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Speaker 1: San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 2: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 3: I did it because I was foolish.

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Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast

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Speaker 2: dot com, Apple podcast, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 4: The John Nick and Kenny Florian podcasts, Guy Kenny Florian,

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Speaker 4: Oh God, you're your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: I feel like that should be gangster singular. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean one of us is clearly a gangster, having

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Speaker 6: three times fought for a UFC championship. One of us,

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Speaker 6: I think almost anybody who listens to this podcast would

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Speaker 6: would say is not a gangster. It's Monday, December third,

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Speaker 6: Thank you Buddy. Twenty eighteen. Episode sounds like a lot

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Speaker 6: of the Anak and Florian podcast Happy Hanukkah, It's all

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Speaker 6: you Jew's out there present company included kid Uh I

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Speaker 6: Know twenty three and Me Told You Part Part Ashkanazi

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Speaker 6: Jew right Ashcarnazi.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right. Believe that I'm.

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Speaker 6: Going to uh so Red Eye to the East Coast

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Speaker 6: last night for Kenny Floory and just an absolute animal

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Speaker 6: post fight show.

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Speaker 5: Baby at home. And you're in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 6: Helping your good buddy Ryan Hall prepare for a familiar foe.

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Speaker 1: I am. I am sorry about the swollen and disgusting

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Speaker 1: face right now. I'm tired as hell, but I'm here.

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Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm doing the podcast. No other place would

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Speaker 1: rather be And yeah, get just helping Ryan get ready

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Speaker 1: for his big fight against the legend BJ Penn at

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Speaker 1: the end of this month. And he's got a bunch

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Speaker 1: of people out here already and I'm going to meet

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Speaker 1: him at the gym right after this.

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Speaker 7: So excited here.

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Speaker 6: So you hit that red I mean that's how Ryan

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Speaker 6: Hall picking you up early in the morning, right he

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Speaker 6: sends a car and taking an over or something. Oh yeah, okay,

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Speaker 6: all right, just making sure that a big fight for

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Speaker 6: Ryan Hall. It doesn't need to be making airport runs.

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Speaker 6: So last night was the first night of Hanukkah. Actually

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Speaker 6: we went out and got our Christmas tree. So I

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Speaker 6: was not a great Jew, but we did we did

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Speaker 6: sing the blessing over the candles. I had to google

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Speaker 6: it flow. I was a little rusty. I want to

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Speaker 6: get it right. I wrote out the phonetics for my

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Speaker 6: eldest daughter, Riley, But yeah, man, I had to google.

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Speaker 6: I couldn't remember it. I wasn't sure, so I shook

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Speaker 6: the rust off. But a lot of Christmas in this household.

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Speaker 6: You know, my wife is Polish Catholic, so we're doing both.

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Speaker 6: But happy honukhuts everybody out there. I don't know how

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Speaker 6: you handled this combat sports weekend, but for me it

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Speaker 6: was overload, and not even necessarily in a good way.

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Speaker 6: You had twenty five singular UFC fights. Boxing was the

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Speaker 6: big story obviously with Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury. You

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Speaker 6: parlay that with three children, and I did not watch

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Speaker 6: the boxing yet, so will lean on you for that.

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Speaker 6: I probably watched like nineteen of the twenty five UFC fights.

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Speaker 6: Were not all the way there yet. How did you

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, for me, obviously I had a great excuse.

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Speaker 1: I was already at Fox, so we had all the

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Speaker 7: I obviously worked both UFC shows.

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Speaker 1: And but we were lucky that we had the boxing

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Speaker 1: it was fun, man, it was for that. That boxing

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Speaker 1: match was unbelievable. A lot of drama obviously late in

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Speaker 1: I thought it was with ta two Wilders, you know,

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Speaker 1: heavyweight and Tyson Fury, I thought it was going to

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Speaker 1: Fury coming back from the dead late in the fight.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: I also thought it was a clear win for Tyson Fury.

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Speaker 1: One judge had it I think one point fifteen one

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Speaker 1: Oh, you had controversial decisions and mixed martial arts as well,

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Speaker 1: And I mean, was it that controversial? Was it Tyson

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Speaker 1: Fury Deontay Wilder controversial? Absolutely not. But these things are

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Speaker 6: Would you say robbery is too strong a word in

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Speaker 6: terms of it ending in a draw? I know you

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Speaker 6: thought Tyson Fury won. Everything that I can read, and

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Speaker 6: ten eight for Tyson Fury courtesy the knockdown in round twelve.

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Speaker 6: There were some close rounds in there, but most scorecards,

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Speaker 6: at least from the masses, the media, the fans seemed

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Speaker 6: to give Tyson Fury those close routes. He landed I

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Speaker 6: guess thirteen more punches overall, So the punch numbers, if

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, Listen, it wasn't a complete robbery, but I

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Speaker 1: thought it was going to be a clear decision to

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Speaker 7: During the fight.

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe he had another round in there, but

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Speaker 1: I thought Tyson Fury was controlling with staying, Bizzar was

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Speaker 1: establishing his jab, Deontayo Walder was throwing a lot of

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Speaker 7: So again, it's confusing judging boxing.

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Speaker 1: And they just it just continues to be controversial, So

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Speaker 1: I don't know, they got to do something about it.

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Speaker 6: I love hearing you say that you're trying to stay focused, right,

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Speaker 6: you got the UFC Adelaide fights that you have to

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Speaker 6: rarely the biggest story in sports. And I say that

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Speaker 6: times a year, it captivates the masses in a really

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Speaker 6: UFC adelade a little bit, keV. Well, I know every

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Speaker 5: Mail, that's right.

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Speaker 7: I listen.

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Speaker 6: And you watched twenty five UFC fights. You're doing like

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Speaker 6: So let's lead with this Adelaide Australia show Ken Flow,

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Speaker 6: because I thought it was a great fight card on paper,

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Speaker 6: it played out, even I didn't watch it live. Junior

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Speaker 6: Dosanto's in the main event, twentieth professional win for him.

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Speaker 6: You called for a second round TKO for JDS. That's

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Speaker 6: exactly the way it played out. He gets his first

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Speaker 6: easy to root for, and as he said after the fight, Kenny,

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Speaker 6: He's got knockout power. He said there was a time

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Speaker 7: For him, Listen, I was really happy for Junior. I

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Speaker 8: I thought ty.

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Speaker 1: Twee Boston was doing exactly what he needed to do

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Speaker 7: That was number one.

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Speaker 1: Get off to a good start, put a lot of

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Speaker 7: Again.

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Speaker 1: That's where you kind of beat Junior Desantles right. You

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Speaker 1: a very heavy hitter in Tuivasa, and ultimately he was

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Speaker 7: That he just didn't see coming.

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Speaker 7: Very impressive for JDS.

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Speaker 5: He was willing to get knocked out.

