WEBVTT - Episode 323 w/ Consequence 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.480 Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:17.639 and I Heart Radio and his Drink Chas motherfucking podcast. Mason, 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:21.840 he's a legendary queen's rapper. He's agree. It's your boy 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:25.279 in O R. He's a Miami hippop pioneer up his 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:27.920 DJ e f N. Together they drink it up with 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:32.520 some of the biggest players in the most professional unprofessional 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:36.040 podcast and your number one sorts for drunk fast drinks. 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:41.120 Motherfucking is New year' z. Just for Drink Champs. Trink 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:49.080 Up Mother Mother, would a goodby, hopefully would a super 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:51.040 this ship boy in O R? What up is d 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:53.360 J e f N and his Drink Chace? Motherfucker? Ya 0:00:53.880 --> 0:01:01.200 make now when you talk about a legend legend talking 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:03.600 about a man who's who, who's not only made hits, 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:07.600 but been behind constant hits for years. She came in 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:10.240 a game. I believe he first heard him the first 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:13.199 time we heard him. Officially, it's ninety six with try 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:16.160 but I already started out ninety People gonna ask that later, 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:22.880 but he has been uh you know, you know, I 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:25.840 had to do my due diligence and I had to go. 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:29.880 You know, look at other interviews, he's been doing other things. 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:34.600 And boy, it's a Rooter coaster and most of us 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:41.480 love Rota coasters. It's it's it's been, you know, a 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.679 great time. But the man, when the man feels something, 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:47.480 he expresses it. He's not in type the whole back. 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:51.040 He's gonna talk when he fails, he's gonna feel what 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:54.320 he says and all that. But the case you don't 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:56.920 know I'm talking about. We're talking about one of the 0:01:57.000 --> 0:02:00.760 illness ghost riders in the game when us hit makers 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:05.040 in the game. Excuse me, excuse me, because he gets 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:08.200 his credit, he gets his credit, his name want the 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:12.560 back of y'all y'all mean, yeah, you know what I mean. 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:17.280 Case you don't know shows a little bit, a little bit, 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:19.400 a little bit, But case you don't know what we're 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:22.359 talking to talk about the mother one, the only my 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:33.040 home girl que consequence on Google. Let's get straight on 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:41.639 Google and say to Google, that's a rando, could be 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:48.200 a reporter or whatever, just hasn't hasn't done. No, that's 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:50.880 what I'm saying. No that I didn't say. The first 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:54.280 thing you started and started ninety three rhyme. I guess 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:58.919 your first official record was ninety six before that is 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:05.040 eighty nine. Wow, that's yeah, you know it's funny. Uh. 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:07.079 I felt like kel hard when he was interviewing M 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:11.560 to dud he said damn like I almost said that. Yeah. 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:17.000 Q till mom uh was pretty much my first co sign. 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:21.760 So um, my grandma. What happened with my grandma's daughter 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:25.200 at eighty nine and a friend of mine who I 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:30.360 eventually endo rapping where his brother got killed, uh same 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:33.200 year a little a little before that maybe like went 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:36.640 to eighty eight he got popped and like um and 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:41.320 the dead end. So what happened was my man, my 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:45.240 Manikee he his his brother Lamar used to wrap so 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:48.720 Ike to cope with the grief, took his rap book 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:52.200 and started saying his wraps. And then my grandma she 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:57.560 died in leukemia. Uh eighty nine. So I started writing 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:01.320 because I saw how it helped Ike, you know, uh 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:04.760 processing and and cope with the cope with the grief. 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:10.800 So that's how I actually started rapping, and um Q 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:16.200 to mom um actually so what I was doing. And 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:20.400 definitely she was like a cheerleader the tip as far 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:24.120 as eventually me uh giving being given the opportunity in 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:28.600 ninety three. But to do the shase part too, shout out, 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:32.240 shout out to Mama Davis, your kid, to mothers and sisters. Na, 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:35.880 we were second were second cousins. You know what I'm saying. 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:40.640 So it's a it's a, it's a. I moved to 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:47.280 New York from California eight you know, so I had 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:49.599 connected with a bunch of family back on the East Coast. 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:52.280 My mom and popad Opops was in the Navy, so 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:56.039 we was living in San Diego, stationed out there. My 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:58.760 mom de Pops eventually divorce and then we came back 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.040 to came back to the East. But y'all, I was 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:03.600 froming New York originally and didn't move from while I'm 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:06.520 from New York and my sister was born in San Diego. Okay, okay, yeah, 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:10.640 So that's how that that's how. Yes, I actually got 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:13.040 a six one, six one nine number. I'm about to 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:16.359 turn off, but I got a six one number. Um, 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:20.640 just and and how much to that time period? Right, 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:24.400 So let's let's not let's go over because, like I said, 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:26.880 there's a couple of interviews with you out there now. 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:29.760 We're doing drink chances of all, when we spoke, right, 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:32.719 we said this was gonna be queens all day doing 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:36.320 nothing Already I'm not doing you know, let'sen get to 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:38.880 the point. Let's get let's get the one point. I 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:42.599 see the Kanye documentary, Okay, I hit you. I thought 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:44.680 you hit me, but I hate you, right, I hit you, 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:47.599 And I was like, yo, bro, this was this is 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:52.120 dope man. And I couldn't tell. But I kind of 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:55.080 thought that you didn't like it from the first episode. 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:58.840 I don't remember we spoke since then, right, But um, well, 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.640 my take on it. You know, there's a business side 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:05.039 to it, and there's obviously there's a personal and there's 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:07.840 a just a perspective from living in you know what 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:11.480 I'm saying. The business side, Um, I ain't working with 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.679 certain niggers because of that. But when you say business 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:17.240 the way it was put together the documentary or I'm 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:19.320 not gonna be on Netflix and I don't get no check, 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:23.680 that's that's against my principle, you know what I'm saying, 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:26.760 Like when he gave you the intro, you know, Rollercoast 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:28.640 to this, that and the thrub. But once again, I've 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:33.000 always been able to retain uh ownership of what I 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:36.080 do how I do it, my likeness, so forth and 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.560 so on. So when someone takes that, it takes it 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:43.280 upon themselves not to I just saw the way. But dinner, right, 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.200 I just signed a way to be on Netflix. I 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:49.039 signed a way to be on the volt So I 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:51.880 gotta sign a way. But to be on Netflix, that's 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:54.800 that's business. I don't got nothing to do. But but 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.240 but who who do we point to finger for? That? 0:06:57.560 --> 0:06:59.760 Is it? Is it you? Because now it's not yet. 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:04.280 So let's just be clear, right, actually does great business, 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.640 you know what I'm saying. You know, I tipped my 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:11.640 hat to him. You know, even from the outside looking interview, 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:15.800 if anybody knew the extent of our relationship, we've done 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.840 great business over then Yeah, it's been as a road coaster. 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:24.520 You're dealing with some a person, uh who's who a 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:29.560 bus through certain frontiers for um, not only yourself, but 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:32.680 for for the culture. You know. So that's gonna come 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:35.200 with that's gonna come with growing pains. I was with 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:39.040 you from when you've seen in the documentary, like literally 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.640 when we he was trying to figure out all falls down. 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.240 But that's him trying to figure it out. That's the 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:48.840 first day that that was maybe like the fourth time 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:50.760 I was with Kanye. That was the first time I 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.080 met any of those people. So the thing was like 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.640 when you hit me, I was just like taking it 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:59.120 all in and you had you knew because it's guy, 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:03.840 I believe I would see we're skipping things, were skipping things. 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:07.080 Because the one thing about the documentary is like, Yo, 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:09.040 at the end of the day, I had already been 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:12.640 on David Letterman, I had already been on Moisha, I 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:15.120 had already been on Rosie O'donnald, I had already been 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.480 on all that. You know, I just hit I hit 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:21.320 a bad term with with Tribe, but I had already 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.720 I was already for all in sense of purposes famous, 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.720 you know what I mean. So the thing, one thing 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.360 in particular for me was just like you know, at 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:32.240 the end of the day, you know, like I love 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:37.400 all my oh the fam that came as far as 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.679 like me and Kanye Lincoln. But you know, a lot 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.760 of times sometimes people think I am actually from Chicago 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:47.840 and I actually started with Kanye, which I could understand 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:50.520 because the thing about hip hop is like we all 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:56.040 we all we all document hip hop once once we 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:59.080 pick up on it. Right, So hip hop starts for 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:03.840 for the beginning for you, whenever the beginning is for you, Like, um, 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:07.360 I've had conversations us whatever success start like people don't 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:09.440 people know we kind of right before l A l A. 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.240 People start my career from l A because that's the first, 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.560 that's that, that's the beacon point for that, right. But 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:18.680 you know I've had I've had certain rappers in this 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:20.960 era that the front of era tell me they didn't 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:24.440 know who g rap was at all, which for me, 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:28.520 it's it's blasphemy, right, you know what I'm saying, because 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:32.239 you know, we know g Rap as one of the 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:36.600 pioneers of of all bars you know what I'm saying 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:40.360 of storytelling and bars that like he was like saying 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.400 ship that was just ahead of his time, you know 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:45.520 what I mean. So once again it sped back to 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:51.040 that situation with the documentary. Um so for me seeing it, 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:57.320 for me, it was, you know, like it wasn't fully 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:02.120 explained how me a mad the deal we have Range 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:05.040 and its Kanye documentary. So it's fine. I don't have 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:13.240 no issue with Cod and Coody and cheek as it's 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:20.440 it's about what they didn't feel. It like that. So 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:25.560 the issue then becomes that this Kanye documentary then for 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:27.360 the average person, that's the way they looked at, right, 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.800 And that's the thing. Once someone takes it in on 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:34.559 a platform like Netflix, they're gonna they're gonna make the 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:38.400 assentience that this is this is the truth, this is 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.680 this is what, this is the occurrence of events and 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:45.319 how it went. So so yeah, I mean and I 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.160 said it. I said it to Coody and check in 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:49.360 their face. I went to the s ob Joint crash 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:52.120 they whatever. I was like, yo, Like at the end 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:53.960 of the day, I don't have it. I've been on TV, 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:57.000 like you said, so I understand the process of when 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:01.520 a network takes to create if and they apply edit 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:03.360 into it. They do it with Love and hip Hop. 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:07.280 You you a film, I don't know. You might film 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:09.520 the whole week, right, and you might get four minutes 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:14.360 of that in the episode. Now this is the problem. 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:16.520 Back to Loving hip Hop for a second. No matter 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:19.360 what Love and Hip Hop does, when you sign that contract, 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:24.920 if you appear in the episode, you get paid. I 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:28.560 appeared in three episodes in That of a Genius and 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.439 didn't get a dollar. 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Get help today by visiting 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:19.800 shatterproof dot org. Again, get help today by visiting shatterproof 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:30.200 dot Org's advocate For a second. You're gonna do who 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.880 because it's serious, But I want to light nothing to move, 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:38.160 but we'll stay on the subject. Is it always all 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:47.319 about money? Yes? Absolutely, set it's absolutely with nobody. That's 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.280 absolutely about that paper because me, I don't got nothing 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:52.520 to do. See this is the thing, right, I didn't 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.520 come into wrap to be friends with nobody. I can't 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.160 get this money from queens. This queens get the money. 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:04.559 There's not queens play no game. So where's my money? Right? Right? 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.120 So let me be there was advocate. You can put 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:13.440 the horns on ahead, Okay, okay, because in all fairness, 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:16.960 this is when you like, not y'all, but y'all first 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:20.160 met each other. So there wasn't open more. Right, So 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.320 even in context, let's break it down, right, So this 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:25.720 is when we first met. There wasn't Netflix. So even 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:28.280 if I were to saw something, then it went whole way. 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:30.400 Now at the end of the day, there was no 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:35.160 streaming platforms. This is gonna stream for fetuity. Bro, Listen, 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.280 let's I get it there out of jail with the 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:44.840 loyal liburry. I know a family, feel me. I've been 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:49.240 doing contracts since drive your bro. It's checkmate. I need 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:54.400 my paper right but and again, and that's for principle. 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:56.520 I don't need it because I need it. I need 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:58.360 it over principle. You know what I'm saying. It's just 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:00.720 it's just, how are you gonna do If you're gonna 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:03.040 do business with your friends, do business with your friends. 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:05.559 You're not gonna do somebody else like that? And then 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.320 tell him, you know you you make friends over business. 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:10.199 But I've seen a lot of people make friends over 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:15.040 business and then break up friendships over lack of business. Okay, 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:18.360 but I'll see you a curve ball because you were 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:20.520 the only one, like when I when I heard that, 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:24.040 and then I'm always the only one, by the way, Okay, 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:26.840 I'm always the only one, and I've been the only one. 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:30.720 I'm the only one I ever joined trial. Wow wow, 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:33.880 But I'm not. I'm the only one you would even 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:37.080 consider to let right anything. I am the only one. 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:48.600 I'm the one that it was interested because, um, the 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:51.320 same thing. I believe I spoke to you. It was 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.800 only the first episode, was out right. It was not. 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:55.640 I didn't even know there was another episode. I thought 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:58.320 that was just the whole documentary. That's what I'm saluting you. 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:01.080 And I didn't see your point. Actually me too, because 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.240 you was the first person to hit me about it, 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:05.800 so I didn't know what the whole layout was. And 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.680 like I said, it's due to the fact that I've 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:12.280 done the kind of business that I've done that I 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:14.680 have a point of reference of how to be treated. 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:19.000 I don't. I'm not. It's not my documentary. It's it's 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:23.280 not consequence of documentaries. It's Kanye's or it's Kanye cooties. However, 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:26.320 the creative part of it goes. I have no issue 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:30.120 with that at all. I have an issue with from 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:33.760 being able to oberstrate operate as a from an admin 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:37.480 side that there's no clarences, there's no check cut, there's 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:39.680 no nothing, there's no and there's no getting around that. 