1 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Huddle Up Podcast. Today is Wednesday, June twelfth, Japon. Shadwick, 2 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: John Oser from Hondai Studios at the Miller Electric Center 3 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, Bunching Brooks joining us in Los Angeles, and school's. 4 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 2: Out for summer. 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 3: Good day, good day, John's kind of day. 6 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: Fucking good day today. 7 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure it's his kind of day. 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 5: Like it's over, We're done, we won't see anymore. 9 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 4: I think John wouldn't even call. 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 5: It football until training camp, So this would be a 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 5: nice time for everyone to kind of relax. We set, 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 5: we calibrate, get ready for what should be a very 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 5: rigorous training camp to get this team ready to row. 14 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, and it again, it feels as much as that 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 6: kid about OTAs in mini camp, they're important to get ready. 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 6: It seemed this week like the intensity really went up 17 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 6: in Mini camp compared to OTAs, which you would expect 18 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 6: because they let it out. They let a lot of 19 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 6: the veterans go, and you have young guys who are 20 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 6: very much you know, even though they say it's not 21 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 6: competition for uster spots at this point, these. 22 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 3: Guys are working. 23 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 4: Sure. 24 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 6: So we saw a lot of I thought we saw 25 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 6: fast stuff this week. Montery Brown made a nice play 26 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 6: near the goal line that I happened to see. So 27 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 6: there's some stuff that you like, and it it feels 28 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 6: like a team that's rested, ready, and you know, we'll 29 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,639 Speaker 6: be anxious to get back in late July. And except 30 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 6: for David White, a uninjured team, which was the whole goal. 31 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, Kilan Robinson made a couple of nice plays today 32 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: as well, the rookie running back out of Texas. So 33 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: a few guys flashing in this off season period. Head 34 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: coach Doug Peterson today before practice was asked about the 35 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: expectations for the players in the next month and a half. 36 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: Away definitely wanted. 37 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 7: To get away and Blacks and enjoyed this last you 38 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 7: know a little bit of summer before we start. But 39 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 7: at the same time, you know, the message is to 40 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 7: continue to work out, continue to run, you know, continue 41 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 7: to review the information that we gave them this offseason 42 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 7: so that when they come back, they come back ready, 43 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 7: they come back in shape, they come back mentally and physically, 44 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 7: you know, ready to go for train camp. 45 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: So I stuck Peterson earlier full press conference on Jaguars 46 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: dot Com. I've got a question for the former player, 47 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: that's bucky of course. So what is your balance of 48 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: the next five weeks as a player to be both 49 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: rested and relaxed and enjoy the off season, plus be 50 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: ready to roll once you show up for camp. 51 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is the most dangerous part of the off 52 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 5: season program for coaches and players. Like coaches in terms 53 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 5: of thinking about how their players are going to come 54 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 5: back into shape because all of the work that's been 55 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 5: done over the spring, you know, becoming a bigger, faster, 56 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 5: stronger version of yourself. When that can be lost if 57 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 5: you don't display the discipline necessary to. 58 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 4: Get ready for training camp. 59 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 5: You naturally want to maintain the same level of conditioning 60 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 5: and same level of like strength games that you made, 61 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 5: but you also want to give yourself some time. Normally 62 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 5: for players, fourth of July week or weekend, that's kind 63 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 5: of when it's the last kind of hang out vacation 64 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 5: stuff that you will do. Uh, take some time off, 65 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 5: get yourself ready. Take that week or fourth of July 66 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 5: to kind of like hang out, see your family, uh, 67 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 5: taking a vacation. But as soon as you come back 68 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 5: from that, you should be ramping up and trying to 69 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 5: put yourself in a position where you as a closed 70 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 5: to peak condition as you can be heading into training camp. 71 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 3: Sounds like Bucky had some Fourth of July. 72 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 5: I mean, that's that's that's that's the last time. I mean, 73 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 5: the fourth of July is kind of like the last 74 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 5: time that you can quote unquote let your hair down 75 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 5: before you got to get ready for the season. So 76 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 5: that's that's the date that everyone knows, so plan accordingly. 