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Speaker 6: I think ty to Ivasa is a big story in

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Speaker 6: I think he's very long on potential while also understanding

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Speaker 6: this heavyweight division just can change on a dime, right

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Speaker 6: if Jds's chin doesn't hold up to one of those

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Speaker 6: I'm not sitting here trying to anoint Touivasa. I think

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Speaker 6: there's a lot of work to be done, as you

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Speaker 6: guys well articulated on the post fight show. But man,

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Speaker 6: it's a game of inches and tui Vasa nearly had

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it really is.

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Speaker 1: And listen, I think there's a lot of things that

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Speaker 1: say I need to adjust this, adjust that. You know,

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Speaker 1: clearly the ground game is a big weakness for him

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Speaker 1: moving forward. He's going to have to really work hard

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Speaker 1: he does get taken down, because again, anytime you get

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Speaker 1: So you know he's going to have to definitely fill

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Speaker 7: Back to a guard position. He wasn't trying to poop.

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Speaker 6: All right, well, you can count me among those excited

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Speaker 1: Listen, I don't have a problem with either of those myself.

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Speaker 6: And I think for Dosanto's maybe wise to call for

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Speaker 6: I think JDS would maybe be a slight underdog against

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Speaker 5: To root for him.

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 6: I mean, can you have any more respect for a

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Speaker 5: They're down under.

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Speaker 1: To the June Sentis he was early in that fight.

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Speaker 1: I thought Tyson Pedro made a big mistake when he

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Speaker 7: And yeah, I thought he not fight as well.

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Speaker 1: And for Tyson Pedro, he's gonna have to look at

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Speaker 7: Man great.

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Speaker 6: Good win and interesting to hear him reference the grappling

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Speaker 6: I mean not to say that Showgun Hu, and he

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Speaker 5: But you know, Tyson Pedro is a guy pretty highly

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Speaker 6: I know he's lost a couple fights here recently, but

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Speaker 1: Week Yeah, no doubt, and it had to be a

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 6: Also on the stand cardn Adelaide, it's sort of a

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Speaker 7: This kid Martin came in very, very confident.

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Speaker 7: And how about the referee.

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Speaker 1: The referee seemed like he was asleep during that time,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think his name is Jim Perdios if I'm

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Speaker 6: pronouncing that correctly as a kickboxing background, as a coach,

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I just think it's easy for someone like me,

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Speaker 6: And the limb was clearly limp, right, I mean, they

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Speaker 6: are his left arm or whatever. It was clearly limp

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Speaker 6: under his box, So.

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Speaker 7: One hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: And if you see someone at least attacking the neck

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Speaker 1: run around at the other side, and he didn't even

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Speaker 1: do that when Rocco had that head of Jake Matthews,

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Speaker 1: so that was unfortunate.

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Speaker 6: I thought there were a lot of fights too on

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Speaker 6: Saturday night and even Friday night, I think if memory serves,

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Speaker 6: in which there was a fighter still intelligently defending themselves

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Speaker 6: and the fight was stopped prematurely. And I'm usually in

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Speaker 6: it was a great weekend for the referees. And I

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Speaker 6: say that with all due respect to all the men

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Speaker 6: and women who do that very difficult job. But I

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Speaker 6: don't know, didn't think it was a great weekend for

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Speaker 6: the zebras my men.

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Speaker 1: I agree, man, I do agree. I think that a

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Speaker 1: couple people all on the internet were saying, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: they had to fight back. They weren't fighting back. It's

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Speaker 1: about defending yourself intelligently, and a lot of these fights

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Speaker 1: that were stopped. I'm in the same camp, man, I

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Speaker 1: would like to see a guy stop it a little

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Speaker 1: bit earlier if they are in trouble. But a few

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Speaker 1: of those it didn't seem like those shots were really landing,

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Speaker 1: and it seemed like they were trying to defend themselves.

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Speaker 1: They were defending themselves well, and the referees went in

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Speaker 1: there and stopped the fight a little bit too early

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Speaker 1: for my liking. So unfortunate for those guys. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought the referees weren't so great.

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Speaker 5: All right, that's a mouthful. Let's get to very.

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Speaker 4: Long time for the Ray Longo Minutes, and I'm.

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Speaker 1: Gonna push a hole in this.

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Speaker 4: That's what I want is the Ray long Minute John

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Speaker 4: and Kenny fan podcast.

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Speaker 5: And the Great Longo. That's good I'm glad you wait.

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Speaker 5: I'm glad you're yeah.

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Speaker 6: Good, I'm glad you're in a decent mood as we

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Speaker 6: did the triple skype thing today and we kept you

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Speaker 6: waiting about a half hour.

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Speaker 5: Uh man, are we gonna get a haircut? Jesus Ray,

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Speaker 5: No for.

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Speaker 8: For for the fight, I'm gonna get a hit.

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Speaker 9: But say one thing, John, if you want any to

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Speaker 9: retweet anything, you better be talking about battle Box.

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Speaker 5: That's the only thing.

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Speaker 8: Are you fitting? You think he's gonna retweet a fight?

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Speaker 8: A fight in that?

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Speaker 5: That's right, That's that is a good call.

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Speaker 6: I think I got to talk about robots fighting and

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Speaker 6: then I'll get that and get that push on Twitter.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, you got to earn those retweets.

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Speaker 5: I get it.

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Speaker 6: So, I mean, I'm very distracted by your hair. I'm

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Speaker 6: not gonna lie to you. I mean, I know we

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Speaker 6: got a lot of a lot of audio only people

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Speaker 6: who don't love this content. But Longo's hair is going

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Speaker 6: every which way I mean, over the years. So all right,

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Speaker 6: we'll clean it up for the Ally Quinta fight. And

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Speaker 6: speaking of which, in eight days you are headed to Milwaukee, Wisconsin,

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Speaker 6: where it is freezing and int you will have raging

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Speaker 6: ally Quinta for this rematch with Kevin Lee as we

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Speaker 6: usher out at the UFC on Fox Era.

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Speaker 5: This is big man.

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Speaker 6: You know, I'm excited for this fight, not just for you,

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Speaker 6: but for Alan, for Kevin and everybody else. Talk to

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Speaker 6: me man, eight days out.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'll tell you. I'm he had a great training

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Speaker 9: session last night. Matter back, the last couple of days

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Speaker 9: have been phenomenal. Uh, that's gonna be a great fight.

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Speaker 8: Right now. He's in the he's in the right spot.

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Speaker 8: I wish the fight was this week.

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Speaker 6: So in terms of the first fight being of use

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Speaker 6: to you, it was all the way back at the

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Speaker 6: uf see one sixty nine, one sixty nine. When was

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Speaker 6: the last time you threw on that first fight between

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Speaker 6: Kevin and now now.

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Speaker 9: I watched it just to uh, you know, we watched

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Speaker 9: to see a couple of things that was a that

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Speaker 9: was about a month ago, six weeks ago, all.

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Speaker 6: Right, very long ago, pretty tightly here today.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, listen, I thought we were beat I thought we

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Speaker 8: were beating the crap at the referees and judges today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well we could always do that. Listen, what

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Speaker 1: what kind of improvement do you think Kevin Lee has

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Speaker 1: made since their first fight.

