WEBVTT - Listener Mail: And The Lord Did Grin

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of

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<v Speaker 1>My Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Listener mail. My name is Robert lamp and I'm Joe McCormick.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's Monday, of the day of each week that

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<v Speaker 1>we read back some messages from the mail bag. Rob

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to kick us off today with this

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<v Speaker 1>message about your Monster Fact episode on the Killer Rabbit

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<v Speaker 1>from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>This one comes to us from Daniel. Daniel rides High.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Daniel. I've spoken to you before about burning

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<v Speaker 1>mountains in your Underground Fire episode. I loved your look

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<v Speaker 1>at the Killer Rabbit of Carbana. You said something about

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<v Speaker 1>some herbivores eating meat in some rare instances. When I

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<v Speaker 1>was young, we had pet rabbits in a large enclosure

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<v Speaker 1>along with some parrots that lived in the upper part,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a mix between an aviary and a hunch.

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<v Speaker 1>One morning I found that one of the parrots had

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<v Speaker 1>died during the night and fallen on the floor. The

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<v Speaker 1>rabbits were eating it. I thought it was really weird

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, but I've since seen other herbivores sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>do the same. Anyway, thank you for your show. As

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<v Speaker 1>a radio presenter and producer here in Australia, I know

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<v Speaker 1>how much work it is. Cheers Daniel. Well, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks Daniel. But second of all, I am a little

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<v Speaker 1>suspicious of this story because of the Monty python dead

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<v Speaker 1>parrot connection. That's too much of a coincidence to be real.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean, that's the thing. The more

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<v Speaker 1>you look at reality, you more you realize that that

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<v Speaker 1>Monty python is not that far removed from reality. But

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<v Speaker 1>the point is it's good eating what we we We

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate the story here, Daniel. Yeah, this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>the topic of us that we've discussed in other episodes

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<v Speaker 1>of the show before, not just in this one Monster

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<v Speaker 1>Fact episode. Cases where animals that are you generally might

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<v Speaker 1>might not think about eating meat, will in some cases

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<v Speaker 1>if if conditions are right, we'll definitely chat out on

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<v Speaker 1>some meat. Yeah. I think a lot of animals that

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<v Speaker 1>are considered her befores might be better thought of as

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<v Speaker 1>animals that are not specialized at, not biologically specialized at

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<v Speaker 1>eating meat. But a lot of them can eat meat

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<v Speaker 1>and do sometimes. Um. One of the times I remember

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<v Speaker 1>this coming up was in our episode about the Minotaur

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<v Speaker 1>where we discussed meat eating cows were like cows, they

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<v Speaker 1>would eat chickens and and other things. Yeah, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>yeah that the mythological examples are pretty rich there too,

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<v Speaker 1>uh Man eating horses and Greek tradition, and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of great stuff out there. Oh yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>Heracles had around some of those up right. Alright. We

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<v Speaker 1>got a bunch of messages in response to our series Unwhistling.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do this first one from Kenna, who says, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>Robert and Joe, I recently listened to your Whistling four

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<v Speaker 1>parter and have a new appreciation for some of the

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<v Speaker 1>context behind a show. I recently watched a Chinese drama

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<v Speaker 1>called The un Tamed or chin Ching Ling. In it,

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<v Speaker 1>the main character, a necromancer named way Wu Shan uses

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<v Speaker 1>whistling or his flute to call up various ghosts, fierce corpses,

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<v Speaker 1>or other spirits of Chinese fantasy. Other characters use what

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<v Speaker 1>appear to be more mainstream abilities for shan cha show,

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<v Speaker 1>but the fact that you mentioned whistling is a Taoist

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<v Speaker 1>practice made some of the cultural background click into place

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<v Speaker 1>for me. Secondly, you asked for personal experience with whistling,

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<v Speaker 1>and my family is in the habit of using quote,

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<v Speaker 1>the pony whistle, a truly piercing sound that I can

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<v Speaker 1>only transcribe as I do. How am I supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>read this? Okay, it's like fwu eu EO. That reasonably

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<v Speaker 1>faithful to what I'm looking at here? I guess though, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, is it's supposed to be actually whistled? Right? If?

