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Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect

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Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio and his Drink Chas motherfucking podcast. Mason,

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Speaker 1: he's a legendary queen's rapper. He's agree. It's your boy

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Speaker 1: in O R. He's a Miami hippop pioneer up his

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Speaker 1: DJ e f N. Together they drink it up with

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Speaker 1: some of the biggest players in the most professional unprofessional

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Speaker 1: podcast and your number one sorts for drunk fast drinks.

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Speaker 1: Motherfucking is New year' z. Just for Drink Champs. Trink

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Speaker 1: Up Mother Mother, would a goodby, hopefully would a super

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Speaker 1: this ship boy in O R? What up is d

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Speaker 1: J e f N and his Drink Chace? Motherfucker? Ya

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Speaker 1: make now when you talk about a legend legend talking

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Speaker 1: about a man who's who, who's not only made hits,

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Speaker 1: but been behind constant hits for years. She came in

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Speaker 1: a game. I believe he first heard him the first

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Speaker 1: time we heard him. Officially, it's ninety six with try

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Speaker 1: but I already started out ninety People gonna ask that later,

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Speaker 1: but he has been uh you know, you know, I

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Speaker 1: had to do my due diligence and I had to go.

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Speaker 1: You know, look at other interviews, he's been doing other things.

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Speaker 1: And boy, it's a Rooter coaster and most of us

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Speaker 1: love Rota coasters. It's it's it's been, you know, a

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Speaker 1: great time. But the man, when the man feels something,

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Speaker 1: he expresses it. He's not in type the whole back.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna talk when he fails, he's gonna feel what

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Speaker 1: he says and all that. But the case you don't

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Speaker 1: know I'm talking about. We're talking about one of the

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Speaker 1: illness ghost riders in the game when us hit makers

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Speaker 1: in the game. Excuse me, excuse me, because he gets

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Speaker 1: his credit, he gets his credit, his name want the

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Speaker 1: back of y'all y'all mean, yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Case you don't know shows a little bit, a little bit,

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Speaker 1: a little bit, But case you don't know what we're

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Speaker 1: talking to talk about the mother one, the only my

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Speaker 1: home girl que consequence on Google. Let's get straight on

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Speaker 1: Google and say to Google, that's a rando, could be

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Speaker 1: a reporter or whatever, just hasn't hasn't done. No, that's

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. No that I didn't say. The first

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Speaker 1: thing you started and started ninety three rhyme. I guess

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Speaker 1: your first official record was ninety six before that is

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Speaker 1: eighty nine. Wow, that's yeah, you know it's funny. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I felt like kel hard when he was interviewing M

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Speaker 1: to dud he said damn like I almost said that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Q till mom uh was pretty much my first co sign.

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Speaker 1: So um, my grandma. What happened with my grandma's daughter

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Speaker 1: at eighty nine and a friend of mine who I

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Speaker 1: eventually endo rapping where his brother got killed, uh same

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Speaker 1: to eighty eight he got popped and like um and

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Speaker 1: the dead end. So what happened was my man, my

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Speaker 1: Manikee he his his brother Lamar used to wrap so

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Speaker 1: Ike to cope with the grief, took his rap book

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Speaker 1: and started saying his wraps. And then my grandma she

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Speaker 1: died in leukemia. Uh eighty nine. So I started writing

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Speaker 1: because I saw how it helped Ike, you know, uh

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Speaker 1: So that's how I actually started rapping, and um Q

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Speaker 1: to mom um actually so what I was doing. And

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Speaker 1: as eventually me uh giving being given the opportunity in

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Speaker 1: ninety three. But to do the shase part too, shout out,

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Speaker 1: shout out to Mama Davis, your kid, to mothers and sisters. Na,

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Speaker 1: we were second were second cousins. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So it's a it's a, it's a. I moved to

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Speaker 1: My mom and popad Opops was in the Navy, so

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Speaker 1: mom de Pops eventually divorce and then we came back

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Speaker 1: to came back to the East. But y'all, I was

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Speaker 1: from New York and my sister was born in San Diego. Okay, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So that's how that that's how. Yes, I actually got

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Speaker 1: a six one, six one nine number. I'm about to

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Speaker 1: turn off, but I got a six one number. Um,

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Speaker 1: just and and how much to that time period? Right,

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Speaker 1: So let's let's not let's go over because, like I said,

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Speaker 1: there's a couple of interviews with you out there now.

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Speaker 1: We're doing drink chances of all, when we spoke, right,

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Speaker 1: the point. Let's get let's get the one point. I

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Speaker 1: see the Kanye documentary, Okay, I hit you. I thought

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Speaker 1: And I was like, yo, bro, this was this is

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Speaker 1: thought that you didn't like it from the first episode.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember we spoke since then, right, But um, well,

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Speaker 1: my take on it. You know, there's a business side

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Speaker 1: a just a perspective from living in you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. The business side, Um, I ain't working with

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Speaker 1: certain niggers because of that. But when you say business

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Speaker 1: the way it was put together the documentary or I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna be on Netflix and I don't get no check,

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Speaker 1: that's that's against my principle, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: Like when he gave you the intro, you know, Rollercoast

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Speaker 1: to this, that and the thrub. But once again, I've

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Speaker 1: always been able to retain uh ownership of what I

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Speaker 1: do how I do it, my likeness, so forth and

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Speaker 1: so on. So when someone takes that, it takes it

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Speaker 1: upon themselves not to I just saw the way. But dinner, right,

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Speaker 1: I just signed a way to be on Netflix. I

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Speaker 1: gotta sign a way. But to be on Netflix, that's

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Speaker 1: that's business. I don't got nothing to do. But but

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Speaker 1: but who who do we point to finger for? That?

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Speaker 1: Is it? Is it you? Because now it's not yet.

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Speaker 1: So let's just be clear, right, actually does great business,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You know, I tipped my

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Speaker 1: hat to him. You know, even from the outside looking interview,

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Speaker 1: if anybody knew the extent of our relationship, we've done

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Speaker 1: great business over then Yeah, it's been as a road coaster.

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Speaker 1: You're dealing with some a person, uh who's who a

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Speaker 1: bus through certain frontiers for um, not only yourself, but

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Speaker 1: for for the culture. You know. So that's gonna come

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Speaker 1: with that's gonna come with growing pains. I was with

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Speaker 1: you from when you've seen in the documentary, like literally

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Speaker 1: when we he was trying to figure out all falls down.

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Speaker 1: But that's him trying to figure it out. That's the

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Speaker 1: first day that that was maybe like the fourth time

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Speaker 1: I was with Kanye. That was the first time I

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Speaker 1: I believe I would see we're skipping things, were skipping things.

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Speaker 1: Because the one thing about the documentary is like, Yo,

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Speaker 1: I was already for all in sense of purposes famous,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So the thing, one thing

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Speaker 1: all my oh the fam that came as far as

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Speaker 1: like me and Kanye Lincoln. But you know, a lot

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Speaker 1: and I actually started with Kanye, which I could understand

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Speaker 1: pick up on it. Right, So hip hop starts for

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Speaker 1: it's it's blasphemy, right, you know what I'm saying, because

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Speaker 1: and its Kanye documentary. So it's fine. I don't have

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Speaker 1: the issue then becomes that this Kanye documentary then for

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing. Once someone takes it in on

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Speaker 1: Back to Loving hip Hop for a second. No matter

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Speaker 1: what Love and Hip Hop does, when you sign that contract,

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Speaker 1: appeared in three episodes in That of a Genius and

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Speaker 1: but we'll stay on the subject. Is it always all

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Speaker 1: about money? Yes? Absolutely, set it's absolutely with nobody. That's

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Speaker 1: absolutely about that paper because me, I don't got nothing

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Speaker 1: There's not queens play no game. So where's my money? Right? Right?

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Speaker 1: having a great career in Chicago. So he he was.

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00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: I never met car I've never seen Kanye struggle. I've

423
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: never seen none of that boat. But when he came

424
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: to Polo, I mean, I mean before the pink Polo

425
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: was part of the product. I mean when I met him,

426
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: you know, he had a bands, he wanted the bigger bands.

427
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: He had dreams that he wanted to see see coming

428
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: to fruition, and he just it was it was more

429
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 1: about having the tools. Um. So, so when I said

430
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: earlier about him me being the one that he would

431
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: he would actually rap with, take rap from etcetera, etcetera, etcetera,

432
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: It's real. It's at you know, at one point we

433
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: developed a comfort level to where it was like yo, yo,

434
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: help me with this wrong with that joint, you know

435
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Remember I did UM. I had wrote

436
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: a record UM that we we wanted to submit for

437
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 1: UM little Kim, and she wound up using the choruses

438
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: called came Back for You so on Labella, the owner

439
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: Labella Mafia album actually wrote came up with the idea

440
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: for the chorus. Um, and I had rhyms that I

441
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: wanted Kim to take. What Kim was very specific about

442
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: not taking. Wanted to have a ghostwriter at that time

443
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: or whatever. And you know, but the ship was firing. Um.

444
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: You know, Kanye definitely was like, you know, I had

445
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: to do the Brandy joint. Uh that man and man,

446
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: he had to do the Brandy job. He gave the

447
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: record man, you know, no, and you know the fans

448
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: Watson this no, you know what I mean. You know,

449
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: I got the shades on all and hit you with

450
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: the wing wing, but you know what I mean. Um,

451
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: So so that that for begin with what that's what

452
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 1: began a level of trust, you know what I'm saying

453
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: between he and I. You know what I'm saying. And

454
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: and we made a lot of other but like my

455
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 1: point was, I have had to see a lot of

456
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: people try to do a lot of things just to

457
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: get in that position. And it wasn't something that I

458
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: ever I ever did. I never did that. I never.

459
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: I never was, like, I never was on that because

460
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: I didn't really have to be, because it was when

461
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: we developed our relationship. Did you guys connect? We we

462
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: met right after he did the Blueprint. Um we were

463
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: introduced uh through to each other from by Ad eight Keys. Um.

464
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: I met Ad eight Keys back in the Tribe days. Um,

465
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: he was just you know, he had a relationship with

466
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: Q Tip. They would um a T eight I believe

467
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: worked at a record store, I want to say, and

468
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: Q Tip would go there to get vinyl at the

469
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: time when that was that was the thing with sampling

470
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: or whatever. Um. But AD eight did beats. He was

471
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: trying to get him more. So he called Q Tip's

472
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: crib one day, introduced himself like, yeah, I got beat.

473
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: You know, one thing led to another. I still lived

474
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: in Queens, so I took a trip out to go

475
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: check him, and he had joints and we just became

476
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: friends over time. He just yeah, yeah. So and then

477
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: this is this is the during the recording of beach

478
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: Rims of Life, going into like what would be my

479
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: solo record that didn't the first product that I've made

480
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: that never had came out. It was that was supposed

481
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: to come out through cuts label, the Museum music real

482
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: quick fun fact beat training, left artwork same right, Yeah,

483
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: shout out the game, not just definitely shout understand. I

484
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: actually spoke to him, um, because I wound up. I

485
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: think there was a beach round the Life and there

486
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: was a beach round the Life anniversary and somebody at

487
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: a scam and I was like, I hadn't seen him

488
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: in yet. Um. And then I saw the drink chance look,

489
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: I said, And then I remembered he's from Miami, the local.

490
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: How do you know he did it? It's on the stage. Oh,

491
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: it's on the stage. He just looked at right. Um,

492
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean. So eight eight keys,

493
00:29:54,880 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: so fast forward. Um, it's right at the nine eleven. Uh.

494
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: And I had a deal at rock As that fell through.

495
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: So you're talking about the roller coaster. So like I'm

496
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: popped pop Plezzy, you know what I'm saying. Um. And

497
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,239
Speaker 1: come two thousands and two January eight called me. You know,

498
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: he was like, um, yo, I got a friend of mine,

499
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: um that I just did a joint for and he

500
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: would like we were talking about who could be a

501
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: feature on it, and I brought you in the name

502
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: up and his name is Kanye's knees. You might have

503
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: heard him when he did he did uh a lot

504
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: of the blueprint for jay Z and and another friend

505
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: of miney Um Hans Elder who's uh d dots from

506
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: Crazy uh Devik Angeli's cousin Um had brought him up

507
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: in a conversation and said at the time that me

508
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: and to me and Kanye were very similar. Um. It

509
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: fars like his resonation of music like you get like

510
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: you guys remind me a lot of each other. I

511
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: think it would be cool if y'all hooked up. But

512
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: it was a conversation, yeah, yeah, it was like a premonition,

513
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: like aative tongue sound almost like saying the native tongue

514
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: of sound like both of y'all kind of seemed like

515
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: y'all belonging lative tongue um a more specific to than

516
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: each other, Like, well, I am from the native tongue.

517
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. No, no, we're saying, but

518
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: from the native you know what I'm saying. I mean,

519
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: And I wasn't specifically to the happiness of every member

520
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: of the native tongue, but nonetheless it is what it is.

521
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: It's queens get the money. I can't get it like

522
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: Kindred Spirits right right because because at the time, so

523
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: like the sensibility of sampling, Um, the the Lauren unplugged

524
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: joint is a native tongue sensibility for for all falls,

525
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: you know, like the drum pattern to all fold down

526
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: is a native tongue sensibility. But but you know, I

527
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: think the thing that makes Kanye him also is the

528
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: fact that he's able to jump in and out of

529
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: lanes when it comes to production, especially you know what

530
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: I mean, so the women, and he'll have that sensibility,

531
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: but then could still make um stand up for Luda,

532
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, um or or um obviously

533
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, which does have those same sensibilities.

534
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: But he was able to be the production of to

535
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: where it could go at radio as well. Um. But

536
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: the native tom sensibility is is at core a cultural things.

537
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: So it's like the culture of what the sound is

538
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: in and the musicality. So um, So that's how we

539
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: met that we met the ad in case um I

540
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: did the feature, he offered to pay me three thousand

541
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: or or he would be willing to cut. He would

542
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: be willing up beats. Yeah, let me get first pick.

543
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: So I never I never boiled him about the three

544
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: thousand and like I said before, literally eight off for

545
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: that three thousand for the rest of my life look

546
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: for that guy. So, like I said, I watched these

547
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: three interviews and it was crazy because it was like

548
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: one where you was like real, real, like upset at

549
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: all them from Joe was to to uh, to even

550
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: hope because you don't hold a shot at you talking

551
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: about like that. I never was upset with pump it Up.

552
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: I never was upset with pumping up. I just felt

553
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: like pumping up came out of his faith. So moving before,

554
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to do nothing about pump it up,

555
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: I said. I got a new single out Blood staying

556
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: I can't argue about pump it up. Jesus Jesus. I mean,

557
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I can't, man, come on, pump it off. Uh, God,

558
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: you're turning was I don't want how to pump it up.

559
00:33:54,680 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: I stripped out the party. Hurricane say I've about it up?

560
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: Would you when you can do verses against what don't

561
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: do against pump it up? I called your body man

562
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: when I pump it up, So what are you gonna

563
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: I'm not like I said, no, I'm not going to

564
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: argue about p I U why it is what it is?

565
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like that's it, but no verses.

566
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: Let's let me see your marian like they right, you

567
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: see j W you want him to do pump it

568
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: up and me to see the ship. I wasn't ready

569
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: with that. That ship. Let's move alight. So I wrapped.

570
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 1: I wrapped back to back with busting rhymes on tribe

571
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: out him. I'm so to come on like we gotta

572
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: put some respect, like I'm channeling bird Man. I'm channeling

573
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: bird Man. We got we got to you know what

574
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you know that whole situation was love

575
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: and hip hop and hip hop, right, but let's let's

576
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: be real like outside of loving hip hop, like yo,

577
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: if you run through mine? But you know what a

578
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: rhyme though you can't say say I never said I

579
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: told him to a face you could rap. I never

580
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 1: said Joe can't wrap it. I'm just saying, when you're

581
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: going act, there's a difference between rapping and hits. He

582
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: got a lot of mix tapes, though, so do I.

583
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: I gotta take him to the cleaners. I like this,

584
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: like wh I'm talking so to all, I gotta take

585
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: him to the cleaners. That's the best mixtapes the whole time.

586
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 1: Like I put Kno More on a mixtape before anybody

587
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: did talk. I got Magmillan mixtape. I got a bunch

588
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: of mixtapes. I got a bunch of hits too, and

589
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 1: I got three being my awards. Chunky, we respect that

590
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: I wrote. Next. John Legard is rapping on my first album.

591
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: But don't front moved music. Come on, you front the movies.

592
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: You that when I say that was your chef. You know, Queasy,

593
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: I told you what he was gonna be with that.

594
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: You're like women, I'm just trying to look like people

595
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: halfways defend people ain't here. You know. It ain't about defend.

596
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: I just said, yo, yo, it ain't about defend it.

597
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 1: I know Webbing Nitty personally, those are my man. We will.

598
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was the first thing

599
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: in the hood to be able to take nigga to

600
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: the tunnel. You know what I'm saying. I took niggas. Listen,

601
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 1: Chris Lighty daughter is here. That's my family. I lived

602
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: with Chris Lighty at one point, me and my mom

603
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: doesn't getting along because she didn't understand the whole rap

604
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: dynamic at the time. I'm staying out late. I'm eighteen

605
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: in tribal I'm eighteen in a trial coal quest. They

606
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: got nominated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

607
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: I am not arguing over nobody's mixed respectable. If we're

608
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 1: gonna give me my flowers, I like I listen, Listen,

609
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: respect listen. I like potpourri with a dash and daisy.

610
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: Give me mom, Let's give me. Let's give us right,

611
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: Let's give me my flowers. A perfect segments. Guy, we

612
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 1: don't know if you know our shows about giving people

613
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 1: the motherfucking flowers. And one thing for sure, to think

614
00:37:53,160 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: your motherfucker legends and you deserve your said it's like

615
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: win a Grammy, But from your peers it's been like

616
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: you know what, Listen, man, I waited a year to

617
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: do drink chance. You know that what I'm saying. Man,

618
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: You know you know we've definitely been with you to

619
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: put it together for a minute, and you know you

620
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: know I would. I'm the culture at the end of

621
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: the day is all we got, you know, what I mean, Like,

622
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I can I can

623
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: win whatever validated accolade that comes from the music business.

624
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: But all you only as good as your last game

625
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: out here, you know what I mean. And we know

626
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: that we've watched. We watched the game. Washing nig is up.

627
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Because they didn't stay connected

628
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: to the culture, you know what I mean. So yeah, absolutely,

629
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm taking this home, show this to my son, and

630
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put this up on the joint. Tell me so.

631
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: At one point like like like like you said you

632
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: were a good music it was I think, and I

633
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: didn't never go at good music. No, you would didn't

634
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: got good knew that they ain'tybody took it away. I am,

635
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: I am thinkin said that's what's that words. Listen at

636
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: the end of the at the end of the day, right,

637
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: you gotta understand that gave everybody a job. I gave

638
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: everybody a job. And what I gave everybody a job

639
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: through my sacrifice? Can you paid them? But I said,

640
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: I got the weals on my back, nigga, feel me.

641
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: So every Father's Day, I'll deserve a card every everyone

642
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: because at my notes, I got You saved Big Sean

643
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: from getting dropped? Yea one of percent? How does this happen?

644
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: They have a meeting they like, but drop on dignity.

645
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: I ain't ever tell no story about Big Sean that

646
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: I know personally. You know what I'm saying. I'm not him,

647
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: And yeah they did, they want to things up here.

648
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: I ain't here to do that with Sean, you know

649
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But show was my little Shan was

650
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: my little man when he got sign. You know what

651
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying. If you go to YouTube, you'll see Sean

652
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: get introduced as a member of Good Music at my

653
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: show at the Knitted Afterwards, Me Kanye came out of surprise,

654
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: Guests came out of surprise. Guests had Sean and Kid Cutty.

655
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 1: And that's what they wanted. Like I said, once again,

656
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: to go back to the original point where we got it.

657
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: Like certain people do whatever to get next to yea

658
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: yea John having to be at the radio station. You

659
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But Shawn ain't eat Boston Market

660
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: with Yeah I did. There wasn't no craft services when

661
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: I was around. It wasn't no yeasy, There wasn't no

662
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 1: none of that half a chicken on the whole chicken.

663
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: Come on, I'm starving a half a chicken en listen

664
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: on even requests. O MA, please just make it. You

665
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean? With the breast man, that's it.

666
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: Other than that man, it was that and and in

667
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: the front and in in a trolley magrimony and cheesy

668
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: twenty dollars twenty dollar holiday. You know what I'm saying.

