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Speaker 2: I am all in with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast. Here

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Speaker 1: we are with my intrepid crew, Terra Sude, Daniel Romo,

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Speaker 1: Amy Sugarman the season five episode ten, but not as

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Speaker 1: cute as Poushkin Danielle. Hello, everybody, how are you? We love?

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Speaker 3: We love this episode, dem oh loved.

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Speaker 2: It is so good and bravo to you. It's a

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Speaker 2: big Luke episode. It's a big Luke episode with very

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Speaker 2: very emotional scenes.

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Speaker 1: If you want to see Luke Dane's unloading on an

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Speaker 1: elderly woman in a driveway, this is your episode. This

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Speaker 1: is this is the one.

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Speaker 2: This is You did okay though, because you were an ass,

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Speaker 2: But I thoroughly enjoyed it. Am that poor woman.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt bad for her, I really did. But

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Speaker 1: she hung in there like a champ, didn't she. She

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Speaker 1: took all those shots and she.

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Speaker 2: Was she really wasn't even frazzled. She wasn't even frazzled.

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Speaker 2: She's like, should we sit down? You're losing your mind anyway.

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Speaker 1: Remember I'm going to be appearing at Louisville Popcorn Louisville, Kentucky,

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Speaker 1: June sixteenth through eighteen.

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Speaker 2: I saw that on your Instagram, and.

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Speaker 1: There's a new one. I'm gonna be in South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna Charleston, South Carolina. I saw September the sixteenth,

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Speaker 1: one day only with Chad, Michael Murray and Matt Sucre.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so that's like a fab five event dot com.

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Speaker 1: So that's one day only September sixteenth, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: par already down in South Carolina, beautiful Charleston.

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Speaker 2: Can you maybe bring your audio recorder and just get

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Speaker 2: us a little something something well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, look, yes, we're gonna have to.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have to. We're gonna have to record that panel.

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Speaker 2: That one is amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna be a big time. So maybe it's

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Speaker 1: another trip for Tara down Ohlson.

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Speaker 4: Last year you were Charleston. Same as last year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, same promoters, with different venue I think. And plus

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Speaker 1: there's a Chad piece and a Matte piece. Fin there

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Speaker 1: you go. All right, everybody, anyway, let's synopsize and get

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Speaker 1: into it. Danielle take it away.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 6: This is season five, episode ten, but not as cute

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Speaker 6: as Pushkin Air Date November thirtieth, two thousand and four,

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Speaker 6: Rory is asked to host a chiltern student for a

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Speaker 6: few days at Yale, but the student is more interested

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Speaker 6: in her freedoms than the responsibilities that go with them.

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Speaker 5: Lorelei learns about.

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Speaker 6: Luke's Dark Day, which happens to fall on the same

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Speaker 6: day as Miss Patty's fortieth anniversary party. Paris tried speed

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Speaker 6: dating and finds herself paired with Doyle. Logan embarrasses Rory,

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Speaker 6: prompting her and Richard to pull a little prink of

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Speaker 6: their own.

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Speaker 2: So fricking good. This was so good. I can't wait

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Speaker 2: to talk about Logan, but first for Scott and Danielle,

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Speaker 2: because I think we touched on it maybe in a

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Speaker 2: previous podcast. Did you see Paris and Doyle coming?

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Speaker 1: I did not. I did not, but I thought it's

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Speaker 1: one of the more satisfying couplings and Gilmore girls thus far.

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Speaker 1: Really funny. One of the great lines of all time

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Speaker 1: came out of it. End this episode, and I'll get

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Speaker 1: into that later, but I loved it. I think it's

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Speaker 1: their share a brain, They're meant for each other. It's perfect.

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Speaker 5: I agree.

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Speaker 6: I weirdly thought Doyle was gonna like Rory. But I'm

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Speaker 6: pleasantly surprised that it's a match with Paris, and it

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Speaker 6: makes me really happy.

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Speaker 2: They are very like an instant match.

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Speaker 5: They could they are each other.

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Speaker 1: That could have been an interesting spinoff show.

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Speaker 2: Actually, Scott, that is really I've never thought of that,

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Speaker 2: and I actually I could totally enjoy that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I you know, I think they were. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that they ever considered any spin offs because

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Speaker 1: But I remember having this conversation in the executive dining

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Speaker 2: Wonderful, fancy fancy dining room. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know, the explanation that you would hear over and

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Speaker 1: The audience would miss the characters that weren't there, right right,

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Speaker 1: they would be pining from now. It worked. I think

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those interesting examples because some of it, like the Jeffersons,

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Speaker 2: You know, you don't miss him so much, right, same

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Speaker 2: thing like Happy Days spun off Mork and Mindy, but

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Speaker 1: And you have a Robin Williams totally just like kinda

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Speaker 2: It's a good point though, because Joni Loves Chauci didn't work,

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Speaker 1: Doesn't necessarily have to be Paris and Doyle. It could

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Speaker 2: I can't wait for you to watch butnheads, then you're gonna.

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Speaker 1: Like one Justice I've never seen it.

