are coming back now, that's mid nineties ghettomen. There
Speaker 1: was a decent amount of sweater vest. It was like
Speaker 1: some New York just like style. I was like, give
Speaker 1: me a break, but that. But maybe the sweater vests
Speaker 1: also coming back because they had a moment there. They
Speaker 1: had a moment about thirty years ago. That's usually the
Speaker 1: cycle thirty years And by the way, he is of
Speaker 1: grandfather age. It's not like you know a ma any
Speaker 1: old wearing a sweater vest. And although I actually read
Speaker 1: an article myself recently that that isn't you guys like
Speaker 1: diving deep and all the fashion reads on the net.
Speaker 1: I like, not this article proposed or you know, there
Speaker 1: was evidence that, um, you know, even younger than millennials
Speaker 1: are now dressing as grandfather's as it's as a chosen style.
Speaker 1: So maybe gettleman to Greg's point, is on the cutting
Speaker 1: edge of various things. I love how grandfather's dressed. I
Speaker 1: can't wait. It's it's a great look. My grandfather God
Speaker 1: dressed his soul. Baba Um used to wear a hat
Speaker 1: and actually it's one thing that I kept after he
Speaker 1: passed away that just said this is my retirement outfit.
Speaker 1: It was just like a hat that had that text
Speaker 1: and then like a golf pin in a hole or something.
Speaker 1: It's just like, all right, that's that's a that's grandfather fashion.
Speaker 1: That's what he's about. My grandfather would wear a suit
Speaker 1: on Saturdays to sit down and read the newspaper and
Speaker 1: not not leave. I mean, the type of men simply
Speaker 1: do not exist in our society right now. I think
Speaker 1: that's clear. There was the opposite sides of the spectrum. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, that's what's happening in the news. All right,
Speaker 1: it's been a while. We love our fans. Ah, the fans.
Speaker 1: The listeners. We never gave the listener like some shows
Speaker 1: give their listeners a the name. We don't really have that.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's something to think about down the line. But
Speaker 1: if we're this deep into the show, maybe that's just
Speaker 1: not gonna ever be a thing. Well, it's because our
Speaker 1: name around the NFL is kind of generic. Maybe we
Speaker 1: need to change that to get the listeners. You know, well,
Speaker 1: we don't get to decide to change the name of
Speaker 1: our own show. We get told by shadowy league figures
Speaker 1: as around the league we used to be. Now we're
Speaker 1: around the NFL, just waiting for our next marching autor
Speaker 1: at some point remarkable power that we're harnessing here. We
Speaker 1: we can't even decide what the title of our show is.
Speaker 1: We don't know what our listeners are called. Direction lists.
Speaker 1: Three kind of sad guys talking football. Uh, let's get
Speaker 1: into it. I hope you guys bring your a game
Speaker 1: because the listeners always sharp. Let's start right here with
Speaker 1: Paul Holland, who asks, do you see the Steelers trying
Speaker 1: to move up in the draft for a QB. Big
Speaker 1: Ben is nearing the end and the other qbs on
Speaker 1: the roster probably aren't the long term answer. And um,
Speaker 1: good question. I thought about this one, did a little
Speaker 1: bit of research. So there's that Jerry Jones uh, the
Speaker 1: famous draft pick trading chart, the Draft Chip draft pick
Speaker 1: value chart, it's known as And the Steelers are picking
Speaker 1: right now. Tough spot for if you're looking for a quarterback,
Speaker 1: that's worth forty points according to the uh Jimmy Johnson scale. Um,
Speaker 1: if they wanted to get up in the draft and
Speaker 1: go after somebody, if they gave up their second pick,
Speaker 1: that's worth fifty, that's worth points overall. That gets them
Speaker 1: to ten ninety, which would put them around fourteen fifteen
Speaker 1: in the draft. The problem is, boys, I don't know,
Speaker 1: even if they made an aggressive play to move up
Speaker 1: the draft board, if there's gonna be somewhere and they're
Speaker 1: sitting for them, is it Is it crazy that mac
Speaker 1: Jones or Tree Lance or Justin Fields could be there
Speaker 1: in the middle of the first round. Not crazy, but
Speaker 1: probably not likely. Sitting where they are now, it would
Speaker 1: probably be someone that surprised people. I think I would
Speaker 1: just say this, I don't know if the Jimmy Johnson
Speaker 1: trade value chart applies as directly this time around. You
Speaker 1: just look at that Niners trade again up to Miami.
