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<v Speaker 1>Hell, Hi Suck At Dating with Dean, Vanessa and Jared

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<v Speaker 1>and I Heart Radio Podcast. Hello, Hello, Hello everyone, Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for joining us on yet another episode

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<v Speaker 1>of help I Suck at Dating. I'm Dean Ungler, joined

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<v Speaker 1>in studio by Jared Haban and killed that in Droman

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<v Speaker 1>joined Killed in Montreal via face time with Vanessa Grimaldi.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's our sound of applot. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>the hell Vanessa gets a round of applause, not me,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, Mark and Easton are in the studio as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a great episode coming up for you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>We have uh sunny crap. Now you have me Sonny

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<v Speaker 1>saying sunny. She goes by Sunny for short, you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not sunshine. Shan is gonna be joining us in studio.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk about Jared, who just made a trip

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<v Speaker 1>down to Mexico to celebrate one of the best things

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<v Speaker 1>on this planet, which we call love. And we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to just kind of get an update on where everything

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<v Speaker 1>else is at and maybe the answer some emails. I'm pumped.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be a great episode, and let's start with Jared. Jared,

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<v Speaker 1>so you just came back you're looking very tann And actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you mentioned that I made sure I laid

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<v Speaker 1>out in that son. Well. Yeah. So it was announced

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<v Speaker 1>that christ and Chris still from Bachelor in Paradise, who

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<v Speaker 1>got engaged last year, got married in Paradise this year,

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<v Speaker 1>and Ashley and I were very lucky to make the

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<v Speaker 1>trip down there and witness, uh would witness their marriage,

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<v Speaker 1>witness their nobody's paying attention to me, and witness their

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<v Speaker 1>their matrimony, their matrimony. Thank you, that's the word I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking for. Look beautiful. She did look beautiful. The picture

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<v Speaker 1>came out on People magazine. His talks was awesome. I

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<v Speaker 1>was actually looking at his tucks and then I turned

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<v Speaker 1>to Ashlyn and I said, that's exactly how I want

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<v Speaker 1>to look at our wedding because it was so form fitting.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing about that, though, is maybe his form

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<v Speaker 1>is just a better look than yours. I choose not

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<v Speaker 1>to believe that. Dean. Wait, are you keeping are you

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<v Speaker 1>key be in your suit my talks? Yeah, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm keeping it. So it's yeah, you can get formed.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, so I'll be formfitted. And then his was

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<v Speaker 1>as well, and Crystal looked beautiful and it was a

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<v Speaker 1>really nice ceremony. Obviously, I can't really give too many

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<v Speaker 1>details away because it will be airing later this this

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<v Speaker 1>summer on Bachelor in Paradise when it exactly airs, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, but you spill any deeds about Bachelor in

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<v Speaker 1>Paradise that you can share. Um, all I can say is, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>to be fair, I don't even know what the hell

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the love, But what I feel like i'm okay

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<v Speaker 1>to say is that I did see maybe some people

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<v Speaker 1>that are down in Paradise forming or not forming some relationships,

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<v Speaker 1>really know how to sit on offense, don't you? So?

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<v Speaker 1>I we we may have seen some people. You saw fireworks,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not talking about the ones in the sky.

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<v Speaker 1>We could have seen some fireworks or people who are

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<v Speaker 1>currently experiencing fireworks, and then maybe some people who are

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately not experiencing fireworks. Right now, that that's not a

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<v Speaker 1>teaser that encourage you to watch Bachelor in Paradise, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what is, because they should really hiring me,

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<v Speaker 1>hiring me as their marketing manager at this point, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure you're in a weird spot because, like you want

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<v Speaker 1>to obviously be able to talk about it, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can because it's gonna be airing on TV in three

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<v Speaker 1>months exactly. So, but it was announced that we were

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<v Speaker 1>at the wedding, so we I can say, hey, I

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<v Speaker 1>was there to witness it. They got married. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a really nice ceremony. It was a lot of fun um.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's not the only news coming out of the

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor world, the fact that Chris and Crystal got married

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<v Speaker 1>down in Paradise. But they released some of the cast.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you guys see this? This cast, I think is

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<v Speaker 1>the probably the best looking cast. Why do you say

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<v Speaker 1>that they're all so beautiful? I know that's Dean and

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<v Speaker 1>I were on Paradise. Okay, I'm sorry, I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 1>the women are. I will say, looking at this cast list,

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<v Speaker 1>the women drastically outperformed them out. Well all right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>well let's talk about the men first. Let's do that.

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<v Speaker 1>So the first man that I see is Blake Hortsman,

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<v Speaker 1>who we knew that came you love Blake? Yeah? Okay, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>what else we got, Chris? Are your friends with Chris Bukowski?

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<v Speaker 1>Well Bukowski was on We'll hold let's talk about Blake first.

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<v Speaker 1>So Blake was on number two on becka season. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a big name coming in. Everybody expected him to

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<v Speaker 1>be in Paradise. He is in Paradise. Blake was on

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<v Speaker 1>the show, was off the show for a full year,

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<v Speaker 1>and then came back to Paradise. He lived a lot

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<v Speaker 1>in that year, And yeah, you know, especially you're coming

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<v Speaker 1>off the show, you kind of get the celebrity status,

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<v Speaker 1>especially some of them like Blake, whose second you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure picking up women is a lot easier obviously, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so maybe that cross some issues going into Paradise.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows, really, who knows what could come, but it

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<v Speaker 1>should be very interesting. But I've hung out with Blake.

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<v Speaker 1>I like Blake as a person. Um, so we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows, you know, a lot of people are shipping

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<v Speaker 1>Blake and Hannah ge super hot in her cast photo.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah there's hand and g in her red bathing suit

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<v Speaker 1>by the pool. It looks like she's been a swimsuit

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<v Speaker 1>model for five years at least since eighteen apparent, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean with the most age appropriate John Paul Jones looked

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<v Speaker 1>like siblings show was there. She do look like siblings,

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<v Speaker 1>brother and sister. Maybe that will be a nice bachelor

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<v Speaker 1>in Paradise. Twist John Paul Jones. Vanessa, Let's let's play

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<v Speaker 1>this exercise, Vanessa, Let's say you didn't have an amazing boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>Which of these guys, just based off their cast photo,

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<v Speaker 1>would you be most interested in? Oh god, okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>there's once you look through it and then I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>going to quickly announce it was so blake for the guys.

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<v Speaker 1>It's blake. Uh. Cam also from uh from Handed season.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, Cam was the one who quote unquote trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get the pitty Rose, which I think was I

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<v Speaker 1>actually don't agree with that pitty rose thing. That not

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<v Speaker 1>not from his end, but he never said pitty rose. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>long story Chris Pokowski, who's kind of a veteran. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you guys know who Chris Pokowski is not? Who's that? So?

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Pokowski was originally on Emily Maynard season, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he tried to get on Andy Dorfman season but she

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<v Speaker 1>did not allow him on. Then he was on two

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<v Speaker 1>seasons or excuse me, he was on Bachelor Pad. Then

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<v Speaker 1>he was on Bachelor Paradise the guy I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>that's the guy I was gonna pick. Oh yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he was on my season of Bachelor in Paradise

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<v Speaker 1>season two, and that was his fifth fifth season, I believe.

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<v Speaker 1>So when my first season in Paradise, he was known

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<v Speaker 1>as like the veteran and he came in, came in

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<v Speaker 1>for one night, got really drunk, and left. And then

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<v Speaker 1>on TV he announced his retirement from reality TV. They

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<v Speaker 1>had like this whole ceremony and they like raised his

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<v Speaker 1>jersey to the banner and I forgot his jersey was

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<v Speaker 1>like a you know, a Paradise button down, so they

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<v Speaker 1>raised it up in the rafters. He was retired, and

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<v Speaker 1>then and then the cast got announced in boom, Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Pokowski back. He's got some piercing eyeball. He looks cute.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a good looking man. He was. He was fourth

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<v Speaker 1>on Emily season. We also have differ an actor. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>an actor. I can see that, like kind of I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna get it. Anyways, Derek Derek's on here too,

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<v Speaker 1>So Derek Peth. We all know Derek. Probably he was

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<v Speaker 1>on Joseusons cast vote as well. Yeah, really laws some

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<v Speaker 1>weight maybe. Well. Derek is known because he was engaged

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<v Speaker 1>to Vanessa's good friend Taylor. How do you feel about

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<v Speaker 1>Derek being down there, Vanessa, I just, um, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't picture Derek as someone who would go back

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<v Speaker 1>into the franchise. Why do you say that because he

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<v Speaker 1>had a bad experience the first time around? He did

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<v Speaker 1>He don't feel like he had a bad experience. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it just sounds like, I mean, he obviously got engaged

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<v Speaker 1>and the engagement didn't work out. Yeah, but that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess when I when I had met him with Taylor,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like he was just not you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like cool with not being part of the franchise anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>or just didn't you know, I wanted to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to work and like do his own thing. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're surprised to see him there because it seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like he wanted to disassociate. Yeah, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>it was disassociated, but I just felt like he was

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<v Speaker 1>happy with, you know, having being a part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I guess, I'm I'm surprised that he's back on.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, listen, for me, there's no hard feelings

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<v Speaker 1>because he did nothing to me, so I don't want anyway. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>did he do anything He did you do anything to

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<v Speaker 1>your friend? Yeah, that's a good question. No, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>my story. Can we have Taylor on the podcast? Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we did have Taylor on the podcast. I know that,

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<v Speaker 1>but this was before obviously her fiance was announced on

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<v Speaker 1>this season of Paradise. Do you think if how about

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<v Speaker 1>this an open an open invitation, if Tyler wants to

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<v Speaker 1>come in the podcast and talk about she's about the

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to Oh yeah, of course, if she's open and

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<v Speaker 1>willing to talk about you know, but I think she's

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<v Speaker 1>so over is she's like in a happy relationship, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think she also wants to disassociate her, disassociate herself

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<v Speaker 1>from from franchise. Well that's very fair, Okay, So next

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<v Speaker 1>up we have Clay Harbor. Clay was the football player

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<v Speaker 1>on Beckett season who left. He like heard himself. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you guys remember this brooke his wrist? Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he had to leave. Now he's also pretty known because

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<v Speaker 1>him and Angela had an off camera relationship as like

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<v Speaker 1>a mini bachelor. That sounds so obnoxious. I can't believe

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<v Speaker 1>I almost just said that as like a bachelor couple.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost said mini bachelor couple, which is I want to

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<v Speaker 1>slap myself because the words almost a camera out of

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<v Speaker 1>my mouth. Um, but like a bachelor couple offcame. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like stroking the mic. I don't know what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Why were you stroking your what's up with up on

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<v Speaker 1>Dean Day. I'm just hanging out. We were just doing something.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's going on over here. So that.

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<v Speaker 1>Um So, he had an off camera relationship with Angela

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<v Speaker 1>that ended up obviously not working out, which is why

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<v Speaker 1>he's back in Paradise. We have John Paul Jones, my favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big JPJ guy. He seems funny. He seems

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<v Speaker 1>really funny. I loved his intro when he came out

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, Hi, my name is John Paul Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>My friend called me John Paul Jones, so you can

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<v Speaker 1>call me John Pone Jones. I'll see you inside. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna forget, no, not at all. Um So, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>excited to see what he's going to be like in Paradise.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like he's going to be a fan favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>We have Kevin forton Berry, who I don't know much about.

