1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Cup of Joe Podcast with LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, and 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: myself Jonas Knox. Make sure you catch us live weekdays 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: six to nine am Eastern Time three to six am 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. You can find your local 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: station for the Two Pros and a Cup of Joe 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: Show over at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream us 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: Give this you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 3: Oh what is going on? 11 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 4: Happy Tuesday to you as the Schwartz Syndicate and Brian 12 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 4: Noller back at you again. I'm very happy about this, 13 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 4: and you know we come with good news to start 14 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 4: off here. Now, Jeff, We've done radio for quite a 15 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 4: while and so I've gotten to know you over the years, 16 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 4: and I'm ninety nine point nine percent sure that you 17 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 4: are not a New York Knicks fan. 18 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: Is that correct? 19 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 5: Do I have? I'm not a New York Knicks fan. 20 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 5: That's correct? 21 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 4: Okay, Well, you're in luck this morning, because if you were, 22 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 4: I would have some bad news for you. Oh no, yeah, 23 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 4: the bad news I would have for you if you 24 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 4: were a Knicks fan, is that your team who hadn't 25 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 4: been to the Eastern Conference Finals in a quarter of 26 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 4: a century. Though they fired Tom Thibodeaux, they kicked him 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 4: to the curb. Then they had the oddest coaching search 28 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 4: probably of all time, and then they ended up officially 29 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 4: hiring Mike Brown on Monday as their new head coach. 30 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 4: I would anticipate you, as a diehard Knicks fan, would 31 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 4: not be elated with any of these things that went down. 32 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 4: But that's exactly what went down with the Knicks. And 33 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 4: here they are with Mike Brown and what is his 34 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 4: what fifth job? He's been fired numerous times, and yet 35 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 4: the Knicks man, And this is the thing, Jeff, the 36 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 4: statement they put out, This is their president, Leon Rose, 37 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 4: he put out this statement. 38 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: Just maybe it's me, maybe. 39 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 4: I'm too critical here, but to me, this is just 40 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 4: reeks of desperation. This reeks of like the kids would say, 41 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 4: being thirsty, you know. So this is Leon Rose, the 42 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 4: statement he put out after a thorough and extensive search process. 43 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 4: That is a very positive way to describe it. We 44 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 4: are pleased to announce Mike Brown as the head coach 45 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 4: of the New York Knicks. Mike has coached on the 46 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 4: biggest stages in our sport and brings championship pedigree to 47 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 4: our organization. That's part of the statement from Leon Rose. 48 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 4: Now here's the thing, Jeff. But he got canned left 49 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 4: and right as a head coach. Yes, he was an 50 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 4: assistant coach with the Warriors and the Spurs, and he 51 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 4: has multiple championships as an assistant coach. 52 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 3: But it's like, if you're the Nicks, that's what you're 53 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 3: clinging on to. 54 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 4: I know that you want to get there and you 55 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 4: want to reach the promised Land and win a championship, 56 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 4: But this is what you're banking on is Mike Brown 57 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 4: as an assistant coach under Steve Kerr under Popovich, and 58 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 4: he's winning titles with the Warriors with with like K 59 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 4: D and Company. You think that's Mike Brown. His fingerprints 60 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 4: are all over those titles. Do you think they don't 61 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 4: win titles without Mike Brown? Like, what are we doing here? 62 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 4: I think it's just such desperate thinking where you're just 63 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 4: trying to shoehorn success into your own building, and this 64 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 4: is how you're trying to do it. 65 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 5: So when good morning, first of all, good morning, Schwartze 66 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 5: Kid might be Mike might lose a sport. By the way, 67 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 5: this is the kid might be might be over the 68 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 5: w We'll find out, okay with with the under with 69 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 5: an under an eleven thirty game today? 70 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 71 00:03:54,680 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 5: So when I look in my personal life to upgrade something, 72 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 5: right or get rid of something, like I'm actually right 73 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 5: now looking at some kitchen utensils I mentioned yesterday, and 74 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 5: my kids are at camp for a month, so you 75 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 5: have to find something to do. And I'm gonna turn 76 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 5: to cooking because I'm fat and I like to eat, 77 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 5: and I'm gonna upgrade sei kitchen utensils. And I take 78 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 5: a while to find to get rid of something that 79 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 5: I have and find something new. And the goal when 80 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 5: I just find in my own personal life just just 81 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 5: kitchen utensils, right, I think that's the way we all operate, 82 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 5: is you want to find an upgrade. So if I 83 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 5: fire a kitchen tool, I want to find a better 84 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 5: kitchen tool. Right, I spend a couple of days today 85 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 5: is Prime Day or whatever for a couple I'm gonna 86 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 5: I'm gonna scour the internet today and look for products 87 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 5: to upgrade my kitchen supply. But I go into it 88 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 5: knowing that I have to upgrade the product I'm finding, 89 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 5: like a knife. Let's say, for example, and I know 90 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 5: going into it, if I fire my current knife, I'm 91 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 5: gonna try to find a better knife. Okay, sure, gossa 92 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 5: a hiring and firing for head coach. It should happen 93 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 5: in all sports leads. Right, you fire coach, you upgrade 94 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 5: to the next coach. But before you fire that coach, 95 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 5: you do the background checks, the background work, you call 96 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 5: agents to see who's available to upgrade that coach. Right, 97 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 5: the Knicks apparently did none of this. They rush to 98 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 5: fire Tom Thibodeau, who may look, I buy the argument 99 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 5: that maybe his message had gone stale. Right, he's a grinder. 