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Speaker 1: Welcome to Bill and Juliana the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome to the podcast. So Bill is out

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Speaker 2: of town. He is not here today. He's actually in

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Speaker 2: the Bahamas. So don't feel bad. It's not like he's

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Speaker 2: on some work trip.

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Speaker 1: Is he with the boys?

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Speaker 2: He's with his best friends.

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Speaker 1: Oh fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one of his best friends, Carson, Yes. And then

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Speaker 2: I'm meeting them next week. Oh fun, with some other friends.

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Speaker 2: We have couples coming anyways, So when Bill's away, I

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Speaker 2: get to talk fashion and all the fun stuff. And

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Speaker 2: Janet Mandela is joining us. She's amazing. She has a

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Speaker 2: Jana Mendel showroom in Chicago, New York and Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: Think of it as high end luxury rentals, like you

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Speaker 2: are going and reserving beautiful Valentino gowns, Gucci, Cluran Balenciaga,

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Speaker 2: Like she's amazing, and anyone can rent these gowns, like

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Speaker 2: very high end luxury rental. But instead of buying a

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Speaker 2: twenty thousand dollars dress or ten thousand dollars dress, you

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Speaker 2: can rent one for a week. So she's amazing. Check

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Speaker 2: her out Janetmandel dot com. So she's joining me right

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Speaker 2: now because I have been noticing all of these trends

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Speaker 2: that I need to, like, I need to get with

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Speaker 2: the program. I feel like there are so many new trends,

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Speaker 2: and I thought, who better than Janet Mendel to come on,

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Speaker 2: because she's got everything covered because she has showrooms in Chicago, LA,

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Speaker 2: and New York. She's fashionable, and her whole team is

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Speaker 2: really fashionable. She has all these amazing like fashion girls

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Speaker 2: working for her, and so I was like, you know what, Janet.

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Speaker 2: It actually started with a phone call, was like Janet, what,

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Speaker 2: Like I was asking her about like some sneaker that

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Speaker 2: everyone's wearing, and then it led to another thing and

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Speaker 2: another thing, and then I thought, you know what, let's

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Speaker 2: do a podcast about hawkgirl trends of the moment. So

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Speaker 2: first and foremost, let's just start on the conversation we were having,

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Speaker 2: which was the walking shoe the sneaker. Okay, so remember

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Speaker 2: there was like the dad's shoe that I kind of

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Speaker 2: started the whole chunky vibe shoe. And now it's like

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Speaker 2: this like walking shoe, like like, for instance, I bought

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Speaker 2: a shoe recently that I saw a headline like celebrities

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Speaker 2: So my brain is like, brilliant marketing. That's such good

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Speaker 2: marketing because I want to walk ten thousand steps every

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Speaker 2: day I try. I wear my little Ora ring oh,

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Speaker 2: and I am like, okay, what shoe is going to

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Speaker 2: help me walk ten thousand outs? So I got like

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Speaker 2: sucked into that article and it was actually this one.

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Speaker 1: Wait, those are so cute? Are they Hokaus?

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Speaker 2: Aren't they? No, they're not Hookahs?

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Speaker 1: Socks? Socony? Yes? Dan, are they amazing to walk ten thousands?

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Speaker 1: They're so good.

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Speaker 2: I walked seven thousand steps today. They had to get here,

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Speaker 2: so I had to cut the walk short with my

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Speaker 2: friend Kate. But these are great. But then Ava brought

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Speaker 2: up Solomon because Solomons have a very similar shoe to

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Speaker 2: this one. I meanwhile, you would think that I'm like

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Speaker 2: getting paid to do this. I'm not. I paid for

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Speaker 2: these shoes. I actually bought them on Amazon. So that's

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Speaker 2: amazing because it was like quicker delivery.

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Speaker 1: So we got suckered into Hokahs. And I will tell you,

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Speaker 1: I actually now like take the Metra and walk because

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Speaker 1: it's a summer from the suburbs, and I like you,

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Speaker 1: I want to walk ten thousand steps okay all the time,

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Speaker 1: because I just think it's better for our brain. It's

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Speaker 1: I love it, you're by yourself whatever. I love walking.