77 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: I got to hear some of the let the. 78 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: I don't want to yea details. 79 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: Come on, man, that sounds like. 80 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 5: Hanging that's the last time you can take you can 81 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 5: take your trips, if you can go to Cobo or 82 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 5: kind of lay out a little bit and have some 83 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 5: fun in the sun. 84 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 4: That's that's, that's what it is. 85 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 5: And after that you got to kind of lock in 86 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 5: and focus because you won't get any downtime into maybe 87 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 5: the bye week, depending upon the philosophy. 88 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 4: Of the coach. 89 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 8: Where did you go, Bucky? Like did was Cabo so 90 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 8: long ago? They talking about like thirty years. I can't 91 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 8: even I can vaguely remember last week. I can't remember. 92 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 5: Way back when I'm sure it involved uh uh some sand, 93 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 5: a body of water. Uh maybe through uh, like chips 94 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:53,559 Speaker 5: and guaq and oh some beverages. Yeah, nothing nothing, nothing heavy, 95 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 5: some light, some light stuff. 96 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 2: He really is uncomfortable talking about You could tell. 97 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 3: The change lot as long as long time ago. 98 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: Man, a long time ago. 99 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 4: We're coming up on an anniversary. 100 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 5: In terms of the thirtieth thing with with with the Jags, 101 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 5: I can't even remember way back I was in year two. 102 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 4: I don't I don't know, like, what are we doing what? 103 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 3: In terms of. 104 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 6: Mac Jones, who I know, JP was asking about my 105 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 6: son coming up on him later, But. 106 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I talked to Mac today as well. 107 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 3: Mac Jones well, and. 108 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 6: He seemed, you know, you talk about a guy who 109 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 6: has uh made an impact as a backup. When I 110 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 6: say made an impact, you can clearly see him out 111 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 6: in the field having fun loose. 112 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: Uh you know he Uh. 113 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 6: I think he's intriguing as an off season story because 114 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 6: of what this training. I mean, I guess because of 115 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 6: what this season might mean. And I guess I'm not 116 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 6: even asking the scout. I'm asking JP because he talked 117 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 6: to him. He seems to have taken a really great 118 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 6: approach to this. And I knows what it is, right. 119 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: It's clear what it is. I mean, there's nothing vague 120 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: about it. Trevor Lawrence is the quarterback here and he's 121 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: competing to be a reserve quarterback here, and that's what 122 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: it is, and you know, so he's had to embrace that. 123 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: And his reaction when he got the phone call about 124 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: the trade was like, Okay, well it's a place I know. 125 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: I know they have great coaches there, Doug Peterson, Mike McCoy, 126 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: guys who've played the position, so I can go embrace this. 127 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: It's the fourth and final year they didn't take the option, 128 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: so he's got a year to embrace it, to figure 129 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: some things out. And he's i think, really bought into 130 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: the whole thing. You can see that on the field 131 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: bucket during the practices, even without helmets and all that, 132 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: the energy he brings. 133 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: He's always talking. 134 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: After a play, either to a defender or the receiver 135 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: or whoever it is, sometimes to himself, but he's just 136 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: kind of into everything going on and that's a good sign. 137 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: And a change of scenery is not a bad thing 138 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: sometimes Now it's. 139 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 4: Not a bad thing. 140 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 5: I don't know if there's anyone having more fun this 141 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 5: offseason than Mac Jones just being around the team and 142 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 5: watching him kind of go into his thing. He's upbeat, 143 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 5: he's positive, he's jovial, he's doing all the things that 144 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 5: you want to see a kid who really loves the 145 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 5: game do. And I think it has probably been a 146 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 5: weight lifted off his back in terms of not having 147 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 5: the pressure being the starting quarterback. This gives him a 148 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 5: chance to compete with himself to see how good can 149 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 5: he be over the course of this preseason. How good 150 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 5: can he be when he has an opportunity to play 151 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 5: in the preseason. What can he learn from Doug Peterson 152 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 5: and the staff to set him up for success down 153 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 5: the road. I think he's really embracing that. And you know, 154 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 5: sometimes there can be a lot of pressure when you 155 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 5: go back to playing in your hometown, but it also 156 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 5: can be a comfort level and being home and seeing 157 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 5: your friends and seeing your family and those things. Maybe 158 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 5: he's just very, very comfortable being in Jacksonville. And maybe 159 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 5: that's why we're seeing this version of mac Jones appear. 