1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: me Tommy de Dario Today's guest. 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: Oh. 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: He stars in a show that brings the world so 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: much joy. Lucas Bravo is currently melting hearts once again 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: in part one of season four of the smash hit 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: Netflix series Emily in Paris. Lucas plays Gabrielle, a dreamy 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: chef turned restaurant tour who has a complicated, on again, 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: off again romance with his downstairs American transplant neighbor Emily Cooper. 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 3: Did you get all that? 11 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: The show consistently sits at number one on the Netflix charts, 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: and for good reason. It's been set in Paris, one 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: of the most romantic cities in the world. The fashion 14 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 1: it always delivers, the love triangles, provide all the fun 15 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: drama we look for in romantic dramedies, and the entire 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,319 Speaker 1: series it just makes you feel like your dreams can 17 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: be attained. Emily in Paris just feels like lighthearted escapism 18 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: in a world where we. 19 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 3: So badly need it. 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: Part two of season four drop September twelfth, and today, 21 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: Lucas and I dive into the world of Emily and 22 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: Paris through his perspective, but we also really get to 23 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: learn more about the man behind such a fan favorite character. 24 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: So let's see if today we can get Lucas to 25 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: say something that he has never said before. 26 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: Hey, Lucas, how you doing today? 27 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 2: Great? How are you doing? 28 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: I am doing awesome. You've had a long day. Did 29 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: I hear you were just playing with puppies? 30 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it was. It was my first time trying this. 31 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: Wait was it BuzzFeed? It was busfeed? Yes, and they're 32 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: they're up for adoption. It's a very, very cute moment, 33 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: but it also feels weird to like force little puppies 34 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: to be on set with people in lights, and I 35 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: have mixed feelings about this exercise. 36 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm sure they appreciated their time with you. 37 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: Now we are here today to celebrate you and the 38 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: brand new season, season four of Emily in Paris, which 39 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: I feel like the world has eagerly been awaiting. People 40 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: have been counting down for this moment and the show 41 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: is finally here. So I guess to start what makes 42 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 1: this season so special for you? 43 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: I feel like this season I had more on my 44 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: plate and very interesting scenes to play and great writing 45 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 2: to juggle with So it's the most fun I had 46 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: so far on Emily in Paris. And you know, throughout 47 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: season two and three it was a lot of trying 48 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: to get back with Emily and trying to juggling with 49 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: a lot of issues without finding any solutions. And I 50 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 2: feel like in season four there's a lot of addressing 51 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: issues and a lot of finally moving forward, and also 52 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 2: a lot of a bit more love in a position 53 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: to the solitude Gabrielle was going to in the first 54 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: two seasons. In the previous two seasons. 55 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 3: MM, yeah, we can't wait for that. 56 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: And I know that this season in particular, there's some 57 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: tense moments. A lot of people taught on the trailer, 58 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: that big yelling scene between you and Emily. Was it 59 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: fun for you to play different variations of your character 60 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: for season four? 61 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, because you know, you shoot a season 62 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: and you go out into the world and gather experience 63 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 2: and become not someone else, but you're in constant evolution. 64 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: Were complex human beings, as you know, and then you 65 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: come back to a show that has just at one 66 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: day in between, so you have to step back into 67 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: those shoes and it's hard. When you were changing you 68 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: want to infuse those changes into your character, but you 69 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: can't really because you don't learn that fast. It's only 70 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: been a day in the million Pairis world. It was 71 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: fun to to finally have more room because the more 72 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: the more variations you get, the more you can infuse 73 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: your your u nuances and your experience into so so 74 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: it was fun and we loved it with Lily and 75 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 2: I just really enjoyed yelling at each other and at 76 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: the end of the scenes we would we would ask 77 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: Darren for more fighting scenes throughout the season, and it 78 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: kind of gave that to us and and somehow, you know, 79 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 2: it's like in real relationships that in life. It really 80 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: gave us something that fed into the Emily and Gabrielle 81 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 2: bubble and it allowed us to go further into the chemistry. 82 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 2: And it was one other reason why this season was 83 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: so much fun for me. And and also I feel 84 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: like it's more mature, there's something more Parisian so to speak. 