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<v Speaker 1>If it is supposed to be whistled, Okay, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna skip to the next cent. It's I've never met

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<v Speaker 1>someone else who has a family whistle, but I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>we can't be the only ones. Oh, Kenna, you are not.

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<v Speaker 1>We heard from at least one other person here, so

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<v Speaker 1>so that's coming up. But Kenn, it goes on. My grandfather,

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<v Speaker 1>who seems to be the origin of the whistle, could

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<v Speaker 1>be heard halfway across the county fair or a quarter

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<v Speaker 1>of a mile away at the nearby creek if he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to summon his pack of roving grandchildren. It's also

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<v Speaker 1>a good method for tracking down parents uh seeking shade

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<v Speaker 1>in a crowded theme park, or to double check that

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<v Speaker 1>everyone in your hiking party is nearby. In generations past,

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<v Speaker 1>this sound was apparently used to call in livestock or

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<v Speaker 1>my mother's semi feral ponies. Now it's used to summon

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<v Speaker 1>dogs and children, but only by the older generations of

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<v Speaker 1>the family. A good number of my cousins never seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to have learned how to whistle. Keep up the great work, Kenna.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's really interesting. Yeah, yeah, I mean I never

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<v Speaker 1>had a family whistle. I don't have a family whistle now,

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<v Speaker 1>and the family wasn't a whistling family now. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with this Chinese drama that Kenna mentions here, but

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<v Speaker 1>I pulled it up briefly on IMDb and it looks

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<v Speaker 1>interesting and I may have to check it out. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always looking for a good TV series to view, but

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<v Speaker 1>it does remind me. After we finished the fourth episode

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<v Speaker 1>of the whistling series I was watching, watched a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of things on Hulu, both of which ended up involving whistling.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched the new Predator movie Prey, which which is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun and has I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you remember, but there's some whistling at the very end.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't what I love to pray, I don't recall

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<v Speaker 1>the whistling, What was it? Unless unless this is a

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<v Speaker 1>memory that I created, I believe our main character uses

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<v Speaker 1>a whistle at one point to distract the Predator or

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<v Speaker 1>uses it as a war cry. Um remember the exact context,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's late in the film, sort of in the

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<v Speaker 1>showdown portion. Yeah, okay, Well again, I don't specifically recall that,

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<v Speaker 1>but it seems like it seems plausible it could have

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<v Speaker 1>been there. But it's also definitely used on the Another

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<v Speaker 1>series that's airing on Who's an FX series titled Reservation Dogs,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a great comedy in traumas. It manages a

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<v Speaker 1>nice balance of the serious and the and the comedic.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's some there are some references to uh, inappropriate

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<v Speaker 1>whistling that might summon spirits, which of course is in

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<v Speaker 1>line with multiple folk traditions that we've discussed in those episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's a great tie. And I haven't seen that show,

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<v Speaker 1>but but yeah, the New Predator, I can definitely vouch

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<v Speaker 1>for it. Uh. I never would have expected a deep

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<v Speaker 1>Predator sequel to not only be great, just like a

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<v Speaker 1>great action movie like the first one, but to genuinely

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<v Speaker 1>give me feelings. There's all kinds of like Friendship Feelings,

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<v Speaker 1>Dog Feelings. It's great. Yeah, I thought they really knocked

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<v Speaker 1>it out of the park with that one. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>It's a film that I think I've I've enjoyed all

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<v Speaker 1>the Predator movies that I've seen. I have not seen

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<v Speaker 1>the second a VP movie, but I've seen all the

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<v Speaker 1>rest and uh, and I enjoyed all of them. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I went into this one expecting, Okay, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have a Predator movie set in in an historic time period. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I can go go for that. Uh, it might not

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<v Speaker 1>be good, but at least it will be entertaining. But

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<v Speaker 1>it it went beyond that. For me. I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was just a great film, one of, if not the

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<v Speaker 1>best Predator movies we've had. Oh, totally. And there's a

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<v Speaker 1>bear in it. I keep watching movies with bears in them.