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Speaker 7: Look are you preparing for a different guy?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 9: Listen, Yeah, he fought what he fight Ferguson for the

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Speaker 9: interim title. Uh, he's got a lot of confidence. He

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Speaker 9: fought a lot of good guys that he was in

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Speaker 9: there with. So you know, the better people that you fought,

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Speaker 9: the better you're gonna you know, you're gonna get so.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 9: So, yeah, he's a different person just based on who

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Speaker 9: he's been in the who he shad that Octor down with,

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Speaker 9: So he's seen a lot of different looks.

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Speaker 8: He feels he should have won the first fight.

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Speaker 9: So he's gonna be very confident and he's gonna he's

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Speaker 9: gonna get his wish. This is what he wanted for

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Speaker 9: the last couple of years. So I hope he comes prepared.

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Speaker 6: So when Al fought in April, he was training for

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Speaker 6: Paul Felder, he was training for three rounds. Instead, he

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Speaker 6: fights the most dominant force in the game, cub ibn

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Speaker 6: Hermago Mattow, and he does so for twenty five minutes.

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Speaker 6: Now this fight schedule for twenty five minutes. You're the

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Speaker 6: cardio king. I mean, what is different in terms of

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Speaker 6: the conditioning component to that training camp versus this one

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Speaker 6: that you've just gone through.

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Speaker 8: Well, I mean you just said it. This time he

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Speaker 8: actually trained for five rounds and to give Al credit,

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Speaker 8: he trained for three rounds and went five rounds with

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Speaker 8: a killer, So I mean, just give him the extra work. Look,

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Speaker 8: he loves to fight.

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Speaker 9: He's gonna be He's not gonna have trouble with twenty

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Speaker 9: five minutes.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I don't. Yeah, I don't worry about Al

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Speaker 6: on that front. So it was a huge combat sports weekend.

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Speaker 6: As we sort of set off the top, right, there

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Speaker 6: were twenty five UFC fights. You had Deontay Wader and

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Speaker 6: Tyson Fury in the boxing world. What were you watching

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Speaker 6: this weekend? How many of those twenty five UFC fights

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Speaker 6: did you actually get your eyes on.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna say I saw it like eighteen to the fights.

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Speaker 9: And I saw the wild fighting, and I did see

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Speaker 9: the Wilder Fury fighting.

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Speaker 6: All right, So talk me through Wilder and Fury and

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Speaker 6: then we'll get to the UFC.

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Speaker 9: Stuffy look great, great fight for the fans. Whoever scored

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Speaker 9: that fight for Wilder like one fifteen to one to eleven.

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Speaker 8: Should be shy. If you go, if you go round by,

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Speaker 8: if you go round by round.

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Speaker 9: I mean Fury was picking them apart, making a miss

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Speaker 9: easy fight to score. Uh, but it gets it gets

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Speaker 9: tricky because he did drop him and and let me

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Speaker 9: let me just get a a shout out to that

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Speaker 9: referee for not stopping the fight when he went down,

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Speaker 9: because I never thought he'd get up, Kenny, I gotta

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Speaker 9: tell you, I never thought he was getting up, And

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Speaker 9: not only did he get up, he went on to

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Speaker 9: really win the remainder of the round.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So I mean, I haven't seen anything like that.

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Speaker 8: I mean, look, this is what I don't like.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how did the guy go for being completely

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Speaker 1: laid out like at the crime scene to getting up

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Speaker 1: crazy If you if you put that in the movie,

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Speaker 1: they'd be call him bullshit.

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Speaker 9: Craziness. And that's what I don't like. He didn't get

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Speaker 9: rewarded for that affter. You know, it's like more, it's

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Speaker 9: like morale. He didn't want to tap. He wanted to

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Speaker 9: win that fight. He knew he was winning that fight.

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Speaker 9: And they still fucked though, and Tyson and Tyson Fury

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Speaker 9: got fucked. It's disguised a little bit because he got

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Speaker 9: knocked down in two rounds and one was pretty brutal,

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Speaker 9: but he got up to win the remainder of that round.

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Speaker 6: Seems like a real classic guy too. Couldn't have handled

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Speaker 6: every unbelieve.

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Speaker 8: After the fact that he been unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: All right, So in terms of the UFC stuff, we

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Speaker 6: haven't yet touched on Kamara Usman, and it's too bad.

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Speaker 5: There's not more shine on this guy.

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Speaker 6: But when you have a bigger UFC fight night, essentially

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Speaker 6: the night after right, you do get lost in the

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Speaker 6: shuffle shuffle you had Wilder and Fury obviously, but I mean,

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Speaker 6: what else can you say about this guy? Everybody at

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Speaker 6: the UFC is put in front of him. He has

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Speaker 6: dominated a lot of thirty twenty fours and thirty twenty

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Speaker 6: fives in his in his past and obviously a fifty

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Speaker 6: forty three I believe on this night against Hafeyel Dosanzos

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Speaker 6: and he thoughts for me on the Nigerian Nightmare, Kamara Ousman.

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Speaker 9: I gotta tell you, I think I told I think

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Speaker 9: I saw a pamaroout a year ago.

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Speaker 8: I think he's the guy to look at.

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Speaker 9: He he deserves the shot and uh, that's a dominant

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Speaker 9: performance against a tough guy, and he's like again, anybody

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Speaker 9: they put in front of him, who's he's come through

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Speaker 9: with flying colors.

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Speaker 8: So he's the guy to watch. I think he's really good.

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Speaker 6: All right, last thing before I try to get some

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Speaker 6: predictions on the two title fights this weekend, Max Holloway,

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Speaker 6: Brian Ortega, Valentina Chevchenko, Joanna Young j check. So there

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Speaker 6: continue to be these rumors and now reports of a

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Speaker 6: potential one hundred and sixty five pound division in the UFC.

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Speaker 6: I think Josh Thompson, former UFC fighter now commentator bjpen

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Speaker 6: dot COM's Chris Taylor, I think reporting some of these

656
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Speaker 6: rumors as well, that welterweight would then be one hundred

657
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Speaker 6: and seventy five pounds and the UFC, in theory, would

658
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Speaker 6: replace the flyweights with a one hundred and sixty five

659
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Speaker 6: pound division. Now here's Ali a quinta guy who largely

660
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Speaker 6: fights at his natural weight. What do you think about

661
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Speaker 6: the possibility of a one hundred and sixty five pound

662
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Speaker 6: division in the UFC and a guy like Kevin Lee

663
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Speaker 6: who almost assuredly would move up as soon as that

664
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Speaker 6: division was realized.

665
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Speaker 8: No, I like, I like the one sixty five. I

666
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Speaker 8: like this separation of ten pounds, you know, Al, I

667
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Speaker 8: think would be perfect. That one fifty you know what

668
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Speaker 8: I mean. I think that would be one forty.