85 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 2: You know, they're just it's not about Emily just discovering Paris. 86 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 2: Now she's almost French. She she knows how things evolved, 87 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 2: what the dynamics are, what the patterns are, and how 88 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 2: to to navigate French culture. So it's it's more, it's 89 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: more real. 90 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: You know, they're talking to you for what five minutes Now, 91 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: I already can tell you're a very introspective person. And 92 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: from playing this character from season one to play him 93 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: to today, you know, through season four, what have you 94 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: learned about yourself? Like, what's a great life lessoner, something 95 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: that you've discovered or found out about Lucas and not 96 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: just about your character. 97 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 2: Wow, well, you know, as as as you know, I 98 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: went through such a drastic change I went. I went 99 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 2: from wondering if I would ever, you know, leave from 100 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 2: my passion and to just I think this platform, you know, 101 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 2: spreading a show we're in throughout the world. And I 102 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 2: went from wondering what tomorrow is going to be to 103 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: this international visibility. So the change is it's a it's 104 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: it's been a huge change. You know. I had to 105 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: I had to accept how I was perceived and find 106 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 2: a new, so to speak, goal to chase, because I 107 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: was chasing for the last fifteen years just being on 108 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 2: something and and and having a bit of recognition and 109 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: and once you start tackling that and stepping into that, 110 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 2: you you need a new kind of you always need 111 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: something that you feel like you want achieve and it's 112 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 2: it's but that keeps you dreaming big. And so there's 113 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: been a lot of changes. But how much time do 114 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 2: you have? 115 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: Hey we have half an hour, so feel we're doing 116 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: whatever you want. 117 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: To speak on. Yeah, I also had to you know, 118 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: when when you're in a show and you know you're 119 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: going to get get back to it and you have 120 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: many seasons you you you have to accept for your 121 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: what your character means to the viewers and how they 122 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 2: respond to it and how they connect with it. And 123 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: my first instinct was, wait, I'm more than that. I 124 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: don't want to be defined just by that. Although I 125 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: was grateful for the process and the character and when 126 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: Emily brought me, but I wanted I kind of wanted 127 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: to drift away from that image and to take on 128 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: roles are a bit darker and dirtier, so to speak. 129 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 2: And after that, I accepted what you represented. I accepted 130 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: what he brought into my life and how people respond 131 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: to him, and I stopped trying to move away from it. 132 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: And ironically it's when I started like shooting movies where 133 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: I couldn't be any further from that character. So it 134 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: kind of taught me that, you know, life doesn't give 135 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: you what you want if you're not ready to receive it, 136 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: which is some kind of protection, or if you're not 137 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 2: able to you don't have the tools to actually understand 138 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: it the way it's supposed to be. 139 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all right on man. 140 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: I mean it's funny that we all have goals and 141 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: if we're lucky enough to reach them, we wonder what next, 142 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: and we don't want one thing to define us. And 143 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: it's kind of this weird dichotomy where we're so grateful 144 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: for those things and the opportunities and where we are today, 145 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: but we're also like, okay, but there's more to me, 146 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: So what is that more? And what else can I do? 147 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: So I totally feel you on that. It's a funny thing, right. 148 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm starting to understand that maybe there's no 149 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: end to that process, Like if I reach my next goal, 150 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: I'm still going to look for another goal. And it 151 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: brings you back to just you know, enjoy the ride. 152 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: You're enough and it's not meant to be if it's 153 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: not fun and everything is exactly the way it's supposed 154 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: to be, and it's a lot of acceptance. It's a 155 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: lot of acceptance, and it's interesting. It's an interesting introspective 156 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 2: because I never thought my job and passion would also 157 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 2: be my therapy. But it is what it is, you know, 158 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 2: and when you can mix all of that, it's interesting. 159 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: But it shouldn't be that, you know, people tell me 160 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 2: your job should be one thing, and you should have 161 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 2: different hobbies and passions and and have like escapes, and 162 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: but it's all one big you know, it's on one 163 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: big bubble that I that I juggle with. I don't 164 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm doing. You know that there's 165 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: no blueprint to to to to to a human being. 