Speaker 1: With Miami, I mean what they gave up, that's going
Speaker 1: to be expensive. I mean, you're not gonna suddenly live
Speaker 1: in a different world costwise. And I think Kevin Colbert
Speaker 1: has traded up or down in twenty drafts maybe four times.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if that's their culture either. I
Speaker 1: just don't know if this is the year that will
Speaker 1: happen with considering where they're sitting. No, Kevin Colvert values
Speaker 1: those picks. Is always about value that it's it's hard
Speaker 1: to imagine. I think it's one of the reasons they
Speaker 1: brought Roethlisberger back, is what where they're drafting. Even think
Speaker 1: back to the Roethlisberger draft, where, by the way, it
Speaker 1: was Kevin Colvert making the pick and they didn't move
Speaker 1: up to go get Ben Roethlisberger. They sat there and
Speaker 1: patiently waited and hoped that one of those big three
Speaker 1: quarterbacks really was going to be Rivers. Roethlisberger felt to
Speaker 1: them and it did and it worked out perfectly. So
Speaker 1: I can't imagine it. I mean, yes, behind Ben Roethlisberger
Speaker 1: right now, Mason Rudolph, Josh Dobbs, Dwayne Haskins, and with
Speaker 1: with what we saw last year with Big Ben, it
Speaker 1: is certainly possible he falls off the cliff entirely. That
Speaker 1: is within the range of outcomes. Here are the Steelers.
Speaker 1: I would be really surprised if they don't have somebody
Speaker 1: in the building um early draft pick style they like.
Speaker 1: They like Mason Rudolph. He was a pretty early draft pick.
Speaker 1: He was the second round draft got a lot of
Speaker 1: quarterbacks too. They've got Dwayne Haskins, it was a first
Speaker 1: round draft. I'm just saying that you might not like
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph, Dan, but they like Mason Rudolf. Hmm. We'll see,
Speaker 1: I guess. I guess we'll stay tuned until about ten
Speaker 1: days from l see where they stand on that. Up next,
Speaker 1: Brendan Kenneally asks, with the draft coming up and a
Speaker 1: few teams and high spots that could potentially be open
Speaker 1: to giving away their spot, what team is most likely
Speaker 1: to a trade away their spot and be who was
Speaker 1: most likely to trade up into a new higher spot.
Speaker 1: I I we just talked about the Steelers. I could
Speaker 1: definitely see them making a play if they if a
Speaker 1: quarterback starts falling, Greg, do you see another team in
Speaker 1: that realm. I think the Falcons, instead of making like
Speaker 1: a big statement in terms of drafting their quarterback of
Speaker 1: the future fourth like Thomas Demit drafted with Matt Ryan,
Speaker 1: I actually can see them going the other way. We're
Speaker 1: using that number four pick to pick up a ton
Speaker 1: of picks, kind of like the Dolphins did still have
Speaker 1: a draft pick in the top ten or eleven and
Speaker 1: start their rebuilding process that way. I don't know who
Speaker 1: trades up there, but you know, in a in a
Speaker 1: fun world, it would be my New England Patriots. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: I would see New England as a team that you
Speaker 1: know is gonna want to move up if they have to,
Speaker 1: you know, heat seek a quarterback to go somewhere else
Speaker 1: than Cam Newton. You know, I think the Panthers, after
Speaker 1: swinging and missing um, not really getting their first choice
Speaker 1: at quarterback, and you know you've got Sam Donald, who
Speaker 1: I think you want to take a look at. Maybe
Speaker 1: they go from number eight and say, let's if we
Speaker 1: can get value and someone really wants to get into
Speaker 1: number eight, will go down. I mean just I think
Speaker 1: at some point it would have gone the other way.
Speaker 1: They would have traded up. That's what they tried. To do.
Speaker 1: And I don't think the Falcons are gonna want to
Speaker 1: trade with the Panthers to give Carolina the franchise quarterback
Speaker 1: inside the same division. I mean, they're also a little
Speaker 1: bit hamstrung financially at quarterback the Panthers, because they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to pay Teddy Bridgewater wherever he ends up. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have to You're hearing that they're picking up the
Speaker 1: Sam Donald option, so you have a lot. Are you
Speaker 1: gonna bring in a high priced or a high drafted
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback? On top of all that, it just seems
Speaker 1: like a lot. They need a left tackle though, and
Speaker 1: they are in the perfect a cat bird seat to
Speaker 1: take the top left tackler at least number two. This
Speaker 1: from Paul Silva. You think rookie Qubs will take a
Speaker 1: step back in now that there will be fans in
Speaker 1: the stands. Okay, Um, here's my thought on that. And
Speaker 1: when you talk about rookie Qubs, Joe Burrow, two U
Speaker 1: Herbert Jalen Hurts, those are the kind of four guys
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know who knows when if
Speaker 1: they'll like freak out. I'm sure all these guys played
Speaker 1: in front of big crowds their whole careers. Um So
Speaker 1: I don't think so. But at the same time, it
Speaker 1: is kind of an interesting experiment, sociological experiment, if you will,
Speaker 1: the whole season. I guess it will be different for
Speaker 1: these guys that all of a sudden they're playing at
Speaker 1: this level in front of seventy screaming fans. Hypothetically, it's
Speaker 1: it is a beguiling question. I mean, I liked the
Speaker 1: question because it makes me have to think about that.