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<v Speaker 1>He's on hand of season this year. He's lucky he's

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<v Speaker 1>there because he could definitely use a tan based off

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<v Speaker 1>this photo. Very pale, poor guy he is. He's just

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<v Speaker 1>he's listening, you know. The son is just reflecting right off,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think a little bit. And then well, Wills

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<v Speaker 1>was on their Wills. I know, I'm really excited that

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<v Speaker 1>Wills is back on their Wills. Was on Becca Becca

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<v Speaker 1>K season and then he was on Paradise last year,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was only there around like a week or so,

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<v Speaker 1>I think. Um, so I'm really hoping Wills hits it

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<v Speaker 1>off with somebody. We're all rooting for him here, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So Vanessa, remove the boyfriend from the equation, just based

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<v Speaker 1>off of the pictures alone, who do you think would

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<v Speaker 1>you be most interested in, at least talking to you

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<v Speaker 1>down there? Well, I had said Chris Bosh. Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 1>cute in his picture. I probably go for him too,

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<v Speaker 1>because he looks older. Um yeah, And I had no

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<v Speaker 1>idea who he was, so I was intriguing. Now and

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<v Speaker 1>he's a good he's I've met him a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 1>I really like Chris. I think he's a good dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems yeah. Maybe, I mean I'd let him her own

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<v Speaker 1>mista's yeah, why not. Now for the women, the first

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<v Speaker 1>one announces Analyse Puccini I've never seen last name written

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<v Speaker 1>out before. This is the first for that. No. So,

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<v Speaker 1>Analyse was on our season, she was on Paradise last

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<v Speaker 1>year and now she's back for another round. I really

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<v Speaker 1>like Analyse. I'm rooting. She's very sweet. She just desperately

0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:27.080
<v Speaker 1>wants to be in a relationship. This is her third

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<v Speaker 1>go at it. I believe third go at it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think so. She's a beautiful woman. She has great

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<v Speaker 1>in her picture, she's a beautiful woman in person. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really rooting for Analyse. Then we have Bibiana, who I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really know, but actually yeah, oh yeah, you know. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>she's like she's just so cool and um, she's confident

0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:54.400
<v Speaker 1>and she just has like such great energy about her,

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<v Speaker 1>which which is why I'm so confused why she's single

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<v Speaker 1>and why she's back on because I mean, if I

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<v Speaker 1>were a guy, she had a boyfriend for a hot minute,

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't have a boyfriend. I don't know what happened

0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:07.959
<v Speaker 1>with that, but she is just I mean, my god,

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<v Speaker 1>she's studying Dean. Wouldn't you date her? No? I would not.

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<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't No. I can't be I can't. I honestly

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<v Speaker 1>can't sit here and say I'm a baby fan because

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<v Speaker 1>of my boy Peter. Oh, I forgot about that. Sides

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<v Speaker 1>to a stories, you only heard one. No, you're absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with everything with with that statement. She's a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful girl. She maybe is one of them, if not

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<v Speaker 1>the most attractive girl to come out of the franchise.

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<v Speaker 1>Say for Vanessa, but obviously you know one of my

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<v Speaker 1>really good friends, and Peter and her had the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't really go so well. And so, like Vanessa said,

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<v Speaker 1>I've only heard Peter side of things, and because of that,

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<v Speaker 1>even if things went well between them, I wouldn't be interested,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, it's bro code. Yeah, that makes sense.

0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Bibion is definitely a fan favor. I'm surprised she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>stick around in Paradise last year longer. I remember thinking

0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:57.920
<v Speaker 1>she left way too early, So I'm hoping she sticks

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<v Speaker 1>around for a while here. Then we have Allen Miller

0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:04.920
<v Speaker 1>keys uh Now. Kalin is On was on Colton season.

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<v Speaker 1>She was fourth or fifth after hometowns um and she

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<v Speaker 1>was a fan favorite, little controversial because it was like

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<v Speaker 1>the beauty queen fight between her and Hannah b who

0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:24.080
<v Speaker 1>obviously ultimately became the Bachelorrette um So I'm excited to

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<v Speaker 1>discover more about Klin because I feel like she kind

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<v Speaker 1>of got a little bit of a bad rap um.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think she came off the best on the Bachelor,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm excited to see more of her in Paradise

0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.520
<v Speaker 1>and see what she's like. And then, yeah, she seems cool.

0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:44.480
<v Speaker 1>And then Demi Demi obviously a fan favorite. Demi Burnett. Uh,

0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.280
<v Speaker 1>she was on Colton season ironic. Their last name is

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<v Speaker 1>Burnett Burnett because she's a blonde. She's like a platinum

0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:55.360
<v Speaker 1>white blonde. Well it's not Brunette's Burnett, but close enough,

0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.199
<v Speaker 1>I guess. Uh, So Demi was a fan favorite. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>she's probably gonna stir up some crazy is down in Paradise.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know who's really going to stir up some

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<v Speaker 1>craziness in Paradise. Is the next one on the list,

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<v Speaker 1>Hannah Geyah. Every guy who goes down there is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be all over her, all over handag. She's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the number one for every guy. Right, you

0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:16.600
<v Speaker 1>can already see it. I mean, yeah, I think every

0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:18.439
<v Speaker 1>guy that goes down there, especially like the later rivals

0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:21.000
<v Speaker 1>with date cards, because you know, she's obviously gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>coupled up with pretty quickly, you would imagine, because guys

0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:25.520
<v Speaker 1>are gonna be pining for her, she's gonna get She's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to like juggle a couple of people at

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<v Speaker 1>first until she really settles on who she wants. And

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<v Speaker 1>then yeah, so like the guys that are coming down

0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:35.920
<v Speaker 1>with date cards are probably gonna askr it''s gonna be awkward, intense.

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<v Speaker 1>She seems like a sweet girl. I bet she She's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be in spots where she wants to say no

0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:41.080
<v Speaker 1>but kind of says yes because she's just too kind,

0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:43.520
<v Speaker 1>and hopefully that helps her, Like, hopefully that doesn't put

0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:46.520
<v Speaker 1>her into trouble. You know, I don't think it will.

0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:50.240
<v Speaker 1>I think she's gonna be really popular and then hopefully, yeah, hopefully.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I know a lot of people are shipping her

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<v Speaker 1>and Blake, so I guess we'll see how that all

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<v Speaker 1>hands out on Paradise. Everybody's expecting them to be a

0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:01.480
<v Speaker 1>big couple down there. Then we have Jane a favor book.

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<v Speaker 1>Favor book. Yeah, I'm not gonna be gonna try that one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a difficult one. Um, she's from Colton season I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna sound like a jerk here. I don't remember her

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<v Speaker 1>from Australia or something. I agree. When I first saw

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<v Speaker 1>a picture, I thought, oh, yeah, they're bringing in somebody

0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:21.440
<v Speaker 1>from a different Bachelor for you, kind of like what

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<v Speaker 1>they did with Winter Games. And we were wrong. She

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<v Speaker 1>was on Colton season season to make a very lasting impression,

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<v Speaker 1>so hopefully. But there's a lot of night wonders. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>look at the grocery Storge Joe. You know, I don't

0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:35.480
<v Speaker 1>know if the growth the night wander, but no, you know,

0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.360
<v Speaker 1>grocer stor Joe gone. Night one came into Paradise obviously

0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:43.800
<v Speaker 1>huge name. I remember Vinny dj uh from Jojo season,

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<v Speaker 1>Vinceane it wasn't really that well known from his season

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<v Speaker 1>of the Bachelorette and then became pretty much like a

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<v Speaker 1>fan favorite on Paradise. And honestly Wells too. Wells wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>really that well known on I mean he he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really gain a lot of popularity until he went to Paradise.

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you guys remember Wells on JoJo's season, he

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<v Speaker 1>was the awkward guy who didn't know how to kiss Jojo.

0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:11.480
<v Speaker 1>He like he was on Now I know I'm looking

0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:14.160
<v Speaker 1>at him now, you know, sex symbol that guy. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we have Katie Moore and who was on

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<v Speaker 1>Colton season. And Katie's notoriously known because apparently Kaylin and

0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Cassie said something on the season that Katie overheard, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it was all this drama. Do you remember that

0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:29.920
<v Speaker 1>at all? We're no. It was like apparently like Caitlin

0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.640
<v Speaker 1>and Cassie were saying they wanted to be yeah, they

0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:34.360
<v Speaker 1>want to be bachelor. At Katie heard it. There was

0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:38.040
<v Speaker 1>all this drama. Katie is a beautiful girl, one of

0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:43.360
<v Speaker 1>the more most beautiful eyes you'll ever see striking, So

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<v Speaker 1>she's gonna be very popular down there. Then we have

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<v Speaker 1>Nicole Lopez Alvar. She cried a lot on Colton season.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that. Yes, she's really pretty. It looks like,

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<v Speaker 1>judging by this picture that I see pretty girl from Miami. Um. Yeah,

0:16:57.680 --> 0:16:59.560
<v Speaker 1>she was like she cried a lot on Colden season.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks like she'd be from Miami. You know, she

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<v Speaker 1>looks she's at the look Miami yummy yammi um will

0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Smith come on? Uh? So then we also have on Yeka.

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<v Speaker 1>Now on Yeka is known because actually her Nicole had

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<v Speaker 1>a field on Colton season. I remember just there was

0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:17.600
<v Speaker 1>like a big argument. They were fighting. So I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>those two would be fighting within the Paradise uh Sands

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<v Speaker 1>this summer. We also have Sydney. I'm not even gonna

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<v Speaker 1>attend her last name. I'm so bad with names. Twaco,

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<v Speaker 1>look Twaco, maybe something like that. I think something like

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<v Speaker 1>Sidney L Dude, I'm so bad at pronouncing names. It's

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<v Speaker 1>pathetic when we have Sydney from Cold season that we

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<v Speaker 1>have Tasha, who's third on Colton season. She's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a popular one. There's beautiful girl. She's so well composed

0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:46.800
<v Speaker 1>and she's so well spoken. Yes she is. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing on Colton season. And then Will's like

0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:52.480
<v Speaker 1>we talked about earlier, well that the cast, so same exercise.

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<v Speaker 1>Vanessa chose Chris just based off the cast photos. Who

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<v Speaker 1>would you be most interested in if you were not

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<v Speaker 1>with Ashley? Who I be most interested in? That's a

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<v Speaker 1>great question. Um, probably Tame too. You'd say Katie. I

0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:15.560
<v Speaker 1>think I think Katie. Yeah, Katie's a beautiful girl, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say Katie. What about you? Who would you say?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like I said, if I didn't know anything

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<v Speaker 1>about any of them and there was no bias whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>It'd be Biby. It'd be Bibby. Yeah, look AT's stunning.