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:43.240 But put the hat on the other side for why 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:50.440 this is, louis why what if? What if you had 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:52.680 footage and I'm sure you probably got some footage. You 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.360 know what I said was I'll pay for it over 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.400 my career. There's no other side. I mean telling ill said, 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:00.320 well something, I had to pay for it, to pay 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:05.760 James Brown um far pre sent and ten thousand dollars 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:09.320 for hey you La Collins. He didn't even say it 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:13.560 is the state wanteds in thousand. That's the game. That 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:16.240 is the game. That's the game we're playing. We're not 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:19.120 this is the music business. This is not you know 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:24.080 we obviously once again here let me put something out 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:27.760 to you on the reel. Had I got a request 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:31.720 or been asked by people who have relationships with I 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:34.320 wouldn't have this position. I didn't go to the screen. Now, 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:37.200 I didn't get an invite this, So there's nothing for 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:50.800 me documentary. Okay, you know what I'm saying. So if 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:55.560 we it's not about to your point you're saying, it's 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:58.160 not it's everything about the money because the other side 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.880 of that is the relationship. Right, But how is their 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:05.879 relationship with our communication? Right? If you don't communicate, you 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:08.439 can't take the relationship for granted, and you can't create 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:12.600 a relationship that's not there. My relationship is with Kanye West. 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:17.639 That's who you saw me with numerous times. So my 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:20.320 relationship is with him. If Kanye come to me and 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:23.040 say can I get a concession, it's a no brainer. 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.000 If somebody just takes something to run with it, they're 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:30.240 actually a thief. It's called professional courtesy, right because you 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:33.000 actually were doing the work for hire for Kanye at 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:36.800 that time, and and it's no respect to the brand 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:39.919 value of where it stands right now, Like I just 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:42.879 wanna I just want to grab me with Kanye for Hurricane. 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:45.399 I'm supposed to task somebody take something from me. I 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:48.600 don't make no sense, no way, no how because let 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:50.760 me's just like one second the same day I supposed 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:54.359 to live quality and because he was in the same episode, right, 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:58.159 So I supposed to you expected him to kind of 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.120 have the same attitude, and you know, Kanye had just 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:03.080 kind of like this stuff, right, you know what I'm 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:06.160 talking about that. So when I said to him, if 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:07.880 you don't talk about that. So when I said to him, 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:10.760 did you know I'm gonna be honest with you? He 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:14.040 didn't know neither. But he didn't say what you said. 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:17.920 He was Now, but you got to understand something. When 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:21.760 Kanye come up here like like dark Man and start 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:25.439 emptying the clip, right, but he busting that certain niggas 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:27.440 because of how they move, you know what I mean. 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:30.400 So yeah, he that might not have been concerning him. 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:33.520 That's a concern of mind. What I'm saying, that's a 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:35.680 concern of mom because me and Kanye you have does 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:38.520 so much business together that it's a no brain. No. 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:41.240 He Kanye ain't never tweet like cass Is bugging for 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:43.680 what he said on something and suthing about the documentary. 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:47.240 N he not because he knows it's a buck so 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:57.120 a whole mill walking really keep going, yeah, okay man, 0:18:57.200 --> 0:18:59.560 this is good. It's good, this is good, this is good. 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:02.879 So have you spoken to you sinter genus. Are you 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:05.600 spoken to people around him? I'm sure. I mean we 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:10.880 have we me and Kanye. Uh, you know, we UM 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:13.560 were number one. Certain things I could devote into public, 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:17.080 Certain things I can't just because of our venice arrangements. 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:22.360 But you know, UM, I mean he actually kind of 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:25.440 alluded to it when he UM put up a G 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:28.000 post and he shouted out point Pat. He said, point 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.720 Pat wasn't in the documentary, and he was an intricate 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:37.120 part of UM Kanye's sustainability as all the way around 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:38.960 the board, you know, creatively, you know what I'm saying. 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:41.600 He was like, you know, if I had five, I 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:43.879 think he said something to the CENTERF I had five, 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:47.679 if my fingers were friends planning, Pat is one of 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:49.480 my fingers. I only got four fingers left, you know 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:53.119 what I'm saying, Um so into you know. And he 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:55.200 also said that, you know, he felt a way about 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:57.840 people clowning up off them, you know. And I could 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:00.320 understand that because like even when I went to the 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:03.879 s obs UM when I went to the s O 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:09.359 B said clouding up, clouding up. So even when I 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:12.600 went to the s O B's um, the sneaky, the 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:17.200 sneaky uh, um screening. You know when I walked in there, 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:20.200 everybody looked like they were in trouble, you know what 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:23.040 I mean. It was like it wasn't like you know, 0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:26.560 it wasn't like oh you know, it was like, oh, 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:30.800 she hain't called us screening for part two or for 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:34.960 episode two O. The l A screening was episode one. 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:38.640 What I'm saying, um, you know, and I performed good, bad, ugly, 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:41.040 and you know, like the thing is that what you 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:45.399 was using? Like that you performed They asked me to though, ho, 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:48.800 I gott stand up a little bit like, no, not 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:51.440 venice business. It's all business, nor its none of this 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:54.639 is personal. None of this is personal. So so at 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:56.560 the end of the day, it produced if I go 0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:59.360 on stage, right, they all get. It wasn't like yo, 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:02.480 what you do don't here? It was like, oh you here. 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:06.399 But I'm like, I'm like, yo, but y'are doing the 0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:10.600 way you're doing. The whole is not on front Street, right, 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:12.080 you know what I mean. Because at the end of 0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:15.959 the day, like even take take like the situation with Shaka, 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:18.159 I don't know she knew she was gonna end up 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:22.760 looking like she ain't believing you. Okay, I'm saying right, right, 0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:25.080 So even when Wayno was out here saying like yo, well, 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:27.560 because that's the that's the thing, Like, it was like 0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:31.080 a whole wave that ain't had nothing to do with 0:21:31.119 --> 0:21:36.320 nobody who was actually there in that capacity, and they 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:38.159 none of them was at don none of them was 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:42.320 in Atlanta. Right. So so if you meet it kind 0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:45.680 of looked like shaker, like a soul shaker, you might 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:48.439 be upset, you know what I'm saying you You you 0:21:48.520 --> 0:21:51.720 might feel like this is your way to bust a lane. 0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:54.760 But it's almost at the expense of a body who 0:21:54.840 --> 0:21:57.520 really get down, who really worked, who really been in 0:21:57.560 --> 0:21:59.719 the trenches with Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So 0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:02.359 so because at the end of the day, regardless, the 0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:08.719 end result of uh Kanye's record deal with Rocketfeller was 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:13.480 the release of the college Dropout. Right, that's the world. 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:16.920 So so the thing is, once again, like I said, 0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:21.719 you're gonna go through growing pains in any relationship. A 0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:24.320 lot of people people fall in love with the final product, 0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:27.720 not the conveyor belt. Right, So if they fell in 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:33.000 love with the college dropout, then by default then they there, Yo, 0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:35.960 I was doing this. You know what I'm saying, they 0:22:36.480 --> 0:22:38.680 gave me an opportunity to you know, what's so funny 0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:44.280 because at one point when I was signed, I was 0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:47.800 still signed a C tip through the owner, like I 0:22:47.880 --> 0:22:49.879 was supposed to sign a rocketeller. That's why I was 0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:53.320 so ironic. Well I'm not saying it's supposed to but 0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:56.240 Jay was very interested in picking me up. And it's 0:22:56.240 --> 0:23:01.040 funny that Jay's kind of always been me and Jay. 0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:06.040 I met Jay Z at the Gavin and we always 0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:10.960 always um kind of intermingled. We never had like a 0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:14.040 one to one direct relationship, but we always kind of 0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:16.000 inter mingo. So we're just so funny. It was like 0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:20.160 he spoke to Que about me, and you know, at 0:23:20.160 --> 0:23:22.880 the time, me and me and Q was going through 0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:24.840 a lot of personal things, so I didn't we didn't 0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:26.520 go that route, but I ended up kind of going 0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:31.840 that direction anyway. So just very ironic and like and 0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:34.360 and you know, like, and I'm saying this because I'm 0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:39.120 actually uh saluting Jay because you know, we've had we've 0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:44.439 we've had on share of trouble, but um, he's always 0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:46.919 seen the value in what I brought to the table. 0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:51.520 He took a shot at you on anybody was up 0:23:51.520 --> 0:23:56.479 on Z. I'm like, uh yeah, I mean yeah at 0:23:56.480 --> 0:23:58.440 the time, because it was it was up, you still 0:23:58.480 --> 0:24:02.320 think that though the time it was up, at the 0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:06.000 time it was now I'm look, look, here's the thing, right, 0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:09.760 when when it was when when we were going through 0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:11.800 what we were going through was the transition period, and 0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:15.760 me and Kanye had to have this conversation in private. 0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:17.320 You know, some of it is kind of you know, 0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:20.719 has obviously been in the public at the time. You know. 0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:25.480 The the hard thing about Kanye as my brother, right 0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:30.360 is that it's hard. It's it's hard when people will 0:24:30.440 --> 0:24:33.720 do anything to be next to him, right, So I've 0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:39.800 seen artists like literally, I mean you know, people just 0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:43.000 will do anything to be next to Kanye West. It's 0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:47.000 just a real thing, you know, especially it was so 0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:52.080 you so so look, here's the thing, right, It wasn't 0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:55.199 no easies for me back then. It was the sketch 0:24:55.240 --> 0:25:01.560 pad of him drawing sneakers, you understand, deep, So before 0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:04.760 it was something to be on a friends and family 0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:09.760 list for it was just idea dream. It was before 0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:11.480 it was getting out our dreams. It was I have 0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:15.600 dreams I want to get out right, and he and 0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:19.760 I essentially became like Squam partners on the mic, you know, 0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:25.879 and it it actually worked. You know, he had he 0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:30.879 was he he always Kanye has never been a person 0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:33.199 that was struggling for money. You know, his mars was 0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:36.399 well to do as far as having influence and having 0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:40.320 having a great career in Chicago. So he he was. 0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:42.960 I never met car I've never seen Kanye struggle. I've 0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:45.480 never seen none of that boat. But when he came 0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:50.320 to Polo, I mean, I mean before the pink Polo 0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:53.560 was part of the product. I mean when I met him, 0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:56.639 you know, he had a bands, he wanted the bigger bands. 0:25:56.840 --> 0:26:02.000 He had dreams that he wanted to see see coming 0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:05.600 to fruition, and he just it was it was more 0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:10.639 about having the tools. Um. So, so when I said 0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:15.160 earlier about him me being the one that he would 0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:19.800 he would actually rap with, take rap from etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, 0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:23.320 It's real. It's at you know, at one point we 0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:26.600 developed a comfort level to where it was like yo, yo, 0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:29.200 help me with this wrong with that joint, you know 0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:33.399 what I'm saying. Remember I did UM. I had wrote 0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:39.720 a record UM that we we wanted to submit for 0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:42.919 UM little Kim, and she wound up using the choruses 0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:45.800 called came Back for You so on Labella, the owner 0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:49.080 Labella Mafia album actually wrote came up with the idea 0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:53.600 for the chorus. Um, and I had rhyms that I 0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:56.680 wanted Kim to take. What Kim was very specific about 0:26:56.720 --> 0:27:01.000 not taking. Wanted to have a ghostwriter at that time 0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:05.160 or whatever. And you know, but the ship was firing. Um. 0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:08.280 You know, Kanye definitely was like, you know, I had 0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:14.400 to do the Brandy joint. Uh that man and man, 0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:16.280 he had to do the Brandy job. He gave the 0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:20.119 record man, you know, no, and you know the fans 0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:23.040 Watson this no, you know what I mean. You know, 0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:24.520 I got the shades on all and hit you with 0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:27.280 the wing wing, but you know what I mean. Um, 0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:33.399 So so that that for begin with what that's what 0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:36.640 began a level of trust, you know what I'm saying 0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:39.080 between he and I. You know what I'm saying. And 0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:40.919 and we made a lot of other but like my 0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:43.919 point was, I have had to see a lot of 0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:47.399 people try to do a lot of things just to 0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:51.320 get in that position. And it wasn't something that I 0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:54.520 ever I ever did. I never did that. I never. 0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:58.280 I never was, like, I never was on that because 0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:00.520 I didn't really have to be, because it was when 0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:05.560 we developed our relationship. Did you guys connect? We we 0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:09.600 met right after he did the Blueprint. Um we were 0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:15.160 introduced uh through to each other from by Ad eight Keys. Um. 0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:19.000 I met Ad eight Keys back in the Tribe days. Um, 0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:21.960 he was just you know, he had a relationship with 0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:24.960 Q Tip. They would um a T eight I believe 0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:27.080 worked at a record store, I want to say, and 0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:28.879 Q Tip would go there to get vinyl at the 0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:30.840 time when that was that was the thing with sampling 0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:34.520 or whatever. Um. But AD eight did beats. He was 0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:37.320 trying to get him more. So he called Q Tip's 0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:40.560 crib one day, introduced himself like, yeah, I got beat. 0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:44.240 You know, one thing led to another. I still lived 0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:46.840 in Queens, so I took a trip out to go 0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:50.920 check him, and he had joints and we just became 0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:54.760 friends over time. He just yeah, yeah. So and then 0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:58.200 this is this is the during the recording of beach 0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:00.960 Rims of Life, going into like what would be my 0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:04.200 solo record that didn't the first product that I've made 0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:08.160 that never had came out. It was that was supposed 0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:11.720 to come out through cuts label, the Museum music real 0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:15.720 quick fun fact beat training, left artwork same right, Yeah, 0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:18.080 shout out the game, not just definitely shout understand. I 0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:22.880 actually spoke to him, um, because I wound up. I 0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:25.040 think there was a beach round the Life and there 0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:29.160 was a beach round the Life anniversary and somebody at 0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:30.760 a scam and I was like, I hadn't seen him 0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:33.480 in yet. Um. And then I saw the drink chance look, 0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:39.360 I said, And then I remembered he's from Miami, the local. 0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:42.440 How do you know he did it? It's on the stage. Oh, 0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:50.320 it's on the stage. He just looked at right. Um, 0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:54.360 but you know what I mean. So eight eight keys, 0:29:54.880 --> 0:30:00.640 so fast forward. Um, it's right at the nine eleven. Uh. 0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:03.960 And I had a deal at rock As that fell through. 0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:06.520 So you're talking about the roller coaster. So like I'm 0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:10.920 popped pop Plezzy, you know what I'm saying. Um. And 0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:15.239 come two thousands and two January eight called me. You know, 0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:19.280 he was like, um, yo, I got a friend of mine, 0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:23.120 um that I just did a joint for and he 0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:25.120 would like we were talking about who could be a 0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:27.280 feature on it, and I brought you in the name 0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:29.840 up and his name is Kanye's knees. You might have 0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:31.720 heard him when he did he did uh a lot 0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:34.160 of the blueprint for jay Z and and another friend 0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:38.480 of miney Um Hans Elder who's uh d dots from 0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:42.800 Crazy uh Devik Angeli's cousin Um had brought him up 0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:45.240 in a conversation and said at the time that me 0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:49.560 and to me and Kanye were very similar. Um. It 0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:52.240 fars like his resonation of music like you get like 0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:53.840 you guys remind me a lot of each other. I 0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:56.040 think it would be cool if y'all hooked up. But 0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:59.120 it was a conversation, yeah, yeah, it was like a premonition, 0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:02.880 like aative tongue sound almost like saying the native tongue 0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:04.600 of sound like both of y'all kind of seemed like 0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:08.160 y'all belonging lative tongue um a more specific to than 0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:11.120 each other, Like, well, I am from the native tongue. 