Speaker 1: But if anything, I think last year would have been
Speaker 1: the step away from the norm. I mean, these guys
Speaker 1: aren't from the wilderness. They've been playing in front of
Speaker 1: like big, cheering crowds for a decade plus his football players,
Speaker 1: so it's not that atypical. And if anything, I think
Speaker 1: it may be energizes certain players and certain athletes. Well,
Speaker 1: Herbert's in a unique spot though, charges fans, you gotta
Speaker 1: start filling up that stadium. We haven't seen what this
Speaker 1: stadium is gonna be with the Chargers, but he might
Speaker 1: feel like he's playing sixteen road games. That's what the
Speaker 1: last Chargers quarterback, Philip Rivers, felt like, So that could
Speaker 1: be an additional trouble. I'm worried about Herbert. I I
Speaker 1: got a lot on Herbert right now. I just want
Speaker 1: him to be a little too. I want him to
Speaker 1: be the next guy. I'm not not loving the coordinator now,
Speaker 1: this this question has me a little freaked. Though it
Speaker 1: is it is interesting. We we kind of hit paused
Speaker 1: because of COVID on all the Chargers melodrama about are
Speaker 1: they going to really truly find a home in the
Speaker 1: l A market? And now they have this giant stadium
Speaker 1: and how are they gonna fill it up? And is
Speaker 1: it gonna become road games where justin Herbert's calling time
Speaker 1: out on offense because he can't get he can't get
Speaker 1: his signals in and all that, Like, all that stuff
Speaker 1: was on the back burner. When the stadiums are empty,
Speaker 1: it's all gonna be back on the front burner, hopefully.
Speaker 1: Um alright, this from the broadcast podcast. You know Ricky
Speaker 1: always signed it away to plug your own brand. Uh,
Speaker 1: these all suck. I guess the questions you're referring to,
Speaker 1: what eight teams would you choose to break away from
Speaker 1: the NFL to create their own Super league? Dash Broads
Speaker 1: for light. Now, I only have a vague level of
Speaker 1: knowledge on this greg and maybe you could fill in
Speaker 1: the dots, but there was major drama over on the
Speaker 1: other side of the pond around uh, their version of football.
Speaker 1: So why don't you set the table and then we'll
Speaker 1: figure it out. Well, I think most sports sands probably
Speaker 1: know the story of the Super League already collapsing, where
Speaker 1: basically the richest, biggest soccer teams from all over the
Speaker 1: globe different leagues tried to break away and form their
Speaker 1: own league and the fans are vaulted and it didn't happen.
Speaker 1: For this question, it would be like, you can't you
Speaker 1: imagine some owners doing this at some point, like we
Speaker 1: gotta get more money, we gotta get more money. And
Speaker 1: so I'm thinking more about who who has the most
Speaker 1: dough and who who has the biggest brands, And so
Speaker 1: I'm starting with the Patriots, the Cowboys, you know, Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones and Craft are leading the way. I think you
Speaker 1: gotta get the Packers in there. It just feels like,
Speaker 1: what's a football league without the Packers. I'm putting the
Speaker 1: Steelers in. The NFL would be asking the same thing.
Speaker 1: By the way, It's like, wait, they're bringing and the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: They're breaking apart. The NFL is not happy. The Steelers.
Speaker 1: You gotta put in there with the tradition, and Mark's
Speaker 1: not gonna be happy about this. But I'm putting the
Speaker 1: Ravens in there too. The Browns. Forget about the Browns,
Speaker 1: but I like having a little bit of a rivalry.
Speaker 1: The Ravens Steelers thing. Bring that to the new league.
Speaker 1: Their well run. Uh, the Chiefs, you gotta bring my
Speaker 1: homes to the news, so they're coming. And then finally
Speaker 1: you got you need another West Coast team. The Seahawks
Speaker 1: makes to me, I like bringing their fan base into
Speaker 1: this league. And the Raiders, Um so really we're just
Speaker 1: ripping the guts out of the NFL. Your move? Can
Speaker 1: I Can I just say that Roger Gods Network, by
Speaker 1: the way, go ahead. I know that you're thinking, I
Speaker 1: probably like listed the Browns and a bunch of teams
Speaker 1: the Browns could beat in the Super League. But you
Speaker 1: know the questions coming from the from Erica and the
Speaker 1: Broads like that. You know this is about money, Okay.
