1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: I get started really early with my with my mom 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: pissing me off about something, and she didn't give me 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: fifty cents to go to the store or whatever. Let 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: me understand the process. I would be in my room 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: like hime is. 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: She wouldn't give me fifty cents, and I really wanted 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: to watching my calling. 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: This a talented You know, I didn't think it was talent. 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: I didn't think about it at all. It was just 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: something that made me feel better. That's what music does 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: for me, and it still does all this time later. 12 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for watching, guys. 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 3: Today's episode is brought to you by boost Mobile. 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 4: She stands as one of the most vital and essential 15 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 4: voices of our time, a poet, a singer, a storyteller, 16 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 4: a wordsmith. 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 3: I just added that I love it because we were 18 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 3: talking my words. Her work continues to shape the sonic 19 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 3: and spiritual landscape of R and B, soul and hip hop, 20 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:08,919 Speaker 3: and she prepares to release her. 21 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: First album in nearly a decade. 22 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 3: The amazing and magical Jill Scott is our guest today 23 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 3: on IR. We're going to have good words today. We 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 3: might have a little sip on something today, as we should. 25 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: As we should, as we should. 26 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: Hi beautiful, Hi beautiful, We're so good to see you. 27 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: We're highs. 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 3: What you've been doing? 29 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: Where have I been? Where have I been? Literally around 30 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: the world a lot. I've traveled so much in this 31 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: last ten years and really focused on I don't know, 32 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm raising this boy. You know, it's really important time 33 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: between nine, I would say, and thirteen, that time right there, 34 00:01:58,680 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: that was a chunk. 35 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 3: Why that time, specifically. 36 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: Because they are growing into this puberty thing, so before 37 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: all the hormones take over. I wanted to make sure 38 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: that I got in there well, into his heart, into 39 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: his mind, and find out who I'm dealing with, because 40 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, I have this one kid. So I just 41 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: wanted to do it right. I wanted to do it right. 42 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: I wanted to do it right. I worked a lot 43 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: during that time, but you know I also was home. 44 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: I also got a chance to be present in his 45 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: everyday thoughts. 46 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 5: Wow. 47 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was good for us. 48 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: So this is a conscious decision, right for you feel like, 49 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 3: I mean, you still work, but yeah, just to not 50 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: to slow down. It was definitely a slow down. 51 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: It's important. Yeah. And no music, well, I needed to 52 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: lift some you know, I always make music, always. 53 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: That's so interesting because somebody like you. So I just 54 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: imagine that you have stuff like bursting out of your 55 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 3: creative things all the time, challenging to not react to 56 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 3: it right away or to I don't know, you have 57 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 3: an idea, don't you want to go. 58 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: Get it out? World? 59 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 3: Not really. 60 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to do what I wanted to do. That 61 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: was the goal, like the whole goal from the very beginning. 62 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: I want to live the kind of life I want 63 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: to live. I want to take naps during the day 64 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: if I want to. I want to make a garden 65 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 1: if I want to. I want to redecorate my house, 66 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: if I want to do a little demolishing and starting 67 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: over renovations. I want to be there for my person. 68 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: You know, this kid that God gifted me with. I 69 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: want to make sure he's straight and that he solid 70 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: you know, emotionally and mentally as much as I can. 71 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: I want to make sure my mother was straight, you know. 72 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: And I wanted to really want to be outside. I've 73 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: really needed to want that and I'll do I'm here 74 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: choice now, right, it is a choice. So the plan is, 75 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: well it was and still is that you work hard 76 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: in your twenties. You work smart in your thirties, you 77 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: work how you want to in your forties, you work 78 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: when you want to in your fifties, and you work 79 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: if you want in your sixties. That came really early, 80 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: and that's the way that I'm planning my life. 81 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: Wow. 82 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I told you you you You came to you 83 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: and you came to me, and I was like, yeah, 84 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: that's how I want it, just like that. So this 85 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: is what it is. I'm working when I want to, 86 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: and it feels really good to be able to do it. 87 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 3: That's amazing. 88 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: My fan base is incredibly blessed. Oh they wait for you. 89 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: Everybody's saying it's okay, like take as much time as 90 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 3: unique because when you come back, we are here, we 91 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: are ready, we are we are excited. 92 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: I'm so happy to hear that. 93 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 3: How does he receive the fact that you have taken 94 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 3: this role so seriously? Not that all mothers don't, but 95 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 3: there is this there's a seriousness to how you took it, 96 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: how you success. 97 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 98 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, well not everybody is bless enough to be able 99 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: to make that decision. 100 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: I'm very grateful for that time, very grateful and all 101 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: the other time that I have with him to help 102 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: guide him. I love him. I love him, and I 103 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: like him. He's a good dude. He's funny, he's charismatic, 104 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: he's cool, he's thoughtful, he's very talented, and I'm just 105 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: grateful to watch his whole process you. 106 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: See making music, and he's doing. 107 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: A lot of things that I won't really him. It's 108 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: his Yeah, whenever you're ready, kid, you know, whenever you 109 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: want to. I probably won't find out, you know, what 110 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: he's doing until he's ready to show me. So he 111 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: did a couple of things at school and I was 112 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: like why, I had no idea, so proud, just just tickled. Tickled. 113 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 3: That must be hard when you're the mom. Yeah, the 114 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: level of creative, like if you're a if he's a 115 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 3: creative and he's if it's music or whatever arts, Yeah, 116 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 3: and he's got to bring the arts to you. 117 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: Well, he does it in his own time because it's his. 118 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: Like for me, I kept my voice to myself because 119 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: it was mine and I needed my voice. It calmed 120 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: me when I was stressed out, It encouraged me when 121 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: I felt like I couldn't, you know, do something, What 122 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: do you mean you kept your voice to yourself? I 123 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: really didn't. I didn't really sing in public for a time, 124 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: for a long time. I did it once and it 125 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: was great. I got a standing ovation. I thought I 126 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: was fourteen and it was a freshman day at my 127 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: high school and I sang a song. 128 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: And nobody knew that you had these pipes right, No, 129 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 3: but you know you've been in the shower singing. 130 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: I didn't judge it. I just knew it made me 131 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: feel good, that it just calmed me. And it, you know, 132 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: like it started really early with my with my mom 133 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: pissing me off about some then and she didn't give 134 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: me fifty cents to go to the store or whatever 135 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: you need to let me understand the process. I would 136 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: be in my room like, hi, mon is so me. 137 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: She wouldn't give me fifty cents, And I really wanted 138 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: to watching my calling. 139 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: My this talent. You know, I didn't think it was talent. 140 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: I didn't think about it at all. It was just 141 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: something that made me feel better. That's what music does 142 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: for me, and it still does all this time later. 143 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: It's the same. 144 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 3: So because your instrument is just I mean, what is 145 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: your relationship with your instrument? I know, internally it soothes you, 146 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 3: it does all those things, but you must have a 147 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 3: very high regard for it, right like, no, do you? 148 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: It is a gift? Right? Yes? Yeah? Yeah? So do 149 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: you protect it? Do you? 150 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 3: Does it find you? 151 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: It's a part of my life, and that's the way 152 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: I look at it. 153 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 3: It's you. 154 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: No, I'm a lot of things. I'm not one thing. 155 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: I've never I don't ever recall being one thing. You know. 156 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: I think I'm sweet, but I also think I'm spicy. 157 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: I think that I'm intelligent, but I could do dumb shit, 158 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like and and my voice 159 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: is one portion of my existence and I love it. 160 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: The best thing I can do for it sometimes is 161 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: to just be quiet. That helps. But it's the the 162 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: writer in me comes before the singer and wow, because 163 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: I have to have something to say. If I don't 164 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: have anything to say, what am I singing for? What's 165 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: this about? What's this all about? Because the writing tells 166 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: me the emotion. And I'm like a big advocate for 167 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: like on a monopoeia remember that from elementary school. 168 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 3: I kind of do yeah until just now, I got't 169 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: forgotten about it forever. 170 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: It's like zap, how that the words should sound like 171 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: it should sound like what you're saying. So joy has 172 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 1: a little extra in it. Love love, It's soft, it floats, 173 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: you know. And that's the way I look at the writing. 174 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 1: So the words tell me how to sing the song. Wow, 175 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: So I have to have the words first wow for me? Anyway, Yeah, 176 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: I wonder how is that common amongst peers? I don't know. 177 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: The words are everything, Like, even with acting, what is 178 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: the script doing? 179 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 3: You know? 180 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: What does the script say? You know? Luckily I've been 181 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: able to maneuver at times with some of the words, 182 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: and it depends on the director. 183 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 3: So even with your acting, the sound of the words 184 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 3: informs you words. 185 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: The sound and the words informed the emotion. 186 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 3: Wow. 187 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: If I don't have anything to say, then I'm just 188 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: my soul just be humming. 189 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 3: That's so funny because when we started this talk today 190 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 3: we were saying the words yes. Isn't that How did 191 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 3: we get to that? My brain? 192 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: We're defining journalism? Oh yes, yes, I said, I said, 193 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you watching you, you know, be 194 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: this this journalist, Like I don't think I'm a journalist, 195 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: and I'm like I think you are. You ask important 196 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: questions or heartfelt questions or are two people that are 197 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: in this industry, and they talk to you honestly and openly. 198 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: That's interesting. We set the tone of this conversation about words. Oh, 199 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: let's get it. Yay, We're gonna take a quick little break. 200 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 3: If I had your voice, I would sing all the time, Jim, Like, 201 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 3: this is why God didn't give me your gift or 202 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 3: a gift similar to yours, because I would be so 203 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 3: annoying with it, like God woulds. 204 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: I probably have been annoying at some point. I remember 205 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: friends telling me to shut the funk up. No, it's possible, jil, 206 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: let's direct clock it up. Just shot the fuck up. 207 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: And you're like, because I had a whole bunch on 208 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: my mind, that's kind of how it works. 209 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's yummy. 210 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: You like it? 211 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 3: I do? 212 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: Okay, okay to longevity, Yeah, passion, fun. 213 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 3: And bus. 214 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: Nice. 215 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 216 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: That's good. Jill, me me, me, me, me me, that's 217 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: gonna be good. 218 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 3: All right, this interview is about to take a turn, guys, 219 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 3: because we've just added another layer to our conversation. 