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Speaker 2: No, I can't wait till you watch it because it

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Speaker 1: Sorry, when am I watching this doing more homework? I

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Speaker 2: When we finish Gilmour Girls, we'll get into So in

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Speaker 2: the beginning of this episode, I actually watched it three

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Speaker 2: So Laurelize walking and I realized later it's the bag

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Speaker 6: it's a sickness. Everyone thinks it started with Bradshaw, but

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Speaker 2: Oh, because she's saying, now I get it. Oh that

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Speaker 1: No, anyone quite exciting. We must have opening up a

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Speaker 2: And then we learn of Miss Patty's fortieth anniversary in

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Speaker 1: You starting interrupt, But I think the purpose of that

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Speaker 2: Of course a percent.

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Speaker 2: The one thing I do like about Gilmore Girls is

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Speaker 4: At the first thing is a drink.

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Speaker 2: Like It's definitely a part of the show.

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Speaker 5: M my type of show Amy.

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Speaker 1: Where are you are you? Are you at a recording studio?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Does it look like I am Are you at a

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Speaker 2: I'm in my loft in my house in Tahoe.

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Speaker 2: Like it's my mini bar, it's just my minivar. I'm

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Speaker 2: So we then switch over and we see Paris and

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Speaker 2: the Life Coach has returned. Terrence, the Life Coach is back,

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Speaker 2: and I think that's when. Yeah, so this is when

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Speaker 2: what did you all think?

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Speaker 1: It's a nice surprise to inject a guest star in

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Speaker 1: I mean, she just had to talk talk talk talk talk.

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Speaker 2: A lot of boring Yale history that I didn't realize

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Speaker 1: And the fact that she knew all that history was

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Speaker 6: I tried thinking about like the college I went too.

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Speaker 2: I actually do know a few facts. Do you guys

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Speaker 2: want me to tell you one weird fact about UC Berkeley? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: been good if I was hosting Anna Fairchild. The Architecture building,

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Speaker 2: So because they're going into that building every day, so

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Speaker 2: they wanted it to be like plane and boring. It

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Speaker 1: Could be a fun fact from my college. Yeah, can

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Speaker 1: you think I just remember well, I went to Rutgers

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have excited when when Headmaster Charleston says that

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Speaker 1: I think they have a very healthy physical life. I

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Speaker 6: I kind of thought of it like a little bit

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Speaker 6: Right, and then at the end it kind of made

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's yeah, there's a there's a volcano under there, right.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why I think it's affecting you

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Speaker 1: And I think that's that's the longing, and that's the

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the best performances are you draw from

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Speaker 1: it's not like there's a history of the Guilford Girls

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Speaker 6: today being like.

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00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, it's a good but tough episode to watch.

439
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like back in Star's Hollow you felt that emotion,

440
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 3: but then at Yale you kind of felt that lightness

441
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 3: and airiness, and I know.

442
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 2: We're we're not quite there, but for me, I'm sure

443
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 2: they thought of that call and Finn Logan bit and

444
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 2: they put it in the perfect episode because it was

445
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 2: so epic, like okay, we'll get to it. So so

446
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 2: basically we've got her showing this an a fair job

447
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 2: all around with the most boring Yeale speeches and you

448
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 2: know she's she's going all over and Logan of course

449
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 2: shows up perfectly right at the right time at the library,

450
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 2: so we oh, Logan, you know, here he is. And

451
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 2: Anna of course is kind of like hard eyes for

452
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 2: him and all the boys. So I just I don't know.

453
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 2: To me, the whole thing is just perfectly done.

454
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 3: I love that she just wants nothing to do with

455
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 3: them right now at the stage.

456
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 2: Right which I think is why he's getting so into her.

457
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 4: Totally.

458
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 2: It's so good Okay, well, so I digress. So the

459
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 2: other things happening is it Kirk's got his bathtub adhesives,

460
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 2: and everyone knows about the Dark Day, but no one

461
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 2: knows why the Dark Day exists.

462
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 6: Before we move on from that, like that is a

463
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 6: big thing to actually understand that this whole town knows

464
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 6: that Luke has his Dark Day, but nobody knows until.

465
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 5: He tells Larela. I like, Loreli is.

466
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 6: Now the only person that holds this information. I think

467
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 6: that just obviously shows the level they're at in their relationship.

468
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 2: Totally. So it's like he goes and yells at that

469
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 2: poor woman in the driveway, and this is where Lorelai

470
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 2: really kind of steps in. But Scott, when you're watching that,

471
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 2: what were you?

472
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: I liked it. I enjoyed watching it. I I you know,

473
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: I'm so you know, I'm so far removed from the

474
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: character at this point. I mean, in terms of years,

475
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 1: it's been a couple of decades, right plus plus decade

476
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: to two and a half decades that I can watch

477
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 1: it objectively almost Yeah, And I thought, yeah, I like that.

478
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: I enjoyed those I thought they were funny. I thought

479
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: they were funny. I thought they were. They were big,

480
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:52,959
Speaker 1: you know, big sweeping gesticulations and body movements, and it

481
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: was kind of funny, funny, and.