669
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 1: I watched niggers in Atlanta line up with place motherfucker

670
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: and all the mimosas, and I'm getting up first and

671
00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 1: going to bed last, still twenty years later, putting in

672
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 1: that work. We got the chip though, I always putting

673
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: the work for the Chip Grammy family. Yeah, goddamn oh no,

674
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: it can be worked with Beyonce. In fact, goddamnit right,

675
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: worked the Beyonce and worked with Faith, So probably one

676
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: of the only mcs that ever worked with Biggie and

677
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: jay Z's wives holler at me. I didn't look at

678
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: it like that, sir, I didn't. And they both were singles.

679
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: They was an album cause stressed out his single number

680
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: one that urban right, I mean, I'm the one nigger

681
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: all right, right? So how do you and I believe

682
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: you call him Kamal, will be honest with you, I'm

683
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: never gonna call him Kamal. His name is q Tip

684
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 1: to me for the rest of the I'm never calling

685
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: like people calling him talk like who but blah blah. Family.

686
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: You know my mom a family's outside fairly looking at

687
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: But you said, I think he was in mad Camar.

688
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 1: Excuse me. He was mad at cute Tip one day

689
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: and we was talking and he was like, come on,

690
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: mad at cut more than one day. But I didn't know.

691
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: You know, how did you all as cousins for because

692
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: once again, because we because because of because there's a

693
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: thin line, you know. And and there's definitely I think

694
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 1: the number one the number one UM emotion for artists,

695
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: um that makes them kind of go, it's disappointment, you know.

696
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: So there's been yeah, one, there's been times that I've

697
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: been disappointed, But there's times that there's the acute tim

698
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 1: is brought the kind of the kind of opportunities to

699
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: my life that I can't measure even with joy, you

700
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So when y'all that close at

701
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: one time, at one point in my life, my name

702
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: was Ray Tip. That's how close me and me and

703
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: Q Tip are you know so we yeah, we we

704
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: were going through a lot, you know, we you know,

705
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: and took tip credit right, you know Tip. It's funny.

706
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: That's why I mentioned his mom's first and foremost, because

707
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: he said to me, my mom's always knew you was

708
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: the one. You know what I'm saying, you know, and

709
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: now she's she's she's getting older, and um, you know,

710
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: we can't take none of that time for granted. So

711
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, you know, definitely comes see man,

712
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, supporting it is important because

713
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: she she she did call that. And so him saying

714
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: that was that you you're the one that she basically

715
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: selling You're the one. He he's the one used to

716
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: take a chance on, you know. So two cute tips

717
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: credit right, Um, without me going in the trial, I

718
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 1: never meet Kanye, and I never meet Kanye. We don't

719
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: what happens, right because Kanye, you know, I feel like

720
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: Kanye was always gonna Kanye is always gonna be successful.

721
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: He's a successful person, so he understands what it takes

722
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: to be successful. But I do. I mean, he's even

723
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: acknowledged that, you know, and especially in the beginning, you know,

724
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: he and not being around together. You know, it was

725
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: very much. I was very influential in the swag, you

726
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And so you know how I

727
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: look at it, you know, because I have no I

728
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: don't have any venom unless somebody comes at me. And

729
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: you know that that that comes about because the q tip.

730
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because you know, if q

731
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: Tim doesn't say, you know what, I'm going to roll

732
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: the dice on this kid. I'm going to regardless of relationship,

733
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 1: you still gotta be able to hold it. And I

734
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 1: think q T knew I could hold it. And that's

735
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: what his mom was saying, like she knew I could

736
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: hold it. She's like, I'm telling you give it to him.

737
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: He's gonna be able to hold it. I held it

738
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: for beach round like him. Out of ninety six twenty

739
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: six years, I've held it and and it's been a

740
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: mechanical bull. So it's like you know you hold no,

741
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: you're holding it though, you know what I mean. Um,

742
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: it's so many of my peers that started before me

743
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: or even after me. Um, you know, they don't have

744
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: a they don't have a firm for hole in music,

745
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 1: they don't do what it seems like for the outside

746
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: looking at it, and sorry to cut you off. It

747
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: seems like when you someone's friends, you someone's friends friend me, yes,

748
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: you friend to the end of one. But if anything happened,

749
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: Nigga's coming down here, just that I'm not seeing. The

750
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: thing is I'm just not a yes sir man. I'm

751
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: not a yes sir. Fall in line, I an't gonna say.

752
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: I ain't yes man. I'll tell yeah, I said, keep

753
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: on the what I'm saying, But I ain't yes sir.

754
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: Bow Nigga hit your head. Now. There's only one now

755
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: about too, and that's the most high. So it don't

756
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: matter when when when they get to a point where

757
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 1: the most highing involved no more, then it's up. That's

758
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: how I feel, you know what I'm saying. So when

759
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: when we're do an ego, that's not the most high

760
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: nor more are dealing blessings. I felt like when Kanye

761
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: got on you know, I'm Muslim, but I felt like

762
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: his him making Jesus walks was a positive thing and

763
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: a blessing, you know what I'm saying, Because at the

764
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: end of the day, where he was but but and

765
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: and and just the fact of trying to engage a

766
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: mass audience into us, into into us, into the consciousness

767
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: of the soul. So, you know, because at the end

768
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: of the day, you just don't know who you touch

769
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: when you do music. So when you have a good intention,

770
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: I feel like God will open doors for you, you

771
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And I still believe that to

772
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: this day, you know what I'm saying. Um, and so yeah, yeah,

773
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: so when it when when they turn, when they get

774
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: ungodly like it's like snakey vibes, I don't I don't know.

775
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: I just want to fall out with their cousin though,

776
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: because if anybody could, anybody, anybody could fall victims of

777
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: snakey vibes. The industry did it? Is it like the industry?

778
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it wasn't over things giving. We

779
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: don't have a problem over mass potatoes. You know what

780
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We had we had you know, you know,

781
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: there's a you know at the end of the day. Um,

782
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: what you know, my thing is like in this platform,

783
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: both Nor and I have worked with the trialal question, right,

784
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: so it would be who either one of us to

785
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: have a conversation about you tipping a negative connotation. I

786
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: just feel like we've got we've had to go through

787
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: things that we've gone through. We going through those things,

788
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: you know, to Tip of the Elder Statesman and hip hop,

789
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 1: and you know, he deserves his prophecy and he deserves

790
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: his regard absolutely. Like um, one of my favorite styles

791
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: of movies documentaries, and one of the things that stood

792
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: out to me was I always heard of as room

793
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: was like you hear about Ray Fawn and ghost Face beefing,

794
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: or might hear about Prodigy and you know having beefing,

795
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 1: like we this is always the room of hearing about

796
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: like Q Tip and fight relationship or like how like

797
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 1: it was kind of like, you know, shaky. But that

798
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: documentary was I think Michael Reportport and Um, that documentary

799
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 1: was my first time because because when me and polished

800
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: the beef, I just think that was just me and Bone.

801
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 1: I just be like, yo, know, I mean the groups

802
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: gets along. And when I see this and I was

803
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: like it was two things. One, I was like, wow,

804
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: I thought the Tropical questions perfect people and like and

805
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: this was like the first time I seen them be human,

806
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: and too it related to my own struggle. I was like, damn,

807
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: I wasn't doing first Yeah, so so so. But you

808
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: as an insider, you've been knew that their relationship was

809
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: a little shaky. Damn for how long you think that

810
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 1: was going on for along? For since our joint tribal

811
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: or what year you say they were going through They

812
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: went through problems after midnight marauders like they all And

813
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: it's so one thing I'm definitely gonna say is like

814
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: you know, and this isn't to blame I don't you

815
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: know what, I'm not gonna say that like that at

816
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: the end of the day, right as as two men

817
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: who who who who were like brothers, never lead never lead,

818
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: um anything or anyone compromised that or blind that bit

819
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: o blind your site to to the bigger picture, you

820
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like in hindsight, it was so unnecessary,

821
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 1: would cause the riff, but but but it was understandable,

822
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like I found out about

823
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: the issue in Atlanta at Fight's house. So I have

824
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: been going to the studio for let's say we started

825
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: recording Beach round the Life February of right, um, so

826
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: by July August of is when I overheard a conversation

827
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: with Fife and True Boys cousin Fudge who he you know,

828
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: god less day he passed away. They were having a

829
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: conversation and basically Fudge it was like, yeah, I don't

830
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: fun with cute to funk that nigga and I initially

831
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: I was like, fuck you talking about you know what

832
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like who funk you talking about? Like who

833
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: you think you is? Who? Like so as so initially

834
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: like and you know I'm outnumbered. I'm in a career.

835
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: I mean, fight for it. Fight I don't you know,

836
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: I fight? But how the funny thing like I said

837
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: that at the fielding, like I ended up coming down there, um,

838
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: just on a whim. He invited me to come to

839
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: Atlanta for the Boer Superfest that year, so we was all,

840
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: you know, we're having a good time, but we really

841
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: was just kind of getting to know each other like that,

842
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: like that, you know what I'm saying. So when home

843
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: he said it, I was like, you know, I automatically

844
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 1: to his fight man fight yeah plug plus yeah yeah

845
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: trueoy was truely true gooy cousins. So he said the

846
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 1: ship and it was already kind of like a funny

847
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: vibe a little bit in the native tongues at that time.

848
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: Because tribe shot to mainstream, critical acclaim and success, they

849
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: was able to be successful. Day Lie you know, shot

850
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: out the gate mainstream and they kind of was maintaining

851
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: that through the next two hour stakes is high in

852
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: the balloon mon State Days saw his dead and and

853
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: and three behind Roser was successful, you know, as we're

854
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: moving on. So they kind of shot out and then

855
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: started blacktowing right try kind of started. They started Elsa Gando,

856
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: then got Timpannita, but he did smash. Then they get

857
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: to can't I kick it? Can I kick it? The smash?

858
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: Then they get the long sum. There was their first single,

859
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: one of the first his video definitely first videos else gone.

860
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 1: I think they might have it is the Pace come

861
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: out or something. Everybody you know, and and and they

862
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 1: were on Buddy right, so they were like, so Jungle

863
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 1: Jungle was the first Jungle Brothers the first out. Jungle

864
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: was the first one. We're gonna want through a psychopleedia.

865
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: My city is on my cities as he's saying that,

866
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: That's why I said, wait a minute, okay, the first

867
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 1: remember remember Africa's and Living Lords the movie, right, they

868
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: got Girl out House shooting guy a thin. Jungle Brothers

869
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: is worldwide. You know what I'm saying, what with the

870
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: cold following Jungle Brothers like like like it's like eight

871
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: eight eight Grisella. Right, but they got radio records though

872
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: to because they got a girl of househ stuff, which

873
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: is not about what I'm saying. Is like when I

874
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: say they Grisella because they got the show aspect I'm

875
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: talking about Nigga stref not not not night karm. Grisella

876
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: trip is the packed house, right, they got niggas coming

877
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: to na ship. Right, So Jungle Brothers the same ship,

878
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So then but they ever

879
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: they are able to appall it in the movies and

880
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: and you know red alerts their uncle, red alerts, my

881
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: gene uncle. You know what I'm saying. So they on

882
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: the raiding, they start at the radio, but with them

883
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: call of joints. Right, So Trivis is the dird And

884
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: also remember like you had dressed up dress popping in

885
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 1: with choices yours right in law, got um got ladies,

886
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's so it's a

887
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: it's a it's a black men Daniel wave. Right. So

888
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: then the thing is, but that it gets it hits

889
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: the ceiling right and then try transitions. They take off

890
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: the dais, they get on some Linda ship. You know

891
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, check the ram check them y'all back

892
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: in the days on the bulletboard, right, saying that on

893
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: the radio. Right then, scenario it's check the rom it's

894
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: we got the jazz. It's directing the fact beef. It's

895
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: scenario Yeah, yeah, you wanted but saying you know what

896
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So so I'm just saying that it comes

897
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: to trying and lay down a chronological order. So when

898
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: you get to that conversation, there's all that baggage looming.

899
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: That's all that energy is looming. Because now I come

900
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 1: into this and I don't know none of this ship.

901
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: I'm a shorty, you know what I'm saying. I know

902
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: about the beef. Obviously that's my family. We the block

903
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: went up with the block was with tip on that one,

904
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: beef not not. Yeah, the blockers in't on that right.

905
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Ship got crazy right right

906
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: right right here? Then yeah, he had to patch of ship.

907
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like that ship was a

908
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: real wait what they're gonna fight it. Yeah, they gotta fight.

909
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 1: Prince Pope from Organiztic Fusion was getting jumped at LA

910
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 1: Music Hall jumped in. They already had the problem, Uh,

911
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: stricky hardcore rap, not a new Jack swing. They had

912
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 1: a conversation with Fight you know what I'm saying. So

913
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 1: so that's the rule of the the problem, God bless

914
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: the dead. Fight said what he said, Tip, ain't the

915
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: run of it. That's gonna be a problem. What did

916
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:54,439
Speaker 1: fight to say? I mean, fight man, fight man, fight Beho,

917
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: nobody over it. We know that you know what I'm saying.

918
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: What he said, He said that when we got the

919
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: jam strictly hardcore rapping Teddy Rowley and took a fence

920
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: to that. I thought Q Tips said that we just

921
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 1: na said what I'm saying. And then that's how cute

922
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: had does nah. So once again, like I said, if

923
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 1: five story is he's seen Rex in the fact and

924
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: v A. They had a conversation about it. They put

925
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: it on ice. Then it was a show fast for

926
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 1: a couple of months. They there's a short Radio City

927
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: Music Hall trials back they've seen Rex in effect again

928
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: whatever whatever, Now what happened was Rex in effect used

929
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: the room Posse d you know what I'm saying. The

930
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 1: Posse Deep Niggas was in the lobby and they got

931
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: into it with prins Poe from Organized Confusion Tip for

932
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: some reason whatever wanted and seeing them jumping Prince Poe

933
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 1: and got into it, and then Posse Deep Niggas like, well,

934
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: you know what, you know what I mean, confusions for

935
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: forty projects right right, one of the same. So it

936
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: was like he's seen the Queen nigga when I was

937
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So yeah, so that's what

938
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: that's what happened. So what happened was the reason I

939
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: ain't had the black eyes because this is what one

940
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: of the Kniggs had a ring on called him in

941
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: the eye. That then seized up the renda and he

942
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: did the video here to do the video and you

943
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: put the patron damn forgot about all this ship, you

944
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So so I'm just saying all

945
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: that to say this is no slander. Just's just just

946
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: just so there's clarity. When a lot had happened, a

947
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: lot of tipisode so so, and a lot continued to happen.

948
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: So by the time I'm having this conversation, they feel

949
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: justified to say that, even though they they when I

950
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: say they it's fudge and fire. They feel justified and

951
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: they start explaining to me, waf is fu tip. You

952
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Nigga did this saying my girl,

953
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: but I who I whoa right took this girl? You

954
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: try to slide that day before the d M. It

955
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,479
Speaker 1: was the toll bus talking about the toll bus cars.

956
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying before the d M, niggas was sliding the

957
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: toll bus. Not mean closes, you know what I mean

958
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: it sai you know you may gotta only pieces. So

959
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: he slid shorty back back you know, uh with the

960
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: current and this is like on a documentary. Oh yeah,

961
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: I leaving back there right, Nigga slide on the tool bus.

962
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: Continue No, I mean so I guess the front man

963
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: to trial. He was skinning right, sliding, sliding right. I

964
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: should have caught down slide, you know, I mean, so

965
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: you know, you know, Homi feel like you know it's

966
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: things like the nigger got along, like what's over in

967
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: your camp and you see seems front your b is

968
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: going crazy, right, so nobody nobody in that position feel

969
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: like a nigga is gonna be able to slide day, bitch.

970
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: So when they bit slide, it's like I mean to

971
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: be slid what he now somebody wants they can beat

972
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: for all this bitch. Nigga holes legacy is over a

973
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: bitch and track pains that was in Norty by Nature video. Nigga, Like,

974
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: you gotta be kidding me, man, knock it off, tell

975
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 1: you some lender ship. Everybody winding was like, knocked that

976
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: ship off. Facts, not man, because it's been when a

977
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: bit she ain't no went around. They ain't no where around.

978
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: I ain't even see that fight funeral god, but the

979
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: dead facts. So that was worth me hearing them. Nigga

980
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,439
Speaker 1: say any of that. Nah, somebody see the thing about

981
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: one thing about me and Kanye. I'm gonna keep it

982
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: a being. No matter what we ever went through, somebody

983
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: lower their wing, and whether it was yeah, yeah, whether

984
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:46,439
Speaker 1: it was me, you ain't suck each other's bitches neither cold.

985
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: You go get Kim kardash In, Bro. I heard you

986
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: just dropping off the hotel and all that I heard

987
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: about the name. You know it's my nigga, and they

988
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: never gonna be nothing. He's like you said, you said

989
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: you're the most loyal nigger. You would Yeah, so they

990
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: ain't gonna never be nothing like. That's my nigga I want.

991
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: I want my nigga is happy. I want my nigga

992
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: is to thrive. You know what I'm saying, Ain't no,

993
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: ain't no. You know what I'm saying on my end,

994
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: I ain't never had to do that. I always before

995
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: before Rap, before Rap and I in high school, all

996
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: that ship before Rap I was doing me. Man, Cause

997
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: let's be clear, because like what you're saying now is

998
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: very heavy metal because it's basically he basically said that

999
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: the reason why I try I broke up, the reason

1000
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: why Tip and five's problem was initially over a y'all

1001
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: and y'all we've never heard. In addition to that, to

1002
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: the to that altercation after that, after the fight, one

1003
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: of was that. And that's why I ain't really fun

1004
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: with the Michael Rapport ship because I said that definitely.

1005
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: I say it again. I mean, Michael Rapport pay me

1006
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: more than when he was gonna supposed to pay anybody

1007
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: because I told him I ain't sunk with that, like

1008
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, nobody should have

1009
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: ever so that there was a problem. You know what

1010
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if niggas got past it, but it never

1011
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: never got past it. And the truth if you never

1012
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: got past it. I told Fife, we I never got

1013
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: the Finnish Atlanta story. So Fifer telling me all this

1014
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: ship like yo, he did boom boom boom boom boom. Right,

1015
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm eighteen. It's not my best interest to tell Fife

1016
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: any advice, right because I don't have a record deal.

1017
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 1: My record deal was cue Tip. Know what I'm saying.

1018
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, I didn't get

1019
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:29,959
Speaker 1: to an advance. You I ain't get nough. I told Fife,

1020
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 1: I said, Yo, if you can't funk with that man,

1021
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: leave that man alone. My grandfather told me, never put

1022
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: crime in another nigger hand. If you don't funk with

1023
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: a nigga, don't funk with him, because if you don't

1024
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: funk with him and he fucked you over, you put

1025
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: criming that man. You know what I mean, Russell, piece

1026
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 1: of slim Turner, You know what I mean? Like, that's

1027
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 1: what it is. You can't do that, you know what

1028
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Fight. At the time, he had the Lost

1029
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 1: Moon shit out he had he had, so it wasn't

1030
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: like he could have yo yo so low. You know

1031
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, go so if you ain't gonna fun

1032
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: with it, if you don't, if you if it's that

1033
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: serious for you, why And I'm not saying to leave

1034
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: his group that's because that's that wasn't what I was

1035
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: trying to say. What I was trying to say is

1036
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: as a man, right, I can't you acting like you

1037
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: can you can be with somebody who you can't really

1038
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: be with. Like sometimes with different niggas, you need to

1039
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: give the nigger space. But if you're trying to hold

1040
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 1: the group ship, you got two choices. Put it to

1041
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: the side. Put it to the side, or this is

1042
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,959
Speaker 1: gonna explode in your face. You know what I'm saying.

1043
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: And I think the ladder wound up happening, even even

1044
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: if the trials of life, you know, like you know,

1045
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: it was a better sweet for me because I didn't

1046
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: have that. I didn't. I didn't. I was looked at

1047
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: like I thought the chemistry I didn't funk, no chemistry

1048
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: up when they added you to because you because I

1049
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: was on so many records that it was perceived like

1050
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: you gotta thinks like it was proceeding. And I understand

1051
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: the perception, right, because when you got something that you love, right,

1052
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: and let's say you're a kid, right and you order

1053
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: a happy meal, right and instead of a hamburgers, a

1054
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: pastrami sandwich with fries in there. Yo, I asked for this.

1055
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: I don't get before what toy isn't it? None of that, Like,

1056
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: that's not what I ordered, So by by by by

1057
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 1: midnight Maradas tried was a happy meal. To the public.

1058
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 1: It was like the burger, the fries, the toy to

1059
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: drink right, right. They knew what they were getting and

1060
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 1: so when they got beatrons of life, it was like

1061
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: a roast beef and cheese with potato chips at McDonald's

1062
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense and a shake I'm other ship on myself.

