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Speaker 1: we are with my intrepid crew, Terra Sude, Daniel Romo,
Speaker 1: Amy Sugarman the season five episode ten, but not as
Speaker 1: cute as Poushkin Danielle. Hello, everybody, how are you? We love?
Speaker 3: We love this episode, dem oh loved.
Speaker 2: It is so good and bravo to you. It's a
Speaker 2: big Luke episode. It's a big Luke episode with very
Speaker 2: very emotional scenes.
Speaker 1: If you want to see Luke Dane's unloading on an
Speaker 1: elderly woman in a driveway, this is your episode. This
Speaker 1: is this is the one.
Speaker 2: This is You did okay though, because you were an ass,
Speaker 2: But I thoroughly enjoyed it. Am that poor woman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt bad for her, I really did. But
Speaker 1: she hung in there like a champ, didn't she. She
Speaker 1: took all those shots and she.
Speaker 2: Was she really wasn't even frazzled. She wasn't even frazzled.
Speaker 2: She's like, should we sit down? You're losing your mind anyway.
Speaker 1: Remember I'm going to be appearing at Louisville Popcorn Louisville, Kentucky,
Speaker 1: June sixteenth through eighteen.
Speaker 2: I saw that on your Instagram, and.
Speaker 1: There's a new one. I'm gonna be in South Carolina.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna Charleston, South Carolina. I saw September the sixteenth,
Speaker 1: one day only with Chad, Michael Murray and Matt Sucre.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yes, so that's like a fab five event dot com.
Speaker 1: So that's one day only September sixteenth, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: par already down in South Carolina, beautiful Charleston.
Speaker 2: Can you maybe bring your audio recorder and just get
Speaker 2: us a little something something well.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, look, yes, we're gonna have to.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to. We're gonna have to record that panel.
Speaker 2: That one is amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna be a big time. So maybe it's
Speaker 1: another trip for Tara down Ohlson.
Speaker 4: Last year you were Charleston. Same as last year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, same promoters, with different venue I think. And plus
Speaker 1: there's a Chad piece and a Matte piece. Fin there
Speaker 1: you go. All right, everybody, anyway, let's synopsize and get
Speaker 1: into it. Danielle take it away.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 6: This is season five, episode ten, but not as cute
Speaker 6: as Pushkin Air Date November thirtieth, two thousand and four,
Speaker 6: Rory is asked to host a chiltern student for a
Speaker 6: few days at Yale, but the student is more interested
Speaker 6: in her freedoms than the responsibilities that go with them.
Speaker 5: Lorelei learns about.
Speaker 6: Luke's Dark Day, which happens to fall on the same
Speaker 6: day as Miss Patty's fortieth anniversary party. Paris tried speed
Speaker 6: dating and finds herself paired with Doyle. Logan embarrasses Rory,
Speaker 6: prompting her and Richard to pull a little prink of
Speaker 6: their own.
Speaker 2: So fricking good. This was so good. I can't wait
Speaker 2: to talk about Logan, but first for Scott and Danielle,
Speaker 2: because I think we touched on it maybe in a
Speaker 2: previous podcast. Did you see Paris and Doyle coming?
Speaker 1: I did not. I did not, but I thought it's
Speaker 1: one of the more satisfying couplings and Gilmore girls thus far.
Speaker 1: Really funny. One of the great lines of all time
Speaker 1: came out of it. End this episode, and I'll get
Speaker 1: into that later, but I loved it. I think it's
Speaker 1: their share a brain, They're meant for each other. It's perfect.
Speaker 5: I agree.
Speaker 6: I weirdly thought Doyle was gonna like Rory. But I'm
Speaker 6: pleasantly surprised that it's a match with Paris, and it
Speaker 6: makes me really happy.
Speaker 2: They are very like an instant match.
Speaker 5: They could they are each other.
Speaker 1: That could have been an interesting spinoff show.
Speaker 2: Actually, Scott, that is really I've never thought of that,
Speaker 2: and I actually I could totally enjoy that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I you know, I think they were. I
Speaker 1: don't know that they ever considered any spin offs because
Speaker 1: than the just one, the jet right right, because he
Speaker 1: wasn't that well established and he was young enough where
Speaker 1: people were going to you know, migrate over and anyway.
Speaker 1: But I remember having this conversation in the executive dining
Speaker 1: room with one of the big executives about spinning off
Speaker 1: and potential spinoffs and all this because they were you know,
Speaker 1: the executives over there are really accessible and yeah, really
Speaker 1: smart and forthcoming with information and they're just very friendly
Speaker 1: people and they invites you to lunch and they're.
Speaker 2: Wonderful, fancy fancy dining room. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, the explanation that you would hear over and
Speaker 1: over is they would miss if you did a spin
Speaker 1: off with just a couple of main characters whatever they'd miss.
Speaker 1: The audience would miss the characters that weren't there, right right,
Speaker 1: they would be pining from now. It worked. I think
Speaker 1: it worked with All in the Family and Archie's Place,
Speaker 1: and I don't know how long that went. It worked
Speaker 1: with Frasier, okay, because he was such a dynamic, entertaining
Speaker 1: character in his own right. You know that he had
Speaker 1: the skill set and the charisma and the presence to
Speaker 1: pull off his own.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those interesting examples because some of it, like the Jeffersons,
Speaker 2: you're you could still watch All in the Family, and
Speaker 2: then the Jeffersons was like just a part of it.
Speaker 2: You know, you don't miss him so much, right, same
Speaker 2: thing like Happy Days spun off Mork and Mindy, but
Speaker 2: like Mork was on it just one episode, you know,
Speaker 2: it's not like you're missing it.
Speaker 1: And you have a Robin Williams totally just like kinda
Speaker 1: hit it out of the park every time he shows up.
Speaker 2: It's a good point though, because Joni Loves Chauci didn't work,
Speaker 2: then they just send them back to Happiness.
Speaker 1: So but I think that is one of the couplings
Speaker 1: that you know that might have been interesting.
Speaker 2: I like that after the seven years, so you finish
Speaker 2: the series and then you spin it off and we
Speaker 2: follow Paris and Doyle on their journey.
Speaker 1: Doesn't necessarily have to be Paris and Doyle. It could
Speaker 1: be two characters very very similar, maybe written by the
Speaker 1: same writing team.
Speaker 2: I can't wait for you to watch butnheads, then you're gonna.
Speaker 1: Like one Justice I've never seen it.
Speaker 2: No, I can't wait till you watch it because it
Speaker 2: is good. Wait, okay, so back on this.
Speaker 1: Sorry, when am I watching this doing more homework? I
Speaker 1: have more homework.
Speaker 2: When we finish Gilmour Girls, we'll get into So in
Speaker 2: the beginning of this episode, I actually watched it three
Speaker 2: times because I had a hard time. I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's like my ears or I just wasn't getting it.
Speaker 2: So Laurelize walking and I realized later it's the bag
Speaker 2: of shoes and she bumps into Miss Patty and then
Speaker 2: does she say something about Carrie Bradshaw? Is that what
Speaker 2: she was saying? I think it was, but I was
Speaker 2: like a little confused by the beginning.
