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Speaker 1: Get Up, Get Up, Get Up? All right, what's up,

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Speaker 1: Mets fans? Welcome back to the Mets Up Podcast, Episode

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Speaker 1: number one oh five. Just wrapped up a series we'd

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Speaker 1: probably like to forget about against the Houston Astros. Not great,

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Speaker 1: not great. We will talk about everything that went on

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Speaker 1: during this series as well as guys, give you guys

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Speaker 1: a prospect report because we haven't talked about the prospects

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Speaker 1: in a while. So figure you know, we're with the Mets. Now,

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Speaker 1: let's tell you about the future of the Mets that's

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Speaker 1: coming up in the farm system, as well as preview

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Speaker 1: the Ranger series that will be happening this upcoming weekend.

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Speaker 1: We really do appreciate it. And without further ado, let's

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Speaker 1: bring in James. James, how you feel man as.

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Speaker 2: Well as I could be feeling right now coming off

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Speaker 2: first three games streak in the season. Just got I

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Speaker 2: don't know, just got beat by the Astros two weeks in.

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Speaker 1: Are out. They're really good. The Ashers are a really

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Speaker 1: good team. Spin Zone, Like you said, first three game

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Speaker 1: losing streak of the season. It's June twenty ninth and

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Speaker 1: that has not yet happened. So I know a lot

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Speaker 1: of people are really really ready for the sky is falling.

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Speaker 1: I think we have to remind everyone one, this guy

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Speaker 1: is definitely not falling. And two, the Astros are one

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Speaker 1: of the best teams, not just in the American League

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Speaker 1: and all of baseball. The team is just class top

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Speaker 1: to bottom. They go to the World Series like every year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, like what three of the last like four

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Speaker 1: best organizations in all baseball. So yes, it sucks. It

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Speaker 1: absolutely stinks to lose four in a row to the Astros.

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Speaker 1: I think Gary we saw on the broadcast, is feeling

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Speaker 1: a little bit with the comment of we haven't beat

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Speaker 1: this team in eight years, so like, but you just

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Speaker 1: even that sentence, like you haven't beat this team in

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Speaker 1: eight years, like, of course we don't play them very often,

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Speaker 1: but even just that sentence, like eight years, it's a

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Speaker 1: little daunting. Yeah, but you know this is gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: It's a long baseball season. It did. It wasn't great though.

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Speaker 1: Game one. You want real silver lining, Yeah, give me

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Speaker 1: some Game one? Yeah, thank god? It was only two

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Speaker 1: two games series. I know, my god, a three game

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Speaker 1: series twice against the Astros would feel a whole of

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Speaker 1: a lot different than just losing four in total. That's

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Speaker 1: that's long series.

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Speaker 2: Something like you just got swept for one long series,

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Speaker 2: which kind of makes it more palatable, I guess. And

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Speaker 2: you're not gonna see this team for hope, maybe next

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Speaker 2: year when they even have the schedules, but definitely not

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Speaker 2: the rest of this one until the World Series.

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Speaker 1: See him in the World Series. We'll see you then.

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Speaker 1: But Game one was not great. We've coined the term

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Speaker 1: not I hate using the term, I do, but it's

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Speaker 1: just one a series. It's won a series. Game one

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Speaker 1: was the game. Carrasco from the Rip did not have it,

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Speaker 2: But this whole game kind of came down to the

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Speaker 2: two two looking strikes to start this game. Josel two

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Speaker 1: It's really good. I might it depends on his next

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Speaker 2: Down oh two, he grinded the app battle way back

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Speaker 1: I believe was an outside sly there. Yeah, and it

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Speaker 1: It was a well struck ball. We were also ballparks

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Speaker 1: can't tell as well. I think the big thing here

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Speaker 2: Literally again, the Carrasco first anything was such a big

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Speaker 1: May Park, those crawl for boxes. Yeah. Fregman on the

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Speaker 2: Can I tell you something funny about Bregman hit me,

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Speaker 2: He right now in twenty twenty two almost has twice

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Speaker 1: That's like shocking, right because you would have seen that

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Speaker 2: That's one of the best play in the league. And

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Speaker 2: for everybody listening. Barrel rate is a stat that we'd

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Speaker 2: ever played baseball, just understanding baseball barrel, you really barrel

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Speaker 2: I believe it's either one hundred or hundred five miles

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Speaker 2: Just we have to take a step back and give

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Speaker 2: the Astros credit as probably the best hitting development organization in.

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Speaker 1: All of baseball, definitely one of them. They're incredible.

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Speaker 2: Every single one of these hitters that we're talking about

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Speaker 1: As you guys were.

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Speaker 1: And I was so mad about that play a little,

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Speaker 2: Man, welcome, invite onto the messed up high Yeah whatever,

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Speaker 1: Yeah whatever, you want to come on, d Or, You're

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Speaker 1: that he does in the first inning, doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: show you much, and they saw I believe, fastballs early

435
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Speaker 1: on and they tried to jump on him. We got

436
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Speaker 1: one double. Marte kind of got under it. But I

437
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Speaker 1: like the aggressiveness, especially from Brandon Nimo Like I like

438
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Speaker 1: when he's aggressive. That means he's feeling good.

439
00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,120
Speaker 2: It's hard for me to law the plan that didn't

440
00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,720
Speaker 2: nothing happen afterwards. I like the process process poretically, but

441
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Speaker 2: I don't think it really continued the rest of the game.

442
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Speaker 1: No, it did not.

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Speaker 2: It's yeah, well this ending right here. We just wound

444
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Speaker 2: up not really score. We ended up not scoring. Pete

445
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Speaker 2: and McNeil had backed it back very long at bats

446
00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,360
Speaker 2: after this we mentioned it was two pitches for the

447
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Speaker 2: first two batses of the game, went out and man

448
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Speaker 2: on second and ended up making Verland to work for

449
00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,360
Speaker 2: twenty one pitches this inning. So even the fact that

450
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Speaker 2: we didn't get through it again, McNeil like a nine

451
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Speaker 2: or ten pitch at bad wound up just not really

452
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Speaker 2: getting it. The guy a couple of checks, wings on,

453
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Speaker 2: breaking balls down the zone, he missed the fastball he

454
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Speaker 2: got mad about, and just grinding foul balls, foul balls,

455
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Speaker 2: foul balls couldn't get through. But you got that with

456
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Speaker 2: twenty one pitches. I'm like, Okay, maybe there's a chance

457
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Speaker 2: that we chased Verlander by.

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Speaker 1: The sixth yeah, no, he retired the next twelve, the

459
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Speaker 1: next twelve, and the guy who broke it up is

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Speaker 1: none other than Ender Ncrte on what was the most

461
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Speaker 1: perfect swinging bunt I might have ever seen. I actually

462
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Speaker 1: don't think he could have rolled it out any better.