1063
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 1: It's still good though later, but it when once you

1064
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 1: finally taste it, but you gotta go through the initial

1065
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 1: shot opening the box. Just ain't what I ordered. We

1066
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: just scruntled at first, right, You're gotta be just growing

1067
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: up at first, and then with the backlash of beach

1068
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 1: rounds of life, and that was unfair to me because

1069
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: I didn't know none of this. Ship walking in a

1070
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 1: right You know what I'm saying. I wouldn't even had

1071
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 1: I known. That's why when we did the last Trial album,

1072
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 1: I didn't do nine nine songs. I was like, and

1073
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to do the six that I was on,

1074
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: but it was more like I was just you know,

1075
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: my shot was hot, so I couldn't stop it. You

1076
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Everybody in the group was cool,

1077
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 1: what you're doing that many songs? Man, that's loaded? Man

1078
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 1: at a cigarette before you shootin't my last last? You know?

1079
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 1: They would come on, man, you know the stories, and

1080
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: you know that the story we gotta hear her. Bust

1081
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 1: was officially added to Trial called Members this last album

1082
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: the last Yeah, Man, come on, man, come on man,

1083
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 1: you falling out on me? Man? Look, hey, hey, hey,

1084
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: you're not just talking to everybody. I already know, but

1085
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 1: they know y'all got the guns. Look at the end

1086
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 1: of the day, right, Um, you answer your question first

1087
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: and I'll go back to yours. Was a little longer

1088
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 1: to explain for Busts concern. So last album, Yes, yes,

1089
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: Buster was a member of Tribe UM and obviously so

1090
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: was I UM and you know the the zeal behind

1091
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 1: everything was to celebrate Fife and his life. You know

1092
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I was the bigger picture. You know, obviously,

1093
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 1: I think people need to understand, um, there's going to

1094
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: be behind the scenes things that makes sense. Don't make

1095
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: sense to have to get ironed out so focused on

1096
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: but as the final product guest Busted was a member

1097
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:17,919
Speaker 1: of the last member of Trial for the last album.

1098
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: He definitely was do that, you know what I'm saying.

1099
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 1: He has always been a standout performing when it came

1100
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 1: to Tribe Records. He's always he's always been around. He's

1101
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: been around us as long as I'm you know, as

1102
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: long as I'm you know, as long as I'm known,

1103
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 1: as long as we've been like rapping, like Bust have

1104
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 1: been around Bust that had the path finder coming to

1105
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 1: Linden Busted me, Busted smoke when I was one time

1106
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 1: when I did smoke, it was what I with smokele Bus.

1107
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, it's my manner ship. And

1108
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 1: for being inducted in the trial called question Hall of Fame,

1109
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: how about that? Yeah, that queens like that group miss

1110
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 1: so much to us to drive and I don't think

1111
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 1: I've ever like publicly like other than like when you

1112
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 1: was was was going through yours with with with your family.

1113
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: I don't think i've ever heard somebody publicly discribed but

1114
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: I need distrobe. I'll never described as a group. I'm

1115
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: never distruck because I'll come from truck at you right.

1116
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I had a discrepancy what

1117
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 1: you said at a certain point. I mean, I'm never

1118
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: Jerobi wasn't in the group when I was there. So

1119
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 1: I want to ask my next question. That's my crazy

1120
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 1: don't set now. You cannot have a water here? Take

1121
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 1: my last water? You sure you want those champade maybe later?

1122
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I can't do it celebrate you.

1123
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 1: I can't. We got a champagne Japanese there. You'll wet

1124
01:07:57,880 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 1: for you to take a shot. You know what I'm saying,

1125
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 1: because I did it. Here's your question. And we were

1126
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 1: talking about right now to get back to it. But

1127
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 1: I didn't hear. That's how you, I believe, yeah, or

1128
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 1: you and Tip worked it out one time you went

1129
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 1: to the studio and drink some Hennessey when you went

1130
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:20,759
Speaker 1: to this is the boblo. I work out my problems

1131
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 1: via wire transferring, Okay, my bad, sir. I respect that

1132
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: we talk about before. That was talking before. So defense

1133
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 1: um question was was the other two was? The other

1134
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 1: was the members of the group, okay with me being

1135
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 1: in the group into honestly answer your question, though they weren't.

1136
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 1: At least he didn't like it. So you know, it

1137
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 1: was like it he didn't like, he didn't. It wasn't

1138
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 1: that he didn't like it, And it wasn't that Ali

1139
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 1: didn't get with it. I mean me, Ali have a

1140
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 1: I've had a long relationship just together, just as just

1141
01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 1: outside of tribe. Um. So um. I would never sit

1142
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 1: here and say I'm not here to bad mouth all

1143
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 1: lead you know. Once again, you know you know that's

1144
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 1: a that's older that's my older brother. What I'm saying,

1145
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: so um, he's um, he's always he's you know, I mean, look,

1146
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's um. It's not an easy thing

1147
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 1: to protect your own vested interests and then look out

1148
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 1: for somebody, right, like, let's just be honest, right, Like

1149
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 1: that's almost counterproductive to business, you know, because business is

1150
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 1: not a handout thing. Business is business, right, So it's

1151
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 1: it takes a lot, and I've always tried to take

1152
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 1: that road as far as anything is concerned, because to

1153
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 1: go from a fourth to a third, back to a fourth,

1154
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 1: and in the fourth and a half because your man

1155
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 1: mad about the new fourth, that ain't that's gonna be

1156
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 1: a conversation at being minimum, you know what I'm saying.

1157
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:05,839
Speaker 1: And because when I came into tribe, it was queens,

1158
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: get the money, you know I mean, So when opportunities

1159
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 1: came my way, it was queens, get the money. It

1160
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 1: wasn't queen's playing around. It was queens, get the money.

1161
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I got stressed out because

1162
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 1: it was queens get the money, you know what I mean. Um,

1163
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 1: And so queens get the money is can be threatening. Also,

1164
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 1: it could be a little threatening because it feels like

1165
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,600
Speaker 1: Nick taking over your block. And you're absolutely right, and

1166
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: Nick's taking over your block, you know what I'm saying.

1167
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 1: And and and let somebody stop him. It's not gonna

1168
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 1: stop you know what I mean. And you know, for them,

1169
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 1: they platinum at this point, it's a platinum block. It's

1170
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:54,560
Speaker 1: not it's not a hole in them all. It's not

1171
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's not somebody mom's dirty,

1172
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 1: dirty attic or whatever. And they're banging up nigga, these

1173
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:05,600
Speaker 1: niggas over the world, not the place, the world, you

1174
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And to have some money from

1175
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: Lynda bullet Ward come to do what I did was

1176
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 1: on my behalf. It was amazing, and for them it

1177
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 1: was you know, it's understandable. It's an understandable and understandable tribulation.

1178
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 1: So not not but no, you know, I think eventually

1179
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: got used to the idea, and I think eventually I

1180
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,759
Speaker 1: earned their respect because they saw that it was queens

1181
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: get the money. You know what I'm saying. Um, But

1182
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 1: initially I probably wouldn't like me join the triumph. They

1183
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 1: was one of them, just to be honest, all human emotion.

1184
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: What I was really trying to get to is who

1185
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 1: had the final word for you to be in the group.

1186
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 1: Who put me in the group? Absolutely, Don Cross. I

1187
01:11:53,840 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 1: was right mind Diana like this thing that ship take

1188
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 1: back and break back. So during the pandemic, I've seen

1189
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 1: a video that you put up. It's called lost a million.

1190
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 1: What's that about? I mean, uh, it was therapy for

1191
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 1: me being sick um pandemic. I got diagnosed with U

1192
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 1: S L E. Lucas and type type one diabetes and

1193
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 1: it kind of it kind of rocked me, just to

1194
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 1: be honest, you know, and dropped down like a hundred

1195
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 1: and seven pounds, and you know, doctors basically told me

1196
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 1: if I did take certain for certain measurements that it

1197
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 1: was it was. It was, you know, it's gonna be real, Gilmore,

1198
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 1: I'm come to give more funeral homes. So, um, so

1199
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 1: I did what I had to do. So, I mean

1200
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 1: in the video it's just me. It was just it

1201
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 1: was a record that I used just to start working

1202
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 1: myself back back to back to life. Honestly, you know

1203
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: that that part of the roller coaster wasn't fun. Uh

1204
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Um, but you know it's

1205
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 1: been two years since then, and I'm back and so

1206
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 1: while everyone's catching COVID, do right, I thought I had COVID. Initially,

1207
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: I have been going through so bag. So I had

1208
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 1: shot a video with Conway. Actually, um it's during called

1209
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 1: Complex carn and my son had jumped on my back.

1210
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 1: And before that, I have been traveling around with Kanye

1211
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 1: a lot on airplanes, um, like I mean were taking

1212
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 1: jets everywhere. Like car I was traveling with Kanye was

1213
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 1: doing a Sunday service Slash the JIK album, the promo

1214
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 1: for it. So we was going going everywhere with you know,

1215
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 1: so I was just taking a lot and then abnormal

1216
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:03,600
Speaker 1: amount of flights, uh for two nineteen so that a

1217
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 1: good number. Yeah. So let my son jumped on my

1218
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 1: back at the video shoot and like it's like a

1219
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 1: crook in my neck. And I went to a primary

1220
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 1: care physician. Um, they gave me malox MALOXI car called

1221
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 1: and that made matters worse, um because it was misdiagnosed. Um.

1222
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 1: So by the time we get to March, when the

1223
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 1: pandemic kind of, I went to I took another flight.

1224
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 1: I went to to Kanye had the fashion show in Paris.

1225
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 1: I went with him and and his wife at the time.

1226
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 1: Huh yeah yeah, So I went with him, Kim Corney

1227
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: and the kids. We flew out there. We had a

1228
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 1: good time. But when I got back, I thought, I

1229
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 1: was you know, I was felt really weak. So I

1230
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 1: went actually went to early care. I went to try

1231
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 1: to get a COVID test because I thought because we

1232
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:00,080
Speaker 1: was over the French and France and then then just

1233
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 1: had hit. So I was hitting in Europe first saying,

1234
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 1: so I was like, damn, I ain't got this, so

1235
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 1: they didn't even know how to do the swamp and

1236
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 1: none of that. When I got it was all new.

1237
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 1: So I was like, yo, let me just slide back

1238
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: to New York on the first thing smoking and then

1239
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 1: the quarantine happened. So I'm thinking, I, well, this ship

1240
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 1: is you know, I think it might be a month

1241
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 1: or something for ship to be closed. She'd go on

1242
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 1: and on and on and on. One thing led to another.

1243
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 1: Um I got very you know, my weight started dropping significantly,

1244
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 1: and you know, uh, it just got to the point

1245
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 1: where I ended up, you know, me and car he

1246
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 1: was having a conversation about. I was like, yeah, I'm

1247
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 1: fucked up. Dog. I'm like, y'all need I need some help?

1248
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:43,839
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was in the crib basically,

1249
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 1: um So, Kim and family a doctor in New York.

1250
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 1: Um So, I had to getting the spinal tap and everything.

1251
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 1: They discovered that sli lupus, which I was like, I

1252
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 1: didn't understand. It was like nobody my family got it.

1253
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 1: The stereotype is that it's a it's an African American female. Sit,

1254
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 1: your genetic got the same thing and tea balls right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1255
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 1: so I didn't you know, so um so um. And

1256
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 1: what happened then was that because I dropped so much

1257
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 1: weight and I was like they initially thought it had

1258
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 1: some ship called stiff Man syndrome. So because I literally

1259
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 1: was like walking like I was like nineties, ship was crazy.

1260
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:32,679
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Um, so yeah, just yeah,

1261
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 1: and I don't still easy, but that ship was that

1262
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 1: it got to the point where I was just like

1263
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just thinking this's gonna happen. What I'm

1264
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:45,599
Speaker 1: saying like like writing well out and all that ship,

1265
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Um, but um uh what

1266
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 1: wound up happening. I had to take steroids to get

1267
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:56,640
Speaker 1: my sister to jump back up. So I wind up

1268
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: taking steroids, but then taking steroids I was taking apprentice

1269
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 1: on and then doing that. The middle GRAMD dosage is

1270
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 1: the equivalent to like glucose, So don't tell me that

1271
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 1: created the diabetes. Yeah, So basically I had to. I

1272
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: had to. Then I had Then I got to an

1273
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:16,560
Speaker 1: inch knowledge this and it was like, yo, if you

1274
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 1: don't take insulin, you're gonna die. Your pengreas is done.

1275
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And you know what I mean.

1276
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 1: I told money. I was like, yo, I got a son, Yo,

1277
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:28,680
Speaker 1: just to shoot me fucking you know what I'm saying.

1278
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 1: Because I was really apprehensive about taking inst because everybody

1279
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 1: see taking insulin was like funked up. They wasn't like

1280
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 1: they wasn't thriving no more. It was just like it

1281
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 1: was like you know it, it was like it looked

1282
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 1: every from my finch rock like one. But I was

1283
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 1: wrong because it actually it actually helped me tremendously, but

1284
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 1: from my lack of education about it, I just kind

1285
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 1: of panicked. I was like, now I want to do that,

1286
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 1: and it was like, Yo, if you don't do it,

1287
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 1: you're gonna die. Your pancreas is done. Like you you

1288
01:17:57,560 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 1: only thing you could do was jump started with insulin,

1289
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:01,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I was like, yo,

1290
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: I thought of at all I did was thinking about

1291
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 1: my son. I was just like, yo, just do whatever

1292
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:06,600
Speaker 1: you gotta do that, you know what I'm saying, to

1293
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 1: give it to me now, why while we're waiting for it,

1294
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 1: and she was already sucked up, you know what I'm saying.

1295
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:14,640
Speaker 1: So did that, and then um, you know, I just

1296
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 1: started changing everything because I was still eating the same

1297
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 1: way with the medicine, and that was only leading to

1298
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:28,719
Speaker 1: the grave. Honestly, Like you know, I was still eating,

1299
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:32,560
Speaker 1: thinking like I could have whatever the fuck, and you know,

1300
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 1: you know what, it was just a lot of ship.

1301
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:38,759
Speaker 1: And so with that, I begin me with more doctors

1302
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 1: and nurses and you know, shout out to north Well

1303
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:45,839
Speaker 1: grouping my my um my, uh, my new basically primary

1304
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 1: physician was my looping specialist, Dr Neino. She she she

1305
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 1: definitely was a can't do it for me to say,

1306
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 1: my but for my life to be saved, I gotta

1307
01:18:55,400 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 1: make some money for that. Man. I didn't know none

1308
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 1: of that asking that question. Um, lost a million, you

1309
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So lost a million was basically

1310
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 1: my way of just telling the story, you know, like

1311
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 1: telling the telling everything that happened, because I feel like

1312
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 1: my life I was losing. I was literally watching myself

1313
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 1: lose lose millions because that's the value that I have

1314
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:23,560
Speaker 1: for myself. So it wasn't even let's say it's a

1315
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 1: it's a metaphor. Um, it's a metaphor so to speak,

1316
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 1: just the same like I'm literally watching my life and

1317
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:34,680
Speaker 1: I gotta either I saved me onna lose everything. One hand,

1318
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 1: I want to pop the champagne with you, but another hand,

1319
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 1: it's just like, I'm not sure we got some more

1320
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 1: ship to talk about. You know, you also have to

1321
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 1: work with Case Slate two before he passed away. Actually

1322
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:53,679
Speaker 1: hunt deep. Yeah, Man, Case Slave is definitely, um gonna

1323
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,560
Speaker 1: be missed. Man, it's so crazy dating COVID. It's just

1324
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 1: the thing about the pandemic. But I don't think people

1325
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,679
Speaker 1: ever fully understand is the amount of death that we've

1326
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 1: had to deal with in real time because of social media.

1327
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:10,680
Speaker 1: You know, I like I watched so like even when

1328
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:12,560
Speaker 1: I was going through what I was going through, I

1329
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 1: was like, I was a mobilized. I was on the

1330
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 1: couch and I'm just looking at face looking at all

1331
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 1: my social media platform. I remember I was, man, I

1332
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 1: was on drugs and I saw Brion dancing they I

1333
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 1: thought I was in the Twilights. I was like, wait,

1334
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 1: what the fucking we were doing? He was definitely the

1335
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 1: hype man. I didn't I couldn't process because you know,

1336
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 1: like it was hard to process that number on the

1337
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 1: INDI shut down from what we know. It's a new

1338
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 1: industry now, like basically we we now worked on the phone.

1339
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 1: The offices in New York as far as Gregor Companies

1340
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,560
Speaker 1: still not Universe is still not open, you know what

1341
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So we've had to figure out how to

1342
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 1: adapt to the pandemic, you know. So in that adaptation,

1343
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 1: it's like, yo, you're seeing you know, even even though

1344
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:16,640
Speaker 1: your murders of Verses was an adaptation. Thought I was like,

1345
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 1: is this not not no disrespected? But it was like

1346
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 1: almost like it was like, I guess that's what we're

1347
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 1: doing the code, you know what I'm saying, right nice

1348
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:31,639
Speaker 1: you know, like Godship was like yo, I remember man

1349
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 1: first first d nice Um joint. He was like, yo,

1350
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 1: cors what if I seeing like a more later? I

1351
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 1: think over it was on that D night on the

1352
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 1: show Nobody Out. It was likely sh it Obama, D

1353
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 1: nice Ship sit at the tunnel sunning, you know what

1354
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 1: I mean. And like I said, I'm going through all

1355
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 1: this on drugs. So it was like I'll see d

1356
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 1: Knights in the shows that my nigga, you know, I mean, Derek,

1357
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,680
Speaker 1: my nigger from from damn near. Since you called me nice,

1358
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 1: I like how you like how you called him Derek.

1359
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 1: That's that's outside. I just look at all rappers DJs

1360
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 1: who've been through what we've been through. And I never

1361
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 1: called him in the first name. I always I mean,

1362
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:23,680
Speaker 1: he liked to be called Derek. Yeah. Yeah, it's nice

1363
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 1: to men record. Yeah, your studios, Holy Mode movie. So

1364
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 1: what's the next for you? Cars? Reality TV? No, let's

1365
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 1: not list my god, my little it's a bag. I've

1366
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 1: seen the interview where you were saying it's a bag.

1367
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 1: You know what they're back. I just passed on doing it,

1368
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 1: asked me to do it. Oh yeah, yeah, I did drinks.

1369
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,600
Speaker 1: But what was it like? You know, um, you know,

1370
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 1: coming from where you're coming from in order to and

1371
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:09,640
Speaker 1: then going into reality TV just be say for a

1372
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 1: person that maybe you want to tell them how to

1373
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 1: do it. I don't know, you know, I mean I

1374
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 1: feel like it's uh, you know, listen, um, Tiffany said,

1375
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 1: like I said, because like I said, I know Mona

1376
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 1: since she worked Violator after started, you know what I mean.

1377
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:31,720
Speaker 1: So you know, you know, to see what she's been

1378
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 1: able to do with the lane that John your has,

1379
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 1: you know, that's somebody that like literally the first trip

1380
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 1: I took a trial was to Miami. How can I

1381
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 1: be down and Mona was working with us. She was

1382
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 1: all point person. I mean, yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1383
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 1: So like for me, you know, my hat is off

1384
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 1: to Mona, you know what I'm saying, Like I was

1385
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 1: suppoke to Mona. I actually you know, all full transparency.

1386
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 1: You know, the thought had crossed my mind to maybe

1387
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 1: do another season, um because of all the ship I

1388
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 1: got going on, and I'm just in a different space.

1389
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 1: But I just think that for me at this point,

1390
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 1: like I've done so much that it wouldn't make sense

1391
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 1: to go back. But you know, just in full because

1392
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 1: I'm literally about to go. They're doing like uh an

1393
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 1: episode that's like you know something like what they're doing

1394
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 1: now type, And they asked me to do what I

1395
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 1: was just like right now they ain't in the fight,

1396
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 1: and they did. He did you know, when you're doing

1397
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 1: it change you can't tell Drakes can't fight. Yeah, so

1398
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 1: it's not no fun for me. It's not no fun

1399
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 1: for me. The first union fight with you that's went

1400
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 1: to together the balls, Okay, what's going on? Okay, okay, okay,

1401
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 1: you know so you know that was that was then

1402
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 1: and this it's cool. How about you used to with

1403
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 1: your lady. Oh really, no, I didn't know any lady

1404
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 1: and my new lady. You know my new lady. Oh damn,

1405
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 1: you're throwing it up with my new lady. You grew

1406
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 1: up with my new lady. Really, he called you poppy. Okay,

1407
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 1: I'll be mad about that. Sound right, But I don't know.

1408
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 1: I know he said ship. Make the look yeah, like

1409
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 1: I'm being honest with you. Say because you know her,

1410
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 1: her brother your fa y'all girl to her name is Melody. Okay, okay,

1411
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 1: you don't melody on the same floor, not even just

1412
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 1: the same same you know. You know you lady, that's

1413
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 1: what's up. Hell yeah, you look like you. I'll see

1414
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 1: the way you look here. Now, let's mom and she

1415
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 1: take care of me like you look. I see you.