Speaker 6: Yeah, she says, Patty says, goodness, what's left to wear
Speaker 6: on your feet? And Laura l I says, I know
Speaker 6: it's a sickness. Everyone thinks it started with Bradshaw, but
Speaker 6: it actually came over on the Mayflower.
Speaker 2: Oh, because she's saying, now I get it. Oh that
Speaker 2: took me a minute because she had so many shoes
Speaker 2: in that bag, and I don't think we'd ever seen
Speaker 2: the shoe repair placed before.
Speaker 1: No, anyone quite exciting. We must have opening up a
Speaker 1: new territory. We were there. It's the first time it happened.
Speaker 2: And then we learn of Miss Patty's fortieth anniversary in
Speaker 2: the business that is show legit. You know.
Speaker 1: You starting interrupt, But I think the purpose of that
Speaker 1: scene was to get the information out that it's Luke's
Speaker 1: dark day.
Speaker 2: Of course a percent.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The one thing I do like about Gilmore Girls is
Speaker 2: they always make sure like there's a lot of alcohol
Speaker 2: flowing on Gilmore Girls. She's like, well that food well booze.
Speaker 2: Like They're always like, we need a drink, you know
Speaker 2: at the.
Speaker 4: At the first thing is a drink.
Speaker 2: Like It's definitely a part of the show.
Speaker 5: M my type of show Amy.
Speaker 1: Where are you are you? Are you at a recording studio?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Does it look like I am Are you at a
Speaker 1: record Are you in a hotel.
Speaker 2: I'm in my loft in my house in Tahoe.
Speaker 1: Oh really, it looks like you're in a high end
Speaker 1: hotel because I see the three little bottles.
Speaker 4: Of water, bottles of water.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like looks like very hoteling.
Speaker 2: Like it's my mini bar, it's just my minivar. I'm
Speaker 2: literally in a room that has like the lowest ceiling.
Speaker 2: It's crazy. Okay, I can't even explain to you where
Speaker 2: I am, but hopefully I sound okay. So we get
Speaker 2: into hearing about Luke's Dark Day, which I think we'll
Speaker 2: really delve into because I thought that that makes the
Speaker 2: character complex, like I want we'll get into that later.
Speaker 2: So we then switch over and we see Paris and
Speaker 2: the Life Coach has returned. Terrence, the Life Coach is back,
Speaker 2: and I think that's when. Yeah, so this is when
Speaker 2: Rory gets the call from head Master Chiltern, I mean
Speaker 2: head Master Charleston at Chilton and Anna is coming. So
Speaker 2: what did you all think?
Speaker 1: It's a nice surprise to inject a guest star in
Speaker 1: that fashion. It shows Rory in a different light. Alexis
Speaker 1: had to memorize a lot more dialogue because oh a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, she just had to talk talk talk talk talk.
Speaker 2: Literally.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot of black ink right there. Understand,
Speaker 1: a lot of black ant, says Rory, and then black
Speaker 1: chunks of black ink.
Speaker 2: A lot of boring Yale history that I didn't realize
Speaker 2: until you just said that she really had to kind
Speaker 2: of keep going.
Speaker 1: And the fact that she knew all that history was
Speaker 1: pretty amazing. Right, So she'd prepped or she'd read up
Speaker 1: on the history of Yale before she even applied, I guess,
Speaker 1: but she knew her stuff.
Speaker 6: I tried thinking about like the college I went too.
Speaker 6: I couldn't tell you one thing about any of those
Speaker 6: benches or like even the history behind the buildings. I'm
Speaker 6: like that very impressive, Rory. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: I actually do know a few facts. Do you guys
Speaker 2: want me to tell you one weird fact about UC Berkeley? Yeah,
Speaker 2: go for it, Okay, The this is This would have
Speaker 2: been good if I was hosting Anna Fairchild. The Architecture building,
Speaker 2: how is it is? It's designed to be boring? Right,
Speaker 2: It's the most plain building. I couldn't think of the word.
Speaker 2: It's created to be boring. It's the most dull building
Speaker 2: on the whole campus so that the architecture students when
Speaker 2: they go in don't have any like preconceived ideas of architecture.
Speaker 2: So because they're going into that building every day, so
Speaker 2: they wanted it to be like plane and boring. It
Speaker 2: was conceived to be that way. Fun fact. What you
Speaker 2: guys got fun fact.
Speaker 1: Could be a fun fact from my college. Yeah, can
Speaker 1: you think I just remember well, I went to Rutgers
Speaker 1: and I remember being intimidated by Hill Center, which was
Speaker 1: the math and science and computer buildings part of the campus.
Speaker 1: And it was very intimidating, It's all I remember. It
Speaker 1: seemed like, you know, smart people. Yeah, and I didn't
Speaker 1: know what the heck guy was doing there. So, uh,
Speaker 1: I was taking all these courses and I'm like, Jesus.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have excited when when Headmaster Charleston says that
Speaker 2: Anna's coming, because I thought, oh, this is going to
Speaker 2: be good. This is sort of like I just had
Speaker 2: a feeling it was going to be good and kind
Speaker 2: of fun. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was excited to hear back.
Speaker 6: I was excited to hear back from Chilton, you know,
Speaker 6: like I wanted Chilton to re emerge somehow, and I'm
Speaker 6: happy that this is how it re emerged.
Speaker 1: But isn't his wasn't his dialogue and his manner and
Speaker 1: his tone so great? I mean, did they really nail
Speaker 1: the dialogue for the head Headminister Charleston? Charlton especially really late,
Speaker 1: he really laid it on thick with that that New
Speaker 1: England d totally refledged upper crusty tone, and especially.
Speaker 2: At the end when we get the payoff with him
Speaker 2: calling Rory. I know I'm jumping ahead, but like he's
Speaker 2: so like irritated, but he doesn't get angry.
Speaker 6: He's so just like he can't get angry. He literally
Speaker 6: can't get angry, and he can't scold her. She doesn't
Speaker 6: go there anymore.
Speaker 3: He holding her in a very proper way where she's
Speaker 3: just like, oh that hurt. Like I can tell she
Speaker 3: was like bummed back.
Speaker 2: I love what she's like. I think I somehow like
Speaker 2: didn't graduate.
Speaker 1: Now what retroactively failed me? The one thing that.
Speaker 2: I thought was a little interesting about this episode. So
Speaker 2: we go to the poolhouse and Richard and Rory are
Speaker 2: so bonded about the what she should show Anna and
Speaker 2: just all the history of Yale and Rory so excited. Laura.
Speaker 2: I was just a hint too bitter for me, Like
Speaker 2: she was so sort of mad about it, and I
Speaker 2: thought the jokes were funny because she was like she
Speaker 2: was right being like, this is so not gonna be
Speaker 2: fun for this girl, but she was just like a
Speaker 2: hint too mad. I'm like, why is she not like
Speaker 2: supporting her kid's love of Yale.
Speaker 1: M mm hmm.
Speaker 6: Well there's one reason why, because her parents are.