160 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 5: Because I saw the little thing he did with the 161 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 5: rapper Mike Jones, which was funny. I mean, he is 162 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 5: just having the time of his life and I enjoy it. 163 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 4: But I think on the field. 164 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 5: This is a huge deal in terms of adding a 165 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 5: former first round pick to be a backup quarterback, someone 166 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 5: who has played at a Pro Bowl level before, someone 167 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 5: who is young enough and look talented enough that if 168 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 5: Trevor has to sit out a game or two, the 169 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 5: offense shouldn't skip a beat. I think this is a 170 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 5: move and this is not a knock to CJ. Bethard, 171 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 5: but I think when we get into training came in preseason, 172 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 5: I think you'll see the difference in talent show up 173 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 5: between mac Jones and CJ. 174 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 4: Bethard. 175 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 5: I think if he wins this QB two job, I 176 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 5: certainly believe it's a nice insurance policy to have behind 177 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence. 178 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: And just the look of practices this week, John, the 179 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: way the ball is thrown, I mean, it's a first 180 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: round quarter throwing the football right. It's not an undrafted, 181 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: you know, different league quarterback guy trying to make it somehow. 182 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: This guy's made it like he's in the league. He's 183 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: for a reason. 184 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, you can tell, and again shorts and hats is 185 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 6: the caveat, but you can tell in terms of a 186 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 6: quickness of decision zip on the ball, confidence in where 187 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 6: he's going with it. He's in three years played a 188 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 6: lot of NFL football. My final question to Bucky on 189 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 6: this topic would be, I wasn't around in New England 190 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 6: when he was there, obviously, so I don't know the details, 191 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 6: but I would think for Mac Jones being around Mike McCoy, 192 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 6: being around Press Taylor, being around Doug Peterson, I mean, 193 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 6: this is probably the most extensive quarterback NFL quarterback knowledge 194 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 6: specific I mean, I was a Belichick's Hall of Fame, 195 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 6: you know, knowledge guy. 196 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 3: But this might be the most intensive offensive experience he's had, right. 197 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean outside of like, you know, Josh mcdames 198 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 5: in the system that he had in place for him 199 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 5: his rookie season. 200 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that. 201 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 5: But I also think, and this is not a knock 202 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 5: to what the Patriots do and how the Patriot weigh 203 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 5: has led to a lot of success, but maybe he 204 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 5: needed to be kind of free from that very very 205 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 5: structured and very rigorous program to find something that I 206 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 5: won't say is a little more laid back, but the 207 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 5: people in charge of the program are a little more 208 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 5: laid back and maybe quarterback friendly, to kind of regain 209 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 5: his confidence and rediscover what made him specially when he 210 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 5: was at Alabama and look what made him a first 211 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 5: round pick. He certainly has talent. I mean, we could 212 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 5: say a lot of things about Mac Jones. He's a 213 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 5: first round player who played up to expectation that first 214 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 5: year and he got sideways for him. But once a 215 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 5: player plays at that level, they certainly can get back 216 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 5: to that level. So I want to make sure we 217 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 5: give him is just do in terms of what he's 218 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 5: been able to accomplish in this league. 219 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 2: Think's interesting. 220 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he hasn't really had to learn a new 221 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 1: offense too often in his either college or pro career 222 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: because he's he was at Alabama the whole four years 223 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: and then was in New England the first three years. 224 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: So it's really about the third time in the last 225 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: what do the math there seven years that he's had 226 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: to learn an offense. So that's been a key for 227 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: him this offseason, and having that help around him has 228 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: helped that process. 