Speaker 1: So I basically have the exact same list as Greg
Speaker 1: save four the Seahawks. I replaced with the Niners just
Speaker 1: because I'm a little bit older than you guys, and
Speaker 1: like I grew up with those Niners dynasties, and I
Speaker 1: think that that's my West Coast team, and I have
Speaker 1: the Saints. I don't know who that replaces from your list,
Speaker 1: but I had the Saints in there as well, so
Speaker 1: very similar, Greg, because I think this is about making
Speaker 1: the cash. M hmm, let's get this. Um, I'll work
Speaker 1: off Greg's list as the master, and then I'm with you.
Speaker 1: So you're putting the Saints in, Mark, is that who
Speaker 1: you took out? The Raiders and the Seahawks were replaced
Speaker 1: with the Saints and the Niners. Okay, I agree the
Speaker 1: Raiders have to be in the league. I think they
Speaker 1: have to be there. Um, But this anti New York bias,
Speaker 1: I get it. The Giants are boring and the Jets
Speaker 1: are a mess, But we've got to have a New
Speaker 1: York team in there. It's a Tiffany franchise. You gotta
Speaker 1: have the Giants involved in the mixed for me. So
Speaker 1: I got I'm gonna get rid of I'll get rid
Speaker 1: of the Ravens personally. Sorry, alright. The more they just
Speaker 1: like to be told they're pretty and and nice and
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, you're the greatest organization. I just and
Speaker 1: with Lamar too, just trying to give him a little
Speaker 1: pat on the back. Well, there's a I like that
Speaker 1: Steelers Ravens rivalry to kick off. This super league is
Speaker 1: gonna need a lot of help. You know, you don't
Speaker 1: these are I mean, please, I'm not gonna any help.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be like TV and ratings for the
Speaker 1: roof and the NFL is going to be left by
Speaker 1: the side of the highway in this scenario. So all right,
Speaker 1: so there you go. Moving on this from m Boucher.
Speaker 1: Who's the top contender for the Team of a t
Speaker 1: L this year? And why is it the Lions? Okay,
Speaker 1: we haven't had one in two years, by the way,
Speaker 1: A couple of things to unpack here. First of all,
Speaker 1: um our great man, great friend Chris Westling, we we
Speaker 1: took and it kind of annoyed him, which was always fun.
Speaker 1: I used called the Team of West t L because
Speaker 1: we could never get anything rubber rubber stamped unless West
Speaker 1: was behind the team. Um So with West not here
Speaker 1: with us, I don't know, maybe Team of a t
Speaker 1: L T West the l That's that's something in the
Speaker 1: history of this podcast. But there's a second part of
Speaker 1: this as well, which is the only time the team
Speaker 1: of a t N really worked was when it was
Speaker 1: organic and we all gravitated towards a team that we
Speaker 1: liked and maybe, just maybe, and I think West would
Speaker 1: like this too. If we felt that way naturally about
Speaker 1: a team this season, uh, then there will be a
Speaker 1: team of a t N. The one thing I know
Speaker 1: it will not be is the Detroit Lions. It's tough though,
Speaker 1: because we're like both eight, we're in the a f
Speaker 1: C East. There's too many like competing rivalries between the
Speaker 1: three of us. But I know the one that unfortunately
Speaker 1: has the hooks back in, which is you know, my
Speaker 1: pick almost every other year, which is the Chargers. I
Speaker 1: was so mad about Philip Rivers. I forsake them for
Speaker 1: about ten seven games last year. But now with Herbert like,
Speaker 1: that's the one I'm gonna get overly excited about again.
Speaker 1: I could be drawn towards the Niners on the Chargers
Speaker 1: are one for me too, But look at I like,
Speaker 1: if you've listened to the show, I spent last August
Speaker 1: trying to tell you guys how the Lions were gonna
Speaker 1: be spicy and relevant and you know, fun to watch.
Speaker 1: And I you know, I actually spent more time watching
Speaker 1: them trying to make that be the case, and I
Speaker 1: was punished for it visually. So if you think I'm
Speaker 1: going back down that road two years in a row,
Speaker 1: I've gotta learn some lessons when we cover this sport,
Speaker 1: I hope. Okay, up next, Brock right asks, super Bowl
Speaker 1: Sunday is now the day before Valentine's Day. Remember it's
Speaker 1: a seventeen game schedule. Now everything gets pushed back a week.
Speaker 1: Do the heroes foresee that that causing marital strife on
Speaker 1: any level? Now, I could tell you this. I don't
Speaker 1: know Brock from a hole in the wall, but I
Speaker 1: bet he's a younger guy because he is under the
Speaker 1: impression that Valentine's Day has any meaning to married people.
Speaker 1: It doesn't exist if it happens to fall on a
Speaker 1: Friday or Saturday, and that happens to fall on a
Speaker 1: night where you have a babysitter and you go out
Speaker 1: for the night. Hey, you're you're out on Valentine's Day.