0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:14.280 You know what I'm saying. No, no, we're saying, but 0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:17.840 from the native you know what I'm saying. I mean, 0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:20.760 And I wasn't specifically to the happiness of every member 0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:23.840 of the native tongue, but nonetheless it is what it is. 0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:27.240 It's queens get the money. I can't get it like 0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:32.440 Kindred Spirits right right because because at the time, so 0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:38.600 like the sensibility of sampling, Um, the the Lauren unplugged 0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:42.800 joint is a native tongue sensibility for for all falls, 0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:46.200 you know, like the drum pattern to all fold down 0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:50.640 is a native tongue sensibility. But but you know, I 0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:55.320 think the thing that makes Kanye him also is the 0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:59.200 fact that he's able to jump in and out of 0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:02.080 lanes when it comes to production, especially you know what 0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:04.680 I mean, so the women, and he'll have that sensibility, 0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:09.000 but then could still make um stand up for Luda, 0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:14.040 you know what I mean, um or or um obviously 0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:17.560 you know what I'm saying, which does have those same sensibilities. 0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:20.080 But he was able to be the production of to 0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:22.600 where it could go at radio as well. Um. But 0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:27.680 the native tom sensibility is is at core a cultural things. 0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:30.400 So it's like the culture of what the sound is 0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:34.720 in and the musicality. So um, So that's how we 0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:37.080 met that we met the ad in case um I 0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:40.560 did the feature, he offered to pay me three thousand 0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:45.200 or or he would be willing to cut. He would 0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:49.080 be willing up beats. Yeah, let me get first pick. 0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:51.840 So I never I never boiled him about the three 0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:54.800 thousand and like I said before, literally eight off for 0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:57.480 that three thousand for the rest of my life look 0:32:57.560 --> 0:33:02.720 for that guy. So, like I said, I watched these 0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:05.800 three interviews and it was crazy because it was like 0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:09.600 one where you was like real, real, like upset at 0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:13.640 all them from Joe was to to uh, to even 0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:16.280 hope because you don't hold a shot at you talking 0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:20.480 about like that. I never was upset with pump it Up. 0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:25.200 I never was upset with pumping up. I just felt 0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:27.200 like pumping up came out of his faith. So moving before, 0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:28.920 I don't want to do nothing about pump it up, 0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:31.840 I said. I got a new single out Blood staying 0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:39.360 I can't argue about pump it up. Jesus Jesus. I mean, 0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:51.880 I'm just saying I can't, man, come on, pump it off. Uh, God, 0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:54.640 you're turning was I don't want how to pump it up. 0:33:54.680 --> 0:34:00.320 I stripped out the party. Hurricane say I've about it up? 0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:05.840 Would you when you can do verses against what don't 0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:10.680 do against pump it up? I called your body man 0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:17.799 when I pump it up, So what are you gonna 0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:20.880 I'm not like I said, no, I'm not going to 0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:28.440 argue about p I U why it is what it is? 0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:31.240 You know what I'm saying, Like that's it, but no verses. 0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:34.480 Let's let me see your marian like they right, you 0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:38.400 see j W you want him to do pump it 0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:47.600 up and me to see the ship. I wasn't ready 0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:56.560 with that. That ship. Let's move alight. So I wrapped. 0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:59.720 I wrapped back to back with busting rhymes on tribe 0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:02.000 out him. I'm so to come on like we gotta 0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:07.000 put some respect, like I'm channeling bird Man. I'm channeling 0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:09.600 bird Man. We got we got to you know what 0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:16.640 I'm saying, Like you know that whole situation was love 0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:18.879 and hip hop and hip hop, right, but let's let's 0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:21.640 be real like outside of loving hip hop, like yo, 0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:23.759 if you run through mine? But you know what a 0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:26.680 rhyme though you can't say say I never said I 0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:28.319 told him to a face you could rap. I never 0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:30.879 said Joe can't wrap it. I'm just saying, when you're 0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:35.000 going act, there's a difference between rapping and hits. He 0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:37.840 got a lot of mix tapes, though, so do I. 0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:40.520 I gotta take him to the cleaners. I like this, 0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:42.560 like wh I'm talking so to all, I gotta take 0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:46.279 him to the cleaners. That's the best mixtapes the whole time. 0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:50.280 Like I put Kno More on a mixtape before anybody 0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:56.600 did talk. I got Magmillan mixtape. I got a bunch 0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:59.480 of mixtapes. I got a bunch of hits too, and 0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:04.879 I got three being my awards. Chunky, we respect that 0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:14.520 I wrote. Next. John Legard is rapping on my first album. 0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:18.320 But don't front moved music. Come on, you front the movies. 0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:30.360 You that when I say that was your chef. You know, Queasy, 0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:34.920 I told you what he was gonna be with that. 0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:43.359 You're like women, I'm just trying to look like people 0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:46.400 halfways defend people ain't here. You know. It ain't about defend. 0:36:46.480 --> 0:36:49.120 I just said, yo, yo, it ain't about defend it. 0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:53.399 I know Webbing Nitty personally, those are my man. We will. 0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:54.799 You know what I'm saying. I was the first thing 0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:56.600 in the hood to be able to take nigga to 0:36:56.600 --> 0:36:59.960 the tunnel. You know what I'm saying. I took niggas. Listen, 0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:04.280 Chris Lighty daughter is here. That's my family. I lived 0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:06.560 with Chris Lighty at one point, me and my mom 0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:09.239 doesn't getting along because she didn't understand the whole rap 0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:12.040 dynamic at the time. I'm staying out late. I'm eighteen 0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:15.799 in tribal I'm eighteen in a trial coal quest. They 0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:18.080 got nominated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. 0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:26.719 I am not arguing over nobody's mixed respectable. If we're 0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:30.280 gonna give me my flowers, I like I listen, Listen, 0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:34.160 respect listen. I like potpourri with a dash and daisy. 0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:38.160 Give me mom, Let's give me. Let's give us right, 0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:47.520 Let's give me my flowers. A perfect segments. Guy, we 0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:49.399 don't know if you know our shows about giving people 0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:52.399 the motherfucking flowers. And one thing for sure, to think 0:37:53.160 --> 0:38:01.120 your motherfucker legends and you deserve your said it's like 0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:05.040 win a Grammy, But from your peers it's been like 0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:07.279 you know what, Listen, man, I waited a year to 0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:11.279 do drink chance. You know that what I'm saying. Man, 0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:14.520 You know you know we've definitely been with you to 0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:16.560 put it together for a minute, and you know you 0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:19.640 know I would. I'm the culture at the end of 0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:22.080 the day is all we got, you know, what I mean, Like, 0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:23.480 at the end of the day, I can I can 0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:28.480 win whatever validated accolade that comes from the music business. 0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:31.399 But all you only as good as your last game 0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:34.520 out here, you know what I mean. And we know 0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.759 that we've watched. We watched the game. Washing nig is up. 0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:39.800 You know what I'm saying. Because they didn't stay connected 0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:42.560 to the culture, you know what I mean. So yeah, absolutely, 0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:44.200 I'm taking this home, show this to my son, and 0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:51.200 I'm gonna put this up on the joint. Tell me so. 0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:53.480 At one point like like like like you said you 0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:56.520 were a good music it was I think, and I 0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:59.560 didn't never go at good music. No, you would didn't 0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:02.080 got good knew that they ain'tybody took it away. I am, 0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:08.200 I am thinkin said that's what's that words. Listen at 0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:11.520 the end of the at the end of the day, right, 0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:16.680 you gotta understand that gave everybody a job. I gave 0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:19.520 everybody a job. And what I gave everybody a job 0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:23.320 through my sacrifice? Can you paid them? But I said, 0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:26.200 I got the weals on my back, nigga, feel me. 0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:31.400 So every Father's Day, I'll deserve a card every everyone 0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:33.560 because at my notes, I got You saved Big Sean 0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:39.120 from getting dropped? Yea one of percent? How does this happen? 0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:41.920 They have a meeting they like, but drop on dignity. 0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:43.880 I ain't ever tell no story about Big Sean that 0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:47.000 I know personally. You know what I'm saying. I'm not him, 0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:48.719 And yeah they did, they want to things up here. 0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:50.000 I ain't here to do that with Sean, you know 0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:51.920 what I'm saying. But show was my little Shan was 0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:53.520 my little man when he got sign. You know what 0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:55.880 I'm saying. If you go to YouTube, you'll see Sean 0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:58.600 get introduced as a member of Good Music at my 0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:02.520 show at the Knitted Afterwards, Me Kanye came out of surprise, 0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:06.040 Guests came out of surprise. Guests had Sean and Kid Cutty. 0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:08.240 And that's what they wanted. Like I said, once again, 0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:10.440 to go back to the original point where we got it. 0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:13.000 Like certain people do whatever to get next to yea 0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:15.680 yea John having to be at the radio station. You 0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:17.920 know what I'm saying. But Shawn ain't eat Boston Market 0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:21.680 with Yeah I did. There wasn't no craft services when 0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:24.120 I was around. It wasn't no yeasy, There wasn't no 0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:25.879 none of that half a chicken on the whole chicken. 0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:32.160 Come on, I'm starving a half a chicken en listen 0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:35.279 on even requests. O MA, please just make it. You 0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:37.360 know what I mean? With the breast man, that's it. 0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:39.920 Other than that man, it was that and and in 0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:43.600 the front and in in a trolley magrimony and cheesy 0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:47.520 twenty dollars twenty dollar holiday. You know what I'm saying. 0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:51.720 I watched niggers in Atlanta line up with place motherfucker 0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:55.719 and all the mimosas, and I'm getting up first and 0:40:55.760 --> 0:41:01.320 going to bed last, still twenty years later, putting in 0:41:01.440 --> 0:41:04.320 that work. We got the chip though, I always putting 0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:09.719 the work for the Chip Grammy family. Yeah, goddamn oh no, 0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:18.520 it can be worked with Beyonce. In fact, goddamnit right, 0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:22.640 worked the Beyonce and worked with Faith, So probably one 0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:25.160 of the only mcs that ever worked with Biggie and 0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:28.400 jay Z's wives holler at me. I didn't look at 0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:35.320 it like that, sir, I didn't. And they both were singles. 0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:40.279 They was an album cause stressed out his single number 0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:44.360 one that urban right, I mean, I'm the one nigger 0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:47.960 all right, right? So how do you and I believe 0:41:47.960 --> 0:41:50.719 you call him Kamal, will be honest with you, I'm 0:41:50.760 --> 0:41:53.560 never gonna call him Kamal. His name is q Tip 0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:55.919 to me for the rest of the I'm never calling 0:41:57.520 --> 0:42:04.320 like people calling him talk like who but blah blah. Family. 0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:06.880 You know my mom a family's outside fairly looking at 0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:09.560 But you said, I think he was in mad Camar. 0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:11.879 Excuse me. He was mad at cute Tip one day 0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:14.200 and we was talking and he was like, come on, 0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:18.279 mad at cut more than one day. But I didn't know. 0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:23.359 You know, how did you all as cousins for because 0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:27.040 once again, because we because because of because there's a 0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:31.480 thin line, you know. And and there's definitely I think 0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:37.760 the number one the number one UM emotion for artists, 0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:44.000 um that makes them kind of go, it's disappointment, you know. 0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:48.160 So there's been yeah, one, there's been times that I've 0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:52.080 been disappointed, But there's times that there's the acute tim 0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:55.800 is brought the kind of the kind of opportunities to 0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:59.160 my life that I can't measure even with joy, you 0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:02.680 know what I'm saying. So when y'all that close at 0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:04.799 one time, at one point in my life, my name 0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:07.759 was Ray Tip. That's how close me and me and 0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:12.400 Q Tip are you know so we yeah, we we 0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:15.600 were going through a lot, you know, we you know, 0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:20.120 and took tip credit right, you know Tip. It's funny. 0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:23.000 That's why I mentioned his mom's first and foremost, because 0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:26.840 he said to me, my mom's always knew you was 0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:29.719 the one. You know what I'm saying, you know, and 0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:32.920 now she's she's she's getting older, and um, you know, 0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:35.000 we can't take none of that time for granted. So 0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:37.200 he was like, Yo, you know, definitely comes see man, 0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:40.080 you know what I'm saying, supporting it is important because 0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:43.600 she she she did call that. And so him saying 0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:47.080 that was that you you're the one that she basically 0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:49.239 selling You're the one. He he's the one used to 0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:53.440 take a chance on, you know. So two cute tips 0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:57.520 credit right, Um, without me going in the trial, I 0:43:57.640 --> 0:43:59.919 never meet Kanye, and I never meet Kanye. We don't 0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:05.360 what happens, right because Kanye, you know, I feel like 0:44:05.480 --> 0:44:09.320 Kanye was always gonna Kanye is always gonna be successful. 0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:13.040 He's a successful person, so he understands what it takes 0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:16.640 to be successful. But I do. I mean, he's even 0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:20.000 acknowledged that, you know, and especially in the beginning, you know, 0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:23.640 he and not being around together. You know, it was 0:44:23.840 --> 0:44:27.000 very much. I was very influential in the swag, you 0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:30.080 know what I mean. And so you know how I 0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:32.680 look at it, you know, because I have no I 0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:35.560 don't have any venom unless somebody comes at me. And 0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:40.799 you know that that that comes about because the q tip. 0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:43.759 You know what I'm saying, because you know, if q 0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:47.759 Tim doesn't say, you know what, I'm going to roll 0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:50.600 the dice on this kid. I'm going to regardless of relationship, 0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:52.800 you still gotta be able to hold it. And I 0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:54.879 think q T knew I could hold it. And that's 0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:56.600 what his mom was saying, like she knew I could 0:44:56.640 --> 0:44:58.400 hold it. She's like, I'm telling you give it to him. 0:44:58.400 --> 0:44:59.840 He's gonna be able to hold it. I held it 0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:03.160 for beach round like him. Out of ninety six twenty 0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:06.040 six years, I've held it and and it's been a 0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:08.920 mechanical bull. So it's like you know you hold no, 0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:11.480 you're holding it though, you know what I mean. Um, 0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:15.000 it's so many of my peers that started before me 0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:18.759 or even after me. Um, you know, they don't have 0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:21.440 a they don't have a firm for hole in music, 0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:23.800 they don't do what it seems like for the outside 0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:25.560 looking at it, and sorry to cut you off. It 0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:29.560 seems like when you someone's friends, you someone's friends friend me, yes, 0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:34.080 you friend to the end of one. But if anything happened, 0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:41.400 Nigga's coming down here, just that I'm not seeing. The 0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:44.960 thing is I'm just not a yes sir man. I'm 0:45:45.000 --> 0:45:49.400 not a yes sir. Fall in line, I an't gonna say. 0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:52.520 I ain't yes man. I'll tell yeah, I said, keep 0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:55.640 on the what I'm saying, But I ain't yes sir. 0:45:55.880 --> 0:45:59.840 Bow Nigga hit your head. Now. There's only one now 0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:03.799 about too, and that's the most high. So it don't 0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:07.080 matter when when when they get to a point where 0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:11.879 the most highing involved no more, then it's up. That's 0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:14.160 how I feel, you know what I'm saying. So when 0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:16.680 when we're do an ego, that's not the most high 0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:19.680 nor more are dealing blessings. I felt like when Kanye 0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:23.040 got on you know, I'm Muslim, but I felt like 0:46:23.680 --> 0:46:27.440 his him making Jesus walks was a positive thing and 0:46:27.480 --> 0:46:29.680 a blessing, you know what I'm saying, Because at the 0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:34.000 end of the day, where he was but but and 0:46:34.160 --> 0:46:38.000 and and just the fact of trying to engage a 0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:45.279 mass audience into us, into into us, into the consciousness 0:46:45.320 --> 0:46:48.640 of the soul. So, you know, because at the end 0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:50.040 of the day, you just don't know who you touch 0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:52.719 when you do music. So when you have a good intention, 0:46:53.200 --> 0:46:56.719 I feel like God will open doors for you, you 0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:59.360 know what I mean? And I still believe that to 0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:03.520 this day, you know what I'm saying. Um, and so yeah, yeah, 0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:06.239 so when it when when they turn, when they get 0:47:06.400 --> 0:47:11.200 ungodly like it's like snakey vibes, I don't I don't know. 0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:13.239 I just want to fall out with their cousin though, 0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:17.680 because if anybody could, anybody, anybody could fall victims of 0:47:17.719 --> 0:47:21.880 snakey vibes. The industry did it? Is it like the industry? 