1416
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 1: He smells okay, because I know what I deserved. You

1417
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I know what I deserve. I know,

1418
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 1: I know with the word warrants, But do a nasty

1419
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:07,680
Speaker 1: breakup or something like that with Listen. At the end

1420
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 1: of the day, I got my son. My son is

1421
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 1: my gift in his life, and regardless of whatever I

1422
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:17,640
Speaker 1: go through, that's the final products catering and me and

1423
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:21,360
Speaker 1: kating actually got a video coming out and shot Jamal,

1424
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 1: And so my albums is incredible. Who shot the mall?

1425
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 1: Who shot Jamal? Who shot Jamal? Yeah, So it's just

1426
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 1: it's basically our our dialogue, um, our dialogue between Falls

1427
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 1: and son about dealing with murder in the black community. UM.

1428
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:43,639
Speaker 1: I think a lot of times, you know, too many

1429
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:49,679
Speaker 1: times there's there's there's there's bodies, and you know, there's

1430
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 1: there's bodies in the streets that nobody knows what happened

1431
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 1: to him, and the police don't really care. And then

1432
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 1: you know, unfortunately families do the police work if there's

1433
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 1: any police him to be done as far as like

1434
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 1: getting just that closure, you know. So we're having that

1435
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 1: conversation in this in this record, and it's important and

1436
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it and me and Kayden and

1437
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 1: I also doing a group album called One On too

1438
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 1: that having an executive producer. Yeah. So he tends just

1439
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 1: just got study on the Summer Jams screen and all that.

1440
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 1: So that's out of you know, I'm like, I'm not

1441
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:28,560
Speaker 1: gonna criticize other than not keep it playing myself. So

1442
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,600
Speaker 1: I don't do the thing with the girls and the

1443
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 1: dirt and all that on those platforms. I don't do

1444
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 1: none of that, you know, I just you know, I'll

1445
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 1: keep it where I'll keep it. But so, um, so

1446
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 1: what do you feel like um about like parents who

1447
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 1: like it seems like they put in their children on

1448
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 1: front Street. Is that something that that your son wants

1449
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 1: to do. Is it's something like he came to you

1450
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 1: and said, pop, oh, this is something that you wanted

1451
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 1: to do, like it's practice, and then it started to

1452
01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,679
Speaker 1: keep put himself on the summer Jams screen. I ain't

1453
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:04,600
Speaker 1: telling get stirty. I got to v so you do it,

1454
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I mean I think

1455
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:13,680
Speaker 1: the whole thing is our generation. Now we're in the

1456
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 1: position to offer nepotism right without I don't. I don't

1457
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 1: need to get a check off o kat. And I'm straight.

1458
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I have a resume and

1459
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:27,680
Speaker 1: and uh and uh in a contact list that provides

1460
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I'm able to provide for my son.

1461
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 1: He don't take me shopping. I'm I remember pomp apart

1462
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 1: from because you if I just remember one time, I

1463
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 1: think I said the source of magazine and I've been

1464
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 1: like hearing Busino over here over talking about YO think

1465
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 1: they're thinking I'm making money of my son. I think

1466
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 1: I'm trying to expose my son. And I remember just

1467
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,680
Speaker 1: hearing that, like and I'm just I wonder what this

1468
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 1: mean because perception. But what you're saying about nepotism, that's

1469
01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 1: true generational wealth, right. See. The the the thing is

1470
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:05,679
Speaker 1: there are people who actually see something in their kid

1471
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 1: and be like, yeah, just the ticket and Williams King

1472
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 1: Richard like that. That movie is so ill just due

1473
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 1: to the fact that what what you know, it got it.

1474
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 1: It takes humility also to see in your child with

1475
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 1: you what you can't literally do anymore. Right, So if

1476
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:33,560
Speaker 1: you came you, you was Richen, you was Richard, you

1477
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 1: know what I mean. The whole thing is like you

1478
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 1: had you had two choices. You could you could be

1479
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 1: You could you could withhold the knowledge and hope they

1480
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 1: figure it out for theirselves. Or you could come up

1481
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 1: with a plan that's gonna actually be able to be

1482
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 1: executable through your do your through your seeds, you know

1483
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:52,559
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And him and his wife, it wasn't

1484
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 1: just him and he was him and his wife, and

1485
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:55,680
Speaker 1: then you know they're geting shipped from the neighborhood. And

1486
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 1: then guess what, then three or four years they that

1487
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 1: wasn't the same neighbor no more. Their neighborhood changed. Not

1488
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 1: to say, right, their neighborhood changed. Do because of richest ambition,

1489
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 1: you know, And and a lot of times fathers don't

1490
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:15,360
Speaker 1: get the acknowledgement of having to be the quarterback of

1491
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 1: your family, like having to really be able to see

1492
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 1: the end zone, I know, and take and take the

1493
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 1: heckling of motherfucker's worried about what you're doing in the

1494
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 1: process of getting from first down the first down. What

1495
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying that the players in the end zone, that's

1496
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:31,640
Speaker 1: where the six points is at and whatever else you're

1497
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 1: gonna get, you know what I mean, So you gotta

1498
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 1: get dead. I like that. I like that a lot.

1499
01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:44,679
Speaker 1: Go back real quick to when you're starting to run

1500
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:48,719
Speaker 1: right and trying starting the bubble, because it was huge

1501
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 1: even from the onset. How was the atmosphere for you,

1502
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 1: like just seeing that and seeing that's actually family right there, right?

1503
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 1: I mean, well, the number one thing it did was

1504
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 1: give hold because I'm at that time when trial comes

1505
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 1: out when in Queen's right, So the streets is a mess.

1506
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 1: You know trial when trial came out of the central

1507
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:19,000
Speaker 1: part five got arrested, right when not too long before that,

1508
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 1: Edward Burns that got murdered in Queen's document. You know right,

1509
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:28,840
Speaker 1: I got it. I'm looking to the crib what I'm saying.

1510
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 1: You know, So the streets that we lived on, man,

1511
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:37,240
Speaker 1: you know, niggas are selling crack of twelve bro, Like

1512
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:39,680
Speaker 1: I know, I got a little I got man that

1513
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 1: grew up. I'm watching nigga smoke cigarettes and diapers like

1514
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 1: ship was out of control, you know, in in in retrospect,

1515
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But at that time, it's

1516
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 1: what was going on. There wasn't no nobody questioned none

1517
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:53,960
Speaker 1: of that ship like that. Nobody was I mean, you

1518
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 1: know Al Sharlton question, did you know what I'm saying

1519
01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 1: when he was rocking the joint? You know what I mean?

1520
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 1: Right right? You know what I mean. So, but we

1521
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 1: did like also like that, like Tribe gave niggas hol

1522
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 1: l L game, niggas hop singing DMC in the hood,

1523
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:22,559
Speaker 1: and the Lincoln gave niggas hold. You know what I'm saying, nigga,

1524
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 1: You know me, you know I was able to battle

1525
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 1: run when I was the fourteen You know what I'm saying. Yeah,

1526
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:30,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Come on, costs to go

1527
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,439
Speaker 1: to far? I ain't going nowhere? Went too far? How

1528
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:38,200
Speaker 1: you think I got tried? You battle one DMC Battle

1529
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:46,400
Speaker 1: run run Gold. Yeah yeah, he had he had a

1530
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 1: to toss you windbreaking track to TI right like how

1531
01:32:52,080 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 1: you trying to make it sound more fresh? You know? No,

1532
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 1: that's something you're serious. So you battle run where Buster

1533
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:12,479
Speaker 1: told tip battle run? I got in tried Buster told

1534
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:15,960
Speaker 1: Q Buster was there and said if you know Buster

1535
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 1: was there? He told no, not if I did. Okay

1536
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 1: at fourteen fifteen? Yeah on one on two that's the

1537
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:27,200
Speaker 1: name of my label, went on to record, because that's

1538
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 1: how that's why I got the money. Queens get the money.

1539
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 1: You ain't leaving the block without getting this work. It

1540
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:36,360
Speaker 1: didn't run have the hat on nah? This before, this

1541
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 1: is before they had this. Ain't no derby run TV man.

1542
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 1: I want some TV man is running the street nigger

1543
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 1: and queens. He had a haircut when they did then

1544
01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 1: with the kid an with the key, there's ninety two.

1545
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 1: Not y'all, let's getting front cleaners on one our two. Okay,

1546
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:09,719
Speaker 1: me me he spake ge busted ros rumble still scan

1547
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 1: rumble still haven't heard that in even a while? Right,

1548
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:16,080
Speaker 1: I did he have on adid this? I don't remember

1549
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:19,200
Speaker 1: a fool. Okay, you say you say you beat one,

1550
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:23,680
Speaker 1: I a fool. I'm saying I'm not. I'm not had one,

1551
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 1: so I'm not saying it wasn't like if you you

1552
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 1: need to pop bottle champagne. If this is still please man,

1553
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 1: this is what they say. He probably probably heard say

1554
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:46,639
Speaker 1: that I heard my skills say that that he wanted

1555
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:49,280
Speaker 1: an autograph and run, but no one never came on

1556
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 1: you know what started to that? So we're like responded

1557
01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 1: that no one didn't want to hear something. Listen, run

1558
01:34:56,479 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 1: and what I'm go? He can continue to go? Did

1559
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 1: me playing great? At one point, I was supposed to

1560
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 1: work with Diggie Singles on his debut album One My

1561
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 1: Nigga Niggas No like, I'm not, but I never disrespected.

1562
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:14,719
Speaker 1: But I'm like, yeah, I'm saying, I A I can't listen.

1563
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, right and and finnished to run right

1564
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:21,759
Speaker 1: it's the nigga did me a favor by even saying,

1565
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:26,720
Speaker 1: all right, shorty, what you got Yeah, nigga. That's what

1566
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 1: I got. That's what I got from Queen's names when

1567
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 1: I got from the boulevard nigga. Next stop trying, next,

1568
01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:40,760
Speaker 1: next stop of the chase for two facts pop one

1569
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:50,759
Speaker 1: of that. God damn it, I said if CONS wasn't drinking,

1570
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:52,719
Speaker 1: I wasn't drinking. But you're making me want to drink.

1571
01:35:53,439 --> 01:35:59,960
Speaker 1: Let's keep going. I'm gonna drink. I'm gonna get your

1572
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 1: cut hold on them. Mr Leek tell Biggs, I'm I'm

1573
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:08,679
Speaker 1: recording because he's calling me right now. Because we celebrated you, brother,

1574
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:15,479
Speaker 1: we celebrate salute solut So you gonna take a sip,

1575
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 1: don't count. I get the story on my but look

1576
01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:27,760
Speaker 1: not what okay? Yeah, I can't lie to you. Bro.

1577
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:30,200
Speaker 1: Wait wait so you battle run? What happens in that

1578
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 1: moment again, like even in the midst of it, like

1579
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:36,799
Speaker 1: what what was it supposed to take place? Was actually

1580
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:39,599
Speaker 1: Fife and Mr Cheeks are supposed to battle that night

1581
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:45,639
Speaker 1: and Mr Cheeks yeah he was, he was Coach Cheeks.

1582
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 1: So that's that was supposed to what was supposed to

1583
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:55,639
Speaker 1: happen because because they because Coach Cheeks was Queens. Yeah,

1584
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:57,719
Speaker 1: but he was the he was the nigger on the tapes,

1585
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:00,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And he wanted he wanted

1586
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 1: in on the game. So to get in on the game,

1587
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:04,799
Speaker 1: he was like, yo, let me let you mean Fife,

1588
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 1: because Fife, this is right after the low end, you

1589
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So Fife was like, so, so

1590
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:12,840
Speaker 1: that battle was either gonna be Fife was gonna eat

1591
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:14,360
Speaker 1: his food or he was gonna eat his food, and

1592
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:17,240
Speaker 1: they was gonna have to then say, Coach Cheeks need

1593
01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:19,560
Speaker 1: to be on. But eventually got on, you know what

1594
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Um, and about that night, like I said,

1595
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 1: he got he but but they didn't battle. So for

1596
01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:30,479
Speaker 1: for some reason, the chiefs sing chief didn't come. But

1597
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:33,280
Speaker 1: spank G can spank G and Coach Cheeks was partners,

1598
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:37,120
Speaker 1: they said. The ship called organized. I like to organize

1599
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 1: the two burgers and fry with my lord boy crew,

1600
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:41,160
Speaker 1: because that's the way they would do. My man stretches.

1601
01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:43,880
Speaker 1: Now when the fact, well, Mama said, and so I

1602
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:48,519
Speaker 1: did catch reck uh the real deal like holy Field

1603
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 1: making the emurgency phone calls my night man is burst

1604
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:53,719
Speaker 1: to Freddie, don't scheme on my dream. Just get your machete.

1605
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 1: D that nigga was nice back in the day. That

1606
01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 1: nigga was nice. It was him, he was nice. And

1607
01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:03,240
Speaker 1: Red Man they both did tape that uh mana bello

1608
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 1: um and and that's how Redman got on red and

1609
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:09,680
Speaker 1: got Red Man got popular. He was already kind of

1610
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:12,280
Speaker 1: with he was working with. But the ship with him

1611
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:15,840
Speaker 1: and Biz the mona below tape is what made Red Man.

1612
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:20,000
Speaker 1: You know what, I wouldn't put them on, but the

1613
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:23,120
Speaker 1: no no, no, but didn't really he was spitting for

1614
01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:27,360
Speaker 1: was DJ and that for right. So but then he

1615
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 1: got on the money that Red Man slacks no HAPs,

1616
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:31,639
Speaker 1: I got a knapsacker raph to give you more power

1617
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:34,040
Speaker 1: to snap. I get the powerful grade gold castle. Now

1618
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 1: I got the power to smash you and thrash you.

1619
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:40,559
Speaker 1: That nigga was that nigga back in the days, right,

1620
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:43,000
Speaker 1: he let a clip off on that ship. So so

1621
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:45,639
Speaker 1: my my point is saying, either one of those rhymes

1622
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:49,920
Speaker 1: was that. So the kind of the stage was set

1623
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:54,360
Speaker 1: for the ship, but Cheeks, I don't think, for some reason,

1624
01:38:54,479 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 1: got there. But then Run came and pulled up out

1625
01:38:57,160 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 1: of nowhere, you know what I'm saying. And when Run came,

1626
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:02,519
Speaker 1: we all was out there. And then we started and

1627
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:04,639
Speaker 1: then Ron went that, I went the wrong went again.

1628
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:06,760
Speaker 1: I went again, and then that's how it kind of

1629
01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:11,880
Speaker 1: turned to smack DVD, not smack DVD like Queen's get

1630
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 1: the money for doing that though. Yeah, that's why, that's

1631
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:19,599
Speaker 1: why I never try to come at it like yo oh, run,

1632
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:22,720
Speaker 1: I told Run. It wasn't that I run gave me

1633
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:26,560
Speaker 1: the crame run run, run past the tours to me.

1634
01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:29,639
Speaker 1: But it was in a battle. It was in a battle, mole,

1635
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:31,519
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He didn't give it to me,

1636
01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:34,439
Speaker 1: Like right, he didn't give it to me, Like yeah,

1637
01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you on down with the king with me,

1638
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 1: you and Pete Rock. Now, I was like, nigger, if

1639
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 1: you don't, if you don't tear me up. You got

1640
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:44,360
Speaker 1: told by Run and you might quit. But you know

1641
01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because it ain't no really no coming

1642
01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 1: back from that ship. Neither though holds your battles. I

1643
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:54,200
Speaker 1: am battle with me. You in fifty the shades of

1644
01:39:54,280 --> 01:40:09,280
Speaker 1: hip hop wanted to see. I wait, that was Wartner's

1645
01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:12,400
Speaker 1: was was, wasn't it? He was one of the lines

1646
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:17,640
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, yeah, you know it's crazy living that

1647
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:19,719
Speaker 1: moment I did not know how special for that moment

1648
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:22,720
Speaker 1: was one I never never would have realized that that

1649
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 1: would have made it to the century, Like look at

1650
01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:28,799
Speaker 1: all the hold funky all right, and that she's saying

1651
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 1: that's my right, right right, and I kifre was doing here, yes,

1652
01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:38,559
Speaker 1: yes that if the people that don't know you could

1653
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:41,640
Speaker 1: go right now on YouTube one where somewhere it's a

1654
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:47,000
Speaker 1: it's a famous freestyle this before like the punt freestyles

1655
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:48,960
Speaker 1: and on listen. This was during the n R E

1656
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:59,759
Speaker 1: album It's me uh consequence fifty. We all went twice

1657
01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 1: and everyone and I'm telling, let me tell you something

1658
01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:05,120
Speaker 1: because it was like it wasn't like it wasn't like

1659
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 1: we were battling like like like I was just trying

1660
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:09,800
Speaker 1: to say, but we were but not battling each other.

1661
01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:15,240
Speaker 1: We had nigger battling who was the number one producers

1662
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:18,320
Speaker 1: at the time, and everyone what's what they beat playing

1663
01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 1: in the background. But I've never been able to like

1664
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 1: to be kid do like that type of moment like that.

1665
01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:29,439
Speaker 1: It was, yeah, and it was so spontaneous because if

1666
01:41:29,479 --> 01:41:31,360
Speaker 1: you can't just blame it on the error, I gotta

1667
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 1: I gotta say I don't think that I gotta take

1668
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:35,720
Speaker 1: is gonna that comes back? Okay, I agree with you.

1669
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 1: There's definitely a moment in time because because at the time,

1670
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 1: because of the position that awful artists was in, you know,

1671
01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:45,840
Speaker 1: you know no nor no and and I feel like

1672
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 1: that moment get reading the excex self freestyle, that that

1673
01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:58,040
Speaker 1: that arguably a point to be taking. You're gonna say, right,

1674
01:41:58,080 --> 01:42:01,080
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, really that was the sper Okay,

1675
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 1: that's what that really wants to bite because that's because

1676
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 1: because of the factor, yeah, it made it doesn't made

1677
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:10,640
Speaker 1: it to the future from that it was on a

1678
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:16,599
Speaker 1: VHS tape. It's like so it got uploaded, which once again,

1679
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:18,479
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, double back to when we

1680
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:21,160
Speaker 1: first started from the beginning of the conversation, there wasn't

1681
01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:24,080
Speaker 1: even YouTube when we did that, you know what I'm saying,

1682
01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:27,560
Speaker 1: So that but we was vi it's still vibra. It

1683
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:32,960
Speaker 1: was viral that back then. It was when when viral

1684
01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:40,240
Speaker 1: was viral, like it was holding it every time somebody

1685
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:43,479
Speaker 1: posted that had the platform, it goes because it's like

1686
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 1: it's a it's a new thing every time. And like

1687
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I think it was the position of you

1688
01:42:49,120 --> 01:42:51,960
Speaker 1: was in there at the time. Fifty was just got

1689
01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:54,599
Speaker 1: sign the track Masses how to Rob didn't even come

1690
01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 1: out yet. I was coming out of tribes in between

1691
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:01,519
Speaker 1: deals and punched and was trying to get a deal,

1692
01:43:01,640 --> 01:43:03,360
Speaker 1: so he was hungry. So it was like it was

1693
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 1: like the chemistry just all may say like ififty would

1694
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 1: have been if Anthy would have had out the gen

1695
01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:12,720
Speaker 1: on the mixtape, it wouldn't have been that same situation.

1696
01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:15,320
Speaker 1: If you would have already had our super Dog, it

1697
01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:17,519
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been that situation, you know what I'm saying.

1698
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:19,000
Speaker 1: It was just like, why were you guys in the

1699
01:43:19,040 --> 01:43:21,679
Speaker 1: same room? Was it violator the common No? No track

1700
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:27,760
Speaker 1: masters a common denominic because they and I was there

1701
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:30,599
Speaker 1: for kicking Precession. He's also working with the track master

1702
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:35,479
Speaker 1: they Ever, it was all a phony situation. Yeah, also

1703
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:37,640
Speaker 1: did the beat that he did for me that night.

1704
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:43,680
Speaker 1: He gave it to me. But that's a that's that's

1705
01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 1: a legendary, legendary moment, and and I look for that.

1706
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:49,919
Speaker 1: I look for that like in other other people genres

1707
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:53,560
Speaker 1: of music. And I don't think that that chemistry. I

1708
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:56,320
Speaker 1: don't think that it was a special time in hip hop.

1709
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:59,720
Speaker 1: Man what was your favorite what's your favorite what's your

1710
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:04,240
Speaker 1: favorite period in the hip hop? Excuse me, um man,

1711
01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:07,639
Speaker 1: I got moments more so than just like time period.

1712
01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:14,519
Speaker 1: I mean, look at um one of my favorite moments

1713
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:16,720
Speaker 1: that probably should be my favorite moment. It's a bad

1714
01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:20,560
Speaker 1: boy era, just just because not but just because you

1715
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:22,479
Speaker 1: gotta Honestly, I was in tried, but I was looking

1716
01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:32,960
Speaker 1: at that ship like, man, a good record. I wasn't.