Speaker 1: But there is no such thing as Valentine's Day for
Speaker 1: grown ups. It's over very very important and impactful when
Speaker 1: you're a teenager through college. O your college girlfriend was
Speaker 1: nuts about Valentine's Day. In your twenties, absolutely, they use
Speaker 1: it as benchmarks about how seriously they should take you
Speaker 1: depending on your performance. But that all fades away eventually.
Speaker 1: I don't see it as a big issue overall. I
Speaker 1: I don't know either. I find the holiday to be
Speaker 1: like an ultrasham on multiple levels. And and if I
Speaker 1: if I were to suggest that the ups and downs
Speaker 1: one goes through UM in a marriage relationship hinges entirely
Speaker 1: on Valentine's Day, I mean, you don't. You don't want
Speaker 1: to do nothing, you don't want to be hyper apathetic
Speaker 1: about it, but UM, you got to address it. You're kind,
Speaker 1: you're stuck doing it. But I mean, it's to me,
Speaker 1: it is I'm not doing nothing. I'm not I don't
Speaker 1: do nothing. I don't think that's that's from my I
Speaker 1: did try that once, and I did not find that
Speaker 1: to be a very successful UM approach. But I don't
Speaker 1: do much either, And I think as time goes on,
Speaker 1: you do less and less, and UM, it's a concoction.
Speaker 1: I don't every relationships different. Every relationship is different, not
Speaker 1: one size fits all that said, I totally agree with
Speaker 1: everything Dan said. In my relationship, I somehow found someone
Speaker 1: less sentimental than me, so she didn't. That's remarkable. And yes,
Speaker 1: super Bowl Sunday falling on Valentine's Day itself, that's a
Speaker 1: problem for you twenty somethings out there, and good luck
Speaker 1: to you. I'm glad I don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 1: Um all right, Mark up next, this one from war
Speaker 1: war Werner war Warner. Let's work on that handle. This
Speaker 1: one is mainly for Mark Sessler. What actor would be
Speaker 1: chosen to play each podcast hero, including Erica Tampose? Alright,
Speaker 1: so you know, I knew I knew this question was coming,
Speaker 1: So I did a lot of research, by the way,
Speaker 1: and um, I'm going to start with Dan because Dan,
Speaker 1: you know, when you're gonna cast this film, let's just
Speaker 1: be real. Dan has to be a home run, um choice,
Speaker 1: who is essentially the main thing, because then the real
Speaker 1: Dan is just going to be upset. That's the only
Speaker 1: that's the main thing. Why it's got That's also a
Speaker 1: fact he's going to be offended by almost anyone. You
Speaker 1: that is a factor. But you can't get some you
Speaker 1: can't get some super unknown risks. It's got to be Ham.
Speaker 1: It is not him. I'm not going with him. I
Speaker 1: am going with an actor who I think has leading
Speaker 1: man vibes. It's to John hamm is a little older now,
Speaker 1: so maybe he doesn't quite sync up with the old Zeuser.
Speaker 1: He's the older than you, you know. I also never
Speaker 1: I appreciate your your ham nous, but I do see
Speaker 1: that unless there's the other part of this now that
Speaker 1: now that that the new old Blue Eyes is really
Speaker 1: taken off, more and more people are plugged in on
Speaker 1: the baby Blues and Ham unless you put in the
Speaker 1: context anyway, I'm gonna stay out of the way here.
Speaker 1: John ham could have in a great choice. But I'd
Speaker 1: like to see what you have Mark. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: that it's taken off the way that others would use
Speaker 1: that descriptor. But I'm going Josh Brolin, and I want
Speaker 1: you to take a look at this photo right number one.
Speaker 1: Great hair Um has alpha male leadership qualities. I recently
Speaker 1: just watched No Country for Old Men for like the
Speaker 1: eighth time, and he is sensational in it. And you
Speaker 1: know what, he is a true actor, I mean the
Speaker 1: son of an actor. He was in Goonies way back.
Speaker 1: When this guy has a long career, you can trust
Speaker 1: him to deliver a powerful performance. And I think he
Speaker 1: has also secret more comedic chops that would lend to
Speaker 1: some of what Dan offers to the podcast Great Hair.
Speaker 1: I'm I have no problem with Josh Brolin portraying me
Speaker 1: in a film Thank You years old. So yeah, it
Speaker 1: fits in with like, oh well, so Gregan part of
Speaker 1: I Am a little bit exactly. He played fanos. They
Speaker 1: can see g I am all they want. Um. All right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Greg next. And Greg is going to
Speaker 1: get someone that I've known. People have noted online multiple
Speaker 1: times that Gregg looks like this person, Adam Brody. Yeah.
