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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're unclear

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Speaker 1: whether we're supposed to celebrate Saint Patrick's state the weekend

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Speaker 1: Irish girl, I guess I'll have to do both. It's Friday,

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Speaker 1: March fourteenth, aka Pie Day, so while we usually celebrate

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Speaker 2: Slices, treat yourself to a.

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Speaker 1: Slice of something a little sweeter today, and maybe test

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Speaker 1: out your math knowledge while you're at it. See if

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Speaker 1: you could beat my record of memorized digits after the

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Speaker 1: decimal three point one, four and amount. On today's show,

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Speaker 1: we'll be chatting with marilynd women's basketball head coach Brenda

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Speaker 1: Freeze about leading the Terps to their first national title

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Speaker 1: in six speed dating in the transfer Portal, era, to

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Speaker 1: squad's Big Ten rivalry with Ohio State, and how her

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Speaker 1: team's feel and headed into the NCAA Tournament. Plus buzzer

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Speaker 1: beaters and overtime magic and Ode to Potatoes and your

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Speaker 1: welcome back slices. Here's what you need to know today

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Speaker 1: in college hoops, there were a couple wild endings in

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Speaker 1: conference tournaments on Wednesday night. First, the Montana State Bobcats

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Speaker 1: downed in state rival Montana fifty eight to fifty seven

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Speaker 1: now effectually known as starch Madness. Thanks Idaho, a last

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Speaker 1: second put back layup by Merra Dykster at the buzzer

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Speaker 1: teammate Esmerelda Morales led all scorers with twenty five points.

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Speaker 1: The win was the cherry on top of a near

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Speaker 1: immaculate season. Montana State won the Big Sky regular season

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Speaker 1: title outright, dropping only one of their eighteen conference games. Then,

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Speaker 1: the Bobcats became the first team in Big Sky Tournament

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Speaker 1: thirty points over Northern Colorado and Idaho State. With the

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Speaker 1: for yourself. Over in the Mountain West Conference, the San

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Speaker 1: Diego State Aztecs clinched an automatic bid to the Big

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Speaker 1: Dance via a seventy two to sixty eight triple overtime

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Speaker 1: game in the history of the conference's tournament. The Cowgirls

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Speaker 2: Wyoming never led in OT.

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Speaker 1: Veronica Cheffe led San Diego State with twenty four points,

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Speaker 1: the NWSL, where the regular season gets under way tonight.

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Speaker 1: If you missed yesterday's show, we included a full team

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Speaker 1: season opener tonight against the Orlando Pride, with head coach

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Speaker 1: end quote. The club announced in January that the star

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Speaker 1: In pro vibes, It's week ten of the Love season

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Speaker 1: and players are in Houston this weekend for three matches

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Speaker 1: the Love Finals get started on April tenth. We'll link

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Speaker 1: Association of Volleyball Professionals aka the AVP, the biggest and

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Speaker 1: Per report by Brian Steinberg in Variety, a package of

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Speaker 1: first end of season award winners that includes first team

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Speaker 1: awards are still to come. Unrivaled playoffs get underway on

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Speaker 1: They ended the regular season seven and seven and on

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Speaker 1: Catch all the semi finals Sunday doubleheader action tip it

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Speaker 1: off at seven thirty pm Eastern on TNT and True TV.

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Speaker 1: A Little Sports Business News Monarch Collective, a private equity

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Speaker 1: three NWSL teams, Angel City, San Diego and the new

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Speaker 1: To give a huge shout out to Alexa Gasparo, who

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Speaker 1: She's been the head coach of the University of Maryland

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Speaker 1: women's basketball team since two thousand and two, leading the

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Speaker 1: Coach of the Year in two thousand. She's a mom

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Speaker 1: to teenage twin boys, the star of the video series

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Speaker 1: Under the Show, which is in its twenty first season,

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Speaker 2: I want to start with that sixth season.

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Speaker 1: You were just four years into your journey with the

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Speaker 1: So, how long after a tournament loss an agonizing do

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Speaker 5: I think as a coach, you always take it with you.

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Speaker 5: You know, they know there's not going to be any drama.

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Speaker 1: In an honest moment, does it ever bother you that

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Speaker 4: I mean, I.

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Speaker 4: I am who I am.

