Speaker 1: Once upon a time, on a cold, dark night on
Speaker 1: the outskirts of Stromitza, a town in Ottoman territory close
Speaker 1: to the border with Bulgaria, a baby's cries were heard
Speaker 1: coming from a small hut inside. Paris gave a Searchev
Speaker 1: wrapped her newborn baby's bloody and vernick's covered body in
Speaker 1: a sheepskin rug and cradled her, while husband Panda watched on,
Speaker 1: his eyes damp with tears as he prayed for a miracle.
Speaker 1: The child, a girl, was two months premature, feeble and wrinkly.
Speaker 1: With her eyes clenched tightly shut, she yawned and wriggled
Speaker 1: in her mother's arms. It was October third, nineteen eleven,
Speaker 1: and with little to their name, Paris Gava Panda had
Speaker 1: no option but to simply hope for the best. But slowly,
Speaker 1: day by day, as Panda rose early each morning to
Speaker 1: work in the fields and Paris Gava stayed at home
Speaker 1: to nurture their daughter, the child began gradually to gain
Speaker 1: her strength. With the parents confident enough that the worst
Speaker 1: was behind them, it was decided finally to give her
Speaker 1: a name, as was the custom. The child's grandmother was
Speaker 1: promptly sent out into the street to ask a passer
Speaker 1: by for a suggestion, and so it was that the
Speaker 1: nameless baby girl became Vangelia, from the Greek meaning bearer
Speaker 1: of good news. In English, they called her Fanger for short.
Speaker 1: If Vanger's entry into the world was a precarious one,
Speaker 1: the next ten years would prove little different. By the
Speaker 1: age of four, she'd lived through two Balkan Wars and
Speaker 1: the burning down for town. The following year, Fanga's mother,
Speaker 1: Paris Gava, died in childbirth along with her baby. After
Speaker 1: five years scraping through together, Fanga's father remarried. A young
Speaker 1: woman named Tanker was due to marry her beloved, a
Speaker 1: Bulgarian soldier, when her parents canceled the wedding at the
Speaker 1: last minute. With the region around Strumitza recently coming under
Speaker 1: the control of the Kingdom of Serbia in nineteen nineteen
Speaker 1: in the aftermath of the First World War, a policy
Speaker 1: of cultural cleansing had been enacted, Tanker's parents were fearful
Speaker 1: that they would all be deported if the marriage went ahead,
Speaker 1: so they offered their daughter to Panda instead. It was
Speaker 1: an awkward, unwanted beginning to a union, but by all accounts,
Speaker 1: they appeared to have made the most of it when
Speaker 1: two years later they welcomed their first child, a brother
Speaker 1: for Vanger named Vassal. While Panda worked as a shepherd
Speaker 1: in neighboring villages that by then eleven year old Fanger
Speaker 1: helped her stepmother to bring up the baby and take
Speaker 1: care of the house. It was a difficult, impoverished life,
Speaker 1: but one that was filled with love. Nonetheless, Fanger, especially
Speaker 1: a bright and sociable girl who remained stoic in the
Speaker 1: face of so much misery, was much loved by all
Speaker 1: who knew her. And then a year later came the
Speaker 1: moment that would change Fanger's life forever, and if the
Speaker 1: stories are to be believed, the lives of many others too.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Unexplained and I'm Richard McClane Smith. In
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty three, Fanger and her family moved a few
Speaker 1: miles east to Novo Cello, trekking By and Cart to
Speaker 1: live with her uncle in his much larger home. Whilst there,
Speaker 1: one bright summer's day, then twelve year old Vanger and
Speaker 1: her two cousins were running an errand to fetch milk
Speaker 1: when they took a detour to a nearby spring. Then
Speaker 1: the world went suddenly dark around them. Looking up, they
Speaker 1: saw that a vast bank of cloud had blotted out
Speaker 1: the sun, like a veil being drawn across the sky.
