Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect
Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio and his Drink Chas motherfucking podcast. Mason,
Speaker 1: he's a legendary queen's rapper. He's agree. It's your boy
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Speaker 1: make now when you talk about a legend legend talking
Speaker 1: about a man who's who, who's not only made hits,
Speaker 1: but been behind constant hits for years. She came in
Speaker 1: a game. I believe he first heard him the first
Speaker 1: time we heard him. Officially, it's ninety six with try
Speaker 1: but I already started out ninety People gonna ask that later,
Speaker 1: but he has been uh you know, you know, I
Speaker 1: had to do my due diligence and I had to go.
Speaker 1: You know, look at other interviews, he's been doing other things.
Speaker 1: And boy, it's a Rooter coaster and most of us
Speaker 1: love Rota coasters. It's it's it's been, you know, a
Speaker 1: great time. But the man, when the man feels something,
Speaker 1: he expresses it. He's not in type the whole back.
Speaker 1: He's gonna talk when he fails, he's gonna feel what
Speaker 1: he says and all that. But the case you don't
Speaker 1: know I'm talking about. We're talking about one of the
Speaker 1: illness ghost riders in the game when us hit makers
Speaker 1: in the game. Excuse me, excuse me, because he gets
Speaker 1: his credit, he gets his credit, his name want the
Speaker 1: back of y'all y'all mean, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Case you don't know shows a little bit, a little bit,
Speaker 1: a little bit, But case you don't know what we're
Speaker 1: talking to talk about the mother one, the only my
Speaker 1: home girl que consequence on Google. Let's get straight on
Speaker 1: Google and say to Google, that's a rando, could be
Speaker 1: a reporter or whatever, just hasn't hasn't done. No, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. No that I didn't say. The first
Speaker 1: thing you started and started ninety three rhyme. I guess
Speaker 1: your first official record was ninety six before that is
Speaker 1: eighty nine. Wow, that's yeah, you know it's funny. Uh.
Speaker 1: I felt like kel hard when he was interviewing M
Speaker 1: to dud he said damn like I almost said that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Q till mom uh was pretty much my first co sign.
Speaker 1: So um, my grandma. What happened with my grandma's daughter
Speaker 1: at eighty nine and a friend of mine who I
Speaker 1: eventually endo rapping where his brother got killed, uh same
Speaker 1: year a little a little before that maybe like went
Speaker 1: to eighty eight he got popped and like um and
Speaker 1: the dead end. So what happened was my man, my
Speaker 1: Manikee he his his brother Lamar used to wrap so
Speaker 1: Ike to cope with the grief, took his rap book
Speaker 1: and started saying his wraps. And then my grandma she
Speaker 1: died in leukemia. Uh eighty nine. So I started writing
Speaker 1: because I saw how it helped Ike, you know, uh
Speaker 1: processing and and cope with the cope with the grief.
Speaker 1: So that's how I actually started rapping, and um Q
Speaker 1: to mom um actually so what I was doing. And
Speaker 1: definitely she was like a cheerleader the tip as far
Speaker 1: as eventually me uh giving being given the opportunity in
Speaker 1: ninety three. But to do the shase part too, shout out,
Speaker 1: shout out to Mama Davis, your kid, to mothers and sisters. Na,
Speaker 1: we were second were second cousins. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's a it's a, it's a. I moved to
Speaker 1: New York from California eight you know, so I had
Speaker 1: connected with a bunch of family back on the East Coast.
Speaker 1: My mom and popad Opops was in the Navy, so
Speaker 1: we was living in San Diego, stationed out there. My
Speaker 1: mom de Pops eventually divorce and then we came back
Speaker 1: to came back to the East. But y'all, I was
Speaker 1: froming New York originally and didn't move from while I'm
Speaker 1: from New York and my sister was born in San Diego. Okay, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: So that's how that that's how. Yes, I actually got
Speaker 1: a six one, six one nine number. I'm about to
Speaker 1: turn off, but I got a six one number. Um,
Speaker 1: just and and how much to that time period? Right,
Speaker 1: So let's let's not let's go over because, like I said,
Speaker 1: there's a couple of interviews with you out there now.
Speaker 1: We're doing drink chances of all, when we spoke, right,
Speaker 1: we said this was gonna be queens all day doing
Speaker 1: nothing Already I'm not doing you know, let'sen get to
Speaker 1: the point. Let's get let's get the one point. I
Speaker 1: see the Kanye documentary, Okay, I hit you. I thought
Speaker 1: you hit me, but I hate you, right, I hit you,
Speaker 1: And I was like, yo, bro, this was this is
Speaker 1: dope man. And I couldn't tell. But I kind of
Speaker 1: thought that you didn't like it from the first episode.
Speaker 1: I don't remember we spoke since then, right, But um, well,
Speaker 1: my take on it. You know, there's a business side
Speaker 1: to it, and there's obviously there's a personal and there's
Speaker 1: a just a perspective from living in you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. The business side, Um, I ain't working with
Speaker 1: certain niggers because of that. But when you say business
Speaker 1: the way it was put together the documentary or I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna be on Netflix and I don't get no check,
Speaker 1: that's that's against my principle, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like when he gave you the intro, you know, Rollercoast
Speaker 1: to this, that and the thrub. But once again, I've
Speaker 1: always been able to retain uh ownership of what I
Speaker 1: do how I do it, my likeness, so forth and
Speaker 1: so on. So when someone takes that, it takes it
Speaker 1: upon themselves not to I just saw the way. But dinner, right,
Speaker 1: I just signed a way to be on Netflix. I
Speaker 1: signed a way to be on the volt So I
Speaker 1: gotta sign a way. But to be on Netflix, that's
Speaker 1: that's business. I don't got nothing to do. But but
Speaker 1: but who who do we point to finger for? That?
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it you? Because now it's not yet.
Speaker 1: So let's just be clear, right, actually does great business,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You know, I tipped my
Speaker 1: hat to him. You know, even from the outside looking interview,
Speaker 1: if anybody knew the extent of our relationship, we've done
Speaker 1: great business over then Yeah, it's been as a road coaster.
Speaker 1: You're dealing with some a person, uh who's who a
Speaker 1: bus through certain frontiers for um, not only yourself, but
Speaker 1: for for the culture. You know. So that's gonna come
Speaker 1: with that's gonna come with growing pains. I was with
Speaker 1: you from when you've seen in the documentary, like literally
Speaker 1: when we he was trying to figure out all falls down.
Speaker 1: But that's him trying to figure it out. That's the
Speaker 1: first day that that was maybe like the fourth time
Speaker 1: I was with Kanye. That was the first time I
Speaker 1: met any of those people. So the thing was like
Speaker 1: when you hit me, I was just like taking it
Speaker 1: all in and you had you knew because it's guy,
Speaker 1: I believe I would see we're skipping things, were skipping things.
Speaker 1: Because the one thing about the documentary is like, Yo,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I had already been
Speaker 1: on David Letterman, I had already been on Moisha, I
Speaker 1: had already been on Rosie O'donnald, I had already been
Speaker 1: on all that. You know, I just hit I hit
Speaker 1: a bad term with with Tribe, but I had already
Speaker 1: I was already for all in sense of purposes famous,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So the thing, one thing
Speaker 1: in particular for me was just like you know, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you know, like I love
Speaker 1: all my oh the fam that came as far as
Speaker 1: like me and Kanye Lincoln. But you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of times sometimes people think I am actually from Chicago
Speaker 1: and I actually started with Kanye, which I could understand
Speaker 1: because the thing about hip hop is like we all
Speaker 1: we all we all document hip hop once once we
Speaker 1: pick up on it. Right, So hip hop starts for
Speaker 1: for the beginning for you, whenever the beginning is for you, Like, um,
Speaker 1: I've had conversations us whatever success start like people don't
Speaker 1: people know we kind of right before l A l A.
Speaker 1: People start my career from l A because that's the first,
Speaker 1: that's that, that's the beacon point for that, right. But
Speaker 1: you know I've had I've had certain rappers in this
Speaker 1: era that the front of era tell me they didn't
Speaker 1: know who g rap was at all, which for me,
Speaker 1: it's it's blasphemy, right, you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: you know, we know g Rap as one of the
Speaker 1: pioneers of of all bars you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: of storytelling and bars that like he was like saying
Speaker 1: ship that was just ahead of his time, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So once again it sped back to
Speaker 1: that situation with the documentary. Um so for me seeing it,
Speaker 1: for me, it was, you know, like it wasn't fully
Speaker 1: explained how me a mad the deal we have Range
Speaker 1: and its Kanye documentary. So it's fine. I don't have
Speaker 1: no issue with Cod and Coody and cheek as it's
Speaker 1: it's about what they didn't feel. It like that. So
Speaker 1: the issue then becomes that this Kanye documentary then for
Speaker 1: the average person, that's the way they looked at, right,
Speaker 1: And that's the thing. Once someone takes it in on
Speaker 1: a platform like Netflix, they're gonna they're gonna make the
Speaker 1: assentience that this is this is the truth, this is
Speaker 1: this is what, this is the occurrence of events and
Speaker 1: how it went. So so yeah, I mean and I
Speaker 1: said it. I said it to Coody and check in
Speaker 1: their face. I went to the s ob Joint crash
Speaker 1: they whatever. I was like, yo, Like at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I don't have it. I've been on TV,
Speaker 1: like you said, so I understand the process of when
Speaker 1: a network takes to create if and they apply edit
Speaker 1: into it. They do it with Love and hip Hop.
Speaker 1: You you a film, I don't know. You might film
Speaker 1: the whole week, right, and you might get four minutes
Speaker 1: of that in the episode. Now this is the problem.
Speaker 1: Back to Loving hip Hop for a second. No matter
Speaker 1: what Love and Hip Hop does, when you sign that contract,
Speaker 1: if you appear in the episode, you get paid. I
Speaker 1: appeared in three episodes in That of a Genius and
Speaker 1: didn't get a dollar. So how am I supposed to
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Speaker 1: because it's serious, But I want to light nothing to move,
Speaker 1: but we'll stay on the subject. Is it always all
Speaker 1: about money? Yes? Absolutely, set it's absolutely with nobody. That's
Speaker 1: absolutely about that paper because me, I don't got nothing
Speaker 1: to do. See this is the thing, right, I didn't
Speaker 1: come into wrap to be friends with nobody. I can't
Speaker 1: get this money from queens. This queens get the money.
Speaker 1: There's not queens play no game. So where's my money? Right? Right?
Speaker 1: So let me be there was advocate. You can put
Speaker 1: the horns on ahead, Okay, okay, because in all fairness,
Speaker 1: this is when you like, not y'all, but y'all first
Speaker 1: met each other. So there wasn't open more. Right, So
Speaker 1: even in context, let's break it down, right, So this
Speaker 1: is when we first met. There wasn't Netflix. So even
Speaker 1: if I were to saw something, then it went whole way.
Speaker 1: Now at the end of the day, there was no
Speaker 1: streaming platforms. This is gonna stream for fetuity. Bro, Listen,
Speaker 1: let's I get it there out of jail with the
Speaker 1: loyal liburry. I know a family, feel me. I've been
Speaker 1: doing contracts since drive your bro. It's checkmate. I need
Speaker 1: my paper right but and again, and that's for principle.
Speaker 1: I don't need it because I need it. I need
Speaker 1: it over principle. You know what I'm saying. It's just
Speaker 1: it's just, how are you gonna do If you're gonna
Speaker 1: do business with your friends, do business with your friends.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna do somebody else like that? And then
Speaker 1: tell him, you know you you make friends over business.
Speaker 1: But I've seen a lot of people make friends over
Speaker 1: business and then break up friendships over lack of business. Okay,
Speaker 1: but I'll see you a curve ball because you were
Speaker 1: the only one, like when I when I heard that,
Speaker 1: and then I'm always the only one, by the way, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm always the only one, and I've been the only one.
Speaker 1: I'm the only one I ever joined trial. Wow wow,
Speaker 1: But I'm not. I'm the only one you would even
Speaker 1: consider to let right anything. I am the only one.
Speaker 1: I'm the one that it was interested because, um, the
Speaker 1: same thing. I believe I spoke to you. It was
Speaker 1: only the first episode, was out right. It was not.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know there was another episode. I thought
Speaker 1: that was just the whole documentary. That's what I'm saluting you.
Speaker 1: And I didn't see your point. Actually me too, because
Speaker 1: you was the first person to hit me about it,
Speaker 1: so I didn't know what the whole layout was. And
Speaker 1: like I said, it's due to the fact that I've
Speaker 1: done the kind of business that I've done that I
Speaker 1: have a point of reference of how to be treated.
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not. It's not my documentary. It's it's
Speaker 1: not consequence of documentaries. It's Kanye's or it's Kanye cooties. However,
Speaker 1: the creative part of it goes. I have no issue
Speaker 1: with that at all. I have an issue with from
Speaker 1: being able to oberstrate operate as a from an admin
Speaker 1: side that there's no clarences, there's no check cut, there's
Speaker 1: no nothing, there's no and there's no getting around that.
Speaker 1: But put the hat on the other side for why
Speaker 1: this is, louis why what if? What if you had
Speaker 1: footage and I'm sure you probably got some footage. You
Speaker 1: know what I said was I'll pay for it over
Speaker 1: my career. There's no other side. I mean telling ill said,
Speaker 1: well something, I had to pay for it, to pay
Speaker 1: James Brown um far pre sent and ten thousand dollars
Speaker 1: for hey you La Collins. He didn't even say it
Speaker 1: is the state wanteds in thousand. That's the game. That
Speaker 1: is the game. That's the game we're playing. We're not
Speaker 1: this is the music business. This is not you know
Speaker 1: we obviously once again here let me put something out
Speaker 1: to you on the reel. Had I got a request
Speaker 1: or been asked by people who have relationships with I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have this position. I didn't go to the screen. Now,
Speaker 1: I didn't get an invite this, So there's nothing for
Speaker 1: me documentary. Okay, you know what I'm saying. So if
Speaker 1: we it's not about to your point you're saying, it's
Speaker 1: not it's everything about the money because the other side
Speaker 1: of that is the relationship. Right, But how is their
Speaker 1: relationship with our communication? Right? If you don't communicate, you
Speaker 1: can't take the relationship for granted, and you can't create
Speaker 1: a relationship that's not there. My relationship is with Kanye West.
Speaker 1: That's who you saw me with numerous times. So my
Speaker 1: relationship is with him. If Kanye come to me and
Speaker 1: say can I get a concession, it's a no brainer.
Speaker 1: If somebody just takes something to run with it, they're
Speaker 1: actually a thief. It's called professional courtesy, right because you
Speaker 1: actually were doing the work for hire for Kanye at
Speaker 1: that time, and and it's no respect to the brand
Speaker 1: value of where it stands right now, Like I just
Speaker 1: wanna I just want to grab me with Kanye for Hurricane.
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to task somebody take something from me. I
Speaker 1: don't make no sense, no way, no how because let
Speaker 1: me's just like one second the same day I supposed
Speaker 1: to live quality and because he was in the same episode, right,
Speaker 1: So I supposed to you expected him to kind of
Speaker 1: have the same attitude, and you know, Kanye had just
Speaker 1: kind of like this stuff, right, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about that. So when I said to him, if
Speaker 1: you don't talk about that. So when I said to him,
Speaker 1: did you know I'm gonna be honest with you? He
Speaker 1: didn't know neither. But he didn't say what you said.
Speaker 1: He was Now, but you got to understand something. When
Speaker 1: Kanye come up here like like dark Man and start
Speaker 1: emptying the clip, right, but he busting that certain niggas
Speaker 1: because of how they move, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he that might not have been concerning him.
Speaker 1: That's a concern of mind. What I'm saying, that's a
Speaker 1: concern of mom because me and Kanye you have does
Speaker 1: so much business together that it's a no brain. No.
Speaker 1: He Kanye ain't never tweet like cass Is bugging for
Speaker 1: what he said on something and suthing about the documentary.
Speaker 1: N he not because he knows it's a buck so
Speaker 1: a whole mill walking really keep going, yeah, okay man,
Speaker 1: this is good. It's good, this is good, this is good.
Speaker 1: So have you spoken to you sinter genus. Are you
Speaker 1: spoken to people around him? I'm sure. I mean we
Speaker 1: have we me and Kanye. Uh, you know, we UM
Speaker 1: were number one. Certain things I could devote into public,
Speaker 1: Certain things I can't just because of our venice arrangements.