463
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Speaker 2: And then after that swinging bunt in fields single, Verlander

464
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Speaker 2: retired the last ten mets that he faced. So there

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Speaker 2: was a stretch from the first inning until the eighth

466
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Speaker 2: where Justin Verlander retired twenty two at twenty three mets.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, he was absolutely dominant. He was sick,

468
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Speaker 1: and what was good at least though, was that Taiwan

469
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Speaker 1: was also pretty dominant, pretty sick. He had one of

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Speaker 1: the best outings of the season, which is hard to

471
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Speaker 1: say for a guy who's had great outings all year.

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Speaker 1: He did it.

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Speaker 2: It was a good It was like I'm an old

474
00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,360
Speaker 2: school good Taiwan out of thing where he went seven

475
00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,639
Speaker 2: at their scoreless, only had three strikeouts and two walks.

476
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Speaker 2: This is kind of what we saw Taiwan he even

477
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Speaker 2: doing earlier this year when he was still getting used

478
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Speaker 2: to this new repertoire. But all those balls put in

479
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Speaker 2: play twenty two against a very good Astros lineup. Five

480
00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,040
Speaker 2: were pop ups and eleven were on the ground, so

481
00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,960
Speaker 2: seventeen to twenty two balls in play were absolutely not

482
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Speaker 2: dangerous anyway whatsoever.

483
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it felt like Luis Giurme was vacuuing him up everything.

484
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Speaker 1: I think he had like ten or eleven. I think

485
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Speaker 1: at one point I was watching the game with a

486
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Speaker 1: former club coach shout out Matt Belford, but he was like,

487
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Speaker 1: I think he's made seven putouts like in like the

488
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Speaker 1: first five innings, which is really it's a pretty great rate.

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Speaker 2: He had nine when I had actually left work to

490
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Speaker 2: come here. That was in like the fit the sixth inning.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's in howe on the radio, He's a vacuum

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Speaker 1: over there. I also thought it was interesting that Taiwan

493
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Speaker 1: featured a couple of new pitches too, that we haven't

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Speaker 1: seen a whole lot of features.

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Speaker 2: Not the word because we're talking about featuring Taiwan. Sprinkle still, yes, sprinkle.

496
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Speaker 2: He's still continuing to feature the split change and the slider.

497
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Speaker 2: He actually featured these says like every single start, because

498
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Speaker 2: the percent just keep climbing. Most highest combined percent of

499
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Speaker 2: those two pitches and any start this year fifty seven

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Speaker 2: percent for those two combined. The next most throne pitch

501
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Speaker 2: for him was sixteen percent of the four seam fastball,

502
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Speaker 2: twenty nine percent slider, twenty eight percent, split change sixteen

503
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Speaker 2: percent four seam fastball.

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Speaker 1: And splitter was gross again, like he got he made

505
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Speaker 1: the Astros hitters look kind of foolish with it. Totally

506
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Speaker 1: new pictures, unbelievable.

507
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Speaker 2: And then Mark did just mention the sprinkling in of

508
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Speaker 2: two pitches that we don't see very much from Taiwan.

509
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Speaker 1: It was a curveball and a cover color.

510
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Speaker 2: Especially I mentioned I noticed a curveball in the first inning,

511
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Speaker 2: which is kind of interesting that he would throw that

512
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Speaker 2: pitch out there the first second time through the order.

513
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Speaker 2: But the col especially as Taiwan is becoming a work

514
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Speaker 2: I don't know what the word is right now. A

515
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Speaker 2: pitcher who can and should pitch deeper into games. He

516
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Speaker 2: had order on Alvas for the third time of the game.

517
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Speaker 2: Jordan Alveras got out in the first inning, drew walk

518
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Speaker 2: the second time around. So now Jordan alvers third time

519
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Speaker 2: around the order against the right handed pitcher. See that's

520
00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,360
Speaker 2: something to be afraid of at a zero zero game. Yeah,

521
00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,760
Speaker 2: and Taiwan Walker threw him two covers.

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Speaker 1: The first one just froze him. I could I believe

523
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Speaker 1: the swing strike actually was it? I thought, here one

524
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Speaker 1: that he just like looked at and was just like, oh,

525
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Speaker 1: what was that pitch? It was.

526
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Speaker 2: It was a pitch that got a strike, And then

527
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Speaker 2: next one was a ball that he just hit, a

528
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Speaker 2: pretty casual flyball.

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Speaker 1: You know. I mean, Taiwan really did have a great performance.

530
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Speaker 1: And even though the offense didn't show up for this game,

531
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Speaker 1: it is by no means on the pitchers for all.

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Speaker 2: Right, that wiliness right there, that kind of adjustment, having

533
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Speaker 2: that in your tool bag, being able to drop a

534
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Speaker 2: new pitch at third time around the order to literally

535
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Speaker 2: one of the best hitters in all of baseball.

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Speaker 1: That is the difference. Yeah. Is that is development, That

537
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Speaker 1: is growth, and that is extremely positive side from Taiwan

538
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Speaker 1: Wall And I do think that Buck Showalter also did

539
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Speaker 1: a great job taking him out at the exactly right

540
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Speaker 1: time because he started to get into a little bit

541
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Speaker 1: of trouble in the seventh thing, or in the eighth inning,

542
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Speaker 1: I should say, you pitched seven and the third and

543
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Speaker 1: he went right to Edwin for the middle of the order.

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Speaker 1: He did not get into any trouble at all.

545
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Speaker 2: What happened here was that this was the completion of

546
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Speaker 2: the third time around the order for Topho, and the

547
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Speaker 2: first batter of the eighth inning was a nine hitter

548
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Speaker 2: in the Astros lineup, And once he got through the

549
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Speaker 2: lineup three times only in ninety three pitches, Buck Shalter said,

550
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Speaker 2: you're coming out, and I'm bringing in my best reliever,

551
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Speaker 2: one of the best relievers in baseball for the top

552
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Speaker 2: of the scary ash. And Edwin hit out too, and

553
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Speaker 2: Edwind got into trouble but then got out of it.

554
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Speaker 2: To be fair, we were also hanging out in the

555
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Speaker 2: suite talking to Carton and Roberts. You guys might be

556
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Speaker 2: familiar with the radio hosts.

557
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Speaker 1: Maybe check out TikTok coming days. Yeah, TikTok will have

558
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Speaker 1: a little content with them, But we were talking to

559
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Speaker 1: them a little bits. Gonna have content. I know we

560
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Speaker 1: haven't been able to do that in a long time.

561
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Speaker 1: It's been a minute, but I told you when we're

562
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Speaker 1: with the Mets, we're gonna get more content. But yeah,

563
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Speaker 1: I really like that move. That's now what the second

564
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Speaker 1: is time we've seen Buck go to Edwin in the

565
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Speaker 1: appropriate situation. That is not the ninth inning, second time

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Speaker 1: in three weeks. I love that. I love seeing Buck

567
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Speaker 1: do that because that just shows I show some growth

568
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Speaker 1: as a manager, and that's Lot's great process. We love

569
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Speaker 1: a good process, Pross. And again at the end of

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Speaker 1: the inning, it worked.