669
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Speaker 9: Five is too much, but right he makes fifty five

670
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Speaker 9: pretty so you know, yeah, between divisions, I think you.

671
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Speaker 8: Know, I always saw one would be the best way

672
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Speaker 8: class to him.

673
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Speaker 6: All right, Well, I cannot wait to see you in Milwaukee,

674
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 6: Wisconsin with a fat check in my hand. For you,

675
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 6: I'm total. You can add to that total right now.

676
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 6: Last week I gave you the option to pick fights.

677
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 6: This week, there is no choice in the matter. We

678
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Speaker 6: need predictions. It is a pay per view UFC two

679
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Speaker 6: thirty one. Holloway versus Ortega. Max Holloway slight favorite right

680
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 6: now against Brian Ortega. Valentina Chevchenko three to one favorite

681
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 6: against Joanna Young, Jay Check. You can win fifty bucks

682
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 6: on either of these fights, both of these fights. I

683
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 6: need something out of you this week. Who do you

684
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 6: like in Toronto? Come on, man, Come on.

685
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 8: I drive a dus I mean I drive a bus.

686
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 6: So Holloway or Tega, you don't have even a lean

687
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Speaker 6: for me? I mean, this is something.

688
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Speaker 8: I'm gonna go with.

689
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Speaker 9: Uh, somebody said, I look I like I like Holloway,

690
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 9: I like it with I like him both.

691
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 8: I'm gonna have to go with or Taga.

692
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Speaker 9: Uh, not only because somebody told me Holloway didn't sound

693
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 9: good in a couple of interviews, so I'm kind of

694
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 9: worried about him that in that respect.

695
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Speaker 8: So okay, I think I'm gonna go with.

696
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Speaker 1: Uh.

697
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Speaker 9: I hope he's healthy and I hope he makes it

698
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Speaker 9: to the fight healthy and uh, you know whatever, I

699
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 9: think I'm gonna go with.

700
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Speaker 6: All Right, Brian t City or Tega the Lean from

701
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Speaker 6: Ray Longo? All right, my man, look forward to seeing you.

702
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 6: Assume we will talk to you next Monday. Uh as

703
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Speaker 6: your fight week begins. Thank you for the time. Sorry

704
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 6: about the delay, and uh, I'll let you get back

705
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Speaker 6: to it, my man.

706
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 8: No, will you? Will you two guys, there's no such

707
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 8: thing as a delay. There's no such thing. Yeah, there's

708
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Speaker 8: no team.

709
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Speaker 6: Hey, thanks man, go get that Ray Longo minute sold?

710
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 6: Can you go get that segment sold already?

711
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 8: Oh, we got that, we got that going. I just

712
00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 8: hope we have a show, no show, right, but I

713
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 8: don't know, I don't even know. We got a reel

714
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Speaker 8: link Penny, I think at this.

715
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Speaker 6: Point, I think I think that's accurate. You're right, Maybe

716
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 6: maybe we should find a home for the podcast before

717
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 6: we get the Ray Longo minutes sold.

718
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 5: All right, man, thank you. We'll talk to you in

719
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Speaker 5: seven days, all.

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Speaker 8: Right, take it together. All right?

721
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Speaker 6: There he is Ray Longo every week here on the

722
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Speaker 6: Endporing podcast.

723
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Speaker 7: Maybe.

724
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Speaker 6: So this one hundred and sixty five pound division, I

725
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 6: think all of us can agree that with the depth

726
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Speaker 6: of fifty five and seventy, given the fact that those

727
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Speaker 6: two divisions have for as long as I can remember,

728
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Speaker 6: with respect to the featherweights in the middleweights, but fifty

729
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 6: five and seventy have been ubiquitously regarded as the deepest

730
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Speaker 6: and best UFC divisions. So to have that fifteen pound

731
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Speaker 6: gap in between those two divisions just.

732
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Speaker 5: Didn't make a lot of sense.

733
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Speaker 6: And I think in twenty eighteen, I don't know if

734
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Speaker 6: we're getting the cart before the horse, if that's the expression,

735
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Speaker 6: But you know, maybe the promotion sort of thinks, man,

736
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Speaker 6: we have all this talent, maybe it makes more sense

737
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Speaker 6: to do that there as opposed to having a fly

738
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Speaker 6: weight division. Kenny, I know this hits close to home

739
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Speaker 6: as a guy who competed, you know, below and above

740
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Speaker 6: one hundred and sixty five pounds. What do you think

741
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Speaker 6: about the possibility of a one hundred and sixty five

742
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Speaker 6: pound division in the UFC, you know, come January essentially,

743
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Speaker 6: if the if the rumors have any legs.

744
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Speaker 1: John, I think I've been talking about this since our

745
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: MMA Live days. You know, I always thought that, you know,

746
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: the weight classes should be separated by ten pounds, especially

747
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Speaker 1: now in an era where we have so many one

748
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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five pounders and one hundred and seventy pounders.

749
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Speaker 1: And I think for the UFC, if it seems like

750
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Speaker 1: they're going the route of let's make the biggest fight possible,

751
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Speaker 1: let's put as many championship belts on the line for

752
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Speaker 1: posters as we can, well there's another weight class for you.

753
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Speaker 7: I mean, if they're doing it for women, they're adding

754
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Speaker 7: one hundred and.

755
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Speaker 1: Forty five pound weight class, one hundred and twenty five

756
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Speaker 1: pound weight class, why not add one at one hundred

757
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Speaker 1: and sixty five pounds. And furthermore, I think you can

758
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Speaker 1: make what at one hundred and ninety five pounds, I

759
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: think it should go two oh five one ninety five

760
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Speaker 1: five one seventy five, one sixty five all the way

761
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Speaker 1: down by ten pounds. I think that's something that the

762
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Speaker 1: UFC can sustain, and I think it makes sense from

763
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Speaker 1: a business perspective as well.

764
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Speaker 6: I think the type a guy in me wouldn't mind

765
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Speaker 6: seeing that natural progression of every ten pounds. I'm not

766
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 6: sure given where the light heavyweight top fifteen is, that

767
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 6: there's much of an appetite or at least a talent

768
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Speaker 6: base for one ninety five, but I could certainly be

769
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 6: wrong there. But in terms of the flyweights being killed, right,

770
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Speaker 6: that would fly in the face of some of the

771
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 6: argument to have these championship belts, right, I mean, there's

772
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 6: enough talented flyweight in my opinion, to sustain a division.

773
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 6: So if you're introducing sixty five ers, and again this

774
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 6: is just a rumor as we sit here on Monday,

775
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 6: December third, but I don't know that you need to

776
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 6: kill the twenty fives. So despite what we've heard, despite

777
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 6: the fact that a lot of flyweight seemingly have lost

778
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 6: their contracts, I'm just I'm not sure we can just

779
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Speaker 6: simply bury the flyweight vision yet.

780
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Speaker 5: But I guess we'll find out.