Speaker 1: But you know, UM, I mean he actually kind of
Speaker 1: alluded to it when he UM put up a G
Speaker 1: post and he shouted out point Pat. He said, point
Speaker 1: Pat wasn't in the documentary, and he was an intricate
Speaker 1: part of UM Kanye's sustainability as all the way around
Speaker 1: the board, you know, creatively, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He was like, you know, if I had five, I
Speaker 1: think he said something to the CENTERF I had five,
Speaker 1: if my fingers were friends planning, Pat is one of
Speaker 1: my fingers. I only got four fingers left, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Um so into you know. And he
Speaker 1: also said that, you know, he felt a way about
Speaker 1: people clowning up off them, you know. And I could
Speaker 1: understand that because like even when I went to the
Speaker 1: s obs UM when I went to the s O
Speaker 1: B said clouding up, clouding up. So even when I
Speaker 1: went to the s O B's um, the sneaky, the
Speaker 1: sneaky uh, um screening. You know when I walked in there,
Speaker 1: everybody looked like they were in trouble, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. It was like it wasn't like you know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't like oh you know, it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: she hain't called us screening for part two or for
Speaker 1: episode two O. The l A screening was episode one.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, um, you know, and I performed good, bad, ugly,
Speaker 1: and you know, like the thing is that what you
Speaker 1: was using? Like that you performed They asked me to though, ho,
Speaker 1: I gott stand up a little bit like, no, not
Speaker 1: venice business. It's all business, nor its none of this
Speaker 1: is personal. None of this is personal. So so at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it produced if I go
Speaker 1: on stage, right, they all get. It wasn't like yo,
Speaker 1: what you do don't here? It was like, oh you here.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I'm like, yo, but y'are doing the
Speaker 1: way you're doing. The whole is not on front Street, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Because at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, like even take take like the situation with Shaka,
Speaker 1: I don't know she knew she was gonna end up
Speaker 1: looking like she ain't believing you. Okay, I'm saying right, right,
Speaker 1: So even when Wayno was out here saying like yo, well,
Speaker 1: because that's the that's the thing, Like, it was like
Speaker 1: a whole wave that ain't had nothing to do with
Speaker 1: nobody who was actually there in that capacity, and they
Speaker 1: none of them was at don none of them was
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Right. So so if you meet it kind
Speaker 1: of looked like shaker, like a soul shaker, you might
Speaker 1: be upset, you know what I'm saying you You you
Speaker 1: might feel like this is your way to bust a lane.
Speaker 1: But it's almost at the expense of a body who
Speaker 1: really get down, who really worked, who really been in
Speaker 1: the trenches with Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: so because at the end of the day, regardless, the
Speaker 1: end result of uh Kanye's record deal with Rocketfeller was
Speaker 1: the release of the college Dropout. Right, that's the world.
Speaker 1: So so the thing is, once again, like I said,
Speaker 1: you're gonna go through growing pains in any relationship. A
Speaker 1: lot of people people fall in love with the final product,
Speaker 1: not the conveyor belt. Right, So if they fell in
Speaker 1: love with the college dropout, then by default then they there, Yo,
Speaker 1: I was doing this. You know what I'm saying, they
Speaker 1: gave me an opportunity to you know, what's so funny
Speaker 1: because at one point when I was signed, I was
Speaker 1: still signed a C tip through the owner, like I
Speaker 1: was supposed to sign a rocketeller. That's why I was
Speaker 1: so ironic. Well I'm not saying it's supposed to but
Speaker 1: Jay was very interested in picking me up. And it's
Speaker 1: funny that Jay's kind of always been me and Jay.
Speaker 1: I met Jay Z at the Gavin and we always
Speaker 1: always um kind of intermingled. We never had like a
Speaker 1: one to one direct relationship, but we always kind of
Speaker 1: inter mingo. So we're just so funny. It was like
Speaker 1: he spoke to Que about me, and you know, at
Speaker 1: the time, me and me and Q was going through
Speaker 1: a lot of personal things, so I didn't we didn't
Speaker 1: go that route, but I ended up kind of going
Speaker 1: that direction anyway. So just very ironic and like and
Speaker 1: and you know, like, and I'm saying this because I'm
Speaker 1: actually uh saluting Jay because you know, we've had we've
Speaker 1: we've had on share of trouble, but um, he's always
Speaker 1: seen the value in what I brought to the table.
Speaker 1: He took a shot at you on anybody was up
Speaker 1: on Z. I'm like, uh yeah, I mean yeah at
Speaker 1: the time, because it was it was up, you still
Speaker 1: think that though the time it was up, at the
Speaker 1: time it was now I'm look, look, here's the thing, right,
Speaker 1: when when it was when when we were going through
Speaker 1: what we were going through was the transition period, and
Speaker 1: me and Kanye had to have this conversation in private.
Speaker 1: You know, some of it is kind of you know,
Speaker 1: has obviously been in the public at the time. You know.
Speaker 1: The the hard thing about Kanye as my brother, right
Speaker 1: is that it's hard. It's it's hard when people will
Speaker 1: do anything to be next to him, right, So I've
Speaker 1: seen artists like literally, I mean you know, people just
Speaker 1: will do anything to be next to Kanye West. It's
Speaker 1: just a real thing, you know, especially it was so
Speaker 1: you so so look, here's the thing, right, It wasn't
Speaker 1: no easies for me back then. It was the sketch
Speaker 1: pad of him drawing sneakers, you understand, deep, So before
Speaker 1: it was something to be on a friends and family
Speaker 1: list for it was just idea dream. It was before
Speaker 1: it was getting out our dreams. It was I have
Speaker 1: dreams I want to get out right, and he and
Speaker 1: I essentially became like Squam partners on the mic, you know,
Speaker 1: and it it actually worked. You know, he had he
Speaker 1: was he he always Kanye has never been a person
Speaker 1: that was struggling for money. You know, his mars was
Speaker 1: well to do as far as having influence and having
Speaker 1: having a great career in Chicago. So he he was.
Speaker 1: I never met car I've never seen Kanye struggle. I've
Speaker 1: never seen none of that boat. But when he came
Speaker 1: to Polo, I mean, I mean before the pink Polo
Speaker 1: was part of the product. I mean when I met him,
Speaker 1: you know, he had a bands, he wanted the bigger bands.
Speaker 1: He had dreams that he wanted to see see coming
Speaker 1: to fruition, and he just it was it was more
Speaker 1: about having the tools. Um. So, so when I said
Speaker 1: earlier about him me being the one that he would
Speaker 1: he would actually rap with, take rap from etcetera, etcetera, etcetera,
Speaker 1: It's real. It's at you know, at one point we
Speaker 1: developed a comfort level to where it was like yo, yo,
Speaker 1: help me with this wrong with that joint, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Remember I did UM. I had wrote
Speaker 1: a record UM that we we wanted to submit for
Speaker 1: UM little Kim, and she wound up using the choruses
Speaker 1: called came Back for You so on Labella, the owner
Speaker 1: Labella Mafia album actually wrote came up with the idea
Speaker 1: for the chorus. Um, and I had rhyms that I
Speaker 1: wanted Kim to take. What Kim was very specific about
Speaker 1: not taking. Wanted to have a ghostwriter at that time
Speaker 1: or whatever. And you know, but the ship was firing. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, Kanye definitely was like, you know, I had
Speaker 1: to do the Brandy joint. Uh that man and man,
Speaker 1: he had to do the Brandy job. He gave the
Speaker 1: record man, you know, no, and you know the fans
Speaker 1: Watson this no, you know what I mean. You know,
Speaker 1: I got the shades on all and hit you with
Speaker 1: the wing wing, but you know what I mean. Um,
Speaker 1: So so that that for begin with what that's what
Speaker 1: began a level of trust, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: between he and I. You know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: and we made a lot of other but like my
Speaker 1: point was, I have had to see a lot of
Speaker 1: people try to do a lot of things just to
Speaker 1: get in that position. And it wasn't something that I
Speaker 1: ever I ever did. I never did that. I never.
Speaker 1: I never was, like, I never was on that because
Speaker 1: I didn't really have to be, because it was when
Speaker 1: we developed our relationship. Did you guys connect? We we
Speaker 1: met right after he did the Blueprint. Um we were
Speaker 1: introduced uh through to each other from by Ad eight Keys. Um.
Speaker 1: I met Ad eight Keys back in the Tribe days. Um,
Speaker 1: he was just you know, he had a relationship with
Speaker 1: Q Tip. They would um a T eight I believe
Speaker 1: worked at a record store, I want to say, and
Speaker 1: Q Tip would go there to get vinyl at the
Speaker 1: time when that was that was the thing with sampling
Speaker 1: or whatever. Um. But AD eight did beats. He was
Speaker 1: trying to get him more. So he called Q Tip's
Speaker 1: crib one day, introduced himself like, yeah, I got beat.
Speaker 1: You know, one thing led to another. I still lived
Speaker 1: in Queens, so I took a trip out to go
Speaker 1: check him, and he had joints and we just became
Speaker 1: friends over time. He just yeah, yeah. So and then
Speaker 1: this is this is the during the recording of beach
Speaker 1: Rims of Life, going into like what would be my
Speaker 1: solo record that didn't the first product that I've made
Speaker 1: that never had came out. It was that was supposed
Speaker 1: to come out through cuts label, the Museum music real
Speaker 1: quick fun fact beat training, left artwork same right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: shout out the game, not just definitely shout understand. I
Speaker 1: actually spoke to him, um, because I wound up. I
Speaker 1: think there was a beach round the Life and there
Speaker 1: was a beach round the Life anniversary and somebody at
Speaker 1: a scam and I was like, I hadn't seen him
Speaker 1: in yet. Um. And then I saw the drink chance look,
Speaker 1: I said, And then I remembered he's from Miami, the local.
Speaker 1: How do you know he did it? It's on the stage. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's on the stage. He just looked at right. Um,
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean. So eight eight keys,
Speaker 1: so fast forward. Um, it's right at the nine eleven. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I had a deal at rock As that fell through.
Speaker 1: So you're talking about the roller coaster. So like I'm
Speaker 1: popped pop Plezzy, you know what I'm saying. Um. And
Speaker 1: come two thousands and two January eight called me. You know,
Speaker 1: he was like, um, yo, I got a friend of mine,
Speaker 1: um that I just did a joint for and he
Speaker 1: would like we were talking about who could be a
Speaker 1: feature on it, and I brought you in the name
Speaker 1: up and his name is Kanye's knees. You might have
Speaker 1: heard him when he did he did uh a lot
Speaker 1: of the blueprint for jay Z and and another friend
Speaker 1: of miney Um Hans Elder who's uh d dots from
Speaker 1: Crazy uh Devik Angeli's cousin Um had brought him up
Speaker 1: in a conversation and said at the time that me
Speaker 1: and to me and Kanye were very similar. Um. It
Speaker 1: fars like his resonation of music like you get like
Speaker 1: you guys remind me a lot of each other. I
Speaker 1: think it would be cool if y'all hooked up. But
Speaker 1: it was a conversation, yeah, yeah, it was like a premonition,
Speaker 1: like aative tongue sound almost like saying the native tongue
Speaker 1: of sound like both of y'all kind of seemed like
Speaker 1: y'all belonging lative tongue um a more specific to than
Speaker 1: each other, Like, well, I am from the native tongue.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. No, no, we're saying, but
Speaker 1: from the native you know what I'm saying. I mean,
Speaker 1: And I wasn't specifically to the happiness of every member
Speaker 1: of the native tongue, but nonetheless it is what it is.
Speaker 1: It's queens get the money. I can't get it like
Speaker 1: Kindred Spirits right right because because at the time, so
Speaker 1: like the sensibility of sampling, Um, the the Lauren unplugged
Speaker 1: joint is a native tongue sensibility for for all falls,
Speaker 1: you know, like the drum pattern to all fold down
Speaker 1: is a native tongue sensibility. But but you know, I
Speaker 1: think the thing that makes Kanye him also is the
Speaker 1: fact that he's able to jump in and out of
Speaker 1: lanes when it comes to production, especially you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, so the women, and he'll have that sensibility,
Speaker 1: but then could still make um stand up for Luda,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, um or or um obviously
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, which does have those same sensibilities.
Speaker 1: But he was able to be the production of to
Speaker 1: where it could go at radio as well. Um. But
Speaker 1: the native tom sensibility is is at core a cultural things.
Speaker 1: So it's like the culture of what the sound is
Speaker 1: in and the musicality. So um, So that's how we
Speaker 1: met that we met the ad in case um I
Speaker 1: did the feature, he offered to pay me three thousand
Speaker 1: or or he would be willing to cut. He would
Speaker 1: be willing up beats. Yeah, let me get first pick.
Speaker 1: So I never I never boiled him about the three
Speaker 1: thousand and like I said before, literally eight off for
Speaker 1: that three thousand for the rest of my life look
Speaker 1: for that guy. So, like I said, I watched these
Speaker 1: three interviews and it was crazy because it was like
Speaker 1: one where you was like real, real, like upset at
Speaker 1: all them from Joe was to to uh, to even
Speaker 1: hope because you don't hold a shot at you talking
Speaker 1: about like that. I never was upset with pump it Up.
Speaker 1: I never was upset with pumping up. I just felt
Speaker 1: like pumping up came out of his faith. So moving before,
Speaker 1: I don't want to do nothing about pump it up,
Speaker 1: I said. I got a new single out Blood staying
Speaker 1: I can't argue about pump it up. Jesus Jesus. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I can't, man, come on, pump it off. Uh, God,
Speaker 1: you're turning was I don't want how to pump it up.
Speaker 1: I stripped out the party. Hurricane say I've about it up?
Speaker 1: Would you when you can do verses against what don't
Speaker 1: do against pump it up? I called your body man
Speaker 1: when I pump it up, So what are you gonna
Speaker 1: I'm not like I said, no, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: argue about p I U why it is what it is?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like that's it, but no verses.
Speaker 1: Let's let me see your marian like they right, you
Speaker 1: see j W you want him to do pump it
Speaker 1: up and me to see the ship. I wasn't ready
Speaker 1: with that. That ship. Let's move alight. So I wrapped.
Speaker 1: I wrapped back to back with busting rhymes on tribe
Speaker 1: out him. I'm so to come on like we gotta
Speaker 1: put some respect, like I'm channeling bird Man. I'm channeling
Speaker 1: bird Man. We got we got to you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you know that whole situation was love
Speaker 1: and hip hop and hip hop, right, but let's let's
Speaker 1: be real like outside of loving hip hop, like yo,
Speaker 1: if you run through mine? But you know what a
Speaker 1: rhyme though you can't say say I never said I
Speaker 1: told him to a face you could rap. I never
Speaker 1: said Joe can't wrap it. I'm just saying, when you're
Speaker 1: going act, there's a difference between rapping and hits. He
Speaker 1: got a lot of mix tapes, though, so do I.
Speaker 1: I gotta take him to the cleaners. I like this,
Speaker 1: like wh I'm talking so to all, I gotta take
Speaker 1: him to the cleaners. That's the best mixtapes the whole time.
Speaker 1: Like I put Kno More on a mixtape before anybody
Speaker 1: did talk. I got Magmillan mixtape. I got a bunch
Speaker 1: of mixtapes. I got a bunch of hits too, and
Speaker 1: I got three being my awards. Chunky, we respect that
Speaker 1: I wrote. Next. John Legard is rapping on my first album.
Speaker 1: But don't front moved music. Come on, you front the movies.
Speaker 1: You that when I say that was your chef. You know, Queasy,
Speaker 1: I told you what he was gonna be with that.
Speaker 1: You're like women, I'm just trying to look like people
Speaker 1: halfways defend people ain't here. You know. It ain't about defend.
Speaker 1: I just said, yo, yo, it ain't about defend it.
Speaker 1: I know Webbing Nitty personally, those are my man. We will.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was the first thing
Speaker 1: in the hood to be able to take nigga to
Speaker 1: the tunnel. You know what I'm saying. I took niggas. Listen,
Speaker 1: Chris Lighty daughter is here. That's my family. I lived
Speaker 1: with Chris Lighty at one point, me and my mom
Speaker 1: doesn't getting along because she didn't understand the whole rap
Speaker 1: dynamic at the time. I'm staying out late. I'm eighteen
Speaker 1: in tribal I'm eighteen in a trial coal quest. They
Speaker 1: got nominated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: I am not arguing over nobody's mixed respectable. If we're
Speaker 1: gonna give me my flowers, I like I listen, Listen,
Speaker 1: respect listen. I like potpourri with a dash and daisy.
Speaker 1: Give me mom, Let's give me. Let's give us right,
Speaker 1: Let's give me my flowers. A perfect segments. Guy, we
Speaker 1: don't know if you know our shows about giving people
Speaker 1: the motherfucking flowers. And one thing for sure, to think
Speaker 1: your motherfucker legends and you deserve your said it's like
Speaker 1: win a Grammy, But from your peers it's been like
Speaker 1: you know what, Listen, man, I waited a year to
Speaker 1: do drink chance. You know that what I'm saying. Man,
Speaker 1: You know you know we've definitely been with you to
Speaker 1: put it together for a minute, and you know you
Speaker 1: know I would. I'm the culture at the end of
Speaker 1: the day is all we got, you know, what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I can I can
Speaker 1: win whatever validated accolade that comes from the music business.
Speaker 1: But all you only as good as your last game
Speaker 1: out here, you know what I mean. And we know
Speaker 1: that we've watched. We watched the game. Washing nig is up.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Because they didn't stay connected
Speaker 1: to the culture, you know what I mean. So yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I'm taking this home, show this to my son, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put this up on the joint. Tell me so.
Speaker 1: At one point like like like like you said you
Speaker 1: were a good music it was I think, and I
Speaker 1: didn't never go at good music. No, you would didn't
Speaker 1: got good knew that they ain'tybody took it away. I am,
Speaker 1: I am thinkin said that's what's that words. Listen at
Speaker 1: the end of the at the end of the day, right,
Speaker 1: you gotta understand that gave everybody a job. I gave
Speaker 1: everybody a job. And what I gave everybody a job
Speaker 1: through my sacrifice? Can you paid them? But I said,
Speaker 1: I got the weals on my back, nigga, feel me.
Speaker 1: So every Father's Day, I'll deserve a card every everyone
Speaker 1: because at my notes, I got You saved Big Sean
Speaker 1: from getting dropped? Yea one of percent? How does this happen?
Speaker 1: They have a meeting they like, but drop on dignity.
Speaker 1: I ain't ever tell no story about Big Sean that
Speaker 1: I know personally. You know what I'm saying. I'm not him,
Speaker 1: And yeah they did, they want to things up here.