100 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 5: He works his guys too hard, you know, after he 101 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 5: feels like a guy though that it rightfully makes sense 102 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 5: after five years I believe that. Like they're like, you 103 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 5: know what, too much grinding? Right, too much? We're moving on. 104 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 5: But again, Brian, moving on to what to what? You 105 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 5: have to have a plan. This is what a competent 106 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 5: teams do. They fire out of a motion, out of 107 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 5: in the moment anger that you didn't be Indiana. Indiana, 108 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 5: by the way, did the same thing to Boston did 109 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 5: the same thing to Cleveland Cavaliers did the same thing 110 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 5: the Knicks. It didn't matter who they played. They almost 111 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 5: did it, by the way to Oklahoma City Thunder. If 112 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 5: Hallyburn doesn't get hurt, so they you fired him out 113 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 5: of emotion without a plan, and then you go try 114 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 5: to trade for Jason Kidd. You know these things, they're 115 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 5: just so silly to me, Like you're not You should 116 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 5: have called Jason Kid beforehand. Hey, do you want to 117 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 5: come to us first of all? Too? Hey, Mavericks ownership, 118 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 5: would you trade your coach like you can do all 119 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 5: these things behind the scenes and then figure out a plan. 120 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 5: They had no plan. They by the way, my Lakers 121 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 5: did the same thing before they hired JJ Reddick. They 122 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 5: tried to get Dan Hurley, which wasn't plan at least, right, 123 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,239 Speaker 5: at least I'll give you. I'll give you that, Brian. 124 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 5: They at least had a plan, right. But they look silly. 125 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,799 Speaker 5: The Nicks looks silly here. Mike Brown is not any 126 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 5: better than Tom Thibodeau. There's just there's just he's not 127 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 5: He's not any better, And maybe he's nicer, and maybe 128 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 5: he's not as as cruel to playing time. As you know, 129 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 5: there are things that I think you might look at 130 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 5: and say to yourself, Okay, well there's some upgrades here, 131 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 5: just personality wise. But when you fire Tom Thibodeau, your 132 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 5: job is to find someone better, and at best it's 133 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 5: a lateral movement. Yeah, and it is a weeks of 134 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 5: incompetence from the front, which is no surprise. But that's 135 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 5: that's what we're right right now. 136 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing, is the first part of that 137 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 4: statement from Leon Rose. After a thorough and extensive search process, 138 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 4: that is the happiest description that you could come up with. 139 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 4: It was an embarrassing joke of a process to try 140 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 4: to find the next head coach, where they're literally calling 141 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 4: up teams, almost like the old school Yellow Pages, you know, like, Hey, 142 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 4: call up the Bulls and see if Billy Donovan's available. Nope, Nope, 143 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 4: they won't allow him to interview with us. It was 144 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 4: just a joke that Quinn Snyder with the the Atlanta Hawks, 145 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 4: and it was just such a weird search. Like you said, 146 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 4: a lot of things could have been done behind the scene, 147 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 4: behind the scenes, and they didn't do that. They just 148 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 4: played out in front of everybody, and they look like 149 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 4: a Mickey Mouse organization. And you're a big I know 150 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 4: this about you too. You're big about process. You know, 151 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 4: when it comes to say sports petting, if your process 152 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 4: is good, sometimes you get a bad result, you get 153 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 4: a fluky result. But if you stay true to your 154 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 4: process and it's good, eventually the wins will come your way. 155 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 4: Big process guy. It's the same thing with the coaching search. 156 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 4: The process for the Knicks to try to find their 157 00:08:55,760 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 4: coach was just a calamity. It's like, you know, if 158 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,239 Speaker 4: you're at the poker table, you know you will sometimes 159 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 4: win some hands even though your process was bad. You 160 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 4: might just luck out. And that's the best case scenario 161 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 4: for the Knicks. Their process was terrible. They I don't know, 162 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 4: they went all in with a mediocre starting hand. By 163 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 4: the way, our producer Justin Cooper, while we're talking about poker, 164 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 4: he will have a story of a strong finish in 165 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 4: a Vegas poker tournament later this hour. 166 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 5: Oh, I can't wait to off yesterday he was he 167 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 5: was in round. It was seconding, second day. 168 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, he well, a couple of He's in many different tournaments, right, 169 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 4: but one of the finished fantastic. Yeah, but it'd be 170 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 4: like going all in with like seven ten this weird 171 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 4: mediocre hand, Like, yeah, maybe you were aggressive pre flop, 172 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 4: you just you didn't hit anything on the flop, nothing 173 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 4: on the turn. 174 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 3: You're still just firing away. It's like, that's not a. 175 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 4: Great process, yes, and somehow you're expecting or hoping to wiggle. 176 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 3: Out of that. 177 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 4: That's really where the Knicks are. It's just and at 178 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 4: the end of the day, I don't see how ending 179 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 4: on Mike Brown is benefiting you in any way. This 180 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 4: is like you firing all of your kitchen utensils and 181 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 4: replacing them with worse kitchen you kitchen utensils. It's just 182 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 4: not benefiting you in any way. 183 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 5: It's not. And this is why the Knicks are going 184 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 5: to be the Knicks. And this is a year, by 185 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:38,359 Speaker 5: the way, where you know it's it's a it's a 186 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 5: great year to try to do something special in right, 187 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 5: in in in that in that in uh in the 188 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 5: Eastern Conference. Because the Celtics have punted on the season, 189 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 5: right with teens injury in their moves, we know, uh 190 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 5: that Indiana is basically not punted. But they're they announced 191 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 5: I think last night yesterday, right Hollyburn's out for this 192 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 5: They're just like he's done out for the season. We're 193 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 5: not even a rushing back, which which I think is 194 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 5: actually a very positive sign for a pro sports franchise. 