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Speaker 1: I walked in the Hokahs the other day and I

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Speaker 1: literally almost twist, like literally broke my ankle. Shit, because

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Speaker 1: number one, I'm such a klutz cause I've got like

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Speaker 1: I'm just like walking and all of a sudden, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, did I just roll my ankle? Because

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Speaker 1: they're very thick. They are thick, They've got like a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a platform, right.

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Speaker 2: You have to get Oh, I see what you're saying,

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Speaker 2: because they're more elevated. Yeah, it depends. They have different styles.

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Speaker 2: They have one that I think is like the Cloud Verssion,

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Speaker 2: So that's more maybe. So it's funny you say that

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Speaker 2: I have one of their kind of more like trail

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Speaker 1: So then I'm like, okay, I'm just going to put

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Speaker 1: the craziest things happened to me all the time, right,

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, might.

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Speaker 2: Not be the shoe, this might be a Jana Mandel thing,

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Speaker 2: right exactly. You should get their clout or get these,

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Speaker 2: or get the Solomons or cute too. And Ava, will

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Speaker 2: you find out what this style? What's the name of

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Speaker 2: the Solomon one? Do you know? Because Ava's got one

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Speaker 2: that's very similar to this, that's like the hot shoe

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Speaker 2: that all the girls are wearing too, and it's the

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Speaker 2: Salid everybody's wearing so in white or like an off white.

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Speaker 2: I love. Okay, what else should what other? What else

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Speaker 1: Jelly shoes? I'm obsessed?

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Speaker 2: Really?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Have you noticed the allah Okay, it's obviously it's

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Speaker 1: not the Aliya version because they're like thirteen hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: Have you noticed everybody wearing these like mesh flats? Yes,

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Speaker 1: and they were with the barrel jeans or they're with

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Speaker 1: like their little cure like it looks so comfortable, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cue.

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Speaker 1: Not everybody's going to spend thirteen hundred dollars. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: So I've noticed that there's like more contemporary brands like

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Speaker 1: Steve Edelman. Yes, she came out with one, right, it's

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Speaker 1: Madden like all those, all of that, and it's such

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Speaker 1: a hot trend because think about it in the summer,

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Speaker 1: it's light.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Like you can walk into a Nordstrom,

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Speaker 2: for instance, and they'll have like five different brands who

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Speaker 2: have a version of that shoe in different price points,

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Speaker 2: all right, right, like Bloomy's, Nordstrom even online on any

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Speaker 2: of the shop websites. Okay, So I have a clothing line,

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Speaker 2: as you know, and of.

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Speaker 1: Course it's gorgeous. I have some of your stuff.

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Speaker 2: You're so sweet, thank you. So it's like very attainable

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Speaker 2: price points, like you know. So, but one of our

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Speaker 2: our biggest bottom silhouette of the summer, or like most purchased,

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Speaker 2: is the pedal pusher. Yes so, and I just came

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Speaker 2: out with like a ponte pedal pusher. I do it

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Speaker 2: in debt. But yeah, so to your point, the pedal

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Speaker 2: bermudam right. So the pedal pusher HiT's just at like

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Speaker 2: the Knew Year below and it's really chic. It actually

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Speaker 2: worn correctly it has a very like fifties pin up vibe,

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Speaker 1: Vibe and you and some girl Austrian. Yeah, some girls

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Speaker 1: wear like you know, knee boots, right, and it's so chic.

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Speaker 1: Like I would wear that, right, I would wear it

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Speaker 1: with like a body suit and a cool leather jacket

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Speaker 1: or like something like I would dress it up a

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Speaker 1: little bit if I was going out. You could wear

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Speaker 1: it with heels. I love could wear with like stiletto heels.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say so, Like I even wear

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Speaker 2: my pedal pushers that I make so like I said,

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Speaker 2: they're like a knit, right, so they're like a lightweight

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Speaker 2: like ponting it. They're like they have stretch, so they're

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Speaker 2: very like chic. I'll wear like the black one with

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Speaker 2: like exactly what you said, like a body suit, and

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Speaker 2: then I'll do like a like a kind of a

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Speaker 2: boyfriend blazer style right, like an oversize even draped on

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Speaker 2: the shoulder to dinner with a heel. You could do

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Speaker 2: like a kitten heel with it. And it's just like

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Speaker 2: a cute like pull the hair back during the day,

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Speaker 2: big glasses, Like it's very chic, feels like a little

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Speaker 2: like fifties sixties, like it's cute.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I that look is so cute, so.