Speaker 1: I ain't here to do that with Sean, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But show was my little Shan was
Speaker 1: my little man when he got sign. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. If you go to YouTube, you'll see Sean
Speaker 1: get introduced as a member of Good Music at my
Speaker 1: show at the Knitted Afterwards, Me Kanye came out of surprise,
Speaker 1: Guests came out of surprise. Guests had Sean and Kid Cutty.
Speaker 1: And that's what they wanted. Like I said, once again,
Speaker 1: to go back to the original point where we got it.
Speaker 1: Like certain people do whatever to get next to yea
Speaker 1: yea John having to be at the radio station. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But Shawn ain't eat Boston Market
Speaker 1: with Yeah I did. There wasn't no craft services when
Speaker 1: I was around. It wasn't no yeasy, There wasn't no
Speaker 1: none of that half a chicken on the whole chicken.
Speaker 1: Come on, I'm starving a half a chicken en listen
Speaker 1: on even requests. O MA, please just make it. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? With the breast man, that's it.
Speaker 1: Other than that man, it was that and and in
Speaker 1: the front and in in a trolley magrimony and cheesy
Speaker 1: twenty dollars twenty dollar holiday. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I watched niggers in Atlanta line up with place motherfucker
Speaker 1: and all the mimosas, and I'm getting up first and
Speaker 1: going to bed last, still twenty years later, putting in
Speaker 1: that work. We got the chip though, I always putting
Speaker 1: the work for the Chip Grammy family. Yeah, goddamn oh no,
Speaker 1: it can be worked with Beyonce. In fact, goddamnit right,
Speaker 1: worked the Beyonce and worked with Faith, So probably one
Speaker 1: of the only mcs that ever worked with Biggie and
Speaker 1: jay Z's wives holler at me. I didn't look at
Speaker 1: it like that, sir, I didn't. And they both were singles.
Speaker 1: They was an album cause stressed out his single number
Speaker 1: one that urban right, I mean, I'm the one nigger
Speaker 1: all right, right? So how do you and I believe
Speaker 1: you call him Kamal, will be honest with you, I'm
Speaker 1: never gonna call him Kamal. His name is q Tip
Speaker 1: to me for the rest of the I'm never calling
Speaker 1: like people calling him talk like who but blah blah. Family.
Speaker 1: You know my mom a family's outside fairly looking at
Speaker 1: But you said, I think he was in mad Camar.
Speaker 1: Excuse me. He was mad at cute Tip one day
Speaker 1: and we was talking and he was like, come on,
Speaker 1: mad at cut more than one day. But I didn't know.
Speaker 1: You know, how did you all as cousins for because
Speaker 1: once again, because we because because of because there's a
Speaker 1: thin line, you know. And and there's definitely I think
Speaker 1: the number one the number one UM emotion for artists,
Speaker 1: um that makes them kind of go, it's disappointment, you know.
Speaker 1: So there's been yeah, one, there's been times that I've
Speaker 1: been disappointed, But there's times that there's the acute tim
Speaker 1: is brought the kind of the kind of opportunities to
Speaker 1: my life that I can't measure even with joy, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So when y'all that close at
Speaker 1: one time, at one point in my life, my name
Speaker 1: was Ray Tip. That's how close me and me and
Speaker 1: Q Tip are you know so we yeah, we we
Speaker 1: were going through a lot, you know, we you know,
Speaker 1: and took tip credit right, you know Tip. It's funny.
Speaker 1: That's why I mentioned his mom's first and foremost, because
Speaker 1: he said to me, my mom's always knew you was
Speaker 1: the one. You know what I'm saying, you know, and
Speaker 1: now she's she's she's getting older, and um, you know,
Speaker 1: we can't take none of that time for granted. So
Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, you know, definitely comes see man,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, supporting it is important because
Speaker 1: she she she did call that. And so him saying
Speaker 1: that was that you you're the one that she basically
Speaker 1: selling You're the one. He he's the one used to
Speaker 1: take a chance on, you know. So two cute tips
Speaker 1: credit right, Um, without me going in the trial, I
Speaker 1: never meet Kanye, and I never meet Kanye. We don't
Speaker 1: what happens, right because Kanye, you know, I feel like
Speaker 1: Kanye was always gonna Kanye is always gonna be successful.
Speaker 1: He's a successful person, so he understands what it takes
Speaker 1: to be successful. But I do. I mean, he's even
Speaker 1: acknowledged that, you know, and especially in the beginning, you know,
Speaker 1: he and not being around together. You know, it was
Speaker 1: very much. I was very influential in the swag, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And so you know how I
Speaker 1: look at it, you know, because I have no I
Speaker 1: don't have any venom unless somebody comes at me. And
Speaker 1: you know that that that comes about because the q tip.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because you know, if q
Speaker 1: Tim doesn't say, you know what, I'm going to roll
Speaker 1: the dice on this kid. I'm going to regardless of relationship,
Speaker 1: you still gotta be able to hold it. And I
Speaker 1: think q T knew I could hold it. And that's
Speaker 1: what his mom was saying, like she knew I could
Speaker 1: hold it. She's like, I'm telling you give it to him.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be able to hold it. I held it
Speaker 1: for beach round like him. Out of ninety six twenty
Speaker 1: six years, I've held it and and it's been a
Speaker 1: mechanical bull. So it's like you know you hold no,
Speaker 1: you're holding it though, you know what I mean. Um,
Speaker 1: it's so many of my peers that started before me
Speaker 1: or even after me. Um, you know, they don't have
Speaker 1: a they don't have a firm for hole in music,
Speaker 1: they don't do what it seems like for the outside
Speaker 1: looking at it, and sorry to cut you off. It
Speaker 1: seems like when you someone's friends, you someone's friends friend me, yes,
Speaker 1: you friend to the end of one. But if anything happened,
Speaker 1: Nigga's coming down here, just that I'm not seeing. The
Speaker 1: thing is I'm just not a yes sir man. I'm
Speaker 1: not a yes sir. Fall in line, I an't gonna say.
Speaker 1: I ain't yes man. I'll tell yeah, I said, keep
Speaker 1: on the what I'm saying, But I ain't yes sir.
Speaker 1: Bow Nigga hit your head. Now. There's only one now
Speaker 1: about too, and that's the most high. So it don't
Speaker 1: matter when when when they get to a point where
Speaker 1: the most highing involved no more, then it's up. That's
Speaker 1: how I feel, you know what I'm saying. So when
Speaker 1: when we're do an ego, that's not the most high
Speaker 1: nor more are dealing blessings. I felt like when Kanye
Speaker 1: got on you know, I'm Muslim, but I felt like
Speaker 1: his him making Jesus walks was a positive thing and
Speaker 1: a blessing, you know what I'm saying, Because at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, where he was but but and
Speaker 1: and and just the fact of trying to engage a
Speaker 1: mass audience into us, into into us, into the consciousness
Speaker 1: of the soul. So, you know, because at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, you just don't know who you touch
Speaker 1: when you do music. So when you have a good intention,
Speaker 1: I feel like God will open doors for you, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And I still believe that to
Speaker 1: this day, you know what I'm saying. Um, and so yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so when it when when they turn, when they get
Speaker 1: ungodly like it's like snakey vibes, I don't I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just want to fall out with their cousin though,
Speaker 1: because if anybody could, anybody, anybody could fall victims of
Speaker 1: snakey vibes. The industry did it? Is it like the industry?
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it wasn't over things giving. We
Speaker 1: don't have a problem over mass potatoes. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We had we had you know, you know,
Speaker 1: there's a you know at the end of the day. Um,
Speaker 1: what you know, my thing is like in this platform,
Speaker 1: both Nor and I have worked with the trialal question, right,
Speaker 1: so it would be who either one of us to
Speaker 1: have a conversation about you tipping a negative connotation. I
Speaker 1: just feel like we've got we've had to go through
Speaker 1: things that we've gone through. We going through those things,
Speaker 1: you know, to Tip of the Elder Statesman and hip hop,
Speaker 1: and you know, he deserves his prophecy and he deserves
Speaker 1: his regard absolutely. Like um, one of my favorite styles
Speaker 1: of movies documentaries, and one of the things that stood
Speaker 1: out to me was I always heard of as room
Speaker 1: was like you hear about Ray Fawn and ghost Face beefing,
Speaker 1: or might hear about Prodigy and you know having beefing,
Speaker 1: like we this is always the room of hearing about
Speaker 1: like Q Tip and fight relationship or like how like
Speaker 1: it was kind of like, you know, shaky. But that
Speaker 1: documentary was I think Michael Reportport and Um, that documentary
Speaker 1: was my first time because because when me and polished
Speaker 1: the beef, I just think that was just me and Bone.
Speaker 1: I just be like, yo, know, I mean the groups
Speaker 1: gets along. And when I see this and I was
Speaker 1: like it was two things. One, I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: I thought the Tropical questions perfect people and like and
Speaker 1: this was like the first time I seen them be human,
Speaker 1: and too it related to my own struggle. I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: I wasn't doing first Yeah, so so so. But you
Speaker 1: as an insider, you've been knew that their relationship was
Speaker 1: a little shaky. Damn for how long you think that
Speaker 1: was going on for along? For since our joint tribal
Speaker 1: or what year you say they were going through They
Speaker 1: went through problems after midnight marauders like they all And
Speaker 1: it's so one thing I'm definitely gonna say is like
Speaker 1: you know, and this isn't to blame I don't you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm not gonna say that like that at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, right as as two men
Speaker 1: who who who who were like brothers, never lead never lead,
Speaker 1: um anything or anyone compromised that or blind that bit
Speaker 1: o blind your site to to the bigger picture, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like in hindsight, it was so unnecessary,
Speaker 1: would cause the riff, but but but it was understandable,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like I found out about
Speaker 1: the issue in Atlanta at Fight's house. So I have
Speaker 1: been going to the studio for let's say we started
Speaker 1: recording Beach round the Life February of right, um, so
Speaker 1: by July August of is when I overheard a conversation
Speaker 1: with Fife and True Boys cousin Fudge who he you know,
Speaker 1: god less day he passed away. They were having a
Speaker 1: conversation and basically Fudge it was like, yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: fun with cute to funk that nigga and I initially
Speaker 1: I was like, fuck you talking about you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like who funk you talking about? Like who
Speaker 1: you think you is? Who? Like so as so initially
Speaker 1: like and you know I'm outnumbered. I'm in a career.
Speaker 1: I mean, fight for it. Fight I don't you know,
Speaker 1: I fight? But how the funny thing like I said
Speaker 1: that at the fielding, like I ended up coming down there, um,
Speaker 1: just on a whim. He invited me to come to
Speaker 1: Atlanta for the Boer Superfest that year, so we was all,
Speaker 1: you know, we're having a good time, but we really
Speaker 1: was just kind of getting to know each other like that,
Speaker 1: like that, you know what I'm saying. So when home
Speaker 1: he said it, I was like, you know, I automatically
Speaker 1: to his fight man fight yeah plug plus yeah yeah
Speaker 1: trueoy was truely true gooy cousins. So he said the
Speaker 1: ship and it was already kind of like a funny
Speaker 1: vibe a little bit in the native tongues at that time.
Speaker 1: Because tribe shot to mainstream, critical acclaim and success, they
Speaker 1: was able to be successful. Day Lie you know, shot
Speaker 1: out the gate mainstream and they kind of was maintaining
Speaker 1: that through the next two hour stakes is high in
Speaker 1: the balloon mon State Days saw his dead and and
Speaker 1: and three behind Roser was successful, you know, as we're
Speaker 1: moving on. So they kind of shot out and then
Speaker 1: started blacktowing right try kind of started. They started Elsa Gando,
Speaker 1: then got Timpannita, but he did smash. Then they get
Speaker 1: to can't I kick it? Can I kick it? The smash?
Speaker 1: Then they get the long sum. There was their first single,
Speaker 1: one of the first his video definitely first videos else gone.
Speaker 1: I think they might have it is the Pace come
Speaker 1: out or something. Everybody you know, and and and they
Speaker 1: were on Buddy right, so they were like, so Jungle
Speaker 1: Jungle was the first Jungle Brothers the first out. Jungle
Speaker 1: was the first one. We're gonna want through a psychopleedia.
Speaker 1: My city is on my cities as he's saying that,
Speaker 1: That's why I said, wait a minute, okay, the first
Speaker 1: remember remember Africa's and Living Lords the movie, right, they
Speaker 1: got Girl out House shooting guy a thin. Jungle Brothers
Speaker 1: is worldwide. You know what I'm saying, what with the
Speaker 1: cold following Jungle Brothers like like like it's like eight
Speaker 1: eight eight Grisella. Right, but they got radio records though
Speaker 1: to because they got a girl of househ stuff, which
Speaker 1: is not about what I'm saying. Is like when I
Speaker 1: say they Grisella because they got the show aspect I'm
Speaker 1: talking about Nigga stref not not not night karm. Grisella
Speaker 1: trip is the packed house, right, they got niggas coming
Speaker 1: to na ship. Right, So Jungle Brothers the same ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So then but they ever
Speaker 1: they are able to appall it in the movies and
Speaker 1: and you know red alerts their uncle, red alerts, my
Speaker 1: gene uncle. You know what I'm saying. So they on
Speaker 1: the raiding, they start at the radio, but with them
Speaker 1: call of joints. Right, So Trivis is the dird And
Speaker 1: also remember like you had dressed up dress popping in
Speaker 1: with choices yours right in law, got um got ladies,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's so it's a
Speaker 1: it's a it's a black men Daniel wave. Right. So
Speaker 1: then the thing is, but that it gets it hits
Speaker 1: the ceiling right and then try transitions. They take off
Speaker 1: the dais, they get on some Linda ship. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, check the ram check them y'all back
Speaker 1: in the days on the bulletboard, right, saying that on
Speaker 1: the radio. Right then, scenario it's check the rom it's
Speaker 1: we got the jazz. It's directing the fact beef. It's
Speaker 1: scenario Yeah, yeah, you wanted but saying you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So so I'm just saying that it comes
Speaker 1: to trying and lay down a chronological order. So when
Speaker 1: you get to that conversation, there's all that baggage looming.
Speaker 1: That's all that energy is looming. Because now I come
Speaker 1: into this and I don't know none of this ship.
Speaker 1: I'm a shorty, you know what I'm saying. I know
Speaker 1: about the beef. Obviously that's my family. We the block
Speaker 1: went up with the block was with tip on that one,
Speaker 1: beef not not. Yeah, the blockers in't on that right.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Ship got crazy right right
Speaker 1: right right here? Then yeah, he had to patch of ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like that ship was a
Speaker 1: real wait what they're gonna fight it. Yeah, they gotta fight.
Speaker 1: Prince Pope from Organiztic Fusion was getting jumped at LA
Speaker 1: Music Hall jumped in. They already had the problem, Uh,
Speaker 1: stricky hardcore rap, not a new Jack swing. They had
Speaker 1: a conversation with Fight you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: so that's the rule of the the problem, God bless
Speaker 1: the dead. Fight said what he said, Tip, ain't the
Speaker 1: run of it. That's gonna be a problem. What did
Speaker 1: fight to say? I mean, fight man, fight man, fight Beho,
Speaker 1: nobody over it. We know that you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: What he said, He said that when we got the
Speaker 1: jam strictly hardcore rapping Teddy Rowley and took a fence
Speaker 1: to that. I thought Q Tips said that we just
Speaker 1: na said what I'm saying. And then that's how cute
Speaker 1: had does nah. So once again, like I said, if
Speaker 1: five story is he's seen Rex in the fact and
Speaker 1: v A. They had a conversation about it. They put
Speaker 1: it on ice. Then it was a show fast for
Speaker 1: a couple of months. They there's a short Radio City
Speaker 1: Music Hall trials back they've seen Rex in effect again
Speaker 1: whatever whatever, Now what happened was Rex in effect used
Speaker 1: the room Posse d you know what I'm saying. The
Speaker 1: Posse Deep Niggas was in the lobby and they got
Speaker 1: into it with prins Poe from Organized Confusion Tip for
Speaker 1: some reason whatever wanted and seeing them jumping Prince Poe
Speaker 1: and got into it, and then Posse Deep Niggas like, well,
Speaker 1: you know what, you know what I mean, confusions for
Speaker 1: forty projects right right, one of the same. So it
Speaker 1: was like he's seen the Queen nigga when I was
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So yeah, so that's what
Speaker 1: that's what happened. So what happened was the reason I
Speaker 1: ain't had the black eyes because this is what one
Speaker 1: of the Kniggs had a ring on called him in
Speaker 1: the eye. That then seized up the renda and he
Speaker 1: did the video here to do the video and you
Speaker 1: put the patron damn forgot about all this ship, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So so I'm just saying all
Speaker 1: that to say this is no slander. Just's just just
Speaker 1: just so there's clarity. When a lot had happened, a
Speaker 1: lot of tipisode so so, and a lot continued to happen.
Speaker 1: So by the time I'm having this conversation, they feel
Speaker 1: justified to say that, even though they they when I
Speaker 1: say they it's fudge and fire. They feel justified and
Speaker 1: they start explaining to me, waf is fu tip. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Nigga did this saying my girl,
Speaker 1: but I who I whoa right took this girl? You
Speaker 1: try to slide that day before the d M. It
Speaker 1: was the toll bus talking about the toll bus cars.