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Speaker 2: It was scary for a moment because he hit Altuve

572
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Speaker 2: and I believe Payne got the single. Somebody got a single,

573
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Speaker 2: it would be paying you up next, Py, you got

574
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Speaker 2: a single, I'll remember if the guy up next got

575
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Speaker 2: the single. And then he actually was painted because then

576
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Speaker 2: he got and he struck out Bregman and he got.

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Speaker 1: Out for us. Yes, yes, I have a good, really

578
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Speaker 1: good way to scoop the foul ball by Nito there.

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Speaker 1: Now I gotta ask you because of course Monday morning quarterback,

580
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Speaker 1: we did see the ninth inning. Yeah, and Drew Smith

581
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Speaker 1: came in for the ninth and he gave up a

582
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Speaker 1: two run bomb to Jason Castro, which is really disappointing

583
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Speaker 1: because he's just not a very good baseball player and

584
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Speaker 1: he was hitting less than one hundred at the time

585
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Speaker 1: of the home run. Yeah, but it brings up the

586
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Speaker 1: question that with fourteen pitches in that eighth should edwin

587
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Speaker 1: have come out for the ninth inning, and I'd like

588
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Speaker 1: to know what you think, because I have my opinion.

589
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Speaker 2: I think that he might have come out for that inning,

590
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Speaker 2: but one of the big reasons he didn't was the

591
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Speaker 2: massive delay after the lesion between your Don Alphareez and

592
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Speaker 2: Jeremy Panya there. That inning was by far the longest

593
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Speaker 2: of the game. Shout out again John, our producer, for

594
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Speaker 2: telling us this game was speeding along, and I believe

595
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Speaker 2: the middle of the sixth allowed me to get to

596
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Speaker 2: the ballpark in time for the Carton and Roberts sick time.

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Speaker 1: I need you both of you guys, because you have

598
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Speaker 1: now done this in back to back see not back

599
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Speaker 1: to back series or back to back weeks two.

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Speaker 2: I believe it was like two out of four Game

601
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Speaker 2: four that was That was big trust from between me

602
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Speaker 2: and John.

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Speaker 1: That was really really helpful for me. They actually get

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Speaker 1: here on time. I ran. I ran from my house

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Speaker 1: to the G train, ran from the G train to

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Speaker 1: the seven, ran from the seven into the ballpark. Was

607
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Speaker 1: huffing and puffing when I got into the suite and

608
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Speaker 1: I was like the woman was I came up.

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Speaker 2: To the park and was like, do you want do

610
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Speaker 2: you want to drink. I was like, I just have

611
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Speaker 2: some candalope. I just had the VP's of candop. I

612
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Speaker 2: just need hydration.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, James is a full time job. But me, I

614
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Speaker 1: could come to the ballpark whatever I please and watch

615
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: the game. James had to run here sprinting. We did it.

616
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Speaker 1: We did it.

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Speaker 2: But I do think that if that inning didn't take

618
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Speaker 2: so long because of that collision, there might have been

619
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Speaker 2: a chance Edwin came out. But also it seemed like

620
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Speaker 2: Edwin just expelled a lot of emotion and a lot

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Speaker 2: of energy, as you know he does. I think if

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Speaker 2: Edwin was a two winning pitcher, he would be a

623
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Speaker 2: two winning pitcher. But it just doesn't seem like that

624
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Speaker 2: is really something that anyone in the organization wants or

625
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Speaker 2: needs him doing.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm glad you brought that up, because I think

627
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: it is really easy to get lost in that. There

628
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Speaker 1: was that massive delay, and you do know that like

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Speaker 1: adrenaline seems to be a huge part of Edwin. He

630
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Speaker 1: has his game. Like I just mentioned, I think Buck

631
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Speaker 1: ended up making the process right decision. And Drew Smith

632
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Speaker 1: has been great this year, fantastic because what too for

633
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Speaker 1: e R Still like he's still he's still Drew Change,

634
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Speaker 1: He's still our guy. One of our production guys was

635
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: very upset about Drew Smith after this game. But in

636
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Speaker 1: the reality, like, I know, he had that bad outing

637
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Speaker 1: against I know he had that bad outing, kind of

638
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Speaker 1: shaky adding.

639
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 2: Against the Marlins where he allowed inherited runner with that

640
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 2: Friday or Saturday with all the walks. Yeah, but he

641
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: did end up tracking out enough guys to get through

642
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 2: the inning and Adam out saved him. But this home

643
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 2: run to Jason Casher was the first run Drew Smith's

644
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Speaker 2: given up since June sixth. Yeah, it was against San

645
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Speaker 2: Diego Padres.

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Speaker 1: It was just like a swift kick to the nuts

647
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Speaker 1: a little bit.

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Speaker 2: It was it was. It was a very swift kick

649
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 2: to the nuts. And this is also this sent his

650
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Speaker 2: full season era over two for the first time. To like,

651
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Speaker 2: he's still been very good.

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Speaker 1: Picture.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you kind of get burned by Jason Castro, as

654
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 2: hard as that is to say, maybe not Jason Castro,

655
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 2: but Jason Castro like players.

656
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: And sometimes you run into Justin Verlander who doesn't give

657
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: up any runs.

658
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 2: Bring to attention to the fact that the Mets have

659
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 2: lost two out of three games on backup catcher home

660
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 2: runs in the ninth inning.

661
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Speaker 1: I would love for you to not bring that up

662
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: with I would love to forget that Jason Cashro and

663
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: Nick Fortes have hit home runs against the Mets in

664
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Speaker 1: the ninth.

665
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 2: Also just goes to show how chaok and random baseball is.

666
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 2: And for the Mets, who have lost three games in

667
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 2: a row for the first time all year, two backup

668
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 2: catchers had to play hero for their teams.

669
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like this game was this game was.

670
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 2: Running towards a home run, was going to win it. Yeah,

671
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 2: they're just gonna matter whose home run was going to

672
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 2: man it. And reality, the Astros have like seven guys

673
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 2: who kind of home run.

674
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: The Mets have like four just curted out to be

675
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 1: the one guy you think would hit a home run

676
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: ended up doing it. It's stunk. It wasn't fun by

677
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: any means. This series stunk. I mean, we can't sugarcoat it.

678
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: But that being said, just because the series stunk doesn't

679
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: mean that this Mets team stinks. And it feels like

680
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: right now, there are a lot of Mets fans who

681
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: I think we've we've been pretty strong all year long,

682
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: but it feels like a lot of people are ready

683
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: to do the whole Sky is Falling thing. And I

684
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,959
Speaker 1: think it's important to note the Mets, this June swoon

685
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: that has been talked about and had been feared this

686
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: entire year, the June swoon, the classic Mets doing their thing.

687
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: They still finish the month thirteen and twelve. I mean,

688
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 1: it's not good by any means. This isn't a month

689
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 1: where you go man thirteen and twelve, that's that's exactly

690
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: how we want it. But when you play against fourteen

691
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: teams above five hundred, the Dodgers, the Padres, the Astros,

692
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: and the Brewers, that's pretty good. I'm okay with that.