Speaker 1: First of all, the look is very close. Um, but
Speaker 1: you know he's got the acting chops from Gilmore Girls,
Speaker 1: from the o C. And I read this that he
Speaker 1: was described Adam Brody by the Los Angeles Times as
Speaker 1: TV's sexiest geek and by Time is having, in quotes,
Speaker 1: redefined the screen persona of unapologetic nerdiness. So you've got
Speaker 1: the personality, you've got the traits. Um, what do you
Speaker 1: think Greg? I mean, I like that he married Um
Speaker 1: Summer from the show in real life, right, didn't he don't.
Speaker 1: I'm all for it. I'll take it. I'll take all
Speaker 1: the Adam Brody um comments as a compliment. The problem
Speaker 1: is I only get those like on Twitter that's never
Speaker 1: happening in real life, so I'm not sure I'm buying
Speaker 1: this as the other good thing. The other good thing
Speaker 1: for you, Mark is you try to get this project
Speaker 1: off the ground. Don't know if you're epeeing it or what,
Speaker 1: but Adam Brody definitely available, very available, ready to go
Speaker 1: right now. Um, Erica, Ricky Hollywood. Uh, there are a
Speaker 1: lot of ways you could go here, but I went
Speaker 1: with an actress who um I loved in the show
Speaker 1: Party Down, Lizzie Kaplan. Let's take a look. Um. She's versatile.
Speaker 1: I think she can bring the requisite sassiness to the
Speaker 1: rule and uh, you know, I've also went through you know,
Speaker 1: photo at galleries each of these actresses and actors, and
Speaker 1: she can look versatily different in different rules and stuff.
Speaker 1: So I don't know how Ricky feels about that, but
Speaker 1: it is a compliment coming from me. She's a good actress.
Speaker 1: Erica feels nothing about it, so we will move on. Uma,
Speaker 1: Erica are you on our show or what. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I'm here. I just wasn't sure if you were gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, keep rifling them through. No. I think it's
Speaker 1: a good pick. I think it it works okay. By
Speaker 1: the way, this one is the first one I take
Speaker 1: issue with a little bit. I love Lizzie Caplan, great actor. Um.
Speaker 1: I think it's a right right Church, wrong Pew situation here.
Speaker 1: I think Linda Cardinelli Freaking and many other projects would
Speaker 1: be very good. This may have been a case where
Speaker 1: I was, you know, the podcast was starting soon, having
Speaker 1: to kind of get the act together with some of
Speaker 1: these choices. I love Cardinelli to once saw her, um,
Speaker 1: you know, at a sandwich shop in the middle of
Speaker 1: doing jury duty. She is at least a decade and
Speaker 1: a half older than Yeah. She was born in nineteen
Speaker 1: and I was born in ninety two. I was looking
Speaker 1: for someone in the age. Did you see the Irishman?
Speaker 1: You can age people down, no problem then, um Mark,
Speaker 1: we had discussed before the show. You wanted me to
Speaker 1: handle your casting, which I understand. I have an option
Speaker 1: first though that I think that you know, I think
Speaker 1: would just sometimes it's easy just to pull these things off,
Speaker 1: and I think I've gone with a selection that the
Speaker 1: audience would see an organic connection with Eric. If you
Speaker 1: want to bring up the person to play Mark, it
Speaker 1: would just be it would be Brad Pitt because I
Speaker 1: think there's just a lot of connective tissue there m visually,
Speaker 1: sort of energy wise. Right. Well, now that the comedic
Speaker 1: portion of the segment is clear, let's let's move to
Speaker 1: more natural terrain. Okay. And I leaned on my wife,
Speaker 1: my wife Emily, who works professionally in the casting industry,
Speaker 1: and asked her, who would you cast to play Mark?
Speaker 1: So here's here's three choices. I asked for three options.
Speaker 1: One ed Norton. Okay, and this is what Emily wrote
Speaker 1: to me, because we only communicate via text. Smart guy
Speaker 1: who is internal and cerebral in his performances, threads in
Speaker 1: intensity into every character he plays. Number two. Yeah, where's
Speaker 1: where's the photos for this? Ricky? Number two? Aaron Paul
Speaker 1: a sensitive, nuanced actor who tells everything through his eyes.