Speaker 1: I'm saying before the d M, niggas was sliding the
Speaker 1: toll bus. Not mean closes, you know what I mean
Speaker 1: it sai you know you may gotta only pieces. So
Speaker 1: he slid shorty back back you know, uh with the
Speaker 1: current and this is like on a documentary. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I leaving back there right, Nigga slide on the tool bus.
Speaker 1: Continue No, I mean so I guess the front man
Speaker 1: to trial. He was skinning right, sliding, sliding right. I
Speaker 1: should have caught down slide, you know, I mean, so
Speaker 1: you know, you know, Homi feel like you know it's
Speaker 1: things like the nigger got along, like what's over in
Speaker 1: your camp and you see seems front your b is
Speaker 1: going crazy, right, so nobody nobody in that position feel
Speaker 1: like a nigga is gonna be able to slide day, bitch.
Speaker 1: So when they bit slide, it's like I mean to
Speaker 1: be slid what he now somebody wants they can beat
Speaker 1: for all this bitch. Nigga holes legacy is over a
Speaker 1: bitch and track pains that was in Norty by Nature video. Nigga, Like,
Speaker 1: you gotta be kidding me, man, knock it off, tell
Speaker 1: you some lender ship. Everybody winding was like, knocked that
Speaker 1: ship off. Facts, not man, because it's been when a
Speaker 1: bit she ain't no went around. They ain't no where around.
Speaker 1: I ain't even see that fight funeral god, but the
Speaker 1: dead facts. So that was worth me hearing them. Nigga
Speaker 1: say any of that. Nah, somebody see the thing about
Speaker 1: one thing about me and Kanye. I'm gonna keep it
Speaker 1: a being. No matter what we ever went through, somebody
Speaker 1: lower their wing, and whether it was yeah, yeah, whether
Speaker 1: it was me, you ain't suck each other's bitches neither cold.
Speaker 1: You go get Kim kardash In, Bro. I heard you
Speaker 1: just dropping off the hotel and all that I heard
Speaker 1: about the name. You know it's my nigga, and they
Speaker 1: never gonna be nothing. He's like you said, you said
Speaker 1: you're the most loyal nigger. You would Yeah, so they
Speaker 1: ain't gonna never be nothing like. That's my nigga I want.
Speaker 1: I want my nigga is happy. I want my nigga
Speaker 1: is to thrive. You know what I'm saying, Ain't no,
Speaker 1: ain't no. You know what I'm saying on my end,
Speaker 1: I ain't never had to do that. I always before
Speaker 1: before Rap, before Rap and I in high school, all
Speaker 1: that ship before Rap I was doing me. Man, Cause
Speaker 1: let's be clear, because like what you're saying now is
Speaker 1: very heavy metal because it's basically he basically said that
Speaker 1: the reason why I try I broke up, the reason
Speaker 1: why Tip and five's problem was initially over a y'all
Speaker 1: and y'all we've never heard. In addition to that, to
Speaker 1: the to that altercation after that, after the fight, one
Speaker 1: of was that. And that's why I ain't really fun
Speaker 1: with the Michael Rapport ship because I said that definitely.
Speaker 1: I say it again. I mean, Michael Rapport pay me
Speaker 1: more than when he was gonna supposed to pay anybody
Speaker 1: because I told him I ain't sunk with that, like
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, nobody should have
Speaker 1: ever so that there was a problem. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if niggas got past it, but it never
Speaker 1: never got past it. And the truth if you never
Speaker 1: got past it. I told Fife, we I never got
Speaker 1: the Finnish Atlanta story. So Fifer telling me all this
Speaker 1: ship like yo, he did boom boom boom boom boom. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm eighteen. It's not my best interest to tell Fife
Speaker 1: any advice, right because I don't have a record deal.
Speaker 1: My record deal was cue Tip. Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, I didn't get
Speaker 1: to an advance. You I ain't get nough. I told Fife,
Speaker 1: I said, Yo, if you can't funk with that man,
Speaker 1: leave that man alone. My grandfather told me, never put
Speaker 1: crime in another nigger hand. If you don't funk with
Speaker 1: a nigga, don't funk with him, because if you don't
Speaker 1: funk with him and he fucked you over, you put
Speaker 1: criming that man. You know what I mean, Russell, piece
Speaker 1: of slim Turner, You know what I mean? Like, that's
Speaker 1: what it is. You can't do that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Fight. At the time, he had the Lost
Speaker 1: Moon shit out he had he had, so it wasn't
Speaker 1: like he could have yo yo so low. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, go so if you ain't gonna fun
Speaker 1: with it, if you don't, if you if it's that
Speaker 1: serious for you, why And I'm not saying to leave
Speaker 1: his group that's because that's that wasn't what I was
Speaker 1: trying to say. What I was trying to say is
Speaker 1: as a man, right, I can't you acting like you
Speaker 1: can you can be with somebody who you can't really
Speaker 1: be with. Like sometimes with different niggas, you need to
Speaker 1: give the nigger space. But if you're trying to hold
Speaker 1: the group ship, you got two choices. Put it to
Speaker 1: the side. Put it to the side, or this is
Speaker 1: gonna explode in your face. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I think the ladder wound up happening, even even
Speaker 1: if the trials of life, you know, like you know,
Speaker 1: it was a better sweet for me because I didn't
Speaker 1: have that. I didn't. I didn't. I was looked at
Speaker 1: like I thought the chemistry I didn't funk, no chemistry
Speaker 1: up when they added you to because you because I
Speaker 1: was on so many records that it was perceived like
Speaker 1: you gotta thinks like it was proceeding. And I understand
Speaker 1: the perception, right, because when you got something that you love, right,
Speaker 1: and let's say you're a kid, right and you order
Speaker 1: a happy meal, right and instead of a hamburgers, a
Speaker 1: pastrami sandwich with fries in there. Yo, I asked for this.
Speaker 1: I don't get before what toy isn't it? None of that, Like,
Speaker 1: that's not what I ordered, So by by by by
Speaker 1: midnight Maradas tried was a happy meal. To the public.
Speaker 1: It was like the burger, the fries, the toy to
Speaker 1: drink right, right. They knew what they were getting and
Speaker 1: so when they got beatrons of life, it was like
Speaker 1: a roast beef and cheese with potato chips at McDonald's
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense and a shake I'm other ship on myself.
Speaker 1: It's still good though later, but it when once you
Speaker 1: finally taste it, but you gotta go through the initial
Speaker 1: shot opening the box. Just ain't what I ordered. We
Speaker 1: just scruntled at first, right, You're gotta be just growing
Speaker 1: up at first, and then with the backlash of beach
Speaker 1: rounds of life, and that was unfair to me because
Speaker 1: I didn't know none of this. Ship walking in a
Speaker 1: right You know what I'm saying. I wouldn't even had
Speaker 1: I known. That's why when we did the last Trial album,
Speaker 1: I didn't do nine nine songs. I was like, and
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to do the six that I was on,
Speaker 1: but it was more like I was just you know,
Speaker 1: my shot was hot, so I couldn't stop it. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Everybody in the group was cool,
Speaker 1: what you're doing that many songs? Man, that's loaded? Man
Speaker 1: at a cigarette before you shootin't my last last? You know?
Speaker 1: They would come on, man, you know the stories, and
Speaker 1: you know that the story we gotta hear her. Bust
Speaker 1: was officially added to Trial called Members this last album
Speaker 1: the last Yeah, Man, come on, man, come on man,
Speaker 1: you falling out on me? Man? Look, hey, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: you're not just talking to everybody. I already know, but
Speaker 1: they know y'all got the guns. Look at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, right, Um, you answer your question first
Speaker 1: and I'll go back to yours. Was a little longer
Speaker 1: to explain for Busts concern. So last album, Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: Buster was a member of Tribe UM and obviously so
Speaker 1: was I UM and you know the the zeal behind
Speaker 1: everything was to celebrate Fife and his life. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I was the bigger picture. You know, obviously,
Speaker 1: I think people need to understand, um, there's going to
Speaker 1: be behind the scenes things that makes sense. Don't make
Speaker 1: sense to have to get ironed out so focused on
Speaker 1: but as the final product guest Busted was a member
Speaker 1: of the last member of Trial for the last album.
Speaker 1: He definitely was do that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He has always been a standout performing when it came
Speaker 1: to Tribe Records. He's always he's always been around. He's
Speaker 1: been around us as long as I'm you know, as
Speaker 1: long as I'm you know, as long as I'm known,
Speaker 1: as long as we've been like rapping, like Bust have
Speaker 1: been around Bust that had the path finder coming to
Speaker 1: Linden Busted me, Busted smoke when I was one time
Speaker 1: when I did smoke, it was what I with smokele Bus.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, it's my manner ship. And
Speaker 1: for being inducted in the trial called question Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: how about that? Yeah, that queens like that group miss
Speaker 1: so much to us to drive and I don't think
Speaker 1: I've ever like publicly like other than like when you
Speaker 1: was was was going through yours with with with your family.
Speaker 1: I don't think i've ever heard somebody publicly discribed but
Speaker 1: I need distrobe. I'll never described as a group. I'm
Speaker 1: never distruck because I'll come from truck at you right.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I had a discrepancy what
Speaker 1: you said at a certain point. I mean, I'm never
Speaker 1: Jerobi wasn't in the group when I was there. So
Speaker 1: I want to ask my next question. That's my crazy
Speaker 1: don't set now. You cannot have a water here? Take
Speaker 1: my last water? You sure you want those champade maybe later?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I can't do it celebrate you.
Speaker 1: I can't. We got a champagne Japanese there. You'll wet
Speaker 1: for you to take a shot. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because I did it. Here's your question. And we were
Speaker 1: talking about right now to get back to it. But
Speaker 1: I didn't hear. That's how you, I believe, yeah, or
Speaker 1: you and Tip worked it out one time you went
Speaker 1: to the studio and drink some Hennessey when you went
Speaker 1: to this is the boblo. I work out my problems
Speaker 1: via wire transferring, Okay, my bad, sir. I respect that
Speaker 1: we talk about before. That was talking before. So defense
Speaker 1: um question was was the other two was? The other
Speaker 1: was the members of the group, okay with me being
Speaker 1: in the group into honestly answer your question, though they weren't.
Speaker 1: At least he didn't like it. So you know, it
Speaker 1: was like it he didn't like, he didn't. It wasn't
Speaker 1: that he didn't like it, And it wasn't that Ali
Speaker 1: didn't get with it. I mean me, Ali have a
Speaker 1: I've had a long relationship just together, just as just
Speaker 1: outside of tribe. Um. So um. I would never sit
Speaker 1: here and say I'm not here to bad mouth all
Speaker 1: lead you know. Once again, you know you know that's
Speaker 1: a that's older that's my older brother. What I'm saying,
Speaker 1: so um, he's um, he's always he's you know, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's um. It's not an easy thing
Speaker 1: to protect your own vested interests and then look out
Speaker 1: for somebody, right, like, let's just be honest, right, Like
Speaker 1: that's almost counterproductive to business, you know, because business is
Speaker 1: not a handout thing. Business is business, right, So it's
Speaker 1: it takes a lot, and I've always tried to take
Speaker 1: that road as far as anything is concerned, because to
Speaker 1: go from a fourth to a third, back to a fourth,
Speaker 1: and in the fourth and a half because your man
Speaker 1: mad about the new fourth, that ain't that's gonna be
Speaker 1: a conversation at being minimum, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And because when I came into tribe, it was queens,
Speaker 1: get the money, you know I mean, So when opportunities
Speaker 1: came my way, it was queens, get the money. It
Speaker 1: wasn't queen's playing around. It was queens, get the money.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I got stressed out because
Speaker 1: it was queens get the money, you know what I mean. Um,
Speaker 1: And so queens get the money is can be threatening. Also,
Speaker 1: it could be a little threatening because it feels like
Speaker 1: Nick taking over your block. And you're absolutely right, and
Speaker 1: Nick's taking over your block, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And and and let somebody stop him. It's not gonna
Speaker 1: stop you know what I mean. And you know, for them,
Speaker 1: they platinum at this point, it's a platinum block. It's
Speaker 1: not it's not a hole in them all. It's not
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's not somebody mom's dirty,
Speaker 1: dirty attic or whatever. And they're banging up nigga, these
Speaker 1: niggas over the world, not the place, the world, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And to have some money from
Speaker 1: Lynda bullet Ward come to do what I did was
Speaker 1: on my behalf. It was amazing, and for them it
Speaker 1: was you know, it's understandable. It's an understandable and understandable tribulation.
Speaker 1: So not not but no, you know, I think eventually
Speaker 1: got used to the idea, and I think eventually I
Speaker 1: earned their respect because they saw that it was queens
Speaker 1: get the money. You know what I'm saying. Um, But
Speaker 1: initially I probably wouldn't like me join the triumph. They
Speaker 1: was one of them, just to be honest, all human emotion.
Speaker 1: What I was really trying to get to is who
Speaker 1: had the final word for you to be in the group.
Speaker 1: Who put me in the group? Absolutely, Don Cross. I
Speaker 1: was right mind Diana like this thing that ship take
Speaker 1: back and break back. So during the pandemic, I've seen
Speaker 1: a video that you put up. It's called lost a million.
Speaker 1: What's that about? I mean, uh, it was therapy for
Speaker 1: me being sick um pandemic. I got diagnosed with U
Speaker 1: S L E. Lucas and type type one diabetes and
Speaker 1: it kind of it kind of rocked me, just to
Speaker 1: be honest, you know, and dropped down like a hundred
Speaker 1: and seven pounds, and you know, doctors basically told me
Speaker 1: if I did take certain for certain measurements that it
Speaker 1: was it was. It was, you know, it's gonna be real, Gilmore,
Speaker 1: I'm come to give more funeral homes. So, um, so
Speaker 1: I did what I had to do. So, I mean
Speaker 1: in the video it's just me. It was just it
Speaker 1: was a record that I used just to start working
Speaker 1: myself back back to back to life. Honestly, you know
Speaker 1: that that part of the roller coaster wasn't fun. Uh
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Um, but you know it's
Speaker 1: been two years since then, and I'm back and so
Speaker 1: while everyone's catching COVID, do right, I thought I had COVID. Initially,
Speaker 1: I have been going through so bag. So I had
Speaker 1: shot a video with Conway. Actually, um it's during called
Speaker 1: Complex carn and my son had jumped on my back.
Speaker 1: And before that, I have been traveling around with Kanye
Speaker 1: a lot on airplanes, um, like I mean were taking
Speaker 1: jets everywhere. Like car I was traveling with Kanye was
Speaker 1: doing a Sunday service Slash the JIK album, the promo
Speaker 1: for it. So we was going going everywhere with you know,
Speaker 1: so I was just taking a lot and then abnormal
Speaker 1: amount of flights, uh for two nineteen so that a
Speaker 1: good number. Yeah. So let my son jumped on my
Speaker 1: back at the video shoot and like it's like a
Speaker 1: crook in my neck. And I went to a primary
Speaker 1: care physician. Um, they gave me malox MALOXI car called
Speaker 1: and that made matters worse, um because it was misdiagnosed. Um.
Speaker 1: So by the time we get to March, when the
Speaker 1: pandemic kind of, I went to I took another flight.
Speaker 1: I went to to Kanye had the fashion show in Paris.
Speaker 1: I went with him and and his wife at the time.
Speaker 1: Huh yeah yeah, So I went with him, Kim Corney
Speaker 1: and the kids. We flew out there. We had a
Speaker 1: good time. But when I got back, I thought, I
Speaker 1: was you know, I was felt really weak. So I
Speaker 1: went actually went to early care. I went to try
Speaker 1: to get a COVID test because I thought because we
Speaker 1: was over the French and France and then then just
Speaker 1: had hit. So I was hitting in Europe first saying,
Speaker 1: so I was like, damn, I ain't got this, so
Speaker 1: they didn't even know how to do the swamp and
Speaker 1: none of that. When I got it was all new.
Speaker 1: So I was like, yo, let me just slide back
Speaker 1: to New York on the first thing smoking and then
Speaker 1: the quarantine happened. So I'm thinking, I, well, this ship
Speaker 1: is you know, I think it might be a month
Speaker 1: or something for ship to be closed. She'd go on
Speaker 1: and on and on and on. One thing led to another.
Speaker 1: Um I got very you know, my weight started dropping significantly,
Speaker 1: and you know, uh, it just got to the point
Speaker 1: where I ended up, you know, me and car he
Speaker 1: was having a conversation about. I was like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: fucked up. Dog. I'm like, y'all need I need some help?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was in the crib basically,
Speaker 1: um So, Kim and family a doctor in New York.
Speaker 1: Um So, I had to getting the spinal tap and everything.
Speaker 1: They discovered that sli lupus, which I was like, I
Speaker 1: didn't understand. It was like nobody my family got it.