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Speaker 5: I've never gotten into it for some sort of name

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Speaker 2: That'll guarantee you some run on the internet? Yeah, not

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Speaker 1: You know, some of the top players that you coached

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Speaker 5: You know, coach McGuff does a great job at Ohio State,

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00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,360
Speaker 5: and just back and forth through the years, we've had

438
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 5: that history. You know, even this year, our last game

439
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,919
Speaker 5: of the season, you know, we were both new we

440
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 5: had a double by we were going into that game

441
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 5: and you know, neither team really had to win that

442
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 5: game to secure anything, and it felt like an NCAA

443
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 5: tournament game.

444
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 4: Both teams just went added.

445
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 5: It went into overtime and we were fortunate to get

446
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,920
Speaker 5: the win. But you know, those games have been really intense.

447
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's really interesting to see teams adjust to

448
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,360
Speaker 1: a new conference and get used to playing in new

449
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 1: buildings and against opposing you know, fans, and which teams

450
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 1: organically become rivals and which ones it feels a little

451
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 1: bit forced.

452
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 2: But let's talk about this year's team.

453
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,360
Speaker 1: You returned only one player from last year, starting five,

454
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,360
Speaker 1: Your roster looked almost completely different front to back. How

455
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: do you quickly create team chemistry and buy and from

456
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 1: the new look players.

457
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 5: Our stuff is really intentional with the team building really

458
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 5: the bonding piece of it. We were fortunate this past

459
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 5: year to be able to take a foreign trip, so

460
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 5: right now the fact when they got to campus about

461
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 5: three weeks later, we were.

462
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 4: Going over to Croatia.

463
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 5: What a better way to be able to bond for

464
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 5: eleven days over in another country. And that really took

465
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,199
Speaker 5: off for us between that trip, the practices, the games

466
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 5: that we were able to have. But even you know

467
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 5: in a year when you're not taking that for us,

468
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 5: it's intentional. In the summertime, we'll do a lot more activities,

469
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 5: events at the house really, you know, trying to build

470
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 5: that chemistry even before your season gets started. We'll always

471
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 5: you know, take a trip away, a weekend away where

472
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,959
Speaker 5: we spend time together because I think when you're breaking

473
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 5: bread and you have the overnights and you kind of

474
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 5: get to let your guard down, both as players and coaches,

475
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 5: you're able to to know each other a lot better,

476
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 5: which then is going to build that chemistry on the

477
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 5: court for your team that you have.

478
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Speaker 2: Best memory from Croatia.

479
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 4: The first thing that comes to mind ziplining.

480
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 5: Oh, I mean that was unbelievable and just really seeing

481
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 5: some kids get, you know, out of their comfort zone,

482
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 5: the fear I think for all of us, you know,

483
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 5: to be up on these mountains and be going through it.

484
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 4: So those a pretty neat event.

485
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:27,360
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

486
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Speaker 1: What should our listeners know about your team heading into

487
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: March Madness? They're gonna sit down, make their brackets or

488
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,199
Speaker 1: pick the team they want to root for if they

489
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 1: don't have a rooting interest.

490
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 2: What so they know about the Terps one?

491
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 4: You know, I went bet against us.

492
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,360
Speaker 5: You know when this team, you know, is fighting hard

493
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 5: for each other and you know they're really really good

494
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 5: at drawing fouls and getting to the free throw line

495
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 5: and you know, really playing for one another.

496
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 1: Okay, Basketball often referred to as a game of runs.

497
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 1: Seasons can be like that too. This year had a

498
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 1: lot ups and downs with injuries, some really big wins,

499
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 1: some disappointing losses. And I know that fans would like

500
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 1: to see their team win every single game. But as

501
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: a coach, particularly as you head into March Madness, I

502
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: imagine you like one or two l's to see the

503
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: team react to that, to see how they get through adversity,

504
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: to see them perhaps get behind in a game and

505
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: recognize that they could come back to sort of make

506
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: sure that you're developing and continuing to evolve and hitting

507
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: your peak at the right time. How do you balance

508
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: sort of getting really concerned when you have a loss

509
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 1: versus Okay, here's what we might have learned from that,

510
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: and I think we're going to be better down the road.

511
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think for us, you know, we always win

512
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 5: or lose. We evaluate every game, and you know, we've

513
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 5: had wins that could feel like losses and vice versus.

514
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 5: So I think, you know, similar to what I said

515
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 5: when I end a season is you've got to go back,

516
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 5: watch film, make it teachable to what lessons you can learn,

517
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 5: and even out of losses, there's a lot of great

518
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 5: lessons that you can learn that really will help.

519
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 4: You so you don't make the same mistakes twice.