0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:33.399
<v Speaker 1>Literally got done saying safer Vanessa. She might be one

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<v Speaker 1>of the moose beautiful girls in the franchise. So what happens?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you would what if Peter heard this podcast and

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<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, bro, don't worry about it, go for

0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:43.840
<v Speaker 1>go for Bibby. I think that he would have no

0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:47.720
<v Speaker 1>issue if I pursued Bibbie. I don't think that that's

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<v Speaker 1>something that I would feel comfortable doing, though, knowing that

0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:52.439
<v Speaker 1>they have a history a and it's just like, is

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<v Speaker 1>the history that intense? Is it that much of a history?

0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Or is it the fact that they were like news

0:18:57.480 --> 0:18:59.040
<v Speaker 1>articles and stuff written about the two of them? I

0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:01.120
<v Speaker 1>think kind of, you know, it wasn't necessarily their fault

0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:03.439
<v Speaker 1>for creating the history. Well, but the public side of

0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:06.600
<v Speaker 1>it totally changes the fact. I agree with you there.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the exercise there was just for the cast

0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:11.080
<v Speaker 1>volts alone. Like you know, Bybye obviously is a beautiful girl.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's where that would come from. But um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it'll be it'll be in paradise. If I

0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:19.800
<v Speaker 1>were a guy, I would pick Bibby and um and

0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:25.320
<v Speaker 1>Tasia mm hmm, yeah, yeah, I mean can't wrong with

0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:27.800
<v Speaker 1>any of them. I mean they're all beautiful and beautiful.

0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:31.440
<v Speaker 1>It's such a good cast. Everyone is so good looking. Yeah,

0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:33.439
<v Speaker 1>so that should create a lot of drama down there.

0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:34.960
<v Speaker 1>So I think we're all very excited to watch Bachelor

0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:36.960
<v Speaker 1>in Paradise this summer. It's really it might be one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite shows. I'm not even gonna lie. I

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<v Speaker 1>know I'm biased we were on the show, but in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of the entertainment value, it's really I guess that's

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<v Speaker 1>because you also know what goes on behind scenes and

0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:50.560
<v Speaker 1>how lax it is compared to Bachelor and Bachelorette. Yeah,

0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:53.040
<v Speaker 1>it's just a lot. I just like it because there's

0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:56.440
<v Speaker 1>always people coming, there's always always people going. There's there's

0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:59.080
<v Speaker 1>flip flops, and then there's people you know in a

0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:01.639
<v Speaker 1>relationship and then you know, girl walks down and the

0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:03.639
<v Speaker 1>guys like, well, I'm going I'm gonna ask her on

0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:05.800
<v Speaker 1>a day and take a chance, and then it's just

0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:07.959
<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit more self deprecating too, and a

0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:10.239
<v Speaker 1>lot funnier. I like that aspect of it that they

0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:13.240
<v Speaker 1>don't take it as seriously because I think, listen that

0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:14.920
<v Speaker 1>the concept of going on a TV show and trying

0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:17.639
<v Speaker 1>to meet the love of your life is very weird

0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.080
<v Speaker 1>in general. So I like how Paradise kind of accepts

0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:22.399
<v Speaker 1>that and owns it, leans into it, leans into it,

0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:25.560
<v Speaker 1>and it makes such a compelling TV show for me

0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:27.760
<v Speaker 1>that I I look forward to this time of year

0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:30.359
<v Speaker 1>every year. And I also gotta admit I really like

0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:32.960
<v Speaker 1>the casting of Bokowski and Derek Path because I like

0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:35.360
<v Speaker 1>I like that they're throwing some old school guys in there,

0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:37.760
<v Speaker 1>because it makes it a little bit more fun, because

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. I want to see the young cast

0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:42.000
<v Speaker 1>who just came off a hand of season in Colton

0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:44.080
<v Speaker 1>season on there because they're popular and I want to

0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:45.800
<v Speaker 1>see them get a second chance of love. But I

0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:48.240
<v Speaker 1>also kind of like seeing, you know, guys and girls

0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:50.520
<v Speaker 1>that come from previous seasons who you haven't seen in

0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:53.760
<v Speaker 1>a while, and you're like, oh, like Bakowski, it's like,

0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:55.919
<v Speaker 1>holy crap, yeah that was four years ago he was

0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:58.439
<v Speaker 1>on Paradise. It's kind of like, I don't know, it

0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:01.000
<v Speaker 1>makes it feel weird that they're on season six and

0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:03.960
<v Speaker 1>you were on season two, seasons two and three. Is

0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:06.280
<v Speaker 1>it weird that they're already season six and you started

0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:09.040
<v Speaker 1>on two. Yeah, it's weird. Actually, and I were talking

0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:13.320
<v Speaker 1>about this. This was our fifth straight year uh taking

0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:16.560
<v Speaker 1>a trip down to Paradise, which was insane. This year, Yeah,

0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:18.760
<v Speaker 1>this year we went down to Port de Viotra and

0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:20.840
<v Speaker 1>we saw christ and Crystal get married. Last year we

0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:23.400
<v Speaker 1>went down there got engaged. Year before that we went

0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:25.320
<v Speaker 1>down there, Vanessa. You were there as well, Carly and

0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Evans wedding, and then the year before that was Bachelor

0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:29.720
<v Speaker 1>in Paradise season three, and then the year before that

0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:33.000
<v Speaker 1>was Bachelor Paradise season two. Oh my god. It every

0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:38.240
<v Speaker 1>year was a different relationship. Yeah, so five years in

0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:41.040
<v Speaker 1>a row. It's pretty insane how impactful that place has

0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:43.560
<v Speaker 1>been for us every year. I mean, we're super grateful

0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:45.760
<v Speaker 1>for it. We just feel really lucky that they keep

0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:48.959
<v Speaker 1>asking us back sometimes. I was actually thinking about this yesterday.

0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:50.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we kind of hit the lottery in

0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:52.840
<v Speaker 1>a weird way, you know, absolutely, and then it's like

0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:54.440
<v Speaker 1>going back on the show, it's kind of like you're

0:21:54.480 --> 0:22:00.639
<v Speaker 1>just replaying the same numbers and just winning a smaller amount. Yeah, no,

0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:03.640
<v Speaker 1>we did with a lottery, like are the time all

0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:06.000
<v Speaker 1>three of us came into the Bachelor franchise, it was

0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:10.960
<v Speaker 1>just I feel like people were they still are, They're engaged,

0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:13.800
<v Speaker 1>people are interested. The popularity of the show only continues

0:22:13.840 --> 0:22:17.159
<v Speaker 1>to grow. And I think also, let's be honest, Instagram

0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:19.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of changed the game for everybody within this show

0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:21.880
<v Speaker 1>and we came into a time where I think we're

0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:24.639
<v Speaker 1>both all of us kind of trying to just figure

0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:26.960
<v Speaker 1>out what the hell Instagram was. And if you think

0:22:26.960 --> 0:22:29.879
<v Speaker 1>about it, the lucky the Bachelorette is the reason that

0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:32.359
<v Speaker 1>I be able to live in a van. Yeah, and

0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm great, Well Bachelor I and Bachelor in Paradise, well yeah,

0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:37.199
<v Speaker 1>but I'm just saying Bachelotte was the reason I did

0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Bachelor in Paradise, which is reason ID Winter Games, which

0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:41.080
<v Speaker 1>that then allowed me to have the ability to move

0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:43.760
<v Speaker 1>into a van. Totally have this podcast. Thanks Bachelortte for

0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:46.440
<v Speaker 1>having this podcast. It really is like I I mean,

0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:49.120
<v Speaker 1>it's not like I don't think, you know, they're perfect,

0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:51.520
<v Speaker 1>But by no means am I ever not grateful for

0:22:51.920 --> 0:22:54.879
<v Speaker 1>the franchise and everything they've done for us. Sometimes sometimes

0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:57.280
<v Speaker 1>I get upset, like when I do those interviews, you know,

0:22:57.400 --> 0:23:00.320
<v Speaker 1>like totally when relationships are fick I think. I yeah,

0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:02.480
<v Speaker 1>it's easy to get bad news and be like, oh

0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:04.520
<v Speaker 1>this sucks, but then like, if you really sit down

0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:06.960
<v Speaker 1>and reflect on it, we can't be anything but grateful.

0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:12.080
<v Speaker 1>So totally, they've given us a lot, including this this podcast. Um,

0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:14.640
<v Speaker 1>but uh, well, I think we've also done a pretty

0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:16.600
<v Speaker 1>good job. We've we we've all worked hard as well,

0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:18.879
<v Speaker 1>so let's give ourselves a little credit there. Um, but

0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:21.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm super excited. So Bachelor in Paradise, this log is

0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:24.680
<v Speaker 1>pretty exciting. I'm sure more cast members will be announced

0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:28.000
<v Speaker 1>as we get closer, uh to airtime, but we have

0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:30.399
<v Speaker 1>a pretty awesome podcast. We have a show coming up

0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:37.000
<v Speaker 1>with Sunny Shin Sunshine. Sunshine, she goes by Sunny you guys,

0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:41.200
<v Speaker 1>her and Graham handle is literally sunny. That's fair. Actually anyways,

0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:43.919
<v Speaker 1>we are going to have her on next but before that,

0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:48.480
<v Speaker 1>we are going to take one quick break. We have

0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:51.080
<v Speaker 1>a special guest in studio joining us. Sitting right next

0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:54.960
<v Speaker 1>to me. Actually it is Sunshine Shin Sunshine, thank you

0:23:55.000 --> 0:24:02.200
<v Speaker 1>so much for joining us. I really appreciate it. So, Sunshine,

0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:05.399
<v Speaker 1>you are known for being a playmate. Yes, I was

0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:13.480
<v Speaker 1>published two teen in May and that was okay. Got you,

0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:18.760
<v Speaker 1>miss may Well. Congratulations on that, Vanessa, you were Miss April, right,

0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:24.320
<v Speaker 1>I think so like more padded bras for that, I'll

0:24:24.359 --> 0:24:26.680
<v Speaker 1>stop that. I don't know. You posted a pretty racy

0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Instagram yesterday that I look it was not looked. She

0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:34.280
<v Speaker 1>looked azing. Even Ashley allowed me to say, all right,

0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Vanessa looks really good in that picture. Actually signed off

0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 1>on it. Guys. Sometimes, but you've been doing this for

0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:42.680
<v Speaker 1>a while, right with with Playboy, you know what. Um,

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:46.240
<v Speaker 1>I started with botty painting. UM. I was have spotty

0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:51.879
<v Speaker 1>painted lady, I think in two thousand fifteen until the

0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:55.920
<v Speaker 1>last Mindsummer's Pretty um, which he I believe he died

0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:58.560
<v Speaker 1>a few months later. So UM. Yeah, you know, I

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:02.479
<v Speaker 1>definitely had the opportun medea of experience experience seeing some

0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:05.919
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool parties and events. I've always been curious, what

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:09.080
<v Speaker 1>is it like dating for you? Dating? Um or do

0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:11.159
<v Speaker 1>you have a boyfriend or anything? No, you know what,

0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:15.960
<v Speaker 1>It's funny because after UM, I feel like I kind

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:19.639
<v Speaker 1>of went through a spiritual awakening UM. And now I

0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:22.199
<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm at the place where I'm kind of

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:25.359
<v Speaker 1>all about self love and self fulfillment. UM. And it

0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:28.960
<v Speaker 1>may sound a little selfish in a way. UM, but

0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 1>I feel like my cup is like overflowing and right

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 1>now I'm not really willing to share it in a way. UM,

0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:39.520
<v Speaker 1>but I feel like, well, at least I believe like

0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:43.359
<v Speaker 1>if you kind of find yourself, UM, you don't really

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:46.880
<v Speaker 1>quite need anybody else completely young. What was the genesis

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:50.159
<v Speaker 1>of this spiritual awakening? You know, I'm trying to use

0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:52.119
<v Speaker 1>big words today. You know what I think, you know,

0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 1>being around My career really started basically in the basement

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:57.920
<v Speaker 1>of Playboy mancham right, that's where we get painted and everything.