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I've been waiting to speak from 241 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: this position where I've had a life, okay, a whole 242 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: life filled with with definitely some disruption, some disappointments, some passion, 243 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: thank you. 244 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 6: Some we're just going somewhere, of course, good for you, 245 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 6: Thank you kindly, some some wealth, some lack, you know, 246 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 6: And I really like to dig into those things, you know, 247 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 6: like when I'm i I have to say that when 248 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 6: I'm when I'm sad, I really allow it. 249 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: I don't I don't fight it. I'm gonna go ahead 250 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: and just feel the feeling. If I want to cry again, 251 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do at. And when I'm finished, I'm finished. 252 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: I feel like that's the only way to now. I 253 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: know that that's the only way to move through life. 254 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: Other than that, you know, it's just a covering it 255 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: up and pretending that everything is okay. 256 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 3: It's so good. It's like when you fall down, when 257 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 3: you try to break your fall, it takes so much longer, 258 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 3: it's so much sloppier. You could actually hurt yourself more more. 259 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 3: Whereas if you just kind of. 260 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: Just you've seen people on ice, like you know, we've 261 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: seen it, maybe if you just slide with that thing, 262 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: you know, maybe you should. Yeah. I saw my grandmother 263 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: do it, and uh, my grandfather had passed away, and 264 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: we came into the house and she was on the 265 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: floor and she was crying. Oh god, that sound that sound, 266 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: because he was wonderful. I have had some beautiful men 267 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: in my life. I'm very, very very grateful for that. 268 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: My my grandmother laid on that floor and she cried, 269 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: and I don't know, maybe all day it was terrible 270 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: sounds coming from there in her room. And then the 271 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: next morning, I guess that's what it took her. She 272 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: cried all night, sobbed and moaned and yelled sometimes it 273 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: was scary. My mother and I kind of slept on 274 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: the floor outside of her room, just in case. And 275 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: she got up, fried some fish, made some grits, and 276 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: we had her biscuits, and it was as if not 277 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: that nothing had happened. But she was done. She did 278 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: what she had to do. We knew he wasn't well, 279 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: we knew it was a matter of time. No, No, 280 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: I was a child. Those things have really big impact 281 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: on your life. What did for me just watching her 282 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: go through that process, I was like, that's how you 283 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: deal with it. That's a woman. Oh so you were 284 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: young and were taught how to grieve. I was taught 285 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: how to do a lot of things. I wanted to 286 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: watch my my women, my aunt and my mom and 287 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: my grandmom, you know, be be adults. I thought it 288 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: was fantastic. I couldn't wait to wear big rings, big 289 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: range and big bracelets and big glasses. Oh I could 290 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: have waited. I could have wait, And I feel like 291 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: this is that error for me? You know, now I'm 292 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: here and that's interesting. Yeah, this is good. I'm grown grown. 293 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 3: I see that I'm grown grown too. But I gotta 294 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 3: tell you, sometimes I feel like I'm in my grown 295 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 3: grown bag and I'm and I got this. I know this, 296 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 3: I've done this, I've felt this. But even in this 297 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 3: big grown age, sometimes it surprises you sometimes, just when 298 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 3: you think you have it all figured out. 299 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: Shock and all. 300 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 3: Shock and motherfucking all. 301 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: I just had a moment like that. 302 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 3: You know that. Yeah, we got a lot of shit 303 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 3: figured out at a big age, yes, but life, We'll. 304 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: Keep teaching you absolutely. But as you grow and as 305 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: you age, you learn how to handle the twist and 306 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: turns you might. For me, I sometimes have to just 307 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: get still, like, Okay, that was a lot. Let me 308 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: just let me just sit down. Okay, I'll make a 309 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: good cup of coffee. You know, I'll call one of 310 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 1: my incredible friends and be expressively honest. And I have oh, 311 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: even the weeding of friends. Oh, it's delightful. Talk to 312 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: me about that, oh that part. I have friends, Okay, 313 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: my best friend in the world, the only person I 314 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: have ever called best friend, has been my best friend 315 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: since I was two years old. Too. I'm fifty three. 316 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: We live friends for fifty one. We've never had an 317 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: argument in our lives. 318 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 3: I have one since eight I blessed, so I know 319 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: exactly that is that. That is one of the greatest blessings. 320 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: It is one of the greatest blessings. And then the 321 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: rest of my beautiful friends, we're you know, we're twenty 322 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: somebody years in, thirty years in of great friendship. And 323 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: some people they fall off. They just have to go 324 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: for multiple reasons. Sometimes people are toxic, and I know 325 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: that's a word that people use, but I mean bad energy. 326 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: I mean or toxic for you, toxic just for me, 327 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: like some things I can't do with you Like that 328 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: just doesn't say good. I don't. My mother told me 329 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: a long time ago when it came to like drug 330 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: dealers and people in the neighborhood. I'm like, but he's 331 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: so nice, Mommy's such a great guy. You know, he 332 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: lets me read him at gar Allan Poe. You know, 333 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: he wants me to read him. He wrote me to 334 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: read him stories. And she's like, bullets don't have names. 335 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: So your energy that you're carrying and the way that 336 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: you move and the things that you do, the bullet 337 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: doesn't happening. I might, I might get caught in the 338 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 1: crossfire of your foolishness. I'm'a let you go. I'm'a let 339 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: you go. And at this age, baby, my sword is hot, 340 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: it's sharp, it's black so you can't see it in 341 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: the dark, and it will charterize before you know you're dead. 342 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 3: Mm mm. 343 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: And I have no negative feelings about it. I just 344 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: feel like a ninjob out of my life. 345 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 3: That is fantastic. 346 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. 347 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 3: What is usually the cause of that, I know, toxic energy. 348 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: But like for you, one of the reasons that I'll 349 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: cut somebody out is if they like their bullshit too much. 350 00:19:52,480 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: You know, some folk, if you cannot afford the thing, 351 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: don't buy the thing and then come to me to 352 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: help you out with major life things, major life bills. 353 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: You know you need. You're going on a holiday, A holiday, okay, 354 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: a vacation, No, A trip is a week. A vacation 355 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: is two weeks. And a holiday is a month and over. 356 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: You've going on a holiday, but you don't have your mortgage. Okay, 357 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: maybe you needed that, I understand. But the next time, oh, 358 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: in a time after that, where we come. Yeah, because 359 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: that's enough. That's enough. You're not responsible with your life 360 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: and your finance. So why on earth should I help 361 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: you be irresponsible? Why should I put myself? Seven hundred 362 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: dollars is the same to use it as the met babe, 363 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: I could. I could fill my house with groceries with 364 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: seven hundred dollars. I could buy myself a nice little 365 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: pair of shoes. I could help a friend who needs it. 366 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: It could be seven hundred or seven thousand, or seventy thousand, 367 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. I can't play with you 368 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: when you're playing with your finance. I won't do it. 369 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: So a lot of family members got cut off because 370 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: I won't. I won't do it with you. You do 371 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: it too often, And old Jim won't come serve today. No, 372 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: she's not. 373 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 3: That blade is brutal. 374 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: It's over. Yeah, And sometimes you know, I just give 375 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: somebody the money and let them go go where they 376 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: gotta go. 377 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 3: My mother always said. My mother always says, don't never 378 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,959 Speaker 3: lend anybody money. Yeah, if you're willing to give somebody 379 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 3: money to help them, and that's cool, and then if 380 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 3: you get it. 381 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: Back, it's like aboute it's amazing. 382 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 3: But if you give somebody money, give it with the 383 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 3: intention of you're probably never going to see it again, right, 384 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 3: so that you don't get disappointed. And if also you 385 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 3: don't have it to give away, don't lend it. 386 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: If you ask me for a loan, I'm gonna give 387 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: you a loan. You expect it back because we're we're 388 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: adult here. 389 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's an agreement. 390 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: Yes, it's an agreement, and I'm not gonna break you, 391 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: so I'm not. Obviously you needed help, so if you 392 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: you've got to pay me back, twenty five dollars a 393 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: month should not break you, okay, But if you don't 394 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: keep up with that twenty five dollars or fifty dollars 395 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: or one hundred dollars, however much we agreed on, and 396 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: I think I'm being kind, this is a no interest loan, okay. 397 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna need you to respect our agreement. So 398 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: the next time if you need me, I'm there for 399 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: you because you have respect for my work. This is 400 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: my work and my mother. You know, my mother lives 401 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: on a cruise ship. 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How do you 448 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 3: handle like grief or sadness of those moments. There's a 449 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 3: lot of baths, baths because you said you give it 450 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 3: a time and then there's a cutoff. 451 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: I give myself as long as it takes. But but 452 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: I have it. I don't half have it. You know. 453 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: It might be some yelling and some screaming. You know, 454 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: it's it's long walks, literally, they're still good to me. 455 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: It's long baths. It's conversations with friends at three or 456 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: four o'clock in the morning. It's maybe a little trip. 457 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: I might have to do that. I've had to do 458 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: that before. You know. Let me get away from everybody 459 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: because I'm no good you know those things. That's how 460 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: I pretty much deal with it. And I might buy 461 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: myself something that I really want, you know, like life 462 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: is still good, you know whatever, or or I'll make 463 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: a donation to something that matters to me. You know 464 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I use money. I use it for 465 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: my betterment, and I think that's the way for me. Now. 466 00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: I understand that it's a tool and I should use 467 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: it and enjoy and see the world as much as 468 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: possible and give back to my community too. It makes 469 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: me happy. You can't tell me nothing. 470 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 3: You're a happy person overall though. 471 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: No, most of the time. Yeah, most of the time. 472 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: I live in enjoy. 473 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 3: Good for you. 474 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: My mentor talks about it all the time. 475 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 3: Who's your mentor? 476 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 1: Pamela Macklin. She is incredible, full of life, very funny, 477 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: very open and raw and honest with me. Has been 478 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: a support system, whether it's with my kid or in 479 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: my relationships or in my career, in my fashion. You know, 480 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: she's just she's a grand dame and I'm watching her 481 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: and loving her. 482 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 3: What is the relationship like of a mentor to you? 483 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: Like? 484 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 3: What is that? Is that a daily thing? Is that 485 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 3: a weekly thing? Is that just you watching and being inspired? 486 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 3: Is that? What is that? 487 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: It's when in need or when it comes up. I 488 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: can just think of her and she'll call me. 489 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 5: You know. 490 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: I could think of her and she'll call my kid. 491 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: You know, I could think of her and she'll call 492 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: my partner. Like she's She's very present in my existence. 