Speaker 1: The stereotype is that it's a it's an African American female. Sit,
Speaker 1: your genetic got the same thing and tea balls right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I didn't you know, so um so um. And
Speaker 1: what happened then was that because I dropped so much
Speaker 1: weight and I was like they initially thought it had
Speaker 1: some ship called stiff Man syndrome. So because I literally
Speaker 1: was like walking like I was like nineties, ship was crazy.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Um, so yeah, just yeah,
Speaker 1: and I don't still easy, but that ship was that
Speaker 1: it got to the point where I was just like
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just thinking this's gonna happen. What I'm
Speaker 1: saying like like writing well out and all that ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Um, but um uh what
Speaker 1: wound up happening. I had to take steroids to get
Speaker 1: my sister to jump back up. So I wind up
Speaker 1: taking steroids, but then taking steroids I was taking apprentice
Speaker 1: on and then doing that. The middle GRAMD dosage is
Speaker 1: the equivalent to like glucose, So don't tell me that
Speaker 1: created the diabetes. Yeah, So basically I had to. I
Speaker 1: had to. Then I had Then I got to an
Speaker 1: inch knowledge this and it was like, yo, if you
Speaker 1: don't take insulin, you're gonna die. Your pengreas is done.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I told money. I was like, yo, I got a son, Yo,
Speaker 1: just to shoot me fucking you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Because I was really apprehensive about taking inst because everybody
Speaker 1: see taking insulin was like funked up. They wasn't like
Speaker 1: they wasn't thriving no more. It was just like it
Speaker 1: was like you know it, it was like it looked
Speaker 1: every from my finch rock like one. But I was
Speaker 1: wrong because it actually it actually helped me tremendously, but
Speaker 1: from my lack of education about it, I just kind
Speaker 1: of panicked. I was like, now I want to do that,
Speaker 1: and it was like, Yo, if you don't do it,
Speaker 1: you're gonna die. Your pancreas is done. Like you you
Speaker 1: only thing you could do was jump started with insulin,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I thought of at all I did was thinking about
Speaker 1: my son. I was just like, yo, just do whatever
Speaker 1: you gotta do that, you know what I'm saying, to
Speaker 1: give it to me now, why while we're waiting for it,
Speaker 1: and she was already sucked up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So did that, and then um, you know, I just
Speaker 1: started changing everything because I was still eating the same
Speaker 1: way with the medicine, and that was only leading to
Speaker 1: the grave. Honestly, Like you know, I was still eating,
Speaker 1: thinking like I could have whatever the fuck, and you know,
Speaker 1: you know what, it was just a lot of ship.
Speaker 1: And so with that, I begin me with more doctors
Speaker 1: and nurses and you know, shout out to north Well
Speaker 1: grouping my my um my, uh, my new basically primary
Speaker 1: physician was my looping specialist, Dr Neino. She she she
Speaker 1: definitely was a can't do it for me to say,
Speaker 1: my but for my life to be saved, I gotta
Speaker 1: make some money for that. Man. I didn't know none
Speaker 1: of that asking that question. Um, lost a million, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So lost a million was basically
Speaker 1: my way of just telling the story, you know, like
Speaker 1: telling the telling everything that happened, because I feel like
Speaker 1: my life I was losing. I was literally watching myself
Speaker 1: lose lose millions because that's the value that I have
Speaker 1: for myself. So it wasn't even let's say it's a
Speaker 1: it's a metaphor. Um, it's a metaphor so to speak,
Speaker 1: just the same like I'm literally watching my life and
Speaker 1: I gotta either I saved me onna lose everything. One hand,
Speaker 1: I want to pop the champagne with you, but another hand,
Speaker 1: it's just like, I'm not sure we got some more
Speaker 1: ship to talk about. You know, you also have to
Speaker 1: work with Case Slate two before he passed away. Actually
Speaker 1: hunt deep. Yeah, Man, Case Slave is definitely, um gonna
Speaker 1: be missed. Man, it's so crazy dating COVID. It's just
Speaker 1: the thing about the pandemic. But I don't think people
Speaker 1: ever fully understand is the amount of death that we've
Speaker 1: had to deal with in real time because of social media.
Speaker 1: You know, I like I watched so like even when
Speaker 1: I was going through what I was going through, I
Speaker 1: was like, I was a mobilized. I was on the
Speaker 1: couch and I'm just looking at face looking at all
Speaker 1: my social media platform. I remember I was, man, I
Speaker 1: was on drugs and I saw Brion dancing they I
Speaker 1: thought I was in the Twilights. I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: what the fucking we were doing? He was definitely the
Speaker 1: hype man. I didn't I couldn't process because you know,
Speaker 1: like it was hard to process that number on the
Speaker 1: INDI shut down from what we know. It's a new
Speaker 1: industry now, like basically we we now worked on the phone.
Speaker 1: The offices in New York as far as Gregor Companies
Speaker 1: still not Universe is still not open, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So we've had to figure out how to
Speaker 1: adapt to the pandemic, you know. So in that adaptation,
Speaker 1: it's like, yo, you're seeing you know, even even though
Speaker 1: your murders of Verses was an adaptation. Thought I was like,
Speaker 1: is this not not no disrespected? But it was like
Speaker 1: almost like it was like, I guess that's what we're
Speaker 1: doing the code, you know what I'm saying, right nice
Speaker 1: you know, like Godship was like yo, I remember man
Speaker 1: first first d nice Um joint. He was like, yo,
Speaker 1: cors what if I seeing like a more later? I
Speaker 1: think over it was on that D night on the
Speaker 1: show Nobody Out. It was likely sh it Obama, D
Speaker 1: nice Ship sit at the tunnel sunning, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And like I said, I'm going through all
Speaker 1: this on drugs. So it was like I'll see d
Speaker 1: Knights in the shows that my nigga, you know, I mean, Derek,
Speaker 1: my nigger from from damn near. Since you called me nice,
Speaker 1: I like how you like how you called him Derek.
Speaker 1: That's that's outside. I just look at all rappers DJs
Speaker 1: who've been through what we've been through. And I never
Speaker 1: called him in the first name. I always I mean,
Speaker 1: he liked to be called Derek. Yeah. Yeah, it's nice
Speaker 1: to men record. Yeah, your studios, Holy Mode movie. So
Speaker 1: what's the next for you? Cars? Reality TV? No, let's
Speaker 1: not list my god, my little it's a bag. I've
Speaker 1: seen the interview where you were saying it's a bag.
Speaker 1: You know what they're back. I just passed on doing it,
Speaker 1: asked me to do it. Oh yeah, yeah, I did drinks.
Speaker 1: But what was it like? You know, um, you know,
Speaker 1: coming from where you're coming from in order to and
Speaker 1: then going into reality TV just be say for a
Speaker 1: person that maybe you want to tell them how to
Speaker 1: do it. I don't know, you know, I mean I
Speaker 1: feel like it's uh, you know, listen, um, Tiffany said,
Speaker 1: like I said, because like I said, I know Mona
Speaker 1: since she worked Violator after started, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So you know, you know, to see what she's been
Speaker 1: able to do with the lane that John your has,
Speaker 1: you know, that's somebody that like literally the first trip
Speaker 1: I took a trial was to Miami. How can I
Speaker 1: be down and Mona was working with us. She was
Speaker 1: all point person. I mean, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So like for me, you know, my hat is off
Speaker 1: to Mona, you know what I'm saying, Like I was
Speaker 1: suppoke to Mona. I actually you know, all full transparency.
Speaker 1: You know, the thought had crossed my mind to maybe
Speaker 1: do another season, um because of all the ship I
Speaker 1: got going on, and I'm just in a different space.
Speaker 1: But I just think that for me at this point,
Speaker 1: like I've done so much that it wouldn't make sense
Speaker 1: to go back. But you know, just in full because
Speaker 1: I'm literally about to go. They're doing like uh an
Speaker 1: episode that's like you know something like what they're doing
Speaker 1: now type, And they asked me to do what I
Speaker 1: was just like right now they ain't in the fight,
Speaker 1: and they did. He did you know, when you're doing
Speaker 1: it change you can't tell Drakes can't fight. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: it's not no fun for me. It's not no fun
Speaker 1: for me. The first union fight with you that's went
Speaker 1: to together the balls, Okay, what's going on? Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: you know so you know that was that was then
Speaker 1: and this it's cool. How about you used to with
Speaker 1: your lady. Oh really, no, I didn't know any lady
Speaker 1: and my new lady. You know my new lady. Oh damn,
Speaker 1: you're throwing it up with my new lady. You grew
Speaker 1: up with my new lady. Really, he called you poppy. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll be mad about that. Sound right, But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I know he said ship. Make the look yeah, like
Speaker 1: I'm being honest with you. Say because you know her,
Speaker 1: her brother your fa y'all girl to her name is Melody. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: you don't melody on the same floor, not even just
Speaker 1: the same same you know. You know you lady, that's
Speaker 1: what's up. Hell yeah, you look like you. I'll see
Speaker 1: the way you look here. Now, let's mom and she
Speaker 1: take care of me like you look. I see you.
Speaker 1: He smells okay, because I know what I deserved. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I know what I deserve. I know,
Speaker 1: I know with the word warrants, But do a nasty
Speaker 1: breakup or something like that with Listen. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I got my son. My son is
Speaker 1: my gift in his life, and regardless of whatever I
Speaker 1: go through, that's the final products catering and me and
Speaker 1: kating actually got a video coming out and shot Jamal,
Speaker 1: And so my albums is incredible. Who shot the mall?
Speaker 1: Who shot Jamal? Who shot Jamal? Yeah, So it's just
Speaker 1: it's basically our our dialogue, um, our dialogue between Falls
Speaker 1: and son about dealing with murder in the black community. UM.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of times, you know, too many
Speaker 1: times there's there's there's there's bodies, and you know, there's
Speaker 1: there's bodies in the streets that nobody knows what happened
Speaker 1: to him, and the police don't really care. And then
Speaker 1: you know, unfortunately families do the police work if there's
Speaker 1: any police him to be done as far as like
Speaker 1: getting just that closure, you know. So we're having that
Speaker 1: conversation in this in this record, and it's important and
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it and me and Kayden and
Speaker 1: I also doing a group album called One On too
Speaker 1: that having an executive producer. Yeah. So he tends just
Speaker 1: just got study on the Summer Jams screen and all that.
Speaker 1: So that's out of you know, I'm like, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna criticize other than not keep it playing myself. So
Speaker 1: I don't do the thing with the girls and the
Speaker 1: dirt and all that on those platforms. I don't do
Speaker 1: none of that, you know, I just you know, I'll
Speaker 1: keep it where I'll keep it. But so, um, so
Speaker 1: what do you feel like um about like parents who
Speaker 1: like it seems like they put in their children on
Speaker 1: front Street. Is that something that that your son wants
Speaker 1: to do. Is it's something like he came to you
Speaker 1: and said, pop, oh, this is something that you wanted
Speaker 1: to do, like it's practice, and then it started to
Speaker 1: keep put himself on the summer Jams screen. I ain't
Speaker 1: telling get stirty. I got to v so you do it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I mean I think
Speaker 1: the whole thing is our generation. Now we're in the
Speaker 1: position to offer nepotism right without I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: need to get a check off o kat. And I'm straight.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I have a resume and
Speaker 1: and uh and uh in a contact list that provides
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I'm able to provide for my son.
Speaker 1: He don't take me shopping. I'm I remember pomp apart
Speaker 1: from because you if I just remember one time, I
Speaker 1: think I said the source of magazine and I've been
Speaker 1: like hearing Busino over here over talking about YO think
Speaker 1: they're thinking I'm making money of my son. I think
Speaker 1: I'm trying to expose my son. And I remember just
Speaker 1: hearing that, like and I'm just I wonder what this
Speaker 1: mean because perception. But what you're saying about nepotism, that's
Speaker 1: true generational wealth, right. See. The the the thing is
Speaker 1: there are people who actually see something in their kid
Speaker 1: and be like, yeah, just the ticket and Williams King
Speaker 1: Richard like that. That movie is so ill just due
Speaker 1: to the fact that what what you know, it got it.
Speaker 1: It takes humility also to see in your child with
Speaker 1: you what you can't literally do anymore. Right, So if
Speaker 1: you came you, you was Richen, you was Richard, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. The whole thing is like you
Speaker 1: had you had two choices. You could you could be
Speaker 1: You could you could withhold the knowledge and hope they
Speaker 1: figure it out for theirselves. Or you could come up
Speaker 1: with a plan that's gonna actually be able to be
Speaker 1: executable through your do your through your seeds, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And him and his wife, it wasn't
Speaker 1: just him and he was him and his wife, and
Speaker 1: then you know they're geting shipped from the neighborhood. And
Speaker 1: then guess what, then three or four years they that
Speaker 1: wasn't the same neighbor no more. Their neighborhood changed. Not
Speaker 1: to say, right, their neighborhood changed. Do because of richest ambition,
Speaker 1: you know, And and a lot of times fathers don't
Speaker 1: get the acknowledgement of having to be the quarterback of
Speaker 1: your family, like having to really be able to see
Speaker 1: the end zone, I know, and take and take the
Speaker 1: heckling of motherfucker's worried about what you're doing in the
Speaker 1: process of getting from first down the first down. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying that the players in the end zone, that's
Speaker 1: where the six points is at and whatever else you're
Speaker 1: gonna get, you know what I mean, So you gotta
Speaker 1: get dead. I like that. I like that a lot.
Speaker 1: Go back real quick to when you're starting to run
Speaker 1: right and trying starting the bubble, because it was huge
Speaker 1: even from the onset. How was the atmosphere for you,
Speaker 1: like just seeing that and seeing that's actually family right there, right?
Speaker 1: I mean, well, the number one thing it did was
Speaker 1: give hold because I'm at that time when trial comes
Speaker 1: out when in Queen's right, So the streets is a mess.
Speaker 1: You know trial when trial came out of the central
Speaker 1: part five got arrested, right when not too long before that,
Speaker 1: Edward Burns that got murdered in Queen's document. You know right,
Speaker 1: I got it. I'm looking to the crib what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know, So the streets that we lived on, man,
Speaker 1: you know, niggas are selling crack of twelve bro, Like
Speaker 1: I know, I got a little I got man that
Speaker 1: grew up. I'm watching nigga smoke cigarettes and diapers like
Speaker 1: ship was out of control, you know, in in in retrospect,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But at that time, it's
Speaker 1: what was going on. There wasn't no nobody questioned none
Speaker 1: of that ship like that. Nobody was I mean, you
Speaker 1: know Al Sharlton question, did you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: when he was rocking the joint? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Right right? You know what I mean. So, but we
Speaker 1: did like also like that, like Tribe gave niggas hol
Speaker 1: l L game, niggas hop singing DMC in the hood,
Speaker 1: and the Lincoln gave niggas hold. You know what I'm saying, nigga,
Speaker 1: You know me, you know I was able to battle
Speaker 1: run when I was the fourteen You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Come on, costs to go
Speaker 1: to far? I ain't going nowhere? Went too far? How
Speaker 1: you think I got tried? You battle one DMC Battle
Speaker 1: run run Gold. Yeah yeah, he had he had a
Speaker 1: to toss you windbreaking track to TI right like how
Speaker 1: you trying to make it sound more fresh? You know? No,
Speaker 1: that's something you're serious. So you battle run where Buster
Speaker 1: told tip battle run? I got in tried Buster told
Speaker 1: Q Buster was there and said if you know Buster
Speaker 1: was there? He told no, not if I did. Okay
Speaker 1: at fourteen fifteen? Yeah on one on two that's the
Speaker 1: name of my label, went on to record, because that's
Speaker 1: how that's why I got the money. Queens get the money.
Speaker 1: You ain't leaving the block without getting this work. It
Speaker 1: didn't run have the hat on nah? This before, this
Speaker 1: is before they had this. Ain't no derby run TV man.
Speaker 1: I want some TV man is running the street nigger
Speaker 1: and queens. He had a haircut when they did then
Speaker 1: with the kid an with the key, there's ninety two.
Speaker 1: Not y'all, let's getting front cleaners on one our two. Okay,
Speaker 1: me me he spake ge busted ros rumble still scan
Speaker 1: rumble still haven't heard that in even a while? Right,
Speaker 1: I did he have on adid this? I don't remember
Speaker 1: a fool. Okay, you say you say you beat one,
Speaker 1: I a fool. I'm saying I'm not. I'm not had one,
Speaker 1: so I'm not saying it wasn't like if you you
Speaker 1: need to pop bottle champagne. If this is still please man,
Speaker 1: this is what they say. He probably probably heard say
Speaker 1: that I heard my skills say that that he wanted
Speaker 1: an autograph and run, but no one never came on
Speaker 1: you know what started to that? So we're like responded
Speaker 1: that no one didn't want to hear something. Listen, run
Speaker 1: and what I'm go? He can continue to go? Did
Speaker 1: me playing great? At one point, I was supposed to
Speaker 1: work with Diggie Singles on his debut album One My
Speaker 1: Nigga Niggas No like, I'm not, but I never disrespected.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, yeah, I'm saying, I A I can't listen.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, right and and finnished to run right
Speaker 1: it's the nigga did me a favor by even saying,
Speaker 1: all right, shorty, what you got Yeah, nigga. That's what
Speaker 1: I got. That's what I got from Queen's names when
Speaker 1: I got from the boulevard nigga. Next stop trying, next,
Speaker 1: next stop of the chase for two facts pop one
Speaker 1: of that. God damn it, I said if CONS wasn't drinking,
Speaker 1: I wasn't drinking. But you're making me want to drink.
Speaker 1: Let's keep going. I'm gonna drink. I'm gonna get your
Speaker 1: cut hold on them. Mr Leek tell Biggs, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: recording because he's calling me right now. Because we celebrated you, brother,
Speaker 1: we celebrate salute solut So you gonna take a sip,
Speaker 1: don't count. I get the story on my but look
Speaker 1: not what okay? Yeah, I can't lie to you. Bro.
Speaker 1: Wait wait so you battle run? What happens in that
Speaker 1: moment again, like even in the midst of it, like
Speaker 1: what what was it supposed to take place? Was actually
Speaker 1: Fife and Mr Cheeks are supposed to battle that night
Speaker 1: and Mr Cheeks yeah he was, he was Coach Cheeks.
