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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of

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Speaker 1: My Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind.

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Speaker 1: Listener mail. My name is Robert lamp and I'm Joe McCormick.

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Speaker 1: And it's Monday, of the day of each week that

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Speaker 1: we read back some messages from the mail bag. Rob

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Speaker 1: do you want to kick us off today with this

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Speaker 1: message about your Monster Fact episode on the Killer Rabbit

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Speaker 1: from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: This one comes to us from Daniel. Daniel rides High.

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Speaker 1: This is Daniel. I've spoken to you before about burning

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Speaker 1: mountains in your Underground Fire episode. I loved your look

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Speaker 1: at the Killer Rabbit of Carbana. You said something about

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Speaker 1: some herbivores eating meat in some rare instances. When I

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Speaker 1: was young, we had pet rabbits in a large enclosure

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Speaker 1: along with some parrots that lived in the upper part,

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Speaker 1: sort of a mix between an aviary and a hunch.

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Speaker 1: One morning I found that one of the parrots had

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Speaker 1: died during the night and fallen on the floor. The

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Speaker 1: rabbits were eating it. I thought it was really weird

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Speaker 1: at the time, but I've since seen other herbivores sometimes

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Speaker 1: do the same. Anyway, thank you for your show. As

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Speaker 1: a radio presenter and producer here in Australia, I know

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Speaker 1: how much work it is. Cheers Daniel. Well, first of all,

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Speaker 1: thanks Daniel. But second of all, I am a little

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Speaker 1: suspicious of this story because of the Monty python dead

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Speaker 1: parrot connection. That's too much of a coincidence to be real.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, that's the thing. The more

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Speaker 1: you look at reality, you more you realize that that

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Speaker 1: Monty python is not that far removed from reality. But

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Speaker 1: the point is it's good eating what we we We

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Speaker 1: appreciate the story here, Daniel. Yeah, this is this is

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Speaker 1: the topic of us that we've discussed in other episodes

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Speaker 1: of the show before, not just in this one Monster

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Speaker 1: Fact episode. Cases where animals that are you generally might

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Speaker 1: might not think about eating meat, will in some cases

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Speaker 1: if if conditions are right, we'll definitely chat out on

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Speaker 1: some meat. Yeah. I think a lot of animals that

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Speaker 1: animals that are not specialized at, not biologically specialized at

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Speaker 1: eating meat. But a lot of them can eat meat

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Speaker 1: and do sometimes. Um. One of the times I remember

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Speaker 1: this coming up was in our episode about the Minotaur

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Speaker 1: where we discussed meat eating cows were like cows, they

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Speaker 1: would eat chickens and and other things. Yeah, yeah, and

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Speaker 1: yeah that the mythological examples are pretty rich there too,

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Speaker 1: uh Man eating horses and Greek tradition, and there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of great stuff out there. Oh yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: Heracles had around some of those up right. Alright. We

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Speaker 1: got a bunch of messages in response to our series Unwhistling.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this first one from Kenna, who says, Hi,

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Speaker 1: Robert and Joe, I recently listened to your Whistling four

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Speaker 1: parter and have a new appreciation for some of the

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Speaker 1: context behind a show. I recently watched a Chinese drama

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Speaker 1: called The un Tamed or chin Ching Ling. In it,

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Speaker 1: the main character, a necromancer named way Wu Shan uses

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Speaker 1: whistling or his flute to call up various ghosts, fierce corpses,

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Speaker 1: or other spirits of Chinese fantasy. Other characters use what

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Speaker 1: appear to be more mainstream abilities for shan cha show,

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Speaker 1: but the fact that you mentioned whistling is a Taoist

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Speaker 1: practice made some of the cultural background click into place

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Speaker 1: for me. Secondly, you asked for personal experience with whistling,

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Speaker 1: and my family is in the habit of using quote,

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Speaker 1: the pony whistle, a truly piercing sound that I can

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Speaker 1: read this? Okay, it's like fwu eu EO. That reasonably

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Speaker 1: If it is supposed to be whistled, Okay, I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna skip to the next cent. It's I've never met

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Speaker 1: someone else who has a family whistle, but I'm sure

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Speaker 1: so that's coming up. But Kenn, it goes on. My grandfather,

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Speaker 1: my mother's semi feral ponies. Now it's used to summon

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Speaker 1: of things on Hulu, both of which ended up involving whistling.

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Speaker 1: I watched the new Predator movie Prey, which which is

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Speaker 1: I don't what I love to pray, I don't recall

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Speaker 1: uses it as a war cry. Um remember the exact context,

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Speaker 1: been there. But it's also definitely used on the Another

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Speaker 1: which is a great comedy in traumas. It manages a

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Speaker 1: But there's some there are some references to uh, inappropriate

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Speaker 1: whistling that might summon spirits, which of course is in

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Speaker 1: line with multiple folk traditions that we've discussed in those episodes.

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Speaker 1: best Predator movies we've had. Oh, totally. And there's a

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Speaker 1: out bear themed films at this point. What's that mutant

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Speaker 1: Foxworth in it. Uh, but I don't know. It starts

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Speaker 1: next message about whistling is from David, and this ties

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Speaker 1: Robert and Joe, this is Dave. I was listening to

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Speaker 1: your series about whistling, and your discussion of whistling languages

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Speaker 1: reminded me of a girl I dated in high school.

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Speaker 1: Her mother would whistle the name eames of her Rebecca

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Speaker 1: would make us stronger as a nation. So onto Eric's message.

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Speaker 1: Greetings gentlemen. I loved the episode of Weird House Cinema.

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Speaker 1: physics unquote of the solar night bomb, specifically what the

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