493 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: So that's pretty much how it works for my my 494 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: I have mentees. Sometimes I don't talk to them, you know, 495 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: for a year or two, but then I'll know or 496 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,719 Speaker 1: they'll know or need me for something and call. And 497 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: then now we're seeing each other like three four times 498 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: a month, which is crazy because we haven't seen each other, 499 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, that much. But now we're we're right back connected. 500 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: Friendships like that, mentorship like that. You don't need to 501 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: call somebody every day. No, it's not. 502 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that. 503 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 1: You have a mentor, you know. 504 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 3: I don't really have a mentor. That's why I ask 505 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 3: it is so interesting to me. I never I have 506 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 3: people that influence me or I have resources. My mother's 507 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 3: always been my kind of mentor in a way. Yeah, 508 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 3: you know, but no, I've a I've always kind of like, 509 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 3: That's why I asked that. It's so interesting to me 510 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 3: when I think there's so much value to I have mentees, 511 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 3: people that I kind of coach along the way. But no, 512 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 3: is it too late, No, I can go get me 513 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 3: one now, No, I can go give me one now. 514 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: I think about it this way, like, oh my god, 515 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: I'm twenty almost twenty six years into this industry, which 516 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: is very cool to me because a lot of people 517 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: don't last that long. But then I'm looking at my 518 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: beloved Gladys Knight, who was you know, fifty plus years 519 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: and Patty LaBelle fifty plus years, and the fantastic Chaka Khan, 520 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: you know, fifty plus years, like Dione Warwick, like, oh, 521 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: sixty plus years, Smoky Robinson, what is that? How much 522 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: time is that? 523 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 8: Like? 524 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: God darn, and to remain samee, you know, to remain loving, 525 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: to like enjoy the fruits of their labor, like it's beautiful. 526 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: I just love to see it. And that's what a 527 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: month from myself. 528 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 3: Let's talk about now where you're at, because music's coming, 529 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 3: which is very exciting. The world is very different, by 530 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 3: the way, Yes, the world is the music business and 531 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 3: just I don't know, the whole space is so much 532 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 3: different than the last time you put music out. How 533 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 3: does that feel for you? Is that exciting? 534 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: Is that weird? I don't know. I heard you. You'll 535 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,719 Speaker 1: think about that. I don't. I don't think about it. 536 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: I think about can I get butts in seats? Because 537 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: publishing is messed up, you know, getting a percentage of 538 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: a penny for a song that you worked it could 539 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: be a month, could be three months, could be all night, 540 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: could have been an but nonetheless, you worked on it, 541 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: and you hired musicians, and you're in a studio, and 542 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: you know all of those things, Like to get a 543 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: percentage of a penny is so disrespectful. I can't Oh, 544 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: it hurts my feelings so much. And I think about 545 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: it in this state, the way the world is and 546 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: the way the industry is, like if you if you 547 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: can't perform live, then you're not gonna make it. I 548 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: don't know how anybody survives without live performance. And it 549 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: also just so happens to be my favorite thing. You know. 550 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 3: Now I get to phenomena at it. 551 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: I get to convey these words, I get to take 552 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: my time. I get to languish in the language with 553 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: musicians that I respect and that have multiple vocabulary. All 554 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: that thing is exciting to me, exciting for us. I'm 555 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: so glad excited for it because I love it. 556 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 3: I don't know why you were talking just now, and 557 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 3: I'm thinking about like the level of artists and talent 558 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 3: and how in the past twenty years and Indiangelo just 559 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 3: came up for me, and I wonder for you because 560 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 3: you also named Patty and all these like legends and 561 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 3: those legends that we've lost. I feel like, I don't know, 562 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 3: it's just been a lot of loss in the past 563 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 3: few years. I just wonder how that affects you as 564 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 3: an artist. I know you and the were friends too, right, 565 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 3: we were not? Really? 566 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: No, Why did I assume that just musical? I think 567 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: everybody assumed that we would know each other. 568 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 3: Did you know each other at all? 569 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: I never met him? And it goes back and forth. 570 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: People are calling me, like, you remember when you met D'Angelo, Like, 571 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: have you never met I never met Deane. I think 572 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: you were like best friends and went on tour. 573 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 7: Everybody thinks you got at the Stave Chappelle event together. 574 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 3: Was he not there, because in my mind he was 575 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 3: at the Dave Chapelle, So if he. 576 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: Was there, I didn't meet him. You know how many 577 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: people were at the Dave Chappelle. There was so many people. 578 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: I've been at Essence while he was on stage. I 579 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: got to see the performance, but I didn't meet him. 580 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: It's not that I didn't want to meet him. I 581 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: have a girlfriend who tells me you met him at 582 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: a studio in New York, And I'm like, if I 583 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: met the Wizard of Ice, I would remember the Wizard 584 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: of absolutely absolutely, what is that? 585 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 3: Why that? 586 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:27,959 Speaker 1: Because he's a gift, he's magical, that kind of that 587 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: level of soul and passion and musicianship and sexy, you know, 588 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: his timing along. I would have remembered, like, come on, 589 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: who doesn't remember meeting the Wizard device And that's how 590 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: I feel like I would have remembered that. Show me 591 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: pictures and then put me in the hospital, give me 592 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: a little time away, because clearly something's going on that time. 593 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 3: At that Chappelle event, How do you reflect on that era? 594 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 3: At that time it was such a magical, I don't know, moment, 595 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 3: just seeing all of you guys together and that epic, 596 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 3: legendary you and Erica moment there was like a rap 597 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 3: battle on stage with voices, and I don't know, how 598 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 3: do you reflect. 599 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 1: On that time and that moment? Oh man, it definitely 600 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: wasn't a rap battle. 601 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 3: It felt like a rap battle for me watching it. 602 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: Yes, oh no, because it was. 603 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 3: Respectful, but it felt like I know you said, I 604 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 3: think I've heard you say that that it wasn't. 605 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: Not for me. I don't think it was that way 606 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: for Erica, but she she is kind of like, you know, 607 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: she's a thugger so so. But that wasn't. That wasn't 608 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: where I was coming from. I didn't even know she 609 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: was there. And then I heard her voice and then 610 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,239 Speaker 1: I heard I like, when I watch it now, I 611 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: hear where we clicked and we started this this this 612 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: swim together. And I said, oh man, what is happening 613 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: sonically here? You know, all of a sudden. 614 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 8: We were we were magical, we were Orisha, we were 615 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 8: we were women, we were women of African descent in 616 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 8: this space. 617 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: And I when I even now when I watch it, 618 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: I think it's powerful. Like I left myself and I 619 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: loved it. Anytime I can leave myself, I think it's 620 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: just fantastic. That was a busy day. It was a 621 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: lot of people. It was a lot of questions, It 622 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: was a lot of traffic. There was I tend to 623 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: get still before I perform anywhere for anything, and it 624 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: just there was nowhere to go. I had no peace 625 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: of mind. So I was working hard on just trying 626 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: to be still in this moment because there's Tyler Kwali 627 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: and there's freaking y'all seen Bay And and there's James Poyser, 628 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: and there's Lauren Hill, and there's like, there's Kanye Was, 629 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: there's there's John Legend, like this is amazing. And then 630 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: of course there's this audience that are just waiting, mouths open, 631 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: eyes open, waiting for whatever we're going to give them. 632 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: And it was divine. It was divine. I was a 633 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: little hurt that Dave didn't invite me to Radio City 634 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: Music Hall. I was. I was like, I was there 635 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: too day, but I didn't. I guess I missed that. 636 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 1: I missed that call. I never told him that, so 637 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 1: I didn't tell him. But uh, you know, that's my dude. 638 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: I forgave him a long time. 639 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 3: It's so interesting. You talk about being such fans of everybody, 640 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 3: You have such a confidence even in that moment, I 641 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 3: would never think that you were looking around at everybody 642 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 3: else like, oh my god, there's because you you show 643 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 3: up with such a a confidence. So where does that 644 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 3: come from? And is that all the time? Like do 645 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 3: you carry confidence all the time or do you have 646 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 3: to summon it? 647 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: What do you what do you I would say no, 648 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: I would love to carry confidence all the time. I 649 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: would say no because I know it's a gift, not 650 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: a given. So I'm waiting for the gift to move me. 651 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: And that's my whole energy that I'm just okay, here 652 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 1: I am. You know, I'm in this space with these 653 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: amazing people and I respect them all. It's so cool. Okay, 654 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do with me? What are you 655 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: gonna do with me? And then I tend to only 656 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: really speak to the people that it has to be 657 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 1: a little and then. 658 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, hey, I see you, I. 659 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: See you, you see me. Now we can have a 660 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: conversation and I make my way over to them, and 661 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: sometimes it's reciprocated. Sometimes I feel real stupid, but I'm 662 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 1: honoring myself, you know, and I'm okay with that. I've 663 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: been I've been, you know, dismissed by a couple of 664 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: people that I thought would embrace me, and I was like, 665 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 1: maybe next time, all right, And maybe that is confidence, 666 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 1: the you know, the confidence to be all of myself, 667 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: whether it's scared or nervous, vulnerable, vulnerable, that's it is, 668 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: what it is. 669 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 3: Has anything in that moment surprised you, because to me, 670 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 3: that sounds like you submit almost ye right, you're just 671 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 3: like submitting to me. 672 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 1: I'm a dominant submissive in the majority of my life. 673 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: I'm strong willed. But if I see the need to 674 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: be quiet and listen, I will shut up. If I 675 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: feel the need to uh follow the path, I will 676 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: follow the path. But if I don't, you know, feel 677 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: moved by something, I will make my own way. I 678 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: will follow my own path. I have to be moved, 679 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: and that's with everything. Has it? 680 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 3: Have you ever waited for that to happen and it didn't? 681 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 8: Ye? 682 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 3: Tell me? 683 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: Tell me we broke up. We broke up. You know, 684 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: if if I'm not inspired, if I'm not motivated or moved, 685 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 1: then I can't stay. 686 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 3: I can't How do you deal with breakups? 687 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: By the time, by the time I break up with somebody, 688 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 1: you know, it's pretty clear that that's what's going to happen. 689 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: I start to get more and more quiet, and I 690 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 1: have less offerings, And that's kind of how it works. 691 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 3: So you slowly fade out, fade out. Yeah, I know, 692 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:08,800 Speaker 3: some women stay too long. Some women take heartbreak really 693 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 3: bad where it takes them down and they don't get 694 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 3: back up. 695 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think I don't know. 696 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 3: I think maybe we were not always prepared women in 697 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 3: life for how I feel like your grandmother may be 698 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,280 Speaker 3: prepared you in that moment for some sort. 699 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 1: Of prepared me for a lot of things. Yeah, she said, 700 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: no man is above you and no man is beneath you, 701 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 1: and I, you know, I took that as people. You know, 702 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: so if you treat people that way, then you'll be 703 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: just fine in this life. I know, as someone who's 704 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,720 Speaker 1: built sets and hung lights and mop floors and clean 705 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 1: toilets that if this person is not here to participate 706 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 1: your show, your show is not happening. Your shit ain't running. 