229 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 6: And it's one final thought there jab anyhow, And you 230 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 6: know it, Uh, it feels very naturally talking like this, 231 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 6: and but I've been around situations where guys who have 232 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 6: not worked out in a certain franchise come to another 233 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 6: one and and it's moody, they're sort of bitter, they're 234 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 6: not you know, whatever experience they have sort of jaded 235 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 6: him whatever. Even coming home. You don't know how a 236 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 6: guy's going to be. But I didn't know Mac. I 237 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 6: knew he went to Bowls, which I don't much like, 238 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 6: having gone to Episcopal, But beyond that, it's sort of 239 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 6: a breath of fresh air to see a kid who 240 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 6: genuine seems like a nice. 241 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 3: Kid who. 242 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 6: Hasn't been jaded by the experience and is sort of 243 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 6: embracing it. That's not an always thing in NFL, so. 244 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 4: It's not it's really it's really not. 245 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 5: But let's talk about like him being a former first 246 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 5: round pick and where this comes into play. So Doug 247 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 5: Peterson and I played together with the Green Bay Packers. 248 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 4: The Green Bay Packers. 249 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 5: Under Ron with Mike Hongren always had a belief that 250 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 5: you always wanted to kick the tires on former first 251 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 5: round picks because if the league saw fit that you 252 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 5: were worthy of being drafted in the first round, there's 253 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 5: a level of talent that is there, and sometimes a 254 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 5: talented player can underachieve in their previous destination and they 255 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 5: just simply need a new environment. 256 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 4: A new voice that can unlock those talents. 257 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 5: Then when it comes to the quarterback, Doug Peterson being 258 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 5: in the room in Green Bay, when we would bring 259 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 5: through Jim McMahon and Todd Deptmer and all of these 260 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 5: other guys who were i would say, decorated quarterbacks at 261 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 5: some level, be it in college or in the pros, 262 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 5: but they would kind of come through there. Well, part 263 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 5: of it is it's the most valuable position in football, 264 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 5: and you want to make sure that you always have 265 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 5: talented players in place to either develop and become the 266 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 5: backup to your starter so they in a pinch they 267 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 5: can go in and play, or you want to develop 268 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 5: them to the point that they can become a very 269 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 5: valuable trade commodity. With Mac Jones, because he's had success, 270 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 5: because he's played at a Pro Bowl level in the league, 271 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 5: he is someone that could be a bit of a 272 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 5: bonus pick for the Jaguars in terms of if he plays, 273 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 5: he has to jump in the game. Maybe he's someone 274 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 5: that you can action off at the trade inline, but 275 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 5: more important, maybe someone that just gives you another starter 276 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 5: behind Trevor Lawrence that we don't have to experience what 277 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 5: we went through last year. 278 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 4: Where Trevor is hurt and beat up. 279 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 5: Maybe you have enough confidence in the backup where you 280 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 5: are able to tell Trevor, hey Man, sit these couple 281 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 5: games out. 282 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 4: We're good. 283 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 5: The offense will operate just like it's done with you, 284 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 5: and we'll continue to win. So now we get a 285 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 5: healthier version of sixteen as opposed to the beat up 286 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 5: version that kind of limp to the finish at the 287 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 5: end of last season. 288 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 3: Can't have too many good players. 289 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, don't get rid of good players. The depth 290 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: is key. We're back in just a moment. We'll hear 291 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: from Josh Allen, who was at Mandatory Mini camp this week. 292 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: The Jaguars outside linebacker and the Jags are celebrating their 293 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: thirtieth season, and you don't want to miss a moment 294 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: of the action. 295 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 2: At the Bank. 296 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: Get access to exclusive experiences, event and player appearances all 297 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: season long when you become a season ticket member. 298 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: But that's not all. 299 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: Lock in your season tickets today and you'll be entered 300 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: for a chance to win an exclusive merch pack. This 301 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: is the Huddle Up pod Cast. 