195 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 5: Just understand that that he's he's our guy. Rushing him 196 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 5: back makes no sense to say he's out for the season. 197 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 5: Give him a full and look it maybe comes back 198 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 5: to play the last two weeks of the year. Brian, 199 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 5: it's certainly possible, right, who knows, but like he's just 200 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 5: not just don't don't don't bet on it, right, And 201 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 5: and so this is a year in the Eastern Conference 202 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 5: where like you know, there are teams that got better. 203 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 5: I think Atlanta got better, of course about Orlando, but 204 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 5: you know those I don't think they're not really easter 205 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 5: Evert's Finals winners. The Cows are gonna be good again. 206 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 5: But the Knicks had like of a real chance, but yeah, 207 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 5: they I don't know if this coaching change is really 208 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 5: going to make a difference in giving him that that 209 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 5: that chance. 210 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 4: Well, that's the other interesting thing to me is I 211 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 4: think coaching in today's day and age, certainly in the NBA, 212 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 4: you have to have one of two things going for you, right, 213 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 4: You either have to have management really like you, or 214 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 4: you have to have the players really like you. But 215 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 4: if you're zero for two, you're out of a gig. 216 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 4: I mean, that's just where we are now. I don't know, 217 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 4: it's it sure seems like this is James Dolan. His 218 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 4: fingerprints are all over this. So it doesn't seem like 219 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 4: James Dolan was incredibly fond of Tom Thibodeaux, and you 220 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:25,239 Speaker 4: could kind. 221 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 3: Of put two and two together. 222 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 4: Tibbs kind of rolls like I would expect him to 223 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 4: roll in the office, sort of like Bill Belichick, you know, 224 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 4: like Robert Kraft was fine with getting rid of Bill 225 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 4: Belichick after six championships. Jeff, you know, it's not like 226 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 4: Belichick is kissing Robert Craft's ring, and I can't expect 227 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 4: Tom Thibodeau to have done the same thing with James Dolan. 228 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 2: You know. 229 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 4: It's not like James Dolan shows up in the office 230 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 4: and Tibbs is like, Hey, Jimmy d what's going on, man, 231 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 4: how's the fishing going? Like that's just not who Tibbs is. 232 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,599 Speaker 4: He's like, I got stuff to do. I got to 233 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 4: grind away. I'm watching take Yeah, I don't have time 234 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 4: to talk to you, he seems like he would probably 235 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 4: be like that. And then we had the reports of 236 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 4: the exit interviews with the players and reportedly one or 237 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 4: a couple of players weren't too fond of playing for TIBs. 238 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 4: So you gotta have one of the two. Either management 239 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 4: is on board or the players are on board. But 240 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 4: if you're zero for too, you're out of a gig. 241 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 4: And that's the thing if you look at other head coaches. 242 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 4: Mike Malone had a lot of success with the Denver Nuggets. 243 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 4: He was out of a job, and the reports came 244 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 4: out where there were numerous players that were miffed, they 245 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 4: were disgruntled with how things were going. Yeah, and it 246 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 4: reminded me, while we're talking New York, Jeff, it reminded 247 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 4: me of some old school audio. So this was a 248 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 4: member of the New York Giants. This is Carl Banks. 249 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 4: Remember Carl Banks with Lawrence Taylor and all those great 250 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 4: Giants teams. So he was on NFL Network on America's Game, right, 251 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 4: they chronicle a Super Bowl winning team season, and this 252 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 4: is what Carl Banks had to say about his head coach, 253 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 4: Bill Parcells. 254 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 3: Check this out. This is great. 255 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 6: That is sort of the relationship Bill had with his players. 256 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 6: He would do something or say something crazy to you. 257 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 6: It affected players differently. I went through a long period 258 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 6: for Parcels and I we literally hated each other for 259 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 6: about an hour a day. I know some players to 260 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 6: this day that just don't like Bill Parcells, but they 261 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 6: played hard for him. 262 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 4: One of my favorite movies is Training Day with Denzel Washington, 263 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 4: and there's a line in the movie where he goes 264 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 4: that day is dead dog. We don't roll like that 265 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 4: no more. Right, That's where we are with coaching. What 266 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 4: Carl Banks explained with Bill Parcells and players hating this guy, 267 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 4: but they played hard for him. Yeah, that's no longer today. 268 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 4: The players that hate their head coach, they just let 269 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 4: it be known and that coach is most likely out 270 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 4: of a gig. So it's a really interesting thing you 271 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 4: gotta do as a current head coach in the NBA. 272 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 4: You got to push your players, You got to hold 273 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 4: them accountable, and you still have to get them to 274 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 4: like you. 275 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 3: That is not an easy thing to do. 276 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 5: It's not easy. I thought you were going to the King 277 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 5: Kong line, but I. 278 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 3: Love that one too. 279 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, if we're gonna have the mute button 280 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 5: ready to go or the dumb button. I look, I 281 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 5: think you're absolutely right, right, it's a it's a it's 282 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 5: a players run league. You have to be friendly with 283 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 5: the players or the coaches. But sometimes and you mentioned 284 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 5: New England, right, like the winning offsets that. Now, they 285 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 5: didn't do the winning in New York and quite the 286 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 5: fashion that I guess maybe they wanted, but they they 287 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 5: want a lot, Ryan, It's not like they didn't win, right, Like, 288 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 5: they want a lot for what they have been historically. 