707 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: You need everybody, and you need the energy to be good. 708 00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: You need to be graceful towards people you know and 709 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: be grateful for their interaction and for their skill set, 710 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 1: because other than that, it's not going to happen. I 711 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: didn't put this makeup on my friend, did it. Now? 712 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: You got a squad here, a beautiful squad of people, 713 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: great energy and skill set. It matters, you know, from 714 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 1: the person who's making the food for all of us, 715 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: so you know, catering to the lovely person that ran 716 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 1: out and got our beverage. Sarah, Thank you, Sarah, thank you, 717 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: Sarah good looking out because this is nice. 718 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 3: I was thinking too, like about We just did an 719 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 3: episode with a staff Ferd, and he was telling us 720 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 3: that he's been studying and trying to be in flow state, 721 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,439 Speaker 3: you know, like that is his thing, right, and that 722 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 3: that's when the ideas, when the things come, like you 723 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 3: have to make space for that. 724 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: And I don't know. 725 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,359 Speaker 3: When I watch you perform and you're on stage, you 726 00:40:55,480 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 3: always seem like you are locked into another level of sin. 727 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 3: Thank you? 728 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: Is that what it feels like inside? 729 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 3: What is that? 730 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:08,240 Speaker 1: How do you get there? I'm a ball of nerves. 731 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 1: Before I pass the stage, there's a there's an invisible 732 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: line on the floor that takes you to this stage. 733 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 1: I'm a ball of nerves. I'm terrified. I don't know 734 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna like men no for word right thing? No, 735 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 1: I do all these things. 736 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:26,919 Speaker 3: That surprises me so much. 737 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: But okay, I mean, what good is it for me 738 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 1: to pretend with you? You know what I'm saying like, this 739 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: is this is who I am. So I feel all 740 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 1: these things and then I cross that line and then 741 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 1: she shows up and I allow her to take over. 742 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 1: And I don't want you to get you know, anybody 743 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 1: to get confused and think something negative or. 744 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 8: Y'all. 745 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,439 Speaker 1: I don't know about these people in the Devil, I don't. 746 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about it. I don't know about 747 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 1: selling souls. I don't know anything about it. It doesn't 748 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 1: interest me. It's not my thing. I couldn't imagine selling 749 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 1: something that doesn't even belong to me in this way. 750 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: You know, like, what do you mean my soul is 751 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: in partnership with the creator? Period? What are you talking about? 752 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, but maybe people know it. Okay, stay 753 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 1: over there. Well, for me, I align myself with a 754 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: positive force, a good energy, and I allow that to 755 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: come through. I align myself with fearlessness because I want 756 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 1: to say the thing that's going to touch that person 757 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: in the seventh row and the fifth seed. I want 758 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: to touch their lives in some way, shape or form, 759 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 1: and that person that's all the way up there, I 760 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: want them to hear what I'm saying to them. And 761 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: it's more than just me saying it. You need to 762 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 1: hear this for you and in this state at fifty three, 763 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: with this life experience that I've been having, and these 764 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 1: and these successes and love loss and losing people and 765 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: getting rid of people and all the things. I just, 766 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: I just that's my job. My job is to communicate 767 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,280 Speaker 1: to your spirit, to be a sound, be a words, 768 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: words and sounds. 769 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 3: How do you get there? Is there a way? Is 770 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 3: there a trick or you just you have a direct line. 771 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: I have a direct line. I just allow it. I 772 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 1: just I just allow. 773 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 3: It because I think sometimes even with this show a 774 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 3: lot in real life, my hope is that to my 775 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 3: version of the person in the fifth row or the 776 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 3: thirteenth is somebody who's sitting home right now who is disconnected, 777 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 3: and then how do we speak to them in a 778 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 3: way that they learn from your story how to get connected? 779 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 3: Because do you think that everybody has somebody? 780 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 1: Yep? 781 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 3: You do, Yep, born with it. 782 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 1: It's up for you. It's up to you to do 783 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: the math and go search them for it. You know 784 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: that's up to you. 785 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 3: Did you always have it? 786 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: Yes? From as soon as I can remember, because I 787 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: didn't make I didn't say words like Mama died, died. 788 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: I just grunted. 789 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 3: What age is this? 790 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 1: As soon as I can make sounds, I'm an interesting 791 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: story from the very beginning, and my first words were 792 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 1: a sentence and it just is what it is. I 793 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 1: have allowed myself to be friends with the Creator. That's 794 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: my best Like it's my best friend, and then it's 795 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 1: my best friend, you know what I mean. Like when 796 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: I talk about my relationships, my best friend, the bestest 797 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 1: friend I've ever had is Jehovah. God period sees me through, 798 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,879 Speaker 1: tells me quietly, don't go that direction, go this one. 799 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: And sometimes I go to wrong direction. And now I 800 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: gotta learn and it is what it is. Thank you 801 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 1: for the lesson. It didn't kill me, bent me, didn't 802 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,919 Speaker 1: break me. Thank you for the lesson. And that's how 803 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,840 Speaker 1: I exist now. When it comes to other people finding 804 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 1: their connection or their direct line, I think it's a 805 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,839 Speaker 1: lot of ways. Huggetry, walk barefoot in the grass, talk 806 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 1: to an animal, be still, meditate, listen to music, dance, 807 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 1: make love. Sometimes people find it in a facility, you know, 808 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 1: in a building, do that, you know, go to church 809 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 1: or something that's that's your thing. Do it. Maybe some 810 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,760 Speaker 1: people find it in travel, you know, but go looking 811 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 1: for it. That's your math to do. 812 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 8: You know. 813 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 1: But I I sincerely hope I inspire other people to 814 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: find theirs because it's good. It's really, really good. It's 815 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 1: I say this all the time that this is the 816 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,799 Speaker 1: best life I have ever had. I don't know about 817 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,359 Speaker 1: the other ones, but this one pretty good. 818 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 3: M hm. 819 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 1: This one is great. 820 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 3: And like you said, you'd been through some things. Was 821 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 3: there was there any time? Because it's easy on the 822 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,359 Speaker 3: other side to be like, yeah, I've been through some 823 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 3: things and I learned and I was fine. But were 824 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,360 Speaker 3: there times where you were not? But there were times 825 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 3: where you're like, oh, oh, I'm in trouble. 826 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,839 Speaker 1: There were some things I didn't like, you know, definitely 827 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,799 Speaker 1: didn't like. I didn't like getting a divorce. 828 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 3: They say, divorce is like, what is it? Death? 829 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, divorce and taxes. 830 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 3: The divorces is a very traumatic experience. 831 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the first one was traumatic. The second one 832 00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:02,879 Speaker 1: wasn't house so because I didn't care. Well, the first one, 833 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 1: you know, we we we're really great friends. We're like 834 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:11,479 Speaker 1: the best of friends. So it's sat different. He's still 835 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 1: a really good human being. The second one, you're okay, 836 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:18,359 Speaker 1: you put the sword out. 837 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 3: He took the sword out. M h. 838 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I'm fine, I'm fine. 839 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 3: But you made it to the other side of both. Yeah, 840 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,240 Speaker 3: and you still believe in love yep. 841 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 1: Moreheartedly. 842 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:34,240 Speaker 3: Would you do it again? 843 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 1: Yep? Maybe maybe yep maybe? Yes, what I would, I will? 844 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 1: I would keep it to myself. I'll tell you that. Yep. 845 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 1: So it could be mine. Yeah, you know something has 846 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 1: to just be mine for private. 847 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 3: I get that. Yeah, how do you what do you 848 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:58,359 Speaker 3: say about being open to transitioning things? I think about 849 00:47:58,360 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 3: your career. It's not just music. I mean you have 850 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 3: a lovely acting career. 851 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 1: Thank you? So far so good? Why so far so good? 852 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 1: They're kind of just jumped in and did it well? 853 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,879 Speaker 1: The theater started before that. I knew that. 854 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 3: I knew that about you. I did. I don't know 855 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 3: why I'm thinking of films. I'm thinking of specifically why 856 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 3: did I get married? 857 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 1: And that role? Yeah, just because I. 858 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 3: Was reading that It's coming back, right, it is coming back? 859 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,839 Speaker 1: God, it is. 860 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 3: How do you feel about how that role just set 861 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,799 Speaker 3: in people's lives and hearts and there's memes and I 862 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 3: don't know something about that character, something about Sheila is like, 863 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 3: what is that like? 864 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,280 Speaker 1: Did it surprise you? 865 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 3: And do you feel what I'm talking? You know what 866 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,720 Speaker 3: I'm there is a deep connection to this woman. 867 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody mentions her to me pretty much every day 868 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,359 Speaker 1: in my life, every day of your litty much Why 869 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:50,879 Speaker 1: do you I think? 870 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 3: I know why I think, but why do you. 871 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 1: Tell me why you think? 872 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 3: Why I think is because you know there's certain p 873 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 3: people that that same role. They could have played that 874 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 3: same role, and you could have been like, oh, why 875 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,880 Speaker 3: doesn't why would she let that? She could almost seem naive, 876 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 3: or it could be annoying to watch a woman make 877 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 3: a bad decision with a partner or let somebody treat. 878 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 1: Her that way. Right, But something about the way. 879 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 3: You portrayed her in this character you kind of I 880 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,880 Speaker 3: don't know, you rooted for her. You saw her soul 881 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 3: and sympathized with her, and then also we saw her 882 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 3: kind of raise up and find her way. 883 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 1: But I don't know that was beautiful the way. I 884 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:37,719 Speaker 1: don't know. 885 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 3: It's like a fine line of like you could tell 886 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,759 Speaker 3: there's a toughness under there, and she chose to be 887 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,320 Speaker 3: so soft to this, to this man who didn't deserve 888 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 3: her by the way he probably lives his life every day. 889 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 1: Hearing is literally one of the nicest people on the planet, 890 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 1: That poor man, and so funny and so cool. 891 00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,360 Speaker 3: Because he was abusive, he was brutal. 892 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,279 Speaker 1: It was hard. It was horrible, so mean. I would 893 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 1: rollize of him today if I saw him in the street. 894 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 3: Dare he do that? 895 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 1: Invite him? And huggle was the sweetest. But that's that's acting. 896 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 1: That's acting. Of course, the people will still, you know, like, 897 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 1: oh Jill, you let that guy treat you like that? 898 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 3: No no, no, no no, that was acting. 