166 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: But I believe I'm using the tools I was given 167 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: and the education with the education as given, and I 168 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: just go through life reading symbols as well as I 169 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 2: can with my with my abilities. 170 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: And it's funny when people try to tell other people 171 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 1: how to live their lives and then you should do this, 172 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: or you shouldn't do this, or work shouldn't be your 173 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: sole focused and yes, yes, I hear you, but to 174 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: each their own, so we all navigate our own life 175 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: the way that we navigate it. So I always I 176 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: find that funny you know people need no harm, but 177 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, who are we to tell each other 178 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: how to live your own life? 179 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely, because we all we don't came from the song that, 180 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: we don't come from the same you know, education, educational background, 181 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 2: we don't, We don't have the same needs, we don't 182 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: have the same preferences. It's every every human being is 183 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: so complex and unique. Then yeah, it's always hard. It's 184 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 2: always hard to give advices to like a crowd of like, 185 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: I don't like that. And also, we're all students, you know, 186 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 2: of of of this world until you, until you until 187 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 2: the end, you'll be studying, you'll be learning things. And 188 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 2: socratesm on his death beds said that all I know 189 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: is that I know nothing. The more the more you 190 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 2: you know, the more you understand that you know, you 191 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: know nothing about all this. And so it comes back 192 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 2: to accepting and enjoying the ride. 193 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure, And I agree. I mean, I 194 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: like to think I know some things, but maybe I 195 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: do know nothing. But what I do know for sure 196 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: is you bring so much joy to people in this role. 197 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: And I know that it's a character and it's pure 198 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: escapism for so many people. And when it came out 199 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: during the pandemic. It was just like joy that people needed. 200 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: And you and the cat and of course Lily are 201 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: so great together. And I believe you've mentioned recently that 202 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: you've never felt closer to Lily after filming this this 203 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: last season of the show. 204 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 3: Also talk to me about that. 205 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 2: Well. In season one, everything happened so fast that I 206 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: came from you know, trying to put together a few reals, 207 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 2: to to have a demo to send to agents and 208 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: and and try to maybe find find auditions to this. 209 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: And so when I arrived on said I was I 210 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 2: was familiar with Darren's work, a big fan of Sex 211 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 2: in the City, familiar with Lily's work, a big fan 212 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 2: of the movie to the Bone, and just so many 213 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: things were you know, topic into that imposter syndrome that 214 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 2: I was never allowed myself to truly be myself. I 215 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 2: was just I was just trying to be as serious 216 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 2: and polite and professional as human can be. And so 217 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: within that process, I was never It's hard to know 218 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 2: someone where all you have in front of you is 219 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 2: just like the pure perfect, you know, professional products. So 220 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: in season one, I was just trying not to if 221 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: I may fuck things up in season two and three, 222 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: I was going through my own changes and my own 223 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: accepting and so I was a lot in my head, 224 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 2: I feel like, and in season four, I write with 225 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: the will to give back to all the people I 226 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 2: met along the way that went out of their way 227 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: to salute me, to send me love, to be kind, 228 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 2: to tell me how much they connected with my character. 229 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 2: And I was like, I those people deserve, you know, 230 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 2: to be treated with my best work and my best 231 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: abilities and my full focus. Lily, being the professional that 232 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: she is, she guides us through the set with her. 233 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: She's so professional. There's never a line that goes out 234 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: of the script, there's never a she's never laid, she's 235 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 2: never complaining, she's so being that I feel like I 236 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 2: opened up the door for her to connect more with me, 237 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: and so, I mean, we're already friends, but we connected 238 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: on a deeper level within our professional skills. And I 239 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 2: allowed myself as well, knowing her more, to dive deeper 240 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 2: into our Emily and Gabrielle bubble. And you know, in 241 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 2: season one, I couldn't really touch her. I didn't want 242 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: to undo her hair. I didn't want to her go 243 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 2: to squeeze her, and it was weird. I had so 244 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 2: much respect and admiration for her that it was hard 245 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: for me to be the lover and to kiss her 246 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 2: and to everything. So in season four, I reconnected with 247 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: the fact that this is my job. And also I 248 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 2: was closer to Lily, So Gabrielle came more you know, present, 249 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 2: and touchy and and and human because it's been four 250 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: years that we've been playing this this this this romantic couple. 