Speaker 1: So that's that was supposed to what was supposed to
Speaker 1: happen because because they because Coach Cheeks was Queens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he was the he was the nigger on the tapes,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And he wanted he wanted
Speaker 1: in on the game. So to get in on the game,
Speaker 1: he was like, yo, let me let you mean Fife,
Speaker 1: because Fife, this is right after the low end, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So Fife was like, so, so
Speaker 1: that battle was either gonna be Fife was gonna eat
Speaker 1: his food or he was gonna eat his food, and
Speaker 1: they was gonna have to then say, Coach Cheeks need
Speaker 1: to be on. But eventually got on, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Um, and about that night, like I said,
Speaker 1: he got he but but they didn't battle. So for
Speaker 1: for some reason, the chiefs sing chief didn't come. But
Speaker 1: spank G can spank G and Coach Cheeks was partners,
Speaker 1: they said. The ship called organized. I like to organize
Speaker 1: the two burgers and fry with my lord boy crew,
Speaker 1: because that's the way they would do. My man stretches.
Speaker 1: Now when the fact, well, Mama said, and so I
Speaker 1: did catch reck uh the real deal like holy Field
Speaker 1: making the emurgency phone calls my night man is burst
Speaker 1: to Freddie, don't scheme on my dream. Just get your machete.
Speaker 1: D that nigga was nice back in the day. That
Speaker 1: nigga was nice. It was him, he was nice. And
Speaker 1: Red Man they both did tape that uh mana bello
Speaker 1: um and and that's how Redman got on red and
Speaker 1: got Red Man got popular. He was already kind of
Speaker 1: with he was working with. But the ship with him
Speaker 1: and Biz the mona below tape is what made Red Man.
Speaker 1: You know what, I wouldn't put them on, but the
Speaker 1: no no, no, but didn't really he was spitting for
Speaker 1: was DJ and that for right. So but then he
Speaker 1: got on the money that Red Man slacks no HAPs,
Speaker 1: I got a knapsacker raph to give you more power
Speaker 1: to snap. I get the powerful grade gold castle. Now
Speaker 1: I got the power to smash you and thrash you.
Speaker 1: That nigga was that nigga back in the days, right,
Speaker 1: he let a clip off on that ship. So so
Speaker 1: my my point is saying, either one of those rhymes
Speaker 1: was that. So the kind of the stage was set
Speaker 1: for the ship, but Cheeks, I don't think, for some reason,
Speaker 1: got there. But then Run came and pulled up out
Speaker 1: of nowhere, you know what I'm saying. And when Run came,
Speaker 1: we all was out there. And then we started and
Speaker 1: then Ron went that, I went the wrong went again.
Speaker 1: I went again, and then that's how it kind of
Speaker 1: turned to smack DVD, not smack DVD like Queen's get
Speaker 1: the money for doing that though. Yeah, that's why, that's
Speaker 1: why I never try to come at it like yo oh, run,
Speaker 1: I told Run. It wasn't that I run gave me
Speaker 1: the crame run run, run past the tours to me.
Speaker 1: But it was in a battle. It was in a battle, mole,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He didn't give it to me,
Speaker 1: Like right, he didn't give it to me, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you on down with the king with me,
Speaker 1: you and Pete Rock. Now, I was like, nigger, if
Speaker 1: you don't, if you don't tear me up. You got
Speaker 1: told by Run and you might quit. But you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because it ain't no really no coming
Speaker 1: back from that ship. Neither though holds your battles. I
Speaker 1: am battle with me. You in fifty the shades of
Speaker 1: hip hop wanted to see. I wait, that was Wartner's
Speaker 1: was was, wasn't it? He was one of the lines
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, yeah, you know it's crazy living that
Speaker 1: moment I did not know how special for that moment
Speaker 1: was one I never never would have realized that that
Speaker 1: would have made it to the century, Like look at
Speaker 1: all the hold funky all right, and that she's saying
Speaker 1: that's my right, right right, and I kifre was doing here, yes,
Speaker 1: yes that if the people that don't know you could
Speaker 1: go right now on YouTube one where somewhere it's a
Speaker 1: it's a famous freestyle this before like the punt freestyles
Speaker 1: and on listen. This was during the n R E
Speaker 1: album It's me uh consequence fifty. We all went twice
Speaker 1: and everyone and I'm telling, let me tell you something
Speaker 1: because it was like it wasn't like it wasn't like
Speaker 1: we were battling like like like I was just trying
Speaker 1: to say, but we were but not battling each other.
Speaker 1: We had nigger battling who was the number one producers
Speaker 1: at the time, and everyone what's what they beat playing
Speaker 1: in the background. But I've never been able to like
Speaker 1: to be kid do like that type of moment like that.
Speaker 1: It was, yeah, and it was so spontaneous because if
Speaker 1: you can't just blame it on the error, I gotta
Speaker 1: I gotta say I don't think that I gotta take
Speaker 1: is gonna that comes back? Okay, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: There's definitely a moment in time because because at the time,
Speaker 1: because of the position that awful artists was in, you know,
Speaker 1: you know no nor no and and I feel like
Speaker 1: that moment get reading the excex self freestyle, that that
Speaker 1: that arguably a point to be taking. You're gonna say, right,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, really that was the sper Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what that really wants to bite because that's because
Speaker 1: because of the factor, yeah, it made it doesn't made
Speaker 1: it to the future from that it was on a
Speaker 1: VHS tape. It's like so it got uploaded, which once again,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, double back to when we
Speaker 1: first started from the beginning of the conversation, there wasn't
Speaker 1: even YouTube when we did that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So that but we was vi it's still vibra. It
Speaker 1: was viral that back then. It was when when viral
Speaker 1: was viral, like it was holding it every time somebody
Speaker 1: posted that had the platform, it goes because it's like
Speaker 1: it's a it's a new thing every time. And like
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I think it was the position of you
Speaker 1: was in there at the time. Fifty was just got
Speaker 1: sign the track Masses how to Rob didn't even come
Speaker 1: out yet. I was coming out of tribes in between
Speaker 1: deals and punched and was trying to get a deal,
Speaker 1: so he was hungry. So it was like it was
Speaker 1: like the chemistry just all may say like ififty would
Speaker 1: have been if Anthy would have had out the gen
Speaker 1: on the mixtape, it wouldn't have been that same situation.
Speaker 1: If you would have already had our super Dog, it
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been that situation, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It was just like, why were you guys in the
Speaker 1: same room? Was it violator the common No? No track
Speaker 1: masters a common denominic because they and I was there
Speaker 1: for kicking Precession. He's also working with the track master
Speaker 1: they Ever, it was all a phony situation. Yeah, also
Speaker 1: did the beat that he did for me that night.
Speaker 1: He gave it to me. But that's a that's that's
Speaker 1: a legendary, legendary moment, and and I look for that.
Speaker 1: I look for that like in other other people genres
Speaker 1: of music. And I don't think that that chemistry. I
Speaker 1: don't think that it was a special time in hip hop.
Speaker 1: Man what was your favorite what's your favorite what's your
Speaker 1: favorite period in the hip hop? Excuse me, um man,
Speaker 1: I got moments more so than just like time period.
Speaker 1: I mean, look at um one of my favorite moments
Speaker 1: that probably should be my favorite moment. It's a bad
Speaker 1: boy era, just just because not but just because you
Speaker 1: gotta Honestly, I was in tried, but I was looking
Speaker 1: at that ship like, man, a good record. I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I was in army fatigues right like we're going ahead,
Speaker 1: going to the town every weekend. I couldn't. It was like, listen,
Speaker 1: one thing, one thing you know TV. One thing is
Speaker 1: for sure, like Puff knew how to make a record
Speaker 1: that made women react, hits not just hits that may
Speaker 1: women react. You know a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: what's going on now is not people not really understanding. Also,
Speaker 1: like if it's your ship is overtly masculine, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that doesn't include women. You know, if
Speaker 1: we've got one guy who defines that, who nas eskeootball.
Speaker 1: But Nast still back in first that first album, nas
Speaker 1: has has some passive bitches. No, Nas has some busy
Speaker 1: because he has the buzz. But you know, what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but there's still there's because he's different what you guys
Speaker 1: are saying. There's different things. But didn't right, But then look,
Speaker 1: let's keep it real. Even with nas right, he has
Speaker 1: almatic Right, he got the bitches, but then said, if
Speaker 1: I really want to go getting longer the tunnel? Did
Speaker 1: he wanted if you really want to maybe, Yeah, he wanted.
Speaker 1: He wanted to to know little bit, so that's why
Speaker 1: he upgraded and stuck up. Yeah, but I've gotta understand,
Speaker 1: like is one of the best chick record makers of
Speaker 1: all time. His first record has been the Apple Bomb Bomb.
Speaker 1: I still don't know what that is. What do you mean?
Speaker 1: What is benea a bomb? Um? It's a person but
Speaker 1: I can't say her name. It's actually you know what
Speaker 1: it was? The first thing I thought it was a
Speaker 1: stroke move whoa, that's that's his beIN as he coind
Speaker 1: of drink who it is? But I'm like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? They can know who that is
Speaker 1: so little check it when we spoke about a little
Speaker 1: bit earlier right now folk plus and saying hey man,
Speaker 1: because they ald I love you guys, movement, love what
Speaker 1: you guys are doing. But he doesn't feel like they're
Speaker 1: making music that fits the radio right, at least fits
Speaker 1: his platform. He said, And why you guys kid, And
Speaker 1: they're saying initially, yo, you you should care because we
Speaker 1: this ship, we're selling out like how we spoke earlier.
Speaker 1: We're selling out arenas, we're making money. We got to jewelry,
Speaker 1: we got to calls, we got the crowd. Why wouldn't
Speaker 1: you support us? Where do you on this? On this
Speaker 1: side of the story? Where do you on the spectrum
Speaker 1: of this? Yeah? Did my my side of the story.
Speaker 1: So where you go as a songwriter, you always have
Speaker 1: to have a chorus to get on the radio? What
Speaker 1: what what? What? Like that? What? What? What? What? What? What?
Speaker 1: Tammy lewis what what? What? Um? What's another one? Um?
Speaker 1: I mean you have to have a course to get
Speaker 1: on the radio. That's that's bigger than even with flex
Speaker 1: is alluding to. The thing is like, and I'm saying
Speaker 1: this as a songwriter like that has to be there
Speaker 1: has to be. A radio is based on audience, and
Speaker 1: audience has to sing along without singing along, there is
Speaker 1: no that that radio doesn't fulfill its purpose from a
Speaker 1: bit and you noticed as a DJ, so there's there,
Speaker 1: there's the beat, the chorus, and then the raps far
Speaker 1: as records that are hit records blowing up. Eric B
Speaker 1: for President was not just I came in the door.
Speaker 1: I said it before. It was doom, the doom, the doom.
Speaker 1: I came in the door. I said that before. I
Speaker 1: never let the might a advertize me no more. But
Speaker 1: he's fighting me by He's like me the mom. I
Speaker 1: can't hold it back. I'm looking for the line taking
Speaker 1: off my coat, claim my throw the wrong, kicking until
Speaker 1: I hit my lass. I know the words the ship
Speaker 1: this me. You know what I'm saying. So the thing is,
Speaker 1: it's about resignation and and and inclusion. Right, I'm saying
Speaker 1: this as a song writer. I'm not specifically saying this
Speaker 1: about that even that argument. I'm saying, the components of
Speaker 1: a record that works at radio rap is based on
Speaker 1: it's based on engagement. Because some will argue, right now,
Speaker 1: CARDI be gotta hit record and it's only the chorus
Speaker 1: that plays once or me me twice, Cardi beef with
Speaker 1: Little Dirk and Kanye right now, remember what Flex said though,
Speaker 1: He said that what dictates what goes on the radio
Speaker 1: is Spotify and YouTube. He just amplifies that. He says
Speaker 1: that I think he said. But but but in a
Speaker 1: traditional sense as far as even if whether you're on
Speaker 1: the radio or not, right, a record like bad from
Speaker 1: TV No Hook consider the hit record. Yeah, but y'all,
Speaker 1: raps are choruses, a wit comps regardlessly. You're gonna ship rain, snow,
Speaker 1: sweet of hell, keep your face and on my hand
Speaker 1: and the like. It's part of the plan. I had
Speaker 1: to talk like I did well, how I see it,
Speaker 1: Doug down all the pecauseles soon to be up. Yo,
Speaker 1: I know the fucking wraps, bro. Remember that was an
Speaker 1: era before hip hop was mainstream on radio. But there's
Speaker 1: a market that's New York. There's a proponent to to
Speaker 1: resignation that that just happens, right, Like there's a there's
Speaker 1: a there's a component to resignation that just happens. There's
Speaker 1: a tone of voice, there's a beat, there's a there's
Speaker 1: just things that make people in three listens start working
Speaker 1: with it. You know what I'm helps the program basically
Speaker 1: right right right right, so so so the your opinion
Speaker 1: you haven't heard of recollect that from grizelta Um, what
Speaker 1: I think my personal opinion, like at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, right, if that wasn't even the case, there's
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. Grizella has been on like a
Speaker 1: three year run right, like in the Spotlight, right, and
Speaker 1: they've managed to like transition and transform into like the
Speaker 1: biggest ship independent not independent. You're playing them in South
Speaker 1: Africa when I went to South Africa. So the thing
Speaker 1: is like, but if they're settling for more for Gazella, yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: they made they made the three stars, they three they
Speaker 1: three hip hop household names. So do I feel like
Speaker 1: in fairness and then and loved as some of my brothers,
Speaker 1: can they deliver the biggest, the biggest records of their career? Now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got every redstarting you up. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: What you want? You might have to You might have
Speaker 1: to go see Timberland for that. You might have to
Speaker 1: go see it for for that. You might you might
Speaker 1: see this and say that though, but say yo, listen
Speaker 1: because a lot of people think I think they're just
Speaker 1: counterproductive to kind of get to the gatekeeper ship, right,
Speaker 1: I hold. I think when people think that you say
Speaker 1: radio record or you say, um, a club record, and
Speaker 1: people automatically think commercial you can make a record that
Speaker 1: is radio really or club really without it being commercial,
Speaker 1: did it? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: But I mean I ain't Corey to always to go
Speaker 1: into the studio with that idea. This is my club record,
Speaker 1: this is my radio record. No no, no, but it
Speaker 1: should it should it should flow. As long as it's flow,
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be game. But if you have the wrong
Speaker 1: with being mindful but what you want to land you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like, there's nothing wrong with that
Speaker 1: because I think Jay zhr get to give it to
Speaker 1: me joint. It was like, oh yeah, I'm pointing two
Speaker 1: two type of rap on this was like I'm out
Speaker 1: with this is the smash because as a song right too,
Speaker 1: when I hear something, I can either go either way.
Speaker 1: When you speak to you, you say, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go mess with I'm gonna go mess with
Speaker 1: the club. I'm gonna go with the club on this,
Speaker 1: or I canna be like, you know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go falk with the hood on it. But you didn't
Speaker 1: go intentionally in that spot before you had to be,
Speaker 1: before you had anything go today's mind. So me working
Speaker 1: with a Kanye, right, because he a producer. First, I
Speaker 1: might have a Yeah, I'm gonna go this way with it, Like, Yo,
Speaker 1: that ain't big enough. So then you gotta you gotta
Speaker 1: rip that piece of paper up and start from the beginning.
Speaker 1: Because it's like when you got intellectual property, you can
Speaker 1: have all you gotta have a one level ranch or
Speaker 1: you gotta have a high rose, right, it's all them,
Speaker 1: which it's all them with you project onto the music,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So the thing is to
Speaker 1: get to a higher plateau, you need a higher level
Speaker 1: of thinking. So you so sometimes you gotta be your
Speaker 1: own worst critic, and like maybe I hit them. I
Speaker 1: hit this nerve already as far as my basis concerned.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like you brought up like
Speaker 1: Lost and I didn't shoot the same level of video
Speaker 1: I did for Blood Thing. For that, I knew that
Speaker 1: Blood Sing had shot. What I'm saying, Loss a minute
Speaker 1: for me was my personal and my creative So I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not gonna service that to radio. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say Flex is not women because he didn't record
Speaker 1: on the street too. Yeah, now that's what Flex, it's
Speaker 1: your poor you know what I'm saying because that um,
Speaker 1: because I'm just doing that. Yeah yeah, ship Hannani seven
Speaker 1: just had me come through the New Music men while
Speaker 1: I played it for all the DJ played the record.
Speaker 1: I played the record for all the DJ so it
Speaker 1: will be added, um I'm talking about Yeah Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm looking like Smoke brother Win a different space with um.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, Yeah, like with
Speaker 1: the Bloodstain't joint, that's bloos ain't gonna be my biggest
Speaker 1: record west. Yeah, you know what I mean. And I'm
Speaker 1: you know, so from there now you know, I got
Speaker 1: the remix coming remis crazy, crazy crazy. I'm waiting on
Speaker 1: like two more features that that my start announcing it.
Speaker 1: But I got that, I got that. I got the
Speaker 1: remix of the Summer for this ship hands down, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So independent that he got me
Speaker 1: on that one. That's like, understand sometimes just give up
Speaker 1: there Like such a thing is like it's like can
Speaker 1: you put out a record, put out a record or
Speaker 1: an album and called it like a full circle moment?