899 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,439 Speaker 1: That was acting, and it is written, you know. And 900 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 1: I just wanted to give her grace. I just wanted 901 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 1: to give her grace. I've got a bad reputation, I 902 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,880 Speaker 1: think at this point where people say that my characters 903 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 1: tend to be weaker, and I think that there are 904 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 1: times when everybody is a little weaker. I think there 905 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,240 Speaker 1: are times, and I know there's a lot of hard folks, 906 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 1: you know that I don't get fuck. You know, I'm straight, 907 00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,319 Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing. I don't. I would never, 908 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,799 Speaker 1: you would never, never, never. But I mean those were 909 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: the ones that they got. We had the feelings hurt 910 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 1: because you don't have any vulnerability in you. And I 911 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:14,719 Speaker 1: think that that lives as well. You know. I think 912 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 1: that sometimes women are soft, maybe a little too soft. 913 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,840 Speaker 1: I think that women are sometimes strong, sometimes too strong, 914 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 1: you know what. I mean, like, we're really out here 915 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 1: just being people and living within the circumstances sometimes that 916 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 1: our life presents. We can break out of those circumstances, 917 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,800 Speaker 1: but sometimes you're in them and you have to figure 918 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 1: out how to move forward. And it's not every path 919 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 1: is not the same. You know, we're really humans out here. 920 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 1: It's like trying to figure it out. And that's the 921 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,759 Speaker 1: gist of it. If you don't get that, I don't 922 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,800 Speaker 1: know what to tell you. So I play characters sometimes 923 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 1: that are a little Have you ever been a Sheila 924 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:55,879 Speaker 1: in a relationship? Never? 925 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:57,399 Speaker 3: Really? Never? 926 00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:58,240 Speaker 1: Ever? Never? 927 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,920 Speaker 3: Nobody has ever made you do so out of character 928 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 3: or out of pocket or. 929 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 1: It wasn't It wasn't that. It was probably the sex 930 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 1: that that made me a little less powerful in the 931 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 1: moment somebody took you down. Yeah, thank goodness for that. 932 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 1: Like I said, I am a dominant submissive, so I 933 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,399 Speaker 1: appreciate the time when I actually can submit. Now I've 934 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 1: learned with grace and age that I cannot submit until 935 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,920 Speaker 1: I can see that I can submit. It can't just 936 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 1: be words, It can't be an action. 937 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 3: In relationship like this is how you guide your relationship. 938 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 1: It has to be fair firm and consistent. 939 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,120 Speaker 3: I need, I need, I need some charge. 940 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,239 Speaker 1: It's got to be fair, firm, and consistent. 941 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:56,960 Speaker 3: That's what you need from your man. 942 00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 1: That's what I need. 943 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 3: Your man is fair, firm. 944 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,880 Speaker 1: Yes, consistent, Yes, you will submit? Yep? 945 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 3: And what is what is submissive? 946 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,680 Speaker 1: Jill? What does that mean to anything? 947 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:08,360 Speaker 3: To whatever? 948 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 1: No? No, no, no, I'm not here. You're still here. 949 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 1: I'm still here and disappear and I'm here to help 950 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:15,919 Speaker 1: a partnership. 951 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,239 Speaker 3: But you trust to Yes. 952 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:20,759 Speaker 1: I want to be able to close my eyes while 953 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 1: you drive, you know. I want to be able to 954 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 1: uh sleep while you you know, maneuver. You know. I 955 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 1: want to be at peace. That's important to me. You know, 956 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,279 Speaker 1: all this whole life has been about me finding and 957 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,719 Speaker 1: maintaining a certain level of peace. So I need to 958 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 1: know that you are who you say you are, even 959 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 1: when nobody's looking. You know. I need that, And that 960 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:51,360 Speaker 1: takes time. It's it's I call it like molasses ass slow. 961 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:53,040 Speaker 1: You know. 962 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:54,400 Speaker 3: Have you ever had that? 963 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 1: Yes? 964 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 3: So you believe in it? 965 00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 1: Yes? I do, Yeah, yes I do. 966 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,279 Speaker 3: What do you think the signs of that? So a 967 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 3: woman's watching now and they're like, yes, I want that too, 968 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 3: How do you identify that? Hmm, like how do you identify? 969 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 1: Like, how do you identify it? Let me think about that. 970 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:26,759 Speaker 1: That's a good question. Simple things when they're is that 971 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 1: it's okay, I'm getting something to eat or I'm making 972 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 1: something to eat, and I made you some too, Whether 973 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,279 Speaker 1: I asked you if you wanted it or not, I'm 974 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 1: just considering you. A cycle of consideration is a very 975 00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,919 Speaker 1: very good thing to pay attention to. That's nice. That's 976 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 1: a friend. Ooh, a friend okay. The deep desire to 977 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:03,799 Speaker 1: share your dreams with me, to share your accomplishments and 978 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:09,840 Speaker 1: your failures with me. That means, oh wow, we are friends. Okay, 979 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:16,840 Speaker 1: that's good. Your willingness to ride with me, which whatever 980 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,839 Speaker 1: I'm doing where we're going to the beach? Cool, we're 981 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 1: going ski Okay you know what I mean. I don't 982 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,239 Speaker 1: maybe still let them in that like the beach or 983 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,840 Speaker 1: like skiing, but I'm going to participate with you because 984 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:33,280 Speaker 1: you're my friend. Friends are a lot harder, like genuine 985 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:38,160 Speaker 1: friendship is a lot harder to betray than something where 986 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 1: we're just attracted to each other. Attraction fades, attraction shifts. 987 00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,400 Speaker 1: You know, this is my thinking about that I think 988 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:54,720 Speaker 1: creating a friendship, a real friendship, is better than anything 989 00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 1: else you could possibly do. Then you can choose if 990 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,920 Speaker 1: you want to move forward with that. Have red flags, 991 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 1: a red flags if you can't afford it, don't spend it. 992 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:12,759 Speaker 1: I'm not going to judge you for being smart, you know. 993 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:19,319 Speaker 1: I A red flag is when you when you're not 994 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:24,319 Speaker 1: a participant in your child's life, Like, how do you? 995 00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:25,879 Speaker 3: How you do that? 996 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,560 Speaker 1: How you do that? You know I've seen I have, 997 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:30,920 Speaker 1: Like I said, I have really good men in my life, 998 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 1: friends that have gone through the fire to spend time 999 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:41,360 Speaker 1: with their children. And I respect that, you know, the 1000 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,279 Speaker 1: mom and that they don't get along and it's it's 1001 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,239 Speaker 1: constant beef. But listen, keep persevering for the sake of 1002 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:52,080 Speaker 1: your child because they need you. And anybody tells you different, 1003 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:56,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's not telling you the truth. Yeah, that's 1004 00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:00,480 Speaker 1: a red flag. Get out of here. Yeah, the s bending, 1005 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:05,400 Speaker 1: the participation with your family, your children, particularly your children, 1006 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:12,479 Speaker 1: excuse me, a red flag. Do a whole relationship show 1007 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:12,839 Speaker 1: in jail. 1008 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 3: This is good. 1009 00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:18,240 Speaker 1: Listen, it's not It's not just the stuff that I've experienced, 1010 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 1: it's also the stuff that I've paid attention to Like, 1011 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,640 Speaker 1: I have really good friends that let me in their life, 1012 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:27,560 Speaker 1: male and female that let me into their lives, so 1013 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,080 Speaker 1: I get a chance to learn some things without actually 1014 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:35,000 Speaker 1: having to go through it myself. You know that's thanks y'all. 1015 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:39,000 Speaker 1: Preheat it? Yeah? Those are those are you know? Those 1016 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,800 Speaker 1: are the red flags I would think. Oh, I think 1017 00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:46,480 Speaker 1: a red flag. This one is annoying when someone only 1018 00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 1: gives you enough loving to pacify, but not fully please. 1019 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,680 Speaker 3: How dare they do you mean physically? Do you mean? 1020 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:04,919 Speaker 5: Oh? 1021 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,640 Speaker 3: Yes, how dare you you mean? Don't take it all? 1022 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:08,640 Speaker 3: They don't take it all the way? 1023 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:13,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just enough of just I'm giving you just enough. 1024 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,000 Speaker 1: You mean to tell me that you flew all the 1025 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,400 Speaker 1: way here? We gonna we're gonna get this one time, 1026 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,520 Speaker 1: one time, and then you're gonna go to sleep and 1027 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:29,840 Speaker 1: then stay sleep until you leave. Are you crazy? Oh no, no, no, no, 1028 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 1: no no no. I think I find that as a 1029 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:36,439 Speaker 1: red flag, like you're saving it for somebody else, You're 1030 00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,840 Speaker 1: sharing that thing with somebody else. I think you are 1031 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,400 Speaker 1: m mcause because who wouldn't want to serve my purpose 1032 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:51,040 Speaker 1: all the time? Serve my purpose? How dare you? 1033 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 3: Maybe the man's tired. 1034 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,480 Speaker 1: Maybe the man, you better say that before you get here. 1035 00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 1: And we've been bouncing around the world and now we're 1036 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:03,840 Speaker 1: finally in this saying spot. Don't don't do that, exhaust yourself. 1037 00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:06,920 Speaker 3: Wait, I just feel like we're bouncing all over the 1038 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 3: place that I get an answer on when this movie 1039 00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:09,480 Speaker 3: was coming out. 1040 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 1: No, no, I don't know, all. 1041 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:12,720 Speaker 3: Right, so that doesn't matter. All right, So then it 1042 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:13,320 Speaker 3: doesn't matter. 1043 00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,320 Speaker 1: No, I don't know, but it's coming. 1044 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,160 Speaker 3: Did you get what I was saying about Shila though, 1045 00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 3: Like I just feel like I don't know. It's like 1046 00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,760 Speaker 3: you gave her a license to be vulnerable, and for 1047 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,840 Speaker 3: some reason we didn't get annoyed by that normally, Like. 1048 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 1: You're so glad. I'm so glad that people didn't. And 1049 00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 1: I think it was because it's you. But it's not. 1050 00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,600 Speaker 3: Then I know it's not. But you carry a certain 1051 00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:42,560 Speaker 3: strengthness automatically, thank you. So even if you play super vulnerable, 1052 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,920 Speaker 3: I don't know, there's like an air of we know 1053 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,439 Speaker 3: it's in there, like we know there's some strength in there. 1054 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 1: Come on, come on, just for Shila, and that's all right, 1055 00:59:56,320 --> 01:00:00,439 Speaker 1: and that's all right. I didn't like how how much 1056 01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,680 Speaker 1: people will made fun of her. I didn't. I didn't 1057 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:12,680 Speaker 1: like that. I remember the scene on the plane, and man, 1058 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:26,240 Speaker 1: the scene on the plane. Tyler had extras make fun 1059 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:30,520 Speaker 1: of me when I got on the plane. They were 1060 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 1: just going back and forth making jokes about Sheila's weight. 1061 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,440 Speaker 1: And obviously, you know, you know, I had on a 1062 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:41,280 Speaker 1: whole fat suit and it was it was cumbersome, you know. 1063 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,760 Speaker 1: So the walk was genuine and the sitting down was 1064 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,120 Speaker 1: genuine and all the things, and then I practiced in 1065 01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 1: it quite a bit so that it felt genuine to 1066 01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 1: the character. But the folks on the flight really went 1067 01:00:56,320 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 1: in or on fat jokes, and it like it sucked. No, 1068 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:06,960 Speaker 1: I did not that. 1069 01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:08,240 Speaker 3: I did not. 1070 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:12,439 Speaker 1: I felt like it was Sorry, Tyler, I hated that shit, 1071 01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,960 Speaker 1: but I sincerely hated it. They were just going at 1072 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,960 Speaker 1: after you said. I think I told him once or twice, 1073 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:25,400 Speaker 1: you know that. I remember that, you know. And that's 1074 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:31,000 Speaker 1: when I decided too that I as a woman who 1075 01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,640 Speaker 1: comes from a family of Amazons, my mother six one. 1076 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,080 Speaker 1: You know, I'm the runt of my family. Okay, everybody 1077 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:43,960 Speaker 1: is taught. I decided that I am not fat, but 1078 01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:50,400 Speaker 1: I have some and it made me feel better. And 1079 01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,320 Speaker 1: that's how I That's how I moved through my life. 1080 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,000 Speaker 1: Like you're not gonna define me as a thing. I'm 1081 01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:59,680 Speaker 1: multi colored, I'm multi dimensional. I'm you know, I'm soft, 1082 01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:04,520 Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm soft and I'm strong. You know, 1083 01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,400 Speaker 1: I'm a whole human being out here, you know, who 1084 01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:12,200 Speaker 1: comes from some pretty dark places like in North Philadelphia 1085 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,920 Speaker 1: and some pretty beautiful places like North Philadelphia. You know, 1086 01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a stew you know, to make 1087 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,520 Speaker 1: the to make a person. And I feel the same 1088 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:29,440 Speaker 1: way about acting like it's a stew. There's other parts 1089 01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:35,480 Speaker 1: of Shila that luckily Sheriff Troy saw, you know, and 1090 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:40,040 Speaker 1: then they began their life together. And even Mike, you 1091 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,080 Speaker 1: know the in the second one, he saw her too 1092 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 1: and needed her assistance because they always need. 1093 01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 3: You, and she was sheriff of Mike in the in 1094 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:53,360 Speaker 3: the new one, Oh, I couldn't help that. You just 1095 01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,200 Speaker 3: took me to a place I needed to know right away, 1096 01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:01,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, sheriff, And no, Mike could have been saved. 