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Speaker 2: Petal pusher for the bottoms, and then denim the barrel

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Speaker 1: Mean barrelg is great.

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Speaker 2: Oh what else are you saying?

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Speaker 1: There's have you noticed everybody's wearing the low rise low

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Speaker 1: where you could almost see your butt?

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Speaker 2: Crack, I'm leaving.

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Speaker 1: I'm not accepting this conversation, baggy. No, we're I'm at twelve.

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Speaker 2: I am not Frankie Be's or not. Are you telling

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Speaker 2: me Frankie Bees?

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Speaker 1: And then they were the crap tups.

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Speaker 2: Wait this was okay, wait, hold on one second.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gods, are so bag.

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Speaker 2: I'm having a flash. Bred like, so when I moved

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Speaker 2: to La you have a story, Well, yeah, so when

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Speaker 2: I moved to La. I moved to La June thirteenth,

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety seven. I was fresh out of college, ade school,

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Speaker 2: and I moved to La And that was the look

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Speaker 2: for several years. It was the low rider I buy.

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Speaker 2: I'd buy them at fred Siegel. I would spend all

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Speaker 2: my money on these jeans. They were called Frankie b

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Speaker 2: I remember, tight as heck. They were so low so

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Speaker 2: like and then you'd have like a little top and

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Speaker 2: Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera. We all had the low riders

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Speaker 2: dress for the outside of your but you had to

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Speaker 2: also make sure.

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Speaker 1: You're underwear wasn't coming out of it.

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Speaker 2: Well, they are going to come out, so you had

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Speaker 2: to make sure they were cute too, because literally they

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Speaker 2: were impossible. Like you would like literally just like reach

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Speaker 2: over to do something. Back then, it wasn't like an iPhone.

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Speaker 2: It was like your sidekick or whateverready to remember that

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Speaker 2: the razor, the motoral eraser. You'd like bend over to

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Speaker 2: grab your pink razor motoral eraser, and like the thong

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Speaker 2: string would come out immediately, like it was. It was insane.

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Speaker 2: They were so low are you telling me the low right?

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Speaker 2: They're coming back into style.

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Speaker 1: But they're like baggy. It just who the low rise.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what it's clawed, but it's very

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Speaker 1: low rise and it's like low rise like kind of

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Speaker 1: underneath your belly button. But they're bag because those were

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Speaker 1: tighty Yes, this is the bad version, okay, And I

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Speaker 1: feel like I feel like I don't have legs, Like,

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Speaker 1: where are my legs? Where's my ass? You know, like

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Speaker 1: there's nothing. It's just this baggy and it's wide legged.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 1: And they were it with gym shoes. Okay, have you

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Speaker 1: seen this look? It's like I kind of.

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Speaker 2: Have seen the look. It's definitely young.

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Speaker 1: I went into Rittia with my daughter and this sales

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Speaker 1: girl's like, oh, that's so cute on your daughter. Do

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Speaker 1: you want to try your size? I can bring you

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Speaker 1: you know your size? And I was like, no, I'm

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Speaker 1: not interested. The pant Yeah, She's like, we have all

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Speaker 1: sorts of colors and this trendy jeans that everybody's wearing. Like, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I need something that's tight.

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Speaker 2: And so Ritzya had this low writing pat in every

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Speaker 2: do they have that panther? Eva worked styles?

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Speaker 1: Isn't it style?

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Speaker 2: Right? All right? So low rise baggy, we gotta get

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Speaker 2: with that.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna wear it one day. We're gonna we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have a photo shoot at nine hundred. You're gonna wear

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Speaker 2: Can I ask a question, how the hell did we

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Speaker 2: go from suddenly high waisted jeans were the huge trend

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Speaker 2: up to here, and now you're telling me I got

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Speaker 2: to go. I got now I have to tan this

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Speaker 2: whole part of my stomach.

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Speaker 1: I haven't.

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Speaker 2: No one has seen this part of my stomach for

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Speaker 2: so long because the high waist, I don't.

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Speaker 1: Like to do that. That's not for me. I like

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Speaker 1: high rise and I like fitted. Yeah, see how I am.

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Speaker 2: And then stripes are big too. I feel like stripes

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Speaker 2: are ever you were saying that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and Leopard is also coming back, like I feel

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Speaker 1: like anything that is old vertical, you know, has a

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Speaker 1: more of a classic print always comes back, especially for fall.