693
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 2: So some of I mentions I got yesterday. I was

694
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 2: tweeting about how much I didn't like playing the Astros,

695
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 2: which is fair. One guy says, it's the difference between

696
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: the American League and the National League. The Mets gets

697
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 2: bill the National League teams that the big beat American

698
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 2: League comes to town.

699
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. The American League so deep with all their talented

700
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: teams like the Los Angeles Angels and the Kansas City Royals.

701
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: So deep.

702
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 2: One guy told me the Mets weren't beating the Marlins

703
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: by enough runs, and that they're not playing well at

704
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 2: any level right now, Like these are just these are

705
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 2: not realistic ways to be this Mets team right now.

706
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: Could they be playing better? Sure? Yeah?

707
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 2: Am I a little disappointed in how they performed against

708
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 2: some of the better teams the league that we played, Yeah,

709
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: a little bit. But I'm not gonna take this as

710
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 2: like I'm not joking out the back window right here,

711
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 2: Like there's still plenty of things to be excited about

712
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: about this Mets team.

713
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 1: The Mets schedule also to play a little you know,

714
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: looking ahead, the schedule gets easier as we go on. John,

715
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have the stats for us here,

716
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 1: but second half, what's the Mets schedule looking like? Strength

717
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: of schedule wise, I'm.

718
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 3: Moving forward, The Mets are tied for the seventh easiest

719
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,959
Speaker 3: remaining strength of schedule in all of baseball July it

720
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 3: eases up a lot as well.

721
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Speaker 1: So yeah, there you go, and for a team that

722
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: is good, one of the best teams in baseball, and

723
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: easy schedule feels like something that could help spark this

724
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: team to maybe get on a hot streak.

725
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: And a lot of people will come against us with

726
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 2: that and be like well, when you make the playoffs,

727
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: you gotta be the best teams.

728
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 1: Ye.

729
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll play them in the playoffs. I don't know

730
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 2: whatever that happens, that we'll figure that way out. And

731
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: the playoffs is a crapshoot too.

732
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 1: The Braves literally got hot last year at the exact

733
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: right time. We all know on paper they weren't the

734
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: best team, but that's also why you play these games.

735
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: It's not about being the best team on paper. It's

736
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 1: about being the best team on the field. And the

737
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: Mets are still eighteen games above five hundred. They've clearly

738
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: shown all year long they are one of the better

739
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 1: teams in baseball. The Astros are really good. You're gonna

740
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: lose to good team, You're gonna lose to bad teams.

741
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 2: And June was kind of like a war of attrition too,

742
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 2: because we had series against the Dodgers, the Padres, I'm

743
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: gonna say, the Angels, even though they're not very good,

744
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: and then Brewers, and then you have these games against

745
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 2: the Astros at the end, like you played fourteen games

746
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: in one month against teams over five hundred, over five

747
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: hundred teams who are pretty pretty close to being bona.

748
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: Fide locks of the playoffs. I'm all. Besides the Brewers

749
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: and the and the Padres, it also feels like the

750
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: Mets were doing a lot of like big traveling this

751
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: month too. They went to California for what felt like

752
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: a month, even though it was like a week, but

753
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: they were going two weeks. They were going all over

754
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: the place. They then flew to Houston, they flew to Miami,

755
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: and they flew back here. There was games in between,

756
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: a big travel month. It's gonna be okay. I really

757
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: do think that this June swoon could have been a

758
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 1: whole lot worse. And I feel like, considering that the

759
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: Mets didn't necessarily play their best baseball to come out

760
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: of it thirteen and twelve against the quality of teams

761
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: that we have played, I'm not happy. I'm content. I'm

762
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: not content, but I'm fine. Yeah, like, yeah, okay, we

763
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: find's contents is not content. Fine is on a different

764
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: level than content.

765
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: Semantics, Absolutely not anybody who's ever had significant other in

766
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 2: any way, shape or form knows that fine and content

767
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 2: are not the same.

768
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: You know, I just have a great relationship. I've never

769
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: heard of those words. But let's get out of this

770
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: because I'm kind of done talking about series and Mets

771
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: got swept and we should talk about the prospects. Yeah,

772
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 1: let's talk about the prospects because we since we've become

773
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: the official podcast of the New York Mets, we have

774
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: not done a prospect report, and that is something that

775
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: me and you both love talking about. We're big prospect guys,

776
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: and the Mets have some really good ones to talk about,

777
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: and we know you guys love hearing about them. So

778
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: this was honestly a brilliant idea for a segment last year.

779
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: So hiphasas boom, big high fives for the boys around,

780
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: and let's just start off with the number one guy,

781
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: the dude that everyone's talking about. The murmurs have begun

782
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: again for the Francisco Alpharez call up, which is looking

783
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: like it could maybe happen in September. I don't know

784
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: he's the way he's playing because the numbers they're pretty unbelievable.

785
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: But if we're gonna talk about we're gonna get to the

786
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: stats in a second. But first, like talking about Francisco

787
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: Alparez call up. If he does get called up, it

788
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 2: will be I think as more of like a guy

789
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 2: that mixed in for DH.

790
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: Strictly strictly an emergency catcher. He has not worked with

791
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: any of the pitchers that are currently on the mar train,

792
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: and you can't do that. That's another reason why teams

793
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: tend to not trade for catchers at the trade deadline

794
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: is because those catchers have to get a repertoire with

795
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: all those guys that they're gonna work with.

796
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 2: That and also why it's relatively on, like it's less

797
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: likely that a team calls up a catcher like this

798
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: in the middle of the season when they're like competing

799
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 2: for a playoff spot, like we saw the Oriols do

800
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: with Adelie Rushman. But that is a different level because

801
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: they're kind of building an organization through radley, Like, now

802
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 2: you get him your half season prepared because like they're

803
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: actually somehow approaching five hundred in the hardest vision in baseball,

804
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: so you do better.

805
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: And you look at a team like.

806
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: The Blue Jays who call up someone who was in

807
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: contention with Olivarez as number one catching prospect in baseball,

808
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 2: gabrielle Moreno, they kind of called him up out of

809
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: the necessity because they had allehandro Kirk and Dan Jans

810
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: and Dan James had two tough like injuries so far

811
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: as here, even though they were both hitting very well.

812
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: Had Zach Collins, who I think andyone knows Zach Collins

813
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: isn't really you know, I really using Zach Collins a block,

814
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: a top prospect, so you call him reno. But with

815
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 2: Alvarez it would be a situation where the Mets are

816
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 2: looking for a hither I think, rather than a catcher.