1717
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 1: I was in army fatigues right like we're going ahead,

1718
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:43,960
Speaker 1: going to the town every weekend. I couldn't. It was like, listen,

1719
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:53,080
Speaker 1: one thing, one thing you know TV. One thing is

1720
01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:55,519
Speaker 1: for sure, like Puff knew how to make a record

1721
01:44:55,640 --> 01:45:01,120
Speaker 1: that made women react, hits not just hits that may

1722
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:04,680
Speaker 1: women react. You know a lot of a lot of

1723
01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:09,880
Speaker 1: what's going on now is not people not really understanding. Also,

1724
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 1: like if it's your ship is overtly masculine, you know

1725
01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:16,639
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that doesn't include women. You know, if

1726
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:22,599
Speaker 1: we've got one guy who defines that, who nas eskeootball.

1727
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:31,160
Speaker 1: But Nast still back in first that first album, nas

1728
01:45:31,200 --> 01:45:33,599
Speaker 1: has has some passive bitches. No, Nas has some busy

1729
01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:36,719
Speaker 1: because he has the buzz. But you know, what I'm saying,

1730
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:40,200
Speaker 1: but there's still there's because he's different what you guys

1731
01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:43,360
Speaker 1: are saying. There's different things. But didn't right, But then look,

1732
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:47,479
Speaker 1: let's keep it real. Even with nas right, he has

1733
01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:50,800
Speaker 1: almatic Right, he got the bitches, but then said, if

1734
01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:56,960
Speaker 1: I really want to go getting longer the tunnel? Did

1735
01:45:57,000 --> 01:46:00,800
Speaker 1: he wanted if you really want to maybe, Yeah, he wanted.

1736
01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 1: He wanted to to know little bit, so that's why

1737
01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:07,240
Speaker 1: he upgraded and stuck up. Yeah, but I've gotta understand,

1738
01:46:07,280 --> 01:46:11,120
Speaker 1: like is one of the best chick record makers of

1739
01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:15,120
Speaker 1: all time. His first record has been the Apple Bomb Bomb.

1740
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 1: I still don't know what that is. What do you mean?

1741
01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:23,560
Speaker 1: What is benea a bomb? Um? It's a person but

1742
01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:26,840
Speaker 1: I can't say her name. It's actually you know what

1743
01:46:26,840 --> 01:46:29,680
Speaker 1: it was? The first thing I thought it was a

1744
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:36,559
Speaker 1: stroke move whoa, that's that's his beIN as he coind

1745
01:46:36,600 --> 01:46:41,439
Speaker 1: of drink who it is? But I'm like, yeah, you

1746
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:42,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean? They can know who that is

1747
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:44,559
Speaker 1: so little check it when we spoke about a little

1748
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:47,360
Speaker 1: bit earlier right now folk plus and saying hey man,

1749
01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:50,760
Speaker 1: because they ald I love you guys, movement, love what

1750
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:53,519
Speaker 1: you guys are doing. But he doesn't feel like they're

1751
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:58,120
Speaker 1: making music that fits the radio right, at least fits

1752
01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:01,400
Speaker 1: his platform. He said, And why you guys kid, And

1753
01:47:01,479 --> 01:47:04,160
Speaker 1: they're saying initially, yo, you you should care because we

1754
01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:06,519
Speaker 1: this ship, we're selling out like how we spoke earlier.

1755
01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:09,759
Speaker 1: We're selling out arenas, we're making money. We got to jewelry,

1756
01:47:09,840 --> 01:47:13,439
Speaker 1: we got to calls, we got the crowd. Why wouldn't

1757
01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:17,080
Speaker 1: you support us? Where do you on this? On this

1758
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:20,360
Speaker 1: side of the story? Where do you on the spectrum

1759
01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 1: of this? Yeah? Did my my side of the story.

1760
01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:27,560
Speaker 1: So where you go as a songwriter, you always have

1761
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:31,519
Speaker 1: to have a chorus to get on the radio? What

1762
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:37,439
Speaker 1: what what? What? Like that? What? What? What? What? What? What?

1763
01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:44,519
Speaker 1: Tammy lewis what what? What? Um? What's another one? Um?

1764
01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:49,760
Speaker 1: I mean you have to have a course to get

1765
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:53,759
Speaker 1: on the radio. That's that's bigger than even with flex

1766
01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 1: is alluding to. The thing is like, and I'm saying

1767
01:47:57,040 --> 01:48:00,800
Speaker 1: this as a songwriter like that has to be there

1768
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:03,439
Speaker 1: has to be. A radio is based on audience, and

1769
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:08,880
Speaker 1: audience has to sing along without singing along, there is

1770
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:13,840
Speaker 1: no that that radio doesn't fulfill its purpose from a

1771
01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:16,840
Speaker 1: bit and you noticed as a DJ, so there's there,

1772
01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:22,080
Speaker 1: there's the beat, the chorus, and then the raps far

1773
01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:25,920
Speaker 1: as records that are hit records blowing up. Eric B

1774
01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:28,880
Speaker 1: for President was not just I came in the door.

1775
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:32,840
Speaker 1: I said it before. It was doom, the doom, the doom.

1776
01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:41,920
Speaker 1: I came in the door. I said that before. I

1777
01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:44,000
Speaker 1: never let the might a advertize me no more. But

1778
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 1: he's fighting me by He's like me the mom. I

1779
01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:48,880
Speaker 1: can't hold it back. I'm looking for the line taking

1780
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:52,559
Speaker 1: off my coat, claim my throw the wrong, kicking until

1781
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:59,280
Speaker 1: I hit my lass. I know the words the ship

1782
01:48:59,560 --> 01:49:03,720
Speaker 1: this me. You know what I'm saying. So the thing is,

1783
01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:11,960
Speaker 1: it's about resignation and and and inclusion. Right, I'm saying

1784
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:14,439
Speaker 1: this as a song writer. I'm not specifically saying this

1785
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:19,479
Speaker 1: about that even that argument. I'm saying, the components of

1786
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:24,800
Speaker 1: a record that works at radio rap is based on

1787
01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:28,599
Speaker 1: it's based on engagement. Because some will argue, right now,

1788
01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 1: CARDI be gotta hit record and it's only the chorus

1789
01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:34,920
Speaker 1: that plays once or me me twice, Cardi beef with

1790
01:49:35,160 --> 01:49:37,960
Speaker 1: Little Dirk and Kanye right now, remember what Flex said though,

1791
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:40,360
Speaker 1: He said that what dictates what goes on the radio

1792
01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:44,479
Speaker 1: is Spotify and YouTube. He just amplifies that. He says

1793
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:46,920
Speaker 1: that I think he said. But but but in a

1794
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:50,400
Speaker 1: traditional sense as far as even if whether you're on

1795
01:49:50,439 --> 01:49:55,760
Speaker 1: the radio or not, right, a record like bad from

1796
01:49:55,800 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 1: TV No Hook consider the hit record. Yeah, but y'all,

1797
01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:14,720
Speaker 1: raps are choruses, a wit comps regardlessly. You're gonna ship rain, snow,

1798
01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:20,800
Speaker 1: sweet of hell, keep your face and on my hand

1799
01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:22,559
Speaker 1: and the like. It's part of the plan. I had

1800
01:50:22,600 --> 01:50:24,479
Speaker 1: to talk like I did well, how I see it,

1801
01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:28,280
Speaker 1: Doug down all the pecauseles soon to be up. Yo,

1802
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:32,280
Speaker 1: I know the fucking wraps, bro. Remember that was an

1803
01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:38,439
Speaker 1: era before hip hop was mainstream on radio. But there's

1804
01:50:38,479 --> 01:50:42,600
Speaker 1: a market that's New York. There's a proponent to to

1805
01:50:43,120 --> 01:50:48,439
Speaker 1: resignation that that just happens, right, Like there's a there's

1806
01:50:48,479 --> 01:50:51,559
Speaker 1: a there's a component to resignation that just happens. There's

1807
01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:53,920
Speaker 1: a tone of voice, there's a beat, there's a there's

1808
01:50:54,040 --> 01:50:59,000
Speaker 1: just things that make people in three listens start working

1809
01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:01,639
Speaker 1: with it. You know what I'm helps the program basically

1810
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:05,880
Speaker 1: right right right right, so so so the your opinion

1811
01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 1: you haven't heard of recollect that from grizelta Um, what

1812
01:51:11,120 --> 01:51:14,880
Speaker 1: I think my personal opinion, like at the end of

1813
01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:19,439
Speaker 1: the day, right, if that wasn't even the case, there's

1814
01:51:19,479 --> 01:51:21,200
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. Grizella has been on like a

1815
01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:24,680
Speaker 1: three year run right, like in the Spotlight, right, and

1816
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:31,439
Speaker 1: they've managed to like transition and transform into like the

1817
01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:35,720
Speaker 1: biggest ship independent not independent. You're playing them in South

1818
01:51:35,720 --> 01:51:38,040
Speaker 1: Africa when I went to South Africa. So the thing

1819
01:51:38,240 --> 01:51:43,040
Speaker 1: is like, but if they're settling for more for Gazella, yes, absolutely,

1820
01:51:43,080 --> 01:51:45,920
Speaker 1: they made they made the three stars, they three they

1821
01:51:46,080 --> 01:51:49,320
Speaker 1: three hip hop household names. So do I feel like

1822
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:53,000
Speaker 1: in fairness and then and loved as some of my brothers,

1823
01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:56,800
Speaker 1: can they deliver the biggest, the biggest records of their career? Now? Yeah,

1824
01:51:56,840 --> 01:51:59,519
Speaker 1: you got every redstarting you up. You know what I'm saying.

1825
01:51:59,560 --> 01:52:01,320
Speaker 1: What you want? You might have to You might have

1826
01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:04,320
Speaker 1: to go see Timberland for that. You might have to

1827
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:07,160
Speaker 1: go see it for for that. You might you might

1828
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:10,320
Speaker 1: see this and say that though, but say yo, listen

1829
01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:12,360
Speaker 1: because a lot of people think I think they're just

1830
01:52:12,439 --> 01:52:16,040
Speaker 1: counterproductive to kind of get to the gatekeeper ship, right,

1831
01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:18,960
Speaker 1: I hold. I think when people think that you say

1832
01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:23,920
Speaker 1: radio record or you say, um, a club record, and

1833
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:27,160
Speaker 1: people automatically think commercial you can make a record that

1834
01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:29,880
Speaker 1: is radio really or club really without it being commercial,

1835
01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:32,360
Speaker 1: did it? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1836
01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:35,240
Speaker 1: But I mean I ain't Corey to always to go

1837
01:52:35,320 --> 01:52:37,800
Speaker 1: into the studio with that idea. This is my club record,

1838
01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:41,320
Speaker 1: this is my radio record. No no, no, but it

1839
01:52:41,360 --> 01:52:43,400
Speaker 1: should it should it should flow. As long as it's flow,

1840
01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:46,639
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be game. But if you have the wrong

1841
01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:49,160
Speaker 1: with being mindful but what you want to land you

1842
01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:51,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like, there's nothing wrong with that

1843
01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:53,760
Speaker 1: because I think Jay zhr get to give it to

1844
01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:56,719
Speaker 1: me joint. It was like, oh yeah, I'm pointing two

1845
01:52:56,800 --> 01:52:59,439
Speaker 1: two type of rap on this was like I'm out

1846
01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:02,439
Speaker 1: with this is the smash because as a song right too,

1847
01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:05,439
Speaker 1: when I hear something, I can either go either way.

1848
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:07,439
Speaker 1: When you speak to you, you say, you know what

1849
01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:09,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go mess with I'm gonna go mess with

1850
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:11,240
Speaker 1: the club. I'm gonna go with the club on this,

1851
01:53:11,479 --> 01:53:12,960
Speaker 1: or I canna be like, you know what, I'm gonna

1852
01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:14,240
Speaker 1: go falk with the hood on it. But you didn't

1853
01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:16,360
Speaker 1: go intentionally in that spot before you had to be,

1854
01:53:16,479 --> 01:53:22,040
Speaker 1: before you had anything go today's mind. So me working

1855
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:24,720
Speaker 1: with a Kanye, right, because he a producer. First, I

1856
01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:27,599
Speaker 1: might have a Yeah, I'm gonna go this way with it, Like, Yo,

1857
01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:30,360
Speaker 1: that ain't big enough. So then you gotta you gotta

1858
01:53:30,439 --> 01:53:32,479
Speaker 1: rip that piece of paper up and start from the beginning.

1859
01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:35,320
Speaker 1: Because it's like when you got intellectual property, you can

1860
01:53:35,439 --> 01:53:37,080
Speaker 1: have all you gotta have a one level ranch or

1861
01:53:37,080 --> 01:53:39,640
Speaker 1: you gotta have a high rose, right, it's all them,

1862
01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:43,599
Speaker 1: which it's all them with you project onto the music,

1863
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:46,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So the thing is to

1864
01:53:46,720 --> 01:53:49,400
Speaker 1: get to a higher plateau, you need a higher level

1865
01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:51,439
Speaker 1: of thinking. So you so sometimes you gotta be your

1866
01:53:51,479 --> 01:53:53,960
Speaker 1: own worst critic, and like maybe I hit them. I

1867
01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:57,120
Speaker 1: hit this nerve already as far as my basis concerned.

1868
01:53:57,320 --> 01:53:59,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like you brought up like

1869
01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:03,960
Speaker 1: Lost and I didn't shoot the same level of video

1870
01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:06,519
Speaker 1: I did for Blood Thing. For that, I knew that

1871
01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:10,960
Speaker 1: Blood Sing had shot. What I'm saying, Loss a minute

1872
01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:14,000
Speaker 1: for me was my personal and my creative So I'm

1873
01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:17,240
Speaker 1: not I'm not gonna service that to radio. I'm not

1874
01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:22,800
Speaker 1: gonna say Flex is not women because he didn't record

1875
01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:25,559
Speaker 1: on the street too. Yeah, now that's what Flex, it's

1876
01:54:25,560 --> 01:54:29,479
Speaker 1: your poor you know what I'm saying because that um,

1877
01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:37,640
Speaker 1: because I'm just doing that. Yeah yeah, ship Hannani seven

1878
01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:40,200
Speaker 1: just had me come through the New Music men while

1879
01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:42,360
Speaker 1: I played it for all the DJ played the record.

1880
01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:44,360
Speaker 1: I played the record for all the DJ so it

1881
01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:52,040
Speaker 1: will be added, um I'm talking about Yeah Yeah, I'm

1882
01:54:52,600 --> 01:55:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm looking like Smoke brother Win a different space with um.

1883
01:55:01,680 --> 01:55:05,400
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, Yeah, like with

1884
01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:08,920
Speaker 1: the Bloodstain't joint, that's bloos ain't gonna be my biggest

1885
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:13,680
Speaker 1: record west. Yeah, you know what I mean. And I'm

1886
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:16,400
Speaker 1: you know, so from there now you know, I got

1887
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:23,280
Speaker 1: the remix coming remis crazy, crazy crazy. I'm waiting on

1888
01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:26,320
Speaker 1: like two more features that that my start announcing it.

1889
01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:28,400
Speaker 1: But I got that, I got that. I got the

1890
01:55:28,440 --> 01:55:31,200
Speaker 1: remix of the Summer for this ship hands down, you

1891
01:55:31,280 --> 01:55:39,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So independent that he got me

1892
01:55:40,040 --> 01:55:47,480
Speaker 1: on that one. That's like, understand sometimes just give up

1893
01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:51,440
Speaker 1: there Like such a thing is like it's like can

1894
01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:53,520
Speaker 1: you put out a record, put out a record or

1895
01:55:53,520 --> 01:55:55,720
Speaker 1: an album and called it like a full circle moment?

1896
01:55:55,840 --> 01:55:57,200
Speaker 1: Is that how it could be? Could it ever be

1897
01:55:57,240 --> 01:55:59,840
Speaker 1: distributed at So we're trying to see the Grammy family.

1898
01:56:00,240 --> 01:56:01,920
Speaker 1: It's gonna be on this trying to say they got

1899
01:56:01,960 --> 01:56:04,520
Speaker 1: a whole all of good music and all the trial

1900
01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:08,120
Speaker 1: on this. I'm feeling like your question though, right you

1901
01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:10,480
Speaker 1: was in you was in the car with you, right, yeah,

1902
01:56:10,840 --> 01:56:12,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna cass seeing you like the whole winter you

1903
01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:17,560
Speaker 1: just like phone up. Yes, yea. And they got a

1904
01:56:17,600 --> 01:56:21,960
Speaker 1: lot of money, right world, He's spend no money to

1905
01:56:22,240 --> 01:56:24,880
Speaker 1: clear every we were. I never see the pup a

1906
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:28,360
Speaker 1: car now, I don't have cart. You got car. You

1907
01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:32,760
Speaker 1: don't use cars, use cars. You don't even you know,

1908
01:56:33,200 --> 01:56:35,440
Speaker 1: I wasn't when the bill came up. Wasn't sitting around

1909
01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:37,280
Speaker 1: having that awkward moment, you know when you both look

1910
01:56:37,320 --> 01:56:40,320
Speaker 1: at the bill. You know what I just you walked out.

1911
01:56:40,880 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 1: I just grabbed Yes, well, I mean different were different space. Yeah,

1912
01:56:49,400 --> 01:56:51,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But it's it's it's great.

1913
01:56:51,680 --> 01:56:54,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, man, you know we week. He just

1914
01:56:54,760 --> 01:56:57,520
Speaker 1: got a lot of money. Goddamnit. Man, he's shine it

1915
01:56:57,640 --> 01:56:58,960
Speaker 1: right there. Let me see. Let me see what kind

1916
01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:00,360
Speaker 1: of watch that I know it's there is then to

1917
01:57:00,560 --> 01:57:04,560
Speaker 1: let me see my face stafted up? A ja come

1918
01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:10,760
Speaker 1: hear you here? Shine you got the pripe. What I'm

1919
01:57:10,760 --> 01:57:14,280
Speaker 1: saying it's a grown man time piece. You know what

1920
01:57:14,320 --> 01:57:18,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you know, you know, uh yeah, my

1921
01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:24,000
Speaker 1: brother loved me, I said, you know what. It ain't independent.

1922
01:57:24,160 --> 01:57:27,320
Speaker 1: It's on one of two records and it's distributed by

1923
01:57:27,400 --> 01:57:34,320
Speaker 1: My brother loved me. We talked about Jack because your

1924
01:57:34,360 --> 01:57:37,080
Speaker 1: brother loved me. Because we were talking about Q Tip too.

1925
01:57:37,520 --> 01:57:43,160
Speaker 1: My cousin loved me, love you a little bit. Your

1926
01:57:43,200 --> 01:57:45,120
Speaker 1: brother leve you a lie and brother loved me. Life

1927
01:57:45,160 --> 01:57:48,760
Speaker 1: with brothers, Jesus. I love that though, because you know,

1928
01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:52,000
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie to you. When I looked, because

1929
01:57:52,040 --> 01:57:54,760
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, I went into your music continuously,

1930
01:57:55,040 --> 01:57:56,560
Speaker 1: I knew. I knew that. But when I looked at

1931
01:57:56,600 --> 01:58:00,000
Speaker 1: the interviews like when, like I said, I supposed to

1932
01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:02,360
Speaker 1: tell about you, like when you when you're mad. I

1933
01:58:02,520 --> 01:58:05,000
Speaker 1: believe you when you're mad, but when you when you

1934
01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:08,520
Speaker 1: when you have me to I also believe. I'm looking

1935
01:58:08,560 --> 01:58:12,960
Speaker 1: at No Calcar. You know, No Calcar also believe you, boy,

1936
01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:14,640
Speaker 1: But not that's who I am. I don't really do

1937
01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:17,280
Speaker 1: gray every Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I don't.

1938
01:58:17,560 --> 01:58:20,720
Speaker 1: I don't halfway funk with niggas. I don't do sucking ship.

1939
01:58:20,800 --> 01:58:22,440
Speaker 1: I ain't on that. You know what I'm saying. If

1940
01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:24,080
Speaker 1: I don't funk with a nigger nigga, know, I don't

1941
01:58:24,560 --> 01:58:26,760
Speaker 1: if I wouldn't looking nigger. Know. I jumped out of

1942
01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:29,120
Speaker 1: jump out of moving van on Punk for you. You

1943
01:58:29,120 --> 01:58:31,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, that's that's who I am.