781
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Speaker 6: We'll get some answers coming up at UFC two thirty

782
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 6: three in Anaheim when TJ. Dillashaw or Henry Shudo has

783
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 6: his hand raised after that, all right, we're gonna get

784
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 6: to our guest picker here in sixty seconds, Kenny, But

785
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 6: I got to get something from you on Kamarro Usman

786
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 6: nine to zero in the UFC. I still want to

787
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 6: see Tyron Woodley face Colby Covington. Covington won an interim championship.

788
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 6: I think that needs to be recognized and acknowledged. Even

789
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 6: though he couldn't make that September eighth date that Darren

790
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 6: Till was able to make. I still think Woodley Covington

791
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 6: is the fight. I also think Usman now at this

792
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 6: point should wait for a title fight like Tyron Woodley

793
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 6: did back in the day when he felt like he

794
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 6: had gotten the win.

795
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 5: To get there.

796
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 6: What do you think about Usman's win and what it

797
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 6: does for him in terms of this packing order at

798
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Speaker 6: one hundred and seventy pounds.

799
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Speaker 1: I think kamorroaw Uzman is an absolute savage. I think

800
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Speaker 1: for anyone who had any doubts about Kamorrow, I think

801
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: all those are put to rest after that performance against

802
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: halfield dose angels. He went out there and I thought

803
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: one every single round and did it pretty easily. There

804
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: was no point where I thought he was in trouble,

805
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: maybe with that Kimora from the bottom that Dos Angeles had,

806
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: but other than that, it was all kamaraw Uzman all

807
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: the time. And RDA is a fighter that I really respect.

808
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: He brings in a lot of skills and a lot

809
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: of experience. But kamorrow Uzman I thought did everything he

810
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: needed to do to get that next title shot. Now

811
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: Kobe Covington, obviously I think deserves it. I think that's

812
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: a very marketable fight. I think that's a fight where

813
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: Tyron Woodley could make some decent money. But I have

814
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: no problem with kamaraw Uzman slipping in there as well.

815
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: I know that Dana mentioned that obviously when we asked

816
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: him about that on the show, and he thought that

817
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: kamaraw Uzman might get that next shot over Kobe. So

818
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's negotiations going on with Kobe

819
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: that need to be resolved or whatever, but either way,

820
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: I think you have two very good options at one

821
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy pounds for Tyron Woodley.

822
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, good problem to have for Tyron Woodley and for

823
00:37:58,680 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 5: the UFC.

824
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 6: And let's also not forget that kamar Usman didn't make

825
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 6: the Championship wait back in September in a backup scenario

826
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Speaker 6: in case Woodley or Till fell out. So that's another

827
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 6: feather in the kappa of the oncoming kamara Usman. All Right,

828
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 6: did our best to sort of try to touch on

829
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 6: any number of different things. But we got a huge

830
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 6: weekend coming up as the UFC returns to pay per

831
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 6: view for the first time in a month.

832
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Speaker 5: To that end, we make some picks. Let's get to

833
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 5: the Main Event Challenge. It's the Main Event Challenge and

834
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Speaker 5: the time is most definitely Flori.

835
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Speaker 6: Hi Fish, Fine, how do you everything?

836
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 8: Both?

837
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 4: We'll do win the Main Event Challenge. John Hennick and

838
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 4: Kenny Florian podcast.

839
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 6: Well don't look now, folks, but here comes Team Florian.

840
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 6: It was one thirty five, one twenty four going into

841
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 6: the weekend, and things have tightened up further, folks. Ken

842
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 6: Flow wins a third consecutive week six to three over

843
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 6: odd Sharks.

844
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 5: Justin Hartling.

845
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 6: It is one thirty eight to one thirty with three

846
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 6: live UFC shows to go in twenty eighteen. So if

847
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 6: Kenny does not feel like doing a power hour on

848
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 6: the air early twenty nineteen, you might have to take

849
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 6: some chances with some opposite picks today. That's why we

850
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 6: will have our guest picker go first and our guest

851
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 6: picker today making picks for Team ANAK, longtime listener from Chicago, Illinois.

852
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 6: He's got something to prove today against the flow. Frank

853
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 6: Gardina was with us. Frank, good afternoon, sir.

854
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 10: How are you hey? What's going on?

855
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Speaker 7: Though?

856
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 10: It is doing good? How you feeling? You're beer grateful

857
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 10: to be here.

858
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 6: It's a pleasure to have you, my man. Did I

859
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 6: pronounce that right? Frank Garddo you pronounced it perfectly?

860
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 10: You're really good with those last names. Yeah, I deled

861
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 10: in man.

862
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 5: I appreciate that.

863
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 6: Well. We're happy to have you and happy to have

864
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 6: you because you could essentially ice this thing for my

865
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 6: squad if you can have a good week here at

866
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 6: is UFC two thirty one Holloway v or Tega first

867
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 6: fight for US fellas the featured prelim on FS one

868
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 6: Cloudsa Gadelia three to one favorite minus three hundred against

869
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 6: Nina Answeroff, who is plus two forty. Frank this is

870
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 6: the biggest career spot to date for Nina. Answer offf

871
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Speaker 6: how do you think she does against Gadelia?

872
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 10: So, I think it's a very there's a vast uh,

873
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Speaker 10: there's excuse me, Nina answerot. I feel like is a

874
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 10: good fighter, But is she good enough to take on

875
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 10: the challenge that is Clajia Gadelia. You know, I think

876
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 10: they're really they could be thrown into the wolves right now,

877
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 10: despite her recent fortfight win streak and training with the

878
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 10: likes of Amanda and Nunez. But I think that Claudia

879
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 10: is veteran shipped and just I don't know how much

880
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 10: time she's done in the octagon really is gonna do

881
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 10: her well for this fight, and I don't. I just

882
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 10: don't see a good way that need to answer ut

883
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 10: to win this fight. So I'm gonna go with Klaja Kadelia.

884
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 6: Ken Florina Answerovs won three in a row. I thought

885
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 6: she looked really strong against Random Marcos and Angela Hill,

886
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 6: And at least in terms of where she is in

887
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 6: her career, this fight is happening at the right time.

888
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 6: She is entering her fighting prime a lot of confidence

889
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,959
Speaker 6: obviously with her significant other Amanda Nunaz and everything she's done,

890
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 6: but Kadelia.

891
00:40:58,520 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 5: Obviously is no pick.

892
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 6: That could be the first strawweight fight in UFC history

893
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 6: that we call back in twenty fourteen. What do you

894
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 6: think about Gadelia and answer off this weekend?

895
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: Well, listen, I think under normal circumstances, I would probably

896
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 1: pick Claudia Gadelia.

897
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 7: Why.

898
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 1: I think she has very good wrestling. I think she's

899
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 1: very good on the ground as well. I think she's

900
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: probably the superior striker as far as putting together solid combinations.

901
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 7: Now, Nina is awkward on the feet.