482
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 2: You're not mad at him because you don't feel like

483
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 2: he's abusing her. You feel like, oh God, this guy

484
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 2: is unhinged and having a meltdown, and everyone just wants

485
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 2: to like help him, even missus Thompson, Like she's not mad,

486
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 2: she's just like this poor guy, Like I got to

487
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 2: move into a nursing home, dude.

488
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 3: The one thing, the one thing that I found interesting though,

489
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 3: did anyone else think, like, how did Laura I never

490
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 3: know about his dark Day?

491
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, how did she never know? In the entire

492
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 2: town knows And they've been even asked Rory to look

493
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 2: at her journal.

494
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's because they weren't.

495
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 4: They weren't as involved, they.

496
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: Weren't as involved. And it's really kind of for boting

497
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: that you're going to try to get underneath Luke's shell

498
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: to that degree to even broach that topic. That's not

499
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: going to happen.

500
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 3: But everyone else in the everyone else in the town

501
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 3: knew about it, Like they didn't know what it's.

502
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: About, dark Day, but they didn't know the reason.

503
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 4: Correct?

504
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: Correct?

505
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: Carla I didn't even know the Dark Day existed. And

506
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 2: you would at least if she had to go to

507
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 2: Al's Pancake World every year on November thirtieth, she would

508
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: remember that.

509
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: Yeah that you know what you're right?

510
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, like that is like it wasn't it wasn't more

511
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 4: of what it was.

512
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 3: It was that it was a dark day, like, and

513
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 3: I would understand if she forgot the date, like, oh yeah,

514
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 3: I forgot today is the day, But to not know

515
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 3: that it exists, I was like, that doesn't feel right,

516
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 3: Like it just feels off.

517
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: Well, you know, she's busy. Look, single moms are busy.

518
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: You know. It's like and she's guys and she's raising

519
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: her daughter, she's dealing with her parents, she's stealing.

520
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 3: And she cares for she cares for Luke. So that's

521
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 3: another reason why I'm like, how would she never know?

522
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: Right? Right?

523
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good that's a good catch. That's a

524
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: good catch.

525
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: It's a little bit of a flaw, but the whole

526
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: episode wouldn't have been as good as she knew totally.

527
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a very crack staffy. Beside, we have some openings,

528
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: like to join ther crackstaff. Yeah, I don't know if

529
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: they're coming back from Tahiti, and I think it's.

530
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 5: I think it's sweet.

531
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 2: First of all, she calls him hun, she calms him down,

532
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: She convinces him to get a ride back to the diner.

533
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: He starts to sort of tell her that about you know,

534
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: the boat, and you know what.

535
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about when when I'll give you a ride

536
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: back to the diner because the proximity of where they

537
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: were thirty steps.

538
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: I also think there was a great kiss my grits

539
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: from Flow that was a funny pop culture which I'm

540
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: sure we'll talk about. But anyway, so he talks about

541
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 2: his dad getting sick and that this boat has been there,

542
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: you know, he's been paying rent for all these years

543
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: and doesn't want to deal with it. He doesn't want

544
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 2: to deal with it. It makes him too sad.

545
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: I think, I think it must have been a really

546
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: horrible illness and a protracted, horrible, painful ye maybe year,

547
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: maybe two years of just horrible horribles.

548
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: Like cancer or something like something not good happens. Yes,

549
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: so yeah, so then we we we really have like

550
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: a juxtaposition, like we talked about. We go to the

551
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: pub and they're getting the cappuccinos and Anna suddenly has

552
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 2: Mark and Matthew talking to her, and I love when

553
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: Rory's like bud bite, like just dealing with all that.

554
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 2: So I just thought, Okay, this is all good. You know,

555
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: this is a funny other side to what's happening in

556
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 2: Stars follow up.

557
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yale has really developed into a whole other side

558
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: of the show that's very satisfying.

559
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 5: It finally feels like college. Does that makes sense?

560
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 3: It does, yes, But I was thinking it feels like

561
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: college because she's actually doing college y things now, yes,

562
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 3: Like she's on the school paper and she's hanging out

563
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 3: with anyone else but Paris, you.

564
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: Know right now.

565
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 6: But also Paris too, you know, she's not dating Asher anymore.

566
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 6: Like she's actually like, ugh, I got to find a

567
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 6: date now, you know, and doing the speed dating and

568
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 6: all that kind of stuff.

569
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: Characters from Paris, right, Yeah, she's not playing anything with

570
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: the old people.

571
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: Paris gets so fancy and goes out at eleven o'clock

572
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: at night, and Anna's just loving every second of it, Like,

573
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: oh my god. It's almost like we needed Anna to

574
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: realize like what college should be, because it really becomes

575
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: collegey in this episode. With the pub and the you know,

576
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: going out late and then the speed dating, although that

577
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: was random. I don't know that they would have.

578
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: A meet me at the wrath Scaler the best.

579
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: So Anna is falling asleep in class and it was

580
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: Professor Bell, but we knew remember he was he also

581
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: had a different role remember the actor yeh wasn't he?

582
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: I think he was at Chilton.