1944
01:58:31,760 --> 01:58:33,560
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And I embraced that part

1945
01:58:33,640 --> 01:58:35,960
Speaker 1: of who I am. Just say on Punk. Yeah, I

1946
01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:37,840
Speaker 1: jumped out the van. I had to tend for in

1947
01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:42,240
Speaker 1: the sleeper from Kanye on the TV show, on the

1948
01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:46,960
Speaker 1: TV show Pong Show during Jesus walks, Yeah, that make

1949
01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:59,360
Speaker 1: van Holy moly, Yeah, trying to get it always why

1950
01:58:59,360 --> 01:59:01,600
Speaker 1: I would us and tell my brother loved me like

1951
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:07,400
Speaker 1: he love me like I'm his brother. Noises that Champaigne

1952
01:59:07,440 --> 01:59:11,760
Speaker 1: right there. So you should have done that. So so

1953
01:59:11,960 --> 01:59:14,440
Speaker 1: damn you didn't see the Supreme Team documentary. I didn't

1954
01:59:14,440 --> 01:59:17,560
Speaker 1: see the Supreme Team documentary, but I definitely um it

1955
01:59:17,680 --> 01:59:19,520
Speaker 1: was well man definitely got to check that ship out

1956
01:59:20,960 --> 01:59:22,840
Speaker 1: on the roll with that with that, you know, because

1957
01:59:22,880 --> 01:59:31,440
Speaker 1: he's like a FILMMA documentary. I want to um, um,

1958
01:59:31,880 --> 01:59:35,760
Speaker 1: you know, me and him like a great text message relationship.

1959
01:59:36,000 --> 01:59:38,080
Speaker 1: But um, I texted him, and then when he text

1960
01:59:38,120 --> 01:59:40,040
Speaker 1: me back, I was filming so I couldn't. But this

1961
01:59:40,160 --> 01:59:42,240
Speaker 1: was the one of the one first times I'm gonna

1962
01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:45,000
Speaker 1: go on and say, yo, listen, bro, great fucking work.

1963
01:59:45,080 --> 01:59:49,760
Speaker 1: Because we're from the whole other side. I didn't even

1964
01:59:49,840 --> 01:59:53,200
Speaker 1: consider us west side Queens. I never heard that, but yeah,

1965
01:59:53,240 --> 01:59:58,400
Speaker 1: I just love, use love Queen's Bridge that it woke

1966
01:59:58,440 --> 02:00:00,680
Speaker 1: us through that West Side quay. So for what I'm

1967
02:00:00,680 --> 02:00:02,000
Speaker 1: saying is that if we know what was going on

1968
02:00:02,040 --> 02:00:04,560
Speaker 1: in Jamaica, we know, but for him to know when

1969
02:00:04,640 --> 02:00:06,800
Speaker 1: he knew, like the blocks in the areas. One of

1970
02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:08,360
Speaker 1: just why I knew because Uncle Wise is from a

1971
02:00:08,400 --> 02:00:11,320
Speaker 1: Hunter seven and got Brower and on forty projects and

1972
02:00:11,400 --> 02:00:13,600
Speaker 1: my other cousins from Basis. That's the only reason why

1973
02:00:13,680 --> 02:00:15,360
Speaker 1: I knew that. But I was so much of a kid,

1974
02:00:16,640 --> 02:00:19,320
Speaker 1: like like when when you hear me Satan paying for

1975
02:00:19,720 --> 02:00:22,280
Speaker 1: you're the leaka poppinga. Really he was working with the Britis.

1976
02:00:22,680 --> 02:00:26,080
Speaker 1: That's because I remember when Griselda, the real Griselda, the

1977
02:00:26,120 --> 02:00:29,800
Speaker 1: actually the Queeze. That's when Queens really got blew up

1978
02:00:29,880 --> 02:00:34,920
Speaker 1: because you know, cat Happy and preum and was rein

1979
02:00:35,000 --> 02:00:37,880
Speaker 1: up in Jackson Heights, so we had the Gold Town.

1980
02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:41,600
Speaker 1: So I remember my one like my one time I

1981
02:00:41,680 --> 02:00:45,320
Speaker 1: ever seen Alphole. He came to forty Projects. I believe

1982
02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:47,680
Speaker 1: he was popping to Willie's. And that's what a lot

1983
02:00:47,720 --> 02:00:51,040
Speaker 1: of people think. I'm saying that paid it for talking

1984
02:00:51,040 --> 02:00:54,200
Speaker 1: about Well, I'm talking about I'm describing what I'm supposed

1985
02:00:54,200 --> 02:00:58,200
Speaker 1: to describe in the movie. But I'm just you know

1986
02:00:58,200 --> 02:01:01,080
Speaker 1: what I'm to ask when it shows a tree of

1987
02:01:01,200 --> 02:01:11,480
Speaker 1: people in the crew, No baby is gonna do with uncle? Yeah, yeah,

1988
02:01:13,880 --> 02:01:16,800
Speaker 1: like you know you know t A. It's a bunch

1989
02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:20,280
Speaker 1: of VJ we were. It's a bunch of live asked

1990
02:01:20,320 --> 02:01:23,320
Speaker 1: niggas from princes from that side. The niggas lives niggas,

1991
02:01:23,960 --> 02:01:26,000
Speaker 1: you know them niggas is turning ship up. You gotta

1992
02:01:26,040 --> 02:01:29,960
Speaker 1: watch the definitely No, no, no, I've never met Prince.

1993
02:01:30,440 --> 02:01:33,960
Speaker 1: I've met Preme. You ever met Prince. The thing is

1994
02:01:34,000 --> 02:01:36,640
Speaker 1: like when I was a shorty because my mom my aunt,

1995
02:01:36,920 --> 02:01:40,240
Speaker 1: that's your my own is a Landis Atlantis said, you know,

1996
02:01:41,040 --> 02:01:44,280
Speaker 1: nigga like she got a baby by shorty black brother

1997
02:01:45,080 --> 02:01:49,600
Speaker 1: and she used to she you know, uh fat cat

1998
02:01:49,680 --> 02:01:51,760
Speaker 1: on the niggas, You know what I mean? On my family.

1999
02:01:52,680 --> 02:01:55,839
Speaker 1: I know, the niggas like for a kid, that niggas

2000
02:01:56,320 --> 02:01:59,880
Speaker 1: was the illest niggas that you like, the energy with them,

2001
02:02:00,560 --> 02:02:03,960
Speaker 1: you know, which is always you know, they were taking

2002
02:02:04,000 --> 02:02:05,520
Speaker 1: Kid Vince. There was getting a lot of money. There

2003
02:02:05,560 --> 02:02:07,200
Speaker 1: was getting a lot of money and they was getting

2004
02:02:07,200 --> 02:02:09,400
Speaker 1: a lot of money on the streets. So which you

2005
02:02:09,480 --> 02:02:14,000
Speaker 1: know when that comes, you know, you know, nig said

2006
02:02:14,080 --> 02:02:17,000
Speaker 1: the raps wrap life is the damn most dangerous life

2007
02:02:17,720 --> 02:02:20,960
Speaker 1: at that time, that was rap life. The block life

2008
02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:23,360
Speaker 1: was the illest ship. You know what I'm saying, Like

2009
02:02:23,720 --> 02:02:27,200
Speaker 1: Nigga's you know, like you know, Nigga's something you want

2010
02:02:27,240 --> 02:02:30,240
Speaker 1: to see. There's a part where l L's actually in

2011
02:02:30,360 --> 02:02:33,200
Speaker 1: the club that is crazy. That footage that probably that

2012
02:02:33,400 --> 02:02:37,160
Speaker 1: probably I don't know he went yet, but he said,

2013
02:02:37,520 --> 02:02:44,440
Speaker 1: but you stand, yeah he's involved, just like he wasn't

2014
02:02:44,520 --> 02:02:48,120
Speaker 1: happen yet. He was a pop and you seem you

2015
02:02:48,240 --> 02:02:50,600
Speaker 1: see a prince who see them all those things, know

2016
02:02:50,600 --> 02:02:52,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He was like yo, he was he

2017
02:02:53,120 --> 02:02:59,440
Speaker 1: had yeah, because it's always that you know, that that

2018
02:02:59,480 --> 02:03:02,640
Speaker 1: famous I think it's in mysteries. I think it's in

2019
02:03:02,880 --> 02:03:04,280
Speaker 1: the mysteries. The Cute Club one of them one of

2020
02:03:04,320 --> 02:03:05,960
Speaker 1: them when they all on stage and they all dressed

2021
02:03:06,000 --> 02:03:08,800
Speaker 1: up and all that ship that yeah that's it. Yeah yeah,

2022
02:03:08,960 --> 02:03:12,440
Speaker 1: that ship didn't even know he was there, all knew

2023
02:03:12,480 --> 02:03:14,120
Speaker 1: he was dead. He didn't know it was film. No,

2024
02:03:14,200 --> 02:03:16,640
Speaker 1: he said he didn't know that specifically. Was that because

2025
02:03:16,680 --> 02:03:20,800
Speaker 1: he said that footage because someone he was that party? Yeah?

2026
02:03:20,880 --> 02:03:27,480
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah that ship was like, oh ship, I couldn't.

2027
02:03:27,800 --> 02:03:31,840
Speaker 1: I watched the whole ship all together. Serious, I got

2028
02:03:31,880 --> 02:03:33,840
Speaker 1: one else telling people I was doing. I was like, yo, yo, man,

2029
02:03:34,480 --> 02:03:38,920
Speaker 1: do some before ship right now. And this episode was

2030
02:03:39,000 --> 02:03:41,960
Speaker 1: like a complete documentary. It was completely different. I liked

2031
02:03:42,000 --> 02:03:43,840
Speaker 1: it the facts. At first, I was like, damn he

2032
02:03:43,960 --> 02:03:46,800
Speaker 1: he He'll do a whole ship and not involved Earth. Yeah.

2033
02:03:46,840 --> 02:03:49,280
Speaker 1: That was very last And did he had a shanty?

2034
02:03:49,840 --> 02:03:53,400
Speaker 1: I was like like, like, like, I believe Dug Bankers

2035
02:03:53,400 --> 02:03:56,000
Speaker 1: involved because the Dug Banker, you know all guy and

2036
02:03:56,160 --> 02:03:59,800
Speaker 1: Peter from Master Pil did a great job, bro great

2037
02:04:00,360 --> 02:04:02,800
Speaker 1: like even down to the backstory of how the area

2038
02:04:02,880 --> 02:04:07,960
Speaker 1: got built up by the contractor that their grandfather Griffin. Yeah,

2039
02:04:08,080 --> 02:04:14,400
Speaker 1: the people that the Griffin, yeah grandfather, Like I don't

2040
02:04:14,440 --> 02:04:16,040
Speaker 1: think the history would have been known like that at

2041
02:04:16,080 --> 02:04:23,160
Speaker 1: least that the black and then the riots happened and

2042
02:04:23,200 --> 02:04:28,160
Speaker 1: they cut off the streets with the trucks. Is though. Yeah, definitely,

2043
02:04:28,480 --> 02:04:30,160
Speaker 1: Queen's got a lot of history. We got a lot

2044
02:04:30,200 --> 02:04:32,440
Speaker 1: of history, got a lot of history, man, Queen's get

2045
02:04:32,480 --> 02:04:34,800
Speaker 1: the money man. So so what were you doing in

2046
02:04:34,880 --> 02:04:46,520
Speaker 1: Passes Downtown? Yeah, he just got that. I was actually

2047
02:04:46,760 --> 02:04:50,640
Speaker 1: I was actually in a mentorship program at Passions at

2048
02:04:50,640 --> 02:04:53,800
Speaker 1: the strip club. There's a mentorship programs a strip club.

2049
02:04:53,840 --> 02:05:04,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, passors was a mentorship. I was mentorship. He

2050
02:05:04,640 --> 02:05:09,680
Speaker 1: was ordered with mentorship or single moms no, um, because

2051
02:05:09,680 --> 02:05:14,440
Speaker 1: I was all her mentorships and um we were. It

2052
02:05:14,560 --> 02:05:17,240
Speaker 1: was basically like there was like an hour class that

2053
02:05:17,840 --> 02:05:24,760
Speaker 1: just consisted of baby oil. There was an our class that, um,

2054
02:05:25,080 --> 02:05:30,160
Speaker 1: you know, we would show you know, like basically richmantic,

2055
02:05:30,400 --> 02:05:34,400
Speaker 1: how much to actually do a transaction for like the

2056
02:05:34,520 --> 02:05:36,400
Speaker 1: medio ship. Are you saying he wasn't painting for a

2057
02:05:36,440 --> 02:05:39,280
Speaker 1: little world? I'm saying, I hold the mentorship. I don't

2058
02:05:39,280 --> 02:05:45,320
Speaker 1: even me. What's your program that my son doesn't know about?

2059
02:05:46,720 --> 02:05:48,600
Speaker 1: Did penship? Don't on it? But did this type of

2060
02:05:48,640 --> 02:05:54,640
Speaker 1: mentor ship? EPC? Did this type of mentor ship? Okay?

2061
02:05:54,720 --> 02:05:57,240
Speaker 1: I don't know that. My head was, uh, you know,

2062
02:05:57,480 --> 02:06:00,040
Speaker 1: if you know, you know, we need to cool it

2063
02:06:00,160 --> 02:06:05,040
Speaker 1: for a lot of stuff. Um. So basically, do we

2064
02:06:05,160 --> 02:06:09,800
Speaker 1: know other people who entered this mentorship? Um? No, I

2065
02:06:09,880 --> 02:06:12,680
Speaker 1: mean you know I actually had that. I had a situation.

2066
02:06:14,360 --> 02:06:19,000
Speaker 1: Um you know that happened on on school grounds out there.

2067
02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:23,840
Speaker 1: Uh you know, you know sometimes you know, people want

2068
02:06:23,880 --> 02:06:26,680
Speaker 1: to change their homes, their homeroom teacher. It's okay though,

2069
02:06:27,240 --> 02:06:32,800
Speaker 1: you know, man, thiss got weird you a whole room school.

2070
02:06:33,360 --> 02:06:35,800
Speaker 1: Like I said that away the mentorship program, I'm believing

2071
02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:41,200
Speaker 1: at that for single moms, who mama, I'm just saying

2072
02:06:41,960 --> 02:06:44,920
Speaker 1: with baby who got the baby? Because there was baby? Oh,

2073
02:06:45,240 --> 02:06:48,240
Speaker 1: I don't know about a baby because there's a mean

2074
02:06:48,440 --> 02:06:51,720
Speaker 1: right now And that says how that comes if you

2075
02:06:51,800 --> 02:06:55,920
Speaker 1: need to know what's you know what the funny thing

2076
02:06:56,040 --> 02:06:58,440
Speaker 1: is like? Man, you like that's like t you like

2077
02:06:58,560 --> 02:07:02,000
Speaker 1: ten four right now? That's like who to how you

2078
02:07:02,120 --> 02:07:09,760
Speaker 1: till forward? This one? I don't know, you know, nigga Yo,

2079
02:07:10,120 --> 02:07:14,400
Speaker 1: Nigga asked that nigga about passions. Okay, we're your points.

2080
02:07:19,960 --> 02:07:23,120
Speaker 1: The one I ready. I was gonna say I'm ready

2081
02:07:23,160 --> 02:07:31,200
Speaker 1: for anything, but I definitely like world. So you you

2082
02:07:31,400 --> 02:07:36,200
Speaker 1: like Wyoming? You've been to Wyoming? Yeah, pleasant, I like

2083
02:07:36,400 --> 02:07:39,160
Speaker 1: I liked it as it was you around was you

2084
02:07:39,240 --> 02:07:42,600
Speaker 1: did when he had the hat on the Maga hat,

2085
02:07:43,040 --> 02:07:48,120
Speaker 1: there's only one that Yeah, no one now came after that.

2086
02:07:48,280 --> 02:07:51,600
Speaker 1: I came after the TMZ. I was. I was actually

2087
02:07:51,720 --> 02:07:58,160
Speaker 1: running the Tribes Merchandise um Um initiative that they have

2088
02:07:58,400 --> 02:08:01,880
Speaker 1: with Sony so had had. I was coming off of

2089
02:08:02,200 --> 02:08:05,720
Speaker 1: just doing a collaboration with Billionaire boy Club. We did that.

2090
02:08:06,240 --> 02:08:08,840
Speaker 1: We did a U trial Buar City jacket for the

2091
02:08:08,880 --> 02:08:12,200
Speaker 1: Space program um record. We did it with Frell with

2092
02:08:12,480 --> 02:08:14,480
Speaker 1: you know, his own BBCs. We did Dad, We did

2093
02:08:14,520 --> 02:08:17,520
Speaker 1: it for Locker Drop. He did a drop with fans

2094
02:08:18,280 --> 02:08:21,120
Speaker 1: and then I dropped the phone. When I seen the

2095
02:08:21,160 --> 02:08:24,280
Speaker 1: TMZ ship, I was like, or when he said that

2096
02:08:24,360 --> 02:08:26,760
Speaker 1: the slavery is a choice, Yeah, the whole ship. It

2097
02:08:26,920 --> 02:08:28,600
Speaker 1: was just like, you know, the Twitter ship was going

2098
02:08:28,680 --> 02:08:31,680
Speaker 1: off crazy and I was just like, what the fuck okay?

2099
02:08:32,360 --> 02:08:35,280
Speaker 1: And I just happened to call I just actually uh

2100
02:08:36,680 --> 02:08:41,080
Speaker 1: hockey down Jay by accident, and he picked up. I

2101
02:08:41,200 --> 02:08:45,440
Speaker 1: was like, oh, oh ship, what else? Son And you know,

2102
02:08:45,800 --> 02:08:48,480
Speaker 1: we had a conversation and he and he actually was like, Yo,

2103
02:08:48,920 --> 02:08:50,560
Speaker 1: why don't you just come? I hadn't seen him in

2104
02:08:50,600 --> 02:08:54,920
Speaker 1: a while. Um. Um, but you know we was tapping,

2105
02:08:55,120 --> 02:08:59,520
Speaker 1: tapping in here's here's here's something to go viral. Um.

2106
02:09:00,040 --> 02:09:02,800
Speaker 1: What many people don't know is that Kanye at one

2107
02:09:02,840 --> 02:09:05,240
Speaker 1: point was supposed to join trial for the last album

2108
02:09:10,080 --> 02:09:14,160
Speaker 1: Wild Fight still was alive. No Fifer passed away. Because

2109
02:09:14,240 --> 02:09:21,160
Speaker 1: Fight passed, He's gonna join trial. Um, and that's why

2110
02:09:21,240 --> 02:09:25,440
Speaker 1: he's actually on the Killing Season record. UM. So we

2111
02:09:25,640 --> 02:09:29,040
Speaker 1: had really started connecting, but I was over here he was,

2112
02:09:29,240 --> 02:09:30,600
Speaker 1: he was doing what he was doing, you know what

2113
02:09:30,600 --> 02:09:32,880
Speaker 1: I mean? Um, some of the teams each having I mean,

2114
02:09:32,920 --> 02:09:35,400
Speaker 1: you know, honestly, I just you know, I'm looking. You know.

2115
02:09:35,480 --> 02:09:37,960
Speaker 1: When it did happen that I actually called, was like, Yo,

2116
02:09:38,400 --> 02:09:41,240
Speaker 1: you good, and was shift nigga, you know what I'm saying.

2117
02:09:41,640 --> 02:09:44,160
Speaker 1: And we just started laughing and doing, you know, having

2118
02:09:44,200 --> 02:09:48,480
Speaker 1: our conversation. And then he was like, yo, Yo, why

2119
02:09:48,480 --> 02:09:50,560
Speaker 1: don't you just come come? Why don't you just come

2120
02:09:50,600 --> 02:09:53,400
Speaker 1: out to Wyoming? Had you been to Whiteoming before? Never

2121
02:09:53,480 --> 02:09:56,040
Speaker 1: been to whim? And I was like, did did did

2122
02:09:56,120 --> 02:09:59,440
Speaker 1: your did your your negro sensis start going off? Nigga

2123
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:02,160
Speaker 1: three o'clock in the morning. There were there was a

2124
02:10:02,280 --> 02:10:13,400
Speaker 1: moose outside of my cabin. What the fun was? And

2125
02:10:13,480 --> 02:10:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, outside that was sucking ship looking at

2126
02:10:17,000 --> 02:10:19,040
Speaker 1: this ship like an old stag and got a hammer

2127
02:10:19,120 --> 02:10:27,920
Speaker 1: soup dangerous actually over you with the moose. Remember one

2128
02:10:27,920 --> 02:10:44,120
Speaker 1: wants to like going the moose that nigga. Look, you

2129
02:10:44,240 --> 02:10:48,360
Speaker 1: don't know now I'm doing on the counter. This niggas

2130
02:10:48,400 --> 02:10:51,760
Speaker 1: around like dash. It was crazy on the word with blocks.