902
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: I mean, she has an interesting rhythm and she can

903
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: throw a lot of women off in that division. I

904
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: actually think Nina might be better on the ground than

905
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: Claudia Gadelia.

906
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 7: I do need points.

907
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: I think Nina is going to surprise people as well,

908
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: regardless winner lose.

909
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 7: But I'm gonna go with Nina answer off here for

910
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 7: the win, and I think.

911
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 6: It's smart, especially given the standings, because Nina answer off

912
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 6: at plus two forty, if she wins, you get an

913
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 6: additional two points, which could be a three point. I'm

914
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 6: starting to get a little bit nervous here that this

915
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 6: Power Hour might be mine all right, Chiago Santos Jimmy Manawa.

916
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 6: This is the main card opener on pay per view

917
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 6: at light heavyweight. So for Thiago Mahata, Santo's first fifteen

918
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 6: UFC fights were at middleweight. Last one, though, is at

919
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 6: light heavyweight. Couldn't have gone much better stoppage of you boy,

920
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 6: Eric Anders. He is the betting favorite here minus one

921
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 6: ninety five against the division staple Jimmy Manuwa, who comes

922
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 6: back as a plus one sixty five underdog. Frank, talk

923
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 6: to me here, Jimmy Manowa, Thiago Santos, Who do you like?

924
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 10: So it's no surprise that Tiago Santos has been on

925
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 10: a chair lately with that minor setback against David Branch

926
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 10: And if I'm being honest, I think Diago is probably

927
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 10: one of the scariest dudes in the UFC. I want

928
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 10: nothing to do with that guy. If I had to

929
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 10: make this a pick before Manual thought Ozamir, I'd probably

930
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 10: be leaning towards Jimmy in this flight. However, I think

931
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 10: that Diago will do a good job keeping Manua at

932
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 10: distance that range with us crazy kikes that he's got,

933
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 10: and I anticipated Santos, excuse me, we'll go on to

934
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 10: have three wins in a row.

935
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 5: Ken Flow.

936
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 6: Frank mentioned that little hiccup against David Branch for Thiago Santos.

937
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 6: Otherwise he has been on an absolute tear for two years.

938
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 6: He's won six of seven over all, five of those

939
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 6: by knockout. He's thirty four years old. Jimmy Manua a

940
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 6: little longer in the tooth. He's thirty eight. Big fight

941
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 6: here at two zho five. How do you see a

942
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 6: plan out?

943
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 8: Listen.

944
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: Both these guys are extremely dangerous and kind of similar

945
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: in the way they approach the game. I think that

946
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: Santos is probably a little bit more dangerous with his

947
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: kicking game. Maniwa more dangerous with his hands now. I

948
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,479
Speaker 1: think that's where Santos gets caught is on the feet

949
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: with the hands. I think Maniwa has a little bit

950
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: of a speed advantage there. I think Manuel really needs

951
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: to win. He's going to come out here motivated. At

952
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: two hundred and five pounds. The landscape can change very quickly.

953
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: As you said earlier, John, I think Manowa gets the

954
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: win here.

955
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 7: Again. I need some points. Let's go with the other dog.

956
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 7: I like it.

957
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 5: No, you're doing the right thing. You're doing the right thing.

958
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 6: Also on this main card strong main card by the way,

959
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 6: in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, this weekend, this fight at featherweight.

960
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 6: The Canadian had Keem Dowad minus one eighty taking on

961
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 6: the Boston, Massachusetts Broaduct Kyle Bockniak. Bockniak the plus one

962
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 6: sixty five underdog Saturday Night, Frank Flores, yours my man,

963
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 6: Hakeem Dowado Kyle Bockniak.

964
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 5: Who will it be?

965
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 10: So despite Kyle Bokniak being the underdog in this fight,

966
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 10: I mean, his last fight against Macomet Cherry Pop is

967
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 10: one of my all time favorite fights to watch. I

968
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 10: think I've watched it maybe four or five times now

969
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 10: at this point, and it's really hard for me to

970
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 10: pick against him. Even though the Hakeen is favored to win,

971
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 10: I don't think that Kyle Boknak is that great of

972
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 10: an underdog. I can see this fight going either way,

973
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 10: but I think since Kyle has never lost two fights

974
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 10: back to back, I just don't see him losing this

975
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 10: next fight. So I'm going to take Boknak for the win.

976
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, Kempell.

977
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 6: A lot of people are liking Kyle Bokniak as an

978
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 6: underdog in this spot. What do you think about the

979
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 6: Boston native here against a very talented on the feat

980
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 6: Hakeem Daoadu.

981
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: Listen, I think Frank's right here. I actually I'm gonna

982
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: go with Bocknick as well. I think the key moves

983
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: very well. I think he's a very capable striker. I

984
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: think he's very dangerous. I just think that Kyle is

985
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: going to be a little bit too durable, and when

986
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: things get nasty, I think Kyle will still be there

987
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: getting to win.

988
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 5: All right.

989
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 6: Next up, what a fight this is going to be

990
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 6: at welterweight, Goodnar Nelson minus one fifty, the favorite making

991
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 6: his return here for the first time in a long

992
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 6: time against the guy that some people love to hate,

993
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 6: Alex Cowboy Oliveria's just trying to have a good time, folks.

994
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 6: You know everybody's banging on Cowboy OLIVERA. He's a plus

995
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 6: one twenty underdog here against Goodny Nelson Frank. Big fight

996
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 6: at one hundred and seventy pounds. Which way do you

997
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 6: see it going?

998
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 10: I think at this point it's going to be how

999
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 10: much did the time off really affects goner Nelson? After

1000
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 10: not being in the octagon for so long, and you

1001
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 10: look at Olivera. He's spot three times this year, so

1002
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 10: he's got He's definitely got the familiarity of the octagon

1003
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 10: going on, and I think he might just have the

1004
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 10: kitch shots on the ground to really keep goner Nelson

1005
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 10: from doing what he wants to do on the ground.

1006
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 10: I can honestly see the fight going either way, but

1007
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 10: I'm gonna have to pick the underdog cowboy Olivera to

1008
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 10: walk away with the.

1009
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 6: Wind here, and I think Kenny's gonna like that because

1010
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 6: I'd imagine he likes Gonner Nelson here. Olivera has been

1011
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 6: an absolute workhorse, by the way, and deserves credit for it.

1012
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 6: Fourteenth UFC start not in three with a no contest,

1013
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 6: so the results have been there as well, only one

1014
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 6: loss for Cowboys spanning his last eight, and of course

1015
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 6: the Gooder Nelson layoff dates to July twenty seventeen. Two

1016
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 6: of his three UFC losses were in his only two

1017
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 6: main events against Rick Story and most recently Santiago Ponzinibio

1018
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 6: three round fight here, Ken Flow, Gooder Nelson, Cowboy Olivera?

1019
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 6: Are you gonna pick against Gunny in Ryan Hall's living room.

1020
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 5: You can't do that.

1021
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 7: No, I cannot.

1022
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 8: I can.