520
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 5: And so for us, once we closed that book, that

521
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 5: film session, you know, we're onto the next and for

522
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 5: us that's in the past and it's just moving forward

523
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 5: to get better.

524
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 1: It's sort of a long debate in the talking Head

525
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: sports community when a team has gone undefeated a whole season,

526
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: especially if they're winning by double digits pretty much every time,

527
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: whether they'll get to the tournament and not be able

528
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: to handle if they get behind a team that's not

529
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 1: used to being behind and fighting back. If you were

530
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: given the option of an undefeated run toward the tournament,

531
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: would you take it or would you rather have one loss?

532
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 4: Oh? Great question, h man.

533
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 5: Well, you know I only had one season when we

534
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 5: went into the Big Ten. We were eighteen to zero

535
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 5: going into the NCAA tournament, and so you know, you

536
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 5: could feel that target start to mount as time went on.

537
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 5: So I definitely think probably the taking the loss to

538
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 5: be able to learn it probably as helpful. But you know, again,

539
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 5: and I don't think I would be upset if I.

540
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 4: Was under beat.

541
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: Fans wouldn't be either. Let's talk about a loss. The

542
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: Terps went from the very high high of beating number

543
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: twelve Ohio State in overtime at home, in front of

544
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: this electric crowd on the last second shot to losing

545
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: the first round of the Big Ten Tournament to Michigan.

546
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 2: The solid run at the Big Ten tournament could have

547
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 2: put you.

548
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: Know, top sixteen, maybe set you up to host games

549
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: during March madness. How do you handle that swing from

550
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: that amazing game to that early loss.

551
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, Unfortunately, we've had those swings this season, so it's

552
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 5: not like it was the first time. And I think

553
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 5: just you know, continuing to have perspective. I think fortunately

554
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 5: for us, it wasn't our last game, and I think

555
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 5: it gives us clarity that's not how we want to

556
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 5: end our season, for our five seniors in the NC

557
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 5: DOUBLEA tournament, and you know, every team, you see how

558
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 5: loaded the big ten is and how hungry and motivated

559
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 5: everybody is, it's going to be the same way in

560
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 5: the NCUBLEA Tournament. So I think, you know, a big

561
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 5: wake up call for our kids. You know, hopefully we

562
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 5: get a little healthier. We'd you know, had lost another

563
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 5: starter with Sailor Poffenberger not you know, being able to

564
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 5: be up to the point that we need her to

565
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 5: be to be able to significantly impact us, and losing

566
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 5: Bree McDaniel and Shy coming through. So the rest right

567
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 5: now for us is kind of where we needed to

568
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 5: be at and now we'll help hopefully, you know, give

569
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 5: us the freshest start we can have in the in

570
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 5: the NCAA Tournament.

571
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: What has surprised you most about this team starting with

572
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season till now.

573
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 4: I would say that, you know, I.

574
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 5: Didn't realize, say, we're going to be so competitive when

575
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 5: when we first kind of put them all together. Just

576
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 5: you know, just a really motivated group. And I think

577
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,479
Speaker 5: that's kind of been the neatest thing about them, is

578
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 5: that they they do want to be elite.

579
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 4: They they want to be great.

580
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 5: I think having a perspective of twenty three wins in

581
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 5: a season and in the Big Ten, you know, one

582
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 5: of the comference is in the country, and you know,

583
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 5: the losses we have taken have all come around injuries.

584
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 4: So I think the.

585
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 5: Resiliency thing has been the thing I've learned about them,

586
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 5: because you know, when we were rolling and had won

587
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 5: fourteen straight games, you know, we were healthy and we

588
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 5: were a complete team. And then as adversity has hit,

589
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 5: they they've really had to show a lot of great resiliency.

590
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: You talk about that a lot. That's sort of your

591
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: go to word. What does that mean to you as

592
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: a coach and for your players.

593
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 5: You know, the ability to you know bounce back, you know,

594
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 5: the like I think that's basketball is also you know,

595
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 5: prepares you for life, and you're going to have, you know,

596
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 5: a lot of great highs in life, but you're also

597
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 5: going to have those lows. And it's really your ability

598
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 5: to be able to get up the next morning and

599
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 5: be able to take it on. And if we can

600
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 5: learn that, you know, through the game of basketball and

601
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,959
Speaker 5: be stronger because of it, you know, it's just going

602
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 5: to prepare us for what Liza out ahead.

603
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: It feels that way, especially in women's college troups this

604
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: season too, where there are as absolutely no gimmes. The

605
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: number one seed's been bopping around, people are taking l's

606
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: left and right. So yeah, it's been it's been a

607
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: test for a lot of teams to understand what it

608
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: means to come back and be resilient after a loss.