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<v Speaker 1>It should should probably just double down and just seek

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<v Speaker 1>out bear themed films at this point. What's that mutant

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<v Speaker 1>bear movie you keep bringing up? Oh? That's uh what prophecy? Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>is that like an evil bear created by by unholy

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<v Speaker 1>science or something? Um? It is it's I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>an environmental threat movie. I think it's like some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a pollution angle. I actually fired it up not

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<v Speaker 1>too long ago because I was like, yeah, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to I wanna watch a mutant bear movie with Robert

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<v Speaker 1>Foxworth in it. Uh, but I don't know. It starts

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<v Speaker 1>off a little it's it's almost seemed like maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>was a little too good, a little too serious. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think it also opens with like multiple dog deaths.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think they're killed by a mutant bear,

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<v Speaker 1>So like, that's okay. It's if it's not people killing

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<v Speaker 1>the dogs, if it's like a monster bear killing the dogs,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all right, what are you asking me? I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>the boss of people's dog death reactions. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>admit I don't love them, but yeah, I think some

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<v Speaker 1>of them also died from a great fall. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little mixed exactly what's going on. But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It was enough to where I was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if this is this film is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>as fun as I thought it was gonna be. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I'll come back and look at this in another time. Okay, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>next message about whistling is from David, and this ties

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<v Speaker 1>into something can ask about here about family whistles. David says, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Robert and Joe, this is Dave. I was listening to

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<v Speaker 1>your series about whistling, and your discussion of whistling languages

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<v Speaker 1>reminded me of a girl I dated in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>Her mother would whistle the name eames of her Rebecca

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<v Speaker 1>and her sister Emily because the stress pattern on their

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<v Speaker 1>names was so distinctive. Apparently this started when they were

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<v Speaker 1>little and their mother couldn't speak because she was fighting

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<v Speaker 1>throat cancer. She recovered, but the habit stuck. That's wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's amazing, um. Dave goes on, when you were discussing

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<v Speaker 1>the advantages of tonal languages for whistling, this twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>year old memory suddenly came to me. I could see

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<v Speaker 1>how an initial quirk like this could lead to a

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<v Speaker 1>full fledged language. Anyway, I've been enjoying the show for years.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep up the good work, Dave. Al Right, here's another one.

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<v Speaker 1>This one comes to us from Jason. Jason writes in

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<v Speaker 1>and says, in my state and most states in India,

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<v Speaker 1>bus conductors used whistles to signal to the driver to

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<v Speaker 1>stop or move the bus. A single whistle means stop,

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<v Speaker 1>and a double whistle means to move simple yet makes

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<v Speaker 1>it easy for the conductor to communicate with the driver

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<v Speaker 1>even in a heavy, we crowded, noisy bus. Maybe this

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<v Speaker 1>is in use in other countries as well. Continue the

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<v Speaker 1>great work. Oh yeah, that's the cutting through the mixed

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<v Speaker 1>property of whistling that we talked about. Okay, next message.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a response to Weird House Cinema that has

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<v Speaker 1>some really excellent monster science uh going on. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is from Eric, subject line Plan nine Solar night Bomb.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember in Plan nine from outer space. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons that the Aliens think that we're so stupid,

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<v Speaker 1>stupid stupid Earth minds is that we're about to create

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<v Speaker 1>this horrible weapon called the Solar night Bomb, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just going to ruin everything. Uh. And then of course

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<v Speaker 1>the main human hero is like, Yeah, I think we

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<v Speaker 1>should make this bomb that will destroy the universe. It

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<v Speaker 1>would make us stronger as a nation. So onto Eric's message.