Speaker 1: Seconds later, a violent gust of wind whipped across the hills,
Speaker 1: pulling at their bodies as it began to coil around them,
Speaker 1: sending clouds of dust corkscrewing into the air. As Vanger's
Speaker 1: cousins screamed and ran for shelter, they could only watch
Speaker 1: in horror as Vanga was slowly lifted from the ground
Speaker 1: and taken high up into the ever growing vortex. When
Speaker 1: an eerie stillness returned to the land, the cousins lifted
Speaker 1: their heads to mind that Fanger had completely vanished. A
Speaker 1: small search party was sent out to find her, and
Speaker 1: an hour later they found the girl lying unconscious in
Speaker 1: a field close to the spring, covered in leaves and
Speaker 1: broken branches. Then she began to stir my eyes, she
Speaker 1: cried in agony, I can't open my eyes. Fanga's face
Speaker 1: was smeared in soil and grit that had been pushed
Speaker 1: so deep into her eye sockets it scraped and scoured
Speaker 1: her eyeballs. At the slightest movement. After being diagnosed with
Speaker 1: severe corneal abrasions, her father, with the help of friends
Speaker 1: and family, miraculously managed to find enough money for an operation.
Speaker 1: For it to work, however, fanger would be required to
Speaker 1: rest and eat healthily. But no sooner had she returned home,
Speaker 1: her father and stepmother had a second child, a boy
Speaker 1: named Tomma. With the family already struggling for money, there
Speaker 1: was no chance of maintaining the diet required for her recovery,
Speaker 1: and now with one more mouth to feed, both Fangua's
Speaker 1: parents had to work, leaving her to look after the babies.
Speaker 1: As the weeks turned to months, Fangus's sight failed to return,
Speaker 1: and by the age of fourteen, it was completely gone
Speaker 1: for ever. With fanguars parents struggling to feed their three children,
Speaker 1: it was suggested to Panda that he sent his daughter
Speaker 1: to the School of the Blind, a charity about five
Speaker 1: hundred kilometers north on the outskirts of Belgrade. Though it
Speaker 1: was painful to leave her family, Fangus soon learned to
Speaker 1: appreciate the opportunity that had been afforded her, being effectively
Speaker 1: the first time she'd ever been to school, she learned
Speaker 1: how to read Braille and how to navigate the world
Speaker 1: independently without her sight. She even fell in love for
Speaker 1: the first time with a fellow pupil named Dimita. The
Speaker 1: pair fantasized about getting married and moving in together, but
Speaker 1: then news arrived from Strumitza. Fanga's stepmother, Tanka, and her
Speaker 1: unborn baby had died in childbirth, just like Fanga's mother.
Speaker 1: Fanga's father requested that she returned home to help raise
Speaker 1: her siblings, who by then included two year old Leubka,
Speaker 1: a sister who'd been born while Vanger was in Belgrade,
Speaker 1: and so after only three years of school, Fanga said
Speaker 1: goodbye to Dimita and returned to Strumitza, where life continued
Speaker 1: much the way it had been before, as Panda worked
Speaker 1: whatever hours he could while Vanga cooked, cleaned, and took
Speaker 1: care of her brothers and sisters, until one day when
Speaker 1: Panda returned, exhausted from work, despairing at his family's plight.
Speaker 1: That night, as Vanga lay in the bed she shared
Speaker 1: with her sister, her father's desperate words echoed through her head.
Speaker 1: As she drifted off to sleep. Through darkness, shapes began
Speaker 1: to materialize, coalescing into the fragmented pieces of an old
Speaker 1: abandoned village, the crumbling ruins of an old fortress standing
Speaker 1: prominently among them. There was a river close by, too,
Speaker 1: and a jagged black rock. Then something glinting in the light,
Speaker 1: gold coins buried under the fortress. Vanguer woke with a
Speaker 1: start the following morning, unable to forget the strange dream.