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Which of those bands 309 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: Bucky piques your interests the most? 310 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 4: Oh man? 311 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 5: You know, like there's so many, Like you know, I 312 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 5: would just want to be on a ticket where I 313 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 5: could just see them all because I love him so much, 314 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 5: outdore all of the different types of music. So you 315 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 5: could be so I would just want to I would 316 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 5: just want a ticket to see it all. 317 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd be a Daily's Place Blue member. This is 318 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 2: perfect for you. 319 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah the past. 320 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 5: Let me just go in and kind of pick and 321 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 5: choose what I want to go through, Like, how could 322 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 5: I turn it down? 323 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: I got I need a Blue pat. I think John's 324 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: more of a New Kids on the Block type, right, 325 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: I can. 326 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 8: See that you certainly are. 327 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't need that. 328 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: Wow, unbelievable. 329 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: Let's hear from Josh Allen, Jaguars outside linebacker was in 330 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: Arizona much of the off season. Well, he was part 331 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: of mandatory mini camp in Jacksonville, and he wants a 332 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: whole lot more. After signing a new deal, I. 333 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 4: Found out what works for me. 334 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 9: I'm gonna double up get better from that and improve mentally, 335 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 9: physically and emotionally, and now I can grow from there. 336 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 9: So for right now, man, I'm more mentally strong at 337 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 9: this point of my at this point of the season 338 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 9: that you know, it's just going to keep building from here. 339 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 9: I get to be with the guys, I get to 340 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 9: I get to tell them how I'm feeling, tell them 341 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 9: where I've been, tell them where I'm going, and really 342 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 9: encourage that. One of my goals is, you know, I'm 343 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 9: gonna win defensive for the year, you know, and for me, 344 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 9: I have to be tier one. I have to be 345 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 9: above tier one because these guys already solidified himself that 346 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 9: they're looking at. So for me, I have to, Okay, 347 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 9: this is what I want. But but then I'm talking 348 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 9: to Tyson, it's the same way I'm talking to Devin. 349 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:09,479 Speaker 4: What do you want to do? 350 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 9: I want to win defense? Play here, Well, you're gonna 351 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 9: have to beat me, so you're gonna have to work 352 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 9: and so like it's that, so now I know, like 353 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 9: this is what. 354 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 4: You want to do. 355 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 9: I'm gonna show you. You're gonna show me if you 356 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 9: slacking him? Oh you then you say you want people. 357 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 4: We don't. 358 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 9: People don't deferent players of years don't do that. 359 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 4: You know what I'm say. 360 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: They don't slap Josh Allen his full comments on Jaguars 361 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: dot Com Jaguars YouTube as well. And he looks like 362 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: he's in good shape obviously, and I love hearing him talk, 363 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: just to hear that mindset of a guy at a 364 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: top level. 365 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 6: Well, I thought he kind of hit his theme for 366 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 6: this year, and he was in that clip he said, 367 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 6: you know, he knows that people are saying, well, you 368 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 6: had a contractyear last year with seventy nine sacks, and 369 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 6: he sort of knows that that's gonna be the storyline, 370 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 6: and he's saying, you know what I did, But that's not. 371 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 3: Why he believes that he last year. 372 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 6: In Arizona that he has finally found his best way 373 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 6: to prepare. He went back, he said, double down on it, Bucky. 374 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 6: He looks better physically than he did last year. He 375 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 6: looks in his good physical shape as I've ever seen him. 376 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 6: But his point is, now that I know how. 377 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 3: To prepare, he's really going to go after. 378 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 6: It and show that it's not a contract here, that 379 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 6: he's just a good player, That it wasn't the contract 380 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 6: year that got him seventeen and a half sacks, it's 381 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 6: the fact that he's reached that level and now wants 382 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 6: to maintain it. I guess it's not the first time 383 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 6: I've heard that sort of sentiment from a player who's 384 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 6: signed a big contract, but I guess I sort of 385 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 6: believe it with Josh. 386 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 387 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 5: Look, I think there's a lot of things that go 388 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 5: with that in terms of believing in him and believing 389 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 5: that he can sustain that level of success. The thing 390 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 5: about it, though, is there's a level of pressure that 391 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 5: comes with getting paid, and when you're paid the big 392 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 5: bucks like he's being paid now, there's an expectation that 393 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 5: each and every week you're going to deliver, and he 394 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 5: understands that, and it's one thing to talk about it, 395 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 5: it's another thing to be about it. But right now, 396 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 5: when the Jaguars walk out on defense, all eyes are 397 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 5: on forty one, because if he wants to be mentioned 398 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 5: in the same category as the TJ. Watts of the world, 399 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 5: the Miles Garrett of the worlds to Michael Parsons of 400 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 5: the world. 