289 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 5: So you can't make the argument that they didn't win 290 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 5: at the level maybe that they wanted, but they won 291 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 5: more they had won in many, many years. But yeah, 292 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 5: the grind of that eventually gets old, right, And if 293 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 5: the championships and winning don't come, then people do get 294 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 5: tired of it. And you're right, Tim's is probably not 295 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 5: coming in there with coffee and donuts every day saying 296 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 5: how was your night? Right? You know, hey, did you 297 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 5: watch the show last night? He's not doing that. But 298 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 5: you also know that when you hire him, so it 299 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 5: shouldn't be surprised when you don't get that fun loving 300 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 5: guy to show up in the in the building every day. 301 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 5: But again, it should off, you should offset that feeling 302 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 5: with the winning, Like that's what the winning is is 303 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 5: sort of for right, is if you don't like the 304 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 5: coach because he's a little callous, well the winning should 305 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 5: help take care of that. And obviously at the end 306 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 5: it didn't, and they're not gonna win with Mike Brown 307 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 5: in my opinion, So at least you have a coach. 308 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 5: Maybe you like espearisly the X interview thing, it's pretty interesting, right, So, 309 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 5: you know, ex interviews are what you do as a 310 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 5: player right after the season is over, and you do 311 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 5: them immediately right after the scene is over, and a 312 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 5: lot lot of times, you know, the season doesn't end 313 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 5: the way you wanted to. And you know, not saying 314 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 5: they're contentious interviews, but it's like, maybe not the best 315 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 5: time to do them. I do wonder if if this 316 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 5: had been done on a different day, different time, the 317 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 5: actually interviews go a little bit better for everybody evolved. 318 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's a legit statement right there, for sure. 319 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 4: I just think a lot of times. Last thing I'll 320 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 4: say is we put x'es and o's like on a 321 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 4: too high of a pedestal. I'm not saying exce's and 322 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 4: o's don't matter. They certainly do. But it just talking 323 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 4: about Tibbs, it makes me think of Phil Jackson, you know, 324 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 4: think of Phil Jackson and the success he had with 325 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 4: the Lakers, with the Bulls, winning all those championships and 326 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 4: just managing people, in managing egos and like crazy Rodman 327 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 4: wants to go to Vegas during the season. You know 328 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 4: how many coaches would not have handled that the same way. 329 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 4: And Phil's like, you know what, let's let him do it. 330 00:17:58,160 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 4: I think he needs the party and get this out 331 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 4: of the system. There are a lot of coaches that 332 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 4: would never even think about doing that. That's has nothing 333 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 4: to do with the triangle and x's and o's and 334 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 4: anything like that. It's managing people. It's coaching players hard 335 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 4: and getting them to still respect you and like you, 336 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 4: because if they don't, they're probably not gonna listen to 337 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 4: a word you have to say. It's it's such a 338 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 4: skill to have. 339 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 5: Can you imagine that now if a player that the 340 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 5: attention that would garner, if a player was like, you 341 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 5: know what, I'm I'm just uh, I'm gonna go to 342 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 5: Vegas a couple of days. I'm just over this right now. 343 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 4: That's yeah, I know, but that's that's that's coaching in 344 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 4: today's game, you know. And that was in the nineties, 345 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 4: but I think even now it's you've got to be 346 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 4: able to man push your players, listen to your players, 347 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,479 Speaker 4: get the best out of your players, and still at 348 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 4: the same time not have them hate your guts. 349 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 5: That that is it's a very fun line. It feels like, yeah, 350 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 5: Harthan's coaches to walk. 351 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 4: It pretty crazy, no doubt. All right, we're off and running. 352 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 4: Coming up next. Hey, Jeff sent me a text last 353 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 4: night and was like, I'd like to come bearing gifts today. 354 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 3: I've got a topic idea for you. Oh ran it 355 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 3: find me. 356 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 4: I said, Man, let's go here, and not to let 357 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 4: the cat out of the bag. It is about ball. 358 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 4: So I'm on board. I think you will be too. 359 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 4: We'll get into that next. He's Jeff Schwartz. 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I'll tell 382 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 4: you what Jeff. Oreo is hanging out again. She is 383 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 4: fired up for some sports talk radio. For the people 384 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 4: that don't know this, Oreo is not our cat. I'm 385 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 4: here in Vegas with my girlfriend. Oreo is a neighborhood 386 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 4: cat who just comes over and hangs out all the time. 387 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 3: And so Oreo is fired up. 388 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 5: She's a. 389 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 4: The bad thing is I love Oreo to death, but 390 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 4: she is scratching up these chairs something fierce. Jeff, I 391 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 4: don't know what's going on here, but she's clawing them up. 392 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 4: They're starting to look pretty ragged. And they're not our chairs, 393 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 4: you know, we're. 394 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 5: Just you showed us a picture of Oreo the other day. 395 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 5: Oreo looks to be completely black? Why Oreo? Why don't 396 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 5: oreos look I maybe I'm mistaken, don't don't they normally 397 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 5: have some sort of white films. 398 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 4: That's true, Yeah, you're right about that, but we didn't 399 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 4: you know, we didn't consider that. I guess it's a 400 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 4: technicality that is very valid, but we didn't think about that. 401 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 4: We just thought it was a cool name. 402 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 5: So we won't. How does Oreole get into the house? 