0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:01.720
<v Speaker 1>That was my first the first time I've been exposed

0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 1>to kind of like that l A Graham life, I suppose. UM.

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:09.200
<v Speaker 1>And since then, you know, I lived in Beverly Hills. Um.

0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:12.639
<v Speaker 1>You see a lot of people with a lot of wealth, UM, fame,

0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:17.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, everything that people think that they may want.

0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:22.639
<v Speaker 1>I started actually, UM, I was an assistant from for

0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:27.520
<v Speaker 1>a very famous UM Instagram person who I feel like

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I should not name, but UM, so I got to

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 1>travel a lot. I travel the world, UM, and it

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:38.480
<v Speaker 1>was it was a great experience. However, I feel like

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:40.880
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, no one's actually really

0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 1>happy UM and their relationship did not last of course. UM,

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, who was this the Instagram couple, well, the

0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 1>the Instagram king. I really I signed the NDA, So

0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I can say we always try to

0:26:57.280 --> 0:27:01.639
<v Speaker 1>get the names out background with this little later on. Um.

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:03.640
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. So at the end of the day,

0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:06.640
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like looking at the outcome of their

0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 1>relationships and UM, it just doesn't it doesn't seem like

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:16.520
<v Speaker 1>a positive experience. Um, they're not really growing from So

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:18.399
<v Speaker 1>for someone in your position, doing what you've done and

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 1>being as beautiful as you are, I feel like you

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:21.920
<v Speaker 1>have to be keeping the guys away with a stick, right,

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 1>you know what. I always feel like you're as safe

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:27.679
<v Speaker 1>as you want to be. Um. And so when I

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:29.440
<v Speaker 1>go out, I feel like I kind of put out

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:31.360
<v Speaker 1>there or where I'm just like, yeah, I don't really

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:34.200
<v Speaker 1>feel like being approached right now. So surprisingly I don't

0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 1>get approach for a lot. No, I don't believe it. No,

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:39.879
<v Speaker 1>it's true. Thing. You guys are way too beautiful to

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:43.560
<v Speaker 1>not get approached. Yeah, I agree, you're you're beautiful. Yeah,

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 1>you're way too It's not bad in today, I know

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:48.159
<v Speaker 1>that's I know that sounds weird. But it's like guys

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 1>typically are really forward when it comes to that kind

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 1>of stuff. They tend to go from my friends. They

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 1>will talk to my girlfriends. Yeah, probably to get to

0:27:57.080 --> 0:27:59.040
<v Speaker 1>talk to you, I would imagine. I don't know. I

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:02.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I um, I guess picking up guys at

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:06.120
<v Speaker 1>bars have never really been my thing because they're you're

0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:08.720
<v Speaker 1>not picking them up, they're picking you are. Yeah, you

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 1>know what. I'm allergic to alcohol, so that's probably a

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:16.880
<v Speaker 1>big factor to So apparently you're more act with more purpose.

0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:18.919
<v Speaker 1>I guess when you're not quite as drunk or at

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 1>the bar doing that kind of stuff. True this year,

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:23.239
<v Speaker 1>I guess I wouldn't really know. I don't know. It's

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:26.679
<v Speaker 1>just interesting to me because, um, I don't know, you know, like,

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:28.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that you still attract a lot of attention

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 1>despite the fact that it seems maybe sometimes guys would

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:34.400
<v Speaker 1>just be intimidated. I guess, But you know what, it's

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:37.720
<v Speaker 1>hard because I don't really perceive myself that way. Um,

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 1>so I don't see what other people see in a way. UM,

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess people tend to look a lot,

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:46.240
<v Speaker 1>but you know, they always do, so you know, you

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 1>just kind of get used to it, UM, So I

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I'm going to talk more about the spiritual

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 1>awakening and how you want to yeah, because it's such

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 1>an interesting journey going from being a playmate to now

0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 1>wanting to connect with millennials and wanting you know, how

0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:03.959
<v Speaker 1>did it so for me when I went to bally

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 1>My It sounds really cliche, but Bally for me kind

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>of changed my perspective on what I eat now and

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 1>like how I connect with people and how I empathize.

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 1>So I guess your experience was living in the culture

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 1>of l A and thinking that, oh, definitely UM. But

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 1>when I was traveling around UM with my former employer UM,

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>we actually went over to bally Um and I really

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 1>feel like it's such spiritual religious grounds. It really did

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 1>inspire me to kind of stick to my path UM.

0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 1>But definitely, for the most part, where propelled me is

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:44.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of m just not wanting the end result of

0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 1>some of the people that I thought for a long

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 1>time I was looking up to UM at least in

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 1>the personal life. You know, as far as hard work,

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Su says, I'm definitely about that, UM, But as far

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 1>as their personal lives, I don't really tend to agree

0:29:57.400 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 1>with the choices that they were making or who is

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 1>this always? I do like how you said, though, from

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 1>from your time in Los Angeles and your time working

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:11.560
<v Speaker 1>for celebrities and there's so much fame and money that

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 1>goes around that you've kind of gone through the spiritual

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 1>awakening because you realize that that's just not the important

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 1>things in life. There's a quote, I know, I'm such

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 1>a loser, but there's a quote by Jim Kerrey. By

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 1>all people, oh, I I think he you know, he's

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 1>well known for going through some somewhat of a spiritual

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 1>awakening right now. And one of my favorite quotes by him,

0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 1>he said that I often said that I wish people

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:34.120
<v Speaker 1>could realize are their dreams and wealth and fame, so

0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 1>they could see that it's not where they're going to

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 1>find their sense of completion in life. And I couldn't

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>agree more with that. I mean, granted, we have, you know,

0:30:42.720 --> 0:30:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Vanessa Dean and myself from just being on the Bachelor,

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 1>a very small taste of what that life is like,

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and I think we can all agree that it's truly

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 1>not as fulfilling as people would probably think it is.

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 1>I I completely agree. Um, I think we we tend

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 1>to ideal lives, um, what we see on TV and

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 1>the image that Hollywood essentially is projecting. And so unless

0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you had like a true l A

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 1>experience or you kind of live you know, in l

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 1>A and it's involved somehow in the entertainment industry, you

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 1>really wouldn't know for sure. Um. And I feel like

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 1>people tend to be like we, we tend to all

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:28.360
<v Speaker 1>be very ambitious, um and before you know it, you

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of like chase this dream. Um. And I feel

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 1>like there's really no into that, you know, and I

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:37.239
<v Speaker 1>feel like we are goals tend to get bigger, and

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 1>we neglect really what's important, really, like what's the desires

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:47.400
<v Speaker 1>of connecting interpersonal connection love? And you know, we don't

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 1>listen to our intuition. We neglect, you know, what's in

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 1>our hearts. Um, you know, in pursuit of wealth and fame. Yeah,

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 1>you get distracted by a lot of things that come

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 1>your way, especially in the entertainment and straight But you've

0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 1>lived quite a life now. You were born in China,

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:06.600
<v Speaker 1>I was, and then you came to United States at

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 1>age seven seven I believe so, Um, I was born

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>in hard being it's a town actually in the middle,

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 1>right in between the Chinese and Russian border. Um so,

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 1>my mother she has a Kasak background, and my father

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 1>he's Chinese. And then where'd you because you didn't move

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 1>to Los Angeles? So a little bit later, right, um

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 1>so we moved over to Florida first. Um I went

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 1>to Florida's state No state tax, love it, Semonose's the

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 1>one comments you have to think about the state of

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 1>It's a big factor. That's a thirty year old speaking

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 1>right there. No state tax, baby, Sunshine. I'm sorry. I'm

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 1>sorry for that. I apologized. I mean, honestly, I would

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 1>never I feel like Florida is just not a place

0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:59.800
<v Speaker 1>where anybody really wants to be. So I apologize, and listener,

0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. Sunshine does not reflect the overall idea of

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 1>what this podcast we're all thinking. I mean, I agree

0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 1>with her, so so okay, but um to bring it

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 1>back to dating, right, because it is a dating podcast. Okay,

0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 1>can you share some like because I'm sure you've been

0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 1>in some weird situations with dating, Right, what's the weirdest

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 1>thing that's ever happened to you? Maybe like on a

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:24.600
<v Speaker 1>date or with a guy that you've been talking to

0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 1>you know what? Um? I think for about a year ago, UM,

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I was seeing someone you know casually, and I feel

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 1>like in l A if you kind of like casually

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:40.520
<v Speaker 1>date someone for you know, a year on and off,

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:43.840
<v Speaker 1>they we tend to think we're like in a relationship

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:48.000
<v Speaker 1>because everything is so temporary here. Um. And at the time,

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I started working for my employer, and so every morning

0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>sometimes I awake Ume get a text from him and says, hey,

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 1>you need to be at the Bourbonk airport now that

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:01.480
<v Speaker 1>yet is taking off in an our path and let's

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:03.760
<v Speaker 1>go right and I will be gone for who knows

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 1>how long and a lot of times I don't know

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:08.840
<v Speaker 1>where I'm going. So so waking up next next to

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 1>someone having to explain to them that you can't spend

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:14.239
<v Speaker 1>a day with them because of these reasons, it was

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 1>it was pretty interesting. So it was a little weird

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:20.840
<v Speaker 1>for me. UM. So after that, I basically said, you know, probably,

0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:23.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you make a choice between career and love,

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 1>then for now I want to focus on me, right.

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:28.400
<v Speaker 1>And is that because you would feel guilty about leaving

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 1>someone that you would be interested in behind. Yeah, and

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:34.719
<v Speaker 1>also because you feel like you know, it's just for now,

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:37.919
<v Speaker 1>it is probably not going to a good place. Um,

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:40.239
<v Speaker 1>it's not really like a discussion that I was trying

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:41.880
<v Speaker 1>to have, you know, I didn't want to have to

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:46.919
<v Speaker 1>explain myself. But I also feel like I shouldn't be

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 1>in a way because you know, I'm doing it for

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:51.759
<v Speaker 1>my job, and yeah, exactly can I can I ask

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 1>you to expand on the idea you said people date

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:58.120
<v Speaker 1>for a year and they think it's temporary. Can you

0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 1>just expand on that? You know? I feel like in

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:04.719
<v Speaker 1>l a, um, everything moves so quickly. Um, and we

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 1>go out, there's you know, beautiful, beautiful people all around us.