0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:28.200 I mean, I mean it wasn't over things giving. We 0:47:28.239 --> 0:47:31.120 don't have a problem over mass potatoes. You know what 0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:34.200 I'm saying. We had we had you know, you know, 0:47:34.320 --> 0:47:37.960 there's a you know at the end of the day. Um, 0:47:39.719 --> 0:47:43.440 what you know, my thing is like in this platform, 0:47:44.480 --> 0:47:47.040 both Nor and I have worked with the trialal question, right, 0:47:47.480 --> 0:47:51.480 so it would be who either one of us to 0:47:51.560 --> 0:47:55.800 have a conversation about you tipping a negative connotation. I 0:47:55.960 --> 0:47:58.319 just feel like we've got we've had to go through 0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:01.000 things that we've gone through. We going through those things, 0:48:01.480 --> 0:48:04.000 you know, to Tip of the Elder Statesman and hip hop, 0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:07.280 and you know, he deserves his prophecy and he deserves 0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:11.040 his regard absolutely. Like um, one of my favorite styles 0:48:11.080 --> 0:48:15.160 of movies documentaries, and one of the things that stood 0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:17.920 out to me was I always heard of as room 0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:21.000 was like you hear about Ray Fawn and ghost Face beefing, 0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:24.680 or might hear about Prodigy and you know having beefing, 0:48:25.080 --> 0:48:27.399 like we this is always the room of hearing about 0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:30.640 like Q Tip and fight relationship or like how like 0:48:30.719 --> 0:48:32.800 it was kind of like, you know, shaky. But that 0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:37.920 documentary was I think Michael Reportport and Um, that documentary 0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:40.720 was my first time because because when me and polished 0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:42.400 the beef, I just think that was just me and Bone. 0:48:42.440 --> 0:48:44.320 I just be like, yo, know, I mean the groups 0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:46.880 gets along. And when I see this and I was 0:48:46.960 --> 0:48:49.000 like it was two things. One, I was like, wow, 0:48:49.040 --> 0:48:51.880 I thought the Tropical questions perfect people and like and 0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:54.040 this was like the first time I seen them be human, 0:48:54.320 --> 0:48:57.520 and too it related to my own struggle. I was like, damn, 0:48:58.160 --> 0:49:01.320 I wasn't doing first Yeah, so so so. But you 0:49:01.480 --> 0:49:04.040 as an insider, you've been knew that their relationship was 0:49:04.040 --> 0:49:06.640 a little shaky. Damn for how long you think that 0:49:06.840 --> 0:49:10.280 was going on for along? For since our joint tribal 0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:15.319 or what year you say they were going through They 0:49:15.400 --> 0:49:19.520 went through problems after midnight marauders like they all And 0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:23.600 it's so one thing I'm definitely gonna say is like 0:49:24.880 --> 0:49:28.480 you know, and this isn't to blame I don't you 0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:30.480 know what, I'm not gonna say that like that at 0:49:30.520 --> 0:49:34.120 the end of the day, right as as two men 0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:39.040 who who who who were like brothers, never lead never lead, 0:49:39.880 --> 0:49:45.200 um anything or anyone compromised that or blind that bit 0:49:45.560 --> 0:49:48.680 o blind your site to to the bigger picture, you 0:49:48.719 --> 0:49:53.440 know what I'm saying, Like in hindsight, it was so unnecessary, 0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:57.399 would cause the riff, but but but it was understandable, 0:49:57.440 --> 0:50:00.560 you know what I'm saying. Like I found out about 0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:04.880 the issue in Atlanta at Fight's house. So I have 0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:10.400 been going to the studio for let's say we started 0:50:10.760 --> 0:50:17.239 recording Beach round the Life February of right, um, so 0:50:17.440 --> 0:50:24.960 by July August of is when I overheard a conversation 0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:29.640 with Fife and True Boys cousin Fudge who he you know, 0:50:29.920 --> 0:50:32.360 god less day he passed away. They were having a 0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:37.080 conversation and basically Fudge it was like, yeah, I don't 0:50:37.120 --> 0:50:40.520 fun with cute to funk that nigga and I initially 0:50:40.560 --> 0:50:43.440 I was like, fuck you talking about you know what 0:50:43.480 --> 0:50:46.480 I'm saying, Like who funk you talking about? Like who 0:50:46.600 --> 0:50:51.239 you think you is? Who? Like so as so initially 0:50:51.480 --> 0:50:54.920 like and you know I'm outnumbered. I'm in a career. 0:50:54.960 --> 0:50:56.920 I mean, fight for it. Fight I don't you know, 0:50:57.080 --> 0:51:01.120 I fight? But how the funny thing like I said 0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:04.600 that at the fielding, like I ended up coming down there, um, 0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:09.080 just on a whim. He invited me to come to 0:51:09.160 --> 0:51:12.600 Atlanta for the Boer Superfest that year, so we was all, 0:51:12.960 --> 0:51:14.960 you know, we're having a good time, but we really 0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:17.080 was just kind of getting to know each other like that, 0:51:17.239 --> 0:51:18.719 like that, you know what I'm saying. So when home 0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:21.120 he said it, I was like, you know, I automatically 0:51:21.239 --> 0:51:27.879 to his fight man fight yeah plug plus yeah yeah 0:51:27.920 --> 0:51:31.360 trueoy was truely true gooy cousins. So he said the 0:51:31.440 --> 0:51:35.800 ship and it was already kind of like a funny 0:51:36.040 --> 0:51:39.120 vibe a little bit in the native tongues at that time. 0:51:39.680 --> 0:51:47.120 Because tribe shot to mainstream, critical acclaim and success, they 0:51:47.200 --> 0:51:50.920 was able to be successful. Day Lie you know, shot 0:51:50.960 --> 0:51:53.759 out the gate mainstream and they kind of was maintaining 0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:57.000 that through the next two hour stakes is high in 0:51:57.040 --> 0:51:59.480 the balloon mon State Days saw his dead and and 0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:03.239 and three behind Roser was successful, you know, as we're 0:52:03.280 --> 0:52:06.000 moving on. So they kind of shot out and then 0:52:06.080 --> 0:52:12.600 started blacktowing right try kind of started. They started Elsa Gando, 0:52:12.880 --> 0:52:15.239 then got Timpannita, but he did smash. Then they get 0:52:15.280 --> 0:52:16.920 to can't I kick it? Can I kick it? The smash? 0:52:17.120 --> 0:52:19.160 Then they get the long sum. There was their first single, 0:52:20.040 --> 0:52:23.759 one of the first his video definitely first videos else gone. 0:52:24.320 --> 0:52:25.839 I think they might have it is the Pace come 0:52:25.840 --> 0:52:28.759 out or something. Everybody you know, and and and they 0:52:28.800 --> 0:52:32.240 were on Buddy right, so they were like, so Jungle 0:52:33.400 --> 0:52:36.840 Jungle was the first Jungle Brothers the first out. Jungle 0:52:36.920 --> 0:52:42.200 was the first one. We're gonna want through a psychopleedia. 0:52:43.719 --> 0:52:46.719 My city is on my cities as he's saying that, 0:52:46.800 --> 0:52:49.560 That's why I said, wait a minute, okay, the first 0:52:49.640 --> 0:52:54.359 remember remember Africa's and Living Lords the movie, right, they 0:52:54.440 --> 0:52:56.640 got Girl out House shooting guy a thin. Jungle Brothers 0:52:56.719 --> 0:52:58.840 is worldwide. You know what I'm saying, what with the 0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:02.200 cold following Jungle Brothers like like like it's like eight 0:53:02.560 --> 0:53:05.960 eight eight Grisella. Right, but they got radio records though 0:53:05.960 --> 0:53:15.279 to because they got a girl of househ stuff, which 0:53:15.320 --> 0:53:17.600 is not about what I'm saying. Is like when I 0:53:17.680 --> 0:53:21.640 say they Grisella because they got the show aspect I'm 0:53:21.640 --> 0:53:25.520 talking about Nigga stref not not not night karm. Grisella 0:53:25.560 --> 0:53:29.000 trip is the packed house, right, they got niggas coming 0:53:29.040 --> 0:53:31.600 to na ship. Right, So Jungle Brothers the same ship, 0:53:31.880 --> 0:53:34.120 you know what I'm saying. So then but they ever 0:53:34.360 --> 0:53:37.239 they are able to appall it in the movies and 0:53:37.560 --> 0:53:40.640 and you know red alerts their uncle, red alerts, my 0:53:40.719 --> 0:53:43.040 gene uncle. You know what I'm saying. So they on 0:53:43.160 --> 0:53:45.520 the raiding, they start at the radio, but with them 0:53:45.600 --> 0:53:50.880 call of joints. Right, So Trivis is the dird And 0:53:51.360 --> 0:53:54.400 also remember like you had dressed up dress popping in 0:53:54.480 --> 0:53:59.839 with choices yours right in law, got um got ladies, 0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:01.640 you know what I'm saying. So it's so it's a 0:54:01.760 --> 0:54:05.040 it's a it's a black men Daniel wave. Right. So 0:54:05.200 --> 0:54:10.319 then the thing is, but that it gets it hits 0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:14.040 the ceiling right and then try transitions. They take off 0:54:14.719 --> 0:54:17.680 the dais, they get on some Linda ship. You know 0:54:17.680 --> 0:54:20.359 what I'm saying, check the ram check them y'all back 0:54:20.400 --> 0:54:23.640 in the days on the bulletboard, right, saying that on 0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:31.279 the radio. Right then, scenario it's check the rom it's 0:54:31.760 --> 0:54:35.160 we got the jazz. It's directing the fact beef. It's 0:54:35.200 --> 0:54:41.120 scenario Yeah, yeah, you wanted but saying you know what 0:54:41.160 --> 0:54:44.120 I'm saying. So so I'm just saying that it comes 0:54:44.120 --> 0:54:47.239 to trying and lay down a chronological order. So when 0:54:47.280 --> 0:54:52.840 you get to that conversation, there's all that baggage looming. 0:54:53.200 --> 0:54:56.520 That's all that energy is looming. Because now I come 0:54:56.560 --> 0:54:58.879 into this and I don't know none of this ship. 0:54:59.040 --> 0:55:01.000 I'm a shorty, you know what I'm saying. I know 0:55:01.239 --> 0:55:05.640 about the beef. Obviously that's my family. We the block 0:55:05.719 --> 0:55:08.200 went up with the block was with tip on that one, 0:55:08.600 --> 0:55:14.960 beef not not. Yeah, the blockers in't on that right. 0:55:15.040 --> 0:55:18.279 You know what I'm saying. Ship got crazy right right 0:55:18.480 --> 0:55:20.359 right right here? Then yeah, he had to patch of ship. 0:55:20.640 --> 0:55:21.840 You know what I'm saying, Like that ship was a 0:55:21.960 --> 0:55:25.960 real wait what they're gonna fight it. Yeah, they gotta fight. 0:55:26.320 --> 0:55:29.319 Prince Pope from Organiztic Fusion was getting jumped at LA 0:55:29.480 --> 0:55:32.879 Music Hall jumped in. They already had the problem, Uh, 0:55:33.360 --> 0:55:35.759 stricky hardcore rap, not a new Jack swing. They had 0:55:35.800 --> 0:55:38.840 a conversation with Fight you know what I'm saying. So 0:55:39.200 --> 0:55:43.839 so that's the rule of the the problem, God bless 0:55:43.880 --> 0:55:47.680 the dead. Fight said what he said, Tip, ain't the 0:55:47.800 --> 0:55:50.400 run of it. That's gonna be a problem. What did 0:55:50.440 --> 0:55:54.439 fight to say? I mean, fight man, fight man, fight Beho, 0:55:54.600 --> 0:55:57.600 nobody over it. We know that you know what I'm saying. 0:55:57.960 --> 0:55:59.719 What he said, He said that when we got the 0:55:59.760 --> 0:56:05.000 jam strictly hardcore rapping Teddy Rowley and took a fence 0:56:05.040 --> 0:56:07.680 to that. I thought Q Tips said that we just 0:56:07.800 --> 0:56:11.879 na said what I'm saying. And then that's how cute 0:56:12.120 --> 0:56:15.000 had does nah. So once again, like I said, if 0:56:15.040 --> 0:56:18.320 five story is he's seen Rex in the fact and 0:56:18.400 --> 0:56:21.200 v A. They had a conversation about it. They put 0:56:21.239 --> 0:56:23.880 it on ice. Then it was a show fast for 0:56:23.920 --> 0:56:25.879 a couple of months. They there's a short Radio City 0:56:25.960 --> 0:56:29.200 Music Hall trials back they've seen Rex in effect again 0:56:29.640 --> 0:56:32.600 whatever whatever, Now what happened was Rex in effect used 0:56:32.600 --> 0:56:34.480 the room Posse d you know what I'm saying. The 0:56:34.520 --> 0:56:36.839 Posse Deep Niggas was in the lobby and they got 0:56:36.880 --> 0:56:39.920 into it with prins Poe from Organized Confusion Tip for 0:56:40.000 --> 0:56:44.040 some reason whatever wanted and seeing them jumping Prince Poe 0:56:44.680 --> 0:56:47.399 and got into it, and then Posse Deep Niggas like, well, 0:56:47.480 --> 0:56:50.480 you know what, you know what I mean, confusions for 0:56:50.560 --> 0:56:52.759 forty projects right right, one of the same. So it 0:56:52.880 --> 0:56:55.480 was like he's seen the Queen nigga when I was 0:56:56.120 --> 0:56:57.920 you know what I'm saying. So yeah, so that's what 0:56:58.120 --> 0:57:00.239 that's what happened. So what happened was the reason I 0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:02.200 ain't had the black eyes because this is what one 0:57:02.200 --> 0:57:03.960 of the Kniggs had a ring on called him in 0:57:04.000 --> 0:57:07.239 the eye. That then seized up the renda and he 0:57:07.320 --> 0:57:08.640 did the video here to do the video and you 0:57:08.719 --> 0:57:11.840 put the patron damn forgot about all this ship, you 0:57:11.920 --> 0:57:14.319 know what I'm saying. So so I'm just saying all 0:57:14.360 --> 0:57:16.640 that to say this is no slander. Just's just just 0:57:17.120 --> 0:57:21.400 just so there's clarity. When a lot had happened, a 0:57:21.520 --> 0:57:25.800 lot of tipisode so so, and a lot continued to happen. 0:57:25.840 --> 0:57:28.560 So by the time I'm having this conversation, they feel 0:57:28.640 --> 0:57:32.360 justified to say that, even though they they when I 0:57:32.400 --> 0:57:35.640 say they it's fudge and fire. They feel justified and 0:57:35.680 --> 0:57:38.040 they start explaining to me, waf is fu tip. You 0:57:38.080 --> 0:57:40.280 know what I'm saying, Nigga did this saying my girl, 0:57:40.360 --> 0:57:43.720 but I who I whoa right took this girl? You 0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:47.440 try to slide that day before the d M. It 0:57:47.560 --> 0:57:51.479 was the toll bus talking about the toll bus cars. 0:57:52.240 --> 0:57:54.280 I'm saying before the d M, niggas was sliding the 0:57:54.360 --> 0:57:57.560 toll bus. Not mean closes, you know what I mean 0:57:58.480 --> 0:58:00.520 it sai you know you may gotta only pieces. So 0:58:00.560 --> 0:58:04.720 he slid shorty back back you know, uh with the 0:58:04.800 --> 0:58:08.840 current and this is like on a documentary. Oh yeah, 0:58:08.880 --> 0:58:11.640 I leaving back there right, Nigga slide on the tool bus. 0:58:18.160 --> 0:58:23.000 Continue No, I mean so I guess the front man 0:58:23.080 --> 0:58:29.920 to trial. He was skinning right, sliding, sliding right. I 0:58:29.960 --> 0:58:33.720 should have caught down slide, you know, I mean, so 0:58:34.200 --> 0:58:37.680 you know, you know, Homi feel like you know it's 0:58:37.760 --> 0:58:40.080 things like the nigger got along, like what's over in 0:58:40.120 --> 0:58:41.680 your camp and you see seems front your b is 0:58:41.720 --> 0:58:46.600 going crazy, right, so nobody nobody in that position feel 0:58:46.640 --> 0:58:48.680 like a nigga is gonna be able to slide day, bitch. 0:58:49.560 --> 0:58:55.680 So when they bit slide, it's like I mean to 0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:59.600 be slid what he now somebody wants they can beat 0:58:59.600 --> 0:59:03.280 for all this bitch. Nigga holes legacy is over a 0:59:03.400 --> 0:59:07.360 bitch and track pains that was in Norty by Nature video. Nigga, Like, 0:59:07.600 --> 0:59:10.960 you gotta be kidding me, man, knock it off, tell 0:59:10.960 --> 0:59:13.920 you some lender ship. Everybody winding was like, knocked that 0:59:13.920 --> 0:59:18.480 ship off. Facts, not man, because it's been when a 0:59:18.520 --> 0:59:22.200 bit she ain't no went around. They ain't no where around. 0:59:22.240 --> 0:59:24.120 I ain't even see that fight funeral god, but the 0:59:24.240 --> 0:59:29.320 dead facts. So that was worth me hearing them. Nigga 0:59:29.360 --> 0:59:32.439 say any of that. Nah, somebody see the thing about 0:59:32.520 --> 0:59:34.080 one thing about me and Kanye. I'm gonna keep it 0:59:34.080 --> 0:59:36.960 a being. No matter what we ever went through, somebody 0:59:37.560 --> 0:59:40.600 lower their wing, and whether it was yeah, yeah, whether 0:59:40.600 --> 0:59:46.439 it was me, you ain't suck each other's bitches neither cold. 0:59:46.480 --> 0:59:48.720 You go get Kim kardash In, Bro. I heard you 0:59:48.720 --> 0:59:50.520 just dropping off the hotel and all that I heard 0:59:50.520 --> 0:59:53.800 about the name. You know it's my nigga, and they 0:59:53.960 --> 0:59:55.880 never gonna be nothing. He's like you said, you said 0:59:55.960 --> 0:59:58.320 you're the most loyal nigger. You would Yeah, so they 0:59:58.320 --> 1:00:01.080 ain't gonna never be nothing like. That's my nigga I want. 1:00:01.400 --> 1:00:03.680 I want my nigga is happy. I want my nigga 1:00:03.720 --> 1:00:05.840 is to thrive. You know what I'm saying, Ain't no, 1:00:06.080 --> 1:00:08.600 ain't no. You know what I'm saying on my end, 1:00:08.800 --> 1:00:10.800 I ain't never had to do that. I always before 1:00:11.400 --> 1:00:15.640 before Rap, before Rap and I in high school, all 1:00:15.760 --> 1:00:19.200 that ship before Rap I was doing me. Man, Cause 1:00:19.280 --> 1:00:21.680 let's be clear, because like what you're saying now is 1:00:21.920 --> 1:00:27.080 very heavy metal because it's basically he basically said that 1:00:27.200 --> 1:00:29.000 the reason why I try I broke up, the reason 1:00:29.080 --> 1:00:35.200 why Tip and five's problem was initially over a y'all 1:00:35.280 --> 1:00:39.120 and y'all we've never heard. In addition to that, to 1:00:39.240 --> 1:00:43.960 the to that altercation after that, after the fight, one 1:00:44.000 --> 1:00:45.400 of was that. And that's why I ain't really fun 1:00:45.480 --> 1:00:49.000 with the Michael Rapport ship because I said that definitely. 1:00:49.520 --> 1:00:52.400 I say it again. I mean, Michael Rapport pay me 1:00:52.600 --> 1:00:54.520 more than when he was gonna supposed to pay anybody 1:00:54.560 --> 1:00:56.720 because I told him I ain't sunk with that, like 1:00:57.040 --> 1:00:59.560 because at the end of the day, nobody should have 1:00:59.640 --> 1:01:02.240 ever so that there was a problem. You know what 1:01:02.240 --> 1:01:04.400 I'm saying, if niggas got past it, but it never 1:01:04.600 --> 1:01:07.840 never got past it. And the truth if you never 1:01:07.920 --> 1:01:10.800 got past it. I told Fife, we I never got 1:01:10.880 --> 1:01:13.160 the Finnish Atlanta story. So Fifer telling me all this 1:01:13.240 --> 1:01:16.880 ship like yo, he did boom boom boom boom boom. Right, 1:01:16.960 --> 1:01:20.080 I'm eighteen. It's not my best interest to tell Fife 1:01:20.360 --> 1:01:23.760 any advice, right because I don't have a record deal. 1:01:23.840 --> 1:01:25.960 My record deal was cue Tip. Know what I'm saying. 1:01:26.760 --> 1:01:28.160 So at the end of the day, I didn't get 1:01:28.160 --> 1:01:29.959 to an advance. You I ain't get nough. I told Fife, 1:01:30.080 --> 1:01:31.800 I said, Yo, if you can't funk with that man, 1:01:32.360 --> 1:01:35.560 leave that man alone. My grandfather told me, never put 1:01:35.640 --> 1:01:39.840 crime in another nigger hand. If you don't funk with 1:01:39.920 --> 1:01:43.160 a nigga, don't funk with him, because if you don't 1:01:43.200 --> 1:01:45.880 funk with him and he fucked you over, you put 1:01:45.960 --> 1:01:50.040 criming that man. You know what I mean, Russell, piece 1:01:50.080 --> 1:01:52.360 of slim Turner, You know what I mean? Like, that's 1:01:52.440 --> 1:01:54.360 what it is. You can't do that, you know what 1:01:54.400 --> 1:01:56.760 I'm saying. Fight. At the time, he had the Lost 1:01:56.840 --> 1:02:04.680 Moon shit out he had he had, so it wasn't 1:02:04.720 --> 1:02:08.240 like he could have yo yo so low. You know 1:02:08.240 --> 1:02:10.360 what I'm saying, go so if you ain't gonna fun 1:02:10.440 --> 1:02:11.800 with it, if you don't, if you if it's that 1:02:12.000 --> 1:02:15.240 serious for you, why And I'm not saying to leave 1:02:15.400 --> 1:02:18.840 his group that's because that's that wasn't what I was 1:02:18.880 --> 1:02:20.080 trying to say. What I was trying to say is 1:02:20.400 --> 1:02:25.160 as a man, right, I can't you acting like you 1:02:25.280 --> 1:02:27.800 can you can be with somebody who you can't really 1:02:27.920 --> 1:02:31.680 be with. Like sometimes with different niggas, you need to 1:02:31.760 --> 1:02:33.800 give the nigger space. But if you're trying to hold 1:02:33.840 --> 1:02:36.200 the group ship, you got two choices. Put it to 1:02:36.280 --> 1:02:39.640 the side. Put it to the side, or this is 1:02:39.680 --> 1:02:41.959 gonna explode in your face. You know what I'm saying. 1:02:42.000 --> 1:02:45.120 And I think the ladder wound up happening, even even 1:02:45.160 --> 1:02:48.080 if the trials of life, you know, like you know, 1:02:48.560 --> 1:02:50.320 it was a better sweet for me because I didn't 1:02:50.360 --> 1:02:54.040 have that. I didn't. I didn't. I was looked at 1:02:54.120 --> 1:02:57.080 like I thought the chemistry I didn't funk, no chemistry 1:02:57.200 --> 1:03:00.400 up when they added you to because you because I 1:03:00.440 --> 1:03:03.320 was on so many records that it was perceived like 1:03:04.120 --> 1:03:06.760 you gotta thinks like it was proceeding. And I understand 1:03:06.800 --> 1:03:10.600 the perception, right, because when you got something that you love, right, 1:03:11.200 --> 1:03:16.800 and let's say you're a kid, right and you order 1:03:16.840 --> 1:03:20.000 a happy meal, right and instead of a hamburgers, a 1:03:20.040 --> 1:03:24.360 pastrami sandwich with fries in there. Yo, I asked for this. 1:03:25.360 --> 1:03:27.360 I don't get before what toy isn't it? None of that, Like, 1:03:27.480 --> 1:03:31.000 that's not what I ordered, So by by by by 1:03:31.440 --> 1:03:34.560 midnight Maradas tried was a happy meal. To the public. 1:03:34.640 --> 1:03:36.840 It was like the burger, the fries, the toy to 1:03:36.960 --> 1:03:40.720 drink right, right. They knew what they were getting and 1:03:40.840 --> 1:03:43.480 so when they got beatrons of life, it was like 1:03:44.440 --> 1:03:48.040 a roast beef and cheese with potato chips at McDonald's 1:03:48.320 --> 1:03:52.080 doesn't make sense and a shake I'm other ship on myself. 1:03:53.280 --> 1:03:59.160 It's still good though later, but it when once you 1:03:59.200 --> 1:04:01.640 finally taste it, but you gotta go through the initial 1:04:01.920 --> 1:04:05.760 shot opening the box. Just ain't what I ordered. We 1:04:05.840 --> 1:04:07.800 just scruntled at first, right, You're gotta be just growing 1:04:07.840 --> 1:04:09.760 up at first, and then with the backlash of beach 1:04:09.880 --> 1:04:11.960 rounds of life, and that was unfair to me because 1:04:11.960 --> 1:04:13.720 I didn't know none of this. Ship walking in a 1:04:13.880 --> 1:04:16.080 right You know what I'm saying. I wouldn't even had 1:04:16.160 --> 1:04:19.280 I known. That's why when we did the last Trial album, 1:04:19.840 --> 1:04:22.800 I didn't do nine nine songs. I was like, and 1:04:22.880 --> 1:04:24.720 I didn't mean to do the six that I was on, 1:04:25.320 --> 1:04:28.400 but it was more like I was just you know, 1:04:28.920 --> 1:04:31.720 my shot was hot, so I couldn't stop it. You 1:04:31.760 --> 1:04:34.280 know what I'm saying. Everybody in the group was cool, 1:04:34.360 --> 1:04:37.040 what you're doing that many songs? Man, that's loaded? Man 1:04:41.440 --> 1:04:45.200 at a cigarette before you shootin't my last last? You know? 1:04:45.400 --> 1:04:47.920 They would come on, man, you know the stories, and 1:04:48.440 --> 1:04:52.120 you know that the story we gotta hear her. Bust 1:04:52.480 --> 1:04:55.840 was officially added to Trial called Members this last album 1:04:56.760 --> 1:04:59.680 the last Yeah, Man, come on, man, come on man, 1:04:59.760 --> 1:05:07.360 you falling out on me? Man? Look, hey, hey, hey, 1:05:08.240 --> 1:05:13.960 you're not just talking to everybody. I already know, but 1:05:14.080 --> 1:05:18.360 they know y'all got the guns. Look at the end 1:05:18.400 --> 1:05:26.560 of the day, right, Um, you answer your question first 1:05:26.600 --> 1:05:28.280 and I'll go back to yours. Was a little longer 1:05:28.320 --> 1:05:37.440 to explain for Busts concern. So last album, Yes, yes, 1:05:37.600 --> 1:05:45.240 Buster was a member of Tribe UM and obviously so 1:05:45.520 --> 1:05:53.640 was I UM and you know the the zeal behind 1:05:53.960 --> 1:05:58.960 everything was to celebrate Fife and his life. You know 1:05:58.960 --> 1:06:02.040 what I'm saying, I was the bigger picture. You know, obviously, 1:06:03.280 --> 1:06:08.560 I think people need to understand, um, there's going to 1:06:08.640 --> 1:06:11.120 be behind the scenes things that makes sense. Don't make 1:06:11.160 --> 1:06:13.280 sense to have to get ironed out so focused on 1:06:13.720 --> 1:06:15.880 but as the final product guest Busted was a member 1:06:15.920 --> 1:06:17.919 of the last member of Trial for the last album. 1:06:18.160 --> 1:06:20.240 He definitely was do that, you know what I'm saying. 1:06:20.480 --> 1:06:24.600 He has always been a standout performing when it came 1:06:24.640 --> 1:06:28.280 to Tribe Records. He's always he's always been around. He's 1:06:28.320 --> 1:06:30.520 been around us as long as I'm you know, as 1:06:30.560 --> 1:06:32.240 long as I'm you know, as long as I'm known, 1:06:33.040 --> 1:06:35.000 as long as we've been like rapping, like Bust have 1:06:35.040 --> 1:06:36.960 been around Bust that had the path finder coming to 1:06:37.040 --> 1:06:40.640 Linden Busted me, Busted smoke when I was one time 1:06:40.680 --> 1:06:43.200 when I did smoke, it was what I with smokele Bus. 1:06:43.560 --> 1:06:46.640 You know what I'm saying, it's my manner ship. And 1:06:50.360 --> 1:06:53.280 for being inducted in the trial called question Hall of Fame, 1:06:53.360 --> 1:06:59.880 how about that? Yeah, that queens like that group miss 1:07:00.000 --> 1:07:03.320 so much to us to drive and I don't think 1:07:03.320 --> 1:07:06.720 I've ever like publicly like other than like when you 1:07:06.960 --> 1:07:10.240 was was was going through yours with with with your family. 