Speaker 1: Is that how it could be? Could it ever be
Speaker 1: distributed at So we're trying to see the Grammy family.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be on this trying to say they got
Speaker 1: a whole all of good music and all the trial
Speaker 1: on this. I'm feeling like your question though, right you
Speaker 1: was in you was in the car with you, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna cass seeing you like the whole winter you
Speaker 1: just like phone up. Yes, yea. And they got a
Speaker 1: lot of money, right world, He's spend no money to
Speaker 1: clear every we were. I never see the pup a
Speaker 1: car now, I don't have cart. You got car. You
Speaker 1: don't use cars, use cars. You don't even you know,
Speaker 1: I wasn't when the bill came up. Wasn't sitting around
Speaker 1: having that awkward moment, you know when you both look
Speaker 1: at the bill. You know what I just you walked out.
Speaker 1: I just grabbed Yes, well, I mean different were different space. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But it's it's it's great.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, man, you know we week. He just
Speaker 1: got a lot of money. Goddamnit. Man, he's shine it
Speaker 1: right there. Let me see. Let me see what kind
Speaker 1: of watch that I know it's there is then to
Speaker 1: let me see my face stafted up? A ja come
Speaker 1: hear you here? Shine you got the pripe. What I'm
Speaker 1: saying it's a grown man time piece. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you know, you know, uh yeah, my
Speaker 1: brother loved me, I said, you know what. It ain't independent.
Speaker 1: It's on one of two records and it's distributed by
Speaker 1: My brother loved me. We talked about Jack because your
Speaker 1: brother loved me. Because we were talking about Q Tip too.
Speaker 1: My cousin loved me, love you a little bit. Your
Speaker 1: brother leve you a lie and brother loved me. Life
Speaker 1: with brothers, Jesus. I love that though, because you know,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie to you. When I looked, because
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, I went into your music continuously,
Speaker 1: I knew. I knew that. But when I looked at
Speaker 1: the interviews like when, like I said, I supposed to
Speaker 1: tell about you, like when you when you're mad. I
Speaker 1: believe you when you're mad, but when you when you
Speaker 1: when you have me to I also believe. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at No Calcar. You know, No Calcar also believe you, boy,
Speaker 1: But not that's who I am. I don't really do
Speaker 1: gray every Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't halfway funk with niggas. I don't do sucking ship.
Speaker 1: I ain't on that. You know what I'm saying. If
Speaker 1: I don't funk with a nigger nigga, know, I don't
Speaker 1: if I wouldn't looking nigger. Know. I jumped out of
Speaker 1: jump out of moving van on Punk for you. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, that's that's who I am.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And I embraced that part
Speaker 1: of who I am. Just say on Punk. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: jumped out the van. I had to tend for in
Speaker 1: the sleeper from Kanye on the TV show, on the
Speaker 1: TV show Pong Show during Jesus walks, Yeah, that make
Speaker 1: van Holy moly, Yeah, trying to get it always why
Speaker 1: I would us and tell my brother loved me like
Speaker 1: he love me like I'm his brother. Noises that Champaigne
Speaker 1: right there. So you should have done that. So so
Speaker 1: damn you didn't see the Supreme Team documentary. I didn't
Speaker 1: see the Supreme Team documentary, but I definitely um it
Speaker 1: was well man definitely got to check that ship out
Speaker 1: on the roll with that with that, you know, because
Speaker 1: he's like a FILMMA documentary. I want to um, um,
Speaker 1: you know, me and him like a great text message relationship.
Speaker 1: But um, I texted him, and then when he text
Speaker 1: me back, I was filming so I couldn't. But this
Speaker 1: was the one of the one first times I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go on and say, yo, listen, bro, great fucking work.
Speaker 1: Because we're from the whole other side. I didn't even
Speaker 1: consider us west side Queens. I never heard that, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I just love, use love Queen's Bridge that it woke
Speaker 1: us through that West Side quay. So for what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is that if we know what was going on
Speaker 1: in Jamaica, we know, but for him to know when
Speaker 1: he knew, like the blocks in the areas. One of
Speaker 1: just why I knew because Uncle Wise is from a
Speaker 1: Hunter seven and got Brower and on forty projects and
Speaker 1: my other cousins from Basis. That's the only reason why
Speaker 1: I knew that. But I was so much of a kid,
Speaker 1: like like when when you hear me Satan paying for
Speaker 1: you're the leaka poppinga. Really he was working with the Britis.
Speaker 1: That's because I remember when Griselda, the real Griselda, the
Speaker 1: actually the Queeze. That's when Queens really got blew up
Speaker 1: because you know, cat Happy and preum and was rein
Speaker 1: up in Jackson Heights, so we had the Gold Town.
Speaker 1: So I remember my one like my one time I
Speaker 1: ever seen Alphole. He came to forty Projects. I believe
Speaker 1: he was popping to Willie's. And that's what a lot
Speaker 1: of people think. I'm saying that paid it for talking
Speaker 1: about Well, I'm talking about I'm describing what I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to describe in the movie. But I'm just you know
Speaker 1: what I'm to ask when it shows a tree of
Speaker 1: people in the crew, No baby is gonna do with uncle? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like you know you know t A. It's a bunch
Speaker 1: of VJ we were. It's a bunch of live asked
Speaker 1: niggas from princes from that side. The niggas lives niggas,
Speaker 1: you know them niggas is turning ship up. You gotta
Speaker 1: watch the definitely No, no, no, I've never met Prince.
Speaker 1: I've met Preme. You ever met Prince. The thing is
Speaker 1: like when I was a shorty because my mom my aunt,
Speaker 1: that's your my own is a Landis Atlantis said, you know,
Speaker 1: nigga like she got a baby by shorty black brother
Speaker 1: and she used to she you know, uh fat cat
Speaker 1: on the niggas, You know what I mean? On my family.
Speaker 1: I know, the niggas like for a kid, that niggas
Speaker 1: was the illest niggas that you like, the energy with them,
Speaker 1: you know, which is always you know, they were taking
Speaker 1: Kid Vince. There was getting a lot of money. There
Speaker 1: was getting a lot of money and they was getting
Speaker 1: a lot of money on the streets. So which you
Speaker 1: know when that comes, you know, you know, nig said
Speaker 1: the raps wrap life is the damn most dangerous life
Speaker 1: at that time, that was rap life. The block life
Speaker 1: was the illest ship. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: Nigga's you know, like you know, Nigga's something you want
Speaker 1: to see. There's a part where l L's actually in
Speaker 1: the club that is crazy. That footage that probably that
Speaker 1: probably I don't know he went yet, but he said,
Speaker 1: but you stand, yeah he's involved, just like he wasn't
Speaker 1: happen yet. He was a pop and you seem you
Speaker 1: see a prince who see them all those things, know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He was like yo, he was he
Speaker 1: had yeah, because it's always that you know, that that
Speaker 1: famous I think it's in mysteries. I think it's in
Speaker 1: the mysteries. The Cute Club one of them one of
Speaker 1: them when they all on stage and they all dressed
Speaker 1: up and all that ship that yeah that's it. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: that ship didn't even know he was there, all knew
Speaker 1: he was dead. He didn't know it was film. No,
Speaker 1: he said he didn't know that specifically. Was that because
Speaker 1: he said that footage because someone he was that party? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah that ship was like, oh ship, I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I watched the whole ship all together. Serious, I got
Speaker 1: one else telling people I was doing. I was like, yo, yo, man,
Speaker 1: do some before ship right now. And this episode was
Speaker 1: like a complete documentary. It was completely different. I liked
Speaker 1: it the facts. At first, I was like, damn he
Speaker 1: he He'll do a whole ship and not involved Earth. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That was very last And did he had a shanty?
Speaker 1: I was like like, like, like, I believe Dug Bankers
Speaker 1: involved because the Dug Banker, you know all guy and
Speaker 1: Peter from Master Pil did a great job, bro great
Speaker 1: like even down to the backstory of how the area
Speaker 1: got built up by the contractor that their grandfather Griffin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the people that the Griffin, yeah grandfather, Like I don't
Speaker 1: think the history would have been known like that at
Speaker 1: least that the black and then the riots happened and
Speaker 1: they cut off the streets with the trucks. Is though. Yeah, definitely,
Speaker 1: Queen's got a lot of history. We got a lot
Speaker 1: of history, got a lot of history, man, Queen's get
Speaker 1: the money man. So so what were you doing in
Speaker 1: Passes Downtown? Yeah, he just got that. I was actually
Speaker 1: I was actually in a mentorship program at Passions at
Speaker 1: the strip club. There's a mentorship programs a strip club.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, passors was a mentorship. I was mentorship. He
Speaker 1: was ordered with mentorship or single moms no, um, because
Speaker 1: I was all her mentorships and um we were. It
Speaker 1: was basically like there was like an hour class that
Speaker 1: just consisted of baby oil. There was an our class that, um,
Speaker 1: you know, we would show you know, like basically richmantic,
Speaker 1: how much to actually do a transaction for like the
Speaker 1: medio ship. Are you saying he wasn't painting for a
Speaker 1: little world? I'm saying, I hold the mentorship. I don't
Speaker 1: even me. What's your program that my son doesn't know about?
Speaker 1: Did penship? Don't on it? But did this type of
Speaker 1: mentor ship? EPC? Did this type of mentor ship? Okay?
Speaker 1: I don't know that. My head was, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: if you know, you know, we need to cool it
Speaker 1: for a lot of stuff. Um. So basically, do we
Speaker 1: know other people who entered this mentorship? Um? No, I
Speaker 1: mean you know I actually had that. I had a situation.
Speaker 1: Um you know that happened on on school grounds out there.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, you know sometimes you know, people want
Speaker 1: to change their homes, their homeroom teacher. It's okay though,
Speaker 1: you know, man, thiss got weird you a whole room school.
Speaker 1: Like I said that away the mentorship program, I'm believing
Speaker 1: at that for single moms, who mama, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: with baby who got the baby? Because there was baby? Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know about a baby because there's a mean
Speaker 1: right now And that says how that comes if you
Speaker 1: need to know what's you know what the funny thing
Speaker 1: is like? Man, you like that's like t you like
Speaker 1: ten four right now? That's like who to how you
Speaker 1: till forward? This one? I don't know, you know, nigga Yo,
Speaker 1: Nigga asked that nigga about passions. Okay, we're your points.
Speaker 1: The one I ready. I was gonna say I'm ready
Speaker 1: for anything, but I definitely like world. So you you
Speaker 1: like Wyoming? You've been to Wyoming? Yeah, pleasant, I like
Speaker 1: I liked it as it was you around was you
Speaker 1: did when he had the hat on the Maga hat,
Speaker 1: there's only one that Yeah, no one now came after that.
Speaker 1: I came after the TMZ. I was. I was actually
Speaker 1: running the Tribes Merchandise um Um initiative that they have
Speaker 1: with Sony so had had. I was coming off of
Speaker 1: just doing a collaboration with Billionaire boy Club. We did that.
Speaker 1: We did a U trial Buar City jacket for the
Speaker 1: Space program um record. We did it with Frell with
Speaker 1: you know, his own BBCs. We did Dad, We did
Speaker 1: it for Locker Drop. He did a drop with fans
Speaker 1: and then I dropped the phone. When I seen the
Speaker 1: TMZ ship, I was like, or when he said that
Speaker 1: the slavery is a choice, Yeah, the whole ship. It
Speaker 1: was just like, you know, the Twitter ship was going
Speaker 1: off crazy and I was just like, what the fuck okay?
Speaker 1: And I just happened to call I just actually uh
Speaker 1: hockey down Jay by accident, and he picked up. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, oh ship, what else? Son And you know,
Speaker 1: we had a conversation and he and he actually was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: why don't you just come? I hadn't seen him in
Speaker 1: a while. Um. Um, but you know we was tapping,
Speaker 1: tapping in here's here's here's something to go viral. Um.
Speaker 1: What many people don't know is that Kanye at one
Speaker 1: point was supposed to join trial for the last album
Speaker 1: Wild Fight still was alive. No Fifer passed away. Because
Speaker 1: Fight passed, He's gonna join trial. Um, and that's why
Speaker 1: he's actually on the Killing Season record. UM. So we
Speaker 1: had really started connecting, but I was over here he was,
Speaker 1: he was doing what he was doing, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Um, some of the teams each having I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, honestly, I just you know, I'm looking. You know.
Speaker 1: When it did happen that I actually called, was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you good, and was shift nigga, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And we just started laughing and doing, you know, having
Speaker 1: our conversation. And then he was like, yo, Yo, why
Speaker 1: don't you just come come? Why don't you just come
Speaker 1: out to Wyoming? Had you been to Whiteoming before? Never
Speaker 1: been to whim? And I was like, did did did
Speaker 1: your did your your negro sensis start going off? Nigga
Speaker 1: three o'clock in the morning. There were there was a
Speaker 1: moose outside of my cabin. What the fun was? And
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, outside that was sucking ship looking at
Speaker 1: this ship like an old stag and got a hammer
Speaker 1: soup dangerous actually over you with the moose. Remember one
Speaker 1: wants to like going the moose that nigga. Look, you
Speaker 1: don't know now I'm doing on the counter. This niggas
Speaker 1: around like dash. It was crazy on the word with blocks.
Speaker 1: Gotta stayed at one top. So like the first day
Speaker 1: and going to the gym, right, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like my ship on phoning gym. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: A fox is walking down the street like fox, fucking fox.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen the part. No, never
Speaker 1: nigga man felt like even making a silly nigga like yo, yo,
Speaker 1: what the but we I like this ship called the
Speaker 1: first time we asked him. We go to the Bearsville before, Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: but go back to your story question. It's funny. I
Speaker 1: just didn't enjoy from Mike geronim No, and here's Bill
Speaker 1: but not not maeh to see im now his career
Speaker 1: I put him on Well, yeah, the first time went
Speaker 1: to bears Bill was with Mike Geronimo. Okay, let's get
Speaker 1: back the story for story. So but this ship is
Speaker 1: that the Armitage, which is the most it's wooding, but
Speaker 1: like Nigga's like, who the funk was staying there thinking
Speaker 1: that oil Nigga? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I want to say it's like Harrison Ford was out there,
Speaker 1: like Nigga spend any of the Jones money at that ship, right,
Speaker 1: So it's like real selective. We're thugging this ship out.
Speaker 1: I mean like because because because the thing about me
Speaker 1: and yeah is like we don't really got the whole once.
Speaker 1: Once we reconnect, it's it's it's back to what it is,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's like Niggas is just fucking
Speaker 1: like it. You know, we running through the records, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Um, So it was a great
Speaker 1: It was actually a great experience, but it just started
Speaker 1: out it started out kind of crazy. But Nas is there.
Speaker 1: Naus was there when I got there. Yeah, nas was
Speaker 1: nas was there because right right, right, right right? So
Speaker 1: we did you joint kissy goos. Then we went to
Speaker 1: l A for Tiana ship. Well we finished Nash. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we went to l A for Tiana ship and then
Speaker 1: nah sh it was was last yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: so that ship was ill though that it was ill,
Speaker 1: that ship was ill. So earlier we touched on m
Speaker 1: I told your ghostwriter, you made it, you made it clear.
Speaker 1: That's a different songwriter a songwriter, right, So can you
Speaker 1: tell people lifference between ghost writer songwriter? For those that
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm here in the flesh and my name
Speaker 1: is the ghost. You don't know ghost is And I
Speaker 1: said it before. I feel like it's you know, the
Speaker 1: term ghost right, and actually povertizes especially hip hop because
Speaker 1: you don't there's no ghost pop writer, right. The writers
Speaker 1: usually credited, right. You know. It's like Diane Martell is
Speaker 1: not a ghostwriter, She's a songwriter, right. She wrote and
Speaker 1: Bring My Heart for Tony Braxton, Right, nothing directed Diane.
Speaker 1: I mean Diane, what's her name? It is a Dane
Speaker 1: you know one of you, lady is the lady named Diane.
Speaker 1: I forgot names, so something. And the point that I'm
Speaker 1: trying to make is that at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: these people are credited, given their proper credit. Diane Warren,
Speaker 1: thank you, and hip hop is like a bad word,
Speaker 1: no hip hop and it's a bad dole, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's a it's more of a thing
Speaker 1: where it's um like to say, you have a gholser
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And pop and other genres they don't
Speaker 1: mind putting upright because in there and for them, it's
Speaker 1: all about the final The final product is the only
Speaker 1: thing that matters when hip hop because hip hop is
Speaker 1: also a culture and it feels like itself made. So
Speaker 1: I don't want to give credit to say that somebody
Speaker 1: else helped make You're part of the rules of the
Speaker 1: culture was always being your own person, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, being having that individuality. Um. So, when you
Speaker 1: were presenting yourself as an m C, um, you're presenting
Speaker 1: your you're presenting yourself right, But when you're presenting yourself
Speaker 1: as a rapper, you don't have to be an m
Speaker 1: C to make a hit record, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And so of the the while, I say it's a
Speaker 1: battle because the bad A lot of in retrospect, lot
Speaker 1: of people should have song writer's, A lot of rappers
Speaker 1: are in position to be bigger, but they don't, and
Speaker 1: they they're they're clinging to the culture. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you as a as a business person,
Speaker 1: as a businessman or woman in in the music business,
Speaker 1: every resource is that your available, is that your available
Speaker 1: as long as the budget allows for such. Right, So
Speaker 1: why would you be why would you be at a
Speaker 1: at a at a six seven figure level as far
Speaker 1: as as a performer, But then minimalize yourself to like
Speaker 1: the elbow grease of writing it all yourself and you're
Speaker 1: and you're not and it's not clicking or or or
Speaker 1: trying to produce it all yourself when when you may
Speaker 1: because you've been on tour, maybe you're a little bit
Speaker 1: out of touch of what radio is doing, what spot,
Speaker 1: what the playlists are doing, what's happening on YouTube. You
Speaker 1: know the number one thing what your brand is brand retention. Right,
Speaker 1: So there is no boundary in that. It's a boundary.