401 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 4: Well, now you got to do it every week. 402 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 5: And it's not about having a great year, it's about 403 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 5: having a great career. And can you take the seventeen 404 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 5: and a half sex and give me close to that 405 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 5: same number this year? 406 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 4: Easier said, hard to do. 407 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 5: Hard to do when you have a target on the 408 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 5: back from the opposing team. But when you get paid 409 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 5: like he's getting paid, that's the expectation that no matter 410 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 5: what man, you expect him to make an impact on 411 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 5: the game each and every week. 412 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, and that is a challenge for Josh. Even last 413 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 6: year he had a lot of big SAT games. There 414 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 6: are some years he didn't have sex. I'm not I 415 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 6: always think about that a little differently than I guess 416 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 6: a lot of fans do. I don't necessarily think a 417 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 6: pass rusher is all sacks. I think pressures that. I 418 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 6: think sacks can be hard to get because the circumstances sometime. 419 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 6: But I don't doubt that Josh will impact games consistently. 420 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 2: I do. 421 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 3: I do worry a little bit about. 422 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 6: If he quote only gets fifteen people saying well you paid. 423 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 3: Him fifteen is pretty good too. 424 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 6: But I guess my point that is, I don't worry 425 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 6: about Josh from the standpoint of I think he finds 426 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 6: ways to impact games no matter what his numbers are, 427 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 6: So I think his value to the team will be 428 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 6: high no matter what his numbers are. 429 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, think about it this way too, 430 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: If all of a sudden there is more interest in 431 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: blocking him or covering him from an offensive back, if 432 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: that opens up some other guys on this defensive by 433 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker, I mean, you know, talking about taking steps. No, 434 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: he's taking steps in the right direction anyway, And if 435 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: some of the focus changes, then all of a sudden, 436 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: Trayvon can get loose or somebody else in that front seven. 437 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 438 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 4: So I'm really excited. I'm really excited about the team. 439 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 5: And I know I was excited last year, but I'm 440 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 5: excited about this team for different reasons. One, I feel 441 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 5: like they're flying under the radar. Two, I really think 442 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 5: offensively they're going to get back to kind of being 443 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 5: the team that we saw more so in twenty twenty 444 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 5: two as opposed to twenty twenty three. But defensively, I'm 445 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 5: excited about the changes and what Ryan Nilson has the 446 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 5: opportunity to do with the players that he has at 447 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 5: his disposal. 448 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 4: When I think. 449 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 5: About Josh Allen being motivated to be a defensive Player 450 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 5: of the Year, Eric Armstead coming over with something to prove, 451 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 5: and Trayvon Walker beginning to come into his own, I 452 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 5: think the three highly motivated people that want to kind 453 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 5: of make their mark on the league. That to me 454 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 5: is going to result and look a lot of splash 455 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 5: play production, a lot of big time plays from each 456 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 5: of these guys, and I just can't wait to see 457 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 5: how they're going to put it together. But Trayvon Walker 458 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,479 Speaker 5: should be the beneficiary, the biggest beneficiary of the attention 459 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 5: that Josh Allen commands and Eric Armstead being the consummate 460 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 5: professional beside him, I think we will see his game 461 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 5: go from good to great this season. 462 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 6: Well, it's three guys, and some teams have this, but 463 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 6: not all of them. Certainly, I've been around a lot 464 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 6: of teams that haven't. It's three guys on your defensive 465 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 6: front that if you're sitting in here in January and 466 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 6: any of those three are in the Pro Bowl, you're thinking, Okay, 467 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 6: I can see that. But like talent wise, clearly, Trayvon 468 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 6: Walker and everyone overall picked ten sacks last year is 469 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 6: what I would call a Pro Bowl talent. I don't 470 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 6: know if HEAs guy hasn't gotten there yet. Eric Armstead 471 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 6: is a Pro Bowl talent. There are all three reasons 472 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 6: the coaches won't be surprised on Monday morning if they 473 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 6: turn on the tape and say, Trayvon Walker or Eric 474 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 6: Armstead or Josh Allen were the reason that we were 475 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 6: dominant yesterday. Everybody else can do that. But you probably 476 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 6: walking out of the meeting going, hey, look at this guy. 477 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 3: All three of those. 