817
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: I believe so too. And the numbers don't lie in

818
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: his last one hundred and sixty one hundred and sixty

819
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: two games now because the stat's a little bit older,

820
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: and this one came from Matthew Brownstein, shout out to him,

821
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: since twenty twenty one, last one sixty one at this time,

822
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty five hits, thirty four doubles, a

823
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: triple sprinkle that in there, show little legs. Francisco forty

824
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: one home runs, one hundred and fifteen RBIs which again

825
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: a nonsense stat. But forty one home runs and one

826
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen and one hundred and sixty one games

827
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Speaker 1: in the minor leagues, I don't care what level. Yeah,

828
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: they're not really hitting teams and hitting leagues no, it's unbelievable.

829
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: Nine thirty six ops, one forty nine WRC plus, which

830
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: is just an advanced stat to kind of give your

831
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: runs created for those of you who.

832
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: Don't know, it's also in terms of one hundred, So

833
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 2: when you're talking about that's stat, one hundred is the average,

834
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 2: and whatever number you are over one hundred, that's considered

835
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: what percent you are better than the league average. So

836
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: it takes all of your stats combined and more so

837
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: your power, your play discipline, and it puts you into

838
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: like a vat with all your players. So over the

839
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: last hundred and sixty one games that Franz Squever has played,

840
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: between the players at each of his levels, he is

841
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: fifty percent better than the average and is one of

842
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:57,959
Speaker 2: the youngest players there there.

843
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: It is still the words right out of my mouth.

844
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: He's one of the youngest PLA and he's doing it

845
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: again this year in Double A. As you can imagine,

846
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: he's literally twenty years old, doesn't turn twenty one till

847
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: November that playing in playing in Double A, he's four

848
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: years younger than the average age of which is unbelievably good.

849
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: He's ninth in the Eastern League in WRC plus with

850
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: one forty seven seventeen homers, sixteen doubles, forty five RBIs

851
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: and a nine to fourteen ops. I mean, the guy

852
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: is just an absolute beast at the play. We saw

853
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: him in person in Brooklyn last year, got to speak

854
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: to him a little bit of an interview there. This

855
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: dude's got star written all over him.

856
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: I mean, we hope he's just the only thing with

857
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: him is like, you gotta keep doing it, go up

858
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: more levels and keep producing. And he did have that tiny,

859
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: little little bit idy bitty swoon in the middle of

860
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: this year, and he has just turned that around and

861
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: again proved that he is one of the best prospects

862
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 2: in baseball. On people who see him play, the scouts,

863
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: the fans, you can just tell that when the ball

864
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: hits his bat, something different is happening than the other guys.

865
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, we saw your on Alvarez TAKEVP this weekend. Yes,

866
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: he was taking fifty percent swings and they're going into

867
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: the Coca Cola corner. Francisco Alvarez not lefty, but can

868
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: do similar stuff the bat. It's like a trampoline off

869
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: the balls off his.

870
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 2: Met Eddie ether, in Chief of Baseball America came on

871
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: last year, said that his batting practice at the Futures

872
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: Game was the most impressive there.

873
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: And I can't wait to watch him take some more

874
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: batting practice soon.

875
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: Yes, And now moving on, I would say the next

876
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: best prospect in the Mets system Brett Bay, another guy

877
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 2: who had a little bit of a swoon earlier in

878
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: this year, but has just spun it around and been

879
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 2: a very very good prospect again.

880
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: Slash of two eighty two, three eighty three, four fifty five.

881
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: That's good for an eight thirty eight ops, eight home

882
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: runs and thirteen doubles, twelve point five percent walk rate,

883
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: which is very good, twenty seven point five percent strikeout rate,

884
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: which is a little bit high. But Baty seems this

885
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: year to have made adjustment to hit the ball in

886
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: the air more and pull the ball more. Those were

887
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: two of the things kind of pulling down his profile

888
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: in years past. Spike the k rate, of course, and

889
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: that just becomes next adjustment. Now that you have the

890
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: approach and the swing where you're pulling and lifting, now

891
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: you have to be a little more selective. And I'm

892
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: confident the way that Baty has developed that will come

893
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 2: with time and He's especially hot at the plate right now,

894
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: hit safely in eighteen of Bighamon's last nineteen games, with

895
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 2: five home runs over those nine team games, and is

896
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: seventeen to.

897
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: Twelve strikeout to walk ratio. And he's a former guest

898
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: of the Mets of the podcast. We like to get

899
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: the prospects on here every once in a while. Baty.

900
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: Also again, if you guys are new to the podcast,

901
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: we know there are some of you new guys here.

902
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: He's an incredible athlete too. It feels like his athleticism

903
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: gets underplayed at times. We've watched him in person, we

904
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: saw him at the Fall League, We've seen him around.

905
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: He's a big, strong dude who runs really well and

906
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: can play third base no doubt.

907
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: And he's a guy who he is so athletic that

908
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: there probably is a chance that if there was an

909
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: adjustment to be made for him, he probably could hang

910
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 2: in corner outfield. Oh without it, certainly, And we know

911
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: also from talking to him that he was an accomplished

912
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 2: football player.

913
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: Technical Middle School in the state of Texas, Yeah, which

914
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: that's like almost the NFL.

915
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: Basically, it's at least like the non Power five schools

916
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: in NCAA Division One, but also middle school teamate Garrett Wilson,

917
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,959
Speaker 2: all my Jets fans out there, that's a pretty cool connection.

918
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: There might be a possibility for down the line some

919
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 2: kind of fun combo content there. And Brett Baty was

920
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: incredibly accomplished high school basketball player.

921
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: In the state of Texas. Great athlete, as an incredible athlete.

922
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: Everyone should go back on our the Mets Up YouTube channel,

923
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: try and find that interview if you can, because he's

924
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: also like hilarious dude, He's had a lot of fun.

925
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a lot of fun. We were holding

926
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: him from the bus as well. We literally stopped the

927
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: entire Arizona Fall League team that he was on from

928
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: leaving because he had to do an interview with us

929
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: and it was a little windy.

930
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: But bear in mind we were not yet the official

931
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 2: podcast in New York Mets, so our equipment was okay.

932
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not like this fancy equipment we have. Now.

933
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: The last guy we'll talk about in depth year is

934
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: gonna be Ronnie Mauricio. It's the Big three. When you

935
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: talk about the offensive prospects for the Mets. He's doing

936
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: the Ronnie Mauricio thing where he's hitting a lot of

937
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: home runs because his power is truly incredible. He's got

938
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: a special special bat when you talk about power. The

939
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: average is a little bit low. He's not walking, but

940
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 1: that's kind of been his stick the entire time. He

941
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: is a four point three percent walk rate, which is

942
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: very low. Hilariously an uptick from where he once was. That. Yes,

943
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: so I will say improvement, improvement, improvement for Ronnie at

944
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: seven fifty four. Ohps. He's another guy who's extremely young.

945
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: But you see the thirteen homers, you see the seventeen doubles,

946
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: forty seven RBIs, and you go, oh, this is a

947
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: guy who can probably slot into the middle of the

948
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: order in the future and give you a lot of production.

949
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: And with Mauricio, he was not walking at all the

950
00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: beginning of the year.