251 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 2: So it definitely brought us to closer. And and I'm 252 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: so grateful for Lilly. She She's always been so supportive 253 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 2: and she gave me so much space to go through 254 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: everything I've been through since season one. She she understood 255 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: from the get good that I was a bit sensitive 256 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 2: or vulnerabolso to speak, and and she let me do 257 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: my things and I was. I was. I was happy 258 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 2: to to be on the perfect perfectly aligned in season four. 259 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: And I think I think you could feel it when 260 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: you watch season four. There's there's something, there's some type 261 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 2: of chemistry that that that you cannot fake. 262 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: You know, the chemistry is unbelievable, and and you don't 263 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: you don't always get that. I mean, look, it's I 264 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: watched a lot of entertainment, movies, a lot of television, 265 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: and the chemistry is always what is aimed for in 266 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: order to strive for. But you know, some couples on 267 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: screens just to have more of that intense bond than others. 268 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: And the two of you, I mean, it felt like 269 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: you at that chemistry from day one? Was it pretty 270 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: easy to just pick up on that and fall into 271 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: your groove together? How does one do that? You like, 272 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: sit down at Starbucks and have coffee and say, like, 273 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: let's get to know each other, Like what do you do? 274 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: Honestly, it's all Lily. As I said when I arrived 275 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: in season one, I was, I was a little puppy 276 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 2: trying to find my ground, and and Lily was so 277 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: inviting and generous, and she always went on of a 278 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: way to make me comfortable, to put me into the 279 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 2: light to and within that process she would shine on 280 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: our own. But it was always selfless about about helping 281 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: me finding my groove, and so I was mostly projecting 282 00:15:55,680 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: my insecurities based on her. Then she was hard to access. 283 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: So it's mostly or Season one is mostly Lily. She's 284 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: every reaction she had, everything I just fed into. I 285 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: just connected to and I just tuned my instrument to her, 286 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 2: to her music, and and she was the first note 287 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: to that the melody we've been building for four years. 288 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 3: That's beautifully said. 289 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: And I love on when you can kind of credit 290 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: your your work partner, your scene partner, with bringing out 291 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: the best in you. I think that shows there's a 292 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: level of trust, and that's so important in any profession 293 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: that people work, and so really. 294 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 3: Cool to hear that. 295 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: Now, the million dollar question for you, my man, do 296 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: you think Gabrielle and Emily are endgame? Are they meant 297 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: to be together? 298 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: If I listen to my instinct, I'm going to answer 299 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: this as Gabrielle, because honestly, when I'm in character, I 300 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: feel so much love for Emily. I feel so much 301 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 2: passion and I want to the world and I want 302 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: to be here for her. I want to protect her, 303 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 2: I want to surprise her. I want to be the 304 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: best version of myself. So so as Gabrielle, I he 305 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 2: will never he will never stop hoping, he will never 306 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,959 Speaker 2: give up on her, and I think she's his person, 307 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: so in his mind, I feel I definitely think their endgame, 308 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: even though entering that puts me in a position where 309 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 2: I'm outside of the narrative. I definitely think they should. 310 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 2: I'm rooting. I'm rooting for them. You know, there there's 311 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 2: so much tricks for and they've had so little space 312 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 2: to do it. 313 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: How you just spoke about your partner in character, like 314 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: I'm over here taking notes on how I need to 315 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: speak to my partner. That was beautiful. Everybody listening take notes. 