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:10.919
<v Speaker 1>So I feel like, in a way, people can get

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:15.759
<v Speaker 1>replaced really quickly. And I've seen that like play out

0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:19.239
<v Speaker 1>in so many scenarios, whether that's a Playboy party, you know,

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 1>or a party at the hills you know. Um, and

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:24.759
<v Speaker 1>people get married and they get divorced within like a

0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:29.279
<v Speaker 1>few months. You see it a lot. Um. So I

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 1>feel like if we start like casually seeing someone for

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:37.720
<v Speaker 1>a prolonged period of time, both parties began to think, oh, well,

0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:40.719
<v Speaker 1>like we're dating, this is like what a relationship is

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:43.279
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be. But we an't know, that's really not

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:47.240
<v Speaker 1>the case. Um. So I feel like in this city,

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:51.480
<v Speaker 1>um we definitely downplay the idea of relationships, downplay them,

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 1>right because paradox of choice, right, we have so many

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 1>options that our fingertips at all times. It makes it challenging,

0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 1>especially in the in the world that playboy world. I

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 1>can only imagine. I've never been to a Playboy but

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine if a guy were to go, there

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 1>would be like heaven for that guy, you know, so

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:07.120
<v Speaker 1>like you're you're dating someone. It could definitely be a

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 1>stress test for a relationship for a guy to go

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 1>to the Playboy mansion. But just I feel like any

0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 1>event in l a revolving around like the Hollywood, you know, see,

0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be dealing with that problem. So for our

0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:24.879
<v Speaker 1>listeners who because you do talk about how your cup

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 1>is overflowing and you have so much self love now

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 1>and you don't really have time to date. So for

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:31.439
<v Speaker 1>our listeners who are in that position where they are

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 1>single but they don't feel that same kind of self

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:36.280
<v Speaker 1>love and they don't have the confidence and they don't

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:41.880
<v Speaker 1>have you know, I guess the same type of confidence

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 1>that you have. What kind of advice can you give

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:46.760
<v Speaker 1>to them to have that self love and not compare

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 1>yourself to other people or other relationships that you do

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 1>see on social media and they seem perfect, but you

0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:54.920
<v Speaker 1>know they're struggling as well well first of all, and

0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 1>you think you see on Instagram is basically byes. Take

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 1>in that pictures and it's a padded bro right right.

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 1>So any lifestyle, UM, any person you see, you know,

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 1>either they had like a lot of surgeries or whatever

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:11.360
<v Speaker 1>it is, their lives are perfect, you know, UM, And

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:13.880
<v Speaker 1>they probably put in they're willing to put in a

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 1>more a lot more time kind of keeping up with

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 1>that Dog and Pony show versus a lot of people

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 1>who are not so into that type of lifestyle. UM.

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:28.800
<v Speaker 1>But most importantly, I think people should like go within

0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:33.640
<v Speaker 1>um instead of putting their dreams and hopes into factors

0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 1>that are outside of them which they can cannot control. UM.

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:38.840
<v Speaker 1>And a good way of going about that is just

0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 1>be your authentic self. UM. Try to be as truthful

0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 1>as you can in any scenario. And it can be

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:48.719
<v Speaker 1>really hard at first, UM because I feel like our

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:51.120
<v Speaker 1>pride and ego tends to get in a way. UM.

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:54.879
<v Speaker 1>But once you kind of overcome that. However, you do

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:56.440
<v Speaker 1>that in your own way. It's going to take a

0:37:56.440 --> 0:37:59.360
<v Speaker 1>little time, but you will begin to see things like

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 1>very different and not compare yourself to other people. Yeah,

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:05.239
<v Speaker 1>it's really hard not to compare yourself. I think it's

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:08.360
<v Speaker 1>also really hard to be fully truthful because as human beings,

0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:12.719
<v Speaker 1>I think we're very indecisive and we kind of get

0:38:12.760 --> 0:38:14.839
<v Speaker 1>confused a lot of the times. And I think that's

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:19.279
<v Speaker 1>where trouble uh comes into the relationship because then when

0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:22.239
<v Speaker 1>you're you're talking about l a relationships where people are

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:24.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, they're looking at you, but they're

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 1>also looking over your shoulder for the next person, and

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:30.120
<v Speaker 1>I think that causes a lot of issues because then

0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 1>people are like, well, is this the person for me?

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:34.399
<v Speaker 1>Because would I be looking at this other person if

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 1>this was my soul mate? And so I think some

0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 1>people inflate this idea of what a relationship is supposed

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:43.480
<v Speaker 1>to be, where they kind of forget that commitment is

0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:46.720
<v Speaker 1>a choice and like you have to continue to choose

0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:49.279
<v Speaker 1>that person every day and that doesn't mean it's going

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 1>to come easy. So one of the things one of

0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:54.520
<v Speaker 1>the things for me, I think not speaking on my

0:38:54.520 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 1>own relationship. It would be such a good house been. Um.

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:04.520
<v Speaker 1>I think it's really important for us all to kind

0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:07.239
<v Speaker 1>of stay in the present, right, um So not to

0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:12.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of meet someone and right away expect commitment or

0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:15.000
<v Speaker 1>see yourself with them five years, ten years, you know,

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:17.120
<v Speaker 1>down the line, you're stay in the present. You have

0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:20.000
<v Speaker 1>a good time, and you look at them without judgment.

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:22.080
<v Speaker 1>And it's so hard, right, and you have to look

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:25.000
<v Speaker 1>at yourself without judgment in a way because in a

0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:28.560
<v Speaker 1>way you might know that they have other options whatever,

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 1>but you have to also kind of be forgiving on

0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:33.879
<v Speaker 1>yourself and say, you know what, I'm here for the fun,

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna stay present, and you know, I

0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:40.600
<v Speaker 1>feel like the person that's meant for me is coming.

0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 1>And if this person is meant for me, then I'm

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna know. That's kind of how I thought about it too.

0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:49.560
<v Speaker 1>It's always like it's funny, actually, I look back to

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 1>how I used to think about these types of things,

0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:52.799
<v Speaker 1>even as a kid, Like this utopic idea where you

0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:54.440
<v Speaker 1>just go about doing everything that you want to be

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:56.120
<v Speaker 1>doing in your life and if someone comes in and

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 1>seamlessly integrates into that being, that's fantastic, right, and that's

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:02.959
<v Speaker 1>why I hear people say things like relationships are compromises

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:05.279
<v Speaker 1>and all though those things, I'm like, well, but I've

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 1>never really thought of it that way. You know, I

0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:08.320
<v Speaker 1>understand there are certain points if you love someone you

0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 1>should compromise for them. Um not you should you have

0:40:11.840 --> 0:40:13.799
<v Speaker 1>to do right. But that's what But that's what I'm saying.

0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:16.040
<v Speaker 1>But then that goes back that that refutes my point

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:17.640
<v Speaker 1>that I was trying to make earlier, where it's like,

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:21.600
<v Speaker 1>if you can love someone, but I think that the

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:23.960
<v Speaker 1>way that I've used like a soul mate or someone

0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:25.600
<v Speaker 1>that I want to spend the rest of my life with,

0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:28.120
<v Speaker 1>like she'll like get upset with me about certain things,

0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 1>but she'll never like ask me to change things about

0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:32.759
<v Speaker 1>myself and vice versa. You know what I mean, yes

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:36.920
<v Speaker 1>and no, Like speaking from my own experience specifically actually

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 1>my fiance, UM, I can't imagine anybody who's more perfect

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:45.520
<v Speaker 1>for me. Having said that, there's so many differences that

0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:48.160
<v Speaker 1>we have in our lifestyle, the things that we want,

0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:51.120
<v Speaker 1>the things that we like doing, and so the idea

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:53.480
<v Speaker 1>I think for someone to say I need to be

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:55.719
<v Speaker 1>in a relationship, you know, with someone who doesn't want

0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:57.960
<v Speaker 1>me to change at all, I think might be a

0:40:58.080 --> 0:41:00.640
<v Speaker 1>naive way to look at it. Not saying your view

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:04.880
<v Speaker 1>viewpoints naive. You're very intelligent, smart, good looking, handsome, sexy

0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 1>man um but uh but you know, going through this,

0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, relationship with actually and the engagement and then

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:14.640
<v Speaker 1>past relationships as well as a younger man and kind

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 1>of looking at the wrongs that I did, I do

0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:21.680
<v Speaker 1>realize now that you have to change a little bit.

0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 1>You do not change the person you are, but maybe

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:26.680
<v Speaker 1>certain aspects of your life that you just you have to.

0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:29.720
<v Speaker 1>It's like, I'm sure Mark can attest this, having kids,

0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:31.680
<v Speaker 1>being married, like there are parts of your life that

0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:34.359
<v Speaker 1>you have to say, well, I have to change because

0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:37.840
<v Speaker 1>if I don't change, then I'm not going to be

0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:40.319
<v Speaker 1>as good as a father or a husband. Bachelor guy,

0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:44.279
<v Speaker 1>husband and dad are three completely different people. I'm just

0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:46.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna keep on doing what I'm doing and if people

0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:49.319
<v Speaker 1>like it, they like it. If they don't like it,

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:51.279
<v Speaker 1>they can't get the hell out of the way. Get Yeah,

0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:53.759
<v Speaker 1>they're just roadblocks. That's that's honest. That's that's like that

0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at things honestly, I understand that maybe that's

0:41:56.560 --> 0:41:59.800
<v Speaker 1>why I'm probably single. That's why my relationships always sail.

0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:01.879
<v Speaker 1>But I'm always just like, look, this is what I'm

0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:03.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna be doing, and I don't really want to do

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:05.839
<v Speaker 1>anything else. Otherwise I would be doing that other thing.

0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:08.960
<v Speaker 1>But you might someday we evolve as humans we evolved.

0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:11.359
<v Speaker 1>I sure hope so. But it's one of the things

0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:13.640
<v Speaker 1>that you don't want to change. I mean, I can't

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:15.440
<v Speaker 1>think of anything specifically, but I'm sure that they're like

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 1>little mannerisms or or or like semantics, things that I

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:21.640
<v Speaker 1>could change on a regular basis to help make someone

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:24.160
<v Speaker 1>like me more for certain reasons. But I just don't

0:42:24.200 --> 0:42:25.759
<v Speaker 1>want to be liked for the reasons that they want

0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:28.239
<v Speaker 1>to like me for. I want to be liked for myself.

0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:30.480
<v Speaker 1>And then I you know, I don't want to say

0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:32.439
<v Speaker 1>they want to compromise on that, and I also wanted

0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:35.839
<v Speaker 1>to be known. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. And

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:38.600
<v Speaker 1>in life you just have to weigh options, right, you know, Hey,

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:40.680
<v Speaker 1>do I want to continue doing what I'm doing because

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:42.319
<v Speaker 1>I like my life and I want to go down

0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:45.319
<v Speaker 1>that path, But it's also might be um. I mean,

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 1>this is a bad word to use, but you know

0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:49.040
<v Speaker 1>that I can think of like selfish of me too,

0:42:49.080 --> 0:42:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Can you do? Can doing doing that? Because I also

0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 1>want a relationship, But those two things don't match up, right,

0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:55.880
<v Speaker 1>So you just, like with anything, you just have to

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:58.200
<v Speaker 1>make it. But I think that I think to Sunshine's point,

0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:00.759
<v Speaker 1>eventually they will match up. I well, you know, I

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 1>think we go through life and eventually we will all

0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:09.000
<v Speaker 1>meet somebody that kind of inspire or push us to

0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:13.240
<v Speaker 1>go on this like self realization journey, which it sounds

0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:16.000
<v Speaker 1>like you know you went through one was your fiance

0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 1>at some point where she kind of inspired you to

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:21.960
<v Speaker 1>go inside and find yourself and and that you did that,

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:24.440
<v Speaker 1>and in a way, I think you you saw it

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:27.440
<v Speaker 1>as a compromise to be with her, but in reality,

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 1>I think she inspired you to become a better person.