478 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 6: Guys are impact, change the game type defensive players. Seventeen 479 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 6: this team had at eighteen. 480 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 3: A little bit doesn't happen every. 481 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 2: Year, certainly, just not certainly, No, no, it doesn't happen 482 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: every year. 483 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 4: But remember, like this defense. 484 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 5: I think this defense ranked with sixteen or seventeen, Like 485 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 5: they don't have to make a major improvement, but if 486 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 5: they can just get on the fringes of being a 487 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 5: top ten defense man, you just talk about how many 488 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 5: good things can happen for this team if they're able 489 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 5: to do that, and if the team can stop the 490 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 5: run first, and then the pass rush shows up. That's 491 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 5: gonna make life easy for the guys in the back end, 492 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 5: because remember they're gonna play snugger tired or more press coverage, 493 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 5: more man deament on the outside. That should shrink some 494 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 5: of the wins those that were available in the past. 495 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 5: It could be a big thing. Now there's a lot 496 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 5: of speculation, and we're pending our hopes on the upside. 497 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 5: But I think this unit can be a lot better, 498 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 5: far more physical and disruptive than maybe we've seen this 499 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 5: unit in the past. 500 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 4: And that says a lot considering the amount of. 501 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 5: Tune overs that this team produced, this defense produced the 502 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 5: last two years. 503 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 6: It was my final question of the off season for 504 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 6: the Scout. Wow, the scout maybe the coach slash analysts 505 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 6: slash scout slash party guy. 506 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, we found out earlier in this show. Why wouldn't 507 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 3: this team be really good against the run? 508 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 4: Bucky? 509 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 3: Meaning, you know, you've got I think. 510 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 6: One trait that Josh, Trayvon and Eric Armstead all three had. 511 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 6: They seem very stout. You also have Davon Hamilton. I 512 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 6: mean to me, this shapes up like it could be 513 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 6: a really really good defensive front. Maybe again, we're just 514 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 6: looking at the upside, injuries, whatever. But I think that 515 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 6: could be the thing that we're not thinking about that much, 516 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 6: or they could really be good. 517 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 5: I'm with you on that this unit in a different 518 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 5: defense could be a lot better than people imagine, because 519 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 5: the talent is certainly there when you look at the 520 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 5: front line, however you stack it, Josh Allen, Eric Armstead, 521 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 5: Chevron Walker on the outside, whoever you want to put 522 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 5: on the inside were Robertson Harris, you want to put 523 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 5: Hamilton inside? Like whoever you want to put inside like? 524 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 5: They're good enough on the front four. When you look 525 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 5: at the linebacker corps before you, a Lua Khan and 526 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 5: a beefed up better version of Devin Lloyd playing like that. 527 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 5: Front six can be able to get it done. However 528 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 5: you reconfigure the Nickel package. They have enough guys that 529 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 5: you can throw into the slot positions to be stout 530 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 5: against the run, to take advantage of the edges, and 531 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 5: to make tackles in space. I don't know why this 532 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 5: team wouldn't be good if they're sound, if they're solid, 533 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 5: and they didn't understand exactly what to do. To me, 534 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 5: is not about the talent. It's really about the execution. 535 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 5: Can these talented athletes up front just execute the plan 536 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 5: that Ryan Nilson has in mind, Because if the execution 537 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 5: is cool and it's simple and they can play fast, 538 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 5: this team is good enough to overwhun you with their talent. 539 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 3: Playoffs. 