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<v Speaker 1>Greetings gentlemen. I loved the episode of Weird House Cinema.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched this film several years ago, but I pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much couldn't pay attention, so I only have some vague

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<v Speaker 1>impressions of Bella Legosy wandering around and cheap graveyard and

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<v Speaker 1>flying saucer sets. You asked a question about the quote

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<v Speaker 1>physics unquote of the solar night bomb, specifically what the

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<v Speaker 1>effective range would be, because remember there's the scene where

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<v Speaker 1>the alien is saying, oh, yeah, so the bomb will

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<v Speaker 1>travel along the rays of sunlight and it will explode

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<v Speaker 1>every particle of sunlight and everything that the sunlight touches.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we're like, well, I mean, you know, rays

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<v Speaker 1>of photons just sort of like go on forever. So

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<v Speaker 1>that would destroy an awful lot. But so, yeah, how

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<v Speaker 1>would that work? Eric says, it really depends on the

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<v Speaker 1>mechanism of the bomb. My first question is what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of particle is exploding? The script I found was a

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<v Speaker 1>bit vague. First Arrow says that quote the rays of

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<v Speaker 1>sunlight are minute particles, and later he says, quote a

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<v Speaker 1>ray of sunlight is made up of many atoms. The

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<v Speaker 1>sun emits a few different kinds of particles. There are

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<v Speaker 1>photons of a ray age of spectra from radio to gamma.

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<v Speaker 1>There's the solar wind, which consists of electrons, protons, alpha particles,

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<v Speaker 1>which are ionized helium nuclei, and trace numbers of other

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<v Speaker 1>ionized atomic nuclei and there are also huge numbers of neutrinos.

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<v Speaker 1>If the solar night bomb causes photons to explode, what

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<v Speaker 1>exactly is the product of the explosion. Photons are essentially

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<v Speaker 1>the fundamental form of energy, so there is no way

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<v Speaker 1>to convert them into more energy. Pretty much all forms

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<v Speaker 1>of explosions give off light to some degree or other,

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<v Speaker 1>and nuclear and thermonuclear explosions give off mostly light, typically

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<v Speaker 1>gamma radiation. Neutrinos would not make sense even though they're

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<v Speaker 1>extremely non interactive. Nature means that there are literally trillions

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<v Speaker 1>of them passing through your body every second. They are

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<v Speaker 1>so ridiculously tiny that even if you converted all of

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<v Speaker 1>the ones passing through your body in a second, it

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<v Speaker 1>would only generate about nineteen nano jewels of energy. If

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<v Speaker 1>you took all of the neutrinos that passed through the

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<v Speaker 1>whole planet and converted them into energy, you would get

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<v Speaker 1>about five hundred kilo jewels, which is about enough to

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<v Speaker 1>power a couple of incandescent light bulbs for an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes more sense if the bomb causes the particles

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<v Speaker 1>of the solar wind to explode. Perhaps it's some form

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<v Speaker 1>of matter to energy conversion that causes all free electrons

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<v Speaker 1>and or ionized particles in a particular area to convert

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<v Speaker 1>partially or completely into energy gamma radiation. The Sun gives

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<v Speaker 1>off about one point five million metric tons of solar

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<v Speaker 1>wind per second, which is equivalent to about one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty five million extra jewels of energy or about

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<v Speaker 1>thirty million giga tons of TNT. That assumes that the

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<v Speaker 1>solar night bomb is exploding a sphere around the Sun

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<v Speaker 1>of approximately one light second in radius. It might be

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<v Speaker 1>a smaller radius. I can't speculate on what the effect

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<v Speaker 1>of such an explosion would do, but even a much

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<v Speaker 1>smaller radius would be at least a couple of orders

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<v Speaker 1>of magnitude greater than the world's nuclear arsenal. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking earth roasting lee powerful. I think you were speculating

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<v Speaker 1>that perhaps the weapon quote charges solar photons to explode

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<v Speaker 1>on contact somehow, Assuming the energy is coming from something

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<v Speaker 1>other than the photons, such as the atom or particle