583
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 6: He was like a teacher or something like that, right.

584
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: So he and he told us that he comes back

585
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: and doesn't and I love that Anna's falling asleep and

586
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden incomes calling and Logan and you.

587
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 4: I was just like I forgot. I was like, what

588
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 4: is happening?

589
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 7: I loved this so much, like, oh my god, I

590
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 7: loved it, but I also hated how Rory reacted to it.

591
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 6: I'm like, can you be more fun? Like everyone in

592
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 6: this class knows that this is a joke, Like.

593
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 3: Right off the bat, you're like, wait what And then

594
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 3: as it when they bowed.

595
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 5: At the end, Yeah, he straight up.

596
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: Bowed like it was so funny.

597
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 6: But once the police officer came in, You're like, oh,

598
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 6: you know this.

599
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 5: Is not real.

600
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: You know it wasn't real. When they said give them

601
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 2: back their balls.

602
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 4: Oh my god, the best line, damn it, Gilmour.

603
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 2: Theos is clapping. I literally was like that was hysterical.

604
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 6: Hysterical and like something definitely like sorry, go ahead, no

605
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 6: you go. I was gonna say, it's like definitely something

606
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 6: that like fried kids do you know, they're just like

607
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 6: you do shit all the time like that.

608
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: There's the line where when Rory and Logan kind of

609
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: go at it where Logan says like, this is college

610
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: and I'm so glad he did that because Rory is

611
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: going way too much just in the studies direction and

612
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: not in the like experiencing college life, and Logan is

613
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: finally getting her to do that.

614
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 6: Like he even said, you know, like you'll have the

615
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 6: class next week, like you know, like stop, like give

616
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 6: yourself a break, like laugh a little, live a little,

617
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 6: have some fun.

618
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 2: I know people hate Logan, but for me, Logan is

619
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: exactly what she needs. He's not gonna derail her. She's

620
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 2: still gonna do well in school, like she's still gonna

621
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: be like a good girl ish, but she needs some fun.

622
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I agree.

623
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 2: Even Paris is like having Ash and now Doyle. It's

624
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: like Paris is like in it. She's just peculiar. It's

625
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 2: like Rory live a little.

626
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: It's you know, the detail when when the Finn character

627
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: came in dressed as an English bobby, I mean with

628
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: the whistle. It was so perfect. It was like it

629
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: was so great.

630
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 3: I think I think, like you said, Amy, I think

631
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 3: she needed Anna to realize like college is fun and

632
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 3: it can't totally and it's not all schoolwork.

633
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: She's being so Rory, but Anna is seeing it with

634
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 2: the sort of like you can eat when you want,

635
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 2: you can have five scoops of ice cream, like by

636
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 2: the way sidebar when they say fro yo social I died,

637
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 2: like it was just so good. But we'll talk about that.

638
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 2: But anyway, it's like, yeah, she almost needed to get

639
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: a little kick in the pants from Anna.

640
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, to live a little.

641
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: So okay, I'm loving all of it, but we'll kind

642
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 2: of rehash it. So then we go back and we

643
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: see all this junk. But I have to shout out

644
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 2: again Melissa McCarthy looks amazing and green. But Loreli in

645
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: the red vest with the turquoise under. Oh, I literally

646
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: wrote down, wear a red vest with turquoise under It

647
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: was so good, so Anyway, this is where we realize

648
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: all the junk is there and that lare Lies got

649
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: the boat. That kind of is what it is. Then

650
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 2: we go back to the speed dating. So what did

651
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 2: you guys think of the speed dating?

652
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 4: Paris is just I can't She's so funny.

653
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 6: Parris just wants to get some and she's just like

654
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 6: down to do whatever and just have a good time.

655
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 5: And like, just I don't know.

656
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 6: I appreciate her role right now, Like I think she's

657
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 6: a lot of fun.

658
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 3: Her speed dating is more like an interrogation than speed dating.

659
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 5: Then yeah, that do Wait, so were you.

660
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 2: All stunned when Doyle comes out of the bedroom in

661
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: the robe or were you like expecting it?

662
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 5: I loved it. I loved it so much.

663
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 4: It was all short, little bib was it her?

664
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 2: It felt like I needed to take an iron to

665
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: Paris's pajama top. It had that like line like when

666
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 2: you just get it new out of the package, and

667
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, the fashion was so on point.

668
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: We seed a little.

669
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: The single greatest line so far, I think in this

670
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: entire series came out of Doyle's mouth at the end

671
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: of that scene when he's standing there in the bathrobe

672
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: with Paris Andy and Rory leaves and everybody leaves, and

673
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: he turns to Paris and he says, this bathrobe is

674
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: amazingly comfortable. It's just so good.

675
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: So then okay, So then we're in the cafeteria and

676
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 2: she's eating the fruit libs and the ice cream and

677
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: they're talking about the froyo social and Logan comes in,

678
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 2: and this is where we kind of see. We get

679
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 2: Logan and Rory kind of going at it, but in

680
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: a in a way that you're like, I think they

681
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 2: love each other.

682
00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and he really is like relaxed, and I

683
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 3: kind of agree.