Speaker 1: When she told her father about it, he thought nothing
Speaker 1: of it at first, but then remembered the tale of
Speaker 1: the nearby village, abandoned many years before after the outbreak
Speaker 1: of a plague. It too had a large fortress and
Speaker 1: a giant, jagged rock just outside its walls. Panda's plans
Speaker 1: to investigate it, however, were curtailed when he broke his
Speaker 1: arm at work, and coming to his senses, he dismissed
Speaker 1: his daughter's unusual vision as nothing but a fantasy. It
Speaker 1: wasn't long after that did Panda returned from work once again,
Speaker 1: tired and embittered, as he explained to Vanger as he
Speaker 1: took a seat at the table, a sheep he'd been
Speaker 1: tending had gone missing, and now he was expected to
Speaker 1: find the money to replace it. Fanger felt for the
Speaker 1: edges of the table as she brought a bowl of
Speaker 1: stew over for her father, then stopped suddenly and turned
Speaker 1: her face toward him. It was a man from Mono's Beethovo,
Speaker 1: she said, a village near by. He stole it. Panda
Speaker 1: looked to his daughter with confusion as she went on
Speaker 1: to explain the man in great detail. The following day,
Speaker 1: her father made the short track to Monospetovo, where, much
Speaker 1: to his astonishment, he found the missing sheep in a
Speaker 1: flock belonging to a man identical to that which Fanga
Speaker 1: had described. With the outbreak of another European war in
Speaker 1: nineteen thirty nine, the Serbian government allied themselves with Hitler's Germany.
Speaker 1: One morning, a then twenty eight year old Fanger and
Speaker 1: her twelve year old sister Lyubka went to collect water
Speaker 1: from the well outside the village of Hamzali, where they'd
Speaker 1: moved at the beginning of the year. As Lyubka drew
Speaker 1: the water, she saw her sister sitting with her face
Speaker 1: turned away from her, seemingly looking into the middle distant
Speaker 1: It's in a peculiar way, Vanger, she said, but Vanga
Speaker 1: didn't reply. Lyubka dropped the bucket and rushed to her
Speaker 1: sister's side, worried that she might be having some kind
Speaker 1: of seizure. Then Vanga snapped out of it and told
Speaker 1: her sister not to worry. She was just talking to
Speaker 1: a man on horseback, she said, who was dressed in
Speaker 1: shining armor and wanted to use the well. Liubka looked about, confused.
Speaker 1: The two of them were completely alone. The following year,
Speaker 1: Fanga's father, Panda, died from blood poisoning, and Vanga and
Speaker 1: her siblings moved back to their home in Stramitza. Soon after,
Speaker 1: Fanga claimed she was visited again by the man in
Speaker 1: shining armor, who came with a message saying that soon
Speaker 1: everything will turn upside down in the world and many
Speaker 1: people will die. The man also insisted that Vanga should
Speaker 1: stay in the village to speak of the living and
Speaker 1: the dead, and that she mustn't be afraid. A great
Speaker 1: war was coming to their home land that would begin
Speaker 1: in April nineteen forty one. A few months later, on
Speaker 1: April eighth, nineteen forty one, the German army marched across
Speaker 1: what was by then the Yugoslavian border and into Vanga's country.
Speaker 1: As words spread that the German army were nearing the
Speaker 1: town of Stramitza. Those who hadn't already left to fight,
Speaker 1: or who had been captured by the German army and
Speaker 1: sent to work camps, hid in barns or cellars, or
Speaker 1: abandoned their homes entirely as they sought shelter in the
Speaker 1: nearby hills and forests, except for the blind Vanger and
Speaker 1: her sister Lyubka, who had nowhere else to go. Before long,
Speaker 1: the ominous roar of armored vehicles and the heavy steps
Speaker 1: of booted feet drew near to their home, until one
Speaker 1: day a German soldier arrived outside and kicked down their
Speaker 1: front door. The young man took one look at the
Speaker 1: pitiful scene inside, and, finding not even food to steal,
Speaker 1: simply left Vanger and Leubka alone. Some time later, a
Speaker 1: neighbor of Fangers appeared at the door, coming to check
Speaker 1: if she and her sister were still alive. Stepping inside,
Speaker 1: she found Fanger standing quietly in the corner. At first,
Speaker 1: Vanger didn't move, Then slowly she turned around and fixed
Speaker 1: the neighbor with an unsettling stare, the whites of her
Speaker 1: upturned eyes seeming to look straight at her. Then a strange,
Speaker 1: unfamiliar voice came from her lips. It spoke of people
Speaker 1: and far off places and seemingly random events. Then the
Speaker 1: neighbor realized Fanga was talking about all the men from
Speaker 1: the village who'd left to fight in the war, revealing
Speaker 1: each of their stories from where they were to whether
Speaker 1: they were dead or alive, and when, if at all,
Speaker 1: they would be coming home. In shock, the neighbor called
Speaker 1: on others to come and witness the miracle for themselves,
Speaker 1: and soon women from all across Dramitza turned up at
Speaker 1: Vangar's door, desperate to know more about their missing loved
Speaker 1: Once a missus Nartanoff came in tears, looking for news
Speaker 1: about her husband Milan, who she hadn't heard from in months.