Speaker 2: Exactly interjection is that the fashion this episode, which we'll
Speaker 2: talk about, was super leveled up. I thought everyone looked amazing,
Speaker 2: like localize in that red sweater with the cutouts, and
Speaker 2: Rory was wearing all these layers. But I do want
Speaker 2: to talk about that. The scarf is literally the indicator
Speaker 2: that it's winter. Every character scarf, Like I'm not kidding that,
Speaker 2: it's just must be like, Okay, we want the audience
Speaker 2: to know it's winter, throw a scarf on them, but
Speaker 2: like not.
Speaker 6: Even like cute ones, those skinny ones.
Speaker 2: That don't it's pretty nineties. But we can we can
Speaker 2: dissect the scarves later. Okay. So we do get little
Speaker 2: tidbit here at the pool House portion of Friday Night
Speaker 2: Dinner in that he brings up Logan so Richard brings
Speaker 2: up mister Huntsberger, and Laura's kind of like, who is that?
Speaker 2: So they talk about Logan, they talk about Mitcham, that
Speaker 2: Mitcham owns the paper, so I thought that was significant.
Speaker 1: He really just started pushing the Logan relationship potential very
Speaker 1: quickly out of the gate. I mean, it's like the
Speaker 1: first time Laura I heard that information, Richard knew about it,
Speaker 1: and he's already scheming, you know. He's like, it's just like,
Speaker 1: this is like, this is how you kill a relationship.
Speaker 1: This is how you kill the I mean, if she
Speaker 1: had any kind of enticement or any kind of curiosity
Speaker 1: as to you know, forgiving Logan his obvious you know,
Speaker 1: the obvious obstacles there in place for Ror to overcome
Speaker 1: personality wise, you know, Richard kind of Kenny. I don't know,
Speaker 1: did he did? He did? He did he make it
Speaker 1: more difficult for those two to get together? And was
Speaker 1: that his purpose?
Speaker 2: I'm wondering if Okay, and I might be reading too
Speaker 2: much into this, but I'm thinking maybe Richard saw their chemistry,
Speaker 2: which they undeniably have, and so did Marty. So it's
Speaker 2: almost like Rory is the last to open her eyes
Speaker 2: to it because I think Richard did that because he
Speaker 2: literally saw how comfortable they were together. They really, especially
Speaker 2: at that party. Logan was so comfortable with Rory. It
Speaker 2: was like they were besties. So maybe Richard saw it
Speaker 2: and leaned into it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he really leaned into it.
Speaker 2: So then we kind of get to.
Speaker 1: This because he's giddy. He was giddy. He was giddy,
Speaker 1: he was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's into it. So then I thought the transition
Speaker 2: was a little weird because all of a sudden, we
Speaker 2: leave Friday night dinner and lorealize it. Luke's with no pants, Like,
Speaker 2: she's just wearing your shirt getting pie. So I was
Speaker 2: a little bit like, whoa, But I'm assuming maybe she
Speaker 2: just goes there after Friday night dinner.
Speaker 1: I think they have a very healthy physical life. I
Speaker 1: think they I think they enjoy each other's company in
Speaker 1: private quarters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is a line that's always stood out
Speaker 2: to me the whole run of you know, every time
Speaker 2: I've watched Gilmore Girls. She says, this is nice. I
Speaker 2: think it's going very well, you and me, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it is. They're so comfortable. Then we kind of get
Speaker 2: the dark day we learn about we don't get into why,
Speaker 2: but she mentions Patty's and then Luke really changes and
Speaker 2: he's like, can you turn the light off? I gotta
Speaker 2: get up early. So I don't know, Scott, like, what
Speaker 2: are you thinking about your performance?
Speaker 7: A cent?
Speaker 1: I liked it. I thought everything was going well. I enjoyed.
Speaker 1: You know, he's an intense guy and he's got his
Speaker 1: quirks and his secrets and he's you know, he's not yeah,
Speaker 1: and it just makes me want to know, as an
Speaker 1: audience more about his relationship with his dad.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 1: It must have been something very very special for him to,
Speaker 1: you know, at this stage of his life to really
Speaker 1: like have a dark day and it's just every year
Speaker 1: and it's just really but you know me, it's very sad, sad.
Speaker 5: You know what's interesting.
Speaker 6: I kind of thought of it like a little bit
Speaker 6: differently than you. I kind of was like, he has
Speaker 6: such a like a like especially with the boat, which
Speaker 6: we'll talk about later, like such a I want this away.
Speaker 6: For a second, I was kind of like, oh, maybe
Speaker 6: they didn't have a good relationship. But then I was like,
Speaker 6: why would he take over the diner? Why would he
Speaker 6: you know, like buy that building? And you know, be
Speaker 6: so invested in things.
Speaker 5: That his dad built.
Speaker 6: Right, and then at the end it kind of made
Speaker 6: me like oh no, no, no, go back to like
Speaker 6: how what you were just saying, like no they I
Speaker 6: think he was a very special person to Luke and
Speaker 6: somebody that he definitely idolized, and it's hard for him
Speaker 6: to have that person gone.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think he really looked up to him, and
Speaker 1: he's very sentimental about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was kind of venturing to say two things
Speaker 2: about Luke. One is I think his father was the
Speaker 2: most important person to him until Lorali. I think she
Speaker 2: is not in the same way obviously, but that's why
Speaker 2: he tells her about the dark day. It's like she
Speaker 2: has leveled up to this person that's so important to him.
Speaker 2: And I think the other thing that I'd love for
Speaker 2: Scott to talk about is like Luke is not a
Speaker 2: simple guy. You sometimes think he is. He's the guy,
Speaker 2: you know, he's he owns diner, he's you know, he's
Speaker 2: not overly fancy, he's but he isn't simple. He's complicated,
Speaker 2: he's got, he's smart, he's there's so much more to him.
Speaker 2: I find personally, as he's.
Speaker 5: Kind of emotional very.
Speaker 6: Mm hmm, and you wouldn't think that at first.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's yeah, there's a there's a volcano under there, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like okay, so we'll dig into all the scenes.
Speaker 2: But like for Scott, i'd love to hear like because
Speaker 2: this was so there was each scene was emotional. The
Speaker 2: scene with you know, first you are like, no, I
Speaker 2: don't want to turn the light off, then the one
Speaker 2: with the woman at the garage that you rent for
Speaker 2: the boat, then getting upset at Loralai, then going back
Speaker 2: every single scene that Luke has.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why I think it's affecting you
Speaker 1: this way. And I'm going to be really open about
Speaker 1: this and they probably shouldn't be, but I think it's interesting,
Speaker 1: you know, and I haven't thought about this before, but
Speaker 1: it just hit me. I think Luke at that time,
Speaker 1: and as I interpreted the character in those scenes at
Speaker 1: that time was a two thousand and six, two thousand
Speaker 1: and five, two thousand and six.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it doesn't. Four yeah, four.
Speaker 1: I think the reason that it was so intense for
Speaker 1: me and that's how it came out. I watched it,
Speaker 1: but boy, that's that's something I think it was me
Speaker 1: interpreting the character as if I was wishing that I
Speaker 1: had had that kind of relationship with my own real father.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: M hmmm.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, there's something. I there's something to it, especially
Speaker 2: in this episode.
Speaker 1: And I think that's that's the longing, and that's the
Speaker 1: the you know, the the emptiness, the whole inside Luke's
Speaker 1: soul that his father's gone is really the whole inside
Speaker 1: of the actor. Yeah, who never really had that closeness
Speaker 1: with his own dat.