609
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: You know, my team's in high school and college often

610
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: had rallying cries or inside jokes that carried through the season,

611
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: something that organically came from a joke or a trip

612
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: or a moment. And I wonder if this team has

613
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: a strange stuffed animal mascot or a cheer or a

614
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: superstition or something that they'll come back to as the

615
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: tournament starts.

616
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 5: Oh, man, that's a great question. There's a lot of

617
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 5: stuffed animals that come on the plane. I will say that, no,

618
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 5: I mean it is a group that's kind of superstitious,

619
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 5: so they kind of in their own right, they all

620
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 5: kind of have their own little nuances that they like,

621
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 5: you know. The one I'll say is like, you know, pregame.

622
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 5: I don't know how many go back to the locker

623
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 5: room and go to the bathroom and go meditate and go.

624
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 5: So there's this team has been unique in that area

625
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 5: where of any other team I've had, as I'm thinking

626
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 5: of it out loud, they've just kind of have their

627
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 5: own little kind of pregame routine once they go out

628
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 5: on the floor.

629
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 2: So that's been mindfulness.

630
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, very apropos for the younger generations, which I love

631
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: that they're finding that out young and applying that to

632
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: their sport. I mentioned Under the Shell, which is the

633
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: sort of docu series reality show about your program that's

634
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: going on twenty one seasons, which is crazy. They've been

635
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: there for the birth of your children. I'm wondering if

636
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: there's anything you haven't let them show, or any moments

637
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: that do you have final edit on.

638
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: And You've said yeah, let's cut that part.

639
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 4: I do have final edit.

640
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 5: But you know, when I first got hired here, Debbie

641
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 5: Yao is the athletic director then who's now retired, and

642
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 5: she had the vision it was she named it and

643
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,959
Speaker 5: just kind of you know, everyone has a coach's speak,

644
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 5: coaches show game highlights, and she wanted it to be different,

645
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 5: and I think that fits my personality. I love that

646
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 5: it's the stars of the show are our players. It's

647
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 5: not me, and it doesn't need to be me. I

648
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 5: don't have an ego that it needs to be me

649
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 5: at all. That it's the players, it's their backgrounds, it's

650
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 5: their stories. And that's what I'm really most proud of

651
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 5: is when I, you know, RO six team, they'll they'll

652
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 5: get together and they go back on YouTube and they

653
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 5: watch it, and you know, it's just pretty cool that

654
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 5: it's all archive for them to go back and see.

655
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: So do you have to then make executive decisions for

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Speaker 1: the players about what they might not want to have

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Speaker 1: out in the world or if something's less flattering or

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Speaker 1: I mean just imagining young women being able to come

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Speaker 1: I don't look cute in that one coach or like

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Speaker 1: that's a bad angle for me, do you have to

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Speaker 1: feel those kinds of lives.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we you know, we definitely if there's ever

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Speaker 5: anything that's sensitive, we're going to run it by the players. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: we definitely do do that. But for the most part,

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Speaker 5: we've never you know, had a problem. And you know,

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Speaker 5: even like sometimes when you know they filmed, you know,

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Speaker 5: some of our toughest losses. I mean those are real life,

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Speaker 5: you know, for our fans and to be able to

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Speaker 5: experience just kind of the heartache of what goes on

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Speaker 5: inside the locker room.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have an all women coaching staff. Was that intentional?

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Speaker 2: And why you know.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't, you know, because I've had men on staff

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Speaker 5: and in my time here, but as things evolved, it's

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Speaker 5: become you know, all women. You know, I will say

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Speaker 5: it's probably been one of my best coaching staffs. I

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Speaker 5: think it's just been really neat to see how in

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Speaker 5: sync everyone is pulling for each other, the mentorship for

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Speaker 5: from them and you know, to lead to our players.

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Speaker 5: So you know, definitely didn't start out intentionally, but kind

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Speaker 5: of got built that way. And I'll say, you know,

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Speaker 5: it's just you know, been something that I've really enjoyed.

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Speaker 1: What would you say to girls and women about coaching

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Speaker 1: as a career, especially as salaries are going up college

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Speaker 1: women's basketball and that has resulted in more men going

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Speaker 1: out for and getting jobs, the hiring ranks unfortunately not

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Speaker 1: reflecting the growth we see in women's sports as far

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Speaker 1: as women coaches go. How would you encourage girls and

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Speaker 1: women to take on the challenge and to believe that

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Speaker 1: they're capable.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I think, like everyone see, you have to

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Speaker 5: be built for it. It's a really intense, pressure packed

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Speaker 5: job anymore, and you know you have to be prepared

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Speaker 5: for for what lies ahead.