2131
02:10:51,760 --> 02:10:53,720
Speaker 1: Gotta stayed at one top. So like the first day

2132
02:10:53,720 --> 02:10:55,200
Speaker 1: and going to the gym, right, you know what I'm saying,

2133
02:10:55,200 --> 02:10:57,040
Speaker 1: Like my ship on phoning gym. You know what I'm saying.

2134
02:10:57,840 --> 02:11:01,560
Speaker 1: A fox is walking down the street like fox, fucking fox.

2135
02:11:01,640 --> 02:11:03,360
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen the part. No, never

2136
02:11:03,600 --> 02:11:07,240
Speaker 1: nigga man felt like even making a silly nigga like yo, yo,

2137
02:11:10,680 --> 02:11:13,560
Speaker 1: what the but we I like this ship called the

2138
02:11:13,640 --> 02:11:18,240
Speaker 1: first time we asked him. We go to the Bearsville before, Yes, okay,

2139
02:11:18,280 --> 02:11:21,280
Speaker 1: but go back to your story question. It's funny. I

2140
02:11:21,400 --> 02:11:25,520
Speaker 1: just didn't enjoy from Mike geronim No, and here's Bill

2141
02:11:25,680 --> 02:11:28,600
Speaker 1: but not not maeh to see im now his career

2142
02:11:28,640 --> 02:11:31,000
Speaker 1: I put him on Well, yeah, the first time went

2143
02:11:31,040 --> 02:11:33,960
Speaker 1: to bears Bill was with Mike Geronimo. Okay, let's get

2144
02:11:34,000 --> 02:11:38,080
Speaker 1: back the story for story. So but this ship is

2145
02:11:38,160 --> 02:11:43,920
Speaker 1: that the Armitage, which is the most it's wooding, but

2146
02:11:44,520 --> 02:11:48,120
Speaker 1: like Nigga's like, who the funk was staying there thinking

2147
02:11:48,200 --> 02:11:52,680
Speaker 1: that oil Nigga? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but no, no, no,

2148
02:11:52,800 --> 02:11:56,640
Speaker 1: I want to say it's like Harrison Ford was out there,

2149
02:11:57,120 --> 02:12:00,360
Speaker 1: like Nigga spend any of the Jones money at that ship, right,

2150
02:12:00,640 --> 02:12:04,800
Speaker 1: So it's like real selective. We're thugging this ship out.

2151
02:12:04,840 --> 02:12:07,560
Speaker 1: I mean like because because because the thing about me

2152
02:12:07,680 --> 02:12:11,720
Speaker 1: and yeah is like we don't really got the whole once.

2153
02:12:12,000 --> 02:12:15,520
Speaker 1: Once we reconnect, it's it's it's back to what it is,

2154
02:12:16,200 --> 02:12:19,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's like Niggas is just fucking

2155
02:12:19,360 --> 02:12:23,520
Speaker 1: like it. You know, we running through the records, you

2156
02:12:23,520 --> 02:12:25,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Um, So it was a great

2157
02:12:25,920 --> 02:12:28,040
Speaker 1: It was actually a great experience, but it just started

2158
02:12:28,080 --> 02:12:31,440
Speaker 1: out it started out kind of crazy. But Nas is there.

2159
02:12:32,120 --> 02:12:35,240
Speaker 1: Naus was there when I got there. Yeah, nas was

2160
02:12:35,640 --> 02:12:39,840
Speaker 1: nas was there because right right, right, right right? So

2161
02:12:39,960 --> 02:12:43,320
Speaker 1: we did you joint kissy goos. Then we went to

2162
02:12:43,520 --> 02:12:49,120
Speaker 1: l A for Tiana ship. Well we finished Nash. Yeah,

2163
02:12:49,160 --> 02:12:51,000
Speaker 1: we went to l A for Tiana ship and then

2164
02:12:51,080 --> 02:12:56,360
Speaker 1: nah sh it was was last yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,

2165
02:12:56,480 --> 02:12:58,320
Speaker 1: so that ship was ill though that it was ill,

2166
02:12:58,800 --> 02:13:02,000
Speaker 1: that ship was ill. So earlier we touched on m

2167
02:13:03,080 --> 02:13:05,800
Speaker 1: I told your ghostwriter, you made it, you made it clear.

2168
02:13:05,840 --> 02:13:09,400
Speaker 1: That's a different songwriter a songwriter, right, So can you

2169
02:13:09,480 --> 02:13:12,560
Speaker 1: tell people lifference between ghost writer songwriter? For those that

2170
02:13:12,640 --> 02:13:16,040
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm here in the flesh and my name

2171
02:13:16,120 --> 02:13:19,120
Speaker 1: is the ghost. You don't know ghost is And I

2172
02:13:19,200 --> 02:13:21,320
Speaker 1: said it before. I feel like it's you know, the

2173
02:13:21,560 --> 02:13:26,960
Speaker 1: term ghost right, and actually povertizes especially hip hop because

2174
02:13:26,960 --> 02:13:30,760
Speaker 1: you don't there's no ghost pop writer, right. The writers

2175
02:13:30,880 --> 02:13:34,320
Speaker 1: usually credited, right. You know. It's like Diane Martell is

2176
02:13:34,360 --> 02:13:37,280
Speaker 1: not a ghostwriter, She's a songwriter, right. She wrote and

2177
02:13:37,360 --> 02:13:40,760
Speaker 1: Bring My Heart for Tony Braxton, Right, nothing directed Diane.

2178
02:13:41,120 --> 02:13:46,600
Speaker 1: I mean Diane, what's her name? It is a Dane

2179
02:13:46,880 --> 02:13:49,040
Speaker 1: you know one of you, lady is the lady named Diane.

2180
02:13:49,040 --> 02:13:56,320
Speaker 1: I forgot names, so something. And the point that I'm

2181
02:13:56,320 --> 02:13:58,560
Speaker 1: trying to make is that at the end of the day,

2182
02:13:58,720 --> 02:14:03,560
Speaker 1: these people are credited, given their proper credit. Diane Warren,

2183
02:14:03,720 --> 02:14:05,600
Speaker 1: thank you, and hip hop is like a bad word,

2184
02:14:06,320 --> 02:14:09,440
Speaker 1: no hip hop and it's a bad dole, you know

2185
02:14:09,440 --> 02:14:11,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's a it's more of a thing

2186
02:14:11,840 --> 02:14:14,800
Speaker 1: where it's um like to say, you have a gholser

2187
02:14:14,840 --> 02:14:17,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And pop and other genres they don't

2188
02:14:17,800 --> 02:14:22,560
Speaker 1: mind putting upright because in there and for them, it's

2189
02:14:22,560 --> 02:14:25,000
Speaker 1: all about the final The final product is the only

2190
02:14:25,040 --> 02:14:28,840
Speaker 1: thing that matters when hip hop because hip hop is

2191
02:14:28,960 --> 02:14:31,680
Speaker 1: also a culture and it feels like itself made. So

2192
02:14:32,120 --> 02:14:34,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to give credit to say that somebody

2193
02:14:34,160 --> 02:14:35,840
Speaker 1: else helped make You're part of the rules of the

2194
02:14:35,920 --> 02:14:38,800
Speaker 1: culture was always being your own person, you know what

2195
02:14:38,840 --> 02:14:42,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying, being having that individuality. Um. So, when you

2196
02:14:42,760 --> 02:14:46,640
Speaker 1: were presenting yourself as an m C, um, you're presenting

2197
02:14:46,680 --> 02:14:49,520
Speaker 1: your you're presenting yourself right, But when you're presenting yourself

2198
02:14:49,520 --> 02:14:50,920
Speaker 1: as a rapper, you don't have to be an m

2199
02:14:51,000 --> 02:14:53,480
Speaker 1: C to make a hit record, you know what I'm saying.

2200
02:14:53,560 --> 02:14:55,600
Speaker 1: And so of the the while, I say it's a

2201
02:14:55,640 --> 02:15:00,200
Speaker 1: battle because the bad A lot of in retrospect, lot

2202
02:15:00,280 --> 02:15:02,960
Speaker 1: of people should have song writer's, A lot of rappers

2203
02:15:03,000 --> 02:15:07,480
Speaker 1: are in position to be bigger, but they don't, and

2204
02:15:07,760 --> 02:15:10,800
Speaker 1: they they're they're clinging to the culture. You know what

2205
02:15:10,840 --> 02:15:14,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you as a as a business person,

2206
02:15:15,000 --> 02:15:18,200
Speaker 1: as a businessman or woman in in the music business,

2207
02:15:19,000 --> 02:15:22,760
Speaker 1: every resource is that your available, is that your available

2208
02:15:22,760 --> 02:15:27,360
Speaker 1: as long as the budget allows for such. Right, So

2209
02:15:28,120 --> 02:15:31,880
Speaker 1: why would you be why would you be at a

2210
02:15:32,040 --> 02:15:34,920
Speaker 1: at a at a six seven figure level as far

2211
02:15:35,000 --> 02:15:40,000
Speaker 1: as as a performer, But then minimalize yourself to like

2212
02:15:40,880 --> 02:15:45,160
Speaker 1: the elbow grease of writing it all yourself and you're

2213
02:15:45,240 --> 02:15:49,080
Speaker 1: and you're not and it's not clicking or or or

2214
02:15:49,200 --> 02:15:53,040
Speaker 1: trying to produce it all yourself when when you may

2215
02:15:53,640 --> 02:15:55,600
Speaker 1: because you've been on tour, maybe you're a little bit

2216
02:15:55,720 --> 02:15:57,520
Speaker 1: out of touch of what radio is doing, what spot,

2217
02:15:57,640 --> 02:16:00,040
Speaker 1: what the playlists are doing, what's happening on YouTube. You

2218
02:16:00,280 --> 02:16:04,520
Speaker 1: know the number one thing what your brand is brand retention. Right,

2219
02:16:04,920 --> 02:16:08,240
Speaker 1: So there is no boundary in that. It's a boundary.

2220
02:16:08,320 --> 02:16:10,680
Speaker 1: It's a boundary that you create for yourself and hip hop.

2221
02:16:11,000 --> 02:16:13,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Because it doesn't mean that

2222
02:16:13,240 --> 02:16:18,360
Speaker 1: you're still not like because Kanye has stated that he

2223
02:16:18,560 --> 02:16:29,360
Speaker 1: has someone writers is not collaborative. Don't say anything at you.

2224
02:16:30,280 --> 02:16:33,720
Speaker 1: We're talking to Mr so So saying all that to

2225
02:16:33,800 --> 02:16:36,920
Speaker 1: say that at the end of the day, um yeah,

2226
02:16:37,120 --> 02:16:41,119
Speaker 1: like he the number one thing should be final product

2227
02:16:41,160 --> 02:16:43,240
Speaker 1: when you get to a certain level as far as

2228
02:16:43,959 --> 02:16:46,879
Speaker 1: a name brand, like you know, like when I feel

2229
02:16:46,920 --> 02:16:51,320
Speaker 1: like I can't do do the task, then you know,

2230
02:16:51,560 --> 02:16:54,360
Speaker 1: if the budget allows for that, then yeah, I don't

2231
02:16:54,360 --> 02:16:56,360
Speaker 1: have no problem bringing in nobody to be like Yo,

2232
02:16:56,879 --> 02:16:59,480
Speaker 1: whether you keep the whole thing you sparked the idea

2233
02:16:59,520 --> 02:17:02,560
Speaker 1: of whatever cases, it's all about getting to to the

2234
02:17:02,680 --> 02:17:04,520
Speaker 1: next level. Two that you could be on the radio

2235
02:17:04,600 --> 02:17:09,280
Speaker 1: is that you can show why do people always um

2236
02:17:10,720 --> 02:17:15,120
Speaker 1: label Dr Dre has a great and everyone knows that

2237
02:17:15,959 --> 02:17:18,400
Speaker 1: even like easy Easy he said ice cube right the

2238
02:17:18,480 --> 02:17:21,160
Speaker 1: rhymes that I said, Dr Dre is a great everyone

2239
02:17:21,280 --> 02:17:24,120
Speaker 1: knows depending on the album that people rights rhyme. But

2240
02:17:24,440 --> 02:17:27,240
Speaker 1: they labeled him a great. But yeah, and still when

2241
02:17:27,280 --> 02:17:30,400
Speaker 1: people find out, like people like Drake or Kanye West

2242
02:17:30,520 --> 02:17:36,520
Speaker 1: has a little help. The purest pist I think, I think,

2243
02:17:36,640 --> 02:17:40,360
Speaker 1: I think kind of two different. But the purist accept

2244
02:17:40,440 --> 02:17:43,560
Speaker 1: that the purists is like Yo. But but they're saying

2245
02:17:43,560 --> 02:17:46,360
Speaker 1: that he said it for Dr Dre, I think, I think,

2246
02:17:46,600 --> 02:17:49,039
Speaker 1: but he has collaborators as well. He has people helping

2247
02:17:49,160 --> 02:17:51,880
Speaker 1: to play stuff. And I think that Dre was a

2248
02:17:52,000 --> 02:17:55,360
Speaker 1: pioneer for a coast and the sound, and I think

2249
02:17:55,400 --> 02:17:58,360
Speaker 1: that's me for a lot of people. That supersedes the

2250
02:17:58,879 --> 02:18:01,960
Speaker 1: nitpicking of whether he wrote something or not, I think,

2251
02:18:02,480 --> 02:18:05,120
Speaker 1: and I think Dre always was presented in a in

2252
02:18:05,200 --> 02:18:09,080
Speaker 1: a communal sense. When he put out n w A,

2253
02:18:09,240 --> 02:18:11,360
Speaker 1: it was him and others. When he put out the Chronic,

2254
02:18:11,440 --> 02:18:14,120
Speaker 1: it was him and others. There's never really been Dr

2255
02:18:14,240 --> 02:18:18,480
Speaker 1: Drayden solo, to be all honest, Every Drey record is

2256
02:18:18,520 --> 02:18:23,480
Speaker 1: a communal situation. So him rapping the production was it

2257
02:18:23,560 --> 02:18:26,840
Speaker 1: was always thought that it was just him, but it's

2258
02:18:26,920 --> 02:18:29,440
Speaker 1: all always been, There's never been. He's always been a

2259
02:18:29,560 --> 02:18:34,800
Speaker 1: front man, but it's never been all Dr Dre project. No, no, no, Right.

2260
02:18:34,920 --> 02:18:38,240
Speaker 1: So the thing is like, so he's never presented himself

2261
02:18:38,600 --> 02:18:43,400
Speaker 1: as a Drake, like a drake, right, Drake came and

2262
02:18:43,600 --> 02:18:47,680
Speaker 1: presented as presented, this is jovial young money, present Drake

2263
02:18:48,120 --> 02:18:52,560
Speaker 1: as an individual. Right, so we we make the assumption

2264
02:18:52,760 --> 02:18:56,000
Speaker 1: that this is the individual who's doing it all. And no,

2265
02:18:56,240 --> 02:18:59,439
Speaker 1: it's never was explained that, oh he could be collaborating

2266
02:19:00,160 --> 02:19:03,800
Speaker 1: the brand, Yeah, the brand on the Nothing that Drake

2267
02:19:03,879 --> 02:19:07,720
Speaker 1: did was wrong. It just the information was a league, right.

2268
02:19:07,920 --> 02:19:09,720
Speaker 1: It was presented as the least. It was presented as

2269
02:19:09,720 --> 02:19:12,520
Speaker 1: something that the public didn't know, right. So then then

2270
02:19:12,879 --> 02:19:15,200
Speaker 1: then that made you scratch your head and like, so

2271
02:19:15,560 --> 02:19:17,560
Speaker 1: is the guy that I thought or you the guy

2272
02:19:17,600 --> 02:19:19,640
Speaker 1: that I thought? Right, that's the number one thing in

2273
02:19:19,760 --> 02:19:22,560
Speaker 1: hip hop we won't it's authenticity, or you're the guy

2274
02:19:22,640 --> 02:19:24,520
Speaker 1: we thought you was. You know what I'm saying. Everybody

2275
02:19:24,560 --> 02:19:26,880
Speaker 1: who's ran into that kind of wall, it's been based

2276
02:19:26,920 --> 02:19:31,160
Speaker 1: on their authenticity. Oh now we don't believe you. You

2277
02:19:31,240 --> 02:19:35,000
Speaker 1: need more people, you know what I'm saying. So let

2278
02:19:35,040 --> 02:19:40,600
Speaker 1: me ask you. I'm gonna take a pece you could ask. Yeah, um,

2279
02:19:42,680 --> 02:19:46,480
Speaker 1: Game said that on here, we had him on He

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02:19:46,520 --> 02:19:48,680
Speaker 1: said that Kanye did more for him in the last

2281
02:19:48,720 --> 02:19:53,200
Speaker 1: two weeks and Dr Dre has done his whole career.

2282
02:19:55,080 --> 02:19:57,039
Speaker 1: What do you what do you feel about that statement?

2283
02:19:57,160 --> 02:20:00,640
Speaker 1: And where was you? Did you hear that statement? And y'allman, Yeah, yeah,

2284
02:20:00,680 --> 02:20:02,119
Speaker 1: I mean it was on it was on the internet.

2285
02:20:02,200 --> 02:20:08,080
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean, I think

2286
02:20:08,120 --> 02:20:10,040
Speaker 1: Game has admitted that he was in his he was

2287
02:20:10,080 --> 02:20:12,760
Speaker 1: in his films about the Super Bowl, right, So, I mean,

2288
02:20:14,080 --> 02:20:16,840
Speaker 1: you know, Game, when he and his feelings, he'd be

2289
02:20:16,959 --> 02:20:18,920
Speaker 1: laying it off like so, I don't even know if

2290
02:20:18,959 --> 02:20:21,560
Speaker 1: he even I don't know what his intent was. I

2291
02:20:21,680 --> 02:20:29,959
Speaker 1: think he just felt away about like, you know, exclusion, rejection,

2292
02:20:31,360 --> 02:20:35,000
Speaker 1: false narratives of relationships drive people to say and do

2293
02:20:35,240 --> 02:20:40,280
Speaker 1: things right, Um, yeah you can say that, you know

2294
02:20:40,320 --> 02:20:43,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I mean, yeah, that's that's fair to say, like, um,

2295
02:20:44,200 --> 02:20:47,000
Speaker 1: disappointment and things that I need to drive people to Like,

2296
02:20:48,240 --> 02:20:50,040
Speaker 1: I don't even know that's a game true feeling. I

2297
02:20:50,200 --> 02:20:54,400
Speaker 1: just think Game felt defensive, like he felt excluded. He

2298
02:20:54,600 --> 02:20:56,520
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That was a big moment,

2299
02:20:56,760 --> 02:20:59,959
Speaker 1: and you know, he definitely was, as we could see,

2300
02:21:00,040 --> 02:21:02,040
Speaker 1: he was getting enough to put out a project. So

2301
02:21:02,280 --> 02:21:06,080
Speaker 1: in his mind, maybe he felt like because Kanye actually

2302
02:21:06,240 --> 02:21:09,080
Speaker 1: had done certain things in that two week period around

2303
02:21:09,120 --> 02:21:11,880
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, that he was excluded from that and

2304
02:21:12,280 --> 02:21:15,400
Speaker 1: it made him say It led to him saying that, oh, okay,

2305
02:21:16,400 --> 02:21:19,040
Speaker 1: it's a speculation. I don't know, you know what I'm saying.

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02:21:19,040 --> 02:21:21,120
Speaker 1: I definitely don't know, but you know that that that

2307
02:21:21,440 --> 02:21:25,240
Speaker 1: that's that that could be, that could be what that

2308
02:21:25,280 --> 02:21:27,640
Speaker 1: could be a lane for that, you know what I mean?

2309
02:21:28,160 --> 02:21:34,800
Speaker 1: So you know, oh, well man, we actually what's next

2310
02:21:34,840 --> 02:21:36,640
Speaker 1: for though we didn't actually you asked me what next?

2311
02:21:36,640 --> 02:21:38,000
Speaker 1: So so like I said, I got the album, come

2312
02:21:38,080 --> 02:21:41,760
Speaker 1: now we got we got the first single is that

2313
02:21:41,840 --> 02:21:45,360
Speaker 1: attached to a project. Project of the project was called

2314
02:21:45,440 --> 02:21:50,360
Speaker 1: nice doing business with you? Nice? Yeah? Yeah? What's that

2315
02:21:50,480 --> 02:21:55,440
Speaker 1: a statement? It definitely yeah. I mean it's a vive

2316
02:21:56,200 --> 02:21:59,240
Speaker 1: I mean because I think you know, I'm at the

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02:21:59,320 --> 02:22:02,879
Speaker 1: point and in first and foremost it's just a statements

2318
02:22:02,920 --> 02:22:05,120
Speaker 1: in myself, like you know what I'm saying, like the

2319
02:22:05,240 --> 02:22:07,880
Speaker 1: things that I've been through. So that's the old me.