Speaker 2: That makes sense to me because these scenes were really
Speaker 2: powerful and they all stand out and they're not over
Speaker 2: the top, they're not too little. To me, they were
Speaker 2: just like I would react that way. I think if
Speaker 2: my girlfriend boyfriend had gone and got that boat even
Speaker 2: though I said no, even though they did it for
Speaker 2: the right reasons, Like the emotion is so raw and
Speaker 2: then and you did the right thing by going right
Speaker 2: back to her, And I just thought it was very real.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it felt real.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the best performances are you draw from
Speaker 1: your own life and you draw from the script. Right,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a balancing act. You can't help but
Speaker 1: draw from your own life, because what else what other
Speaker 1: frame of reference do you have, Right, It's not like
Speaker 1: it's not like there's a history of the Guilford Girls
Speaker 1: that you can that you can research, right, So you
Speaker 1: kind of make it up. You make up your own
Speaker 1: psychological profile.
Speaker 2: Right, based on what your own experiences.
Speaker 1: Right, And therein lies the uniqueness which you can bring
Speaker 1: to the character. Right. So yeah, powerful, Yeah it can be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it can be. And I think in that situation it was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: I also think one of the things I because I really,
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a ten for me. I love
Speaker 2: this episode. So I think one of the things also
Speaker 2: was we're having these very serious moments with Luke and
Speaker 2: then we get to go back to Yale to just
Speaker 2: to have pure sort of like joy. So Anna Fairchild
Speaker 2: shows up and I thought she was darling, And I
Speaker 2: love the whole I just love the whole thing happening.
Speaker 2: I love Marty and he's got the caviare, he's too,
Speaker 2: got a scarf on, and it's just like Paris is amazing.
Speaker 2: Paris is just so like talking about Anna arriving with
Speaker 2: her perky breasts and just the whole so good. And
Speaker 2: we get this levity over here because we're dealing with
Speaker 2: like some real heaviness over here.
Speaker 6: I think we needed it, like we needed it. Otherwise
Speaker 6: we both, like four of us would have shown up
Speaker 6: today being like.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, it's a good but tough episode to watch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like back in Star's Hollow you felt that emotion,
Speaker 3: but then at Yale you kind of felt that lightness
Speaker 3: and airiness, and I know.
Speaker 2: We're we're not quite there, but for me, I'm sure
Speaker 2: they thought of that call and Finn Logan bit and
Speaker 2: they put it in the perfect episode because it was
Speaker 2: so epic, like okay, we'll get to it. So so
Speaker 2: basically we've got her showing this an a fair job
Speaker 2: all around with the most boring Yeale speeches and you
Speaker 2: know she's she's going all over and Logan of course
Speaker 2: shows up perfectly right at the right time at the library,
Speaker 2: so we oh, Logan, you know, here he is. And
Speaker 2: Anna of course is kind of like hard eyes for
Speaker 2: him and all the boys. So I just I don't know.
Speaker 2: To me, the whole thing is just perfectly done.
Speaker 3: I love that she just wants nothing to do with
Speaker 3: them right now at the stage.
Speaker 2: Right which I think is why he's getting so into her.
Speaker 4: Totally.
Speaker 2: It's so good Okay, well, so I digress. So the
Speaker 2: other things happening is it Kirk's got his bathtub adhesives,
Speaker 2: and everyone knows about the Dark Day, but no one
Speaker 2: knows why the Dark Day exists.
Speaker 6: Before we move on from that, like that is a
Speaker 6: big thing to actually understand that this whole town knows
Speaker 6: that Luke has his Dark Day, but nobody knows until.
Speaker 5: He tells Larela. I like, Loreli is.
Speaker 6: Now the only person that holds this information. I think
Speaker 6: that just obviously shows the level they're at in their relationship.
Speaker 2: Totally. So it's like he goes and yells at that
Speaker 2: poor woman in the driveway, and this is where Lorelai
Speaker 2: really kind of steps in. But Scott, when you're watching that,
Speaker 2: what were you?
Speaker 1: I liked it. I enjoyed watching it. I I you know,
Speaker 1: I'm so you know, I'm so far removed from the
Speaker 1: character at this point. I mean, in terms of years,
Speaker 1: it's been a couple of decades, right plus plus decade
Speaker 1: to two and a half decades that I can watch
Speaker 1: it objectively almost Yeah, And I thought, yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed those I thought they were funny. I thought
Speaker 1: they were funny. I thought they were. They were big,
Speaker 1: you know, big sweeping gesticulations and body movements, and it
Speaker 1: was kind of funny, funny, and.
Speaker 2: You're not mad at him because you don't feel like
Speaker 2: he's abusing her. You feel like, oh God, this guy
Speaker 2: is unhinged and having a meltdown, and everyone just wants
Speaker 2: to like help him, even missus Thompson, Like she's not mad,
Speaker 2: she's just like this poor guy, Like I got to
Speaker 2: move into a nursing home, dude.
Speaker 3: The one thing, the one thing that I found interesting though,
Speaker 3: did anyone else think, like, how did Laura I never
Speaker 3: know about his dark Day?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, how did she never know? In the entire
Speaker 2: town knows And they've been even asked Rory to look
Speaker 2: at her journal.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's because they weren't.
Speaker 4: They weren't as involved, they.
Speaker 1: Weren't as involved. And it's really kind of for boting
Speaker 1: that you're going to try to get underneath Luke's shell
Speaker 1: to that degree to even broach that topic. That's not
Speaker 1: going to happen.
Speaker 3: But everyone else in the everyone else in the town
Speaker 3: knew about it, Like they didn't know what it's.
Speaker 1: About, dark Day, but they didn't know the reason.
Speaker 4: Correct?
Speaker 1: Correct?
Speaker 2: Carla I didn't even know the Dark Day existed. And
Speaker 2: you would at least if she had to go to
Speaker 2: Al's Pancake World every year on November thirtieth, she would
Speaker 2: remember that.
Speaker 1: Yeah that you know what you're right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, like that is like it wasn't it wasn't more
Speaker 4: of what it was.
Speaker 3: It was that it was a dark day, like, and
Speaker 3: I would understand if she forgot the date, like, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I forgot today is the day, But to not know
Speaker 3: that it exists, I was like, that doesn't feel right,
Speaker 3: Like it just feels off.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, she's busy. Look, single moms are busy.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like and she's guys and she's raising
Speaker 1: her daughter, she's dealing with her parents, she's stealing.
Speaker 3: And she cares for she cares for Luke. So that's
Speaker 3: another reason why I'm like, how would she never know?
Speaker 2: Right? Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good that's a good catch. That's a
Speaker 1: good catch.
Speaker 2: It's a little bit of a flaw, but the whole
Speaker 2: episode wouldn't have been as good as she knew totally.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a very crack staffy. Beside, we have some openings,
Speaker 1: like to join ther crackstaff. Yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 1: they're coming back from Tahiti, and I think it's.
Speaker 5: I think it's sweet.
Speaker 2: First of all, she calls him hun, she calms him down,
Speaker 2: She convinces him to get a ride back to the diner.