540 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 2: Wow, bold, lock it down like you think that's bold. No, 541 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 2: it's good, Jem. 542 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 5: Yet the team is nine and eight back to back years, 543 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 5: and I know there's a feeling in Jacksonville like the 544 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 5: sky was falling, but the team still finished with a 545 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 5: winning record. It's not like a team is having to 546 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 5: go from worse to first. The talent has been there 547 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 5: and despite Albert Breer from SI saying that they least 548 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 5: impactful moves of the off season, to me, they made 549 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 5: the right moves uh to help this team get. 550 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 4: Over the hump. 551 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 5: So I would expect the team to be much better 552 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 5: than nine and eight, Like you have to get to 553 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 5: ten or eleven wins, and to me, I think it's 554 00:26:58,800 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 5: a doable deal. 555 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 4: But everyone just has to play. 556 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 5: They got to play their part if they play, and 557 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 5: I'm not saying they have to play exceptional, but if 558 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 5: everyone just kind of does their job, not being like 559 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 5: way out of bows or they got to make these 560 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 5: quantum leaps. If they just do their job and just 561 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 5: play the way that they've played for most of the 562 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 5: NFL careers, this team is going to win ten or 563 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 5: eleven games. 564 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 2: Wow, I love it. I love it. 565 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 6: I agree, I love I'm enthusiastic, optimistic, and ready for 566 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 6: the off season. 567 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 2: The off season. 568 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: Well wait no longer, John, because we have arrived at 569 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: the off season. Next big date to watch in this 570 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: off season is June twenty fifth. That is the hope 571 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: for the city council vote on the stadium agreement, So 572 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: keep an eye on that. Then official report day for 573 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: training camp is July twenty third, a Tuesday. They're on 574 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: the field and there's an acclamation period for like five days. 575 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: I think the first five days, starting on the twenty 576 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: fourth of July, it's a Wednesday, they'll be on the field. 577 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 3: So that nation period when Bucky played was go hit somebody. 578 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was putting your uniform in pads on that 579 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: first day. 580 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 5: That's right, let's go right to it, Like, why are 581 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 5: we messing around. Let's get right to smack it. I 582 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 5: know Toba has change everything, but the pitta pads and 583 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 5: let's get to it. 584 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 4: Get to work. 585 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 2: What beat you you going to the summer Bucky Like. 586 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I mean, I'm I'm I'm I'm in 587 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 5: La Like, I mean, I don't know what I would do, 588 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 5: like what point out? I mean, I don't know because 589 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 5: Santa Monica. Maybe I go down to Laguna kind of 590 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 5: hang out in Newport for a little bit. 591 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 4: I don't know, trying. 592 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 3: To tear down. 593 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: Do you have a surfboard, Bucky Living? Do you have 594 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 2: a surfboard? 595 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 4: No, I don't have a surfboard. I should probably work 596 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 4: on that. I should probably work on. 597 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 5: That, but then you know, I don't want to fall 598 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 5: man like like, Look, the water can be like a 599 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 5: little a little hard, like you know for the old body. 600 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 5: I don't know if that's I don't know if that's 601 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 5: always can do so for what I want to do 602 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 5: and how I want to walk around later, but maybe 603 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 5: we'll see. 604 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: I mean, never mind the sharks and you know the 605 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: dangerous animals. 606 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 5: Come on, man, jaw Jaws isn't out there, like like 607 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 5: come on, like, what are we doing? You're talking about 608 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 5: gators and crocodiles and all the animals down. 609 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,479 Speaker 1: There far we're talking about were swimming in the ponds 610 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: either yeah. 611 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 4: And the muck straight from them. Get it out the muck. 612 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 3: Come on, if I can't see the bottom, I'm not 613 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 3: going in. 614 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 2: So it's a good rule, all right, Buck, have a 615 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:38,479 Speaker 2: great off season. 616 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 4: It should be fun. I guess I'll see you guys 617 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,479 Speaker 4: in what six six weeks? That's that's that's how much 618 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 4: time I get off. 619 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 5: I get six six weeks off to run around and 620 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 5: make sure I come making the best shape of my 621 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 5: life when I report the training camp. 622 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 2: Are you actually gonna report? Will you be here? 623 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 4: Ye? See? You see? We gotta see. 624 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 2: Pretty long. More than that, we'll talk to you, Buck. 625 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 2: You have a good one. Bucky Brooks, John Oser, I'm 626 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 2: j P. Shadwick Er. 627 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: Thanks to Brent Reeber and Joe Fortunado, and thanks to 628 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: you for listening all off season program to the Huddle 629 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: Up Podcast.