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<v Speaker 1>it hits, this would be a pretty powerful weapon. The

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<v Speaker 1>Sun gives off roughly ten to the forty four photons

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<v Speaker 1>per second, even if you assume that those photons only

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<v Speaker 1>hit and detonate hydrogen atoms. That's still about a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>quadrillion exa jules or thirty quadrillion gigatons. It would annihilate

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<v Speaker 1>the Solar system, cook most of our section of the galaxy,

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<v Speaker 1>and probably cause cancer to any hypothetical aliens as far

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<v Speaker 1>away as the Magellanic clouds. It would be way worse

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<v Speaker 1>than the supernova. The effects would extend out too much

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<v Speaker 1>of the observable universe, basically anywhere that light from the

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<v Speaker 1>Sun can reach before it crosses the cosmic event horizon,

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<v Speaker 1>the point at which distant objects become unobservable because they

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<v Speaker 1>are traveling away too fast. Yeah, that's what I was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about when I was saying there would be some

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<v Speaker 1>objects that, because of the expansion rate of the universe,

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<v Speaker 1>are now sort of out of reach of the solar

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<v Speaker 1>night bomb. But Eric goes on, although at anything more

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<v Speaker 1>than a few hundred thousand light years, the number of

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<v Speaker 1>charged photon impacts would be so few that it would

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<v Speaker 1>not be distinguishable from ambient radiation. Sorry for the massive

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<v Speaker 1>nerd doubt. I hope it's not too tedious. No, Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>this is great. Um Uh. This was the very first

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<v Speaker 1>weird house movie that I'd actually seen. But I absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>love hearing your takes on these wacky and weird films,

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<v Speaker 1>even when I haven't seen them. All the best to

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<v Speaker 1>you and keep up the good work. Ps. I also

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to mention, in reference to the Whistling episodes, the

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<v Speaker 1>thing brought most to my mind was the kill Bill movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Whistling has used a few different times either to convey

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<v Speaker 1>menace or at least tension, which is very distinct from

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<v Speaker 1>the more traditional understanding of whistling as indicating lightheartedness. Good episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for filling in all the empty nooks and crannies

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<v Speaker 1>in my brain. Eric, Oh this is great. Yeah, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I love of I love a good uh uh like

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, a monster science kind of a journey here,

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<v Speaker 1>And really it shows one of the great things about

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<v Speaker 1>a film like Plan nine from Outer Space is that

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<v Speaker 1>it has the audacity to present a concept like this,

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<v Speaker 1>and and then and then we have to think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have to think, well, how would that even

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<v Speaker 1>begin to work? And and there's there's so much room

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<v Speaker 1>for contemplation, like a a better slash lesser film would

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<v Speaker 1>have just gone with something a bit more established in trope,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like, oh, well, it's just we'll just stop

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<v Speaker 1>at the at the development of nuclear weapons, or it

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<v Speaker 1>will be just just in the next logical progression from

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<v Speaker 1>that instead of this just galaxy destroying technology that surely,

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<v Speaker 1>um like mid twentie century humanity is just a heartbeat

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<v Speaker 1>away from attaining I could see so, like Edward must

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<v Speaker 1>have realized. If the script was just about regular bombs

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<v Speaker 1>and nuclear weapons, it would not emphasize how stupid, stupid,

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<v Speaker 1>stupid our Earth minds are to go all the way

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<v Speaker 1>to the sunlight destroying bomb or else the stupidity of

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<v Speaker 1>our minds is not fully illustrated. Yeah, alright, This next

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<v Speaker 1>one comes to us from Daniel. I assume this is

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<v Speaker 1>a different Daniel, but I don't know for certain. Daniel

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<v Speaker 1>Wrightson and says Hello, First, I love Weird how Cinema

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<v Speaker 1>so very very very much, thank you for making my

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<v Speaker 1>Friday's extra spithy. As I was listening to last Friday's episode,

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<v Speaker 1>I was suddenly struck by the apparent similarity between the

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<v Speaker 1>trailer music for Thrilling Bloody Sword and the theme song

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<v Speaker 1>to the Japanese anime TV show Starblazers Battleship. Yamato is

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<v Speaker 1>the original Japanese title. I thought that sounds much too

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<v Speaker 1>similar to be coincidence, And then I heard you mentioning

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<v Speaker 1>later in the episode that there were other pieces of

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<v Speaker 1>music in the film that sounded very similar to existing songs,

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<v Speaker 1>the U S National anthem being the most bizarre one.