Speaker 2: He starts to sort of tell her that about you know,
Speaker 2: the boat, and you know what.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about when when I'll give you a ride
Speaker 1: back to the diner because the proximity of where they
Speaker 1: were thirty steps.
Speaker 2: I also think there was a great kiss my grits
Speaker 2: from Flow that was a funny pop culture which I'm
Speaker 2: sure we'll talk about. But anyway, so he talks about
Speaker 2: his dad getting sick and that this boat has been there,
Speaker 2: you know, he's been paying rent for all these years
Speaker 2: and doesn't want to deal with it. He doesn't want
Speaker 2: to deal with it. It makes him too sad.
Speaker 1: I think, I think it must have been a really
Speaker 1: horrible illness and a protracted, horrible, painful ye maybe year,
Speaker 1: maybe two years of just horrible horribles.
Speaker 2: Like cancer or something like something not good happens. Yes,
Speaker 2: so yeah, so then we we we really have like
Speaker 2: a juxtaposition, like we talked about. We go to the
Speaker 2: pub and they're getting the cappuccinos and Anna suddenly has
Speaker 2: Mark and Matthew talking to her, and I love when
Speaker 2: Rory's like bud bite, like just dealing with all that.
Speaker 2: So I just thought, Okay, this is all good. You know,
Speaker 2: this is a funny other side to what's happening in
Speaker 2: Stars follow up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yale has really developed into a whole other side
Speaker 1: of the show that's very satisfying.
Speaker 5: It finally feels like college. Does that makes sense?
Speaker 3: It does, yes, But I was thinking it feels like
Speaker 3: college because she's actually doing college y things now, yes,
Speaker 3: Like she's on the school paper and she's hanging out
Speaker 3: with anyone else but Paris, you.
Speaker 2: Know right now.
Speaker 6: But also Paris too, you know, she's not dating Asher anymore.
Speaker 6: Like she's actually like, ugh, I got to find a
Speaker 6: date now, you know, and doing the speed dating and
Speaker 6: all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Characters from Paris, right, Yeah, she's not playing anything with
Speaker 1: the old people.
Speaker 2: Paris gets so fancy and goes out at eleven o'clock
Speaker 2: at night, and Anna's just loving every second of it, Like,
Speaker 2: oh my god. It's almost like we needed Anna to
Speaker 2: realize like what college should be, because it really becomes
Speaker 2: collegey in this episode. With the pub and the you know,
Speaker 2: going out late and then the speed dating, although that
Speaker 2: was random. I don't know that they would have.
Speaker 1: A meet me at the wrath Scaler the best.
Speaker 2: So Anna is falling asleep in class and it was
Speaker 2: Professor Bell, but we knew remember he was he also
Speaker 2: had a different role remember the actor yeh wasn't he?
Speaker 2: I think he was at Chilton.
Speaker 6: He was like a teacher or something like that, right.
Speaker 2: So he and he told us that he comes back
Speaker 2: and doesn't and I love that Anna's falling asleep and
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden incomes calling and Logan and you.
Speaker 4: I was just like I forgot. I was like, what
Speaker 4: is happening?
Speaker 7: I loved this so much, like, oh my god, I
Speaker 7: loved it, but I also hated how Rory reacted to it.
Speaker 6: I'm like, can you be more fun? Like everyone in
Speaker 6: this class knows that this is a joke, Like.
Speaker 3: Right off the bat, you're like, wait what And then
Speaker 3: as it when they bowed.
Speaker 5: At the end, Yeah, he straight up.
Speaker 2: Bowed like it was so funny.
Speaker 6: But once the police officer came in, You're like, oh,
Speaker 6: you know this.
Speaker 5: Is not real.
Speaker 2: You know it wasn't real. When they said give them
Speaker 2: back their balls.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, the best line, damn it, Gilmour.
Speaker 2: Theos is clapping. I literally was like that was hysterical.
Speaker 6: Hysterical and like something definitely like sorry, go ahead, no
Speaker 6: you go. I was gonna say, it's like definitely something
Speaker 6: that like fried kids do you know, they're just like
Speaker 6: you do shit all the time like that.
Speaker 2: There's the line where when Rory and Logan kind of
Speaker 2: go at it where Logan says like, this is college
Speaker 2: and I'm so glad he did that because Rory is
Speaker 2: going way too much just in the studies direction and
Speaker 2: not in the like experiencing college life, and Logan is
Speaker 2: finally getting her to do that.
Speaker 6: Like he even said, you know, like you'll have the
Speaker 6: class next week, like you know, like stop, like give
Speaker 6: yourself a break, like laugh a little, live a little,
Speaker 6: have some fun.
Speaker 2: I know people hate Logan, but for me, Logan is
Speaker 2: exactly what she needs. He's not gonna derail her. She's
Speaker 2: still gonna do well in school, like she's still gonna
Speaker 2: be like a good girl ish, but she needs some fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: Even Paris is like having Ash and now Doyle. It's
Speaker 2: like Paris is like in it. She's just peculiar. It's
Speaker 2: like Rory live a little.
Speaker 1: It's you know, the detail when when the Finn character
Speaker 1: came in dressed as an English bobby, I mean with
Speaker 1: the whistle. It was so perfect. It was like it
Speaker 1: was so great.
Speaker 3: I think I think, like you said, Amy, I think
Speaker 3: she needed Anna to realize like college is fun and
Speaker 3: it can't totally and it's not all schoolwork.
Speaker 2: She's being so Rory, but Anna is seeing it with
Speaker 2: the sort of like you can eat when you want,
Speaker 2: you can have five scoops of ice cream, like by
Speaker 2: the way sidebar when they say fro yo social I died,
Speaker 2: like it was just so good. But we'll talk about that.
Speaker 2: But anyway, it's like, yeah, she almost needed to get
Speaker 2: a little kick in the pants from Anna.
Speaker 4: Yeah, to live a little.
Speaker 2: So okay, I'm loving all of it, but we'll kind
Speaker 2: of rehash it. So then we go back and we
Speaker 2: see all this junk. But I have to shout out
Speaker 2: again Melissa McCarthy looks amazing and green. But Loreli in
Speaker 2: the red vest with the turquoise under. Oh, I literally
Speaker 2: wrote down, wear a red vest with turquoise under It
Speaker 2: was so good, so Anyway, this is where we realize
Speaker 2: all the junk is there and that lare Lies got
Speaker 2: the boat. That kind of is what it is. Then
Speaker 2: we go back to the speed dating. So what did
Speaker 2: you guys think of the speed dating?
Speaker 4: Paris is just I can't She's so funny.
Speaker 6: Parris just wants to get some and she's just like
Speaker 6: down to do whatever and just have a good time.
Speaker 5: And like, just I don't know.
Speaker 6: I appreciate her role right now, Like I think she's
Speaker 6: a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: Her speed dating is more like an interrogation than speed dating.
Speaker 5: Then yeah, that do Wait, so were you.
Speaker 2: All stunned when Doyle comes out of the bedroom in
Speaker 2: the robe or were you like expecting it?
Speaker 5: I loved it. I loved it so much.
Speaker 4: It was all short, little bib was it her?