1023
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 7: I said, I'm gonna go with goony gooney Nelson. Have

1024
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 7: you seen a picture of this guy recently?

1025
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 5: Look, he doesn't look like the picture we're seeing in

1026
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 5: front of us right now.

1027
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,959
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that, dude, he looks like he's ready

1028
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: to rock. He looks like an absolute savage. Now, Alex

1029
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: Olivera is a savage as well. I think he's another

1030
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: one of those guys that when things get nasty, he's

1031
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: going to be right there trying to kill you. I

1032
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: think he's very dangerous, especially in the clinch. He hits

1033
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: very hard as very dangerous knees. But I think Gunnar

1034
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: Nelson's advantage on the ground is just going to be

1035
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: too great. I think Gunny takes him down, gets positioned,

1036
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: and gets a submission on Olivera.

1037
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,959
Speaker 6: And in terms of the physical transformation, if you're watching

1038
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 6: us on Fox sports dot Com or on YouTube, you

1039
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 6: saw an old graphic of Gunnar Nelson for Kenny's pick

1040
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 6: and for Frank's pick, But man, you should see him.

1041
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 6: Just google Gunar Nelson and see the type of shape

1042
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 6: he's in and some of the muscle mass that he's

1043
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 6: at in advance of this one and probably needs it

1044
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 6: taken on one of the more physically imposing welterweights in

1045
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 6: the division in Alex olivera all right comin event for

1046
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 6: the vacant UFC Women's Flyweight Championship of the World, Valentina

1047
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 6: Chevchenko minus three point thirty in Trench says the favorite

1048
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 6: against Joanna Young j check the plus two fifty underdog.

1049
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 6: She'll try to become the first woman to win UFC

1050
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 6: titles in two different division's enormous fight here, Frank, we

1051
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 6: need to know who wins it and how do they

1052
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 6: get it done.

1053
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 10: So I'm actually really excited about this fight. My wife

1054
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 10: is from Poland and we've done following Joanna's career for

1055
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 10: a super long time, and my wife is absolutely entrilled

1056
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 10: with Joanna. Unfortunately, though, I don't think she's going to

1057
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 10: be happy with me after I make my pick, because look,

1058
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 10: Valentine has been wanting this belt. She's been eyeing it

1059
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 10: down for almost I don't know. I think this is

1060
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 10: a third time now that she should have been fighting

1061
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 10: for this belt. So she's been looking for this opportunity.

1062
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 10: She's been preparing for it all year. Joanna is going

1063
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 10: up and wait to fight someone who's already beater three

1064
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 10: times in kickboxing. So I don't know. I'm not a fighter.

1065
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 10: I can't speak to the mind of what it's like

1066
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 10: to be beaten three times, but I almost feel like

1067
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 10: Yoanna's kind of got a handicap coming into this fight

1068
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 10: knowing that Valentina three times. I know kickboxing is different

1069
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 10: than MMA, but I wonder if there's like a mental

1070
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 10: thing that's going to be in Yoanna's head preventing her from,

1071
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 10: you know, performing best. Last point, joannas knows what it's

1072
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 10: like to be a champion, whereas Valentino really hasn't had

1073
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 10: that UFC gold, So I think there might be a

1074
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 10: little bit more of a fire under Shipchenko. I see

1075
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 10: Yoanna being mobile. I don't think Valentina's gonna be able

1076
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 10: to knock her out or get the submission, but I

1077
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 10: think it's going to go the distance, and I think

1078
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 10: at the end, Gee Russ is going to be raising

1079
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 10: Valentina's hand.

1080
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 5: All right, Frank likes Valentina.

1081
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 6: Chef Chanco to leave Toronto as the UFC Women's Flyway champion,

1082
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 6: so you know, Jchack essentially got this fight early September,

1083
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 6: almost before Nico Montano had left the hospital. The wheels

1084
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 6: were in motion for this matchup. There's obviously a history there, Kenny.

1085
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 6: If you're looking for advantages for youon Jaycheck, perhaps just

1086
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 6: the UFC championship experience. This is going to be her

1087
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Speaker 6: ninth UFC title fight. I know Chevchenko has been a

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Speaker 6: lot of big spots headlining on Fox, but it's only

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Speaker 6: her second championship fight. Vegas has her as a big

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Speaker 6: favorite here, Kenny, how do you see a plan out, John?

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Speaker 1: I would say not only the championship experience, but also

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Speaker 1: her high volumes style.

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Speaker 7: That's how you're going to beat Valentina Schevchenko.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was the difference in Chevchenko's fight against

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Speaker 1: Amanda Nunaz.

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Speaker 7: Nudas was just throwing more strikes, she was staying busier.

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Speaker 1: You want a young j Jack absolutely has the ability

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Speaker 1: to win this fight if she stays busy, and if

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Speaker 1: she stays if she gets off to a good start

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Speaker 1: as well. I think the other thing that we're not

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Speaker 1: taking into consideration is the fact that you want a

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Speaker 1: young j Check at one hundred and twenty five pounds

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Speaker 1: will bring more strength and more energy in that fight

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Speaker 1: and hopefully bring more confidence as well.

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Speaker 7: Now, for Schevchenko, she.

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Speaker 1: Does have the mental advantage having beaten She's experienced that

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Speaker 1: style before and obviously it was in kickboxing.

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Speaker 7: But are we trying to pretend that you want a

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00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 7: young J chick is going to try to take.

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Speaker 8: This fight to the ground.

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Speaker 7: I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: I do think Chevchenko, while she probably will get off

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Speaker 1: to a slow start, she will heat up and pull

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Speaker 1: off a decision win here against you want a young J.

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Speaker 6: Check Valentina Schevchenko for my money, one of the best

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Speaker 6: fighters man or woman on this UFC roster who has

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00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 6: yet to realize the UFC Championship, and a lot of

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Speaker 6: people think that she will end that drowd get it

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00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 6: done this weekend, all right, Frank Finally main event for

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Speaker 6: the UFC Featherweight Championship.

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Speaker 5: About as close as can be on paper.

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Speaker 6: Max Holloway Brian Ortega pick them fight according to US

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Speaker 6: minus one fifteen on both sides. Who wins the UFC

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Speaker 6: Featherweight Championship fight and how do they get it done?

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Speaker 10: This is a super crazy fight, man. I've been so

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00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 10: excited to see this go down for so long. Now

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00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 10: and now they're finally going to do it, hoping that

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Speaker 10: Max actually you know, makes it to the scale and

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00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 10: we get to see this on Saturday. Fingers cross knocking.

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Speaker 10: We're doing all of that shit to make sure that

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00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 10: we get to see this go down. Huh really, man,

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Speaker 10: I think it's a coin flip. I think that if

1133
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 10: you know, if you say you know what's gonna happen

1134
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 10: in this fight, you're wrong. But it's gonna be one

1135
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 10: of those things where afterwards, in hindsight, when we look

1136
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 10: back at it, we're gonna be like, oh yeah, uh,

1137
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 10: like that made sense, kind of like with Connor and Kobbe.