0:43:29.920 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 1>So that in a self is a spiritual awakening, and

0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:35.719
<v Speaker 1>we that's what we actually call it. Um. I think

0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:38.520
<v Speaker 1>we just all need to find a person that is

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:42.200
<v Speaker 1>can inspire us, you know, in life. And to go

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:44.480
<v Speaker 1>back to what you both are saying, and to what

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Mark was saying, is that we do evolve as humans.

0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:50.080
<v Speaker 1>So like what you want and need right now, that

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:52.759
<v Speaker 1>could easily change in two years and then that's when

0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:57.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe two, Sunshine, Sunshine's point your life will match up

0:43:57.080 --> 0:43:59.600
<v Speaker 1>to the point of Oh, now is the time where

0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:02.880
<v Speaker 1>I feel ready to commit myself in a relationship and

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:06.200
<v Speaker 1>possibly make some sacrifices that are needed in order to

0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:12.080
<v Speaker 1>be in a healthy and successful you know, relationship, engagement, marriage. So, Sunshine,

0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:14.399
<v Speaker 1>you said your cup was overflowing. At what point does

0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:17.160
<v Speaker 1>that cup stop overflowing and give you space for a relationship?

0:44:17.200 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Just get a bigger cup? Um. You know, I just

0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, look, you know, if IVER come across

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:31.600
<v Speaker 1>the right person at this point, because I'm willing to

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:33.880
<v Speaker 1>see my reality for the way it is, and I

0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:36.440
<v Speaker 1>do continue to live in my truth every day on

0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:39.400
<v Speaker 1>a daily basis, I'm going to recognize that person right away,

0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:42.360
<v Speaker 1>you know. Um. I know it sounds silly, but I

0:44:42.800 --> 0:44:47.200
<v Speaker 1>hear all the time prior to I guess this awakening. Um,

0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:49.400
<v Speaker 1>people would say, you know, when you know, you know,

0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:51.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're gonna know as soon as you look

0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:55.040
<v Speaker 1>in his eyes or whatever. UM. And I never really

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:58.279
<v Speaker 1>believe that, UM, because I think I was trying so

0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:00.759
<v Speaker 1>hard to kind of go down to to close and say,

0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:04.560
<v Speaker 1>does this person have these characters? You know? Whatever it is?

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:08.400
<v Speaker 1>X y Z Um, that kind of satisfy um in

0:45:08.400 --> 0:45:12.600
<v Speaker 1>a sense actually my ego right. Um. But now I

0:45:12.640 --> 0:45:17.640
<v Speaker 1>think I'm so willing to kind of uh lose that

0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:23.000
<v Speaker 1>sense of pride um and not time my own self

0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:27.120
<v Speaker 1>identity on the capabilities of others that I'm willing to

0:45:27.239 --> 0:45:31.000
<v Speaker 1>just be mycent authentic self and say, you know what,

0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:35.120
<v Speaker 1>if I come across this person despite all the shortcomings,

0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:38.439
<v Speaker 1>then I really feel like he's the one, um, and

0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:41.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm willing to you know, change accordingly, I suppose. I

0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:42.880
<v Speaker 1>think something that you just mentioned is actually one of

0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:46.200
<v Speaker 1>my biggest fears as it pertains to relationships, is you

0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:49.400
<v Speaker 1>I would be afraid of losing my self identity as

0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:52.640
<v Speaker 1>well going into relationship because when I see people do that,

0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I get a little upset. Not upset, but I always like,

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:57.759
<v Speaker 1>I always see that, and I'm like, well, okay, I

0:45:57.840 --> 0:46:00.399
<v Speaker 1>definitely don't want that to happen. And so you're saying

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:02.760
<v Speaker 1>that that's something that you obviously don't want for yourself.

0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:07.359
<v Speaker 1>So you know, Um, as far as a self identity thing,

0:46:07.400 --> 0:46:11.360
<v Speaker 1>I think, um, it's so tied up with the idea

0:46:11.560 --> 0:46:14.520
<v Speaker 1>of like the human ego, and and it's actually something

0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:18.640
<v Speaker 1>that we're supposed to you know, willing. We we have

0:46:18.760 --> 0:46:21.880
<v Speaker 1>to be willing to leave behind behind in order to

0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:25.719
<v Speaker 1>like complete our spiritual journey. Right. So it's a really

0:46:25.760 --> 0:46:31.439
<v Speaker 1>interesting um theory because most of us can't imagine um,

0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:35.080
<v Speaker 1>living going on in life without a self identity. Um So.

0:46:35.200 --> 0:46:39.840
<v Speaker 1>But in a way, once you kind of complete that cycle, um,

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:43.279
<v Speaker 1>you don't feel things as competition, jealousy, um hey, and

0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:47.759
<v Speaker 1>so you're being what's left within you is just pure

0:46:47.800 --> 0:46:49.880
<v Speaker 1>love and happiness and joy. I know it sounds like

0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:52.359
<v Speaker 1>a fantasy, but I'm kind of I feel like I'm

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:55.799
<v Speaker 1>getting closer to it every day. Um So, in a way, now,

0:46:55.880 --> 0:46:59.359
<v Speaker 1>what I was saying is that because I feel very

0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:02.440
<v Speaker 1>fulfilled being on my own, I don't expect this person

0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:06.000
<v Speaker 1>to any longer go by what I used to up

0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:11.840
<v Speaker 1>that by my old expectations, um of finding the perfect

0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:14.920
<v Speaker 1>person that fits all of these checkpoints. Right. And it's

0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:17.200
<v Speaker 1>it's funny, I think you stopped looking and almost when

0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:21.120
<v Speaker 1>you're looking in the opposite direction is when something good. Yeah,

0:47:21.200 --> 0:47:24.760
<v Speaker 1>when you look for answers within within right within yourself.

0:47:24.960 --> 0:47:28.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't look for it within like other people.

0:47:28.560 --> 0:47:31.680
<v Speaker 1>It's always when we're at least expecting it. Yeah. Wait,

0:47:31.760 --> 0:47:33.120
<v Speaker 1>did you ever answer the cup question? Are you just

0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:37.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna get a bigger cup or bigger? Um? No, I

0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:40.399
<v Speaker 1>think I think I'm I'm gonna kind of live my life.

0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:42.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I'm not thinking too much about that right

0:47:42.760 --> 0:47:45.640
<v Speaker 1>now because I don't want to project any sort of

0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:48.920
<v Speaker 1>like anxieties about the future. Um. I feel like he

0:47:49.000 --> 0:47:52.600
<v Speaker 1>creates like a lot of unnecessary fear. Um. One of

0:47:52.640 --> 0:47:55.279
<v Speaker 1>my favorite philosophers always says, if we knew everything about

0:47:55.280 --> 0:47:57.280
<v Speaker 1>the future, if we knew everything that was going to unfold,

0:47:57.320 --> 0:47:58.799
<v Speaker 1>we'd already be living in the past, and no one

0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:02.719
<v Speaker 1>wants to live in the Past's absolutely smart, so smart. Yeah,

0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:05.840
<v Speaker 1>you should just taking credit for that quote yourself. What sometimes?

0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:08.080
<v Speaker 1>What's your what are your love languages? You know? How

0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:13.520
<v Speaker 1>do you mean languages? Oh? Well, okay, off the topic,

0:48:14.000 --> 0:48:17.360
<v Speaker 1>we'll rattlem off real quick. There's quality time, physical touch,

0:48:18.080 --> 0:48:22.400
<v Speaker 1>words of affirmation, gifts, and why am I blanking on

0:48:22.440 --> 0:48:25.839
<v Speaker 1>the fifth one? As service? So of those five, which

0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:27.319
<v Speaker 1>of those would be the most important for you to

0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:31.919
<v Speaker 1>receive from from a potential significant other. Um, I think

0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:35.879
<v Speaker 1>acts of service and I'm a very physical person, so

0:48:36.120 --> 0:48:42.759
<v Speaker 1>definitely the physical touch. Okay, we're not arguing. I was

0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:44.880
<v Speaker 1>just curious, Like I said, I don't know, because I

0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:47.200
<v Speaker 1>feel like for someone that's done the things that you've done,

0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:51.080
<v Speaker 1>especially with Playboy specifically. Um, I think Playboy does a

0:48:51.120 --> 0:48:54.600
<v Speaker 1>really good job of keeping everything I guess tasteful, but

0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:57.560
<v Speaker 1>there's still like a certain level of objectification that comes

0:48:57.600 --> 0:49:02.839
<v Speaker 1>along from the from like the less lesser informed audience member. Right. Um,

0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:04.920
<v Speaker 1>and so I've always been curious how that affects people

0:49:05.000 --> 0:49:08.480
<v Speaker 1>in those positions. Um, you know, I guess I can

0:49:08.560 --> 0:49:11.560
<v Speaker 1>only speak for myself. Um. It's really like I said,

0:49:11.880 --> 0:49:15.279
<v Speaker 1>you're as safe as you you choose to be, right. Um,

0:49:15.320 --> 0:49:18.240
<v Speaker 1>so if you kind of like separate yourself from the masses,

0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:20.439
<v Speaker 1>and you're always going to be the black sheep. But

0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'd rather say my truth be different. It's

0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:28.719
<v Speaker 1>fun you stand out. He wants to be a regular

0:49:28.800 --> 0:49:35.600
<v Speaker 1>colored sheep sometimes blending. It's not so bad. Well, Sunshine,

0:49:35.600 --> 0:49:38.200
<v Speaker 1>you are currently writing a book, I am. We're working

0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:42.600
<v Speaker 1>on it. Yeah, yeah, so you know, playing with the

0:49:42.680 --> 0:49:45.880
<v Speaker 1>ideas and everything. So, um, and we should be starting

0:49:45.880 --> 0:49:48.480
<v Speaker 1>with a writing writing process in a few months. Can

0:49:48.520 --> 0:49:50.520
<v Speaker 1>you teach us what the book is going to be about?

0:49:50.960 --> 0:49:57.120
<v Speaker 1>It's basically UM self realization, UM, the journey to awakening

0:49:57.360 --> 0:50:01.240
<v Speaker 1>if you think to the alchemist, UM. But it's more

0:50:01.600 --> 0:50:04.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a story where it's relatable I think in a

0:50:04.040 --> 0:50:07.759
<v Speaker 1>modern world. UM. Yeah, are you going to write about

0:50:07.800 --> 0:50:12.160
<v Speaker 1>your former UM employer or anything like that? Stay tuned.