Speaker 2: It felt like I needed to take an iron to
Speaker 2: Paris's pajama top. It had that like line like when
Speaker 2: you just get it new out of the package, and
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, the fashion was so on point.
Speaker 2: We seed a little.
Speaker 1: The single greatest line so far, I think in this
Speaker 1: entire series came out of Doyle's mouth at the end
Speaker 1: of that scene when he's standing there in the bathrobe
Speaker 1: with Paris Andy and Rory leaves and everybody leaves, and
Speaker 1: he turns to Paris and he says, this bathrobe is
Speaker 1: amazingly comfortable. It's just so good.
Speaker 2: So then okay, So then we're in the cafeteria and
Speaker 2: she's eating the fruit libs and the ice cream and
Speaker 2: they're talking about the froyo social and Logan comes in,
Speaker 2: and this is where we kind of see. We get
Speaker 2: Logan and Rory kind of going at it, but in
Speaker 2: a in a way that you're like, I think they
Speaker 2: love each other.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and he really is like relaxed, and I
Speaker 3: kind of agree.
Speaker 2: It's not that she was wrong. He did embarrass her
Speaker 2: and all that, but it's like relaxed Rory.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, like Danielle said, they bowed at the end,
Speaker 3: like you knew it was a joke.
Speaker 4: It wasn't going to ruin her reputation.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm seeing in Matt. This is why
Speaker 1: I think Matt is such a good actor. I'm beginning
Speaker 1: to see now his relationship with his dad is not great.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing this now. There's this server compensation, correct, There's
Speaker 1: this slickness, there's this Devil may care, there's this just
Speaker 1: this confidence coming off this guy. But I'm now I'm
Speaker 1: seeing the vulnerability. I'm seeing him feeling it, and that
Speaker 1: I think goes back to his relationship with his dad, right,
Speaker 1: because he's because he doesn't know how to carve out
Speaker 1: his own destiny. It's like it's almost sort of preordained,
Speaker 1: it's predestined what he's you know, he's going to take
Speaker 1: over the family newspapers and that's where it is, and
Speaker 1: he probably doesn't want to do it, and you know,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe he's not that serious as student. He's obviously
Speaker 1: very bright, right, but again he's you know, he's he's
Speaker 1: a little bit lost. He's a lot of fun and
Speaker 1: he's just trying to figure it out. So now I'm seeing,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling that he's Okay, there's there's there's more of
Speaker 1: a human being there than.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. Yeah. So I do think the thing that's
Speaker 2: super significant in this episode is we really realize Marty
Speaker 2: likes Rory and started and when Anna goes missing because
Speaker 2: she's not at the Froyo social, she immediately calls him,
Speaker 2: but you remember his face from earlier when she says
Speaker 2: they're just friends, and he's so like, ah, like he's stuck.
Speaker 1: He's stuck in the friend zone. He can't get out.
Speaker 1: But he doesn't understand once you're in, you know you
Speaker 1: got You've got to make your move right away. You
Speaker 1: can't can't, you can't stay in the friend zone long.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, that's he's gonna cry made did he
Speaker 1: really win?
Speaker 3: He's tried to say something and then like she falls asleep,
Speaker 3: or like.
Speaker 1: You've got her awake to walk in, you invite her out,
Speaker 1: you make a gesture.
Speaker 2: You know, you gotta think one of the biggest Marty's
Speaker 2: probably the risk. You say.
Speaker 5: He's the nice guy. He's a nice guy.
Speaker 2: I also think the problem is the way they began
Speaker 2: with him naked, all drunk, Like they began as friend
Speaker 2: zone and it's just really hard to go out of that.
Speaker 2: And you're right, Rory is looking for a logan, somebody
Speaker 2: that's going to give her a kick in the pants,
Speaker 2: whereas Marty they're just going to eat leftovers and like
Speaker 2: study together.
Speaker 6: She's going to be so comfortable with Marty, like she's
Speaker 6: going to have a really easy, steady relationship with Marty.
Speaker 6: There's no thrill with it like that. Sure it doesn't,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 1: Here's the Marty is going to be a great husband,
Speaker 1: he's going to be a great dad.
Speaker 2: He's going to be a good totally.
Speaker 1: He's the guy. He's the long term guy. That's the guy.
Speaker 4: But he's just not the guy in this moment.
Speaker 5: No, right, not in the moment, right, what a bummer.
Speaker 2: I like him so much, glad he called it out
Speaker 2: and said, Logan likes you, and you're in, You've been anointed,
Speaker 2: like you're in their group now, and like, how do
Speaker 2: you not see it? And I think Marty knows she
Speaker 2: likes him? And then Marty doesn't go in the cab.
Speaker 2: He helps her, He goes right to help her find an.
Speaker 6: Oh that was actually a really sad scene. Like he
Speaker 6: literally was like, dude, like this guy likes you.
Speaker 5: You clearly like him too. I'm out, you know, Like
Speaker 5: he like, let's have.
Speaker 1: Fun with this. Let's game theory this out. Ten years
Speaker 1: in the future, Rory and Logan are together, they're married,
Speaker 1: they have a couple of kids. He's Logan's running the
Speaker 1: newspaper empire. His father is semi retired, and Rory and
Speaker 1: Logan are going to the country club and they're worth
Speaker 1: Billy and this and that you see Logan cheating on her.
Speaker 2: Well, we know the movies. So my problem is I
Speaker 2: can't answer that. Danielle, You answer that because I know
Speaker 2: the movies.
Speaker 5: Oh, I would say yes.
Speaker 1: I kind of do too.
Speaker 6: I don't know if that's fair for me to say yes,
Speaker 6: but I'm just saying yes, like if I had to
Speaker 6: pick yes or no.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're speculating, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: What you're doing. I love what you're doing.
Speaker 1: Because I see him and you know, the perfect clothes
Speaker 1: and the car with the driver and.
Speaker 2: Tarn I can't answer because we know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we can't say anything.
Speaker 6: I feel like they're super magnetic right now, like very magnetic,
Speaker 6: like drawn to each other, like everything's so exciting. And
Speaker 6: then at one point that's going to stop.
Speaker 1: And then when that stops, he's going to want a
Speaker 1: new challenge. He's going to want a new challenge to
Speaker 1: make him feel whole.
Speaker 6: Or vice versa her too. She We've seen that with
Speaker 6: Dean and Jess. She's just dropped him off, like sorry,
Speaker 6: done with done with you.
Speaker 4: I will say, I kind.
Speaker 1: Of he did, like see a piece out, Oh, let's
Speaker 1: relate unit must be recycled. Dropping it off. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: just dropping off this Jess.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys agree, but I kind
Speaker 3: of thought that she deserved to be left in the
Speaker 3: cab alone.
Speaker 1: She did a little bit.
Speaker 2: Here's the problem. She doesn't. I don't think she totally
Speaker 2: gets that Logan likes her. I don't. I think that
Speaker 2: she sort of maybe gets it, but I think she
Speaker 2: also thinks they're friends, and even in this episode she
Speaker 2: calls them casual friends. I don't think she was ready
Speaker 2: to realize like how much she wants Logan and to
Speaker 2: be a part of that.
Speaker 4: But I don't think it was about Logan.