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00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 10: So with Max's you know, UFC or not with Max's

1139
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 10: championship reign. If either way, you know, you think about

1140
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 10: who who's fought, and that's Jose although that's had his

1141
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 10: soul removed by Conor McGregor, maybe maybe not. You know,

1142
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 10: he's had some promising performances after that counterfight. But I

1143
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 10: think that Max really hasn't been tried to the extent

1144
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 10: of Brian Ortega, and similarly, Ortega hasn't really been tried

1145
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 10: to the point of a Max Holloway. They both bring

1146
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 10: amazing techniques and skills to the octagon, And honestly, I

1147
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 10: don't feel good about this pick. But in every single,

1148
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 10: every single time that Ortega steps into that cage, I

1149
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 10: doubted him and I didn't think he'd be able to

1150
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 10: do it. I think Max Holloway is an amazing champion.

1151
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 10: I think he's a great person. But I think that

1152
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 10: Ortega is going to get it done in the second

1153
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 10: round submission victory Brian Orteger.

1154
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 6: All right, Frank Gardito going with Brian Ortega by round

1155
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 6: two submission. Frank, good stuff, man, appreciate you listening. Thanks

1156
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 6: for your time today, sir, We'll talk to you soon.

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00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 10: Thanks. So, I really appreciate the opportunity.

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00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 5: Our pleasure.

1159
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 6: There he is Frank Garddo representing Chicago, Illinois. All right,

1160
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 6: let's get into this a little bit. Ken flow, Max

1161
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 6: Holloway Brian Ortega. I cannot wait to get to Toronto.

1162
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 6: Holloway has won twelve in a row. I'm a little

1163
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 6: bit worried about the fight before the fight for Max, right,

1164
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 6: I'd be lying if I didn't say that. I'd have

1165
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 6: a clearer picture on Friday night. But as for the

1166
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 6: backdrop on this fight, if you don't know you know,

1167
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 6: Brian Ortego was very bothered as to how things went

1168
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 6: down in July when they were supposed to fight. It

1169
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,439
Speaker 6: was UFC two twenty six, Three days out July fourth,

1170
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 6: Holloway diagnosed with concussion like symptoms. Fight was canceled, but

1171
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 6: Jeremy Stevens and others were called to fight Brian Ortagan.

1172
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 6: Ortega didn't want to accept that fight, and I think

1173
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 6: in hindsight you can say that was a wise choice

1174
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 6: because not only is he getting a shot here Kenny

1175
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 6: for the undisputed UFC Fatherweight Championship, but he has language

1176
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 6: in the contract now so that if Pinato Moykana is

1177
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 6: the opponent this weekend, he's still competing for that undisputed

1178
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 6: UFC championship. All of that being said, Max Halloway hasn't

1179
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 6: lost a fight in a very long time. We all

1180
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 6: think it's going to take a special effort to dethrown

1181
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 6: the champion.

1182
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 5: Close fight on paper, can flow? How do you have

1183
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 5: it all right?

1184
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 7: John?

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00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: So listen, I have been doubting Ortega as well. I

1186
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: think he's an amazing champ, amazing fighter. I think his

1187
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: ability to stay composed for out a fight is just amazing.

1188
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: That's probably the best thing that he brings into the

1189
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: octagon on fight night.

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Speaker 7: I do think he has the submission advantage.

1191
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: I do think he probably hits a little bit harder

1192
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: than Max Holloway, but I think as the full package,

1193
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: Max Holloway puts together the better combination. I think Ortega

1194
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: does get hurt sometimes in fight fights early. I think Halloway,

1195
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: with his experience, just he's not going to make those

1196
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: mistakes down the line. I think Halloway wins this by

1197
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: TKO in round four, and.

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Speaker 6: I think that might end up being a sharp side

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00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 6: right because I think that people are going to bet

1200
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 6: Brian Ortega. I think because of the FRANKI Edgar knockout,

1201
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 6: because of the undefeated record, and because of some concern

1202
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 6: about Max Holloway. I wouldn't be surprised to see Brian

1203
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 6: or Tega actually close as a betting favorite here, even

1204
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,240
Speaker 6: though at least on my site, Holloway is slightly favored

1205
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 6: right now. But I think that's interesting and I wouldn't

1206
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 6: be surprised to see it go Max's way. Very close fight,

1207
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 6: can't wait to call it, can't wait to see it,

1208
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 6: and very quickly. In terms of this two thousand and

1209
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 6: eight Main Event challenge. Right, So the punishment is a

1210
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 6: power hour, right, But I saw how how you reacted

1211
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 6: when Daniel Cormier did a shoe right yea, So I

1212
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 6: part of me is inclined to make you do a

1213
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 6: shoey if you lose, But I'm not gonna do that

1214
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 6: because a power hour is just so much more bang

1215
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 6: for your buck, right, I want sixty minutes. I don't

1216
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 6: want you slamming one shoey without spitting it out of

1217
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 6: your shoe, which is probably very clean, and then the

1218
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 6: whole punishment's over in a minute. You know, I had

1219
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 6: to put down a vegemite sandwich. I think I'm gonna

1220
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 6: milk this into a full power hour.

1221
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 7: Honestly, the power hour would be more difficult, probably for me.

1222
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 7: But man, what a whimbi am? I did you see that?

1223
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 7: Just said no to the shoey? I mean, uh yeah,

1224
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 7: I gotta I gotta work on my manly Well.

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00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 6: Well, the only thing I'd say in your defense is

1226
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 6: you have, you know, a nine to ten month old

1227
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 6: at home. You know, I don't think the pediatrician would

1228
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 6: be advocating for her father to start drinking out of

1229
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 6: shoes you know, bring a bunch of germs back to Venice.

1230
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 6: You don't need to be bringing the germs back to Venice.

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Speaker 6: May ROCKYBJJ dot com, by the way, still open despite

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Speaker 6: the fact that Ken Flow is on the Beast Coast

1233
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Speaker 6: with Ryan Hall. Send Ryan our best. My favorite part

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Speaker 6: of the podcast was when Ryan Hall's house cleaner came

1235
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 6: in behind you.

1236
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 5: Unbeknownst to you, it started dusting off the mantle. That

1237
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 5: was amazing.

1238
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, what are you gonna do?

1239
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 6: But we've had a lot of technical difficulties today, so

1240
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 6: we appreciate everybody hanging with us. Hopefully it can all

1241
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 6: get cleaned up, but we got to get the hell

1242
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 6: out of here. Ken Flow wants to go to bed

1243
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 6: I bet, but got to go train and strategize little

1244
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 6: no Ge with Ryan Hall today. So we wish you

1245
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 6: all the best of the matank thank you. Next Monday,

1246
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 6: we will have a new episode out. We'll recap UFC

1247
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 6: two thirty one, perhaps as many as two new UFC champions.

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Speaker 6: Kevin Lee. A lot to get into in less than

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