Speaker 1: Very soulful and sensitive and someone in audience roots or
Speaker 1: but he can turn on a dime if you push
Speaker 1: him enough. God damn, that's right. That's pretty good. I
Speaker 1: think that's the winner and the final choice Ben Mendelssohn
Speaker 1: is probably the weirdest idea. But when Mark is in
Speaker 1: his fifties, uh, and we're knocking on the door, he's
Speaker 1: the guy. He's an actor who possesses quiet ferocity, which
Speaker 1: he delivers in every performance could be could be referred
Speaker 1: to as a quote quiet storm. I think Emily has
Speaker 1: done an absolutely excellent job. And you know, Emily and
Speaker 1: I we connected on casting once because I essentially discovered
Speaker 1: Felicity Jones Um long before society did, and Emily recognized
Speaker 1: that talent within, so I certainly recognized hers. And I
Speaker 1: think mendelssohn Um is one of my favorite actors. So
Speaker 1: thank you. I think it's a knockout job there. I'll
Speaker 1: take any one of those three, maybe maybe all three
Speaker 1: would play me during different stages of the film that Wow,
Speaker 1: it's a lot, it's a big it's a big expense
Speaker 1: to play play marxis alat of a lot of Now
Speaker 1: we're starting to actually see what this movie is about. Really. Yeah, Emily,
Speaker 1: you did a great job, but I think she missed
Speaker 1: kind of like the obvious choice. Greg German of some
Speaker 1: in German gets I get well. When everyone saw the
Speaker 1: movie Juno when she was like pregnant in sixteen. Everyone's like,
Speaker 1: you look so much like Elliott Elliott all right, there's
Speaker 1: been a shift in that realm. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I totally agree with the actually clean up there, Ricky. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: speaking of knockouts, when are Greg and DJ going to
Speaker 1: have a boxing match for charity? You know, I like
Speaker 1: this one. I mean I would definitely not box DJ
Speaker 1: in what wait I would be Uh, I would be
Speaker 1: in trouble there. I'm giving up a lot of reach.
Speaker 1: I would. I would take my chances in some other
Speaker 1: athletic endeavors, but boxing would be troubling. I remember, is
Speaker 1: this where you circle back and tell us that you
Speaker 1: played tennis competitively? No, I'm just saying, like, give me
Speaker 1: a sport that, uh that we can compete at. I
Speaker 1: I think boxing. I'm not basketball upper upper body strength.
Speaker 1: I mean that the height is definitely a problem there
Speaker 1: with basketball, but I could I could try maybe get
Speaker 1: a two on two going here. I don't like your
Speaker 1: chances in the ring. I'm again being older than you.
Speaker 1: I as a kid with a bunch of dads and kids,
Speaker 1: we piled into this one um friends house like twenty
Speaker 1: five of us to watch Tyson Spinks. And remember the
Speaker 1: host father um was put had put like microwave popcorn
Speaker 1: into the microwave and the fight was nine seconds and
Speaker 1: the popcorn wasn't even popped by the time it was over,
Speaker 1: and everyone's back in their houses two hours later. I
Speaker 1: see this fight going in similar fashion. I mean, now
Speaker 1: I would be like I would be like Floyd Mayweather
Speaker 1: and just dancing around the ring, and then the crowd
Speaker 1: and start booing, and I would like turn around to
Speaker 1: them because they're not getting their money. Was like break
Speaker 1: it on, and I just wouldn't let him touch me.
Speaker 1: You get a chair over the head. But some of that.
Speaker 1: And finally this from Chance zep, Hey, the are we
Speaker 1: getting a Mark Sessler mock draft this year? Sure? I
Speaker 1: started about twenty minutes before that designated episode next week
Speaker 1: and roll it out once the episode starts. He likes
Speaker 1: to pretend he doesn't put much into it, but he
Speaker 1: he's like already started. He knew that, you know, he's
Speaker 1: been working on it. Well, I can also just take
Speaker 1: m j d s and just say it's mine, like
Speaker 1: no one would know. So the thing about the Sessler
Speaker 1: mock draft it's absolutely true. Is that it's definitely set up.
Speaker 1: It's set up for Mark in a way that if
Speaker 1: he gets everything wrong, oh I don't care anyway, if
Speaker 1: he gets a few right, it's like, hey, look at me.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm the seer on Mark Sessler, like nailed six.
Speaker 1: I think last year something like that, it was quite remarkable.
Speaker 1: What what is a good grade in these mock drafts?
Speaker 1: And they all say it that I don't care about
Speaker 1: my mock draft, but they all care, Like what what
Speaker 1: constitutes success with a mock draft? I would love to
Speaker 1: know a number if the Jimmy if the Jimmy Johnson
Speaker 1: draft chart is something that people takes easily, why isn't
Speaker 1: there something that represents a grating curve on the East
Speaker 1: draft mock drafts which are everywhere, it seems to be
Speaker 1: no accountability because I would say, if you're if you're
Speaker 1: someone that's spending like six months putting these together and
Speaker 1: you don't get ten out of thirty two, like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like some years are impossible, like it
Speaker 1: all depends on your No. One, but like last year,
Speaker 1: but there's some years where actually it goes pretty chalky. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there's less information right now because of COVID
Speaker 1: and the opt ins and opt outs that we'll see.
Speaker 1: That's what we said going into last year's draft, and
Speaker 1: for the most part, people missed where guys were going.