951
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 2: Our last probable spec report we had mentioned that he

952
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: had been running like an eight percent walk rid over

953
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 2: two weeks.

954
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 1: He thought was great last two weeks, so he stopped

955
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: walking again. On the ball, hard hit the Ballhart and

956
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: Mauricio is a guy who has a very unique defensive floor.

957
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 2: While he might never be like a true major league shortstop,

958
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 2: he's someone who can play it at a slight relatively

959
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: advanced level. Like we recently saw a lot of scaps

960
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 2: talk about O'Neil Cruz, the new burgeoning superstar on the

961
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Pirates, six foot seven, looks like Brandon Marshall. People

962
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: thought he would never stick a short stop, and now

963
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 2: suddenly he's playing in the major leagues through the hardest

964
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 2: ball among the infield all years so far.

965
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: Marisio, I'm not going to compare him to O'Neil, but well,

966
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: a little bit. He a big dude.

967
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 2: He's a massive dude, and the fact that he can

968
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: stuff it there still means that there's a really high

969
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 2: likelihood that he will be able to give you at

970
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 2: least slightly plus defense at third or second.

971
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: So with power and a little bit defensive versatility.

972
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 2: Mauricio is a prospect who was always considered like high ceiling,

973
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: low floor.

974
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: I kind of like Mauricio's floor like floors moving up.

975
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is because the guy could do a lot

976
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: of things and hits the ball hard like while to

977
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: player this might be an issue at worst case, Snaire

978
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: as a guy who's defensively versatile and has power.

979
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 1: And then every team could use yeah and then shout

980
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: out to Omar Delos Santos and Travis Blankenhorne, some names

981
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: you guys might remember. Both named players of their of

982
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: the week in their respective minor leagues. Omar Dela Santos

983
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 1: is with Saint Lucy and Travis's with Syracuse Nice.

984
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: And there's probably a chance we see blaken Horn again

985
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 2: some point this year. An old friend from last year,

986
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 2: I remember one of the craziest anecdotes that he I

987
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: heard about him. Gives you a little taste of what

988
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 2: these guys minor leaguers go through. He was on in

989
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: the Dodger system, playing in Oklahoma City and was traded

990
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 2: to the Mets. I believe it was last May or

991
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 2: June something like that, early summer, and he wound up

992
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 2: in Syracuse and at the time he literally did not

993
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 2: have enough money to ship his car. So Travis Blakenhorn's

994
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: car sat in Oklahoma City for the for a little

995
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 2: while after.

996
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: That, still be there. I guess he could just get

997
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: stumped the car, get a new car at that point,

998
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: just get a new car. Now, I think a minor league,

999
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: you're keeping your car.

1000
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 3: And it was a journey for Blankenhorn. He was he

1001
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 3: went from Seattle to the Dodgers May twenty fourth of

1002
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 3: last year June first, and Mets claimed him off the

1003
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: waiverstrim So a lot of travel, not.

1004
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: A good time. They don't have a car.

1005
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's a guy who's a former high draft pick

1006
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: right believe he was the first or second round and

1007
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: he was someone who when he first got into believe

1008
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: the Dodgers draft to him into their system. He was

1009
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 2: a relatively highly regarded prospect and we saw that the

1010
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: versatility last year and a little bit of pop.

1011
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be a guy that we see at

1012
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: the majors at some point this year for sure. Now

1013
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: onto the pitching side. Just a couple guys to talk

1014
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: about here, not too many. Dominic Hamill, who was a

1015
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: second or third round pick. I remember him and Ziegler

1016
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: always get the confused with rounds there picked last year.

1017
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: Good picture though, to top pick last year for the

1018
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: Mets in the draft, and he started off the year

1019
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: a little bit shaky, but he's actually been great of late.

1020
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: Shout to Jacob Resnick, who, if you're not following him

1021
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 1: on Twitter, probably the best prospect guy for the Mets.

1022
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: He has all the I don't know where he gets

1023
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 1: these videos from I don't think anybody gets them all.

1024
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: The video stuff is incredible, and for me, I'm a

1025
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: very visual guy. With these projects, have like a network

1026
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: of people in these ballparks. His connections have to be crazy,

1027
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: like a twenty two year old. Yeahs a twenty two

1028
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: year old, he's a beast to follow him. But this

1029
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: is basically his tweet and two starts against Palm Beach

1030
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: this week. He went eight and two thirds innings, two

1031
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: earned runs, zero walks, and twelve k's. And the zero

1032
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: walks is especially great because he had been averaging five

1033
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: over nine innings the entire year basically, and he was

1034
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: able to go two starts in a row without giving

1035
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: up a single walk. Huge, huge, pre dominant Hamill pitching development.

1036
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: The Mets twenty twenty one pitching draft class is looking

1037
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: like they have a couple of pretty pitchers be excited about.

1038
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 2: We also have Calvin Ziegler, who had a very hot

1039
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 2: start to the year kind of got his name into

1040
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: a lot of real prospect buzz, but tapered down a

1041
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 2: little bit last two weeks.

1042
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: But that's okay.

1043
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 2: He's got great, great specs on his I believe it's

1044
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 2: a fastball and a slider so far, I think Hamill

1045
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 2: is of a similar repertoire.

1046
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: And also Carson Seemore has been pitching well as well. Dude.

1047
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: And how about nick z Whack. He was also a

1048
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one draft pick, seventeenth round at of Xavier.

1049
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: So the dude's coming from Middle America, Ohio. That's not

1050
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 1: a baseball hotbed by any means, But nick z Whack

1051
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: has been carving up. He carved up Saint Lucy got

1052
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: him a promotion to Brooklyn, and since his promotion to Brooklyn,

1053
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: a one point eight five VRO with a twenty five

1054
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: percent k rate and what I particularly love four point

1055
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: five percent walk great. We have that kind of control

1056
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: as a pitcher that young, and he's twenty three years old.

1057
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: It's not like a nineteen year old by means. He's

1058
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: he's a young pitcher in terms of you know, baseball years.

1059
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: He looked great, and he carved up low A to

1060
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: forty Kate and low A. I love that.

1061
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 2: Let's go keep his organizational death roll on and them

1062
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 2: guys you could trade, yeah, And then I believe John,

1063
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: you had a guy you wanted to talk about real quick, right,

1064
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: cam Op.

1065
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great story.

1066
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 3: Cam Op, a lefty, played his college ball at West Point,

1067
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 3: dual citizen. Parents moved to London when he was younger.

1068
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 3: Father passed away when he was young. He's been, like

1069
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 3: you said, carving up for Brooklyn this year two seven

1070
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 3: e ra hard throwing lefty. He's on the il right now,

1071
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 3: but still a guy to keep an eye on, obviously

1072
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 3: the best way. There's two ways to make the big

1073
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 3: weeks catching throwing with your left hand, Camop the second one.

1074
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: So just an awesome story. Impossible not to roof for

1075
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: a guy like that. Yeah, I love those stories. And

1076
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: hopefully we hear some more great stuff on cam Op.