684
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 2: It's not that she was wrong. He did embarrass her

685
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: and all that, but it's like relaxed Rory.

686
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, like Danielle said, they bowed at the end,

687
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 3: like you knew it was a joke.

688
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 4: It wasn't going to ruin her reputation.

689
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm seeing in Matt. This is why

690
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: I think Matt is such a good actor. I'm beginning

691
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: to see now his relationship with his dad is not great.

692
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: I'm seeing this now. There's this server compensation, correct, There's

693
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: this slickness, there's this Devil may care, there's this just

694
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: this confidence coming off this guy. But I'm now I'm

695
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: seeing the vulnerability. I'm seeing him feeling it, and that

696
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: I think goes back to his relationship with his dad, right,

697
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: because he's because he doesn't know how to carve out

698
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,959
Speaker 1: his own destiny. It's like it's almost sort of preordained,

699
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: it's predestined what he's you know, he's going to take

700
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: over the family newspapers and that's where it is, and

701
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: he probably doesn't want to do it, and you know,

702
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 1: maybe maybe he's not that serious as student. He's obviously

703
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: very bright, right, but again he's you know, he's he's

704
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: a little bit lost. He's a lot of fun and

705
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: he's just trying to figure it out. So now I'm seeing,

706
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: I'm feeling that he's Okay, there's there's there's more of

707
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 1: a human being there than.

708
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. Yeah. So I do think the thing that's

709
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: super significant in this episode is we really realize Marty

710
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 2: likes Rory and started and when Anna goes missing because

711
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: she's not at the Froyo social, she immediately calls him,

712
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 2: but you remember his face from earlier when she says

713
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 2: they're just friends, and he's so like, ah, like he's stuck.

714
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: He's stuck in the friend zone. He can't get out.

715
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: But he doesn't understand once you're in, you know you

716
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: got You've got to make your move right away. You

717
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: can't can't, you can't stay in the friend zone long.

718
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: It's like, no, that's he's gonna cry made did he

719
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: really win?

720
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 3: He's tried to say something and then like she falls asleep,

721
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 3: or like.

722
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: You've got her awake to walk in, you invite her out,

723
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: you make a gesture.

724
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 2: You know, you gotta think one of the biggest Marty's

725
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: probably the risk. You say.

726
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 5: He's the nice guy. He's a nice guy.

727
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 2: I also think the problem is the way they began

728
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: with him naked, all drunk, Like they began as friend

729
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: zone and it's just really hard to go out of that.

730
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: And you're right, Rory is looking for a logan, somebody

731
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 2: that's going to give her a kick in the pants,

732
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 2: whereas Marty they're just going to eat leftovers and like

733
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: study together.

734
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 6: She's going to be so comfortable with Marty, like she's

735
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 6: going to have a really easy, steady relationship with Marty.

736
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 6: There's no thrill with it like that. Sure it doesn't,

737
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 6: you know.

738
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 1: Here's the Marty is going to be a great husband,

739
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: he's going to be a great dad.

740
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 2: He's going to be a good totally.

741
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: He's the guy. He's the long term guy. That's the guy.

742
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 4: But he's just not the guy in this moment.

743
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 5: No, right, not in the moment, right, what a bummer.

744
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,959
Speaker 2: I like him so much, glad he called it out

745
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 2: and said, Logan likes you, and you're in, You've been anointed,

746
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 2: like you're in their group now, and like, how do

747
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: you not see it? And I think Marty knows she

748
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 2: likes him? And then Marty doesn't go in the cab.

749
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 2: He helps her, He goes right to help her find an.

750
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 6: Oh that was actually a really sad scene. Like he

751
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 6: literally was like, dude, like this guy likes you.

752
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 5: You clearly like him too. I'm out, you know, Like

753
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 5: he like, let's have.

754
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: Fun with this. Let's game theory this out. Ten years

755
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: in the future, Rory and Logan are together, they're married,

756
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: they have a couple of kids. He's Logan's running the

757
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: newspaper empire. His father is semi retired, and Rory and

758
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: Logan are going to the country club and they're worth

759
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: Billy and this and that you see Logan cheating on her.

760
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: Well, we know the movies. So my problem is I

761
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 2: can't answer that. Danielle, You answer that because I know

762
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: the movies.

763
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 5: Oh, I would say yes.

764
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 1: I kind of do too.

765
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 6: I don't know if that's fair for me to say yes,

766
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 6: but I'm just saying yes, like if I had to

767
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 6: pick yes or no.

768
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: Okay, we're speculating, yeah, yeah, exactly.

769
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: What you're doing. I love what you're doing.

770
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: Because I see him and you know, the perfect clothes

771
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: and the car with the driver and.

772
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: Tarn I can't answer because we know.

773
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, we can't say anything.

774
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 6: I feel like they're super magnetic right now, like very magnetic,

775
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 6: like drawn to each other, like everything's so exciting. And

776
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 6: then at one point that's going to stop.

777
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: And then when that stops, he's going to want a

778
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: new challenge. He's going to want a new challenge to

779
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: make him feel whole.