0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:14.640
<v Speaker 1>We'll just give us a little teaser on that then

0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:17.200
<v Speaker 1>real quick, how I'm just kidding. I think that was

0:50:17.239 --> 0:50:19.640
<v Speaker 1>the teaser right there. I'm just kidding. What else and

0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:21.000
<v Speaker 1>what else are you working on besides the books? And

0:50:21.120 --> 0:50:22.319
<v Speaker 1>I know you probably have a couple of other things

0:50:22.320 --> 0:50:24.760
<v Speaker 1>going on. Yeah, so I'm actually working on the maximum

0:50:24.760 --> 0:50:28.080
<v Speaker 1>cover UM for this year. I hope to get published

0:50:28.080 --> 0:50:30.080
<v Speaker 1>by Datum this year. Thanks well, good luck with that.

0:50:30.120 --> 0:50:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Thank you so much. Well, Sonini, thank you

0:50:32.080 --> 0:50:35.120
<v Speaker 1>so much for joining us. We really appreciate it. For

0:50:35.120 --> 0:50:36.600
<v Speaker 1>our listeners out there, where can they find you on

0:50:36.640 --> 0:50:38.560
<v Speaker 1>social and all that kind of stuff. You can find

0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:43.080
<v Speaker 1>me on Instagram. It's Captain as Sunny. So that's two

0:50:43.239 --> 0:50:47.080
<v Speaker 1>s is okay, great, that's s U and yeah, as

0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:50.719
<v Speaker 1>you so Captain s and then Sonny so as As.

0:50:51.120 --> 0:50:52.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I would have thought it would be.

0:50:52.520 --> 0:50:54.800
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea why you would think about I

0:50:54.920 --> 0:50:57.280
<v Speaker 1>just really embarrassed, Sunshine. Thank you so much. I embrassed

0:50:57.320 --> 0:51:01.480
<v Speaker 1>myself earlier and thank you for coming. So do we

0:51:01.520 --> 0:51:03.560
<v Speaker 1>have emails? Mark? Well? I got this from from Elena.

0:51:03.800 --> 0:51:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh perfect, We love Alena. It's specifically addressed to Vanessa.

0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:08.000
<v Speaker 1>But I think you could all weigh in on something

0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:10.800
<v Speaker 1>like this this past week. The past few weeks, Vanessa

0:51:10.840 --> 0:51:12.760
<v Speaker 1>has mentioned a few times that her boyfriend is Jewish

0:51:12.760 --> 0:51:14.400
<v Speaker 1>and she's Christian, and how they would move forward with

0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:16.759
<v Speaker 1>raising kids if it ever came to that. I come

0:51:16.800 --> 0:51:18.960
<v Speaker 1>from a blended family where my mom was raised Jewish

0:51:18.960 --> 0:51:21.560
<v Speaker 1>and my dad raised Christian. Growing up, my parents gave

0:51:21.600 --> 0:51:24.719
<v Speaker 1>us the opportunity to celebrate both holidays from both religions.

0:51:24.760 --> 0:51:26.360
<v Speaker 1>May even let us decide in our own what we

0:51:26.400 --> 0:51:28.920
<v Speaker 1>believe in. I don't like seeing couples go through hard

0:51:28.920 --> 0:51:31.719
<v Speaker 1>times because of religious differences when I know firsthand it

0:51:31.760 --> 0:51:34.160
<v Speaker 1>can work if both people are open minded, especially if

0:51:34.200 --> 0:51:36.480
<v Speaker 1>this person is your person. That's a landa and I

0:51:36.480 --> 0:51:43.200
<v Speaker 1>really a question, Vanessa, Um, Yeah, no, I I I'm not.

0:51:43.320 --> 0:51:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I think when it comes to my relationship with Josh,

0:51:46.920 --> 0:51:50.920
<v Speaker 1>we're both not extremely religious people, so it doesn't really

0:51:50.960 --> 0:51:54.400
<v Speaker 1>interfere with our beliefs, um. But we're very open minded.

0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:56.000
<v Speaker 1>And that was my thing too. When I was moving

0:51:56.040 --> 0:51:58.600
<v Speaker 1>back to Montreal, it was seven years that I hadn't

0:51:58.680 --> 0:52:00.600
<v Speaker 1>dated anyone from the city because I've a lot of

0:52:00.600 --> 0:52:03.200
<v Speaker 1>people were closes minded. If you're Greek, you stick with

0:52:03.239 --> 0:52:05.520
<v Speaker 1>your Greek community. For your Italian you stick with your Italians.

0:52:05.520 --> 0:52:07.160
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, that was never me. I did one

0:52:07.200 --> 0:52:13.200
<v Speaker 1>Italian and Nami nationalities. I've probably dated a lot of them, um.

0:52:13.280 --> 0:52:15.239
<v Speaker 1>And so when it came to religion as well, I

0:52:15.280 --> 0:52:19.000
<v Speaker 1>was always open to different types of religions because if

0:52:19.040 --> 0:52:21.680
<v Speaker 1>you fall in love that person, you know you can

0:52:21.680 --> 0:52:23.880
<v Speaker 1>try to you can definitely make it work. My only

0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:26.960
<v Speaker 1>thing was if someone that I am dating has a

0:52:27.000 --> 0:52:30.080
<v Speaker 1>different you know, from a different background, of different religion,

0:52:30.120 --> 0:52:32.239
<v Speaker 1>and they asked me to convert in order to get

0:52:32.239 --> 0:52:35.520
<v Speaker 1>married to them. No, Like, if you fell in love

0:52:35.560 --> 0:52:38.040
<v Speaker 1>with me, that means you fell in love with me

0:52:38.120 --> 0:52:40.799
<v Speaker 1>with the religion I was. I was practicing and with

0:52:40.880 --> 0:52:43.400
<v Speaker 1>everything that I was before you got engaged to me.

0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:46.440
<v Speaker 1>So I that's one thing I never really understood. Like

0:52:47.040 --> 0:52:50.560
<v Speaker 1>if I don't know, chime in guys. If no, yeah, totally.

0:52:50.600 --> 0:52:52.960
<v Speaker 1>If you start projecting your religion onto other people, then

0:52:53.040 --> 0:52:56.040
<v Speaker 1>that causes issues, right. But if you if believing makes

0:52:56.080 --> 0:52:58.080
<v Speaker 1>you a better person, and you want to believe and

0:52:58.120 --> 0:53:02.160
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't infringe on anybody else, then I'm absolutely for it.

0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:05.319
<v Speaker 1>I think obviously, like this email talks about, and we've

0:53:05.320 --> 0:53:07.600
<v Speaker 1>talked about in the past, kids change that because you

0:53:07.640 --> 0:53:09.400
<v Speaker 1>want your kids to be raised in a certain way.

0:53:09.640 --> 0:53:12.000
<v Speaker 1>But that's where you have to have serious talks with

0:53:12.040 --> 0:53:14.880
<v Speaker 1>your significant other and figure out what exactly you're going

0:53:14.920 --> 0:53:17.720
<v Speaker 1>to do. And I love this email because, as Elena

0:53:17.840 --> 0:53:20.040
<v Speaker 1>pointed out, both her parents were different religions and she

0:53:20.080 --> 0:53:24.400
<v Speaker 1>grew up celebrating both holidays and really, uh it was

0:53:24.480 --> 0:53:26.560
<v Speaker 1>up to her what she chose to believe as she

0:53:26.600 --> 0:53:29.680
<v Speaker 1>grew up. So I love that. Um, why doesn't seem

0:53:29.680 --> 0:53:31.239
<v Speaker 1>like a religion is such a taboo thing for us

0:53:31.280 --> 0:53:35.960
<v Speaker 1>to talk about? You know? Taboo and politics are religion

0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:40.800
<v Speaker 1>in politics? You mean? Is that what you meant? Yeahs

0:53:41.200 --> 0:53:44.719
<v Speaker 1>taboo and politics? You don't talk about taboo? Wow? Yeah,

0:53:44.840 --> 0:53:48.719
<v Speaker 1>I need to eat. It's almost dis money, Like we

0:53:48.760 --> 0:53:50.120
<v Speaker 1>all have these we have these things that we just

0:53:50.160 --> 0:53:53.600
<v Speaker 1>like go through life. I think religion and politics because

0:53:53.680 --> 0:53:56.279
<v Speaker 1>there's going to be a section of your audience that

0:53:56.360 --> 0:53:59.480
<v Speaker 1>you alienate with your beliefs, and you and you want

0:53:59.520 --> 0:54:01.719
<v Speaker 1>to still be all things to all people. I guess

0:54:01.719 --> 0:54:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking less for our audience and more just

0:54:03.200 --> 0:54:06.640
<v Speaker 1>in regular conversation. Well, I think people. I mean, religion

0:54:06.680 --> 0:54:08.480
<v Speaker 1>is one of the most important things in life to

0:54:08.760 --> 0:54:11.040
<v Speaker 1>a you know a lot of people in this world, right,

0:54:11.080 --> 0:54:13.120
<v Speaker 1>so it's so important to certain people. Why don't we

0:54:13.160 --> 0:54:15.239
<v Speaker 1>all talk about it more openly? Well, because a lot

0:54:15.239 --> 0:54:17.560
<v Speaker 1>of people don't believe what you believe. Like, for example,

0:54:17.680 --> 0:54:20.839
<v Speaker 1>say hypothetically, I was an atheist and you were a

0:54:20.840 --> 0:54:23.560
<v Speaker 1>devoted Christian and I was like, yeah, I think God

0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:26.399
<v Speaker 1>doesn't exist in your entire life you've believed this way,

0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:28.320
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, no, screw you, he does exist. But

0:54:28.400 --> 0:54:30.640
<v Speaker 1>here's my I guess here's my stance with it is

0:54:30.760 --> 0:54:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm agnostic. I border more atheist than I do anything

0:54:33.600 --> 0:54:36.479
<v Speaker 1>other than agnostic religion. But I'm open to the idea

0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:39.719
<v Speaker 1>of belief. But I'm I like having conversations with people

0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:42.279
<v Speaker 1>about religion, especially people that are religious, because I like

0:54:42.320 --> 0:54:44.759
<v Speaker 1>to hear why they're religious. I like to hear what

0:54:44.800 --> 0:54:47.279
<v Speaker 1>they practice and how they believe it. And I just

0:54:47.400 --> 0:54:50.680
<v Speaker 1>I think that people always think that there's always going

0:54:50.719 --> 0:54:52.520
<v Speaker 1>to be an argument that stems from it. But if

0:54:52.520 --> 0:54:54.560
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about things and it's just like an open

0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:57.480
<v Speaker 1>minded conversation, it's not necessarily a bad thing. But not

0:54:57.600 --> 0:54:59.799
<v Speaker 1>everybody's like you, which is that? Trust me? I'm like

0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:03.480
<v Speaker 1>as well. But I've discovered while talking about religion and

0:55:03.480 --> 0:55:06.520
<v Speaker 1>politics openly to people that so many of us get

0:55:06.560 --> 0:55:10.880
<v Speaker 1>so many people just get uncomfortable and hate the topic

0:55:11.200 --> 0:55:16.560
<v Speaker 1>that it's all it does sometimes is breed argument. It's

0:55:16.600 --> 0:55:19.359
<v Speaker 1>an actual conversation, for sure, But at the Dean's point,

0:55:19.400 --> 0:55:21.319
<v Speaker 1>you can learn a lot talking to people who have

0:55:21.320 --> 0:55:24.200
<v Speaker 1>completely different beliefs than you. If it's a respectful conversation,

0:55:24.280 --> 0:55:26.600
<v Speaker 1>it's not going to get angry or offended. It's you

0:55:26.680 --> 0:55:28.319
<v Speaker 1>gotta be careful with it. But I do I find

0:55:28.320 --> 0:55:31.480
<v Speaker 1>it fascinate because it's such a wide range of religious

0:55:31.520 --> 0:55:34.000
<v Speaker 1>beliefs out there. It is kind of interesting to explore

0:55:34.080 --> 0:55:37.400
<v Speaker 1>that totally. Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of I love

0:55:37.440 --> 0:55:39.839
<v Speaker 1>talking about it too, but I think, like Mark said,

0:55:39.880 --> 0:55:41.840
<v Speaker 1>you just kind of have to like gauge your audience.