403 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 4: She meow's outside. Oh that's kind of like the doorbell, 404 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 4: meow's outside. Or she'll get a little aggressive, she'll kind 405 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 4: of like claw the door, you know, she'll and it'll 406 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 4: make some noise and and we're like, oh, Oreos here 407 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 4: she wants to hang out, you know what. 408 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, we did advantage of Yeah, that's where I keeps 409 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 5: coming back. 410 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 4: You have some dry food, We got some wet food 411 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 4: for some water, you know, so she's oftentimes she'll uh, 412 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 4: you know, she'll knock or meow and walk right in 413 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 4: and just start eating immediately. 414 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 5: The neighbors know you have her. I don't think so, 415 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 5: is am or her you know. 416 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: To her? 417 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, do they know you have her? 418 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 4: I don't think so. I don't believe so. But this 419 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 4: is kind of the opposite of what happened to Lorena. 420 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 4: Lorena had a cat and all of a sudden, it's 421 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,959 Speaker 4: the same thing she started. This cat started visiting a neighbor, 422 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 4: and then when Lorena's cat came home, the cat had 423 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 4: a necklace on from someone else, and Lorena's like, what 424 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 4: is going on here? 425 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 3: And that's kind of like trying to steal my cat? Yeah, 426 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 3: that's role reversal. 427 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 4: Like my girlfriend made a necklace for Oreo and she 428 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 4: Orio almost left with this thing on. 429 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, we got to take the necklace off. They're 430 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: gonna know, it's gonna blow the whole operation, you know. 431 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 4: So well, if this right now, that that's the other 432 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 4: twist here, that that could be a case just maybe 433 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 4: they're big Fox Sports radio fans and they're like, who. 434 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 5: Who would be? 435 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, Oreo We don't know any of her history, don't 436 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 4: know her real name, don't know anything. 437 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 5: Just comes over, just like just ruining all your furniture. 438 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 3: It just comes over, hangs out. 439 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, the multiple pictures and videos that you have shown 440 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 8: me off Oreo. Yeah, it doesn't look like Oreo is 441 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 8: like overweight or anything. It looks look Oreo looks like 442 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 8: a skinny cat. So I can't imagine, like, are the 443 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 8: owner other Like is it just a random stray cat 444 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 8: because it doesn't look like it's getting double meals. 445 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's got a home, but I'm not sure where 446 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 4: it is, Like, how do you know? Because she's just 447 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 4: not astray, just strictly outdoor cat. 448 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 3: You know you can tell that. Yeah, it's living in 449 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 3: your house for only half the time. 450 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 4: You know she's got it's got another life and yeah 451 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 4: half the time you think. I'm pretty sure. I can't 452 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 4: imagine she's just outdoors all the time. She would look 453 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 4: way different if she were outside. 454 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 5: Okay, Well, oriol must look hearing you. Maybe your radio 455 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 5: voice sues her. 456 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 4: Maybe I don't know what it is, but love that 457 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 4: she hangs out. Okay, So Jeff, you've got an idea today. 458 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,959 Speaker 4: So college football twenty six. It came out yesterday, very 459 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 4: popular video. Yes, yeah, And so you're like, hey, how 460 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 4: about we talk some college football. Why don't we come 461 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 4: up with if you pick one offense and one defense 462 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 4: and one coaching staff to build the best college football 463 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 4: team this season in real life? 464 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 5: Right? 465 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 4: Like you're going with real life units offense, defense, and 466 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 4: coaching wise? 467 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 3: What would your team look like? What three units would 468 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 3: you choose here? 469 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 5: Jeff? So this is interesting, right, So I'm I'll pull 470 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 5: up the rankings for you just to we could talking 471 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 5: about this. Okay, So the number one offense is ready Alabama, Georgia. 472 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 5: You're Irish ninety four? 473 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 3: All my ghosts, let's go. 474 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 5: So okay, here's one thing about the Irish. Who's the 475 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 5: quarterback down? 476 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 4: It's probably gonna be CJ. Carr, I'd imagine, so true 477 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 4: freshman most likely. It seems like it's gonna be him. 478 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 5: But the ninety four raid offense to a true freshman, 479 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 5: yeah good, it's a ninety one rated offense with a 480 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 5: freshman at quarterback. Michigan is eighty nine with a freshman 481 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 5: and quarterback. He's still high for freshmen and quarterback, Brian, 482 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 5: don't they? Yeah? 483 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 4: That is pretty high. Yeah, it's yeah, like Ohio State. 484 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 4: I went with Ohio States offense just because man, they 485 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 4: just reload year after year after year after year. And 486 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 4: when you've got Jeremiah Smith, who might be the best 487 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 4: football player in college football regardless of position, Cardinell Tate 488 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 4: is still there. That's a lot of talent that you 489 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 4: have on your side. If you're like the first year 490 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 4: starting quarterback, that's a big deal. 491 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 5: It's Julian Sands going to start for Ohio State most 492 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 5: likely right as a first year guy. I believe he 493 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 5: was last year, right, so they at least have a 494 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 5: little bit of like you know of of I've been 495 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 5: in college football a little bit, but these numbers are 496 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 5: super high for like for freshman quarterback I haven't played before. 