1:07:10.480 --> 1:07:13.960 I don't think i've ever heard somebody publicly discribed but 1:07:14.120 --> 1:07:18.720 I need distrobe. I'll never described as a group. I'm 1:07:18.760 --> 1:07:21.360 never distruck because I'll come from truck at you right. 1:07:21.440 --> 1:07:23.480 You know what I'm saying. I had a discrepancy what 1:07:23.600 --> 1:07:26.320 you said at a certain point. I mean, I'm never 1:07:27.640 --> 1:07:29.840 Jerobi wasn't in the group when I was there. So 1:07:29.920 --> 1:07:33.080 I want to ask my next question. That's my crazy 1:07:33.240 --> 1:07:42.120 don't set now. You cannot have a water here? Take 1:07:42.200 --> 1:07:46.080 my last water? You sure you want those champade maybe later? 1:07:46.240 --> 1:07:48.200 You know what I mean. I can't do it celebrate you. 1:07:48.360 --> 1:07:57.240 I can't. We got a champagne Japanese there. You'll wet 1:07:57.880 --> 1:07:59.280 for you to take a shot. You know what I'm saying, 1:07:59.400 --> 1:08:03.280 because I did it. Here's your question. And we were 1:08:03.320 --> 1:08:05.360 talking about right now to get back to it. But 1:08:05.520 --> 1:08:09.120 I didn't hear. That's how you, I believe, yeah, or 1:08:09.280 --> 1:08:11.480 you and Tip worked it out one time you went 1:08:11.520 --> 1:08:18.479 to the studio and drink some Hennessey when you went 1:08:18.520 --> 1:08:20.759 to this is the boblo. I work out my problems 1:08:20.880 --> 1:08:24.760 via wire transferring, Okay, my bad, sir. I respect that 1:08:25.840 --> 1:08:31.000 we talk about before. That was talking before. So defense 1:08:31.240 --> 1:08:35.000 um question was was the other two was? The other 1:08:35.160 --> 1:08:37.240 was the members of the group, okay with me being 1:08:37.280 --> 1:08:41.880 in the group into honestly answer your question, though they weren't. 1:08:42.000 --> 1:08:44.840 At least he didn't like it. So you know, it 1:08:44.920 --> 1:08:48.840 was like it he didn't like, he didn't. It wasn't 1:08:48.880 --> 1:08:50.559 that he didn't like it, And it wasn't that Ali 1:08:50.640 --> 1:08:52.800 didn't get with it. I mean me, Ali have a 1:08:53.600 --> 1:08:56.840 I've had a long relationship just together, just as just 1:08:57.040 --> 1:09:02.040 outside of tribe. Um. So um. I would never sit 1:09:02.120 --> 1:09:04.880 here and say I'm not here to bad mouth all 1:09:04.920 --> 1:09:08.160 lead you know. Once again, you know you know that's 1:09:08.200 --> 1:09:11.360 a that's older that's my older brother. What I'm saying, 1:09:11.479 --> 1:09:17.479 so um, he's um, he's always he's you know, I mean, look, 1:09:17.640 --> 1:09:19.880 it's it's it's it's um. It's not an easy thing 1:09:19.960 --> 1:09:23.080 to protect your own vested interests and then look out 1:09:23.160 --> 1:09:27.320 for somebody, right, like, let's just be honest, right, Like 1:09:28.080 --> 1:09:33.519 that's almost counterproductive to business, you know, because business is 1:09:33.560 --> 1:09:38.200 not a handout thing. Business is business, right, So it's 1:09:38.280 --> 1:09:42.519 it takes a lot, and I've always tried to take 1:09:42.640 --> 1:09:46.680 that road as far as anything is concerned, because to 1:09:46.960 --> 1:09:51.200 go from a fourth to a third, back to a fourth, 1:09:51.680 --> 1:09:53.320 and in the fourth and a half because your man 1:09:53.400 --> 1:09:56.840 mad about the new fourth, that ain't that's gonna be 1:09:57.240 --> 1:09:59.960 a conversation at being minimum, you know what I'm saying. 1:10:00.040 --> 1:10:05.839 And because when I came into tribe, it was queens, 1:10:05.880 --> 1:10:10.120 get the money, you know I mean, So when opportunities 1:10:10.200 --> 1:10:12.360 came my way, it was queens, get the money. It 1:10:12.520 --> 1:10:15.760 wasn't queen's playing around. It was queens, get the money. 1:10:15.920 --> 1:10:18.240 You know what I'm saying. I got stressed out because 1:10:18.280 --> 1:10:21.360 it was queens get the money, you know what I mean. Um, 1:10:22.680 --> 1:10:28.599 And so queens get the money is can be threatening. Also, 1:10:28.840 --> 1:10:31.200 it could be a little threatening because it feels like 1:10:32.560 --> 1:10:35.600 Nick taking over your block. And you're absolutely right, and 1:10:35.720 --> 1:10:38.320 Nick's taking over your block, you know what I'm saying. 1:10:38.960 --> 1:10:42.960 And and and let somebody stop him. It's not gonna 1:10:43.000 --> 1:10:47.960 stop you know what I mean. And you know, for them, 1:10:49.120 --> 1:10:52.760 they platinum at this point, it's a platinum block. It's 1:10:52.800 --> 1:10:54.560 not it's not a hole in them all. It's not 1:10:55.240 --> 1:10:58.240 you know what I mean, It's not somebody mom's dirty, 1:10:58.560 --> 1:11:01.760 dirty attic or whatever. And they're banging up nigga, these 1:11:01.800 --> 1:11:05.600 niggas over the world, not the place, the world, you 1:11:05.640 --> 1:11:08.280 know what I mean. And to have some money from 1:11:08.360 --> 1:11:10.120 Lynda bullet Ward come to do what I did was 1:11:10.800 --> 1:11:13.920 on my behalf. It was amazing, and for them it 1:11:14.120 --> 1:11:18.800 was you know, it's understandable. It's an understandable and understandable tribulation. 1:11:20.240 --> 1:11:24.639 So not not but no, you know, I think eventually 1:11:24.800 --> 1:11:28.000 got used to the idea, and I think eventually I 1:11:28.080 --> 1:11:30.759 earned their respect because they saw that it was queens 1:11:30.800 --> 1:11:33.479 get the money. You know what I'm saying. Um, But 1:11:33.800 --> 1:11:36.800 initially I probably wouldn't like me join the triumph. They 1:11:37.800 --> 1:11:40.439 was one of them, just to be honest, all human emotion. 1:11:40.640 --> 1:11:42.280 What I was really trying to get to is who 1:11:42.400 --> 1:11:44.599 had the final word for you to be in the group. 1:11:44.640 --> 1:11:53.720 Who put me in the group? Absolutely, Don Cross. I 1:11:53.840 --> 1:12:01.800 was right mind Diana like this thing that ship take 1:12:01.880 --> 1:12:10.439 back and break back. So during the pandemic, I've seen 1:12:10.520 --> 1:12:13.200 a video that you put up. It's called lost a million. 1:12:15.000 --> 1:12:21.160 What's that about? I mean, uh, it was therapy for 1:12:21.280 --> 1:12:26.120 me being sick um pandemic. I got diagnosed with U 1:12:27.760 --> 1:12:32.519 S L E. Lucas and type type one diabetes and 1:12:32.640 --> 1:12:35.760 it kind of it kind of rocked me, just to 1:12:35.840 --> 1:12:39.040 be honest, you know, and dropped down like a hundred 1:12:39.080 --> 1:12:44.280 and seven pounds, and you know, doctors basically told me 1:12:45.439 --> 1:12:48.400 if I did take certain for certain measurements that it 1:12:48.520 --> 1:12:51.960 was it was. It was, you know, it's gonna be real, Gilmore, 1:12:52.600 --> 1:12:56.040 I'm come to give more funeral homes. So, um, so 1:12:56.160 --> 1:12:57.800 I did what I had to do. So, I mean 1:12:58.000 --> 1:13:01.240 in the video it's just me. It was just it 1:13:01.400 --> 1:13:03.599 was a record that I used just to start working 1:13:03.680 --> 1:13:09.200 myself back back to back to life. Honestly, you know 1:13:10.160 --> 1:13:13.080 that that part of the roller coaster wasn't fun. Uh 1:13:13.840 --> 1:13:16.840 you know what I mean. Um, but you know it's 1:13:16.880 --> 1:13:20.519 been two years since then, and I'm back and so 1:13:20.640 --> 1:13:25.240 while everyone's catching COVID, do right, I thought I had COVID. Initially, 1:13:25.400 --> 1:13:28.000 I have been going through so bag. So I had 1:13:28.080 --> 1:13:33.320 shot a video with Conway. Actually, um it's during called 1:13:33.400 --> 1:13:35.360 Complex carn and my son had jumped on my back. 1:13:35.400 --> 1:13:38.519 And before that, I have been traveling around with Kanye 1:13:38.560 --> 1:13:42.479 a lot on airplanes, um, like I mean were taking 1:13:42.600 --> 1:13:47.680 jets everywhere. Like car I was traveling with Kanye was 1:13:47.720 --> 1:13:53.200 doing a Sunday service Slash the JIK album, the promo 1:13:53.320 --> 1:13:55.920 for it. So we was going going everywhere with you know, 1:13:56.240 --> 1:13:58.960 so I was just taking a lot and then abnormal 1:13:59.000 --> 1:14:03.600 amount of flights, uh for two nineteen so that a 1:14:03.680 --> 1:14:06.519 good number. Yeah. So let my son jumped on my 1:14:06.640 --> 1:14:09.280 back at the video shoot and like it's like a 1:14:09.360 --> 1:14:13.200 crook in my neck. And I went to a primary 1:14:13.280 --> 1:14:19.240 care physician. Um, they gave me malox MALOXI car called 1:14:19.680 --> 1:14:24.920 and that made matters worse, um because it was misdiagnosed. Um. 1:14:25.680 --> 1:14:29.160 So by the time we get to March, when the 1:14:29.280 --> 1:14:32.120 pandemic kind of, I went to I took another flight. 1:14:32.200 --> 1:14:36.240 I went to to Kanye had the fashion show in Paris. 1:14:37.280 --> 1:14:39.800 I went with him and and his wife at the time. 1:14:40.880 --> 1:14:45.400 Huh yeah yeah, So I went with him, Kim Corney 1:14:45.439 --> 1:14:48.080 and the kids. We flew out there. We had a 1:14:48.120 --> 1:14:51.320 good time. But when I got back, I thought, I 1:14:51.479 --> 1:14:54.519 was you know, I was felt really weak. So I 1:14:54.560 --> 1:14:56.760 went actually went to early care. I went to try 1:14:56.800 --> 1:14:58.360 to get a COVID test because I thought because we 1:14:58.439 --> 1:15:00.080 was over the French and France and then then just 1:15:00.160 --> 1:15:03.240 had hit. So I was hitting in Europe first saying, 1:15:03.240 --> 1:15:05.680 so I was like, damn, I ain't got this, so 1:15:05.840 --> 1:15:07.280 they didn't even know how to do the swamp and 1:15:07.320 --> 1:15:09.760 none of that. When I got it was all new. 1:15:09.840 --> 1:15:11.559 So I was like, yo, let me just slide back 1:15:11.600 --> 1:15:14.439 to New York on the first thing smoking and then 1:15:14.520 --> 1:15:18.320 the quarantine happened. So I'm thinking, I, well, this ship 1:15:18.439 --> 1:15:20.200 is you know, I think it might be a month 1:15:20.320 --> 1:15:22.800 or something for ship to be closed. She'd go on 1:15:22.920 --> 1:15:25.320 and on and on and on. One thing led to another. 1:15:26.000 --> 1:15:30.280 Um I got very you know, my weight started dropping significantly, 1:15:30.600 --> 1:15:34.040 and you know, uh, it just got to the point 1:15:34.080 --> 1:15:36.479 where I ended up, you know, me and car he 1:15:36.600 --> 1:15:38.320 was having a conversation about. I was like, yeah, I'm 1:15:38.360 --> 1:15:41.639 fucked up. Dog. I'm like, y'all need I need some help? 1:15:41.920 --> 1:15:43.839 You know what I'm saying. I was in the crib basically, 1:15:44.479 --> 1:15:48.280 um So, Kim and family a doctor in New York. 1:15:49.120 --> 1:15:52.160 Um So, I had to getting the spinal tap and everything. 1:15:52.240 --> 1:15:55.800 They discovered that sli lupus, which I was like, I 1:15:56.080 --> 1:15:58.240 didn't understand. It was like nobody my family got it. 1:15:59.040 --> 1:16:03.800 The stereotype is that it's a it's an African American female. Sit, 1:16:03.880 --> 1:16:09.840 your genetic got the same thing and tea balls right, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:16:09.920 --> 1:16:14.360 so I didn't you know, so um so um. And 1:16:15.600 --> 1:16:18.280 what happened then was that because I dropped so much 1:16:18.320 --> 1:16:20.280 weight and I was like they initially thought it had 1:16:20.280 --> 1:16:23.599 some ship called stiff Man syndrome. So because I literally 1:16:23.720 --> 1:16:27.040 was like walking like I was like nineties, ship was crazy. 1:16:27.400 --> 1:16:32.679 You know what I'm saying. Um, so yeah, just yeah, 1:16:33.360 --> 1:16:35.200 and I don't still easy, but that ship was that 1:16:35.880 --> 1:16:37.240 it got to the point where I was just like 1:16:37.360 --> 1:16:42.360 I'm just I'm just thinking this's gonna happen. What I'm 1:16:42.400 --> 1:16:45.599 saying like like writing well out and all that ship, 1:16:45.680 --> 1:16:50.000 you know what I'm saying. Um, but um uh what 1:16:50.200 --> 1:16:53.760 wound up happening. I had to take steroids to get 1:16:53.800 --> 1:16:56.640 my sister to jump back up. So I wind up 1:16:56.680 --> 1:16:59.400 taking steroids, but then taking steroids I was taking apprentice 1:16:59.520 --> 1:17:03.200 on and then doing that. The middle GRAMD dosage is 1:17:03.280 --> 1:17:07.120 the equivalent to like glucose, So don't tell me that 1:17:07.160 --> 1:17:11.280 created the diabetes. Yeah, So basically I had to. I 1:17:11.360 --> 1:17:14.519 had to. Then I had Then I got to an 1:17:14.520 --> 1:17:16.560 inch knowledge this and it was like, yo, if you 1:17:16.600 --> 1:17:19.800 don't take insulin, you're gonna die. Your pengreas is done. 1:17:20.520 --> 1:17:24.400 You know what I'm saying. And you know what I mean. 1:17:24.479 --> 1:17:26.800 I told money. I was like, yo, I got a son, Yo, 1:17:26.920 --> 1:17:28.680 just to shoot me fucking you know what I'm saying. 1:17:28.680 --> 1:17:30.960 Because I was really apprehensive about taking inst because everybody 1:17:31.000 --> 1:17:33.720 see taking insulin was like funked up. They wasn't like 1:17:34.240 --> 1:17:36.160 they wasn't thriving no more. It was just like it 1:17:36.280 --> 1:17:40.479 was like you know it, it was like it looked 1:17:40.520 --> 1:17:43.280 every from my finch rock like one. But I was 1:17:43.400 --> 1:17:47.120 wrong because it actually it actually helped me tremendously, but 1:17:47.960 --> 1:17:51.080 from my lack of education about it, I just kind 1:17:51.120 --> 1:17:52.920 of panicked. I was like, now I want to do that, 1:17:53.000 --> 1:17:54.400 and it was like, Yo, if you don't do it, 1:17:54.479 --> 1:17:57.439 you're gonna die. Your pancreas is done. Like you you 1:17:57.560 --> 1:17:59.679 only thing you could do was jump started with insulin, 1:18:00.040 --> 1:18:01.680 you know what I'm saying. So I was like, yo, 1:18:01.760 --> 1:18:03.040 I thought of at all I did was thinking about 1:18:03.040 --> 1:18:04.800 my son. I was just like, yo, just do whatever 1:18:04.840 --> 1:18:06.600 you gotta do that, you know what I'm saying, to 1:18:06.680 --> 1:18:08.760 give it to me now, why while we're waiting for it, 1:18:08.840 --> 1:18:10.880 and she was already sucked up, you know what I'm saying. 1:18:11.240 --> 1:18:14.640 So did that, and then um, you know, I just 1:18:14.720 --> 1:18:20.120 started changing everything because I was still eating the same 1:18:20.240 --> 1:18:26.240 way with the medicine, and that was only leading to 1:18:26.320 --> 1:18:28.719 the grave. Honestly, Like you know, I was still eating, 1:18:28.840 --> 1:18:32.560 thinking like I could have whatever the fuck, and you know, 1:18:33.120 --> 1:18:34.960 you know what, it was just a lot of ship. 1:18:35.120 --> 1:18:38.759 And so with that, I begin me with more doctors 1:18:38.840 --> 1:18:41.120 and nurses and you know, shout out to north Well 1:18:41.479 --> 1:18:45.839 grouping my my um my, uh, my new basically primary 1:18:45.880 --> 1:18:50.200 physician was my looping specialist, Dr Neino. She she she 1:18:50.439 --> 1:18:52.120 definitely was a can't do it for me to say, 1:18:52.200 --> 1:18:55.360 my but for my life to be saved, I gotta 1:18:55.400 --> 1:19:00.639 make some money for that. Man. I didn't know none 1:19:00.640 --> 1:19:03.400 of that asking that question. Um, lost a million, you 1:19:03.439 --> 1:19:06.559 know what I mean? So lost a million was basically 1:19:07.560 --> 1:19:11.320 my way of just telling the story, you know, like 1:19:11.479 --> 1:19:14.360 telling the telling everything that happened, because I feel like 1:19:14.560 --> 1:19:18.080 my life I was losing. I was literally watching myself 1:19:18.200 --> 1:19:20.960 lose lose millions because that's the value that I have 1:19:21.120 --> 1:19:23.560 for myself. So it wasn't even let's say it's a 1:19:23.760 --> 1:19:26.920 it's a metaphor. Um, it's a metaphor so to speak, 1:19:27.120 --> 1:19:30.200 just the same like I'm literally watching my life and 1:19:30.280 --> 1:19:34.680 I gotta either I saved me onna lose everything. One hand, 1:19:34.680 --> 1:19:37.160 I want to pop the champagne with you, but another hand, 1:19:37.200 --> 1:19:38.720 it's just like, I'm not sure we got some more 1:19:38.760 --> 1:19:44.160 ship to talk about. You know, you also have to 1:19:44.200 --> 1:19:47.200 work with Case Slate two before he passed away. Actually 1:19:47.400 --> 1:19:53.679 hunt deep. Yeah, Man, Case Slave is definitely, um gonna 1:19:53.760 --> 1:19:56.560 be missed. Man, it's so crazy dating COVID. It's just 1:19:57.200 --> 1:19:59.479 the thing about the pandemic. But I don't think people 1:20:00.080 --> 1:20:03.679 ever fully understand is the amount of death that we've 1:20:03.720 --> 1:20:08.040 had to deal with in real time because of social media. 1:20:08.600 --> 1:20:10.680 You know, I like I watched so like even when 1:20:10.720 --> 1:20:12.560 I was going through what I was going through, I 1:20:12.640 --> 1:20:14.400 was like, I was a mobilized. I was on the 1:20:14.479 --> 1:20:17.160 couch and I'm just looking at face looking at all 1:20:17.200 --> 1:20:20.000 my social media platform. I remember I was, man, I 1:20:20.120 --> 1:20:25.439 was on drugs and I saw Brion dancing they I 1:20:25.479 --> 1:20:28.160 thought I was in the Twilights. I was like, wait, 1:20:28.479 --> 1:20:31.960 what the fucking we were doing? He was definitely the 1:20:32.040 --> 1:20:49.439 hype man. I didn't I couldn't process because you know, 1:20:49.600 --> 1:20:51.880 like it was hard to process that number on the 1:20:51.920 --> 1:20:54.559 INDI shut down from what we know. It's a new 1:20:54.640 --> 1:20:58.519 industry now, like basically we we now worked on the phone. 1:20:58.640 --> 1:21:01.080 The offices in New York as far as Gregor Companies 1:21:01.120 --> 1:21:03.560 still not Universe is still not open, you know what 1:21:03.600 --> 1:21:06.120 I'm saying. So we've had to figure out how to 1:21:06.880 --> 1:21:10.960 adapt to the pandemic, you know. So in that adaptation, 1:21:11.040 --> 1:21:13.920 it's like, yo, you're seeing you know, even even though 1:21:13.960 --> 1:21:16.640 your murders of Verses was an adaptation. Thought I was like, 1:21:16.840 --> 1:21:19.519 is this not not no disrespected? But it was like 1:21:20.080 --> 1:21:22.840 almost like it was like, I guess that's what we're 1:21:22.840 --> 1:21:27.360 doing the code, you know what I'm saying, right nice 1:21:28.200 --> 1:21:31.639 you know, like Godship was like yo, I remember man 1:21:31.800 --> 1:21:34.479 first first d nice Um joint. He was like, yo, 1:21:34.640 --> 1:21:38.479 cors what if I seeing like a more later? I 1:21:38.600 --> 1:21:40.479 think over it was on that D night on the 1:21:40.520 --> 1:21:50.439 show Nobody Out. It was likely sh it Obama, D 1:21:50.640 --> 1:21:54.880 nice Ship sit at the tunnel sunning, you know what 1:21:54.920 --> 1:21:56.519 I mean. And like I said, I'm going through all 1:21:56.560 --> 1:21:58.160 this on drugs. So it was like I'll see d 1:21:58.240 --> 1:22:00.519 Knights in the shows that my nigga, you know, I mean, Derek, 1:22:00.560 --> 1:22:03.680 my nigger from from damn near. Since you called me nice, 1:22:03.720 --> 1:22:05.400 I like how you like how you called him Derek. 1:22:07.360 --> 1:22:15.080 That's that's outside. I just look at all rappers DJs 1:22:15.400 --> 1:22:17.200 who've been through what we've been through. And I never 1:22:17.280 --> 1:22:20.599 called him in the first name. I always I mean, 1:22:20.640 --> 1:22:23.680 he liked to be called Derek. Yeah. Yeah, it's nice 1:22:23.720 --> 1:22:37.439 to men record. Yeah, your studios, Holy Mode movie. So 1:22:37.520 --> 1:22:41.320 what's the next for you? Cars? Reality TV? No, let's 1:22:41.360 --> 1:22:45.519 not list my god, my little it's a bag. I've 1:22:45.560 --> 1:22:47.439 seen the interview where you were saying it's a bag. 1:22:49.840 --> 1:22:52.800 You know what they're back. I just passed on doing it, 1:22:52.920 --> 1:22:55.200 asked me to do it. Oh yeah, yeah, I did drinks. 1:23:00.760 --> 1:23:03.600 But what was it like? You know, um, you know, 1:23:04.160 --> 1:23:06.320 coming from where you're coming from in order to and 1:23:06.400 --> 1:23:09.640 then going into reality TV just be say for a 1:23:09.720 --> 1:23:11.519 person that maybe you want to tell them how to 1:23:11.560 --> 1:23:14.960 do it. I don't know, you know, I mean I 1:23:15.080 --> 1:23:20.880 feel like it's uh, you know, listen, um, Tiffany said, 1:23:20.880 --> 1:23:22.880 like I said, because like I said, I know Mona 1:23:23.560 --> 1:23:27.280 since she worked Violator after started, you know what I mean. 1:23:27.800 --> 1:23:31.720 So you know, you know, to see what she's been 1:23:31.760 --> 1:23:36.040 able to do with the lane that John your has, 1:23:36.280 --> 1:23:39.120 you know, that's somebody that like literally the first trip 1:23:39.160 --> 1:23:41.800 I took a trial was to Miami. How can I 1:23:41.920 --> 1:23:44.040 be down and Mona was working with us. She was 1:23:44.120 --> 1:23:48.160 all point person. I mean, yeah, you know what I'm saying. 1:23:48.240 --> 1:23:52.000 So like for me, you know, my hat is off 1:23:52.040 --> 1:23:54.000 to Mona, you know what I'm saying, Like I was 1:23:54.000 --> 1:23:56.680 suppoke to Mona. I actually you know, all full transparency. 1:23:57.520 --> 1:24:00.240 You know, the thought had crossed my mind to maybe 1:24:00.320 --> 1:24:03.000 do another season, um because of all the ship I 1:24:03.080 --> 1:24:04.800 got going on, and I'm just in a different space. 1:24:04.880 --> 1:24:07.360 But I just think that for me at this point, 1:24:07.800 --> 1:24:12.400 like I've done so much that it wouldn't make sense 1:24:12.840 --> 1:24:15.960 to go back. But you know, just in full because 1:24:15.960 --> 1:24:18.400 I'm literally about to go. They're doing like uh an 1:24:18.439 --> 1:24:20.840 episode that's like you know something like what they're doing 1:24:20.880 --> 1:24:22.320 now type, And they asked me to do what I 1:24:22.439 --> 1:24:24.479 was just like right now they ain't in the fight, 1:24:24.560 --> 1:24:27.840 and they did. He did you know, when you're doing 1:24:27.880 --> 1:24:32.120 it change you can't tell Drakes can't fight. Yeah, so 1:24:32.280 --> 1:24:34.880 it's not no fun for me. It's not no fun 1:24:34.920 --> 1:24:44.320 for me. The first union fight with you that's went 1:24:44.400 --> 1:24:49.920 to together the balls, Okay, what's going on? Okay, okay, okay, 1:24:50.200 --> 1:24:52.559 you know so you know that was that was then 1:24:52.640 --> 1:24:54.720 and this it's cool. How about you used to with 1:24:54.800 --> 1:24:59.240 your lady. Oh really, no, I didn't know any lady 1:25:00.000 --> 1:25:02.160 and my new lady. You know my new lady. Oh damn, 1:25:02.920 --> 1:25:05.920 you're throwing it up with my new lady. You grew 1:25:06.040 --> 1:25:08.479 up with my new lady. Really, he called you poppy. Okay, 1:25:08.680 --> 1:25:14.800 I'll be mad about that. Sound right, But I don't know. 1:25:14.920 --> 1:25:23.000 I know he said ship. Make the look yeah, like 1:25:23.000 --> 1:25:28.880 I'm being honest with you. Say because you know her, 1:25:29.120 --> 1:25:32.320 her brother your fa y'all girl to her name is Melody. Okay, okay, 1:25:32.680 --> 1:25:36.360 you don't melody on the same floor, not even just 1:25:36.479 --> 1:25:43.519 the same same you know. You know you lady, that's 1:25:43.560 --> 1:25:46.000 what's up. Hell yeah, you look like you. I'll see 1:25:46.000 --> 1:25:47.760 the way you look here. Now, let's mom and she 1:25:47.880 --> 1:25:50.360 take care of me like you look. I see you. 1:25:53.000 --> 1:25:56.800 He smells okay, because I know what I deserved. You 1:25:56.800 --> 1:25:58.760 know what I'm saying. I know what I deserve. I know, 1:25:59.200 --> 1:26:02.920 I know with the word warrants, But do a nasty 1:26:02.960 --> 1:26:07.680 breakup or something like that with Listen. At the end 1:26:07.720 --> 1:26:10.479 of the day, I got my son. My son is 1:26:10.560 --> 1:26:13.920 my gift in his life, and regardless of whatever I 1:26:14.080 --> 1:26:17.640 go through, that's the final products catering and me and 1:26:17.720 --> 1:26:21.360 kating actually got a video coming out and shot Jamal, 1:26:21.479 --> 1:26:24.200 And so my albums is incredible. Who shot the mall? 1:26:24.320 --> 1:26:29.160 Who shot Jamal? Who shot Jamal? Yeah, So it's just 1:26:29.360 --> 1:26:36.200 it's basically our our dialogue, um, our dialogue between Falls 1:26:36.240 --> 1:26:39.599 and son about dealing with murder in the black community. UM. 1:26:40.080 --> 1:26:43.639 I think a lot of times, you know, too many 1:26:43.720 --> 1:26:49.679 times there's there's there's there's bodies, and you know, there's 1:26:49.760 --> 1:26:52.360 there's bodies in the streets that nobody knows what happened 1:26:52.360 --> 1:26:54.519 to him, and the police don't really care. And then 1:26:54.600 --> 1:26:59.280 you know, unfortunately families do the police work if there's 1:26:59.320 --> 1:27:01.080 any police him to be done as far as like 1:27:01.200 --> 1:27:04.080 getting just that closure, you know. So we're having that 1:27:04.200 --> 1:27:07.400 conversation in this in this record, and it's important and 1:27:07.920 --> 1:27:10.120 I'm looking forward to it and me and Kayden and 1:27:10.200 --> 1:27:12.400 I also doing a group album called One On too 1:27:12.920 --> 1:27:17.720 that having an executive producer. Yeah. So he tends just 1:27:18.000 --> 1:27:20.240 just got study on the Summer Jams screen and all that. 1:27:20.520 --> 1:27:25.479 So that's out of you know, I'm like, I'm not 1:27:25.560 --> 1:27:28.560 gonna criticize other than not keep it playing myself. So 1:27:28.840 --> 1:27:31.600 I don't do the thing with the girls and the 1:27:32.720 --> 1:27:34.920 dirt and all that on those platforms. I don't do 1:27:35.080 --> 1:27:36.920 none of that, you know, I just you know, I'll 1:27:37.000 --> 1:27:41.479 keep it where I'll keep it. But so, um, so 1:27:41.640 --> 1:27:44.400 what do you feel like um about like parents who 1:27:44.560 --> 1:27:47.920 like it seems like they put in their children on 1:27:48.080 --> 1:27:51.280 front Street. Is that something that that your son wants 1:27:51.320 --> 1:27:53.000 to do. Is it's something like he came to you 1:27:53.080 --> 1:27:55.120 and said, pop, oh, this is something that you wanted 1:27:55.120 --> 1:27:57.200 to do, like it's practice, and then it started to 1:27:57.280 --> 1:27:59.679 keep put himself on the summer Jams screen. I ain't 1:27:59.680 --> 1:28:04.600 telling get stirty. I got to v so you do it, 1:28:05.120 --> 1:28:07.519 you know what I mean. But I mean I think 1:28:07.720 --> 1:28:13.680 the whole thing is our generation. Now we're in the 1:28:13.760 --> 1:28:17.559 position to offer nepotism right without I don't. I don't 1:28:17.600 --> 1:28:19.280 need to get a check off o kat. And I'm straight. 