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Speaker 1: Do you like the visible brah? The visible bra?

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Speaker 2: And I know it as a bistle. I was like,

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Speaker 2: is this a vacuum?

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Speaker 1: I thought you meant visible bra straps?

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Speaker 2: Oh, visible bra strops? Okay, so we want to show

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Speaker 2: visible bras straps?

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Speaker 1: Now okay, now, okay, how are you showing that? Are

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Speaker 1: you showing that with a tank top because you're not

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Speaker 1: wearing a strapless, you know, body suit with the visible

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Speaker 1: So I'm just I think a lot of people mean

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Speaker 1: like maybe over kneae, like over a like a suit

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to understand this trend, but I have seen

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Speaker 1: a lot of girls wear it with just like a

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Speaker 2: A bra and then under showing and you can see

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Speaker 2: the bra. Yeah, okay, got it.

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Speaker 1: And you have to make sure your BRA's cute exactly.

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Speaker 1: You know what else we got? Charm necklaces. Oh, Like,

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Speaker 1: my daughter is obsessed with it. She wears this necklace

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Speaker 1: that says Marley with her name on it. She got

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Speaker 1: I actually like charm bracelets. I would wear a bracelet,

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Speaker 2: You know what else I heard is in anklets. Yes,

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Speaker 2: anklets are big right now?

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, because I think people are wearing flats now.

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Speaker 1: People are wearing a lot more flats than four years ago.

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Speaker 1: So I think a lot of women are just trying

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Speaker 1: to accessorize whatever is visible, especially during summer. I don't

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Speaker 1: really like the socks with loafer trend, but that's just me.

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Speaker 1: First of I don't like loafers, and I don't I

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Speaker 1: mind that. And I also don't mind knee high sucks

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Speaker 1: that makes sense, got it. I love the baseball hat

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Speaker 2: Baseball hat with dresses, Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: I think it's just so cute, so cute, And I've

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Speaker 1: seen women wear it with like heels too, which I think.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's make it your own, right, And also

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Speaker 2: Throw like a cute blaze, like a like a boxy

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Speaker 1: Yes, you wanted to kind of make it. You see,

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Speaker 1: we need versatile looks, right, We're working all day. We

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Speaker 1: want to go meet a girlfriend for a drink, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going to walk out in gym shoes.

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Speaker 1: But if I wear this tonight with like a cute

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Speaker 1: pair of booties, done, yeah yeah, so it just for me.

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Speaker 1: It's all about ease and comfort. But all of these

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Speaker 1: trends have you noticed, are very comfort at ease trends.

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Speaker 1: They're not like wear hei stiletto with like your mal jeans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so keep the loobs where they are in the

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Speaker 2: closet for show. Yes, we're not we're not wearing uncomfortable

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Speaker 2: shoes yet we're not there. Yes, we're wearing some lowriders,

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Speaker 2: but we are not wearing uncomfortable shoes.

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Speaker 1: And these trends have all been they literally created. You

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Speaker 1: know who created these trends. The gen Z, the younger generation.

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Speaker 1: They they're so smart.

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Speaker 2: Right, they created those trends. You think.

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Speaker 1: I think these these trends are very very gen Z.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and I think we need your gen X. You're

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Speaker 2: you gen Z younger than I. Not gen X is

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Speaker 2: I actually looked it up the other day. Gen X

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Speaker 2: is nineteen sixty uh five to nineteen, like eighty or something.

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Speaker 1: No, okay, then we're jen X.

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Speaker 2: Yeah we're not genxers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gen xers.

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Speaker 2: Gen x is the best.

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Speaker 1: Yeah we are because we just can follow anything.

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Speaker 2: Well gen X, like we're the one like when you

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Speaker 2: see on Instagram like, oh, we used to ride our

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Speaker 2: like that's gen X.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no helmets, nobody wore hats back then.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which when you look back, I mean that was

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Speaker 2: kind of stupid. Felt we do need to work right,

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Speaker 2: which like you do need a seatbelt, like what were

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Speaker 2: we thinking? But everything else we were really good at.

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Speaker 1: We were responsible kind of I love you, Janet, I

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Speaker 1: love you. Thanks for having me. Thanks everyone, Bye, everybody,