780
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 6: Or vice versa her too. She We've seen that with

781
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 6: Dean and Jess. She's just dropped him off, like sorry,

782
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 6: done with done with you.

783
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 4: I will say, I kind.

784
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: Of he did, like see a piece out, Oh, let's

785
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: relate unit must be recycled. Dropping it off. Well, I'm

786
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 1: just dropping off this Jess.

787
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys agree, but I kind

788
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 3: of thought that she deserved to be left in the

789
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 3: cab alone.

790
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: She did a little bit.

791
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: Here's the problem. She doesn't. I don't think she totally

792
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: gets that Logan likes her. I don't. I think that

793
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 2: she sort of maybe gets it, but I think she

794
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: also thinks they're friends, and even in this episode she

795
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 2: calls them casual friends. I don't think she was ready

796
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: to realize like how much she wants Logan and to

797
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 2: be a part of that.

798
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 4: But I don't think it was about Logan.

799
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 3: The reason why I think she deserved it is because

800
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 3: Marty's been in front of her the whole time and

801
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 3: she's just ignored him. And that's why I think she

802
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 3: deserved it. And he's like I felt bad for him

803
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 3: in that moment, like he's tried. He's out here helping

804
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 3: her with Anna, he's gonna get them a cab and

805
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 3: then she's like she's just not meeting him halfway and

806
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 3: so he's like, yeah, walk, And I was like, you

807
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 3: know what, I agree with you, Marty.

808
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 5: I would walk to justice for Marty.

809
00:42:58,680 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

810
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: Literally, just she hasn't necessarily Rory hasn't necessarily mistreated, so

811
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: he's all but hurt.

812
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 4: And all but like I think that I don't know.

813
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 3: I kind of felt for Marty in the sense of

814
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 3: like if he got in that cab, he would just

815
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 3: be more upset. And she's going to be talking about

816
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 3: Logan even though she doesn't realize that he likes him

817
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 3: in the moment, it's going to hurt Marty's feelings even more.

818
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: So.

819
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 3: I agreed with Marty's decision to just leave her in

820
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 3: the cab to go.

821
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 1: And was that Marty's first decision to try to take

822
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: Rory's heart away from he's going into Logan's. Do you

823
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: think he needed to have a walk and talk, he

824
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: needed to have a clubhouse meeting with himself on his

825
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: little walk by himself to repot his strategy to try

826
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 1: to get Rory or try to get her interested in him.

827
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, because yeah, he takes himself out of

828
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 2: the equation before he was really ever in the equation,

829
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 2: Like he never really told her I like you.

830
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 1: Till now she has to. Now she's thinking like why

831
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: did he do that? Oh, he likes me, and don't

832
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: you know that he likes you? You know, somebody's gonna

833
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: say Marty acted weird. He just you know, said, well,

834
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: he probably likes you. She doesn't understand the effect she

835
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: has on people. Right on great.

836
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: Point, Scott, and I don't think Rory quite gets that

837
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: these boys really like her. And that's from Dean yes

838
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 2: to Marty.

839
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 4: I was gonna say it was like like the very beginning,

840
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 4: when like Dean was looking at her and she's reading

841
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 4: a book, she had no clue.

842
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: She's naive when it comes to boys.

843
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, she is not intelligent when it comes to to dating. No,

844
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 6: she's got book smarts, but when it comes to relationships smart, Yeah,

845
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 6: it's not her forte.

846
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: I think Marty uh maybe declared himself by taking him out.

847
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: I don't know that he was taking himself out of

848
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: the race to get away from the hurt, but if

849
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: maybe he's plotting a new strategy. I'll be interested to

850
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: see these upcoming episodes to see if he makes a bid.

851
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 2: I think he's not going to be around.

852
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 4: I think he's taking himself out.

853
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if this was his last episode, but

854
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: we're close to it.

855
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: Oh.

856
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 6: It was a very self aware there, you know like it.

857
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 3: Which is why I give him credit for it, like

858
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 3: he didn't want to be more upset.

859
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 4: So he's like, I'm just gonna stop now.

860
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess said he took himself out of the game. Yep.

861
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: But so he ends wait a minute, wait a minute.

862
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: The first time she sees Marty, he's drunk naked.

863
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: Remember he's naked.

864
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: And naked, so he so is. So he's that guy

865
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: that drinks so much and he ends up naked asleep

866
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: an veto.

867
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 5: That was one time. That was right when they got

868
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 5: to college.

869
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 6: He has not shown that since he's going to.

870
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: Have a little bit of game if he ended up

871
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 1: partying to that degree, So where's his game?

872
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 5: We all had that.

873
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 1: No, No, guys.

874
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 6: Freshman year of college, you never had a messy night

875
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 6: like he had a mess night.

876
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: I mean that was like two nights.

877
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: I also think it's hard to come back from that.

878
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 2: If that's your first meeting with a guy in college,

879
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: you become really good friends. They admitted they were friends.

880
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: I think it is hard to come back from that

881
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: and suddenly switch that guy to like being your boyfriend,

882
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 2: the drunk guy that you found on the floor of the.