Speaker 1: Fanga told her not to cry, because Milan was safe,
Speaker 1: albeit tired and hungry. He was hiding in a nearby ravine,
Speaker 1: she said, in nothing but his underwear, having just escaped activity.
Speaker 1: Vanger told the woman to go home and prepare some
Speaker 1: clean clothes and a hot meal for him that night.
Speaker 1: Natinov did just that and sat up waiting for her
Speaker 1: husband to appear, But as the hours went by and
Speaker 1: he failed to show sleep finally overcame her. It was
Speaker 1: sometime around midnight when she awoke to the sound of
Speaker 1: someone knocking against her window. When she pulled back the curtain,
Speaker 1: there stood her husband in the front yard, his pale,
Speaker 1: skeletal figure lit up by the moonlight, all but naked
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Speaker 1: nineteen forty three, Fanger was approached by a stranger and
Speaker 1: told to expect an important visitor with no time for
Speaker 1: airs and graces. She had altered nothing of her home
Speaker 1: when one afternoon, a car pulled up outside and the
Speaker 1: same stranger once again appeared at the door. The man
Speaker 1: then stepped back as another man entered the property, but
Speaker 1: before he could speak, Fanga turned to him sharply and said,
Speaker 1: your power is growing and to spread wide, but remember
Speaker 1: the date August twenty eight. The man then left without
Speaker 1: saying a word. At the sound of a door slamming
Speaker 1: shut and the heavy car driving away Lyubka informed her
Speaker 1: sister that the man was the Bulgarian King Boris the Third.
Speaker 1: About the same time, in the town of Krinsolitza. Dimatar Kushkaroff,
Speaker 1: a soldier in the Bulgarian army, tossed and turned in
Speaker 1: his sleep as images of his brother being brutally attacked
Speaker 1: and murdered flashed before him. Then a face materialized from
Speaker 1: out of the chaos, while he recognized as the blind
Speaker 1: woman he'd heard about in Straumitza. The following day, Dimatar
Speaker 1: paid a visit to Vanger's home, only for her to
Speaker 1: tell him immediately that she knew why he was there.
Speaker 1: He wanted to know who'd killed his brother, she said.
Speaker 1: As Dimatar looked at the woman dumbfounded, she continued that
Speaker 1: she would give him the answer, but only if he
Speaker 1: promised not to seek revenge and allow the justice system
Speaker 1: to do its work. Dimatar agreed, and over the next
Speaker 1: few months he returned often to Vanger's home, intrigued by
Speaker 1: her apparent gifts. Slowly, over time, the pair fell in love,
Speaker 1: and in May nineteen forty two, they were married. Over
Speaker 1: the next year, having now moved across the border to
Speaker 1: petrich in Bulgaria to live with Dimaita, Fanger continued dispensing
Speaker 1: what knowledge she claimed to have about men fighting in
Speaker 1: the war to anyone who came asking for it. It
Speaker 1: isn't quite known what King Boris the Third made of
Speaker 1: their alleged encounter, but as August nineteen forty three came around,
Speaker 1: he found himself in an increasingly delicate position, having concluded
Speaker 1: that he had little choice but to ally himself with
Speaker 1: Adolf Hitler, believing it the safest option for his country.
Speaker 1: He is said to have spent a large part of
Speaker 1: the war resisting Hitler's demands that he deport tens of
Speaker 1: thousands of Bulgaria's Jewish population into the hands of the
Speaker 1: German government. Though many Bulgarian Jews were put into forced
Speaker 1: labor to build roads in Bulgaria, it has been argued
Speaker 1: that this was in fact a ploy to avoid having
Speaker 1: to send them out of the country, with the full
Speaker 1: understanding that to do so would mean almost certain death.