1097 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 3: He could come back, like who knows. 1098 01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,720 Speaker 1: Right last we saw him, he had cancer. 1099 01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:07,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, remember that. 1100 01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,480 Speaker 1: I mean cancer takes a lot out in person. Maybe 1101 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:12,480 Speaker 1: some of the evil too. 1102 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:18,240 Speaker 3: Do you believe do you believe in people that deep, 1103 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 3: like a person like Mike, like in real life? Hmmm? 1104 01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:28,000 Speaker 3: Could you can people be redeemed to that level? 1105 01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:39,080 Speaker 5: Not with me, not with me, No, No, in life overall? 1106 01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:44,880 Speaker 1: Perhaps now with me? Listen, I can. I can forgive 1107 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,680 Speaker 1: you from afar, but I'm more likely to forget you 1108 01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,920 Speaker 1: than forgive you. No, you did that shit. You really 1109 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,960 Speaker 1: really tried to harm me? And that's terrible. Who wants 1110 01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:56,680 Speaker 1: to hurt me? 1111 01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:57,760 Speaker 2: Words? 1112 01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:02,000 Speaker 1: Oh, you deserve every bit that's coming your way, and 1113 01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:06,880 Speaker 1: it is, it is. It's not a threat. It's a fact. 1114 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,520 Speaker 1: I come here to do no harm. I know that 1115 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:16,200 Speaker 1: for sure. So if you attempt to harm me, all oh, 1116 01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,959 Speaker 1: and I've seen it time after time after time after 1117 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,960 Speaker 1: time after time. And that's all I really can say 1118 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,600 Speaker 1: at this point, Like, if someone is attempting to harm me, 1119 01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm just I just feel pity. 1120 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,720 Speaker 3: So where does forgiveness sit in at now? 1121 01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:38,960 Speaker 1: You know? 1122 01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,680 Speaker 3: Are you a forgiving person? Can you be a forgiving person? 1123 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:47,680 Speaker 1: I probably could. It's not what I'm working on right now. 1124 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,520 Speaker 1: It's not the season you're in right now, it's not 1125 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:51,800 Speaker 1: it's not the season I'm in. 1126 01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:56,000 Speaker 3: But Let's say somebody who's unconditioned, like your child or 1127 01:04:56,040 --> 01:05:01,200 Speaker 3: your mother or a sibling, like you have to have forgiveness, right, 1128 01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,240 Speaker 3: Like forgiveness has to be part of the program. 1129 01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:14,240 Speaker 1: No, for someone like a child like my child. 1130 01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:12,520 Speaker 3: You used to have to think about it. 1131 01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:14,920 Speaker 1: I do, Yeah, I do. I don't know where that 1132 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,320 Speaker 1: is where you've got to forgive people. I don't know. Like, 1133 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,280 Speaker 1: if that's how you feel, then that's what you should do. 1134 01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,080 Speaker 1: But if that's not how you feel, like, hold on 1135 01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,520 Speaker 1: a minute, you probably feel some other feelings. Let them happen, 1136 01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,480 Speaker 1: you know, give us the space so you get to 1137 01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:31,400 Speaker 1: forgiveness and it's genuine. I don't want to just say 1138 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,919 Speaker 1: it and then it not be true. I'd rather just wait. 1139 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,880 Speaker 3: You think people sometimes maybe rush to forgiveness. 1140 01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:38,240 Speaker 1: Sure. 1141 01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, we have a little segment on our Show's okay. 1142 01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,919 Speaker 3: It's a voice note. Usually a fan of yours, fan 1143 01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,200 Speaker 3: of the pod knew you were coming, so it's a 1144 01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,320 Speaker 3: question or a comment. It's presented by a boost mobile. 1145 01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,000 Speaker 3: It is our voice note. This is for Jill Scott. 1146 01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:57,600 Speaker 9: Hey, Jilly from Philly. You are probably one of the 1147 01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:01,040 Speaker 9: most confident women I know with Then there'suality and I 1148 01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:04,720 Speaker 9: really appreciate you for that. So I have a new 1149 01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,640 Speaker 9: man and I can feel like a little shy in 1150 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,640 Speaker 9: the bedroom sometimes. So do you have any advice, like 1151 01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,280 Speaker 9: any one liners or anything I could do to just 1152 01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:14,720 Speaker 9: like spice things up a little bit. 1153 01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:18,280 Speaker 3: She wants to go to a new level of her sexuality. 1154 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,000 Speaker 1: I don't. Okay, this is a tough one because I 1155 01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,760 Speaker 1: don't know her and I don't know what she wants. 1156 01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:29,000 Speaker 1: Does she wants to be aggressive? Because if she wants 1157 01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:42,360 Speaker 1: to be aggressive, then it's a mindset. It's it's not 1158 01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:48,840 Speaker 1: asking for it, it's taking and being confident in that. 1159 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:56,000 Speaker 1: Confidence is the problem though. If she is internally aggressive, 1160 01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,720 Speaker 1: she has to figure out if she dominates submissive or 1161 01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:02,800 Speaker 1: submissive dominant? Or is she a submissive submissive or is 1162 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,400 Speaker 1: she a dominant dominant? Like I don't know herself, she 1163 01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,920 Speaker 1: has to know herself in order to get what she 1164 01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,640 Speaker 1: wants out of this thing. Is she doing this just 1165 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,720 Speaker 1: because she thinks he'll like it, you know? Or is 1166 01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:18,760 Speaker 1: she doing this because she'll like it? That is like 1167 01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:23,880 Speaker 1: the most important part of it all. Like some people 1168 01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,480 Speaker 1: know this about me. I know DJ Premiere knows this 1169 01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:30,440 Speaker 1: about me because we've had extensive conversations about it. But 1170 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,560 Speaker 1: I am a huge fan of a Nessa del Rio, 1171 01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:39,360 Speaker 1: the porn star. I love how confident she was in 1172 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,840 Speaker 1: her film. Now. I didn't expect to be looking at 1173 01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:46,439 Speaker 1: Vanessa del Rio, but I found my uncle Stash right 1174 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:51,120 Speaker 1: like most back in the day, or Ladies Night called 1175 01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:51,760 Speaker 1: Ladies Night, and. 1176 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,480 Speaker 3: She came once or twice on to the show. 1177 01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:56,600 Speaker 1: I've been trying to have lunch or dinner with her 1178 01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:57,960 Speaker 1: for like ten fifteen years. 1179 01:07:57,960 --> 01:07:58,880 Speaker 3: Does she know you love her? 1180 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,400 Speaker 1: I send her messages, but I don't get anything back. 1181 01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,480 Speaker 3: I remember she was It was years ago, but I 1182 01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,800 Speaker 3: remember met her and she was lovely and super warm 1183 01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:07,640 Speaker 3: and like, I don't know. 1184 01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,080 Speaker 1: I have her book, I have the sign lithograph. Like 1185 01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:13,880 Speaker 1: I love her. It's real because she's the first person 1186 01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:18,160 Speaker 1: that I saw and in comparison to anything else that 1187 01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:22,800 Speaker 1: I've ever seen, that absolutely absolutely wanted what she was 1188 01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:26,400 Speaker 1: given and absolutely took what she wanted. And I said, 1189 01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,320 Speaker 1: that's it right there, that's the level of confidence that 1190 01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:33,280 Speaker 1: I want to have in my sexuality. But she knew 1191 01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,840 Speaker 1: what she wanted. If you read her book, she tells 1192 01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,240 Speaker 1: you all about what she wants and she got what 1193 01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:42,320 Speaker 1: she wanted if if you. 1194 01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,519 Speaker 3: Find that in the tape though, so you find the 1195 01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,719 Speaker 3: set I watched and you picked her out the bunch 1196 01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:49,320 Speaker 3: and you were like, this, she's different. 1197 01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,519 Speaker 1: I was, yeah, because she she liked it, liked it, 1198 01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:53,679 Speaker 1: she didn't kind of like it. 1199 01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:54,719 Speaker 3: She wasn't. 1200 01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:57,400 Speaker 1: It wasn't about getting a paycheck. I could tell in 1201 01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:58,000 Speaker 1: her eyes. 1202 01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:00,000 Speaker 3: The only one dies I can tell her. 1203 01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:07,320 Speaker 1: I mean, what else did it fall? Research? Right? It's 1204 01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,840 Speaker 1: research just to find the bits and pieces that you 1205 01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:15,639 Speaker 1: like for yourself and then emulate them later in your 1206 01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 1: you know, in your sex life. I think that's what 1207 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:21,800 Speaker 1: it's all about. I think a lot of the like 1208 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:27,920 Speaker 1: the porn now is kind of performative and soul in it. Yeah, 1209 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,840 Speaker 1: but that's a del Rio has soul in everything that 1210 01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:34,200 Speaker 1: she did, and that's what I loved about her. I 1211 01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,679 Speaker 1: was like, that's that's it right there. You know, she's 1212 01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:41,800 Speaker 1: not being taken advantage of. She is enjoying herself. That's 1213 01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:43,519 Speaker 1: what it looked like to me. Now, she might tell 1214 01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:46,240 Speaker 1: me differently. I don't know, but I also read her 1215 01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:50,519 Speaker 1: book and it still didn't read to me that that 1216 01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,880 Speaker 1: she was being taken advantage of. She says she knew 1217 01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:56,320 Speaker 1: what she wanted very early in her life. And I'm like, 1218 01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:58,800 Speaker 1: how are you going to front on that? 1219 01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:03,880 Speaker 3: You know you are, you are moved, and your operating 1220 01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:11,200 Speaker 3: system connects to yes, knowing yourself, being present, yes, and 1221 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,680 Speaker 3: ownership of whatever your shit is and whatever. 1222 01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:17,080 Speaker 1: Your shit is. So that's really the answer to the question. 1223 01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:19,360 Speaker 1: If she wants to be more confident, she has to 1224 01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:22,599 Speaker 1: figure out how she wants to be more confident as 1225 01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:26,320 Speaker 1: a submissive, because you know, I could give tips here 1226 01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:27,960 Speaker 1: as a submissive. 1227 01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:30,479 Speaker 3: Do you want to give one just for ships and giggles? 1228 01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:35,640 Speaker 1: Let's just say, first of all, I hope that this 1229 01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,679 Speaker 1: is a really really great boyfriend and that he deserves 1230 01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,920 Speaker 1: and that he deserves it. Not everybody deserves your A game. 1231 01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:45,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's b or C, you know, And and if 1232 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,479 Speaker 1: it's b or C, you might not want to involve 1233 01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,080 Speaker 1: yourself at all. You know, save it for the good stuff, 1234 01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,040 Speaker 1: save it for the great you know, that's a that's 1235 01:10:53,080 --> 01:11:01,760 Speaker 1: a life lesson. If if if he's worth her submissiveness, 1236 01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:10,679 Speaker 1: then I would say, hands behind back, eyes closed, mouth open, 1237 01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:16,519 Speaker 1: and be still, just wait and see what happens. If 1238 01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:26,120 Speaker 1: she wants to be aggressive, I would say attack, mm hm, 1239 01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:38,040 Speaker 1: attack like a wild animal attack fight, no boundaries, no boundaries, bite, grab, scratch, 1240 01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:43,240 Speaker 1: whatever you need. Listen. If that's what you like, you 1241 01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:46,280 Speaker 1: should we should be doing what we like, what we enjoy, 1242 01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,880 Speaker 1: rather than you know, when somebody else place you to be. 1243 01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,360 Speaker 1: You know, I think that, I really do. I think 1244 01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:56,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people will be more happy in their 1245 01:11:56,560 --> 01:12:00,880 Speaker 1: you know, personal relationship if they would figure out what 1246 01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,439 Speaker 1: they actually like instead of trying to be what the 1247 01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:05,120 Speaker 1: other person likes. 1248 01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:05,599 Speaker 9: Word. 1249 01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:09,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great bar. Ohr Jill, That's what I think. 1250 01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:10,360 Speaker 1: That's a great war. 1251 01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,599 Speaker 3: I think the girls, the young girls over there, they're 1252 01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:17,920 Speaker 3: giving you all this, that's what I think with the 1253 01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,439 Speaker 3: with the bars from Jill today, come on now. But 1254 01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:23,880 Speaker 3: they have to deserve it, Yes, to deserve you well, 1255 01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,880 Speaker 3: you always is confident about who you are sexually and 1256 01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:30,080 Speaker 3: all that we did that come as this grown version 1257 01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:32,759 Speaker 3: of I mean, I feel like it's in the music. 1258 01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:36,120 Speaker 1: But like I always knew what I liked, I always 1259 01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:41,000 Speaker 1: knew what I wanted. I wanted to be like Vanessadia. 1260 01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:45,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to feel like that lady looked in her eyes. 1261 01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:49,160 Speaker 1: It wasn't a masquerade, it wasn't a I'm a Damsel. 