Speaker 1: But the first round was somewhat predictable. There's some years
Speaker 1: where it's like impossible to get anyone, no one has
Speaker 1: any idea, which is nice. Yeah, and that's typically how
Speaker 1: these thing. You know, when a trade happens, everything gets
Speaker 1: shaken up. Yeah, but we we will have a Sessler
Speaker 1: mock draft coming. That's good. Speaking it was next week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: speaking of draft week, Mike's marks Mark Draft will be
Speaker 1: part of our five Days of podcast starting Monday, So
Speaker 1: we'll have shows Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and then Thursday night.
Speaker 1: After Round one, will jump on immediately and I will
Speaker 1: have I believe, if the draft goes Chalk in the
Speaker 1: first two picks, I will have my Zach Wilson Chipotle burrito,
Speaker 1: which doesn't have to be trend setting, it doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be some type of transcendent game changing item. It
Speaker 1: just has to be tasty and I am looking forward
Speaker 1: to it. Um. So we'll break down all of the week.
Speaker 1: The Round one picks as we do every year, and
Speaker 1: then we'll be back Saturday night. It's the only Saturday
Speaker 1: night show we do all year. Um, thank god. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll recap the rest of the draft. That's right after
Speaker 1: the seventh round concludes with Mr Irrelevant. I can't believe
Speaker 1: Mr Irrelevant hasn't gotten whacked yet by the PC police.
Speaker 1: That's gotta go, right, that's going to be gone very soon.
Speaker 1: If I mean, you wrote that article probably six seven
Speaker 1: years in a row. Was sort of an anchoring franchise
Speaker 1: for you that I don't I don't think that offends anyone, know,
Speaker 1: you know, they do like they do a parade, they don't,
Speaker 1: you know, they give it. This guy gets a little
Speaker 1: extra pop than then I get a feeling that, well,
Speaker 1: it will be renamed all right, I'll make a prediction
Speaker 1: with you. I'll make a sandwich prop long range. In
Speaker 1: the next five years, it won't be called that anymore.
Speaker 1: It will be something that's very much softer and celebratory
Speaker 1: of the player. Last but not least right, because well,
Speaker 1: this is going to be deemed as it doesn't truly
Speaker 1: celebrate the man for what he achieved to get to. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. By the way, I will say, someone
Speaker 1: who's like way more irrelevant is the person picked just
Speaker 1: before last, who doesn't have a nickname or a title,
Speaker 1: doesn't get a parade, doesn't have an article written about him.
Speaker 1: That's the person no one ever heard of. That's it's
Speaker 1: simply not irrelevant. They they're making you relevant, They're forcing
Speaker 1: it upon us. I want to go get my lunch
Speaker 1: dot org. You know you gotta put that this long
Speaker 1: term one. I don't know if we've ever had a
Speaker 1: five year timeline. Let's put another one, putting a sandwich on, like,
Speaker 1: will there be a show in five years? We still well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess I'll say, you know, let's
Speaker 1: be optimistic there. I'm just saying, we're negotiating with DraftKings,
Speaker 1: we will have a show in five years. Let's put
Speaker 1: that up to I'm just saying, it's a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of faith. What kind of sandwich is will
Speaker 1: our show exist in five years? What is wrong with you?
Speaker 1: I'm I'm putting it on it. It's up to you
Speaker 1: to take me up if you disagree. So you're saying,
Speaker 1: I know, I'm saying there will be a show. So
Speaker 1: it's like, so I can get nothing else, so I
Speaker 1: can collect this sandwich that they haven't changed. Mr Irrelevant,
Speaker 1: because that's not happening. That's not happening. If the show
Speaker 1: ends and you think I'm going to be giving you sandwiches, um,
Speaker 1: you know, for free two years later or something like that,
Speaker 1: you're you don't know, treat and even now you don't
Speaker 1: even now I know, I know I'm not going to
Speaker 1: be giving you anything. So sure of it. Everybody settled up?
Speaker 1: All right, good stuff, good show. We have our network program.
Speaker 1: We are going dark draft week um next week, so
Speaker 1: this is our last network show for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: So make sure you tune in tomorrow Friday on NFL
Speaker 1: networking around the NFL broadcast, Please dvr it. Give it
Speaker 1: a shot back at June noon Pacific this week and
Speaker 1: you can figure out what that in the time zones.
Speaker 1: Pacific is the best. That's let's make that the what
Speaker 1: everyone says, that's my new movement right listed pt slash
Speaker 1: et from here on out. It's always been reversed. It
Speaker 1: you need it needs to be something catchy to stick.
Speaker 1: And I think you now that Greg with Pacific is
Speaker 1: the best. All right, that's it. This Dan has a
Speaker 1: signing off four by Storm the old boss, Ricky Hollywood.
Speaker 1: Behind the virtual glass. They're gonna age CARDINALI down, Ricky
Speaker 1: way down. Okay, get ready until Monday. Heed the call.