1077
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: We'll check on him as the season goes on. Maybe

1078
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 1: we make a trip to Brooklyn some point, who knows. Yeah,

1079
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: we love a good trip to Brooklyn. Cony Island's a

1080
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: fun time the Clones. Yeah, were you go and half

1081
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: off beer on Thursdays? Well that is all us. But anyway,

1082
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: brewery right there to an amazing place to hang out. Yeah,

1083
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: great job, great job. So that's pretty much it for

1084
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: the prospect report. That's what we got. That was a

1085
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: good one. That was a nice one, not not too deep,

1086
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: but also you guys get to learn a little bit

1087
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: of information about the guys in the farm system. We

1088
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: hold them back for the next Prospect report, of course. Yeah,

1089
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: we have some deep cuts in the DSL and the

1090
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: CPX that we will give you in the next one.

1091
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 1: You're gonna hear some names who us yeah, Jesus Bias.

1092
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: We'll tell you about them in the next one. So

1093
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: you guys make sure you stick around for that. Now,

1094
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: I think is the perfect time kind of wrapped us

1095
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: all up here with the Rangers preview. We have three

1096
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: games up against the Texas Rangers, who feel like they

1097
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: have not been to City Field maybe ever. I don't

1098
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: know the last time we played the Mets in City Field. Actually,

1099
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: way sooner than I thought. That's five years. Oh oh

1100
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 1: it is twenty twenty two. Yeah, I don't like that

1101
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: as twenty twenty two. I don't like thinking about that.

1102
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: It was five years ago. Man, the World Series was

1103
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: seven years ago, my goodness.

1104
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 2: But as far as pitching matchups for the series, Friday

1105
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: Night and Apple TV broadcast, Hey, now we're gonna have

1106
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: Chris Basit versus Glenn A.

1107
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: Though Glenado, former Yankees prospect, went over in that Joey

1108
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: gallow trade that's yielded basically four major leaguers already. It's

1109
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: been a great trade for the Rangers. But Chris Bassett

1110
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: better pitcher by all meats.

1111
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was fine. Olough actually just came off a

1112
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 2: little stint on the covid Il. He was pitching well

1113
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: before that. We'll see what he what he gets next

1114
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 2: time around. But Saturday four o'clock game, David Peterson versus

1115
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 2: Martin Perez, who I don't I don't know.

1116
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: I can't run my head around Martin Perez.

1117
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: He's come back to earth a little bit more recently.

1118
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 2: Martin Perez, longtime journeyman who basically always went out there

1119
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 2: with nothing. Twins Red Sox. Well, so someone else before

1120
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 2: Twins too was the Rangers. Yeah, originally with the Rangers.

1121
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, the last time the best and Rangers played.

1122
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: How how did he do?

1123
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 3: Martin Perez?

1124
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: Eight innings, one run, five limiting the heart and contact.

1125
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 3: What Martin Perez does?

1126
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 2: Martin Perez has a has a color that is just

1127
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 2: really gonna grind everyone's gears on Saturday evening. But he's

1128
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: someone who was probably pitching all over skis for the

1129
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: first two months in position to be an AL All Star,

1130
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 2: which I never ever would have thought that. If anybody

1131
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 2: listened to me in the First Pitch podcast, I routinely

1132
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: talked down on Martin Perez and his resurgence. But Martin

1133
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: Perez we also talked about that recently had a relationship

1134
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 2: with Jeremy Happener, So Jeremy Hefton really helped him to

1135
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: develop in that one year he was with the Twins,

1136
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 2: or Jeremy the one year they overlapped with the Twins.

1137
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 2: And then Sunday Mattine won for the Carlos carrasco versus

1138
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 2: John Gray and I think a pretty interesting pitching matchup.

1139
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely two guys that have been a little bit

1140
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: up and down this year, but both have good stuff.

1141
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Gray especially has always had stuff I will

1142
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 2: necessarily call it good. He's always had Velossiti former first

1143
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 2: round pick, have some armed trouble coming up with the Rockies,

1144
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 2: which someome your best case scenario coming up with the Rockies,

1145
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: gets some arm trouble, hopefully get ready to.

1146
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: Sooner you get out of the organization.

1147
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: But it always had a kind of obscure fastball shape

1148
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: that actually worked really well in cores field because it

1149
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: was able to keep the ball down. But when you

1150
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: played in any other wallpark, it's really not that effective

1151
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 2: at all. Even though has such a goveloss, he has

1152
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 2: no ride on it done in that rising action we

1153
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 2: want to see these days. But since coming to the Rangers,

1154
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: they've helped him develop a new pitch that's sweeping across baseball.

1155
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 2: The sweeper, yeah, which is like a slider that kind

1156
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: of like a curveball. It has a different observed spin

1157
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 2: than the perceived spin, so based on the way it

1158
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: leaves the guy's hand, it actually moves more than what's

1159
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 2: expected from that. But that pitch is very good for Gray.

1160
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 2: The rest of them aren't really that scary at all.

1161
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 2: These are three pitchers who are competent, but none of

1162
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 2: them are especially that great. But this Rangers team is

1163
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: I would call them annoying ish.

1164
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't watch enough Rangers baseball

1165
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: to make a claim if they're annoying or not. Yet.

1166
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 2: There's one reason I don't watch as much Rangers baseball

1167
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: as I would. It is because the camera angle when

1168
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 2: they're at home is high.

1169
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: It's abysmal. It's horrible. It's like it's uncomfortable to watch

1170
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: brand new stadium. They can't figure out where to put

1171
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: a camera.

1172
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 2: But also like ruins, wanting to, like if anyone follows

1173
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 2: me on Twitter every week or so, I like to

1174
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 2: make like a nice video about a picture or a

1175
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 2: hither someone that's doing something interesting. I want to point

1176
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: out and all the videos inside. It's called globe like

1177
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 2: glo globel like field and you've you've been there, He says.

1178
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: It's wonderful, a nice stadium. I enjoy it. It's just

1179
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: it screws up all of like a series of videos

1180
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: you want to show. It's really bizarre. They would make

1181
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: a new stadium. That would happen, but they The Rangers

1182
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,959
Speaker 1: are a team that played really poorly to the beginning

1183
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: of the year, but has actually been playing very good

1184
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: baseball for the last two months. They're crawling back to

1185
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: five hundred. They are technically second place in the American

1186
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: League West, which feels weird for a team that's under

1187
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,959
Speaker 1: five hundred, but that's the American League West.

1188
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: For it, and it is not really a bad roster at least.

1189
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: Garcia does a lot of things well. He will swing

1190
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 2: and miss exorbitant amount but.

1191
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: He will not walk No, but he's hitting two sixty

1192
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: on the year, which I bet no one saw that

1193
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: one coming. Fifteen homers, fifteen doubles, great athletes, and eleven steals.

1194
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: He urs out of his jersey too. He's if you

1195
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 1: have your player rotistity baseball. At least Garcia was basically

1196
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: free in draft season. He's been something of an MVP

1197
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: so far.