Speaker 3: The reason why I think she deserved it is because
Speaker 3: Marty's been in front of her the whole time and
Speaker 3: she's just ignored him. And that's why I think she
Speaker 3: deserved it. And he's like I felt bad for him
Speaker 3: in that moment, like he's tried. He's out here helping
Speaker 3: her with Anna, he's gonna get them a cab and
Speaker 3: then she's like she's just not meeting him halfway and
Speaker 3: so he's like, yeah, walk, And I was like, you
Speaker 3: know what, I agree with you, Marty.
Speaker 5: I would walk to justice for Marty.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Literally, just she hasn't necessarily Rory hasn't necessarily mistreated, so
Speaker 1: he's all but hurt.
Speaker 4: And all but like I think that I don't know.
Speaker 3: I kind of felt for Marty in the sense of
Speaker 3: like if he got in that cab, he would just
Speaker 3: be more upset. And she's going to be talking about
Speaker 3: Logan even though she doesn't realize that he likes him
Speaker 3: in the moment, it's going to hurt Marty's feelings even more.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 3: I agreed with Marty's decision to just leave her in
Speaker 3: the cab to go.
Speaker 1: And was that Marty's first decision to try to take
Speaker 1: Rory's heart away from he's going into Logan's. Do you
Speaker 1: think he needed to have a walk and talk, he
Speaker 1: needed to have a clubhouse meeting with himself on his
Speaker 1: little walk by himself to repot his strategy to try
Speaker 1: to get Rory or try to get her interested in him.
Speaker 2: I don't know, because yeah, he takes himself out of
Speaker 2: the equation before he was really ever in the equation,
Speaker 2: Like he never really told her I like you.
Speaker 1: Till now she has to. Now she's thinking like why
Speaker 1: did he do that? Oh, he likes me, and don't
Speaker 1: you know that he likes you? You know, somebody's gonna
Speaker 1: say Marty acted weird. He just you know, said, well,
Speaker 1: he probably likes you. She doesn't understand the effect she
Speaker 1: has on people. Right on great.
Speaker 2: Point, Scott, and I don't think Rory quite gets that
Speaker 2: these boys really like her. And that's from Dean yes
Speaker 2: to Marty.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say it was like like the very beginning,
Speaker 4: when like Dean was looking at her and she's reading
Speaker 4: a book, she had no clue.
Speaker 2: She's naive when it comes to boys.
Speaker 6: Yeah, she is not intelligent when it comes to to dating. No,
Speaker 6: she's got book smarts, but when it comes to relationships smart, Yeah,
Speaker 6: it's not her forte.
Speaker 1: I think Marty uh maybe declared himself by taking him out.
Speaker 1: I don't know that he was taking himself out of
Speaker 1: the race to get away from the hurt, but if
Speaker 1: maybe he's plotting a new strategy. I'll be interested to
Speaker 1: see these upcoming episodes to see if he makes a bid.
Speaker 2: I think he's not going to be around.
Speaker 4: I think he's taking himself out.
Speaker 2: I don't know if this was his last episode, but
Speaker 2: we're close to it.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 6: It was a very self aware there, you know like it.
Speaker 3: Which is why I give him credit for it, like
Speaker 3: he didn't want to be more upset.
Speaker 4: So he's like, I'm just gonna stop now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess said he took himself out of the game. Yep.
Speaker 1: But so he ends wait a minute, wait a minute.
Speaker 1: The first time she sees Marty, he's drunk naked.
Speaker 2: Remember he's naked.
Speaker 1: And naked, so he so is. So he's that guy
Speaker 1: that drinks so much and he ends up naked asleep
Speaker 1: an veto.
Speaker 5: That was one time. That was right when they got
Speaker 5: to college.
Speaker 6: He has not shown that since he's going to.
Speaker 1: Have a little bit of game if he ended up
Speaker 1: partying to that degree, So where's his game?
Speaker 5: We all had that.
Speaker 1: No, No, guys.
Speaker 6: Freshman year of college, you never had a messy night
Speaker 6: like he had a mess night.
Speaker 1: I mean that was like two nights.
Speaker 2: I also think it's hard to come back from that.
Speaker 2: If that's your first meeting with a guy in college,
Speaker 2: you become really good friends. They admitted they were friends.
Speaker 2: I think it is hard to come back from that
Speaker 2: and suddenly switch that guy to like being your boyfriend,
Speaker 2: the drunk guy that you found on the floor of the.
Speaker 1: Dorm first impression to try to open Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's it's it's rough. I get why Rory never put
Speaker 2: him in that potential category because she's just like, it's
Speaker 2: the naked drunk guy Marty.
Speaker 1: Mm h.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Luke and Loreli because we've got some
Speaker 2: really important stuff and we'll kind of go through it
Speaker 2: all together. So Luke goes over because he's bringing the glasses,
Speaker 2: the famous glasses that I think she's only worn two times.
Speaker 2: But she left him at the hat at Luke's and
Speaker 2: he's like, what is all this crap in the yard
Speaker 2: and thigh masters? And then he loses his belief when
Speaker 2: he sees the boat there. He is not happy and
Speaker 2: he was mad, like I told you and you didn't
Speaker 2: listen to me. It was scary. She had tears in
Speaker 2: her eyes.
Speaker 5: That's when the popcorn came out.
Speaker 7: I was like, whoa, okay, Luke, serve it up, tell
Speaker 7: us what's up.
Speaker 2: It was a little intense. It was scary. She looked,
Speaker 2: she looks sad. She knew she'd let him down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and she tried to do a nice thing.
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, this is the one dilemma I had,
Speaker 6: because she definitely let him down.
Speaker 5: But did she write you know, like.
Speaker 2: I think if it wasn't his dark day, he would
Speaker 2: have seen the gesture more clearly, because she wasn't saying
Speaker 2: you're gonna have this boat. She was saying, I took
Speaker 2: the boat in case you ever realized you want the boat.
Speaker 2: Like she was not overstepping that aggressively, and she bought
Speaker 2: the boat and figures it all out.
Speaker 1: I think, you know what I think it was. I
Speaker 1: think it was a moment of real weakness for Luke,
Speaker 1: and I think it was a moment of real vulnerability.
Speaker 1: And I think it was a moment of real insecurity
Speaker 1: where I think he was venting on her about all
Speaker 1: of the frustration that he felt for those years that
Speaker 1: he watched her date other guys and not acknowledge him.
Speaker 1: I think all that came out in that moment because
Speaker 1: of who she was, not who she is. I am
Speaker 1: as a way to perhaps because if he's not giving
Speaker 1: her the benefit of the doubt for doing an obviously
Speaker 1: very kind, very thoughtful gesture, you know, and it's like
Speaker 1: you forgive a person that you love for doing something
Speaker 1: like that, you don't pop at him. So I think
Speaker 1: he has some pent up anger.
Speaker 2: I don't to disagree with you. But in this case,
Speaker 2: I think there is something to it.
Speaker 1: I think I also think it plays into his insecurity
Speaker 1: that he doesn't he doesn't know for sure that this
Speaker 1: is going to work out, this relationship is going to
Speaker 1: work out, because he knows he's he's maybe a little
Speaker 1: too off center for her, a little quirky and a
Speaker 1: little wacky.