Speaker 1: Boris also resisted calls to send Bulgarian troops to fight
Speaker 1: against the Soviet Union's army, since many Bulgarians supported the nation.
Speaker 1: After being summoned to another meeting with Hitler in August
Speaker 1: nineteen forty three, King Boris the Third returned to Bulgaria,
Speaker 1: seeming a little unwell. On August twenty eighth, the day
Speaker 1: that Fanga is alleged to have warned him about King
Speaker 1: Boris died. Some have suggested that he was poisoned at
Speaker 1: Hitler's request for his refusal to cooperate. As word of
Speaker 1: Vanger's apparent gifts spread throughout the Balkans, more and more
Speaker 1: people came from far and wide to seek her knowledge.
Speaker 1: Some were afraid of the spiky and assertive blind woman,
Speaker 1: believing she was a witch, while others questioned if the
Speaker 1: stories and her predictions were exactly what people said they were,
Speaker 1: But the stories kept coming. In nineteen forty four, Fanga's
Speaker 1: elder brother, Vasil, told his sister that he was leaving
Speaker 1: to join the Yugoslav partisan movement. Fanga begged him not
Speaker 1: to go, warning her brother that he'd be dead by
Speaker 1: the age of twenty three if he did. Meanwhile, Vanga's
Speaker 1: husband Dimita was also sent back to the front to
Speaker 1: fight in Greece. Though he would return, albeit severely ill,
Speaker 1: having contracted malaria, Vasil would not be so lucky. It
Speaker 1: is said that after blowing up a bridge in order
Speaker 1: to hamper the retreating German army, Vasil was tracked down
Speaker 1: by German soldiers to a nearby village. When the villagers
Speaker 1: were given the ultimatum to turn Vasil over or face
Speaker 1: the consequences, the young partisan is said to have given
Speaker 1: himself up, after which he was allegedly brutally beaten and
Speaker 1: eventually shot to death, his body left to rot in
Speaker 1: the open as a warning to any others who might
Speaker 1: feel inspired by his actions. Vasil, just as Vanguer had
Speaker 1: apparently warned, was twenty three when he died after the war,
Speaker 1: As Vanger's fame continued to grow, she soon came to
Speaker 1: the attention of paranormal researchers. One afternoon, a young scientist
Speaker 1: named Georgi Lozonov traveled to Vanger's home to find a
Speaker 1: crowd of almost three hundred people milling about outside. Many
Speaker 1: had come on a pilgrimage simply to get a glimpse
Speaker 1: of the avowed mystic. When Lozonov's turn to speak with
Speaker 1: her came, Vanguer turned to him in her inimitable way,
Speaker 1: her eyes now kept permanently shut, and said, you're a doctor,
Speaker 1: and you've come to test me. Lozonov smiled with disbelief.
Speaker 1: Lozonov would go on to lead a Bulgarian government funded
Speaker 1: laboratory known as the Institute of Suggestology and Parapsychology, and
Speaker 1: devoted a large part of his career to investigating the
Speaker 1: possibility of clairvoyance. He would become famous for developing a
Speaker 1: process that he termed suggest Apedia, which, according to Lozonov,
Speaker 1: enabled people to learn a second language at a faster
Speaker 1: than average rate. What brought him most joy in his
Speaker 1: professional career, however, was Vangor. Over twenty years, Losonov continued
Speaker 1: to visit her to record the many predictions she made
Speaker 1: about all manner of people, and claimed that roughly eighty
Speaker 1: percent of them could be considered accurate. By the nineteen sixties,
Speaker 1: Baba Vanger, as she would come to be known, was
Speaker 1: a much loved iconic figure in Bulgarian society, who was
Speaker 1: even said to have been placed on the government payroll
Speaker 1: as a member of the civil service for her services
Speaker 1: to the people. After her husband Dematar died in nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty two, she entered a permanent state of mourning and
Speaker 1: was rarely seen without a black shawl clasped around her head.