883
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: Dorm first impression to try to open Yeah.

884
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: That's it's it's rough. I get why Rory never put

885
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 2: him in that potential category because she's just like, it's

886
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: the naked drunk guy Marty.

887
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: Mm h.

888
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Luke and Loreli because we've got some

889
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 2: really important stuff and we'll kind of go through it

890
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: all together. So Luke goes over because he's bringing the glasses,

891
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 2: the famous glasses that I think she's only worn two times.

892
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: But she left him at the hat at Luke's and

893
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 2: he's like, what is all this crap in the yard

894
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 2: and thigh masters? And then he loses his belief when

895
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 2: he sees the boat there. He is not happy and

896
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 2: he was mad, like I told you and you didn't

897
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: listen to me. It was scary. She had tears in

898
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 2: her eyes.

899
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 5: That's when the popcorn came out.

900
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 7: I was like, whoa, okay, Luke, serve it up, tell

901
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 7: us what's up.

902
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 2: It was a little intense. It was scary. She looked,

903
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 2: she looks sad. She knew she'd let him down.

904
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and she tried to do a nice thing.

905
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, this is the one dilemma I had,

906
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 6: because she definitely let him down.

907
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 5: But did she write you know, like.

908
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: I think if it wasn't his dark day, he would

909
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 2: have seen the gesture more clearly, because she wasn't saying

910
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,959
Speaker 2: you're gonna have this boat. She was saying, I took

911
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 2: the boat in case you ever realized you want the boat.

912
00:47:55,120 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 2: Like she was not overstepping that aggressively, and she bought

913
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 2: the boat and figures it all out.

914
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: I think, you know what I think it was. I

915
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: think it was a moment of real weakness for Luke,

916
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: and I think it was a moment of real vulnerability.

917
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 1: And I think it was a moment of real insecurity

918
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: where I think he was venting on her about all

919
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: of the frustration that he felt for those years that

920
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: he watched her date other guys and not acknowledge him.

921
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: I think all that came out in that moment because

922
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: of who she was, not who she is. I am

923
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: as a way to perhaps because if he's not giving

924
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: her the benefit of the doubt for doing an obviously

925
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: very kind, very thoughtful gesture, you know, and it's like

926
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 1: you forgive a person that you love for doing something

927
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: like that, you don't pop at him. So I think

928
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: he has some pent up anger.

929
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 2: I don't to disagree with you. But in this case,

930
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 2: I think there is something to it.

931
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: I think I also think it plays into his insecurity

932
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: that he doesn't he doesn't know for sure that this

933
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: is going to work out, this relationship is going to

934
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: work out, because he knows he's he's maybe a little

935
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: too off center for her, a little quirky and a

936
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: little wacky.

937
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: There's something to what you're saying.

938
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: There's something like the wheels are coming off in a

939
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: weird way here. He's getting triggered in a way and

940
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: he's being very militant about the whole thing, and I

941
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: just think it's just reeking of insecurity.

942
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 2: He's also super unhinged because he's yelling at the lady

943
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 2: going to the nursing home. Also, I'm asking myself a question.

944
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 2: I feel like, she said she bought the boat, but

945
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 2: why does she buy a boat that wasn't Missus Thompson's

946
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 2: to sell? So I might have I'm throwing a flag

947
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: on that that I might have messed that up. So

948
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 2: maybe she just paid Pa.

949
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 4: I was thinking, like paid her out for the oh

950
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 4: for the renter to get here. Yeah, that's what I

951
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 4: was thinking, Scott.

952
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 2: I think there's something to what you're saying, it's almost

953
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 2: like on the dark day, all of Luke's stuff that

954
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 2: he pushes down comes flying out.

955
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: But for him to interpret that as her not respecting

956
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: his dark day and what he's going through and what

957
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 1: he went through with his dad, because there's no possible

958
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: way she could know what he went through because he

959
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: didn't tell her. He didn't give her any real detail.

960
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: It just gave her the sort of you know, the

961
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: cliff note version. It's just you know, it's just And

962
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: why is he keeping it from her? Why won't he

963
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: tell her?

964
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 7: Right?

965
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: Because he doesn't like to be vulnerable.

966
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 2: He hates being vulnerable.

967
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: I just I just think that he doesn't. I think

968
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: that showed he doesn't think that that relationship is going

969
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: to make it maybe and he's scared, and it's scared

970
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,439
Speaker 1: security right right, right, She's going to find somebody better.

971
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: She's going to find somebody better, and she's going to

972
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: find somebody that doesn't have a dark day. You know, there's.

973
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 2: Something to what you're saying. I can't totally figure it out,

974
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: but I think you're right, Like his outburst is more

975
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 2: than it was deserved for her getting doing something nice

976
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 2: for him, And even if you're mad, like you would say, like, well,

977
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 2: this was really nice of you, but I don't know

978
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 2: what I want to do with this boat, you know

979
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: what I mean?

980
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, worse giving her the benefit of doubt. She's

981
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: being they're having a great relationship.