0:55:42.200 --> 0:55:45.080
<v Speaker 1>It's unfortunate everybody, I would hope would feel comfortable talking

0:55:45.080 --> 0:55:47.040
<v Speaker 1>about it, but everybody just doesn't, right. I just don't

0:55:47.040 --> 0:55:49.319
<v Speaker 1>like sometimes when people feel uncomfortable talking about it with me,

0:55:49.360 --> 0:55:51.319
<v Speaker 1>because I'm like I've gone through the phases of where

0:55:51.320 --> 0:55:53.759
<v Speaker 1>I would like argue to an extent about it, but

0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:55.799
<v Speaker 1>now I'm just kind of curious, especially with the people

0:55:55.880 --> 0:55:59.600
<v Speaker 1>that uh believe it like blindly, and just like it's

0:55:59.640 --> 0:56:02.879
<v Speaker 1>just interesting to hear about why they do that, um

0:56:03.239 --> 0:56:05.680
<v Speaker 1>and and kind of like the path that they've walked

0:56:05.719 --> 0:56:07.399
<v Speaker 1>in life to lead them to where they are now.

0:56:08.000 --> 0:56:10.440
<v Speaker 1>But still even those people sometimes they just don't like

0:56:10.480 --> 0:56:12.960
<v Speaker 1>talking about it, and it's like it's just a conversation.

0:56:13.040 --> 0:56:14.239
<v Speaker 1>It's at the end of it's all it is, is

0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:17.000
<v Speaker 1>a conversation if it's about religion, if it's about politics

0:56:17.040 --> 0:56:18.239
<v Speaker 1>or money. At the end of the day, it's like

0:56:18.280 --> 0:56:20.520
<v Speaker 1>it's all things that we do in our private life.

0:56:20.719 --> 0:56:23.320
<v Speaker 1>But for some reason, I guess for the reason you

0:56:23.360 --> 0:56:25.279
<v Speaker 1>guys all just mentioned, it's a it's a decent enough

0:56:25.320 --> 0:56:29.120
<v Speaker 1>reason to like validate the logic behind it. But it's

0:56:29.120 --> 0:56:31.000
<v Speaker 1>just like we refused to talk about it. People just

0:56:31.040 --> 0:56:33.000
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be challenged with what their belief is

0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:36.319
<v Speaker 1>and not feel me. I think like my grandmother is

0:56:36.320 --> 0:56:38.799
<v Speaker 1>really religious, you know, she's so devoted, But it makes

0:56:38.800 --> 0:56:41.960
<v Speaker 1>sense to her lifestyle, and it makes sense to UM

0:56:42.040 --> 0:56:45.200
<v Speaker 1>the beliefs that she has, and it instill this unity

0:56:45.239 --> 0:56:49.160
<v Speaker 1>in our family. UM And yeah, I think at the

0:56:49.239 --> 0:56:50.600
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, like she doesn't want to be

0:56:50.719 --> 0:56:53.400
<v Speaker 1>challenged with it because that's the way that she was

0:56:53.480 --> 0:56:56.279
<v Speaker 1>growing up and she tried to instill it in with us,

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<v Speaker 1>but we were not very we're not. We don't practice

0:56:59.000 --> 0:57:00.799
<v Speaker 1>it as much as she does. It's just, UM, I

0:57:00.840 --> 0:57:03.160
<v Speaker 1>think it becomes a lifestyle and it becomes like a

0:57:04.120 --> 0:57:06.960
<v Speaker 1>UM kind of like tradition, like why do you celebrate Christmas?

0:57:07.000 --> 0:57:09.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, like why you celebrates there becomes a tradition

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<v Speaker 1>and it becomes something that you do with your family.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess as it pertains to relationships, I would always

0:57:14.640 --> 0:57:18.680
<v Speaker 1>be I would always be remiss if the potential of

0:57:18.720 --> 0:57:22.440
<v Speaker 1>a religion driving the wedge between a relationship, because it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>we should never let something like that drive a wedge

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<v Speaker 1>between two people that might end up liking each other

0:57:26.920 --> 0:57:28.960
<v Speaker 1>when it's just a belief that we were probably taught

0:57:29.000 --> 0:57:32.240
<v Speaker 1>to learn or to believe. Yeah, but it all depends

0:57:32.320 --> 0:57:34.640
<v Speaker 1>again on the person because there are people who are

0:57:35.360 --> 0:57:38.040
<v Speaker 1>born and raised with a certain type of religion and

0:57:38.080 --> 0:57:41.520
<v Speaker 1>believe in it so much that their entire life surrounds it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, so if if, for example, like even something

0:57:44.720 --> 0:57:47.200
<v Speaker 1>as dumb as you know, uh, they're not dumb, but

0:57:47.560 --> 0:57:49.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, getting married in the church versus not getting

0:57:49.760 --> 0:57:52.480
<v Speaker 1>married in church, or like getting a traditional ceremony, or

0:57:52.480 --> 0:57:54.080
<v Speaker 1>how you're going to raise your kids, because some people

0:57:54.120 --> 0:57:55.880
<v Speaker 1>are like my kids are getting raised Christian and you're

0:57:55.920 --> 0:57:57.440
<v Speaker 1>not telling the other words. And I guess you can

0:57:57.440 --> 0:57:59.200
<v Speaker 1>see on The Bachelor d even where Luke p is

0:57:59.240 --> 0:58:01.240
<v Speaker 1>the guy that says he is not gonna have sex

0:58:01.320 --> 0:58:04.200
<v Speaker 1>until marriage, even obviously he's already had sex. But I

0:58:04.480 --> 0:58:06.040
<v Speaker 1>guess that would be like that. How do you know

0:58:06.040 --> 0:58:08.080
<v Speaker 1>he's already had sex? He said that. Yeah, he said

0:58:08.120 --> 0:58:09.920
<v Speaker 1>he was banging girls left and right in college. And

0:58:09.920 --> 0:58:11.760
<v Speaker 1>then God talked to him in the show. That's right,

0:58:11.840 --> 0:58:14.240
<v Speaker 1>that's right. God likes him in the shower. Have you

0:58:14.280 --> 0:58:18.360
<v Speaker 1>been watching hand the season on and off? But God

0:58:18.440 --> 0:58:21.040
<v Speaker 1>spoke to him in the shower, came down and grabbed

0:58:21.080 --> 0:58:23.120
<v Speaker 1>his member while he was in the shower and said,

0:58:23.200 --> 0:58:29.360
<v Speaker 1>stop using this young man anyways. Yeah, not good. That's

0:58:29.400 --> 0:58:31.120
<v Speaker 1>something where it's like if I really liked a girl

0:58:31.200 --> 0:58:33.640
<v Speaker 1>and she said she was saving herself for marriage, that

0:58:33.640 --> 0:58:37.800
<v Speaker 1>would be something It's like, it's a challenging obstacle to overcome. Um.

0:58:37.800 --> 0:58:39.400
<v Speaker 1>But if it's like a practice where it's like I'm

0:58:39.440 --> 0:58:41.280
<v Speaker 1>going to go to church every Sunday and this is

0:58:41.280 --> 0:58:43.120
<v Speaker 1>what I believe and this is how I pray, then

0:58:43.120 --> 0:58:44.920
<v Speaker 1>that's always something that you're like, Okay, that's cool, that's

0:58:45.040 --> 0:58:46.600
<v Speaker 1>part of you. I'm not gonna argue that. I'm just

0:58:46.800 --> 0:58:49.720
<v Speaker 1>I want to get to know more of it. Um.

0:58:49.760 --> 0:58:51.960
<v Speaker 1>And then I guess the tricky thing I can only

0:58:52.000 --> 0:58:54.800
<v Speaker 1>imagine is once you have children, what do you guys?

0:58:54.840 --> 0:58:57.160
<v Speaker 1>What do you do then do with the children? Whose

0:58:57.720 --> 0:59:01.440
<v Speaker 1>ideas are they going to adopt? What? I guess obviously

0:59:01.480 --> 0:59:02.800
<v Speaker 1>that's just such a hard fetched idea for me. So

0:59:02.800 --> 0:59:05.280
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's why I haven't even go there we go

0:59:05.360 --> 0:59:06.840
<v Speaker 1>that's fair. Well, that's a hell of a way to

0:59:06.840 --> 0:59:10.560
<v Speaker 1>wrap up this podcast, if I don't say so myself. Um, Well,

0:59:10.600 --> 0:59:14.680
<v Speaker 1>a big thank you to Sunshine. Shin H Dean is

0:59:14.720 --> 0:59:19.920
<v Speaker 1>already on a nickname basis with her Sunny Sunday. Um.

0:59:19.960 --> 0:59:21.920
<v Speaker 1>She has a new book having out which is very exciting,

0:59:21.960 --> 0:59:24.280
<v Speaker 1>so we'll all be looking for that in the near future.

0:59:24.760 --> 0:59:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Thank you to all of the Bachelor and Paradise cast

0:59:27.520 --> 0:59:32.680
<v Speaker 1>members for providing us with the summer field of drama, romance, laughter.

0:59:33.280 --> 0:59:35.200
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to watch them. We can all watch

0:59:35.240 --> 0:59:38.959
<v Speaker 1>from afar, eat some popcorn, and enjoy. Uh So yeah,

0:59:39.040 --> 0:59:41.440
<v Speaker 1>big thank you to Vanessa for skyping in because you're

0:59:41.480 --> 0:59:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the best and you dominate life. Dean, you're good to

0:59:45.280 --> 0:59:48.160
<v Speaker 1>thank you for joining as always. Uh and I'm Jared

0:59:48.240 --> 0:59:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Haven and join us next week for a no episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Help by Second Dating, where hopefully we suck a

0:59:53.200 --> 0:59:56.600
<v Speaker 1>little less nice. Follow Help by Suck at Dating with Dean,

0:59:56.720 --> 0:59:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Vanessa and Jared on I Heart Radio or wherever you

0:59:59.720 --> 1:00:06.280
<v Speaker 1>listen a podcast. Mmm.