1:28:19.439 --> 1:28:22.840 You know what I'm saying. I have a resume and 1:28:23.240 --> 1:28:27.680 and uh and uh in a contact list that provides 1:28:28.320 --> 1:28:30.160 what I'm saying. So I'm able to provide for my son. 1:28:30.280 --> 1:28:33.080 He don't take me shopping. I'm I remember pomp apart 1:28:33.120 --> 1:28:36.000 from because you if I just remember one time, I 1:28:36.080 --> 1:28:38.880 think I said the source of magazine and I've been 1:28:39.160 --> 1:28:43.880 like hearing Busino over here over talking about YO think 1:28:43.920 --> 1:28:45.800 they're thinking I'm making money of my son. I think 1:28:45.800 --> 1:28:48.200 I'm trying to expose my son. And I remember just 1:28:48.320 --> 1:28:50.680 hearing that, like and I'm just I wonder what this 1:28:51.479 --> 1:28:57.400 mean because perception. But what you're saying about nepotism, that's 1:28:57.439 --> 1:29:01.720 true generational wealth, right. See. The the the thing is 1:29:02.600 --> 1:29:05.679 there are people who actually see something in their kid 1:29:06.200 --> 1:29:12.160 and be like, yeah, just the ticket and Williams King 1:29:12.280 --> 1:29:15.840 Richard like that. That movie is so ill just due 1:29:15.880 --> 1:29:20.360 to the fact that what what you know, it got it. 1:29:20.479 --> 1:29:25.080 It takes humility also to see in your child with 1:29:25.360 --> 1:29:30.400 you what you can't literally do anymore. Right, So if 1:29:30.439 --> 1:29:33.560 you came you, you was Richen, you was Richard, you 1:29:33.640 --> 1:29:35.240 know what I mean. The whole thing is like you 1:29:35.400 --> 1:29:38.040 had you had two choices. You could you could be 1:29:38.680 --> 1:29:41.080 You could you could withhold the knowledge and hope they 1:29:41.120 --> 1:29:43.800 figure it out for theirselves. Or you could come up 1:29:43.840 --> 1:29:46.760 with a plan that's gonna actually be able to be 1:29:46.880 --> 1:29:50.439 executable through your do your through your seeds, you know 1:29:50.439 --> 1:29:52.559 what I'm saying. And him and his wife, it wasn't 1:29:52.600 --> 1:29:53.920 just him and he was him and his wife, and 1:29:53.920 --> 1:29:55.680 then you know they're geting shipped from the neighborhood. And 1:29:55.720 --> 1:29:59.040 then guess what, then three or four years they that 1:29:59.120 --> 1:30:03.160 wasn't the same neighbor no more. Their neighborhood changed. Not 1:30:03.280 --> 1:30:07.280 to say, right, their neighborhood changed. Do because of richest ambition, 1:30:07.760 --> 1:30:10.280 you know, And and a lot of times fathers don't 1:30:10.360 --> 1:30:15.360 get the acknowledgement of having to be the quarterback of 1:30:15.479 --> 1:30:18.360 your family, like having to really be able to see 1:30:18.640 --> 1:30:21.439 the end zone, I know, and take and take the 1:30:21.520 --> 1:30:24.400 heckling of motherfucker's worried about what you're doing in the 1:30:24.479 --> 1:30:26.680 process of getting from first down the first down. What 1:30:26.760 --> 1:30:28.960 I'm saying that the players in the end zone, that's 1:30:29.000 --> 1:30:31.640 where the six points is at and whatever else you're 1:30:31.680 --> 1:30:33.280 gonna get, you know what I mean, So you gotta 1:30:33.280 --> 1:30:41.200 get dead. I like that. I like that a lot. 1:30:41.479 --> 1:30:44.679 Go back real quick to when you're starting to run 1:30:44.880 --> 1:30:48.719 right and trying starting the bubble, because it was huge 1:30:48.760 --> 1:30:52.200 even from the onset. How was the atmosphere for you, 1:30:53.320 --> 1:30:56.439 like just seeing that and seeing that's actually family right there, right? 1:30:56.560 --> 1:30:58.960 I mean, well, the number one thing it did was 1:30:59.040 --> 1:31:03.120 give hold because I'm at that time when trial comes 1:31:03.160 --> 1:31:09.800 out when in Queen's right, So the streets is a mess. 1:31:10.560 --> 1:31:13.000 You know trial when trial came out of the central 1:31:13.040 --> 1:31:19.000 part five got arrested, right when not too long before that, 1:31:19.200 --> 1:31:25.479 Edward Burns that got murdered in Queen's document. You know right, 1:31:26.160 --> 1:31:28.840 I got it. I'm looking to the crib what I'm saying. 1:31:29.400 --> 1:31:34.080 You know, So the streets that we lived on, man, 1:31:34.320 --> 1:31:37.240 you know, niggas are selling crack of twelve bro, Like 1:31:37.640 --> 1:31:39.680 I know, I got a little I got man that 1:31:39.760 --> 1:31:43.040 grew up. I'm watching nigga smoke cigarettes and diapers like 1:31:43.200 --> 1:31:47.120 ship was out of control, you know, in in in retrospect, 1:31:47.240 --> 1:31:49.439 you know what I'm saying. But at that time, it's 1:31:49.520 --> 1:31:52.200 what was going on. There wasn't no nobody questioned none 1:31:52.240 --> 1:31:53.960 of that ship like that. Nobody was I mean, you 1:31:54.000 --> 1:31:56.360 know Al Sharlton question, did you know what I'm saying 1:31:57.240 --> 1:31:59.519 when he was rocking the joint? You know what I mean? 1:32:00.320 --> 1:32:09.479 Right right? You know what I mean. So, but we 1:32:09.680 --> 1:32:14.559 did like also like that, like Tribe gave niggas hol 1:32:15.600 --> 1:32:18.960 l L game, niggas hop singing DMC in the hood, 1:32:19.120 --> 1:32:22.559 and the Lincoln gave niggas hold. You know what I'm saying, nigga, 1:32:22.600 --> 1:32:25.400 You know me, you know I was able to battle 1:32:25.520 --> 1:32:28.360 run when I was the fourteen You know what I'm saying. Yeah, 1:32:28.840 --> 1:32:30.560 you know what I mean? Come on, costs to go 1:32:30.720 --> 1:32:33.439 to far? I ain't going nowhere? Went too far? How 1:32:33.520 --> 1:32:38.200 you think I got tried? You battle one DMC Battle 1:32:38.320 --> 1:32:46.400 run run Gold. Yeah yeah, he had he had a 1:32:47.280 --> 1:32:52.040 to toss you windbreaking track to TI right like how 1:32:52.080 --> 1:33:02.519 you trying to make it sound more fresh? You know? No, 1:33:02.880 --> 1:33:06.360 that's something you're serious. So you battle run where Buster 1:33:06.520 --> 1:33:12.479 told tip battle run? I got in tried Buster told 1:33:12.560 --> 1:33:15.960 Q Buster was there and said if you know Buster 1:33:16.200 --> 1:33:19.439 was there? He told no, not if I did. Okay 1:33:19.720 --> 1:33:25.519 at fourteen fifteen? Yeah on one on two that's the 1:33:25.600 --> 1:33:27.200 name of my label, went on to record, because that's 1:33:27.200 --> 1:33:29.280 how that's why I got the money. Queens get the money. 1:33:29.520 --> 1:33:32.920 You ain't leaving the block without getting this work. It 1:33:33.000 --> 1:33:36.360 didn't run have the hat on nah? This before, this 1:33:36.479 --> 1:33:46.400 is before they had this. Ain't no derby run TV man. 1:33:46.439 --> 1:33:50.479 I want some TV man is running the street nigger 1:33:50.560 --> 1:33:55.360 and queens. He had a haircut when they did then 1:33:55.400 --> 1:33:59.519 with the kid an with the key, there's ninety two. 1:33:59.640 --> 1:34:03.880 Not y'all, let's getting front cleaners on one our two. Okay, 1:34:04.160 --> 1:34:09.719 me me he spake ge busted ros rumble still scan 1:34:10.000 --> 1:34:12.800 rumble still haven't heard that in even a while? Right, 1:34:13.280 --> 1:34:16.080 I did he have on adid this? I don't remember 1:34:16.200 --> 1:34:19.200 a fool. Okay, you say you say you beat one, 1:34:19.439 --> 1:34:23.680 I a fool. I'm saying I'm not. I'm not had one, 1:34:23.960 --> 1:34:27.080 so I'm not saying it wasn't like if you you 1:34:27.320 --> 1:34:31.120 need to pop bottle champagne. If this is still please man, 1:34:31.600 --> 1:34:42.280 this is what they say. He probably probably heard say 1:34:42.320 --> 1:34:46.639 that I heard my skills say that that he wanted 1:34:46.640 --> 1:34:49.280 an autograph and run, but no one never came on 1:34:49.479 --> 1:34:53.120 you know what started to that? So we're like responded 1:34:53.240 --> 1:34:56.040 that no one didn't want to hear something. Listen, run 1:34:56.479 --> 1:35:02.080 and what I'm go? He can continue to go? Did 1:35:02.120 --> 1:35:03.800 me playing great? At one point, I was supposed to 1:35:03.800 --> 1:35:07.160 work with Diggie Singles on his debut album One My 1:35:07.320 --> 1:35:11.200 Nigga Niggas No like, I'm not, but I never disrespected. 1:35:11.280 --> 1:35:14.719 But I'm like, yeah, I'm saying, I A I can't listen. 1:35:14.840 --> 1:35:18.040 Here's the thing, right and and finnished to run right 1:35:18.520 --> 1:35:21.759 it's the nigga did me a favor by even saying, 1:35:21.960 --> 1:35:26.720 all right, shorty, what you got Yeah, nigga. That's what 1:35:26.840 --> 1:35:33.439 I got. That's what I got from Queen's names when 1:35:33.439 --> 1:35:37.160 I got from the boulevard nigga. Next stop trying, next, 1:35:37.439 --> 1:35:40.760 next stop of the chase for two facts pop one 1:35:40.840 --> 1:35:50.759 of that. God damn it, I said if CONS wasn't drinking, 1:35:50.760 --> 1:35:52.719 I wasn't drinking. But you're making me want to drink. 1:35:53.439 --> 1:35:59.960 Let's keep going. I'm gonna drink. I'm gonna get your 1:36:00.080 --> 1:36:03.160 cut hold on them. Mr Leek tell Biggs, I'm I'm 1:36:03.200 --> 1:36:08.679 recording because he's calling me right now. Because we celebrated you, brother, 1:36:09.160 --> 1:36:15.479 we celebrate salute solut So you gonna take a sip, 1:36:15.760 --> 1:36:22.120 don't count. I get the story on my but look 1:36:22.280 --> 1:36:27.760 not what okay? Yeah, I can't lie to you. Bro. 1:36:28.080 --> 1:36:30.200 Wait wait so you battle run? What happens in that 1:36:30.320 --> 1:36:33.160 moment again, like even in the midst of it, like 1:36:33.520 --> 1:36:36.799 what what was it supposed to take place? Was actually 1:36:37.439 --> 1:36:39.599 Fife and Mr Cheeks are supposed to battle that night 1:36:39.680 --> 1:36:45.639 and Mr Cheeks yeah he was, he was Coach Cheeks. 1:36:46.080 --> 1:36:48.840 So that's that was supposed to what was supposed to 1:36:48.920 --> 1:36:55.639 happen because because they because Coach Cheeks was Queens. Yeah, 1:36:55.760 --> 1:36:57.719 but he was the he was the nigger on the tapes, 1:36:58.360 --> 1:37:00.880 you know what I'm saying. And he wanted he wanted 1:37:00.960 --> 1:37:03.040 in on the game. So to get in on the game, 1:37:03.080 --> 1:37:04.799 he was like, yo, let me let you mean Fife, 1:37:04.880 --> 1:37:08.280 because Fife, this is right after the low end, you 1:37:08.320 --> 1:37:10.360 know what I'm saying. So Fife was like, so, so 1:37:10.520 --> 1:37:12.840 that battle was either gonna be Fife was gonna eat 1:37:12.880 --> 1:37:14.360 his food or he was gonna eat his food, and 1:37:14.479 --> 1:37:17.240 they was gonna have to then say, Coach Cheeks need 1:37:17.439 --> 1:37:19.560 to be on. But eventually got on, you know what 1:37:19.600 --> 1:37:23.000 I'm saying. Um, and about that night, like I said, 1:37:23.040 --> 1:37:27.240 he got he but but they didn't battle. So for 1:37:27.560 --> 1:37:30.479 for some reason, the chiefs sing chief didn't come. But 1:37:30.560 --> 1:37:33.280 spank G can spank G and Coach Cheeks was partners, 1:37:34.000 --> 1:37:37.120 they said. The ship called organized. I like to organize 1:37:37.160 --> 1:37:39.200 the two burgers and fry with my lord boy crew, 1:37:39.280 --> 1:37:41.160 because that's the way they would do. My man stretches. 1:37:41.240 --> 1:37:43.880 Now when the fact, well, Mama said, and so I 1:37:44.000 --> 1:37:48.519 did catch reck uh the real deal like holy Field 1:37:48.560 --> 1:37:51.280 making the emurgency phone calls my night man is burst 1:37:51.320 --> 1:37:53.719 to Freddie, don't scheme on my dream. Just get your machete. 1:37:53.880 --> 1:37:55.519 D that nigga was nice back in the day. That 1:37:55.640 --> 1:37:59.040 nigga was nice. It was him, he was nice. And 1:37:59.120 --> 1:38:03.240 Red Man they both did tape that uh mana bello 1:38:04.360 --> 1:38:07.040 um and and that's how Redman got on red and 1:38:07.120 --> 1:38:09.680 got Red Man got popular. He was already kind of 1:38:10.000 --> 1:38:12.280 with he was working with. But the ship with him 1:38:12.320 --> 1:38:15.840 and Biz the mona below tape is what made Red Man. 1:38:17.160 --> 1:38:20.000 You know what, I wouldn't put them on, but the 1:38:20.320 --> 1:38:23.120 no no, no, but didn't really he was spitting for 1:38:24.400 --> 1:38:27.360 was DJ and that for right. So but then he 1:38:27.439 --> 1:38:29.519 got on the money that Red Man slacks no HAPs, 1:38:29.560 --> 1:38:31.639 I got a knapsacker raph to give you more power 1:38:31.720 --> 1:38:34.040 to snap. I get the powerful grade gold castle. Now 1:38:34.080 --> 1:38:36.439 I got the power to smash you and thrash you. 1:38:36.640 --> 1:38:40.559 That nigga was that nigga back in the days, right, 1:38:40.760 --> 1:38:43.000 he let a clip off on that ship. So so 1:38:43.560 --> 1:38:45.639 my my point is saying, either one of those rhymes 1:38:45.760 --> 1:38:49.920 was that. So the kind of the stage was set 1:38:50.080 --> 1:38:54.360 for the ship, but Cheeks, I don't think, for some reason, 1:38:54.479 --> 1:38:57.120 got there. But then Run came and pulled up out 1:38:57.160 --> 1:38:59.920 of nowhere, you know what I'm saying. And when Run came, 1:39:00.479 --> 1:39:02.519 we all was out there. And then we started and 1:39:02.600 --> 1:39:04.639 then Ron went that, I went the wrong went again. 1:39:04.720 --> 1:39:06.760 I went again, and then that's how it kind of 1:39:06.840 --> 1:39:11.880 turned to smack DVD, not smack DVD like Queen's get 1:39:11.960 --> 1:39:15.000 the money for doing that though. Yeah, that's why, that's 1:39:15.000 --> 1:39:19.599 why I never try to come at it like yo oh, run, 1:39:19.720 --> 1:39:22.720 I told Run. It wasn't that I run gave me 1:39:22.800 --> 1:39:26.560 the crame run run, run past the tours to me. 1:39:27.240 --> 1:39:29.639 But it was in a battle. It was in a battle, mole, 1:39:29.920 --> 1:39:31.519 you know what I'm saying. He didn't give it to me, 1:39:31.640 --> 1:39:34.439 Like right, he didn't give it to me, Like yeah, 1:39:34.479 --> 1:39:35.960 I'm gonna put you on down with the king with me, 1:39:36.000 --> 1:39:39.160 you and Pete Rock. Now, I was like, nigger, if 1:39:39.200 --> 1:39:41.040 you don't, if you don't tear me up. You got 1:39:41.120 --> 1:39:44.360 told by Run and you might quit. But you know 1:39:44.360 --> 1:39:46.320 what I'm saying, because it ain't no really no coming 1:39:46.360 --> 1:39:51.960 back from that ship. Neither though holds your battles. I 1:39:52.040 --> 1:39:54.200 am battle with me. You in fifty the shades of 1:39:54.280 --> 1:40:09.280 hip hop wanted to see. I wait, that was Wartner's 1:40:09.400 --> 1:40:12.400 was was, wasn't it? He was one of the lines 1:40:12.560 --> 1:40:17.640 And yeah, yeah, yeah, you know it's crazy living that 1:40:17.800 --> 1:40:19.719 moment I did not know how special for that moment 1:40:19.920 --> 1:40:22.720 was one I never never would have realized that that 1:40:23.000 --> 1:40:25.160 would have made it to the century, Like look at 1:40:25.160 --> 1:40:28.799 all the hold funky all right, and that she's saying 1:40:29.800 --> 1:40:34.960 that's my right, right right, and I kifre was doing here, yes, 1:40:35.080 --> 1:40:38.559 yes that if the people that don't know you could 1:40:38.560 --> 1:40:41.640 go right now on YouTube one where somewhere it's a 1:40:41.760 --> 1:40:47.000 it's a famous freestyle this before like the punt freestyles 1:40:47.040 --> 1:40:48.960 and on listen. This was during the n R E 1:40:49.080 --> 1:40:59.759 album It's me uh consequence fifty. We all went twice 1:40:59.840 --> 1:41:02.360 and everyone and I'm telling, let me tell you something 1:41:03.320 --> 1:41:05.120 because it was like it wasn't like it wasn't like 1:41:05.200 --> 1:41:06.960 we were battling like like like I was just trying 1:41:06.960 --> 1:41:09.800 to say, but we were but not battling each other. 1:41:10.680 --> 1:41:15.240 We had nigger battling who was the number one producers 1:41:15.280 --> 1:41:18.320 at the time, and everyone what's what they beat playing 1:41:18.600 --> 1:41:22.400 in the background. But I've never been able to like 1:41:22.520 --> 1:41:24.400 to be kid do like that type of moment like that. 1:41:24.560 --> 1:41:29.439 It was, yeah, and it was so spontaneous because if 1:41:29.479 --> 1:41:31.360 you can't just blame it on the error, I gotta 1:41:31.439 --> 1:41:33.280 I gotta say I don't think that I gotta take 1:41:33.720 --> 1:41:35.720 is gonna that comes back? Okay, I agree with you. 1:41:36.320 --> 1:41:38.960 There's definitely a moment in time because because at the time, 1:41:39.040 --> 1:41:42.760 because of the position that awful artists was in, you know, 1:41:43.040 --> 1:41:45.840 you know no nor no and and I feel like 1:41:45.880 --> 1:41:49.920 that moment get reading the excex self freestyle, that that 1:41:50.479 --> 1:41:58.040 that arguably a point to be taking. You're gonna say, right, 1:41:58.080 --> 1:42:01.080 I was gonna say, really that was the sper Okay, 1:42:01.280 --> 1:42:04.960 that's what that really wants to bite because that's because 1:42:05.840 --> 1:42:08.920 because of the factor, yeah, it made it doesn't made 1:42:09.000 --> 1:42:10.640 it to the future from that it was on a 1:42:10.720 --> 1:42:16.599 VHS tape. It's like so it got uploaded, which once again, 1:42:17.040 --> 1:42:18.479 you know what I'm saying, double back to when we 1:42:18.520 --> 1:42:21.160 first started from the beginning of the conversation, there wasn't 1:42:21.200 --> 1:42:24.080 even YouTube when we did that, you know what I'm saying, 1:42:24.320 --> 1:42:27.560 So that but we was vi it's still vibra. It 1:42:28.720 --> 1:42:32.960 was viral that back then. It was when when viral 1:42:33.200 --> 1:42:40.240 was viral, like it was holding it every time somebody 1:42:40.320 --> 1:42:43.479 posted that had the platform, it goes because it's like 1:42:43.680 --> 1:42:46.200 it's a it's a new thing every time. And like 1:42:46.280 --> 1:42:48.960 I'm saying, I think it was the position of you 1:42:49.120 --> 1:42:51.960 was in there at the time. Fifty was just got 1:42:52.080 --> 1:42:54.599 sign the track Masses how to Rob didn't even come 1:42:54.640 --> 1:42:58.360 out yet. I was coming out of tribes in between 1:42:58.479 --> 1:43:01.519 deals and punched and was trying to get a deal, 1:43:01.640 --> 1:43:03.360 so he was hungry. So it was like it was 1:43:03.439 --> 1:43:07.439 like the chemistry just all may say like ififty would 1:43:07.439 --> 1:43:10.160 have been if Anthy would have had out the gen 1:43:10.240 --> 1:43:12.720 on the mixtape, it wouldn't have been that same situation. 1:43:13.200 --> 1:43:15.320 If you would have already had our super Dog, it 1:43:15.320 --> 1:43:17.519 wouldn't have been that situation, you know what I'm saying. 1:43:17.520 --> 1:43:19.000 It was just like, why were you guys in the 1:43:19.040 --> 1:43:21.679 same room? Was it violator the common No? No track 1:43:21.760 --> 1:43:27.760 masters a common denominic because they and I was there 1:43:27.840 --> 1:43:30.599 for kicking Precession. He's also working with the track master 1:43:30.920 --> 1:43:35.479 they Ever, it was all a phony situation. Yeah, also 1:43:35.600 --> 1:43:37.640 did the beat that he did for me that night. 1:43:37.680 --> 1:43:43.680 He gave it to me. But that's a that's that's 1:43:43.680 --> 1:43:47.000 a legendary, legendary moment, and and I look for that. 1:43:47.160 --> 1:43:49.919 I look for that like in other other people genres 1:43:50.000 --> 1:43:53.560 of music. And I don't think that that chemistry. I 1:43:53.600 --> 1:43:56.320 don't think that it was a special time in hip hop. 1:43:56.400 --> 1:43:59.720 Man what was your favorite what's your favorite what's your 1:43:59.720 --> 1:44:04.240 favorite period in the hip hop? Excuse me, um man, 1:44:04.240 --> 1:44:07.639 I got moments more so than just like time period. 1:44:07.760 --> 1:44:14.519 I mean, look at um one of my favorite moments 1:44:14.560 --> 1:44:16.720 that probably should be my favorite moment. It's a bad 1:44:16.800 --> 1:44:20.560 boy era, just just because not but just because you 1:44:20.600 --> 1:44:22.479 gotta Honestly, I was in tried, but I was looking 1:44:22.520 --> 1:44:32.960 at that ship like, man, a good record. I wasn't. 1:44:33.040 --> 1:44:38.280 I was in army fatigues right like we're going ahead, 1:44:39.160 --> 1:44:43.960 going to the town every weekend. I couldn't. It was like, listen, 1:44:44.560 --> 1:44:53.080 one thing, one thing you know TV. One thing is 1:44:53.120 --> 1:44:55.519 for sure, like Puff knew how to make a record 1:44:55.640 --> 1:45:01.120 that made women react, hits not just hits that may 1:45:01.280 --> 1:45:04.680 women react. You know a lot of a lot of 1:45:04.760 --> 1:45:09.880 what's going on now is not people not really understanding. Also, 1:45:10.000 --> 1:45:13.519 like if it's your ship is overtly masculine, you know 1:45:13.520 --> 1:45:16.639 what I'm saying, that doesn't include women. You know, if 1:45:17.960 --> 1:45:22.599 we've got one guy who defines that, who nas eskeootball. 1:45:23.280 --> 1:45:31.160 But Nast still back in first that first album, nas 1:45:31.200 --> 1:45:33.599 has has some passive bitches. No, Nas has some busy 1:45:33.640 --> 1:45:36.719 because he has the buzz. But you know, what I'm saying, 1:45:36.760 --> 1:45:40.200 but there's still there's because he's different what you guys 1:45:40.240 --> 1:45:43.360 are saying. There's different things. But didn't right, But then look, 1:45:43.520 --> 1:45:47.479 let's keep it real. Even with nas right, he has 1:45:47.600 --> 1:45:50.800 almatic Right, he got the bitches, but then said, if 1:45:50.840 --> 1:45:56.960 I really want to go getting longer the tunnel? Did 1:45:57.000 --> 1:46:00.800 he wanted if you really want to maybe, Yeah, he wanted. 1:46:01.080 --> 1:46:03.120 He wanted to to know little bit, so that's why 1:46:03.200 --> 1:46:07.240 he upgraded and stuck up. Yeah, but I've gotta understand, 1:46:07.280 --> 1:46:11.120 like is one of the best chick record makers of 1:46:11.240 --> 1:46:15.120 all time. His first record has been the Apple Bomb Bomb. 1:46:15.840 --> 1:46:18.439 I still don't know what that is. What do you mean? 1:46:18.800 --> 1:46:23.560 What is benea a bomb? Um? It's a person but 1:46:23.680 --> 1:46:26.840 I can't say her name. It's actually you know what 1:46:26.840 --> 1:46:29.680 it was? The first thing I thought it was a 1:46:29.760 --> 1:46:36.559 stroke move whoa, that's that's his beIN as he coind 1:46:36.600 --> 1:46:41.439 of drink who it is? But I'm like, yeah, you 1:46:41.479 --> 1:46:42.600 know what I mean? They can know who that is 1:46:42.880 --> 1:46:44.559 so little check it when we spoke about a little 1:46:44.560 --> 1:46:47.360 bit earlier right now folk plus and saying hey man, 1:46:47.680 --> 1:46:50.760 because they ald I love you guys, movement, love what 1:46:50.800 --> 1:46:53.519 you guys are doing. But he doesn't feel like they're 1:46:53.600 --> 1:46:58.120 making music that fits the radio right, at least fits 1:46:58.320 --> 1:47:01.400 his platform. He said, And why you guys kid, And 1:47:01.479 --> 1:47:04.160 they're saying initially, yo, you you should care because we 1:47:04.360 --> 1:47:06.519 this ship, we're selling out like how we spoke earlier. 1:47:06.800 --> 1:47:09.759 We're selling out arenas, we're making money. We got to jewelry, 1:47:09.840 --> 1:47:13.439 we got to calls, we got the crowd. Why wouldn't 1:47:13.439 --> 1:47:17.080 you support us? Where do you on this? On this 1:47:18.000 --> 1:47:20.360 side of the story? Where do you on the spectrum 1:47:20.400 --> 1:47:23.080 of this? Yeah? Did my my side of the story. 1:47:23.680 --> 1:47:27.560 So where you go as a songwriter, you always have 1:47:27.680 --> 1:47:31.519 to have a chorus to get on the radio? What 1:47:31.760 --> 1:47:37.439 what what? What? Like that? What? What? What? What? What? What? 1:47:37.720 --> 1:47:44.519 Tammy lewis what what? What? Um? What's another one? Um? 1:47:46.960 --> 1:47:49.760 I mean you have to have a course to get 1:47:49.800 --> 1:47:53.759 on the radio. That's that's bigger than even with flex 1:47:53.920 --> 1:47:57.000 is alluding to. The thing is like, and I'm saying 1:47:57.040 --> 1:48:00.800 this as a songwriter like that has to be there 1:48:00.880 --> 1:48:03.439 has to be. A radio is based on audience, and 1:48:03.520 --> 1:48:08.880 audience has to sing along without singing along, there is 1:48:09.000 --> 1:48:13.840 no that that radio doesn't fulfill its purpose from a 1:48:13.960 --> 1:48:16.840 bit and you noticed as a DJ, so there's there, 1:48:17.000 --> 1:48:22.080 there's the beat, the chorus, and then the raps far 1:48:22.240 --> 1:48:25.920 as records that are hit records blowing up. Eric B 1:48:26.080 --> 1:48:28.880 for President was not just I came in the door. 1:48:29.120 --> 1:48:32.840 I said it before. It was doom, the doom, the doom. 1:48:39.439 --> 1:48:41.920 I came in the door. I said that before. I 1:48:42.000 --> 1:48:44.000 never let the might a advertize me no more. But 1:48:44.080 --> 1:48:46.519 he's fighting me by He's like me the mom. I 1:48:46.640 --> 1:48:48.880 can't hold it back. I'm looking for the line taking 1:48:49.040 --> 1:48:52.559 off my coat, claim my throw the wrong, kicking until 1:48:52.560 --> 1:48:59.280 I hit my lass. I know the words the ship 1:48:59.560 --> 1:49:03.720 this me. You know what I'm saying. So the thing is, 1:49:05.200 --> 1:49:11.960 it's about resignation and and and inclusion. Right, I'm saying 1:49:12.000 --> 1:49:14.439 this as a song writer. I'm not specifically saying this 1:49:15.000 --> 1:49:19.479 about that even that argument. I'm saying, the components of 1:49:19.600 --> 1:49:24.800 a record that works at radio rap is based on 1:49:25.960 --> 1:49:28.599 it's based on engagement. Because some will argue, right now, 1:49:28.720 --> 1:49:31.120 CARDI be gotta hit record and it's only the chorus 1:49:31.240 --> 1:49:34.920 that plays once or me me twice, Cardi beef with 1:49:35.160 --> 1:49:37.960 Little Dirk and Kanye right now, remember what Flex said though, 1:49:38.040 --> 1:49:40.360 He said that what dictates what goes on the radio 1:49:40.600 --> 1:49:44.479 is Spotify and YouTube. He just amplifies that. He says 1:49:44.520 --> 1:49:46.920 that I think he said. But but but in a 1:49:47.040 --> 1:49:50.400 traditional sense as far as even if whether you're on 1:49:50.439 --> 1:49:55.760 the radio or not, right, a record like bad from 1:49:55.800 --> 1:49:59.320 TV No Hook consider the hit record. Yeah, but y'all, 1:49:59.479 --> 1:50:14.720 raps are choruses, a wit comps regardlessly. You're gonna ship rain, snow, 1:50:14.880 --> 1:50:20.800 sweet of hell, keep your face and on my hand 1:50:21.120 --> 1:50:22.559 and the like. It's part of the plan. I had 1:50:22.600 --> 1:50:24.479 to talk like I did well, how I see it, 1:50:24.720 --> 1:50:28.280 Doug down all the pecauseles soon to be up. Yo, 1:50:28.520 --> 1:50:32.280 I know the fucking wraps, bro. Remember that was an 1:50:32.280 --> 1:50:38.439 era before hip hop was mainstream on radio. But there's 1:50:38.479 --> 1:50:42.600 a market that's New York. There's a proponent to to 1:50:43.120 --> 1:50:48.439 resignation that that just happens, right, Like there's a there's 1:50:48.479 --> 1:50:51.559 a there's a component to resignation that just happens. There's 1:50:51.560 --> 1:50:53.920 a tone of voice, there's a beat, there's a there's 1:50:54.040 --> 1:50:59.000 just things that make people in three listens start working 1:50:59.040 --> 1:51:01.639 with it. You know what I'm helps the program basically 1:51:01.840 --> 1:51:05.880 right right right right, so so so the your opinion 1:51:05.920 --> 1:51:10.920 you haven't heard of recollect that from grizelta Um, what 1:51:11.120 --> 1:51:14.880 I think my personal opinion, like at the end of 1:51:14.920 --> 1:51:19.439 the day, right, if that wasn't even the case, there's 1:51:19.479 --> 1:51:21.200 nothing wrong with that. Grizella has been on like a 1:51:21.680 --> 1:51:24.680 three year run right, like in the Spotlight, right, and 1:51:24.760 --> 1:51:31.439 they've managed to like transition and transform into like the 1:51:31.560 --> 1:51:35.720 biggest ship independent not independent. You're playing them in South 1:51:35.720 --> 1:51:38.040 Africa when I went to South Africa. So the thing 1:51:38.240 --> 1:51:43.040 is like, but if they're settling for more for Gazella, yes, absolutely, 1:51:43.080 --> 1:51:45.920 they made they made the three stars, they three they 1:51:46.080 --> 1:51:49.320 three hip hop household names. So do I feel like 1:51:49.560 --> 1:51:53.000 in fairness and then and loved as some of my brothers, 1:51:53.040 --> 1:51:56.800 can they deliver the biggest, the biggest records of their career? Now? Yeah, 1:51:56.840 --> 1:51:59.519 you got every redstarting you up. You know what I'm saying. 