Speaker 2: There's something to what you're saying.
Speaker 1: There's something like the wheels are coming off in a
Speaker 1: weird way here. He's getting triggered in a way and
Speaker 1: he's being very militant about the whole thing, and I
Speaker 1: just think it's just reeking of insecurity.
Speaker 2: He's also super unhinged because he's yelling at the lady
Speaker 2: going to the nursing home. Also, I'm asking myself a question.
Speaker 2: I feel like, she said she bought the boat, but
Speaker 2: why does she buy a boat that wasn't Missus Thompson's
Speaker 2: to sell? So I might have I'm throwing a flag
Speaker 2: on that that I might have messed that up. So
Speaker 2: maybe she just paid Pa.
Speaker 4: I was thinking, like paid her out for the oh
Speaker 4: for the renter to get here. Yeah, that's what I
Speaker 4: was thinking, Scott.
Speaker 2: I think there's something to what you're saying, it's almost
Speaker 2: like on the dark day, all of Luke's stuff that
Speaker 2: he pushes down comes flying out.
Speaker 1: But for him to interpret that as her not respecting
Speaker 1: his dark day and what he's going through and what
Speaker 1: he went through with his dad, because there's no possible
Speaker 1: way she could know what he went through because he
Speaker 1: didn't tell her. He didn't give her any real detail.
Speaker 1: It just gave her the sort of you know, the
Speaker 1: cliff note version. It's just you know, it's just And
Speaker 1: why is he keeping it from her? Why won't he
Speaker 1: tell her?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 1: Because he doesn't like to be vulnerable.
Speaker 2: He hates being vulnerable.
Speaker 1: I just I just think that he doesn't. I think
Speaker 1: that showed he doesn't think that that relationship is going
Speaker 1: to make it maybe and he's scared, and it's scared
Speaker 1: security right right, right, She's going to find somebody better.
Speaker 1: She's going to find somebody better, and she's going to
Speaker 1: find somebody that doesn't have a dark day. You know, there's.
Speaker 2: Something to what you're saying. I can't totally figure it out,
Speaker 2: but I think you're right, Like his outburst is more
Speaker 2: than it was deserved for her getting doing something nice
Speaker 2: for him, And even if you're mad, like you would say, like, well,
Speaker 2: this was really nice of you, but I don't know
Speaker 2: what I want to do with this boat, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean?
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, worse giving her the benefit of doubt. She's
Speaker 1: being they're having a great relationship.
Speaker 2: Well, and then I what I assume happens is he
Speaker 2: goes off wherever he goes. She goes to Miss Patty's
Speaker 2: for the fortieth Show Business Anniversary and she sees him
Speaker 2: out the window and she comes out, and that was
Speaker 2: a very sweet scene. That was That scene made me go,
Speaker 2: all these two are together, mm hmm. So whatever junk
Speaker 2: he had, he obviously went took a deep breath, and
Speaker 2: even he even wasn't ready to come back to Miss Patty's,
Speaker 2: like he didn't want to go to the party, but
Speaker 2: he wanted her to know, like sorry about my junk,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah he's missing his dad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so so good. Also just sighed out
Speaker 2: the fact that Kirk's reading Yoga for Dummies just killed me.
Speaker 2: But but my favorite scene, I have to tell you,
Speaker 2: my favorite scene of this whole episode is Richard just
Speaker 2: owning Logan with.
Speaker 4: I mean, that was the best scene.
Speaker 2: That was epic and shows me that Rory Rory likes logan.
Speaker 2: She's in, She's.
Speaker 1: In, Okay, let me okay, then go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 5: Danielle, I was gonna say.
Speaker 6: And also that her and Richard are tight.
Speaker 5: You know, like precious, precious, you know, like they are,
Speaker 5: they are in cahoots and just you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these two are doing this dance and now she
Speaker 2: has leveled up to his level, which no girl has
Speaker 2: ever done. Yea, oh it is on.
Speaker 6: And she brought in She brought in the head Gilmore,
Speaker 6: you know, like that's not just like oh the buddy,
Speaker 6: and you.
Speaker 2: Know she studied coming in the prank with me your
Speaker 2: cards and I'll raise you to me she went. It
Speaker 2: was so good, and it's like, oh, he is so
Speaker 2: going to be into her, and the friends are going
Speaker 2: to be like respect miss Gilmour, do you know what
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, oh my.
Speaker 5: God, I think they're all going to be scared of her.
Speaker 2: And Richard.
Speaker 1: Now she's got game.
Speaker 2: That's probably the best Rory Richards scene in a while.
Speaker 2: I mean, they bond, but that was epic, and you
Speaker 2: know he loved it, you know, granddaughter at his school
Speaker 2: playing a prank on his friend's son, like it is
Speaker 2: just so good, so good.
Speaker 3: Well, I was shocked that Logan actually like believe the
Speaker 3: whole thing beginning to end.
Speaker 1: Richard, but he put on quite a performance. It was
Speaker 1: a tad unbelievable, Like.
Speaker 2: Right, you're engaged now, yeah, but it's just.
Speaker 6: Like is rich with that being said, like if they're
Speaker 6: if their parents are doing parties where they find a suitor,
Speaker 6: like maybe it's not too far fett.
Speaker 1: All right, so let's uh, let's rate this. Uh bad boy?
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, can I give I don't want someone to
Speaker 2: steal mine ten butt faces because she calls him the
Speaker 2: butt face?
Speaker 1: You give him ten butt faces, all right? Tara?
Speaker 3: Oh, oh my gosh, what I'm like thinking of what
Speaker 3: items were in this?
Speaker 1: Do you think, Danielle?
Speaker 5: Okay, nine point ninety five.
Speaker 6: Robes, super comfortable robes, super comfortable robes, right, Tara, I.
Speaker 3: Will give it, but this is very random. The whistle
Speaker 3: that when he was I was wearing it.
Speaker 1: How many whistles, how many whistles?
Speaker 4: I will give it nine point eight?
Speaker 2: Oh see, every loves it.
Speaker 1: I can't want to give it. I'm going to give
Speaker 1: it ten U shocked Logan expressions as Richard.
Speaker 2: Was, I do have a couple of favorite lines that
Speaker 2: we didn't do, which she says when they say Gutenberg
Speaker 2: and she goes, Steve.
Speaker 1: Not not my favorite line?
Speaker 2: Well, oh my god, do you not like Steve?
Speaker 1: I don't like lines like that. I I don't think
Speaker 1: that stuff is funny. That's just I do. It's just
Speaker 1: such low hanging fruit. It's like, come on, oh my.
Speaker 2: God, I love every mention of froyo. Literally I couldn't
Speaker 2: get enough of froyo.
Speaker 4: And then I would just say.
Speaker 2: Richard's entire speech was just yeah, and this all right,
Speaker 2: the hands on the nose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, good, let's uh, let's wrap.
Speaker 2: It up before we go. Truly. I know you don't
Speaker 2: love when we call this out, but like truly amazing,
Speaker 2: really a good performance. That episode was you and it
Speaker 2: was it was Kina gnarly and it was really good.
Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate it all right, So that's gonna wrap
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