316 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: That's awesome. I'm very well said. I know the second 317 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: half of the season drops a little bit later in September, 318 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: and without I guess revealing too much, do you think 319 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: we'll get close or towards finding out if there kind 320 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: of will they want their relationship turns into something? Will 321 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: there be an answer either way? 322 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm going to give you a very 323 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: logistical answer now that we tackle the romantic side. I'm 324 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: going to say it's it's always it's always harder to 325 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 2: write about a couple that is doing well, especially in 326 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: those shows that are like chaotic and dramatic and keeps 327 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 2: us on edge. So it's not for me to say, 328 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 2: but I believe that if we want to go further 329 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 2: into that, into that Emily impairs journey, Darren will always 330 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 2: do everything he can to divert us from the truth 331 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: and from having any certainties and any answers about the 332 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 2: final result. So at best we will feel like nothing 333 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 2: good will happen from this relationship. And at words, I 334 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 2: don't know. I don't want to give any answers. But 335 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 2: if they end up together, Darren will always make you 336 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: think otherwise until they do. Mm hmm. 337 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: And that's that's good writing, a good storytelling. So I 338 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: feel you on that. That's that's a very well said 339 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: answer to not give anything away. I appreciate that. Have 340 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: you heard anything about a season five yet? 341 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 2: No? No, no, I believe we're waiting to be green 342 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: lit and we need to see how the season four 343 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 2: does and and uh and we'll see my published My 344 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 2: publicist is laughing on the side when I said, how 345 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 2: the season four does? 346 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 3: You know what I'm like too. 347 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: It's almost arrogant, you know, we're trying to be humble here. 348 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: It's not like the shows doesn't hit number one every 349 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: time a new season drops. It's not like it takes 350 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: over social media. But sure, we'll we'll play that game 351 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: and say we'll see if a new season comes. 352 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: But I said, I said more in the along the 353 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: lines of if it, if it people connects with it, 354 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 2: as as as on the same levels at the previous season, 355 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 2: because obviously people watch Netflix and people new thing. But 356 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 2: if I think, I think Netflix wants to see if 357 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 2: people are still you know, if it's a gutty attachment 358 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: to to to know the truth and to know what's 359 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 2: going what's going to happen after. 360 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough, fair enough, But I have no doubt 361 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: that we'll be getting more and I hope we do. 362 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: There's more storytelling to to share. I'm sure, Lucas you 363 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier something and I picked up on it and 364 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: I wanted to circle back to it. Or you said 365 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: that you've dealt with impostor syndrome, And I think that's 366 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: so interesting because people look at someone like you and 367 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: you're on the successful show, you have an amazing career, 368 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: you seemingly have a life, very well put together. But 369 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: here you are saying that you've dealt with imposter syndrome. 370 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: So is that something you still deal with and how 371 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: do you kind of work your way through that? Because 372 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: it's so relatable. 373 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean you said it. It is relatable. 374 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 2: We all go through the same stuff, you know. I mean, 375 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: it's it's it's funny to me that we can still 376 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 2: wonder or ask these kind of questions, not because you 377 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: asked it, but that we can still find this weird 378 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 2: when we had the Robin Williams example. You know, I 379 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 2: think most of the happiest people, or actually people are 380 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: make you happy and make you feel good, do so 381 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 2: because they want you to never feel the way they do. So, 382 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of personas and masks, and 383 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 2: confidence is also an act, you know, and it's who 384 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 2: plays it better. As I said, we're complex human beings 385 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 2: who are vulnerable and at the end of the day, 386 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: everything we do we do to be loved and accepted 387 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 2: and validated. That's it. So, and we've been given tools 388 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: and we try our best. So I'm trying as I'm 389 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 2: trying my best. But nothing you see is what I am, 390 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: and nothing I am is what you see. I don't know. 391 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: It's everything is way more complex than that. So I 392 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: can go through many emotions even though on paper I'm 393 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 2: doing great, and it can be the opposite. But it's 394 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 2: it's just life. It goes, comes and goes, and and 395 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: it's it's what's so beautiful about it. It's never set 396 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 2: in stone. 