497 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 5: I'm kind of surprised to see numbers like that so high. 498 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 5: I think, Look, I don't know how good or bad 499 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 5: arches compared to what we think he's going to be 500 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 5: right or what he can be. But I want what 501 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 5: text us about buddy. I think when you look at 502 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 5: Stark's history, one thing we know he can do is 503 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 5: do offense right. And we know that arch is good. 504 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 5: How how pro ready is he all those things I 505 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 5: think are fair questions. But Texas, their personnel is very good. 506 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 5: I have to replace guys every year, but that's the 507 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 5: way college football works. Their offensive line is good, the 508 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 5: run game is good, and they have variety when you 509 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 5: can run and pass like like they can. And Arch 510 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 5: is supremely talented. And maybe I'm I'm just projecting what 511 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 5: I think he can be. I will Texas, who's ready 512 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 5: ninety one in the game, so right below the big 513 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 5: dogs I am. I'm not surprised by Alabama being so high, 514 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 5: but people are not downs are wrong. We're in Alabama, yeah, 515 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 5: but they didn't have what people thought they would be 516 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 5: last year. But I'll tell you what mckilln Debor everywhere 517 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 5: he's been, He's won everywhere he's been. So I don't 518 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 5: know why people are down in Alabama just in general, 519 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 5: but I won with Texas. Yeah. 520 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 4: Really interested to see year two with the Boar over 521 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 4: there in Bama. Bama land, especially offensively right like Jalen 522 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 4: Milroe last year. I don't know man like just his 523 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 4: college experience. Where he's up, he's down. He's a little consistent. 524 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 4: He has great running ability, passing ability. At times it's 525 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 4: like it is all or nothing. That dude can throw 526 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 4: a bomb like the best of them, but the other 527 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 4: stuff was kind of like, yeash, it's kind of all 528 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 4: or nothing on these drives. So I'm gonna see if 529 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 4: Bama has more consistency offensively this year. 530 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 3: But yeah, I went with Ohio State. 531 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 4: I think that what's crazy to me, this one blows 532 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 4: my mind, Jeff, is they lost a lot of talent 533 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 4: from their national championship team, Right, yeah, yeah, But what 534 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 4: I think of is one Ryan Day, you're averaging at 535 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 4: least thirty points every year he's been there, and so 536 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 4: they just reload. 537 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 3: If you think of c. J. 538 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 4: Stroud when he was at Ohio State, he had five 539 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 4: first round wide receivers to throw to during his time 540 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 4: in college. 541 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 3: Crazy, right, that's that's just wide receiver. Like, he had 542 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 3: five first round dudes. 543 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 4: He had Garrett Wilson with the Jets, Chris Olave with 544 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 4: the Saints, he had Jackson Smith and Jigba. Now what 545 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 4: the Seahawks doing is, yeah, they had Marvin Harrison junior, 546 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 4: and then he had a Mecca Buca who just got 547 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 4: selected in the first round with Tampa. He had all 548 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 4: those dudes in college. They had first round you know, 549 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 4: offensive tackle. He had other draft picks, talent galore, and 550 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 4: all they did was reload and win a championship shortly 551 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 4: after the CJ. 552 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 3: Stroud years. That's just what they do at Ohio State. 553 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 3: So I go with them. 554 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 4: I actually went with Texas's defense. Okay, as my selection here. 555 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 4: They just have they just have dudes, Jeff. They're fast, 556 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 4: they're disruptive, they're stout. You got Anthony Hill, He's a 557 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 4: superstar linebacker, probably the best in the country, one hundred 558 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 4: and thirteen tackles last season. Colin Simmons is nasty, a 559 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 4: really strong pass rusher, might be the most feared pass 560 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 4: rusher in the SEC. I went with Texas's defense. 561 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 5: So look at the defensive rankings for those agains. Like 562 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 5: just talk about, you know, to one of the teams, 563 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 5: you think, right, Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State, Ohio State game. 564 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 5: They've lost so much on defense and lost off and 565 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 5: lost their defensive coordator to Penn State. Penn Sate. Moulla 566 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 5: is eighty nine. Kind of surprised with the talent they 567 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 5: have in Jim Knowles coming over Oregon's ninety four. I mean, 568 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 5: I think hopefully, Yeah, fingers Texas ninety four. It comes 569 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 5: in ninety four, You're Irish ninety one. Our teams are 570 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 5: good this year, buddy, let's go. 571 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 3: Let's go. Let's just sign up for Ducks Irish in. 572 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 5: The That would break that would I think that would 573 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 5: break our radio show, Ducks Irish would break us. It 574 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 5: would be it would be, you know, the the college 575 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 5: football season. I don't know how you feel feel this 576 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 5: way about Notre Dame. I feel this way about Oregon, 577 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 5: and we're both pro football fans as well. Is with 578 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 5: the playoff the way it is now, I think this 579 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 5: is are they doing they expand for this season or 580 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 5: it is the next season? 581 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 3: I you know what, I'm not sure. 582 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 5: Yes, it's irrelevant to discussion about our teams. 583 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna say it's this year. They're still like 584 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 4: dotting the eyes crossing the tea. 585 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I used yeah, but the. 586 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 5: I think it was twenty. But it doesn't matter. The 587 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 5: point of this is this, So in the NFL's NFL fans, 588 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 5: if your team loses the game, you're bummed, right, but 589 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 5: it's not the end of the season. Okay. Previous to 590 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 5: the twelve team playoff, if you were a fan of 591 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,959 Speaker 5: one of these teams at the top, right, Organ Allabambahao State, Texas, Georgia, Clemson, 592 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 5: Notre Dame, Michigan, Elos Right one loss and you're like, 593 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 5: oh boy, the one more now before we don't make 594 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 5: the playoff. It felt like the weight of that was 595 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 5: so heavy on you as a fan, no doubt with 596 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 5: the playoff. Now, I view organ season from the pro 597 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 5: model of like, oh, well we lost the game, oopsie, 598 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 5: Like it happens. You can lose two gaming with Oregon schedule, 599 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 5: they're going at worse ten and two, Like that's just 600 