1:51:59.560 --> 1:52:01.320 What you want? You might have to You might have 1:52:01.479 --> 1:52:04.320 to go see Timberland for that. You might have to 1:52:04.400 --> 1:52:07.160 go see it for for that. You might you might 1:52:07.840 --> 1:52:10.320 see this and say that though, but say yo, listen 1:52:10.640 --> 1:52:12.360 because a lot of people think I think they're just 1:52:12.439 --> 1:52:16.040 counterproductive to kind of get to the gatekeeper ship, right, 1:52:16.280 --> 1:52:18.960 I hold. I think when people think that you say 1:52:19.080 --> 1:52:23.920 radio record or you say, um, a club record, and 1:52:23.960 --> 1:52:27.160 people automatically think commercial you can make a record that 1:52:27.280 --> 1:52:29.880 is radio really or club really without it being commercial, 1:52:30.520 --> 1:52:32.360 did it? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:52:32.360 --> 1:52:35.240 But I mean I ain't Corey to always to go 1:52:35.320 --> 1:52:37.800 into the studio with that idea. This is my club record, 1:52:38.160 --> 1:52:41.320 this is my radio record. No no, no, but it 1:52:41.360 --> 1:52:43.400 should it should it should flow. As long as it's flow, 1:52:43.560 --> 1:52:46.639 it shouldn't be game. But if you have the wrong 1:52:46.680 --> 1:52:49.160 with being mindful but what you want to land you 1:52:49.200 --> 1:52:51.200 know what I'm saying, like, there's nothing wrong with that 1:52:51.360 --> 1:52:53.760 because I think Jay zhr get to give it to 1:52:53.800 --> 1:52:56.719 me joint. It was like, oh yeah, I'm pointing two 1:52:56.800 --> 1:52:59.439 two type of rap on this was like I'm out 1:52:59.520 --> 1:53:02.439 with this is the smash because as a song right too, 1:53:02.920 --> 1:53:05.439 when I hear something, I can either go either way. 1:53:05.520 --> 1:53:07.439 When you speak to you, you say, you know what 1:53:07.520 --> 1:53:09.479 I'm gonna go mess with I'm gonna go mess with 1:53:09.520 --> 1:53:11.240 the club. I'm gonna go with the club on this, 1:53:11.479 --> 1:53:12.960 or I canna be like, you know what, I'm gonna 1:53:12.960 --> 1:53:14.240 go falk with the hood on it. But you didn't 1:53:14.240 --> 1:53:16.360 go intentionally in that spot before you had to be, 1:53:16.479 --> 1:53:22.040 before you had anything go today's mind. So me working 1:53:22.080 --> 1:53:24.720 with a Kanye, right, because he a producer. First, I 1:53:24.880 --> 1:53:27.599 might have a Yeah, I'm gonna go this way with it, Like, Yo, 1:53:27.680 --> 1:53:30.360 that ain't big enough. So then you gotta you gotta 1:53:30.439 --> 1:53:32.479 rip that piece of paper up and start from the beginning. 1:53:32.640 --> 1:53:35.320 Because it's like when you got intellectual property, you can 1:53:35.439 --> 1:53:37.080 have all you gotta have a one level ranch or 1:53:37.080 --> 1:53:39.640 you gotta have a high rose, right, it's all them, 1:53:39.640 --> 1:53:43.599 which it's all them with you project onto the music, 1:53:43.920 --> 1:53:46.560 you know what I'm saying. So the thing is to 1:53:46.720 --> 1:53:49.400 get to a higher plateau, you need a higher level 1:53:49.439 --> 1:53:51.439 of thinking. So you so sometimes you gotta be your 1:53:51.479 --> 1:53:53.960 own worst critic, and like maybe I hit them. I 1:53:54.080 --> 1:53:57.120 hit this nerve already as far as my basis concerned. 1:53:57.320 --> 1:53:59.320 You know what I'm saying, Like you brought up like 1:53:59.520 --> 1:54:03.960 Lost and I didn't shoot the same level of video 1:54:04.320 --> 1:54:06.519 I did for Blood Thing. For that, I knew that 1:54:06.600 --> 1:54:10.960 Blood Sing had shot. What I'm saying, Loss a minute 1:54:11.000 --> 1:54:14.000 for me was my personal and my creative So I'm 1:54:14.040 --> 1:54:17.240 not I'm not gonna service that to radio. I'm not 1:54:17.320 --> 1:54:22.800 gonna say Flex is not women because he didn't record 1:54:22.840 --> 1:54:25.559 on the street too. Yeah, now that's what Flex, it's 1:54:25.560 --> 1:54:29.479 your poor you know what I'm saying because that um, 1:54:29.600 --> 1:54:37.640 because I'm just doing that. Yeah yeah, ship Hannani seven 1:54:37.800 --> 1:54:40.200 just had me come through the New Music men while 1:54:40.200 --> 1:54:42.360 I played it for all the DJ played the record. 1:54:42.480 --> 1:54:44.360 I played the record for all the DJ so it 1:54:44.480 --> 1:54:52.040 will be added, um I'm talking about Yeah Yeah, I'm 1:54:52.600 --> 1:55:01.080 I'm looking like Smoke brother Win a different space with um. 1:55:01.680 --> 1:55:05.400 But at the end of the day, Yeah, like with 1:55:05.600 --> 1:55:08.920 the Bloodstain't joint, that's bloos ain't gonna be my biggest 1:55:08.960 --> 1:55:13.680 record west. Yeah, you know what I mean. And I'm 1:55:13.760 --> 1:55:16.400 you know, so from there now you know, I got 1:55:16.480 --> 1:55:23.280 the remix coming remis crazy, crazy crazy. I'm waiting on 1:55:23.400 --> 1:55:26.320 like two more features that that my start announcing it. 1:55:26.480 --> 1:55:28.400 But I got that, I got that. I got the 1:55:28.440 --> 1:55:31.200 remix of the Summer for this ship hands down, you 1:55:31.280 --> 1:55:39.960 know what I mean. So independent that he got me 1:55:40.040 --> 1:55:47.480 on that one. That's like, understand sometimes just give up 1:55:48.480 --> 1:55:51.440 there Like such a thing is like it's like can 1:55:51.480 --> 1:55:53.520 you put out a record, put out a record or 1:55:53.520 --> 1:55:55.720 an album and called it like a full circle moment? 1:55:55.840 --> 1:55:57.200 Is that how it could be? Could it ever be 1:55:57.240 --> 1:55:59.840 distributed at So we're trying to see the Grammy family. 1:56:00.240 --> 1:56:01.920 It's gonna be on this trying to say they got 1:56:01.960 --> 1:56:04.520 a whole all of good music and all the trial 1:56:04.640 --> 1:56:08.120 on this. I'm feeling like your question though, right you 1:56:08.280 --> 1:56:10.480 was in you was in the car with you, right, yeah, 1:56:10.840 --> 1:56:12.760 you're gonna cass seeing you like the whole winter you 1:56:12.840 --> 1:56:17.560 just like phone up. Yes, yea. And they got a 1:56:17.600 --> 1:56:21.960 lot of money, right world, He's spend no money to 1:56:22.240 --> 1:56:24.880 clear every we were. I never see the pup a 1:56:24.920 --> 1:56:28.360 car now, I don't have cart. You got car. You 1:56:28.400 --> 1:56:32.760 don't use cars, use cars. You don't even you know, 1:56:33.200 --> 1:56:35.440 I wasn't when the bill came up. Wasn't sitting around 1:56:35.480 --> 1:56:37.280 having that awkward moment, you know when you both look 1:56:37.320 --> 1:56:40.320 at the bill. You know what I just you walked out. 1:56:40.880 --> 1:56:48.520 I just grabbed Yes, well, I mean different were different space. Yeah, 1:56:49.400 --> 1:56:51.480 you know what I mean. But it's it's it's great. 1:56:51.680 --> 1:56:54.680 But yeah, yeah, man, you know we week. He just 1:56:54.760 --> 1:56:57.520 got a lot of money. Goddamnit. Man, he's shine it 1:56:57.640 --> 1:56:58.960 right there. Let me see. Let me see what kind 1:56:58.960 --> 1:57:00.360 of watch that I know it's there is then to 1:57:00.560 --> 1:57:04.560 let me see my face stafted up? A ja come 1:57:05.360 --> 1:57:10.760 hear you here? Shine you got the pripe. What I'm 1:57:10.760 --> 1:57:14.280 saying it's a grown man time piece. You know what 1:57:14.320 --> 1:57:18.560 I'm saying, Like you know, you know, uh yeah, my 1:57:18.680 --> 1:57:24.000 brother loved me, I said, you know what. It ain't independent. 1:57:24.160 --> 1:57:27.320 It's on one of two records and it's distributed by 1:57:27.400 --> 1:57:34.320 My brother loved me. We talked about Jack because your 1:57:34.360 --> 1:57:37.080 brother loved me. Because we were talking about Q Tip too. 1:57:37.520 --> 1:57:43.160 My cousin loved me, love you a little bit. Your 1:57:43.200 --> 1:57:45.120 brother leve you a lie and brother loved me. Life 1:57:45.160 --> 1:57:48.760 with brothers, Jesus. I love that though, because you know, 1:57:49.000 --> 1:57:52.000 I ain't gonna lie to you. When I looked, because 1:57:52.040 --> 1:57:54.760 you know, like I said, I went into your music continuously, 1:57:55.040 --> 1:57:56.560 I knew. I knew that. But when I looked at 1:57:56.600 --> 1:58:00.000 the interviews like when, like I said, I supposed to 1:58:00.000 --> 1:58:02.360 tell about you, like when you when you're mad. I 1:58:02.520 --> 1:58:05.000 believe you when you're mad, but when you when you 1:58:05.240 --> 1:58:08.520 when you have me to I also believe. I'm looking 1:58:08.560 --> 1:58:12.960 at No Calcar. You know, No Calcar also believe you, boy, 1:58:13.000 --> 1:58:14.640 But not that's who I am. I don't really do 1:58:14.840 --> 1:58:17.280 gray every Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I don't. 1:58:17.560 --> 1:58:20.720 I don't halfway funk with niggas. I don't do sucking ship. 1:58:20.800 --> 1:58:22.440 I ain't on that. You know what I'm saying. If 1:58:22.480 --> 1:58:24.080 I don't funk with a nigger nigga, know, I don't 1:58:24.560 --> 1:58:26.760 if I wouldn't looking nigger. Know. I jumped out of 1:58:26.960 --> 1:58:29.120 jump out of moving van on Punk for you. You 1:58:29.120 --> 1:58:31.360 know what I'm saying, Like, that's that's who I am. 1:58:31.760 --> 1:58:33.560 You know what I'm saying. And I embraced that part 1:58:33.640 --> 1:58:35.960 of who I am. Just say on Punk. Yeah, I 1:58:36.080 --> 1:58:37.840 jumped out the van. I had to tend for in 1:58:37.920 --> 1:58:42.240 the sleeper from Kanye on the TV show, on the 1:58:42.320 --> 1:58:46.960 TV show Pong Show during Jesus walks, Yeah, that make 1:58:47.520 --> 1:58:59.360 van Holy moly, Yeah, trying to get it always why 1:58:59.360 --> 1:59:01.600 I would us and tell my brother loved me like 1:59:02.000 --> 1:59:07.400 he love me like I'm his brother. Noises that Champaigne 1:59:07.440 --> 1:59:11.760 right there. So you should have done that. So so 1:59:11.960 --> 1:59:14.440 damn you didn't see the Supreme Team documentary. I didn't 1:59:14.440 --> 1:59:17.560 see the Supreme Team documentary, but I definitely um it 1:59:17.680 --> 1:59:19.520 was well man definitely got to check that ship out 1:59:20.960 --> 1:59:22.840 on the roll with that with that, you know, because 1:59:22.880 --> 1:59:31.440 he's like a FILMMA documentary. I want to um, um, 1:59:31.880 --> 1:59:35.760 you know, me and him like a great text message relationship. 1:59:36.000 --> 1:59:38.080 But um, I texted him, and then when he text 1:59:38.120 --> 1:59:40.040 me back, I was filming so I couldn't. But this 1:59:40.160 --> 1:59:42.240 was the one of the one first times I'm gonna 1:59:42.240 --> 1:59:45.000 go on and say, yo, listen, bro, great fucking work. 1:59:45.080 --> 1:59:49.760 Because we're from the whole other side. I didn't even 1:59:49.840 --> 1:59:53.200 consider us west side Queens. I never heard that, but yeah, 1:59:53.240 --> 1:59:58.400 I just love, use love Queen's Bridge that it woke 1:59:58.440 --> 2:00:00.680 us through that West Side quay. So for what I'm 2:00:00.680 --> 2:00:02.000 saying is that if we know what was going on 2:00:02.040 --> 2:00:04.560 in Jamaica, we know, but for him to know when 2:00:04.640 --> 2:00:06.800 he knew, like the blocks in the areas. One of 2:00:06.880 --> 2:00:08.360 just why I knew because Uncle Wise is from a 2:00:08.400 --> 2:00:11.320 Hunter seven and got Brower and on forty projects and 2:00:11.400 --> 2:00:13.600 my other cousins from Basis. That's the only reason why 2:00:13.680 --> 2:00:15.360 I knew that. But I was so much of a kid, 2:00:16.640 --> 2:00:19.320 like like when when you hear me Satan paying for 2:00:19.720 --> 2:00:22.280 you're the leaka poppinga. Really he was working with the Britis. 2:00:22.680 --> 2:00:26.080 That's because I remember when Griselda, the real Griselda, the 2:00:26.120 --> 2:00:29.800 actually the Queeze. That's when Queens really got blew up 2:00:29.880 --> 2:00:34.920 because you know, cat Happy and preum and was rein 2:00:35.000 --> 2:00:37.880 up in Jackson Heights, so we had the Gold Town. 2:00:38.000 --> 2:00:41.600 So I remember my one like my one time I 2:00:41.680 --> 2:00:45.320 ever seen Alphole. He came to forty Projects. I believe 2:00:45.560 --> 2:00:47.680 he was popping to Willie's. And that's what a lot 2:00:47.720 --> 2:00:51.040 of people think. I'm saying that paid it for talking 2:00:51.040 --> 2:00:54.200 about Well, I'm talking about I'm describing what I'm supposed 2:00:54.200 --> 2:00:58.200 to describe in the movie. But I'm just you know 2:00:58.200 --> 2:01:01.080 what I'm to ask when it shows a tree of 2:01:01.200 --> 2:01:11.480 people in the crew, No baby is gonna do with uncle? Yeah, yeah, 2:01:13.880 --> 2:01:16.800 like you know you know t A. It's a bunch 2:01:16.840 --> 2:01:20.280 of VJ we were. It's a bunch of live asked 2:01:20.320 --> 2:01:23.320 niggas from princes from that side. The niggas lives niggas, 2:01:23.960 --> 2:01:26.000 you know them niggas is turning ship up. You gotta 2:01:26.040 --> 2:01:29.960 watch the definitely No, no, no, I've never met Prince. 2:01:30.440 --> 2:01:33.960 I've met Preme. You ever met Prince. The thing is 2:01:34.000 --> 2:01:36.640 like when I was a shorty because my mom my aunt, 2:01:36.920 --> 2:01:40.240 that's your my own is a Landis Atlantis said, you know, 2:01:41.040 --> 2:01:44.280 nigga like she got a baby by shorty black brother 2:01:45.080 --> 2:01:49.600 and she used to she you know, uh fat cat 2:01:49.680 --> 2:01:51.760 on the niggas, You know what I mean? On my family. 2:01:52.680 --> 2:01:55.839 I know, the niggas like for a kid, that niggas 2:01:56.320 --> 2:01:59.880 was the illest niggas that you like, the energy with them, 2:02:00.560 --> 2:02:03.960 you know, which is always you know, they were taking 2:02:04.000 --> 2:02:05.520 Kid Vince. There was getting a lot of money. There 2:02:05.560 --> 2:02:07.200 was getting a lot of money and they was getting 2:02:07.200 --> 2:02:09.400 a lot of money on the streets. So which you 2:02:09.480 --> 2:02:14.000 know when that comes, you know, you know, nig said 2:02:14.080 --> 2:02:17.000 the raps wrap life is the damn most dangerous life 2:02:17.720 --> 2:02:20.960 at that time, that was rap life. The block life 2:02:21.040 --> 2:02:23.360 was the illest ship. You know what I'm saying, Like 2:02:23.720 --> 2:02:27.200 Nigga's you know, like you know, Nigga's something you want 2:02:27.240 --> 2:02:30.240 to see. There's a part where l L's actually in 2:02:30.360 --> 2:02:33.200 the club that is crazy. That footage that probably that 2:02:33.400 --> 2:02:37.160 probably I don't know he went yet, but he said, 2:02:37.520 --> 2:02:44.440 but you stand, yeah he's involved, just like he wasn't 2:02:44.520 --> 2:02:48.120 happen yet. He was a pop and you seem you 2:02:48.240 --> 2:02:50.600 see a prince who see them all those things, know 2:02:50.600 --> 2:02:52.760 what I'm saying. He was like yo, he was he 2:02:53.120 --> 2:02:59.440 had yeah, because it's always that you know, that that 2:02:59.480 --> 2:03:02.640 famous I think it's in mysteries. I think it's in 2:03:02.880 --> 2:03:04.280 the mysteries. The Cute Club one of them one of 2:03:04.320 --> 2:03:05.960 them when they all on stage and they all dressed 2:03:06.000 --> 2:03:08.800 up and all that ship that yeah that's it. Yeah yeah, 2:03:08.960 --> 2:03:12.440 that ship didn't even know he was there, all knew 2:03:12.480 --> 2:03:14.120 he was dead. He didn't know it was film. No, 2:03:14.200 --> 2:03:16.640 he said he didn't know that specifically. Was that because 2:03:16.680 --> 2:03:20.800 he said that footage because someone he was that party? Yeah? 2:03:20.880 --> 2:03:27.480 Yeah yeah that ship was like, oh ship, I couldn't. 2:03:27.800 --> 2:03:31.840 I watched the whole ship all together. Serious, I got 2:03:31.880 --> 2:03:33.840 one else telling people I was doing. I was like, yo, yo, man, 2:03:34.480 --> 2:03:38.920 do some before ship right now. And this episode was 2:03:39.000 --> 2:03:41.960 like a complete documentary. It was completely different. I liked 2:03:42.000 --> 2:03:43.840 it the facts. At first, I was like, damn he 2:03:43.960 --> 2:03:46.800 he He'll do a whole ship and not involved Earth. Yeah. 2:03:46.840 --> 2:03:49.280 That was very last And did he had a shanty? 2:03:49.840 --> 2:03:53.400 I was like like, like, like, I believe Dug Bankers 2:03:53.400 --> 2:03:56.000 involved because the Dug Banker, you know all guy and 2:03:56.160 --> 2:03:59.800 Peter from Master Pil did a great job, bro great 2:04:00.360 --> 2:04:02.800 like even down to the backstory of how the area 2:04:02.880 --> 2:04:07.960 got built up by the contractor that their grandfather Griffin. Yeah, 2:04:08.080 --> 2:04:14.400 the people that the Griffin, yeah grandfather, Like I don't 2:04:14.440 --> 2:04:16.040 think the history would have been known like that at 2:04:16.080 --> 2:04:23.160 least that the black and then the riots happened and 2:04:23.200 --> 2:04:28.160 they cut off the streets with the trucks. Is though. Yeah, definitely, 2:04:28.480 --> 2:04:30.160 Queen's got a lot of history. We got a lot 2:04:30.200 --> 2:04:32.440 of history, got a lot of history, man, Queen's get 2:04:32.480 --> 2:04:34.800 the money man. So so what were you doing in 2:04:34.880 --> 2:04:46.520 Passes Downtown? Yeah, he just got that. I was actually 2:04:46.760 --> 2:04:50.640 I was actually in a mentorship program at Passions at 2:04:50.640 --> 2:04:53.800 the strip club. There's a mentorship programs a strip club. 2:04:53.840 --> 2:05:04.520 I'm sorry, passors was a mentorship. I was mentorship. He 2:05:04.640 --> 2:05:09.680 was ordered with mentorship or single moms no, um, because 2:05:09.680 --> 2:05:14.440 I was all her mentorships and um we were. It 2:05:14.560 --> 2:05:17.240 was basically like there was like an hour class that 2:05:17.840 --> 2:05:24.760 just consisted of baby oil. There was an our class that, um, 2:05:25.080 --> 2:05:30.160 you know, we would show you know, like basically richmantic, 2:05:30.400 --> 2:05:34.400 how much to actually do a transaction for like the 2:05:34.520 --> 2:05:36.400 medio ship. Are you saying he wasn't painting for a 2:05:36.440 --> 2:05:39.280 little world? I'm saying, I hold the mentorship. I don't 2:05:39.280 --> 2:05:45.320 even me. What's your program that my son doesn't know about? 2:05:46.720 --> 2:05:48.600 Did penship? Don't on it? But did this type of 2:05:48.640 --> 2:05:54.640 mentor ship? EPC? Did this type of mentor ship? Okay? 2:05:54.720 --> 2:05:57.240 I don't know that. My head was, uh, you know, 2:05:57.480 --> 2:06:00.040 if you know, you know, we need to cool it 2:06:00.160 --> 2:06:05.040 for a lot of stuff. Um. So basically, do we 2:06:05.160 --> 2:06:09.800 know other people who entered this mentorship? Um? No, I 2:06:09.880 --> 2:06:12.680 mean you know I actually had that. I had a situation. 2:06:14.360 --> 2:06:19.000 Um you know that happened on on school grounds out there. 2:06:20.000 --> 2:06:23.840 Uh you know, you know sometimes you know, people want 2:06:23.880 --> 2:06:26.680 to change their homes, their homeroom teacher. It's okay though, 2:06:27.240 --> 2:06:32.800 you know, man, thiss got weird you a whole room school. 2:06:33.360 --> 2:06:35.800 Like I said that away the mentorship program, I'm believing 2:06:35.840 --> 2:06:41.200 at that for single moms, who mama, I'm just saying 2:06:41.960 --> 2:06:44.920 with baby who got the baby? Because there was baby? Oh, 2:06:45.240 --> 2:06:48.240 I don't know about a baby because there's a mean 2:06:48.440 --> 2:06:51.720 right now And that says how that comes if you 2:06:51.800 --> 2:06:55.920 need to know what's you know what the funny thing 2:06:56.040 --> 2:06:58.440 is like? Man, you like that's like t you like 2:06:58.560 --> 2:07:02.000 ten four right now? That's like who to how you 2:07:02.120 --> 2:07:09.760 till forward? This one? I don't know, you know, nigga Yo, 2:07:10.120 --> 2:07:14.400 Nigga asked that nigga about passions. Okay, we're your points. 2:07:19.960 --> 2:07:23.120 The one I ready. I was gonna say I'm ready 2:07:23.160 --> 2:07:31.200 for anything, but I definitely like world. So you you 2:07:31.400 --> 2:07:36.200 like Wyoming? You've been to Wyoming? Yeah, pleasant, I like 2:07:36.400 --> 2:07:39.160 I liked it as it was you around was you 2:07:39.240 --> 2:07:42.600 did when he had the hat on the Maga hat, 2:07:43.040 --> 2:07:48.120 there's only one that Yeah, no one now came after that. 2:07:48.280 --> 2:07:51.600 I came after the TMZ. I was. I was actually 2:07:51.720 --> 2:07:58.160 running the Tribes Merchandise um Um initiative that they have 2:07:58.400 --> 2:08:01.880 with Sony so had had. I was coming off of 2:08:02.200 --> 2:08:05.720 just doing a collaboration with Billionaire boy Club. We did that. 2:08:06.240 --> 2:08:08.840 We did a U trial Buar City jacket for the 2:08:08.880 --> 2:08:12.200 Space program um record. We did it with Frell with 2:08:12.480 --> 2:08:14.480 you know, his own BBCs. We did Dad, We did 2:08:14.520 --> 2:08:17.520 it for Locker Drop. He did a drop with fans 2:08:18.280 --> 2:08:21.120 and then I dropped the phone. When I seen the 2:08:21.160 --> 2:08:24.280 TMZ ship, I was like, or when he said that 2:08:24.360 --> 2:08:26.760 the slavery is a choice, Yeah, the whole ship. It 2:08:26.920 --> 2:08:28.600 was just like, you know, the Twitter ship was going 2:08:28.680 --> 2:08:31.680 off crazy and I was just like, what the fuck okay? 2:08:32.360 --> 2:08:35.280 And I just happened to call I just actually uh 2:08:36.680 --> 2:08:41.080 hockey down Jay by accident, and he picked up. I 2:08:41.200 --> 2:08:45.440 was like, oh, oh ship, what else? Son And you know, 2:08:45.800 --> 2:08:48.480 we had a conversation and he and he actually was like, Yo, 2:08:48.920 --> 2:08:50.560 why don't you just come? I hadn't seen him in 2:08:50.600 --> 2:08:54.920 a while. Um. Um, but you know we was tapping, 2:08:55.120 --> 2:08:59.520 tapping in here's here's here's something to go viral. Um. 2:09:00.040 --> 2:09:02.800 What many people don't know is that Kanye at one 2:09:02.840 --> 2:09:05.240 point was supposed to join trial for the last album 2:09:10.080 --> 2:09:14.160 Wild Fight still was alive. No Fifer passed away. Because 2:09:14.240 --> 2:09:21.160 Fight passed, He's gonna join trial. Um, and that's why 2:09:21.240 --> 2:09:25.440 he's actually on the Killing Season record. UM. So we 2:09:25.640 --> 2:09:29.040 had really started connecting, but I was over here he was, 2:09:29.240 --> 2:09:30.600 he was doing what he was doing, you know what 2:09:30.600 --> 2:09:32.880 I mean? Um, some of the teams each having I mean, 2:09:32.920 --> 2:09:35.400 you know, honestly, I just you know, I'm looking. You know. 2:09:35.480 --> 2:09:37.960 When it did happen that I actually called, was like, Yo, 2:09:38.400 --> 2:09:41.240 you good, and was shift nigga, you know what I'm saying. 2:09:41.640 --> 2:09:44.160 And we just started laughing and doing, you know, having 2:09:44.200 --> 2:09:48.480 our conversation. And then he was like, yo, Yo, why 2:09:48.480 --> 2:09:50.560 don't you just come come? Why don't you just come 2:09:50.600 --> 2:09:53.400 out to Wyoming? Had you been to Whiteoming before? Never 2:09:53.480 --> 2:09:56.040 been to whim? And I was like, did did did 2:09:56.120 --> 2:09:59.440 your did your your negro sensis start going off? Nigga 2:10:00.000 --> 2:10:02.160 three o'clock in the morning. There were there was a 2:10:02.280 --> 2:10:13.400 moose outside of my cabin. What the fun was? And 2:10:13.480 --> 2:10:16.960 I'm like, yo, outside that was sucking ship looking at 2:10:17.000 --> 2:10:19.040 this ship like an old stag and got a hammer 2:10:19.120 --> 2:10:27.920 soup dangerous actually over you with the moose. Remember one 2:10:27.920 --> 2:10:44.120 wants to like going the moose that nigga. Look, you 2:10:44.240 --> 2:10:48.360 don't know now I'm doing on the counter. This niggas 2:10:48.400 --> 2:10:51.760 around like dash. It was crazy on the word with blocks. 2:10:51.760 --> 2:10:53.720 Gotta stayed at one top. So like the first day 2:10:53.720 --> 2:10:55.200 and going to the gym, right, you know what I'm saying, 2:10:55.200 --> 2:10:57.040 Like my ship on phoning gym. You know what I'm saying. 2:10:57.840 --> 2:11:01.560 A fox is walking down the street like fox, fucking fox. 2:11:01.640 --> 2:11:03.360 I don't think I've ever seen the part. No, never 2:11:03.600 --> 2:11:07.240 nigga man felt like even making a silly nigga like yo, yo, 2:11:10.680 --> 2:11:13.560 what the but we I like this ship called the 2:11:13.640 --> 2:11:18.240 first time we asked him. We go to the Bearsville before, Yes, okay, 2:11:18.280 --> 2:11:21.280 but go back to your story question. It's funny. I 2:11:21.400 --> 2:11:25.520 just didn't enjoy from Mike geronim No, and here's Bill 2:11:25.680 --> 2:11:28.600 but not not maeh to see im now his career 2:11:28.640 --> 2:11:31.000 I put him on Well, yeah, the first time went 2:11:31.040 --> 2:11:33.960 to bears Bill was with Mike Geronimo. Okay, let's get 2:11:34.000 --> 2:11:38.080 back the story for story. So but this ship is 2:11:38.160 --> 2:11:43.920 that the Armitage, which is the most it's wooding, but 2:11:44.520 --> 2:11:48.120 like Nigga's like, who the funk was staying there thinking 2:11:48.200 --> 2:11:52.680 that oil Nigga? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but no, no, no, 2:11:52.800 --> 2:11:56.640 I want to say it's like Harrison Ford was out there, 2:11:57.120 --> 2:12:00.360 like Nigga spend any of the Jones money at that ship, right, 2:12:00.640 --> 2:12:04.800 So it's like real selective. We're thugging this ship out. 2:12:04.840 --> 2:12:07.560 I mean like because because because the thing about me 2:12:07.680 --> 2:12:11.720 and yeah is like we don't really got the whole once. 2:12:12.000 --> 2:12:15.520 Once we reconnect, it's it's it's back to what it is, 2:12:16.200 --> 2:12:19.240 what I'm saying. So it's like Niggas is just fucking 2:12:19.360 --> 2:12:23.520 like it. You know, we running through the records, you 2:12:23.520 --> 2:12:25.840 know what I'm saying. Um, So it was a great 2:12:25.920 --> 2:12:28.040 It was actually a great experience, but it just started 2:12:28.080 --> 2:12:31.440 out it started out kind of crazy. But Nas is there. 2:12:32.120 --> 2:12:35.240 Naus was there when I got there. Yeah, nas was 2:12:35.640 --> 2:12:39.840 nas was there because right right, right, right right? So 2:12:39.960 --> 2:12:43.320 we did you joint kissy goos. Then we went to 2:12:43.520 --> 2:12:49.120 l A for Tiana ship. Well we finished Nash. Yeah, 2:12:49.160 --> 2:12:51.000 we went to l A for Tiana ship and then 2:12:51.080 --> 2:12:56.360 nah sh it was was last yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, 2:12:56.480 --> 2:12:58.320 so that ship was ill though that it was ill, 2:12:58.800 --> 2:13:02.000 that ship was ill. So earlier we touched on m 2:13:03.080 --> 2:13:05.800 I told your ghostwriter, you made it, you made it clear. 