397 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 3: I couldn't agree more. 398 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: And I think it's really powerful when someone like you, 399 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: at your level of success share something like that, because, 400 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: especially as a man, I think more men need to 401 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: be more open and vulnerable and in touch with their emotions, 402 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: because we all go through real shit and it's like, 403 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: let's just talk about it, and I pretend that everything's 404 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: perfect all the damn time. 405 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 2: You know, But I appreciate that you you you you 406 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 2: meet me on that level because it is important to 407 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: show people that there are nuances and intricacies to to 408 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 2: fame or success or it's not all black and white, 409 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 2: and it's important to show that you know, everything is complex, 410 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 2: everything is in motion and and and you know, my 411 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: my acting teacher, I remember one of the first lessons 412 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 2: we got was if one day you come to school 413 00:22:55,280 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: and you feel angry, or you feel like disregarding, or 414 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: you don't want to interact with people, bring it. Bring 415 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 2: it with you and live it to the fullest and 416 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 2: let it pass through you and move away so you 417 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 2: can experience another emotion, but never repress it, never swallow it. 418 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: Never you know, you never have layers of and dealt 419 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 2: with emotions that you keep inside and and and then 420 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 2: don't allow your instinct to capture what's what's around you. 421 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 2: So so I'm trying to be as real as possible, 422 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 2: and sometimes you know, it's I think it's important to 423 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 2: be real. We need we need we need truth, we 424 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 2: need a bit of of reality. 425 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 3: I call the name of the show. 426 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: I've never said this before because at the end of 427 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: every interview I like to ask my guests, what is 428 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: one thing that you've never shared before? I know you've 429 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: done a million interviews up to this point, and you've 430 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: been not so open and vulnerable today already. But I'm wondering, 431 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: is there anything that you can think of that comes 432 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: to mind that maybe you haven't had the chance to 433 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 1: share that you want to share today. 434 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 2: Oh, it's never shared. I thought it was never said, 435 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 2: Well it is. 436 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: I've never said this before. I kind of intertwined the words, yes, 437 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: what is something? Look at you calling me out on 438 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: the title of my own show, am are you coming 439 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: from my job? And yes, you're absolutely right? What is 440 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: on my sid said? And I was like, how do 441 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: I know what I've never said before? And and and 442 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: and who cares? 443 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 2: By the way, And I was I was joking about this, 444 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: but share, share, share, I think I can find something. 445 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 2: What is something I've never shared before? It's I like 446 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 2: to think about those things, But I'm going to try 447 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 2: to find something on the spot. I've never shared the 448 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 2: fact that being an introvert, I like to recharge alone, 449 00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 2: secluded or in nature. And and I found out I 450 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 2: found out a few years back that the one thing 451 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 2: that instantly recharges me and and brings me back and 452 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 2: then connects me back to Earth and everything is just 453 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 2: laying under a tree and staring at the leaves and 454 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 2: listening to like the wind, you know, playing the leaves 455 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 2: and the like thousands of little shh going together and 456 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 2: with like if you'l lucky, a little ray of sun 457 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: like kind of dancing and between the leaves. Is can 458 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 2: I feel like, in five to ten minutes, bring me 459 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,959 Speaker 2: bring me back to one hundred percent? And this is 460 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: this is my happy place. I don't think I've shared 461 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 2: that with anyone. 462 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: Well, I love that so much because I'm a huge 463 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: advocate for getting out in nature and putting the down 464 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: devices as much as we can. And I love that 465 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: you're promoting that and that really brings you that kind 466 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: of grounding sense of peace. 467 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 3: So somewhere that's sorry. 468 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 2: I read somewhere that after having found out about this, 469 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 2: that this little saying that trees wind is the what 470 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: is it? Wind? Is an instrument that only that that 471 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 2: only trees know how to play, and and it resonated 472 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 2: with that feeling, and it's it's true, it's it's kind 473 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 2: of that experience. It's it is music. 474 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: Well, now you're leaving me feeling all zen. As we 475 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: wrap the past conversation, I'm going to go find a 476 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: tree in New York City and lay under. 477 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 3: It in Central Park or something. 478 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: Lucas, thank you so much for hanging out and joining 479 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: I've never said this before. It's been such a pleasure 480 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: talking to you and and picking your brain and hearing 481 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: how you kind of walk through life as the human 482 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: and not just your character. 483 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 3: And it's it's really been a pleasure. 484 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: Man. 485 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 3: Congratulations on season four. 486 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 2: Thank you likewise, thank you for your questions, and thank 487 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 2: you for for dancing with me. 488 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: I've never said this before. It is hosted by Me Tommy, 489 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: You did It. 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