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 5: what they play at Penn State, which will be hard 601 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 5: a week five, I think it is, and they'll be 602 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 5: fair in every other game of the season, and like 603 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 5: either go ten and two you're in the playoff? Yeah, 604 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 5: from the big ten and it just it's a different 605 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 5: way to so I every game that I watched this 606 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 5: year I view from the lens of like, okay, were 607 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 5: we ready to play a playoff game? Are ready to 608 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 5: play off? States? Or I played Georgia. It's a it's 609 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 5: a different viewing experience as a fan. Sure you feel 610 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 5: this way about your Irish where it's like, yeah, they have. 611 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 5: Irish tend to have more weird things happen that Oregon 612 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 5: does with wins and losses sometimes. But like you because 613 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,959 Speaker 5: under Dan Lanning, who do have for three years now, 614 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 5: we've only had one game we've lost that we shouldn't like, 615 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 5: that's it in three years and that was Oregon State. 616 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 5: They needed a you know, a twenty one point fourth 617 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 5: quarter comeback to win that game. So like, we don't 618 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 5: lose those games. And so because Irish fan like you 619 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 5: could drop one game, yeah, two games and you're still 620 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 5: in the postseason where that wasn't the case. 621 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 4: It's different than it was. I mean, listen, it's I'll 622 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 4: put it this way. If Notre Dame that's where I'm 623 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 4: from South Bend. If Notre Dame loses a college football game, immediately, 624 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 4: you know, I'm very unhappy about it. But then to 625 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 4: what you're saying is you're like, okay, but you do 626 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 4: get a mull again. They're still alive, you know that 627 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 4: sort of thing. So it's like I don't just ug 628 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 4: my shoulders immediately. It still stings, but that's the Yeah, 629 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 4: it's different is over though. 630 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 5: Which is which is the way it feels like when 631 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 5: a lot when a lot of these teams. When you 632 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 5: your favorite team loses, it. 633 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 4: Just like that's over. It's certainly different. So real quick, 634 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 4: what coaching staff did. 635 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 5: You go with? I mean, I don't know how you 636 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 5: don't just pick Georgia. 637 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I went with Kirby as well. 638 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I will say I think I think the Penn 639 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 5: State wants a pretty good coaching staff James Franklin and 640 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 5: kle Nikki and and now Jim Knowles. The problem with 641 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 5: Penn State is they just they got to win the 642 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 5: game that they that they haven't won that years. 643 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 4: Right, They're like, yeah, that little uh winning big games 644 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 4: the fine print. 645 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 2: Right. 646 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 5: You know something that's crazy about James Franklin because you 647 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 5: do the show on Saturdays and I don't get to 648 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 5: talk to you about this. Yeah, I'll get to do 649 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 5: my podcast when he's a favorite of between seven and 650 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 5: twenty one points is something like nineteen and one overall 651 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 5: in his career, like he they don't. But the problem 652 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 5: is when they're underdogs, they lose so uh, like they 653 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 5: like if they have to get over that hurdle. But 654 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 5: Penn State is gonna finish probably no worse than the 655 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 5: ten wins. Organ will be no worse than ten wins. 656 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 5: I mean, it's just schedule, right, You're just you're at 657 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 5: the point of of you know with some of these 658 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 5: teams that it's just the schedule and the talent. With recruiting, 659 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 5: you're never not gonna win ten games. Yeah, And that's 660 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 5: the thing about the sport. It's just it's a different 661 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 5: sport now with the way people recruit and also just 662 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 5: with the playoff. 663 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 4: I guess that's the question is how long is your parlay? 664 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 4: Is it a seven legue parlay? You're to make the 665 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 4: playoff parlay? 666 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't done it. I haven't done it yet, 667 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 5: but it's gonna it's gonna be Oregon, Penn State, Notre Dame. 668 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 8: Uh. 669 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 5: I think I think SEC teams is kind of interesting 670 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 5: because they do play a tougher schedule. As much as 671 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 5: we like to joke about that seat shocks, but I 672 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 5: think you look at at I think Clemson's probably in. 673 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 5: I would have imagine, yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna 674 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 5: be a lot. You don't have to dissuade me from 675 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 5: some of these teams, like again, Oregon, Penn State, Ohio 676 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 5: State's probably a yes, But again, quarterbacks still I mean, 677 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 5: there's that thing about Penn State organ like there's no 678 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 5: quarterback questions like organized Dante Moore. Penn State has drew 679 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 5: all like you know what you are. Those teams are 680 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,479 Speaker 5: in Clemson's in uh you know I I think George 681 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 5: is probably in Texas. Schedule is kind of tough, could 682 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 5: but you know so, I yeah, I mean I will 683 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 5: have a multiple team parlay with the playoffs. You have, right, 684 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 5: you're a college. 685 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 4: Sports fan, you could switch it up. You have a 686 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 4: couple of like three leg variety parlays. 687 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 3: Well round robin, just a little round robin it, you know. 688 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 4: Different combinations, and you can have your one grand Salami 689 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 4: parlay over there, you know, seven Alma. Hopefully Crack is 690 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 4: not listening to this segment. He would he would be 691 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 4: disgusted by this parlay talk over here. But coming up next, 692 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 4: I've got a week one an NFL bet that you might. 693 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 3: Be interested in. 694 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 4: Oh okay, well we'll compare notes on that. He's Jeff Schwartz, 695 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 4: I'm Brian No. We're in for two Pros and a 696 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 4: Cup of Joe right here on Fox Sports Radio. 