2:13:05.840 --> 2:13:09.400 That's a different songwriter a songwriter, right, So can you 2:13:09.480 --> 2:13:12.560 tell people lifference between ghost writer songwriter? For those that 2:13:12.640 --> 2:13:16.040 don't know, I'm here in the flesh and my name 2:13:16.120 --> 2:13:19.120 is the ghost. You don't know ghost is And I 2:13:19.200 --> 2:13:21.320 said it before. I feel like it's you know, the 2:13:21.560 --> 2:13:26.960 term ghost right, and actually povertizes especially hip hop because 2:13:26.960 --> 2:13:30.760 you don't there's no ghost pop writer, right. The writers 2:13:30.880 --> 2:13:34.320 usually credited, right. You know. It's like Diane Martell is 2:13:34.360 --> 2:13:37.280 not a ghostwriter, She's a songwriter, right. She wrote and 2:13:37.360 --> 2:13:40.760 Bring My Heart for Tony Braxton, Right, nothing directed Diane. 2:13:41.120 --> 2:13:46.600 I mean Diane, what's her name? It is a Dane 2:13:46.880 --> 2:13:49.040 you know one of you, lady is the lady named Diane. 2:13:49.040 --> 2:13:56.320 I forgot names, so something. And the point that I'm 2:13:56.320 --> 2:13:58.560 trying to make is that at the end of the day, 2:13:58.720 --> 2:14:03.560 these people are credited, given their proper credit. Diane Warren, 2:14:03.720 --> 2:14:05.600 thank you, and hip hop is like a bad word, 2:14:06.320 --> 2:14:09.440 no hip hop and it's a bad dole, you know 2:14:09.440 --> 2:14:11.680 what I'm saying. It's a it's more of a thing 2:14:11.840 --> 2:14:14.800 where it's um like to say, you have a gholser 2:14:14.840 --> 2:14:17.760 what I'm saying. And pop and other genres they don't 2:14:17.800 --> 2:14:22.560 mind putting upright because in there and for them, it's 2:14:22.560 --> 2:14:25.000 all about the final The final product is the only 2:14:25.040 --> 2:14:28.840 thing that matters when hip hop because hip hop is 2:14:28.960 --> 2:14:31.680 also a culture and it feels like itself made. So 2:14:32.120 --> 2:14:34.120 I don't want to give credit to say that somebody 2:14:34.160 --> 2:14:35.840 else helped make You're part of the rules of the 2:14:35.920 --> 2:14:38.800 culture was always being your own person, you know what 2:14:38.840 --> 2:14:42.680 I'm saying, being having that individuality. Um. So, when you 2:14:42.760 --> 2:14:46.640 were presenting yourself as an m C, um, you're presenting 2:14:46.680 --> 2:14:49.520 your you're presenting yourself right, But when you're presenting yourself 2:14:49.520 --> 2:14:50.920 as a rapper, you don't have to be an m 2:14:51.000 --> 2:14:53.480 C to make a hit record, you know what I'm saying. 2:14:53.560 --> 2:14:55.600 And so of the the while, I say it's a 2:14:55.640 --> 2:15:00.200 battle because the bad A lot of in retrospect, lot 2:15:00.280 --> 2:15:02.960 of people should have song writer's, A lot of rappers 2:15:03.000 --> 2:15:07.480 are in position to be bigger, but they don't, and 2:15:07.760 --> 2:15:10.800 they they're they're clinging to the culture. You know what 2:15:10.840 --> 2:15:14.920 I'm saying, Like you as a as a business person, 2:15:15.000 --> 2:15:18.200 as a businessman or woman in in the music business, 2:15:19.000 --> 2:15:22.760 every resource is that your available, is that your available 2:15:22.760 --> 2:15:27.360 as long as the budget allows for such. Right, So 2:15:28.120 --> 2:15:31.880 why would you be why would you be at a 2:15:32.040 --> 2:15:34.920 at a at a six seven figure level as far 2:15:35.000 --> 2:15:40.000 as as a performer, But then minimalize yourself to like 2:15:40.880 --> 2:15:45.160 the elbow grease of writing it all yourself and you're 2:15:45.240 --> 2:15:49.080 and you're not and it's not clicking or or or 2:15:49.200 --> 2:15:53.040 trying to produce it all yourself when when you may 2:15:53.640 --> 2:15:55.600 because you've been on tour, maybe you're a little bit 2:15:55.720 --> 2:15:57.520 out of touch of what radio is doing, what spot, 2:15:57.640 --> 2:16:00.040 what the playlists are doing, what's happening on YouTube. You 2:16:00.280 --> 2:16:04.520 know the number one thing what your brand is brand retention. Right, 2:16:04.920 --> 2:16:08.240 So there is no boundary in that. It's a boundary. 2:16:08.320 --> 2:16:10.680 It's a boundary that you create for yourself and hip hop. 2:16:11.000 --> 2:16:13.120 You know what I'm saying, Because it doesn't mean that 2:16:13.240 --> 2:16:18.360 you're still not like because Kanye has stated that he 2:16:18.560 --> 2:16:29.360 has someone writers is not collaborative. Don't say anything at you. 2:16:30.280 --> 2:16:33.720 We're talking to Mr so So saying all that to 2:16:33.800 --> 2:16:36.920 say that at the end of the day, um yeah, 2:16:37.120 --> 2:16:41.119 like he the number one thing should be final product 2:16:41.160 --> 2:16:43.240 when you get to a certain level as far as 2:16:43.959 --> 2:16:46.879 a name brand, like you know, like when I feel 2:16:46.920 --> 2:16:51.320 like I can't do do the task, then you know, 2:16:51.560 --> 2:16:54.360 if the budget allows for that, then yeah, I don't 2:16:54.360 --> 2:16:56.360 have no problem bringing in nobody to be like Yo, 2:16:56.879 --> 2:16:59.480 whether you keep the whole thing you sparked the idea 2:16:59.520 --> 2:17:02.560 of whatever cases, it's all about getting to to the 2:17:02.680 --> 2:17:04.520 next level. Two that you could be on the radio 2:17:04.600 --> 2:17:09.280 is that you can show why do people always um 2:17:10.720 --> 2:17:15.120 label Dr Dre has a great and everyone knows that 2:17:15.959 --> 2:17:18.400 even like easy Easy he said ice cube right the 2:17:18.480 --> 2:17:21.160 rhymes that I said, Dr Dre is a great everyone 2:17:21.280 --> 2:17:24.120 knows depending on the album that people rights rhyme. But 2:17:24.440 --> 2:17:27.240 they labeled him a great. But yeah, and still when 2:17:27.280 --> 2:17:30.400 people find out, like people like Drake or Kanye West 2:17:30.520 --> 2:17:36.520 has a little help. The purest pist I think, I think, 2:17:36.640 --> 2:17:40.360 I think kind of two different. But the purist accept 2:17:40.440 --> 2:17:43.560 that the purists is like Yo. But but they're saying 2:17:43.560 --> 2:17:46.360 that he said it for Dr Dre, I think, I think, 2:17:46.600 --> 2:17:49.039 but he has collaborators as well. He has people helping 2:17:49.160 --> 2:17:51.880 to play stuff. And I think that Dre was a 2:17:52.000 --> 2:17:55.360 pioneer for a coast and the sound, and I think 2:17:55.400 --> 2:17:58.360 that's me for a lot of people. That supersedes the 2:17:58.879 --> 2:18:01.960 nitpicking of whether he wrote something or not, I think, 2:18:02.480 --> 2:18:05.120 and I think Dre always was presented in a in 2:18:05.200 --> 2:18:09.080 a communal sense. When he put out n w A, 2:18:09.240 --> 2:18:11.360 it was him and others. When he put out the Chronic, 2:18:11.440 --> 2:18:14.120 it was him and others. There's never really been Dr 2:18:14.240 --> 2:18:18.480 Drayden solo, to be all honest, Every Drey record is 2:18:18.520 --> 2:18:23.480 a communal situation. So him rapping the production was it 2:18:23.560 --> 2:18:26.840 was always thought that it was just him, but it's 2:18:26.920 --> 2:18:29.440 all always been, There's never been. He's always been a 2:18:29.560 --> 2:18:34.800 front man, but it's never been all Dr Dre project. No, no, no, Right. 2:18:34.920 --> 2:18:38.240 So the thing is like, so he's never presented himself 2:18:38.600 --> 2:18:43.400 as a Drake, like a drake, right, Drake came and 2:18:43.600 --> 2:18:47.680 presented as presented, this is jovial young money, present Drake 2:18:48.120 --> 2:18:52.560 as an individual. Right, so we we make the assumption 2:18:52.760 --> 2:18:56.000 that this is the individual who's doing it all. And no, 2:18:56.240 --> 2:18:59.439 it's never was explained that, oh he could be collaborating 2:19:00.160 --> 2:19:03.800 the brand, Yeah, the brand on the Nothing that Drake 2:19:03.879 --> 2:19:07.720 did was wrong. It just the information was a league, right. 2:19:07.920 --> 2:19:09.720 It was presented as the least. It was presented as 2:19:09.720 --> 2:19:12.520 something that the public didn't know, right. So then then 2:19:12.879 --> 2:19:15.200 then that made you scratch your head and like, so 2:19:15.560 --> 2:19:17.560 is the guy that I thought or you the guy 2:19:17.600 --> 2:19:19.640 that I thought? Right, that's the number one thing in 2:19:19.760 --> 2:19:22.560 hip hop we won't it's authenticity, or you're the guy 2:19:22.640 --> 2:19:24.520 we thought you was. You know what I'm saying. Everybody 2:19:24.560 --> 2:19:26.880 who's ran into that kind of wall, it's been based 2:19:26.920 --> 2:19:31.160 on their authenticity. Oh now we don't believe you. You 2:19:31.240 --> 2:19:35.000 need more people, you know what I'm saying. So let 2:19:35.040 --> 2:19:40.600 me ask you. I'm gonna take a pece you could ask. Yeah, um, 2:19:42.680 --> 2:19:46.480 Game said that on here, we had him on He 2:19:46.520 --> 2:19:48.680 said that Kanye did more for him in the last 2:19:48.720 --> 2:19:53.200 two weeks and Dr Dre has done his whole career. 2:19:55.080 --> 2:19:57.039 What do you what do you feel about that statement? 2:19:57.160 --> 2:20:00.640 And where was you? Did you hear that statement? And y'allman, Yeah, yeah, 2:20:00.680 --> 2:20:02.119 I mean it was on it was on the internet. 2:20:02.200 --> 2:20:08.080 Yeah yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean, I think 2:20:08.120 --> 2:20:10.040 Game has admitted that he was in his he was 2:20:10.080 --> 2:20:12.760 in his films about the Super Bowl, right, So, I mean, 2:20:14.080 --> 2:20:16.840 you know, Game, when he and his feelings, he'd be 2:20:16.959 --> 2:20:18.920 laying it off like so, I don't even know if 2:20:18.959 --> 2:20:21.560 he even I don't know what his intent was. I 2:20:21.680 --> 2:20:29.959 think he just felt away about like, you know, exclusion, rejection, 2:20:31.360 --> 2:20:35.000 false narratives of relationships drive people to say and do 2:20:35.240 --> 2:20:40.280 things right, Um, yeah you can say that, you know 2:20:40.320 --> 2:20:43.760 what I'm saying. I mean, yeah, that's that's fair to say, like, um, 2:20:44.200 --> 2:20:47.000 disappointment and things that I need to drive people to Like, 2:20:48.240 --> 2:20:50.040 I don't even know that's a game true feeling. I 2:20:50.200 --> 2:20:54.400 just think Game felt defensive, like he felt excluded. He 2:20:54.600 --> 2:20:56.520 you know what I'm saying. That was a big moment, 2:20:56.760 --> 2:20:59.959 and you know, he definitely was, as we could see, 2:21:00.040 --> 2:21:02.040 he was getting enough to put out a project. So 2:21:02.280 --> 2:21:06.080 in his mind, maybe he felt like because Kanye actually 2:21:06.240 --> 2:21:09.080 had done certain things in that two week period around 2:21:09.120 --> 2:21:11.880 the super Bowl, that he was excluded from that and 2:21:12.280 --> 2:21:15.400 it made him say It led to him saying that, oh, okay, 2:21:16.400 --> 2:21:19.040 it's a speculation. I don't know, you know what I'm saying. 2:21:19.040 --> 2:21:21.120 I definitely don't know, but you know that that that 2:21:21.440 --> 2:21:25.240 that's that that could be, that could be what that 2:21:25.280 --> 2:21:27.640 could be a lane for that, you know what I mean? 2:21:28.160 --> 2:21:34.800 So you know, oh, well man, we actually what's next 2:21:34.840 --> 2:21:36.640 for though we didn't actually you asked me what next? 2:21:36.640 --> 2:21:38.000 So so like I said, I got the album, come 2:21:38.080 --> 2:21:41.760 now we got we got the first single is that 2:21:41.840 --> 2:21:45.360 attached to a project. Project of the project was called 2:21:45.440 --> 2:21:50.360 nice doing business with you? Nice? Yeah? Yeah? What's that 2:21:50.480 --> 2:21:55.440 a statement? It definitely yeah. I mean it's a vive 2:21:56.200 --> 2:21:59.240 I mean because I think you know, I'm at the 2:21:59.320 --> 2:22:02.879 point and in first and foremost it's just a statements 2:22:02.920 --> 2:22:05.120 in myself, like you know what I'm saying, like the 2:22:05.240 --> 2:22:07.880 things that I've been through. So that's the old me. 2:22:07.920 --> 2:22:09.640 I ain't moving like that no more. You know what 2:22:09.680 --> 2:22:11.800 I'm saying. Like, So it was just nice doing business 2:22:11.879 --> 2:22:14.879 with that guy from from the tribe. It's nice doing 2:22:14.920 --> 2:22:16.560 that business with the guy from going to music. It 2:22:16.680 --> 2:22:19.160 was you know, the best way the part on business 2:22:19.280 --> 2:22:21.879 terms is to tell somebody nice doing business with you. Right, 2:22:22.000 --> 2:22:25.000 So you're saying you're old. Yes, I'm just saying I'm 2:22:25.000 --> 2:22:31.400 want some new ship, super ceo facts making making every decision, 2:22:32.440 --> 2:22:37.000 No man, but one of two records flew me down here. 2:22:37.600 --> 2:22:41.760 That's that's that's that's your ship. You gott to run 2:22:41.840 --> 2:22:44.440 it from them. One not too right, and whoever else 2:22:44.480 --> 2:22:49.120 wanted it? Now? Man, but I was I said it earlier. 2:22:50.240 --> 2:22:52.840 Oh and I was playing, But I'm not. I'm not 2:22:52.959 --> 2:22:56.640 really playing. Would you really do versus against somebody? And 2:22:57.000 --> 2:22:59.119 if so, who do you think it's a worthy of port? 2:23:00.640 --> 2:23:04.040 I don't know, kick cutting, No, we don't. We don't 2:23:04.040 --> 2:23:06.320 do the same thing. Yeah, that's that's what versus sometimes 2:23:06.360 --> 2:23:09.920 it's about. I mean, if it was a celebration sitting everything, 2:23:10.200 --> 2:23:14.400 I don't, I don't know, not everything. Ain't some someb' 2:23:14.440 --> 2:23:17.080 get nasty. Yeah, you've seen it. You've seen it up 2:23:17.160 --> 2:23:21.879 the three six shots. Some of that you'd get nasty. 2:23:22.320 --> 2:23:28.080 I'm dreaming. Um ah, you're talking about like the san 2:23:28.520 --> 2:23:33.080 No Sean. Yeah, and they wanted in the same movie. 2:23:33.080 --> 2:23:36.920 But like's in the same moment. It's been right right 2:23:37.080 --> 2:23:40.040 right right right right right right now. I don't know. 2:23:40.160 --> 2:23:42.120 It's something to think about, you know what I mean, 2:23:42.160 --> 2:23:44.760 I've seen. I wouldn't want to say no names because 2:23:44.760 --> 2:23:47.119 I've seen what happened with I like both of these things. 2:23:47.200 --> 2:23:49.400 Seen what happened with Bleak and Jewels. I don't know. 2:23:49.640 --> 2:23:51.880 I mean, I don't know, I gotta see. I'm just 2:23:52.320 --> 2:23:57.840 so I'm an album cycle. Charles Hamilton, Charles Hamilton, that's 2:24:01.040 --> 2:24:03.480 I'm just bringing out the wood work. That's the word. Yeah, 2:24:03.600 --> 2:24:06.000 he nice guy, though, I don't, you know, I don't 2:24:06.000 --> 2:24:14.039 only got the plan Asia plan in Asia. I mean, um, 2:24:15.320 --> 2:24:17.240 I don't. I don't know if that would make sense 2:24:17.280 --> 2:24:20.520 for viewers. Okay, let's come on, let's keep thinking, y'all. 2:24:22.360 --> 2:24:26.920 You gotta relax. No, I would, I would Dad too, 2:24:27.080 --> 2:24:29.240 and you know nobody. I mean, I mean, if it 2:24:29.360 --> 2:24:31.720 was in the cell, if it was like Red and Math, 2:24:31.840 --> 2:24:34.560 then yeah, me and Tip. But I wouldn't go you're 2:24:34.560 --> 2:24:40.840 a cute Tip against Red and Math. You know what 2:24:40.920 --> 2:24:43.320 I would you know, you know, you know you know 2:24:43.400 --> 2:24:45.760 what you know that would do. I wouldn't do. I 2:24:45.800 --> 2:24:50.720 would do me and Tip versus Black Star and put 2:24:50.840 --> 2:25:01.879 money off damn breaking news. You you do if Tip 2:25:01.920 --> 2:25:04.560 would down to do it, Me and Tip versus Black Star, 2:25:04.840 --> 2:25:08.760 you in Tip versus Black Star, not try versus Black Star, 2:25:09.000 --> 2:25:11.920 Me and Q Tip versus most definite quality. And I 2:25:12.000 --> 2:25:16.520 mean that's friends respectful, like yeah, it's still respectful. But 2:25:16.600 --> 2:25:19.280 I would do that. I would do that. I would 2:25:19.320 --> 2:25:23.040 definitely do that, and I'm and yeah, I would do that. 2:25:23.520 --> 2:25:25.480 I would do that. I'm gonna do that. I'm not 2:25:25.720 --> 2:25:29.440 you know, extrusive thing is not really uh diversus thing. 2:25:29.520 --> 2:25:31.600 But I'm just saying if it's just throwing an idea 2:25:32.160 --> 2:25:33.800 as far as like because you put me with him, 2:25:33.920 --> 2:25:35.400 I was like, you know you want to put me 2:25:35.600 --> 2:25:39.000 him versus them too? Yeah, the whole native tongue one 2:25:39.040 --> 2:25:42.199 would be dope where it's a celebration but showing showcasing 2:25:42.200 --> 2:25:44.320 everybody's records. I mean, what's your guy happen? I don't 2:25:44.320 --> 2:25:46.680 thinking would though, but it would be dope. Yeah, but 2:25:47.400 --> 2:25:50.400 that but nobody or need to talk who No, No, 2:25:50.800 --> 2:25:54.480 the whole the whole native tongue comes out you j 2:25:54.680 --> 2:25:58.640 B no. No. At this point, they was throwing around 2:25:58.680 --> 2:26:03.240 trial versus outcast. That would be crazy. Yeah, that would 2:26:03.280 --> 2:26:05.480 be dope. Actually, you know, I've never got my trial 2:26:05.520 --> 2:26:09.480 called qush plaque. But let's get back to your ship. 2:26:09.959 --> 2:26:19.879 They say, yeah, that's um. Actually I didn't even get 2:26:19.920 --> 2:26:23.600 one for the last month I'm doing. I mean, obviously 2:26:23.680 --> 2:26:25.640 you know what I'm saying. I mean, you know I'll 2:26:25.680 --> 2:26:29.240 be picking up my thing is wired transfers. That's what 2:26:29.360 --> 2:26:33.560 I respect. You keep going, No, I'm not sure it's 2:26:33.560 --> 2:26:37.879 about the white transfer. So um, so one on one 2:26:38.000 --> 2:26:40.320 verses you're not really interested in I'm not. I'm not 2:26:40.440 --> 2:26:44.240 saying I'm not interested. I'm just I mean because I'm 2:26:44.440 --> 2:26:50.520 the first two artists that you name were, um, I 2:26:50.600 --> 2:26:53.200 don't know what they currently have out, so I don't know. 2:26:53.640 --> 2:26:56.680 Like it's kind of it turned into like a status 2:26:56.800 --> 2:26:58.960 thing and like yours this and you're this and you're this, 2:26:59.080 --> 2:27:01.200 and I'm like, I'm I'm humble enough to say like 2:27:01.280 --> 2:27:03.240 I got my I got my first thing, while in 2:27:03.320 --> 2:27:06.440 a minute, I've been doing a bunch of see my verses, 2:27:06.480 --> 2:27:10.359 isn't fair because I'm right for other people and myself, 2:27:10.879 --> 2:27:14.160 nobody's being blood staining. Let's be clear, nobody, nobody have 2:27:14.240 --> 2:27:16.120 nothing out that's gonna beat that ship right now right 2:27:18.040 --> 2:27:22.800 But he don't have nothing now right this minute. Common 2:27:22.840 --> 2:27:24.920 would be a good one. I mean that that would 2:27:25.000 --> 2:27:27.240 that would be a headye. I mean, you know, Common 2:27:27.280 --> 2:27:28.800 got a lot of records. Though I ain't gonna lie, 2:27:28.879 --> 2:27:30.600 I'm like, I'm not, I'm not over here. And he 2:27:30.720 --> 2:27:32.359 used to love him. He got a lot of records. 2:27:32.640 --> 2:27:35.320 I'll be comming the NBA live. When I first joined tribe, 2:27:35.400 --> 2:27:38.640 when he had the line, I would comment as different, 2:27:39.640 --> 2:27:52.200 but yeah, we're not common ism, you know, comming a legend. 2:27:52.240 --> 2:27:54.200 Ain't know, you can't take it on the way what 2:27:54.240 --> 2:27:57.480 I'm saying like, you know, I'm never I'll celebrating all 2:27:57.520 --> 2:28:00.200 this too. It ain't just about me that I don't 2:28:00.200 --> 2:28:02.520 take learning away from you, I said, like with the 2:28:02.560 --> 2:28:03.760 other people, I'm not. I could have been like man, 2:28:03.800 --> 2:28:07.440 nothing all right, because because look, I want to be 2:28:07.520 --> 2:28:09.960 honest with you. And Nigga ain't know home bots the 2:28:10.000 --> 2:28:13.920 niggas getting no paper. No, I mean, let's let's just 2:28:14.080 --> 2:28:15.640 just be real, like you could call up hold the 2:28:15.720 --> 2:28:25.480 names you want. Niggas is niggas apprehended by poverty, all 2:28:25.560 --> 2:28:28.160 behind the back in the fucking ball, backling chicken wing 2:28:28.280 --> 2:28:32.200 like nigga hurt, you know what I mean. So you 2:28:32.240 --> 2:28:34.760 know what I mean. I'm not a sore winner though 2:28:34.800 --> 2:28:37.880 I'm not here to putting nobody facing a bowl of shit. 2:28:38.320 --> 2:28:41.400 I'm not oning that I'll lift before I do any 2:28:41.440 --> 2:28:43.880 of that, you know what I'm saying. But you know 2:28:44.600 --> 2:28:47.840 I mean. But but I'm I am a rapper. I'm 2:28:47.840 --> 2:28:50.240 an m C first, and part of being a MC 2:28:52.080 --> 2:28:54.160 is this ship. The rob Van damn ship. You know 2:28:54.160 --> 2:28:56.720 what I'm saying. So like when you say certain niggas, 2:28:56.720 --> 2:28:59.480 I wouldn't even climbed through the ring ropes for certain niggas. 2:29:00.400 --> 2:29:02.800 You're not gonna be You're not gonna get past Paronoid 2:29:03.360 --> 2:29:08.600 over eight Away Heartbreak. Who you think wrote that? Read 2:29:08.640 --> 2:29:13.000 your credits. You're not getting past Paranoid. You're not. You 2:29:13.160 --> 2:29:17.959 might not get past Grammy family. I'll call my ship 2:29:18.040 --> 2:29:22.640 out because see, when you participate in the Ryan, it's 2:29:22.680 --> 2:29:25.840 part of yours, part of your compositors. So how are 2:29:25.840 --> 2:29:31.000 you gonna get past on core? Nigger? Kanye called me. 2:29:31.080 --> 2:29:33.040 I was at a barbecue and we we wrote to 2:29:33.040 --> 2:29:37.000 hook the Encore on the phone. Two thousand and three, 2:29:40.080 --> 2:29:41.680 jay Z wrote the wrong not taking another away from 2:29:41.760 --> 2:29:44.600 jay Z, I'm telling how the hook came out. I 2:29:44.920 --> 2:29:47.879 said this to me. Every spoke about this before. That's 2:29:47.959 --> 2:29:54.320 part of my exactly. No, No, I'm not no, No, 2:29:54.720 --> 2:29:58.400 I don't care. I don't care about it. So technically 2:29:58.600 --> 2:30:04.720 I could throw on Core. Great. So then once again, 2:30:04.760 --> 2:30:09.160 if they're gonna play more fucking whatever the funk song, 2:30:11.160 --> 2:30:14.039 you gotta handle that. You gotta handle that, you gotta 2:30:14.200 --> 2:30:16.680 you gotta handle off. You gotta handle a bunch of 2:30:16.720 --> 2:30:19.280 ship and they're good. You you, you gotta handle spaceship. 2:30:21.520 --> 2:30:26.000 What you're gonna do about the spaceship not not too much. 2:30:28.080 --> 2:30:31.720 And who we're talking about again, whoever the fuck dot com, 2:30:32.320 --> 2:30:35.200 dot com, dot org go to go daddy dot com 2:30:35.400 --> 2:30:39.920 or the whole three of them ships dot I think 2:30:40.000 --> 2:30:46.160 that's the way. That's that's the way your coughs. I 2:30:46.240 --> 2:30:49.120 just want to tell you, man, Uh, it's not a 2:30:49.200 --> 2:30:53.080 lot of people who to every era that you survived to. 2:30:53.200 --> 2:30:58.760 That's that's what's crazy. And almost every era in the 2:30:58.879 --> 2:31:02.600 last couple of you know, you've been there, You've been relevant, 2:31:03.520 --> 2:31:06.920 you've been involved with some of the biggest projects that's 2:31:06.959 --> 2:31:10.560 been out. Uh. I want to tell you you know, 2:31:10.680 --> 2:31:13.920 that's not going unnoticed. That's going with a big salute 2:31:13.959 --> 2:31:16.520 to it. Because in order to stay of stay alive 2:31:16.560 --> 2:31:19.240 and survived in this game, I know how hard it is. 2:31:19.600 --> 2:31:22.000 Trust me, I know how hard of this I say, 2:31:22.400 --> 2:31:24.200 and I take my hat off. I'll take my hat 2:31:24.240 --> 2:31:31.840 off to y'all thanks to you. Um. You know, once again, 2:31:31.959 --> 2:31:34.200 we the first time we actually meant what the shades 2:31:34.240 --> 2:31:38.360 of hip hop it's like. And you know, you know, 2:31:38.800 --> 2:31:41.160 I did Drink Chance before when I did it with Tribe. 2:31:41.720 --> 2:31:43.880 You know, we've all stayed in touch since then. I've 2:31:43.920 --> 2:31:48.360 watched you guys become to become become to culture when 2:31:48.360 --> 2:31:52.280 it comes to interviews and YouTube and just just and 2:31:52.480 --> 2:31:57.120 just having artists giving giving the platform that you'll started 2:31:57.640 --> 2:32:02.920 and seeing how don't see of good intent have flourished 2:32:02.959 --> 2:32:06.600 for you guys. Man, you don't take my basically basically 2:32:06.760 --> 2:32:09.119 said you see a lot of ship. Basically you're saying 2:32:09.720 --> 2:32:14.360 not even that right now. I see y'alla see y'all 2:32:14.400 --> 2:32:17.680 become number one. Yes, that's wrack. So that's the whole thing. 2:32:17.840 --> 2:32:21.720 And whether the analytics is one, is two or three 2:32:21.760 --> 2:32:24.480 or Apple of Music, whatever it is, the conversation is 2:32:24.600 --> 2:32:27.760 number one. The conversation has the impact and that's the 2:32:27.800 --> 2:32:29.800 whole thing. It's just like it's a hit record, Drink 2:32:29.879 --> 2:32:34.880 Chance is the head. So we we interviewed Dave Chappelle 2:32:35.640 --> 2:32:39.600 and Dave said, we're just like, yo, you want to 2:32:39.640 --> 2:32:45.000 get this The water was like yo, I said, I said, 2:32:45.160 --> 2:32:48.120 we um, I'm forget what I said about I think 2:32:48.120 --> 2:32:51.720 gonna talking about um the documentary And Dave Chappelle said, 2:32:52.800 --> 2:32:56.120 great guy, and he has great teeth. Yeah. I mean 2:32:56.280 --> 2:32:58.160 he was talking about the old model that you got 2:32:58.800 --> 2:33:04.960 it up with the twenty two for queens get the 2:33:05.040 --> 2:33:09.480 money right, right, So it's the recipes to the over there, 2:33:10.120 --> 2:33:12.320 yeah man, And you know we're all here and ship 2:33:12.400 --> 2:33:16.800 looking right. I little I ain't out here DJ and 2:33:16.840 --> 2:33:24.119 for chicken fingers like a nigger man is though, what's 2:33:24.160 --> 2:33:28.360 causing all this brick Flint said, I ain't out here 2:33:28.440 --> 2:33:30.440 DJ for chicken fingers. They don't call me d J. 2:33:30.560 --> 2:33:34.960 Honey mustard. Nigga man ain't my man. So like I 2:33:35.080 --> 2:33:37.000 told you when we did the text, it's like, you know, 2:33:37.200 --> 2:33:40.520 like that that that's that's that's a nigga getting shut off, 2:33:41.040 --> 2:33:44.160 and that's cool. That's my man. He shouted me out 2:33:44.520 --> 2:33:46.640 on the Grammys. You know what I'm saying. You know, 2:33:46.959 --> 2:33:49.960 but you know, like them shoutouts, you gotta watch some 2:33:50.040 --> 2:33:53.560 shoutouts because then I'm like, shout niggas out like it 2:33:53.640 --> 2:33:59.440 ain't nothing. Nig y'allers don't y'all nigga, you ain't just 2:33:59.440 --> 2:34:03.240 don't like to buying movie between nigga. It ain't stopped 2:34:03.280 --> 2:34:10.080 in two sixteen because Virgil Gon, we're sending it to 2:34:10.200 --> 2:34:13.920 me like I said, it's not a lot of people 2:34:13.920 --> 2:34:17.120 who survived with what what what the this line of 2:34:17.240 --> 2:34:25.000 question is the question in general because because you know, 2:34:25.200 --> 2:34:27.000 it's a lot of ships that goes on this, a 2:34:27.040 --> 2:34:29.040 lot of ship that you know, you stayed strong for 2:34:29.879 --> 2:34:31.520 and you here, you're still to the test of time 2:34:31.600 --> 2:34:33.400 and you and you here. So we want to get 2:34:33.440 --> 2:34:36.000 your flowers what we did. Wanna you know what I mean, 2:34:36.360 --> 2:34:40.480 salute you and we're gonna We're gonna you got anything 2:34:40.480 --> 2:34:43.160 else to say? Anything else want to say? 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