1262 01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:51,479 Speaker 1: You know, she got with it seemed like she was 1263 01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,720 Speaker 1: gating what she wanted, and I'm not believe in that, Like, 1264 01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,719 Speaker 1: why should I get what I want? I'm here too, 1265 01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,960 Speaker 1: you know, yes, and I do feel that way. But 1266 01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:07,360 Speaker 1: I also read books, and I also you can watch porn, 1267 01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:10,360 Speaker 1: but you also read books. I read books, yeah, and 1268 01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:13,680 Speaker 1: I do like the riskue books, and I also like 1269 01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:17,679 Speaker 1: books like Women Who Run with the Wolves. I love 1270 01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:18,760 Speaker 1: that book very much. 1271 01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:20,080 Speaker 3: I love book. 1272 01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:24,240 Speaker 1: It's so good. It's about all the folklore that involves women, 1273 01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:30,280 Speaker 1: and how I hate to it's it's if I if 1274 01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,479 Speaker 1: I say it this way, you might not read it, 1275 01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,080 Speaker 1: and I don't want you to do that. I want 1276 01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:37,200 Speaker 1: you to tell me good story telling. You try my best, 1277 01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:44,160 Speaker 1: But it's how the Grim brothers who wrote like Hansel 1278 01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,799 Speaker 1: and gretel Or, I think they wrote that. But along 1279 01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:51,720 Speaker 1: those lines, those kinds of stories where the woman is 1280 01:13:52,560 --> 01:14:00,639 Speaker 1: subjugated or she is a witch, when in actuality she's intuition. 1281 01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:05,559 Speaker 1: Her mother taught her about herbs, her aunt taught her 1282 01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:09,000 Speaker 1: about giving birth and how to do that. She's someone 1283 01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:14,200 Speaker 1: of substance and power. But the patriarchy is afraid of 1284 01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:16,960 Speaker 1: women such as that so they painted her different, They 1285 01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,880 Speaker 1: made her a monster, they made her evil, when she's 1286 01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:23,800 Speaker 1: just knowledgeable. And that is like open my mind so 1287 01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:27,439 Speaker 1: much about who I am, who my mother is, who 1288 01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,640 Speaker 1: my grandmother is. You know, my grandmother could tell you 1289 01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:33,799 Speaker 1: who was calling before the phone rang, and that's just facts. 1290 01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,639 Speaker 1: My aunt surely could make you a meal that would 1291 01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:42,960 Speaker 1: make you feel so much better about everything. My mother's 1292 01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,400 Speaker 1: never been wrong about the sex of a child. You know, 1293 01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,639 Speaker 1: she makes the pregnant woman stand up and walk and she's, oh, 1294 01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:53,200 Speaker 1: that's a boy. She's never been wrong in the course 1295 01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:59,840 Speaker 1: of my life. What is that then? That's that's woman. 1296 01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:02,240 Speaker 1: It's the power to. 1297 01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:07,920 Speaker 3: DNA it is Do you think every woman is capable 1298 01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,880 Speaker 3: of that? Where do you think they miss? 1299 01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:17,280 Speaker 1: I think probably society, you know, will tell you you're 1300 01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:21,200 Speaker 1: something is wrong. Maybe your religion will tell you that 1301 01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:24,759 Speaker 1: something is wrong with you for having abilities and gifts, 1302 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:32,320 Speaker 1: maybe even your own family. You know, when I think 1303 01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:36,120 Speaker 1: of women, I always see them on like a whale 1304 01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:43,280 Speaker 1: or a horse, a stallion or a unicorn. Just warriors. 1305 01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:52,400 Speaker 1: Warriors we bleed every month and don't die. What When 1306 01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:58,040 Speaker 1: the time comes, our whole universe moves to open, to 1307 01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:01,240 Speaker 1: allow someone to come through like, oh, you cannot front 1308 01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:06,160 Speaker 1: on that. There's power in this thing. I want to 1309 01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,840 Speaker 1: I would love for more people to see, you know, 1310 01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:13,120 Speaker 1: to tap into it. All of this stuff is a culturement. 1311 01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:15,920 Speaker 3: You're making me feel very like, I don't know, like 1312 01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:19,519 Speaker 3: I need to do more. I don't know, more womanly 1313 01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:21,680 Speaker 3: woman warrior. 1314 01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:25,840 Speaker 1: Shit, go outside and growl, growl at somebody. 1315 01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:33,200 Speaker 3: Don't be alarmed today later after the show, roar Yeah 1316 01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:37,000 Speaker 3: you deserve to roar, right, Yeah, I'm gonna do it today. 1317 01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:37,439 Speaker 1: Why not? 1318 01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:39,800 Speaker 3: It would be weird in Manhattan in the middle of 1319 01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:42,400 Speaker 3: So what. M you got a point? 1320 01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:49,160 Speaker 1: So what. I'm gonna judge you now after you've accomplished 1321 01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:51,960 Speaker 1: all of this in your lifetime. So what? 1322 01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,120 Speaker 3: And Martinez out there roaring in the middle of the 1323 01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:55,800 Speaker 3: street like a crazy lady. 1324 01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:59,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you don't when to do it? Yeah, you know, 1325 01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:00,519 Speaker 1: you do it. 1326 01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:02,160 Speaker 3: It probably sounds beautiful though. 1327 01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:10,679 Speaker 1: I sound I sound like a I growl at my son. 1328 01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,320 Speaker 1: You know what, he does really well when he does. 1329 01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:16,960 Speaker 1: He gave a speech at the school and he said, 1330 01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:26,639 Speaker 1: how do I do? I was like, he was like, hey, 1331 01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:29,520 Speaker 1: he felt that because I did, and so did the audience, 1332 01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:35,519 Speaker 1: Like we're We're not in tiny boxes. We are a 1333 01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:41,200 Speaker 1: whole spectrum of things. I believe it, and I hope 1334 01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:45,839 Speaker 1: to inspire people to find their own personal revolution because 1335 01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:53,439 Speaker 1: the trip is worth the juice is worth a squeeze. 1336 01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:56,439 Speaker 1: Real shit, real shit shit. 1337 01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,120 Speaker 3: I feel like you always had yours. When did your 1338 01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:03,760 Speaker 3: revolution come though? Or did you Were you born with this? 1339 01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,439 Speaker 3: Because I feel like from I don't know talking to 1340 01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:09,320 Speaker 3: you today, did you never not have that? You say 1341 01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:10,240 Speaker 3: you always had it? 1342 01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:14,479 Speaker 1: I can't imagine. I don't know if it's so long ago. 1343 01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:18,160 Speaker 1: Maybe I chose to forget. I don't know. I don't know, 1344 01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:23,280 Speaker 1: Like I think I've always is there, made decisions and 1345 01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:27,000 Speaker 1: did stuff and then lived with the consequences and changed it. 1346 01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:28,240 Speaker 1: Is there a moment? 1347 01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:30,880 Speaker 3: Is there a moment in your mind if you're telling 1348 01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:36,439 Speaker 3: the Jill Scott story of how she's this growling warrior woman? 1349 01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:38,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, what is the vision of that? 1350 01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:40,599 Speaker 3: Is there a moment in your life and your career 1351 01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:45,360 Speaker 3: that's that reflects that where you were being that or 1352 01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:50,160 Speaker 3: doing that at the highest level. I just wonder how 1353 01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:51,960 Speaker 3: you see her, like how you say how you see 1354 01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:55,240 Speaker 3: women on whales and unicorns? Yes, I guess I'm asking 1355 01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:56,879 Speaker 3: you about that about yourself? 1356 01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:01,320 Speaker 1: How do you see that moment? There has been a 1357 01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:09,880 Speaker 1: moment in my career where I brought a dildo to work. 1358 01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:13,960 Speaker 1: I was working in with with musicians and producers rather 1359 01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:17,080 Speaker 1: a gang of them, and I didn't feel like I 1360 01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:20,680 Speaker 1: was being heard, and I brought a dildo and I 1361 01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:25,639 Speaker 1: banged it on a table. Sorry sound man, Sorry friend, 1362 01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:28,320 Speaker 1: I banged it on the table. I'm like, can you 1363 01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:33,799 Speaker 1: hear me now? Can you hear me now? Because clearly 1364 01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:37,080 Speaker 1: there's something missing that you're not hearing what I'm saying 1365 01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:37,360 Speaker 1: to you. 1366 01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,800 Speaker 3: So if I had a penis right, you would take that. 1367 01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,000 Speaker 1: Maybe you can. Maybe you can hear what I'm Maybe 1368 01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,439 Speaker 1: that's the problem. Maybe that's what it is. I don't know. 1369 01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:48,000 Speaker 1: Everybody laughed, we had a good kikey, and then they 1370 01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:53,320 Speaker 1: started listening a little bit better. I think that might 1371 01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,519 Speaker 1: have been a moment, you know where I felt like 1372 01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:01,240 Speaker 1: that is for sure a moment for somebody. 1373 01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:07,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it worked, it worked, That's amazing. 1374 01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:11,920 Speaker 1: Get in my bowl. This is my edge, Martinez, irol bowl. 1375 01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,640 Speaker 3: Let's see what question in the universe gives you. We 1376 01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:15,880 Speaker 3: might take a couple. 1377 01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:22,719 Speaker 1: Okay, our bowl of what your guilty pleasure. 1378 01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:31,559 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I feel like we're ready now. 1379 01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:35,519 Speaker 1: I don't want to tell you, but I will. What's 1380 01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:43,200 Speaker 1: my guilty pleasure? I happened to love. I'm not proud. 1381 01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:49,920 Speaker 1: I happen to love the drama between Blue Face and 1382 01:20:50,000 --> 01:21:02,840 Speaker 1: Christian Rock. I love it. I know, I know, I know. 1383 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:06,520 Speaker 1: Now what is it about this said situation? 1384 01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:09,080 Speaker 3: I know that does it for you? What does it 1385 01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:09,760 Speaker 3: bring up for you? 1386 01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:15,639 Speaker 1: I think that that that that that's a pimp, and 1387 01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:20,400 Speaker 1: I think I think that's a that's a pimp. And 1388 01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:24,240 Speaker 1: I think that she got caught up with her bim. 1389 01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,479 Speaker 3: She is an interesting side too. Listen because just when 1390 01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,760 Speaker 3: you think she's a little please don't take this the 1391 01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,200 Speaker 3: wrong way, but she got a little Sheila in her 1392 01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:39,760 Speaker 3: m she'll say some ship that'd be so real and 1393 01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:44,760 Speaker 3: fight and she fights, yep, And so that's probably what. 1394 01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,840 Speaker 1: Keeps you in. It's a guilty pleasure. I just I 1395 01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:52,240 Speaker 1: just find it fascinating. But I am such I am 1396 01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:55,559 Speaker 1: that way, like I like the study of people. I 1397 01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:58,439 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know anybody like this, and I 1398 01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:01,840 Speaker 1: don't know anybody let her either, And I'm cool with that. 1399 01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,280 Speaker 1: But I find it fascinating that this could even be. 1400 01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:08,840 Speaker 1: And then there's so much to it, and there's so 1401 01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:12,800 Speaker 1: much tattoo. It's a lot of tooth. It's a lot, 1402 01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:14,799 Speaker 1: it's it's a lot. 1403 01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:21,040 Speaker 3: There's so much. Okay, it's not what I expected from your's. 1404 01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,240 Speaker 1: Not what I expect either. Would you say guilty pleasure? 1405 01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:25,920 Speaker 3: I feel I feel like I would like you to 1406 01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:28,920 Speaker 3: hit a couple more bold questions if you don't mind, for. 1407 01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:31,320 Speaker 1: Real, just because you're so good at it, I feel like. 1408 01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:33,680 Speaker 3: Maybe we'll do just a round, like a quick two 1409 01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:35,200 Speaker 3: or three round, if you don't mind. 1410 01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:38,479 Speaker 1: Because here I am out here being honest, this. 1411 01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:43,439 Speaker 3: Is in real life. But they're not crazy questions. 1412 01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:54,559 Speaker 1: What is one regret you have? I regret some things 1413 01:22:54,560 --> 01:23:05,599 Speaker 1: are personal, but this one I regret not taking the 1414 01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:11,960 Speaker 1: the Chicago gig. I got offered Chicago the movie. I 1415 01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:16,599 Speaker 1: got offered Chicago the movie. And I was on too. 1416 01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,080 Speaker 1: And she did so great? She did, she got an oscar, 1417 01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:22,360 Speaker 1: didn't she fucking did? 1418 01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:24,240 Speaker 3: Here you are? 1419 01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:28,639 Speaker 1: And I said, I said no because I thought it 1420 01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:32,280 Speaker 1: was the play and I didn't have the time. I 1421 01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:35,479 Speaker 1: was doing so many things. I was on tour. I 1422 01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:38,599 Speaker 1: was in this country, in this place and this city, 1423 01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,120 Speaker 1: and I like the first two years of my career, 1424 01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:44,559 Speaker 1: and I had pneumonia like three times, and I was like, 1425 01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:48,320 Speaker 1: I'm not doing a play and I didn't read and 1426 01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:52,720 Speaker 1: I didn't know, so I passed, and I would have 1427 01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,760 Speaker 1: I regret that. I do regret that, even though you 1428 01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:58,760 Speaker 1: know I loved dating a hardcore. 1429 01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:00,240 Speaker 3: And she kill it. 1430 01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:03,040 Speaker 1: Yeah she did it. She did the thing, you know, 1431 01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:06,960 Speaker 1: But I would have liked to do the thing. That's 1432 01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:07,840 Speaker 1: a regret. 1433 01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:10,479 Speaker 3: There's so many there's so many questions in here. I 1434 01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:11,320 Speaker 3: want to ask for you. 1435 01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:13,320 Speaker 1: Now you're looking. I know. 1436 01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:16,040 Speaker 3: I'm sorry you're cheating. I just was looking for my 1437 01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:19,919 Speaker 3: favorite one, Auntie. Is it cheating my questions? 1438 01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:21,320 Speaker 1: I could cheat. It's my bowl. 1439 01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:23,840 Speaker 3: Well it is it my bulging it is? 1440 01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:26,200 Speaker 1: And your show. 1441 01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:30,960 Speaker 3: I love this. I would ask you this even if 1442 01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:32,960 Speaker 3: it wasn't in the ball. This is my two questions 1443 01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,200 Speaker 3: for you. But I picked I picked these out of 1444 01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:39,479 Speaker 3: the bowl for you. Okay, when you leave a room, Jill, 1445 01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:41,439 Speaker 3: what do you hope you leave behind? 