1198
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: Nathaniel Lowe, also Fantasy Baseball Favorit prospect for the last

1199
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 2: five years, plays good ball.

1200
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: Corey Seger has finally.

1201
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: Started to heat up, crushing lefties. Yes, Marcus Emion has

1202
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: showed signs of life. He's been overall disappointment besides that

1203
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 2: one crazy week he had like two weeks ago yet

1204
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: six homers, But he's showing signs of life. Cole Calhoun

1205
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: has one of the twenty five best barrel rachs in

1206
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 2: all of baseball.

1207
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: Right that stopped me in my tracks?

1208
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jonah him who is Now they're starting catchup because

1209
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 2: now much Garver is more of a DH for them,

1210
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 2: even though they kind of seem like they're going to

1211
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: split time there someone who Mark miss ranked in his

1212
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 2: offseason catcher rankings.

1213
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,479
Speaker 1: To be fair based on what was seen it was.

1214
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: It was a very fair evaluation and to and also

1215
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: shoutut to mister him who is a friend of the podcast.

1216
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 1: Jonaheim's dad loves dming me, gives me all the inside scoop.

1217
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: He's a New York kid. I think he's from Buffalo,

1218
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: So it'll be a little bit of a homecoming for Jonaheim.

1219
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: But with that something to talk about here with the Rangers,

1220
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: it might be a little too deep on the Rangers.

1221
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the Rangers because most Mets

1222
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: fans have like no information about the Rangers. Ever.

1223
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: No, they hired this offseason Donniecker, who was the Giants

1224
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: hitting coordinator last year.

1225
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: Okay, so if you want to talk about.

1226
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 2: Where the Giants were getting their black magic from and

1227
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 2: they lost a lot of it was this man, Donnyeker.

1228
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 2: And if you look at the battle rates of a

1229
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: lot of these players on the Rangers, they are a

1230
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 2: lot higher than you would probably have thought they would

1231
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 2: have been if you look these guys before the season. Jonaheim,

1232
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 2: I believe it's the top top three.

1233
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: Ops of all catchers in baseball. Yeah, and while still

1234
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: playing good defense. Yeah, to be fair, catcher ops very low,

1235
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: but no but I think it's like, actually a good

1236
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: ops though it's seven seventy one, it's a great year,

1237
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: well over league average the Mets. Yeah, it's just this

1238
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: Rangers team has good players that maybe don't have the

1239
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: greatest stats. Well, I mean a lot of guys.

1240
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 2: Actually you have go ga Statscause last thing I want

1241
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 2: to talk about is the fact that the Rangers bullpen

1242
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 2: this year has also been very, very impressive. Matt Bush,

1243
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 2: former high draft big ups and downs, got back to

1244
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: the league.

1245
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: Number one overall pick and one overall pick.

1246
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 2: Really yeah, striking out over twelve guys for nine innings.

1247
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,479
Speaker 2: Joe Barlow someone I love. I feature him an article

1248
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: on pitcher List in the offseason. He has just one

1249
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: of those beautiful rising fastballs, gets on.

1250
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: You in a hurry. Sure we'll see brock Burke. Brock

1251
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: Burk has been unhittable like these are and Matt Moore

1252
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: transition to the bullpen for them. He's had struggles with command,

1253
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: but he actually is strekking out our guy, Matt Moore. Yeah,

1254
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: oh my god, we gotta face them one day. But

1255
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: I do want to face good in the bullpen. Yeah, keep

1256
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: him a way. I want to do that. But the

1257
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: bullpen is actually annoyingly good, so that's going to be

1258
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: unfortunate to face. But really, at the end of the day,

1259
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: the Mets are the better team than the Rangers. Yeah,

1260
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: but the Rangers are pesky. They have a lot to say.

1261
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 1: They have decent amount of talent. I'll call them pesky

1262
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: when they start to bea pesky to me. They have

1263
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: five hundred haven't been pesky to me yet? Yes, true,

1264
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: I have Aos, Yeah, Aos, keep him out there. We

1265
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: should beat this team though, especially with the pitching matchups

1266
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 1: like Basst It's been great. Peterson's been really solid. Peterson's

1267
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: looks so good. We've talked about multiple times. Krasco, we

1268
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: need to bounce back start. But there's by no reason

1269
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: why the Mets can't win this series, especially Crasco at

1270
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: home against a team that's not the Astros. I like

1271
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: those odds, Yeah, I love those odds. Get them. It's

1272
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: another Texas team, which makes me feel a little weird.

1273
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 1: But away from the Astros as much as possible. Yeah,

1274
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: I mean I think that's all we got here today. Yeah,

1275
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 1: I think that's all we got here. A great way

1276
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: to wrap up this episode. Here for the Mets that

1277
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: podcast episode number one oh five. Make sure you guys

1278
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: are following us on all our social media as well

1279
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: as our podcast feed. So if you're listening to us,

1280
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, download the podcast, follow us,

1281
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: subscribe whatever it's called. I don't know the actual terminology,

1282
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: but hey, do it so you don't miss the next

1283
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: episode after we wrap up this Ranger series, hopefully a

1284
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: series win here. Remember the sky is not falling. We

1285
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: are going to be okay. This Mets team is good.

1286
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: Stable sky. Yeah, stable sky, stable Sky. We're gonna raise

1287
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:47,919
Speaker 1: the roof.

1288
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 2: And this episode since this series ending July third, I believe,

1289
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, Maybe I'm messing you guys right now

1290
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 2: live coming out on the fourth in the morning maybe

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Speaker 2: or maybe that's you're playing that Monday in Cince Navian

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Speaker 2: Are Yeah, it's the day games. We'll be done recording

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Speaker 2: the relative early so if you guys, again, this is

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Speaker 2: up to you guys. Now, there will be an episode

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Speaker 2: that you can listen to on the fourth. Maybe if

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Speaker 2: you're going back to work on the fifth, maybe save it,

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Speaker 2: save it for the commute, save it for the office,

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Speaker 2: save for the cube, and then come back in and

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Speaker 2: then you'll you'll get us next week.

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Speaker 1: It's alsould be a good morning listen. It could yeah,

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Speaker 1: before Fourth of July festivities, the Bachery. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: know about the batchery, but I said festivities way more

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Speaker 1: time with what we want to be saying. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: probably more appropriate for our listener base, for the whole

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Speaker 1: breadth of the listener base. But anyway, guys, that's where

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Speaker 1: we're wrapping up. Make sure you following me and James

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Speaker 1: on Twitter as well at drafteck, mark at James Ciano,

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Speaker 1: and make sure you're following the mess Up Social media

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Speaker 1: is at mets up Everywhere, mets YouTube channel for the

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Speaker 1: video content, and we're gonna get some tiktoks coming soon,

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Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah. Keeping out for those, thanks for listening,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for watching. We'll see on the next episode of

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Speaker 1: the Mess Up Podcast. Peace Out, peace out, guys, see

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Speaker 1: you next time. Get Up, Get Up,