Speaker 1: Fanger often said that when she met with a stranger,
Speaker 1: she was struck instantly by a reel of footage playing
Speaker 1: out the entirety of that individual's life in her mind.
Speaker 1: It was from this that she drew her apparent knowledge
Speaker 1: and predictions. Other times, she claimed that invisible creatures whose
Speaker 1: origin she couldn't explain, communicated the information to her within
Speaker 1: human voices. Many continued to question her apparent psychic abilities,
Speaker 1: with some even speculating that these invisible creatures were in
Speaker 1: fact the Bulgarian state intelligence agency, who fared information to
Speaker 1: Fanger in return for money. With this information, as is claimed,
Speaker 1: she was able to fool people into thinking she knew
Speaker 1: things about them that she couldn't possibly know. Once she
Speaker 1: had them on side, she could then extract more information
Speaker 1: about the individual to pass on to the intelligence agency.
Speaker 1: More recently, Fanger has become known for a string of
Speaker 1: extraordinary global predictions, such as apparently predicting the attack on
Speaker 1: the Twin Towers in New York on September eleventh, two
Speaker 1: thousand to one, and the destruction wrought by the two
Speaker 1: thousand and four Indian Ocean earthquake and soon army. It
Speaker 1: is also said that she predicted Barack Obama's presidency and
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump's presidency would mark the beginning of the
Speaker 1: end for America. Further to this, she is also said
Speaker 1: to predicted that Europe would cease to exist after twenty
Speaker 1: seventeen and President Putin of Russia would become lord of
Speaker 1: the world. The fact that such claims tend to appear
Speaker 1: first on Russian message boards suggest there is good reason
Speaker 1: to question their validity. In August nineteen seventy six, Baba
Speaker 1: Vanga was visited by Yugoslav superstar the singer and actor
Speaker 1: Sylvana Armenelich, who was on tour in Bulgaria at the time.
Speaker 1: Fanga rarely asked for any money for her predictions, but
Speaker 1: Sylvana insisted she wanted to give her something. No, replied
Speaker 1: the blind woman, you don't have to pay anything. I
Speaker 1: don't want to talk to you. Go now and come
Speaker 1: back in three months. Wait, actually, you won't be able
Speaker 1: to come. Two months later, the thirty seven year old
Speaker 1: Sylvana performed in Belgrade with the Serbian National Orchestra. Afterwards,
Speaker 1: she and her twenty five year old sister, who was
Speaker 1: five months pregnant at the time, decided to get an
Speaker 1: early night and planned to drive home in Sylvanah's car.
Speaker 1: Mire drag Yassevitch, the head of the Serbian National Orchestra
Speaker 1: was tired too, and offered to drive them. Roughly thirty
Speaker 1: minutes later, with the Assovich at the wheel, Sylvana's forward
Speaker 1: grenada feared across into the opposite lane and plowed headlong
Speaker 1: at a hundred and thirty kilometers an hour into a
Speaker 1: truck coming the other way. The entire front part of
Speaker 1: the car disappeared under the front of the truck, killing
Speaker 1: all three passengers on the spot. By nineteen ninety six, Babavanger,
Speaker 1: now eighty four years old, was suffering from breast cancer,
Speaker 1: tired and weary from life. In July, it is said
Speaker 1: that she made the prediction that she would die on
Speaker 1: August eleventh. The following month, almost completely incapacitated by the cancer,
Speaker 1: she was moved to a hospital to receive palliative care.
Speaker 1: On the morning of August eleventh, Vanger requested to be
Speaker 1: bathed and dressed in a clean set of clothes. When
Speaker 1: the process was finished, she lay back on her bed
Speaker 1: and held her face to the ceiling. Now I'm fine,
Speaker 1: she said. Then, at just after nine am, she claimed
Speaker 1: to see people in the room with her, her family
Speaker 1: and loved ones from the mother she'd lost at only
Speaker 1: four years old, as well as her father and her
Speaker 1: beloved Dimita. They've come for me, she said, as she
Speaker 1: made movements with her hand as though she were stroking
Speaker 1: the head of a young child. And then, at ten
Speaker 1: am on the day she predicted, Baba Vanger died. If
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