1446 01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:48,880 Speaker 1: What do I hope I leave behind? A vibe? Yeah, 1447 01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:56,400 Speaker 1: no vibe, but a strong feminine force would be nice. 1448 01:24:59,880 --> 01:25:04,479 Speaker 1: I I would also have to care like I'm not 1449 01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:10,040 Speaker 1: in a position to care as much. But that's what 1450 01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:14,800 Speaker 1: I would hope if I did care, you know, respectfully, honestly, 1451 01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:20,040 Speaker 1: fifty three, I got stuff going on, you know, or 1452 01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:23,960 Speaker 1: love me or hate me. You know, I've earned this, 1453 01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:28,200 Speaker 1: this position in life. I've earned this to feel this way, 1454 01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:31,320 Speaker 1: you know, to not really give it damn but so much, 1455 01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:34,920 Speaker 1: you know. So, But if I had to care, I 1456 01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:38,760 Speaker 1: would hope that I leave a strong feminine energy in 1457 01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:42,080 Speaker 1: the room that would make other women proud to be 1458 01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:48,000 Speaker 1: women and other men admire women. That'd be nice. 1459 01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:51,519 Speaker 3: As we've had wrapping up this conversation soon, but as 1460 01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:53,800 Speaker 3: I'm thinking about you getting ready to put new music 1461 01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,080 Speaker 3: out in the last ten years and having this conversation 1462 01:25:56,200 --> 01:26:00,800 Speaker 3: with you today, Yeah, like what is to happen? Like 1463 01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:03,360 Speaker 3: what are we going to experience now? Because I feel 1464 01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:08,400 Speaker 3: like you're in like an almost explosive kind of confidence. 1465 01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:10,519 Speaker 3: I mean, you've always been very confident, but I don't know, 1466 01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:13,920 Speaker 3: I just feel like you're in a very it is 1467 01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:18,760 Speaker 3: what it is, amazing place. Yeah, So what I don't know, 1468 01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:23,120 Speaker 3: what do we experience as fans as receivers of the art, Like, 1469 01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:25,000 Speaker 3: what is what is going to come from the season? 1470 01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:30,679 Speaker 1: You shall see you shall see. I am very excited 1471 01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:34,559 Speaker 1: about whatever is going on in here. I don't you know, 1472 01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:38,160 Speaker 1: I can't tame it, and I don't want to. I 1473 01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:43,320 Speaker 1: just want to have the ability to implement it in 1474 01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:47,800 Speaker 1: full vision. That's what I want. You know. I'm out 1475 01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:51,840 Speaker 1: here and I haven't been, and there's all kinds of 1476 01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:53,920 Speaker 1: new toys. There's all kinds of stuff to play with. 1477 01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:56,920 Speaker 1: I won't play with it, and then some old things 1478 01:26:56,920 --> 01:27:00,280 Speaker 1: to play with as well, you know, like theater. I 1479 01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:01,280 Speaker 1: want to enjoy myself. 1480 01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:03,760 Speaker 3: Oh I love that for you me too. Are you 1481 01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:09,240 Speaker 3: in love right now, miss Jill? Okay, next question? Then 1482 01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:17,000 Speaker 3: you're giving me love vibes. That's all I'm saying. I 1483 01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:18,559 Speaker 3: don't know if you are or not. I'm just saying 1484 01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:19,880 Speaker 3: you're getting me in love vibes. 1485 01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:22,080 Speaker 1: I already told you anything that's happening. I'm gonna keep 1486 01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:26,720 Speaker 1: it to myself, okay, and enjoy my life, my private existence. 1487 01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:30,080 Speaker 3: And if you decide to get married, that would be 1488 01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:33,160 Speaker 3: private too, you would, really you do like a whole 1489 01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:36,360 Speaker 3: private mmmm that way right? 1490 01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:42,439 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's worth taking the effort 1491 01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:46,240 Speaker 1: to make it private. Yeah, you know, I know a 1492 01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:48,080 Speaker 1: lot of things are going on and speaking as a 1493 01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:51,280 Speaker 1: two time divorcea, I still think that marriage is sacred, 1494 01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:56,920 Speaker 1: you know, so I'm learning now that it must be 1495 01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:01,080 Speaker 1: kept in a protective place if you're gonna do it 1496 01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:04,879 Speaker 1: at all. It's for me anyway. Other people, that's your business, 1497 01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:07,880 Speaker 1: do as you will, But for me, I think it 1498 01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:10,200 Speaker 1: should be safe for as much as possible. 1499 01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:12,960 Speaker 3: So can you what can you tell us about said project? 1500 01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:16,080 Speaker 3: Even though you're being very mysterious about the content of it. 1501 01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:21,519 Speaker 1: Said project is called to whom this may concern? 1502 01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:26,200 Speaker 3: I love this already. 1503 01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:32,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, me too, Me too. I recognize that who is 1504 01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:36,840 Speaker 1: for is who it's really really really for, and I'm 1505 01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:40,040 Speaker 1: excited for those people that it's really really really for. 1506 01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:43,880 Speaker 3: But what do you mean? What does that mean? Who 1507 01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:44,120 Speaker 3: is for? 1508 01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:51,360 Speaker 1: Meaning that the intention is to start a personal revolution 1509 01:28:53,360 --> 01:29:00,240 Speaker 1: or to allow a personal revolution for whomever is listen me? 1510 01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:16,080 Speaker 1: So uh, sexually, physically, mentally, spiritually, relationships thoughts yep, yep. 1511 01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:21,920 Speaker 1: So this first round of to whomless may concern? Uh 1512 01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:26,280 Speaker 1: is for those people that it will absolutely affect. I cannot. 1513 01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:30,800 Speaker 1: I'm very excited to see who will be affected. I 1514 01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,559 Speaker 1: put a lot of time, a lot of time and 1515 01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:39,559 Speaker 1: energy I put in it. When I say energy, I 1516 01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:45,840 Speaker 1: mean that I hoped and asked for certain musicianship, and 1517 01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:51,360 Speaker 1: they showed up in the most wonderful ways I wanted. 1518 01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:56,800 Speaker 1: I wanted horns. So I'm talking to David Banner, and 1519 01:29:56,920 --> 01:30:00,320 Speaker 1: David Banner says called Trombone Shorty and I I was like, 1520 01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:05,080 Speaker 1: Trombone Shorty, Like, this is an artist. We have his 1521 01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:07,400 Speaker 1: book in our house. I read it to my kid 1522 01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:11,479 Speaker 1: as he was growing up. So I ended up calling 1523 01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:15,400 Speaker 1: Trombone Shorty and talking to him. The man did four 1524 01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:20,599 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty tracks for one song. That level of 1525 01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:24,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to give you everything I got Woman was 1526 01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:29,040 Speaker 1: beautiful for me. Oh, I appreciate it so much. And 1527 01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:32,240 Speaker 1: that's kind of the way that the album worked. I 1528 01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:35,479 Speaker 1: did my part and then I was like, show me 1529 01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:39,840 Speaker 1: what's next, and people showed up and they did their part, 1530 01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:44,200 Speaker 1: and I was like, that's what you know, Like it 1531 01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:49,000 Speaker 1: was its spirit based project, and I think that's what 1532 01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:52,240 Speaker 1: I know. That's what makes me so excited about it. 1533 01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:55,280 Speaker 1: Not to even put a lot on I'm not trying 1534 01:30:55,280 --> 01:31:00,360 Speaker 1: to do that. It's to whom this consir. I don't 1535 01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:03,599 Speaker 1: concern you. Cool if it doesn't concern you. If it's 1536 01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:06,560 Speaker 1: not your thing, then okay. But for Who Is For 1537 01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:15,840 Speaker 1: is absolutely who is For. It will be released February thirteenth. Yeah, geekes, 1538 01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:18,920 Speaker 1: wow that soon? Yes, it is. 1539 01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:22,160 Speaker 3: And does this mean like just going to be touring? Yeah, 1540 01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:26,479 Speaker 3: you're a touring artist. Yeah, yeah, definitely touring. 1541 01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:33,000 Speaker 1: Definitely, videos and visualizers and performances and all the things 1542 01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:36,400 Speaker 1: that go into letting people know that the album It's 1543 01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:38,360 Speaker 1: a Whomless May Concern is available. 1544 01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:41,519 Speaker 3: I feel like the world needs a project like that 1545 01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:41,960 Speaker 3: right now. 1546 01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:44,840 Speaker 1: I certainly believe so, me too. 1547 01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:47,559 Speaker 3: You must be very proud of yourself. 1548 01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:51,120 Speaker 1: I feel proud. You should. 1549 01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:56,960 Speaker 3: I feel proud in real life. What are you most 1550 01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:58,400 Speaker 3: proud of about yourself? 1551 01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:05,640 Speaker 1: Oh? These are good questions, Angie Martinez, Well, thank you. 1552 01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:10,599 Speaker 1: Jill Scott, journalist asked, I think at the today, I'll 1553 01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:19,000 Speaker 1: just say, as of today, I'm most proud that whatever 1554 01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:30,800 Speaker 1: Lemon's life gave me, I have managed two enjoy a 1555 01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:41,519 Speaker 1: Lemonade smoothie with with a sour dough crust, toasted bread 1556 01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:51,559 Speaker 1: Gouda cheese wagu burger with palm friends in the South 1557 01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:56,320 Speaker 1: of Spain, that I have managed to make whatever has 1558 01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:59,759 Speaker 1: come my way so beautiful to me that I wouldn't 1559 01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:03,679 Speaker 1: change whatever. I'm very proud of that. 1560 01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:06,679 Speaker 3: I thought you were just gonna say lemonade. 1561 01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:12,719 Speaker 1: It's a whole, it's a whole meal. It's a whole 1562 01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:16,840 Speaker 1: lovely smoothie. And you know I love the foods references 1563 01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:20,000 Speaker 1: because I do food. I do love the. 1564 01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:22,720 Speaker 3: One thing about you gonna give it. 1565 01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:26,440 Speaker 1: I will do my best to give you. 1566 01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:26,599 Speaker 3: All. 1567 01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:31,320 Speaker 1: The vocabulary in this album is amazing. It's amazing. It's 1568 01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:32,120 Speaker 1: your favorite word. 1569 01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:36,360 Speaker 3: You're using the album Oh gosh, too hard. 1570 01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:43,439 Speaker 1: I did so many. Somebody helped me, Like favorite word, 1571 01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:47,880 Speaker 1: what shauna? You look like you were going to say something. 1572 01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:50,120 Speaker 3: I I feel like it's going to be like a 1573 01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:54,719 Speaker 3: sexual reference or a or like a I don't know something. 1574 01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:59,360 Speaker 1: It could be a sexual or like I'm telling you, 1575 01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:03,519 Speaker 1: I'm more than one trick. I beause I just happened 1576 01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:07,320 Speaker 1: to love my sexuality. I happen to love great sex 1577 01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:10,880 Speaker 1: for people. I believe you want great sex for everyone. 1578 01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:17,160 Speaker 1: I really know, because it fortifies you. It fortifies it, 1579 01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:20,080 Speaker 1: it smooths out, it gives you another level of strength, 1580 01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:26,040 Speaker 1: it helps you sleep. It's good for the people. It's 1581 01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:30,599 Speaker 1: good and you deserve it. I wrote a song about 1582 01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:34,959 Speaker 1: that too. I did, yes, I did. 1583 01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:40,040 Speaker 3: A vocabulary where if you don't have it, it's okay. 1584 01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:43,559 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many, there's so many, just give us. 1585 01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:46,080 Speaker 3: One doesn't have to be your favorite word that stands 1586 01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:47,160 Speaker 3: out the first one that comes. 1587 01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:50,680 Speaker 1: I mean so honestly, there's so many, and I've been 1588 01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:54,040 Speaker 1: listening so much. I have to literally go down each 1589 01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:57,600 Speaker 1: song to find out the one, or the two or 1590 01:34:57,600 --> 01:34:58,000 Speaker 1: the five. 1591 01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:01,960 Speaker 3: What is in real life? What is one thing you 1592 01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:04,639 Speaker 3: are no longer apologizing for. 1593 01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:08,560 Speaker 1: Myself? 1594 01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:11,519 Speaker 3: Did you ever? 1595 01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:14,320 Speaker 1: Oh? I felt like I needed to. I mean people, 1596 01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:17,760 Speaker 1: I felt like I needed to I refuse. I'm not 1597 01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:21,920 Speaker 1: doing that anymore. What am I doing that for? 1598 01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:23,040 Speaker 3: You know? 1599 01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:25,920 Speaker 1: Even internally I didn't. I don't think I necessarily did 1600 01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:33,840 Speaker 1: it publicly, but even internally, like, fuck that shit. I 1601 01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:37,360 Speaker 1: am all of this woman, I am every bit of it. 1602 01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:43,120 Speaker 1: I am a mother, I am a daughter. I am vulnerable, 1603 01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:48,839 Speaker 1: I am aggressive, I am submissive, I am a learner. 1604 01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:53,400 Speaker 1: I am dumb. I am figuring it out as I go. 1605 01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:59,439 Speaker 1: I'm enjoying my ride. I say way often. I sleep 1606 01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:02,840 Speaker 1: when I can, And you know, I put my feet 1607 01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:07,000 Speaker 1: in grass like I hang with really amazing people that 1608 01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:13,200 Speaker 1: love me for real. For real, I pay my bills, 1609 01:36:15,200 --> 01:36:18,280 Speaker 1: I go on dope vacations. I do a lot of 1610 01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:21,320 Speaker 1: dope ship on a regular because I think that's what's 1611 01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:24,760 Speaker 1: supposed to happen, and I enjoy it. I am. I 1612 01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:27,519 Speaker 1: am a woman enjoying my life. And I don't know 1613 01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:30,880 Speaker 1: what else to tell you. 1614 01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:33,080 Speaker 3: Jill Scott has figured out real life. Ladies and gentlemen. 1615 01:36:33,160 --> 01:36:36,719 Speaker 1: Listen, Jill Scott in real off. Do the best I can, baby, 1616 01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:39,720 Speaker 1: doing the best I can. She has figured it the 1617 01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:40,519 Speaker 1: fuck out. 1618 01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:42,559 Speaker 3: Here's to figuring it the fun out. 1619 01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:44,800 Speaker 1: Here's to figuring the fuck out. 1620 01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:46,840 Speaker 3: Well done, man, Thank you. 1621 01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:51,719 Speaker 1: This is Jill Scott in real Life. 1622 01:36:52,120 --> 01:36:53,160 Speaker 7: Hey guys, thanks for watching. 1623 01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:56,680 Speaker 3: Make sure you subscribe, like comments, and check out all 1624 01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:58,360 Speaker 3: of the other episodes we have on Edge. 1625 01:36:58,360 --> 01:36:59,759 Speaker 7: Martinez I RL podcast. 1626 01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:03,240 Speaker 9: Bannan Bandan