697 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 698 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 2: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 699 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 2: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific. 700 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 3: He's Jeff Schwartz. 701 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 4: I'm Brian no In for two Pros and a Cup 702 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 4: of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. I'll tell you 703 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:34,240 Speaker 4: what that is. Great mood bumper music right there, little Nirvana. 704 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 4: Very good call by Lorena right there. Come as you are. 705 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 4: Any love for like the grunge scene over there, Jeff, 706 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 4: I know you're not mister metalhead. 707 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 3: What do you get down? You're okay with grunge a 708 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 3: little bit? Yeah, litill you dabble. 709 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 5: I mean I dabble in it, like you know some 710 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 5: workout music. You know, we'll dabble in here and there. 711 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 5: I mean, I you know, I'm still still rocking the 712 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 5: electric dance music for the majority of my of my 713 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 5: workouts now, but I'll put some some grunge on every 714 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 5: now and then. 715 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 3: You know, next hour. 716 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 4: Because we were talking about this yesterday with the the 717 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 4: lawsuits about copyright infringement and all that, I went and 718 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 4: I dug up the story. 719 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 3: I found it. We're gonna do this next hour. 720 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 4: I grab some audio and let me just say that 721 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 4: a brief portion of it blends my music with your music. Okay, 722 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 4: just kind of drive a point home. So you have 723 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 4: that to look forward to. 724 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 5: It about an hour right now. 725 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 4: It should be a lot of fun. So what's funny, Jeff, 726 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 4: is you get a kick out of this. I'll give 727 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 4: you my week one bet in a second. 728 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 5: Okay. 729 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 4: But my head is always spinning when it comes to, hey, 730 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 4: what's gonna happen next. As a sports better, you have 731 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 4: to anticipate what's gonna happen, right of course. And so 732 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 4: the other day, you'd appreciate this. When we're doing the show, 733 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 4: the Countdown Show on Sunday morning, a lot of the 734 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 4: prop bets haven't been posted yet, you know, Like we 735 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 4: don't have picture prop bets the night before. We don't 736 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 4: have WNBA prop bets the night before. 737 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 3: So a lot of times I'll I'll go to sleep 738 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 3: and I'm thinking about, hey, what about this possibility? What 739 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 3: about that? And so the other night, I just I 740 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 3: was so tired, I didn't even realize this. 741 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 4: I sort of woke up and wrote a note on 742 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 4: my phone and when I woke up, it said Purdue 743 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 4: team total over. It's like Purdue is not playing anything. 744 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 2: Right now. 745 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,399 Speaker 4: I don't know what I was thinking. I was half 746 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 4: asleep and I just thought that was hilarious. 747 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 5: Where I'm like, oh, that over for the season. 748 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 4: No, No, it was as if I was just confused 749 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 4: thinking that might be one of the bets on Sunday morning, 750 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 4: you know, when clearly there's nothing in season. 751 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 3: It was just a total mistake. I don't know what 752 00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 3: I was thinking of. 753 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 5: I was half a you're ready for controoball season. 754 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. 755 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 4: Maybe maybe it's college basketball, but it's like a college 756 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 4: basketball pick. But at any event, my week one bet 757 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 4: that I have circled here, Jeff, you tell me what 758 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 4: you think about this. 759 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 3: It's a total. 760 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 4: I'm looking at Giants at Washington. Okay, the total is 761 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 4: forty five and a half. How are they going over? 762 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 4: I love the under in this situation here where listen. 763 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 4: I love Jayden Daniels. He had a special rookie season. Yeah, 764 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 4: but to hit the ground running, you got Deebo Samuel 765 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 4: over there, you have Laramie Tunzel. You might not be 766 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 4: a well oiled machine come Week one against the divisional opponent. 767 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 4: Right and by the way, the Giants, so they selected 768 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 4: Abdul Carter with the number three overall pick. You have 769 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 4: him along with Brian Burns and Cavon Thibodeau. That's a 770 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 4: lot of pass rush talent that the Giants have and 771 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 4: so and also look at the Giants offense. How many 772 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,479 Speaker 4: points are they scoring? Yeah, Washington wasn't great against the rush. 773 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 4: The Giants aren't great rushing it. So you're expecting what 774 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 4: Russell Wilson to throw it to Moleak Neighbors seventeen times? 775 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 4: How are the Giants putting up a ton of points? 776 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 4: I just I think the under is a solid play 777 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 4: in Giants Commanders Week one. 778 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,359 Speaker 5: Well, I think it's worth noting the Giants defense last 779 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 5: year wasn't bad, right, they added You mentioned the added 780 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 5: to it, you know some week one Jitters. I mean, 781 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 5: this game, by the way, is going to be the 782 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 5: favorite play of all the squares. Taking Washington minus is 783 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 5: the seven right now? Oh man, we were talking on 784 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 5: our text start about one of the squares that that 785 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 5: we fade. They will be on Washington in this game. 786 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 5: Right I'm gonna have to take the Giants. I know 787 00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 5: right now I will be betting on the Giants week 788 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 5: one because everyone's gonna be on Washington and I hate 789 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 5: myself for it, but that's the way it works in 790 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 5: the gambling space. 791 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 4: You're right, Yeah, it'll probably be giants at least covering, 792 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,240 Speaker 4: maybe not winning, but covering that somehow someway. Yeah, probably 793 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 4: will all right, come it up next. Believe it or not, 794 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 4: a bunch of negativity can actually be a great thing.