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<v Speaker 1>So I wonder if, in fact, the composer was possibly

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<v Speaker 1>a fan of the Japanese anime show, which predates the

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<v Speaker 1>film by several years. Thank you for both giving me

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<v Speaker 1>and likely basilions of others a fancy treat on Friday, Sincerely, Daniel.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you look this up? Rob? I? Well, I didn't, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but I will say a couple of things, and this,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, it goes without saying. When you dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with trailers, it is not uncommon to find the music

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<v Speaker 1>from other films used in a trailer, like how many?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like there were a number of films that

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<v Speaker 1>came out with the music from Aliens uh in it

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<v Speaker 1>to promote a film that was not Aliens. You know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>stuff gets reused all the time. I think the music

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<v Speaker 1>from what that song from Saw shows up in other trailers?

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<v Speaker 1>I think, and oh, and what's that song from It's

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<v Speaker 1>from Requiem for a Dream. They keep putting in other stuff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some probably some other good examples that I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>not not thinking of off the top of my head.

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<v Speaker 1>But but yeah, often I think sometimes the score for

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<v Speaker 1>a given film isn't ready yet when they're putting together

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<v Speaker 1>promotional material, or they just really really know a certain song,

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<v Speaker 1>a certain track, or a certain piece from another music

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<v Speaker 1>is going to definitely connect with an audience and get there,

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<v Speaker 1>get their attention so you can drive home that they

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<v Speaker 1>need to see this film. I just did listen to

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of seconds of the Starblazers theme, and the

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<v Speaker 1>melody is striking lee similar, except it has lyrics in

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<v Speaker 1>the In the Starblazers version, it's like, you know the

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<v Speaker 1>do do do do do? In this it's saying we're

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<v Speaker 1>off to outer space in the English version. Now another

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<v Speaker 1>issue I do want to highlight, and I didn't. I

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<v Speaker 1>ended up not going into this in the Thrilling, Bloody

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<v Speaker 1>Sword episode. But I did see some user reviews for

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<v Speaker 1>another film that had been UH that that that had

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<v Speaker 1>been apparently scored by the same UH composer, and there

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<v Speaker 1>was in this individual had said, well this this movie

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<v Speaker 1>just straight up uses music from John Carpenter's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to verify that. I found a rip of

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<v Speaker 1>the movie that they were talking about online. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna listen to this, see if I can get

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<v Speaker 1>any notes of the thing. And I didn't. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>find it. I didn't have enough time to relate to

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<v Speaker 1>vote to watching a whole other film just to answer

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<v Speaker 1>this sort of rabbit hole question. But it does at

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<v Speaker 1>least raise the possibility of of maybe unlicensed score reuse

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<v Speaker 1>in some of these films. But I really don't know

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<v Speaker 1>for certain, So I'd love to hear from anyone out

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<v Speaker 1>there who has more familiarity with Taiwanese cinema, Hong Kong cinema, etcetera,

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<v Speaker 1>and and may have thoughts on this. This also brings

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<v Speaker 1>to mind something I don't think we've talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>on the show before, but Master the Flying Didotine from

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<v Speaker 1>nine six is an example of a film that has

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<v Speaker 1>a great soundtrack, but it's like it's taking music from uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, acts like craft Work and Tangerine Dream, And

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<v Speaker 1>I am not personally sure if if those are like

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<v Speaker 1>official uses of those tracks, you know. Yeah, alright, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>on that note, we're out of time. We have more

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