Speaker 1: It's a boundary that you create for yourself and hip hop.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Because it doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: you're still not like because Kanye has stated that he
Speaker 1: has someone writers is not collaborative. Don't say anything at you.
Speaker 1: We're talking to Mr so So saying all that to
Speaker 1: say that at the end of the day, um yeah,
Speaker 1: like he the number one thing should be final product
Speaker 1: when you get to a certain level as far as
Speaker 1: a name brand, like you know, like when I feel
Speaker 1: like I can't do do the task, then you know,
Speaker 1: if the budget allows for that, then yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: have no problem bringing in nobody to be like Yo,
Speaker 1: whether you keep the whole thing you sparked the idea
Speaker 1: of whatever cases, it's all about getting to to the
Speaker 1: next level. Two that you could be on the radio
Speaker 1: is that you can show why do people always um
Speaker 1: label Dr Dre has a great and everyone knows that
Speaker 1: even like easy Easy he said ice cube right the
Speaker 1: rhymes that I said, Dr Dre is a great everyone
Speaker 1: knows depending on the album that people rights rhyme. But
Speaker 1: they labeled him a great. But yeah, and still when
Speaker 1: people find out, like people like Drake or Kanye West
Speaker 1: has a little help. The purest pist I think, I think,
Speaker 1: I think kind of two different. But the purist accept
Speaker 1: that the purists is like Yo. But but they're saying
Speaker 1: that he said it for Dr Dre, I think, I think,
Speaker 1: but he has collaborators as well. He has people helping
Speaker 1: to play stuff. And I think that Dre was a
Speaker 1: pioneer for a coast and the sound, and I think
Speaker 1: that's me for a lot of people. That supersedes the
Speaker 1: nitpicking of whether he wrote something or not, I think,
Speaker 1: and I think Dre always was presented in a in
Speaker 1: a communal sense. When he put out n w A,
Speaker 1: it was him and others. When he put out the Chronic,
Speaker 1: it was him and others. There's never really been Dr
Speaker 1: Drayden solo, to be all honest, Every Drey record is
Speaker 1: a communal situation. So him rapping the production was it
Speaker 1: was always thought that it was just him, but it's
Speaker 1: all always been, There's never been. He's always been a
Speaker 1: front man, but it's never been all Dr Dre project. No, no, no, Right.
Speaker 1: So the thing is like, so he's never presented himself
Speaker 1: as a Drake, like a drake, right, Drake came and
Speaker 1: presented as presented, this is jovial young money, present Drake
Speaker 1: as an individual. Right, so we we make the assumption
Speaker 1: that this is the individual who's doing it all. And no,
Speaker 1: it's never was explained that, oh he could be collaborating
Speaker 1: the brand, Yeah, the brand on the Nothing that Drake
Speaker 1: did was wrong. It just the information was a league, right.
Speaker 1: It was presented as the least. It was presented as
Speaker 1: something that the public didn't know, right. So then then
Speaker 1: then that made you scratch your head and like, so
Speaker 1: is the guy that I thought or you the guy
Speaker 1: that I thought? Right, that's the number one thing in
Speaker 1: hip hop we won't it's authenticity, or you're the guy
Speaker 1: we thought you was. You know what I'm saying. Everybody
Speaker 1: who's ran into that kind of wall, it's been based
Speaker 1: on their authenticity. Oh now we don't believe you. You
Speaker 1: need more people, you know what I'm saying. So let
Speaker 1: me ask you. I'm gonna take a pece you could ask. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: Game said that on here, we had him on He
Speaker 1: said that Kanye did more for him in the last
Speaker 1: two weeks and Dr Dre has done his whole career.
Speaker 1: What do you what do you feel about that statement?
Speaker 1: And where was you? Did you hear that statement? And y'allman, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it was on it was on the internet.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: Game has admitted that he was in his he was
Speaker 1: in his films about the Super Bowl, right, So, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, Game, when he and his feelings, he'd be
Speaker 1: laying it off like so, I don't even know if
Speaker 1: he even I don't know what his intent was. I
Speaker 1: think he just felt away about like, you know, exclusion, rejection,
Speaker 1: false narratives of relationships drive people to say and do
Speaker 1: things right, Um, yeah you can say that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I mean, yeah, that's that's fair to say, like, um,
Speaker 1: disappointment and things that I need to drive people to Like,
Speaker 1: I don't even know that's a game true feeling. I
Speaker 1: just think Game felt defensive, like he felt excluded. He
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That was a big moment,
Speaker 1: and you know, he definitely was, as we could see,
Speaker 1: he was getting enough to put out a project. So
Speaker 1: in his mind, maybe he felt like because Kanye actually
Speaker 1: had done certain things in that two week period around
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, that he was excluded from that and
Speaker 1: it made him say It led to him saying that, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: it's a speculation. I don't know, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I definitely don't know, but you know that that that
Speaker 1: that's that that could be, that could be what that
Speaker 1: could be a lane for that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So you know, oh, well man, we actually what's next
Speaker 1: for though we didn't actually you asked me what next?
Speaker 1: So so like I said, I got the album, come
Speaker 1: now we got we got the first single is that
Speaker 1: attached to a project. Project of the project was called
Speaker 1: nice doing business with you? Nice? Yeah? Yeah? What's that
Speaker 1: a statement? It definitely yeah. I mean it's a vive
Speaker 1: I mean because I think you know, I'm at the
Speaker 1: point and in first and foremost it's just a statements
Speaker 1: in myself, like you know what I'm saying, like the
Speaker 1: things that I've been through. So that's the old me.
Speaker 1: I ain't moving like that no more. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, So it was just nice doing business
Speaker 1: with that guy from from the tribe. It's nice doing
Speaker 1: that business with the guy from going to music. It
Speaker 1: was you know, the best way the part on business
Speaker 1: terms is to tell somebody nice doing business with you. Right,
Speaker 1: So you're saying you're old. Yes, I'm just saying I'm
Speaker 1: want some new ship, super ceo facts making making every decision,
Speaker 1: No man, but one of two records flew me down here.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's that's your ship. You gott to run
Speaker 1: it from them. One not too right, and whoever else
Speaker 1: wanted it? Now? Man, but I was I said it earlier.
Speaker 1: Oh and I was playing, But I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 1: really playing. Would you really do versus against somebody? And
Speaker 1: if so, who do you think it's a worthy of port?
Speaker 1: I don't know, kick cutting, No, we don't. We don't
Speaker 1: do the same thing. Yeah, that's that's what versus sometimes
Speaker 1: it's about. I mean, if it was a celebration sitting everything,
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know, not everything. Ain't some someb'
Speaker 1: get nasty. Yeah, you've seen it. You've seen it up
Speaker 1: the three six shots. Some of that you'd get nasty.
Speaker 1: I'm dreaming. Um ah, you're talking about like the san
Speaker 1: No Sean. Yeah, and they wanted in the same movie.
Speaker 1: But like's in the same moment. It's been right right
Speaker 1: right right right right right right now. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's something to think about, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I've seen. I wouldn't want to say no names because
Speaker 1: I've seen what happened with I like both of these things.
Speaker 1: Seen what happened with Bleak and Jewels. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I gotta see. I'm just
Speaker 1: so I'm an album cycle. Charles Hamilton, Charles Hamilton, that's
Speaker 1: I'm just bringing out the wood work. That's the word. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he nice guy, though, I don't, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: only got the plan Asia plan in Asia. I mean, um,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if that would make sense
Speaker 1: for viewers. Okay, let's come on, let's keep thinking, y'all.
Speaker 1: You gotta relax. No, I would, I would Dad too,
Speaker 1: and you know nobody. I mean, I mean, if it
Speaker 1: was in the cell, if it was like Red and Math,
Speaker 1: then yeah, me and Tip. But I wouldn't go you're
Speaker 1: a cute Tip against Red and Math. You know what
Speaker 1: I would you know, you know, you know you know
Speaker 1: what you know that would do. I wouldn't do. I
Speaker 1: would do me and Tip versus Black Star and put
Speaker 1: money off damn breaking news. You you do if Tip
Speaker 1: would down to do it, Me and Tip versus Black Star,
Speaker 1: you in Tip versus Black Star, not try versus Black Star,
Speaker 1: Me and Q Tip versus most definite quality. And I
Speaker 1: mean that's friends respectful, like yeah, it's still respectful. But
Speaker 1: I would do that. I would do that. I would
Speaker 1: definitely do that, and I'm and yeah, I would do that.
Speaker 1: I would do that. I'm gonna do that. I'm not
Speaker 1: you know, extrusive thing is not really uh diversus thing.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying if it's just throwing an idea
Speaker 1: as far as like because you put me with him,
Speaker 1: I was like, you know you want to put me
Speaker 1: him versus them too? Yeah, the whole native tongue one
Speaker 1: would be dope where it's a celebration but showing showcasing
Speaker 1: everybody's records. I mean, what's your guy happen? I don't
Speaker 1: thinking would though, but it would be dope. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that but nobody or need to talk who No, No,
Speaker 1: the whole the whole native tongue comes out you j
Speaker 1: B no. No. At this point, they was throwing around
Speaker 1: trial versus outcast. That would be crazy. Yeah, that would
Speaker 1: be dope. Actually, you know, I've never got my trial
Speaker 1: called qush plaque. But let's get back to your ship.
Speaker 1: They say, yeah, that's um. Actually I didn't even get
Speaker 1: one for the last month I'm doing. I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I mean, you know I'll
Speaker 1: be picking up my thing is wired transfers. That's what
Speaker 1: I respect. You keep going, No, I'm not sure it's
Speaker 1: about the white transfer. So um, so one on one
Speaker 1: verses you're not really interested in I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying I'm not interested. I'm just I mean because I'm
Speaker 1: the first two artists that you name were, um, I
Speaker 1: don't know what they currently have out, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: Like it's kind of it turned into like a status
Speaker 1: thing and like yours this and you're this and you're this,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm I'm humble enough to say like
Speaker 1: I got my I got my first thing, while in
Speaker 1: a minute, I've been doing a bunch of see my verses,
Speaker 1: isn't fair because I'm right for other people and myself,
Speaker 1: nobody's being blood staining. Let's be clear, nobody, nobody have
Speaker 1: nothing out that's gonna beat that ship right now right
Speaker 1: But he don't have nothing now right this minute. Common
Speaker 1: would be a good one. I mean that that would
Speaker 1: that would be a headye. I mean, you know, Common
Speaker 1: got a lot of records. Though I ain't gonna lie,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not, I'm not over here. And he
Speaker 1: used to love him. He got a lot of records.
Speaker 1: I'll be comming the NBA live. When I first joined tribe,
Speaker 1: when he had the line, I would comment as different,
Speaker 1: but yeah, we're not common ism, you know, comming a legend.
Speaker 1: Ain't know, you can't take it on the way what
Speaker 1: I'm saying like, you know, I'm never I'll celebrating all
Speaker 1: this too. It ain't just about me that I don't
Speaker 1: take learning away from you, I said, like with the
Speaker 1: other people, I'm not. I could have been like man,
Speaker 1: nothing all right, because because look, I want to be
Speaker 1: honest with you. And Nigga ain't know home bots the
Speaker 1: niggas getting no paper. No, I mean, let's let's just
Speaker 1: just be real, like you could call up hold the
Speaker 1: names you want. Niggas is niggas apprehended by poverty, all
Speaker 1: behind the back in the fucking ball, backling chicken wing
Speaker 1: like nigga hurt, you know what I mean. So you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm not a sore winner though
Speaker 1: I'm not here to putting nobody facing a bowl of shit.
Speaker 1: I'm not oning that I'll lift before I do any
Speaker 1: of that, you know what I'm saying. But you know
Speaker 1: I mean. But but I'm I am a rapper. I'm
Speaker 1: an m C first, and part of being a MC
Speaker 1: is this ship. The rob Van damn ship. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So like when you say certain niggas,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even climbed through the ring ropes for certain niggas.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna be You're not gonna get past Paronoid
Speaker 1: over eight Away Heartbreak. Who you think wrote that? Read
Speaker 1: your credits. You're not getting past Paranoid. You're not. You
Speaker 1: might not get past Grammy family. I'll call my ship
Speaker 1: out because see, when you participate in the Ryan, it's
Speaker 1: part of yours, part of your compositors. So how are
Speaker 1: you gonna get past on core? Nigger? Kanye called me.
Speaker 1: I was at a barbecue and we we wrote to
Speaker 1: hook the Encore on the phone. Two thousand and three,
Speaker 1: jay Z wrote the wrong not taking another away from
Speaker 1: jay Z, I'm telling how the hook came out. I
Speaker 1: said this to me. Every spoke about this before. That's
Speaker 1: part of my exactly. No, No, I'm not no, No,
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care about it. So technically
Speaker 1: I could throw on Core. Great. So then once again,
Speaker 1: if they're gonna play more fucking whatever the funk song,
Speaker 1: you gotta handle that. You gotta handle that, you gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta handle off. You gotta handle a bunch of
Speaker 1: ship and they're good. You you, you gotta handle spaceship.
Speaker 1: What you're gonna do about the spaceship not not too much.
Speaker 1: And who we're talking about again, whoever the fuck dot com,
Speaker 1: dot com, dot org go to go daddy dot com
Speaker 1: or the whole three of them ships dot I think
Speaker 1: that's the way. That's that's the way your coughs. I
Speaker 1: just want to tell you, man, Uh, it's not a
Speaker 1: lot of people who to every era that you survived to.
Speaker 1: That's that's what's crazy. And almost every era in the
Speaker 1: last couple of you know, you've been there, You've been relevant,
Speaker 1: you've been involved with some of the biggest projects that's
Speaker 1: been out. Uh. I want to tell you you know,
Speaker 1: that's not going unnoticed. That's going with a big salute
Speaker 1: to it. Because in order to stay of stay alive
Speaker 1: and survived in this game, I know how hard it is.
Speaker 1: Trust me, I know how hard of this I say,
Speaker 1: and I take my hat off. I'll take my hat
Speaker 1: off to y'all thanks to you. Um. You know, once again,
Speaker 1: we the first time we actually meant what the shades
Speaker 1: of hip hop it's like. And you know, you know,
Speaker 1: I did Drink Chance before when I did it with Tribe.
Speaker 1: You know, we've all stayed in touch since then. I've
Speaker 1: watched you guys become to become become to culture when
Speaker 1: it comes to interviews and YouTube and just just and
Speaker 1: just having artists giving giving the platform that you'll started
Speaker 1: and seeing how don't see of good intent have flourished
Speaker 1: for you guys. Man, you don't take my basically basically
Speaker 1: said you see a lot of ship. Basically you're saying
Speaker 1: not even that right now. I see y'alla see y'all
Speaker 1: become number one. Yes, that's wrack. So that's the whole thing.
Speaker 1: And whether the analytics is one, is two or three
Speaker 1: or Apple of Music, whatever it is, the conversation is
Speaker 1: number one. The conversation has the impact and that's the
Speaker 1: whole thing. It's just like it's a hit record, Drink
Speaker 1: Chance is the head. So we we interviewed Dave Chappelle
Speaker 1: and Dave said, we're just like, yo, you want to
Speaker 1: get this The water was like yo, I said, I said,
Speaker 1: we um, I'm forget what I said about I think
Speaker 1: gonna talking about um the documentary And Dave Chappelle said,
Speaker 1: great guy, and he has great teeth. Yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: he was talking about the old model that you got
Speaker 1: it up with the twenty two for queens get the
Speaker 1: money right, right, So it's the recipes to the over there,
Speaker 1: yeah man, And you know we're all here and ship
Speaker 1: looking right. I little I ain't out here DJ and
Speaker 1: for chicken fingers like a nigger man is though, what's
Speaker 1: causing all this brick Flint said, I ain't out here
Speaker 1: DJ for chicken fingers. They don't call me d J.
Speaker 1: Honey mustard. Nigga man ain't my man. So like I
Speaker 1: told you when we did the text, it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: like that that that's that's that's a nigga getting shut off,
Speaker 1: and that's cool. That's my man. He shouted me out
Speaker 1: on the Grammys. You know what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 1: but you know, like them shoutouts, you gotta watch some
Speaker 1: shoutouts because then I'm like, shout niggas out like it
Speaker 1: ain't nothing. Nig y'allers don't y'all nigga, you ain't just
Speaker 1: don't like to buying movie between nigga. It ain't stopped
Speaker 1: in two sixteen because Virgil Gon, we're sending it to
Speaker 1: me like I said, it's not a lot of people
Speaker 1: who survived with what what what the this line of
Speaker 1: question is the question in general because because you know,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of ships that goes on this, a
Speaker 1: lot of ship that you know, you stayed strong for
Speaker 1: and you here, you're still to the test of time
Speaker 1: and you and you here. So we want to get
Speaker 1: your flowers what we did. Wanna you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: salute you and we're gonna We're gonna you got anything
Speaker 1: else to say? Anything else want to say? Uh, while
Speaker 1: we're on while we're on revote, make sure you follow
Speaker 1: me on Instagram at car cv um repost any clip
Speaker 1: from this interview, because I'm sure when I reflect back
Speaker 1: on it, I'll be like, at least let me see
Speaker 1: it hit a million and that's what ma, And then
Speaker 1: what do you can say? So let's make it learn.
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