982
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: Well, and then I what I assume happens is he

983
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 2: goes off wherever he goes. She goes to Miss Patty's

984
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 2: for the fortieth Show Business Anniversary and she sees him

985
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 2: out the window and she comes out, and that was

986
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 2: a very sweet scene. That was That scene made me go,

987
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: all these two are together, mm hmm. So whatever junk

988
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: he had, he obviously went took a deep breath, and

989
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 2: even he even wasn't ready to come back to Miss Patty's,

990
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 2: like he didn't want to go to the party, but

991
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 2: he wanted her to know, like sorry about my junk,

992
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 2: you know.

993
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: Yeah he's missing his dad.

994
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so so good. Also just sighed out

995
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: the fact that Kirk's reading Yoga for Dummies just killed me.

996
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 2: But but my favorite scene, I have to tell you,

997
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 2: my favorite scene of this whole episode is Richard just

998
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 2: owning Logan with.

999
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 4: I mean, that was the best scene.

1000
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 2: That was epic and shows me that Rory Rory likes logan.

1001
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 2: She's in, She's.

1002
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: In, Okay, let me okay, then go ahead, go ahead.

1003
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 5: Danielle, I was gonna say.

1004
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 6: And also that her and Richard are tight.

1005
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,919
Speaker 5: You know, like precious, precious, you know, like they are,

1006
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 5: they are in cahoots and just you know.

1007
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, these two are doing this dance and now she

1008
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 2: has leveled up to his level, which no girl has

1009
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 2: ever done. Yea, oh it is on.

1010
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 6: And she brought in She brought in the head Gilmore,

1011
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 6: you know, like that's not just like oh the buddy,

1012
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 6: and you.

1013
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 2: Know she studied coming in the prank with me your

1014
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 2: cards and I'll raise you to me she went. It

1015
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 2: was so good, and it's like, oh, he is so

1016
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 2: going to be into her, and the friends are going

1017
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 2: to be like respect miss Gilmour, do you know what

1018
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 2: I mean?

1019
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: Like, oh my.

1020
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 5: God, I think they're all going to be scared of her.

1021
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 2: And Richard.

1022
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: Now she's got game.

1023
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 2: That's probably the best Rory Richards scene in a while.

1024
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 2: I mean, they bond, but that was epic, and you

1025
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 2: know he loved it, you know, granddaughter at his school

1026
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 2: playing a prank on his friend's son, like it is

1027
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 2: just so good, so good.

1028
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 3: Well, I was shocked that Logan actually like believe the

1029
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,720
Speaker 3: whole thing beginning to end.

1030
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: Richard, but he put on quite a performance. It was

1031
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: a tad unbelievable, Like.

1032
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: Right, you're engaged now, yeah, but it's just.

1033
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 6: Like is rich with that being said, like if they're

1034
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 6: if their parents are doing parties where they find a suitor,

1035
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 6: like maybe it's not too far fett.

1036
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,439
Speaker 1: All right, so let's uh, let's rate this. Uh bad boy?

1037
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, can I give I don't want someone to

1038
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 2: steal mine ten butt faces because she calls him the

1039
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 2: butt face?

1040
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 1: You give him ten butt faces, all right? Tara?

1041
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 3: Oh, oh my gosh, what I'm like thinking of what

1042
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 3: items were in this?

1043
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: Do you think, Danielle?

1044
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 5: Okay, nine point ninety five.

1045
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:50,959
Speaker 6: Robes, super comfortable robes, super comfortable robes, right, Tara, I.

1046
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 3: Will give it, but this is very random. The whistle

1047
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 3: that when he was I was wearing it.

1048
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 1: How many whistles, how many whistles?

1049
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 4: I will give it nine point eight?

1050
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 2: Oh see, every loves it.

1051
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: I can't want to give it. I'm going to give

1052
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: it ten U shocked Logan expressions as Richard.

1053
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 2: Was, I do have a couple of favorite lines that

1054
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 2: we didn't do, which she says when they say Gutenberg

1055
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 2: and she goes, Steve.

1056
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: Not not my favorite line?

1057
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 2: Well, oh my god, do you not like Steve?

1058
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: I don't like lines like that. I I don't think

1059
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: that stuff is funny. That's just I do. It's just

1060
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 1: such low hanging fruit. It's like, come on, oh my.

1061
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 2: God, I love every mention of froyo. Literally I couldn't

1062
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 2: get enough of froyo.

1063
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 4: And then I would just say.

1064
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 2: Richard's entire speech was just yeah, and this all right,

1065
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 2: the hands on the nose.

1066
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, good, let's uh, let's wrap.

1067
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 2: It up before we go. Truly. I know you don't

1068
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 2: love when we call this out, but like truly amazing,

1069
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 2: really a good performance. That episode was you and it

1070
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,439
Speaker 2: was it was Kina gnarly and it was really good.

1071
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,439
Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate it all right, So that's gonna wrap

1072
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,959
Speaker 1: it up. We will see you next time. Best fans

1073
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: on the planet, Thanks for downloaded. Keep those cards and

1074
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Speaker 1: letters coming, Thank you ladies. And that's going to do it.

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Speaker 1: Remember I am all in all the best, Stay.

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