2320
02:22:07,920 --> 02:22:09,640
Speaker 1: I ain't moving like that no more. You know what

2321
02:22:09,680 --> 02:22:11,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, So it was just nice doing business

2322
02:22:11,879 --> 02:22:14,879
Speaker 1: with that guy from from the tribe. It's nice doing

2323
02:22:14,920 --> 02:22:16,560
Speaker 1: that business with the guy from going to music. It

2324
02:22:16,680 --> 02:22:19,160
Speaker 1: was you know, the best way the part on business

2325
02:22:19,280 --> 02:22:21,879
Speaker 1: terms is to tell somebody nice doing business with you. Right,

2326
02:22:22,000 --> 02:22:25,000
Speaker 1: So you're saying you're old. Yes, I'm just saying I'm

2327
02:22:25,000 --> 02:22:31,400
Speaker 1: want some new ship, super ceo facts making making every decision,

2328
02:22:32,440 --> 02:22:37,000
Speaker 1: No man, but one of two records flew me down here.

2329
02:22:37,600 --> 02:22:41,760
Speaker 1: That's that's that's that's your ship. You gott to run

2330
02:22:41,840 --> 02:22:44,440
Speaker 1: it from them. One not too right, and whoever else

2331
02:22:44,480 --> 02:22:49,120
Speaker 1: wanted it? Now? Man, but I was I said it earlier.

2332
02:22:50,240 --> 02:22:52,840
Speaker 1: Oh and I was playing, But I'm not. I'm not

2333
02:22:52,959 --> 02:22:56,640
Speaker 1: really playing. Would you really do versus against somebody? And

2334
02:22:57,000 --> 02:22:59,119
Speaker 1: if so, who do you think it's a worthy of port?

2335
02:23:00,640 --> 02:23:04,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, kick cutting, No, we don't. We don't

2336
02:23:04,040 --> 02:23:06,320
Speaker 1: do the same thing. Yeah, that's that's what versus sometimes

2337
02:23:06,360 --> 02:23:09,920
Speaker 1: it's about. I mean, if it was a celebration sitting everything,

2338
02:23:10,200 --> 02:23:14,400
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know, not everything. Ain't some someb'

2339
02:23:14,440 --> 02:23:17,080
Speaker 1: get nasty. Yeah, you've seen it. You've seen it up

2340
02:23:17,160 --> 02:23:21,879
Speaker 1: the three six shots. Some of that you'd get nasty.

2341
02:23:22,320 --> 02:23:28,080
Speaker 1: I'm dreaming. Um ah, you're talking about like the san

2342
02:23:28,520 --> 02:23:33,080
Speaker 1: No Sean. Yeah, and they wanted in the same movie.

2343
02:23:33,080 --> 02:23:36,920
Speaker 1: But like's in the same moment. It's been right right

2344
02:23:37,080 --> 02:23:40,040
Speaker 1: right right right right right right now. I don't know.

2345
02:23:40,160 --> 02:23:42,120
Speaker 1: It's something to think about, you know what I mean,

2346
02:23:42,160 --> 02:23:44,760
Speaker 1: I've seen. I wouldn't want to say no names because

2347
02:23:44,760 --> 02:23:47,119
Speaker 1: I've seen what happened with I like both of these things.

2348
02:23:47,200 --> 02:23:49,400
Speaker 1: Seen what happened with Bleak and Jewels. I don't know.

2349
02:23:49,640 --> 02:23:51,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I gotta see. I'm just

2350
02:23:52,320 --> 02:23:57,840
Speaker 1: so I'm an album cycle. Charles Hamilton, Charles Hamilton, that's

2351
02:24:01,040 --> 02:24:03,480
Speaker 1: I'm just bringing out the wood work. That's the word. Yeah,

2352
02:24:03,600 --> 02:24:06,000
Speaker 1: he nice guy, though, I don't, you know, I don't

2353
02:24:06,000 --> 02:24:14,039
Speaker 1: only got the plan Asia plan in Asia. I mean, um,

2354
02:24:15,320 --> 02:24:17,240
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if that would make sense

2355
02:24:17,280 --> 02:24:20,520
Speaker 1: for viewers. Okay, let's come on, let's keep thinking, y'all.

2356
02:24:22,360 --> 02:24:26,920
Speaker 1: You gotta relax. No, I would, I would Dad too,

2357
02:24:27,080 --> 02:24:29,240
Speaker 1: and you know nobody. I mean, I mean, if it

2358
02:24:29,360 --> 02:24:31,720
Speaker 1: was in the cell, if it was like Red and Math,

2359
02:24:31,840 --> 02:24:34,560
Speaker 1: then yeah, me and Tip. But I wouldn't go you're

2360
02:24:34,560 --> 02:24:40,840
Speaker 1: a cute Tip against Red and Math. You know what

2361
02:24:40,920 --> 02:24:43,320
Speaker 1: I would you know, you know, you know you know

2362
02:24:43,400 --> 02:24:45,760
Speaker 1: what you know that would do. I wouldn't do. I

2363
02:24:45,800 --> 02:24:50,720
Speaker 1: would do me and Tip versus Black Star and put

2364
02:24:50,840 --> 02:25:01,879
Speaker 1: money off damn breaking news. You you do if Tip

2365
02:25:01,920 --> 02:25:04,560
Speaker 1: would down to do it, Me and Tip versus Black Star,

2366
02:25:04,840 --> 02:25:08,760
Speaker 1: you in Tip versus Black Star, not try versus Black Star,

2367
02:25:09,000 --> 02:25:11,920
Speaker 1: Me and Q Tip versus most definite quality. And I

2368
02:25:12,000 --> 02:25:16,520
Speaker 1: mean that's friends respectful, like yeah, it's still respectful. But

2369
02:25:16,600 --> 02:25:19,280
Speaker 1: I would do that. I would do that. I would

2370
02:25:19,320 --> 02:25:23,040
Speaker 1: definitely do that, and I'm and yeah, I would do that.

2371
02:25:23,520 --> 02:25:25,480
Speaker 1: I would do that. I'm gonna do that. I'm not

2372
02:25:25,720 --> 02:25:29,440
Speaker 1: you know, extrusive thing is not really uh diversus thing.

2373
02:25:29,520 --> 02:25:31,600
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying if it's just throwing an idea

2374
02:25:32,160 --> 02:25:33,800
Speaker 1: as far as like because you put me with him,

2375
02:25:33,920 --> 02:25:35,400
Speaker 1: I was like, you know you want to put me

2376
02:25:35,600 --> 02:25:39,000
Speaker 1: him versus them too? Yeah, the whole native tongue one

2377
02:25:39,040 --> 02:25:42,199
Speaker 1: would be dope where it's a celebration but showing showcasing

2378
02:25:42,200 --> 02:25:44,320
Speaker 1: everybody's records. I mean, what's your guy happen? I don't

2379
02:25:44,320 --> 02:25:46,680
Speaker 1: thinking would though, but it would be dope. Yeah, but

2380
02:25:47,400 --> 02:25:50,400
Speaker 1: that but nobody or need to talk who No, No,

2381
02:25:50,800 --> 02:25:54,480
Speaker 1: the whole the whole native tongue comes out you j

2382
02:25:54,680 --> 02:25:58,640
Speaker 1: B no. No. At this point, they was throwing around

2383
02:25:58,680 --> 02:26:03,240
Speaker 1: trial versus outcast. That would be crazy. Yeah, that would

2384
02:26:03,280 --> 02:26:05,480
Speaker 1: be dope. Actually, you know, I've never got my trial

2385
02:26:05,520 --> 02:26:09,480
Speaker 1: called qush plaque. But let's get back to your ship.

2386
02:26:09,959 --> 02:26:19,879
Speaker 1: They say, yeah, that's um. Actually I didn't even get

2387
02:26:19,920 --> 02:26:23,600
Speaker 1: one for the last month I'm doing. I mean, obviously

2388
02:26:23,680 --> 02:26:25,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I mean, you know I'll

2389
02:26:25,680 --> 02:26:29,240
Speaker 1: be picking up my thing is wired transfers. That's what

2390
02:26:29,360 --> 02:26:33,560
Speaker 1: I respect. You keep going, No, I'm not sure it's

2391
02:26:33,560 --> 02:26:37,879
Speaker 1: about the white transfer. So um, so one on one

2392
02:26:38,000 --> 02:26:40,320
Speaker 1: verses you're not really interested in I'm not. I'm not

2393
02:26:40,440 --> 02:26:44,240
Speaker 1: saying I'm not interested. I'm just I mean because I'm

2394
02:26:44,440 --> 02:26:50,520
Speaker 1: the first two artists that you name were, um, I

2395
02:26:50,600 --> 02:26:53,200
Speaker 1: don't know what they currently have out, so I don't know.

2396
02:26:53,640 --> 02:26:56,680
Speaker 1: Like it's kind of it turned into like a status

2397
02:26:56,800 --> 02:26:58,960
Speaker 1: thing and like yours this and you're this and you're this,

2398
02:26:59,080 --> 02:27:01,200
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm I'm humble enough to say like

2399
02:27:01,280 --> 02:27:03,240
Speaker 1: I got my I got my first thing, while in

2400
02:27:03,320 --> 02:27:06,440
Speaker 1: a minute, I've been doing a bunch of see my verses,

2401
02:27:06,480 --> 02:27:10,359
Speaker 1: isn't fair because I'm right for other people and myself,

2402
02:27:10,879 --> 02:27:14,160
Speaker 1: nobody's being blood staining. Let's be clear, nobody, nobody have

2403
02:27:14,240 --> 02:27:16,120
Speaker 1: nothing out that's gonna beat that ship right now right

2404
02:27:18,040 --> 02:27:22,800
Speaker 1: But he don't have nothing now right this minute. Common

2405
02:27:22,840 --> 02:27:24,920
Speaker 1: would be a good one. I mean that that would

2406
02:27:25,000 --> 02:27:27,240
Speaker 1: that would be a headye. I mean, you know, Common

2407
02:27:27,280 --> 02:27:28,800
Speaker 1: got a lot of records. Though I ain't gonna lie,

2408
02:27:28,879 --> 02:27:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not, I'm not over here. And he

2409
02:27:30,720 --> 02:27:32,359
Speaker 1: used to love him. He got a lot of records.

2410
02:27:32,640 --> 02:27:35,320
Speaker 1: I'll be comming the NBA live. When I first joined tribe,

2411
02:27:35,400 --> 02:27:38,640
Speaker 1: when he had the line, I would comment as different,

2412
02:27:39,640 --> 02:27:52,200
Speaker 1: but yeah, we're not common ism, you know, comming a legend.

2413
02:27:52,240 --> 02:27:54,200
Speaker 1: Ain't know, you can't take it on the way what

2414
02:27:54,240 --> 02:27:57,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying like, you know, I'm never I'll celebrating all

2415
02:27:57,520 --> 02:28:00,200
Speaker 1: this too. It ain't just about me that I don't

2416
02:28:00,200 --> 02:28:02,520
Speaker 1: take learning away from you, I said, like with the

2417
02:28:02,560 --> 02:28:03,760
Speaker 1: other people, I'm not. I could have been like man,

2418
02:28:03,800 --> 02:28:07,440
Speaker 1: nothing all right, because because look, I want to be

2419
02:28:07,520 --> 02:28:09,960
Speaker 1: honest with you. And Nigga ain't know home bots the

2420
02:28:10,000 --> 02:28:13,920
Speaker 1: niggas getting no paper. No, I mean, let's let's just

2421
02:28:14,080 --> 02:28:15,640
Speaker 1: just be real, like you could call up hold the

2422
02:28:15,720 --> 02:28:25,480
Speaker 1: names you want. Niggas is niggas apprehended by poverty, all

2423
02:28:25,560 --> 02:28:28,160
Speaker 1: behind the back in the fucking ball, backling chicken wing

2424
02:28:28,280 --> 02:28:32,200
Speaker 1: like nigga hurt, you know what I mean. So you

2425
02:28:32,240 --> 02:28:34,760
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm not a sore winner though

2426
02:28:34,800 --> 02:28:37,880
Speaker 1: I'm not here to putting nobody facing a bowl of shit.

2427
02:28:38,320 --> 02:28:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm not oning that I'll lift before I do any

2428
02:28:41,440 --> 02:28:43,880
Speaker 1: of that, you know what I'm saying. But you know

2429
02:28:44,600 --> 02:28:47,840
Speaker 1: I mean. But but I'm I am a rapper. I'm

2430
02:28:47,840 --> 02:28:50,240
Speaker 1: an m C first, and part of being a MC

2431
02:28:52,080 --> 02:28:54,160
Speaker 1: is this ship. The rob Van damn ship. You know

2432
02:28:54,160 --> 02:28:56,720
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So like when you say certain niggas,

2433
02:28:56,720 --> 02:28:59,480
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even climbed through the ring ropes for certain niggas.

2434
02:29:00,400 --> 02:29:02,800
Speaker 1: You're not gonna be You're not gonna get past Paronoid

2435
02:29:03,360 --> 02:29:08,600
Speaker 1: over eight Away Heartbreak. Who you think wrote that? Read

2436
02:29:08,640 --> 02:29:13,000
Speaker 1: your credits. You're not getting past Paranoid. You're not. You

2437
02:29:13,160 --> 02:29:17,959
Speaker 1: might not get past Grammy family. I'll call my ship

2438
02:29:18,040 --> 02:29:22,640
Speaker 1: out because see, when you participate in the Ryan, it's

2439
02:29:22,680 --> 02:29:25,840
Speaker 1: part of yours, part of your compositors. So how are

2440
02:29:25,840 --> 02:29:31,000
Speaker 1: you gonna get past on core? Nigger? Kanye called me.

2441
02:29:31,080 --> 02:29:33,040
Speaker 1: I was at a barbecue and we we wrote to

2442
02:29:33,040 --> 02:29:37,000
Speaker 1: hook the Encore on the phone. Two thousand and three,

2443
02:29:40,080 --> 02:29:41,680
Speaker 1: jay Z wrote the wrong not taking another away from

2444
02:29:41,760 --> 02:29:44,600
Speaker 1: jay Z, I'm telling how the hook came out. I

2445
02:29:44,920 --> 02:29:47,879
Speaker 1: said this to me. Every spoke about this before. That's

2446
02:29:47,959 --> 02:29:54,320
Speaker 1: part of my exactly. No, No, I'm not no, No,

2447
02:29:54,720 --> 02:29:58,400
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care about it. So technically

2448
02:29:58,600 --> 02:30:04,720
Speaker 1: I could throw on Core. Great. So then once again,

2449
02:30:04,760 --> 02:30:09,160
Speaker 1: if they're gonna play more fucking whatever the funk song,

2450
02:30:11,160 --> 02:30:14,039
Speaker 1: you gotta handle that. You gotta handle that, you gotta

2451
02:30:14,200 --> 02:30:16,680
Speaker 1: you gotta handle off. You gotta handle a bunch of

2452
02:30:16,720 --> 02:30:19,280
Speaker 1: ship and they're good. You you, you gotta handle spaceship.

2453
02:30:21,520 --> 02:30:26,000
Speaker 1: What you're gonna do about the spaceship not not too much.

2454
02:30:28,080 --> 02:30:31,720
Speaker 1: And who we're talking about again, whoever the fuck dot com,

2455
02:30:32,320 --> 02:30:35,200
Speaker 1: dot com, dot org go to go daddy dot com

2456
02:30:35,400 --> 02:30:39,920
Speaker 1: or the whole three of them ships dot I think

2457
02:30:40,000 --> 02:30:46,160
Speaker 1: that's the way. That's that's the way your coughs. I

2458
02:30:46,240 --> 02:30:49,120
Speaker 1: just want to tell you, man, Uh, it's not a

2459
02:30:49,200 --> 02:30:53,080
Speaker 1: lot of people who to every era that you survived to.

2460
02:30:53,200 --> 02:30:58,760
Speaker 1: That's that's what's crazy. And almost every era in the

2461
02:30:58,879 --> 02:31:02,600
Speaker 1: last couple of you know, you've been there, You've been relevant,

2462
02:31:03,520 --> 02:31:06,920
Speaker 1: you've been involved with some of the biggest projects that's

2463
02:31:06,959 --> 02:31:10,560
Speaker 1: been out. Uh. I want to tell you you know,

2464
02:31:10,680 --> 02:31:13,920
Speaker 1: that's not going unnoticed. That's going with a big salute

2465
02:31:13,959 --> 02:31:16,520
Speaker 1: to it. Because in order to stay of stay alive

2466
02:31:16,560 --> 02:31:19,240
Speaker 1: and survived in this game, I know how hard it is.

2467
02:31:19,600 --> 02:31:22,000
Speaker 1: Trust me, I know how hard of this I say,

2468
02:31:22,400 --> 02:31:24,200
Speaker 1: and I take my hat off. I'll take my hat

2469
02:31:24,240 --> 02:31:31,840
Speaker 1: off to y'all thanks to you. Um. You know, once again,

2470
02:31:31,959 --> 02:31:34,200
Speaker 1: we the first time we actually meant what the shades

2471
02:31:34,240 --> 02:31:38,360
Speaker 1: of hip hop it's like. And you know, you know,

2472
02:31:38,800 --> 02:31:41,160
Speaker 1: I did Drink Chance before when I did it with Tribe.

2473
02:31:41,720 --> 02:31:43,880
Speaker 1: You know, we've all stayed in touch since then. I've

2474
02:31:43,920 --> 02:31:48,360
Speaker 1: watched you guys become to become become to culture when

2475
02:31:48,360 --> 02:31:52,280
Speaker 1: it comes to interviews and YouTube and just just and

2476
02:31:52,480 --> 02:31:57,120
Speaker 1: just having artists giving giving the platform that you'll started

2477
02:31:57,640 --> 02:32:02,920
Speaker 1: and seeing how don't see of good intent have flourished

2478
02:32:02,959 --> 02:32:06,600
Speaker 1: for you guys. Man, you don't take my basically basically

2479
02:32:06,760 --> 02:32:09,119
Speaker 1: said you see a lot of ship. Basically you're saying

2480
02:32:09,720 --> 02:32:14,360
Speaker 1: not even that right now. I see y'alla see y'all

2481
02:32:14,400 --> 02:32:17,680
Speaker 1: become number one. Yes, that's wrack. So that's the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: And whether the analytics is one, is two or three

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Speaker 1: or Apple of Music, whatever it is, the conversation is

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Speaker 1: number one. The conversation has the impact and that's the

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Speaker 1: whole thing. It's just like it's a hit record, Drink

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Speaker 1: Chance is the head. So we we interviewed Dave Chappelle

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Speaker 1: and Dave said, we're just like, yo, you want to

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Speaker 1: get this The water was like yo, I said, I said,

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Speaker 1: we um, I'm forget what I said about I think

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Speaker 1: gonna talking about um the documentary And Dave Chappelle said,

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Speaker 1: great guy, and he has great teeth. Yeah. I mean

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Speaker 1: he was talking about the old model that you got

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Speaker 1: it up with the twenty two for queens get the

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Speaker 1: money right, right, So it's the recipes to the over there,

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Speaker 1: yeah man, And you know we're all here and ship

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Speaker 1: looking right. I little I ain't out here DJ and

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Speaker 1: for chicken fingers like a nigger man is though, what's

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Speaker 1: causing all this brick Flint said, I ain't out here

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Speaker 1: DJ for chicken fingers. They don't call me d J.

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Speaker 1: Honey mustard. Nigga man ain't my man. So like I

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Speaker 1: told you when we did the text, it's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: like that that that's that's that's a nigga getting shut off,

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Speaker 1: and that's cool. That's my man. He shouted me out

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Speaker 1: on the Grammys. You know what I'm saying. You know,

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Speaker 1: but you know, like them shoutouts, you gotta watch some

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Speaker 1: shoutouts because then I'm like, shout niggas out like it

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Speaker 1: ain't nothing. Nig y'allers don't y'all nigga, you ain't just

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Speaker 1: don't like to buying movie between nigga. It ain't stopped

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Speaker 1: in two sixteen because Virgil Gon, we're sending it to

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Speaker 1: me like I said, it's not a lot of people

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Speaker 1: who survived with what what what the this line of

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Speaker 1: question is the question in general because because you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a lot of ships that goes on this, a

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Speaker 1: lot of ship that you know, you stayed strong for

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Speaker 1: and you here, you're still to the test of time

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Speaker 1: and you and you here. So we want to get

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Speaker 1: your flowers what we did. Wanna you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: salute you and we're gonna We're gonna you got anything

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Speaker 1: else to say? Anything else want to say? Uh, while

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Speaker 1: we're on while we're on revote, make sure you follow

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Speaker 1: me on Instagram at car cv um repost any clip

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Speaker 1: from this interview, because I'm sure when I reflect back

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Speaker 1: on it, I'll be like, at least let me see

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Speaker 1: it hit a million and that's what ma, And then

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Speaker 1: what do you can say? So let's make it learn.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs

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