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Speaker 4: But you can do it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, whether you're a mom like i am,

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Speaker 5: I mean, it takes a village and you can nowadays,

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Speaker 5: you know you can build that the way you can

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Speaker 5: to be successful. But you know, anything you put your

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Speaker 5: mind to, you're going to be able to do. And

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Speaker 5: you know what better, you know, female role models for

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Speaker 5: our players to be able to have and to be

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Speaker 5: able to look up to and be able to see,

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Speaker 5: you know, women doing hard things. You know, this is

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Speaker 5: a profession that's really demanding. But at the same point,

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Speaker 5: you know they can see that you can be really

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Speaker 5: successful in it.

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Speaker 1: You've perfectly set me up for my final question, which is,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you want it badly enough, you can

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Speaker 1: make it work. And you've made it work despite having

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Speaker 1: twin sons. But they've also had the opportunity to grow

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Speaker 1: up watching you coach and lead this hugely successful basketball program.

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Speaker 1: Why is it important for boys in particular to see that?

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Speaker 4: It really is? I can't tell you enough.

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Speaker 5: I mean right now, you know, my boys are always

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Speaker 5: sending me things off of social media and you know

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Speaker 5: who's entered the transfer portal, and they're so fully invested,

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Speaker 5: and it is they get to watch a mom you know,

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Speaker 5: kind of grind twenty four to seven within a season

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Speaker 5: and just you know, you know, with this job is

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Speaker 5: all encompassing. They watch the work ethic, they watch what

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Speaker 5: it takes every single day. So it is I mean,

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Speaker 5: it doesn't matter if you're male or female. Just being

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Speaker 5: able to see that role model, you know, allows my

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Speaker 5: boys to see that, you know what you know, they

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Speaker 5: can you know, grow up and be anything they want

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Speaker 5: to be. And they're getting a living example every single day.

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Speaker 1: And shout out to your husband for driving them to

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Speaker 1: aau and schlapping them around everywhere while you're winning ball games.

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Speaker 1: We love that balance and that teamwork. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for taking the time. Great great season, and good

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Speaker 1: luck in the tournament.

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Speaker 5: Oh well, thank you so much and I really appreciate

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Speaker 5: you having me.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much to Brenda for joining us.

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Speaker 1: And a big thanks to friend of the show Claimed Kannikan,

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Speaker 1: who knows all the stake, story stats and stars of

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Speaker 1: the Maryland program and really help me prep for that interview.

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Speaker 1: We got to take another break. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: it's time for you, slices to get in the game.

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Speaker 1: Stick around, Welcome back, slices. We love that you're listening,

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Speaker 1: but we want you to get in the game every

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Speaker 1: day too. So here's our good game play of the day.

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Speaker 1: First tap been with coach Freeze and Maryland women's basketball.

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Speaker 1: We'll find out their NCAA tournament seed and draw during

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Speaker 1: the selection show on Sunday. So if you like what

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Speaker 1: you heard and need a team to root for, hitch

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Speaker 1: your wagon to the Turtles. Also, slices, we want to

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Speaker 1: do something fun during March Madness, something different starch madness. Now,

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Speaker 1: we know we're not the first folks to get a

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Speaker 1: kick out of that pun and we're not even the

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Speaker 1: first to build a bracket around it, but we are

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Speaker 1: the first to put our own special, good game spin

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Speaker 1: on it.

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Speaker 2: So here's how it's going to work.

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Speaker 1: We need starch based recipes from use slices, So send

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Speaker 1: us your favorite corn and potato dishes.

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Speaker 2: The starch has to be the star. Folks. Now, what

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Speaker 2: constitutes a starch?

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Speaker 1: Well, after quite a bit of research, we are still

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Speaker 1: wondering that ourselves. Some folks, for instance, think rice is

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Speaker 1: a starch, and some say it's a grain, but a

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Speaker 1: starchy grain. So for our purposes, just consider us the

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Speaker 1: Potato and Corn Conference. Send your rice, pasta and lay

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Speaker 1: goom dishes to another podcast. But if you've got a

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Speaker 1: really great one featuring like a deep cut, lesser known starch,

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Speaker 1: the humble parsnip, perhaps, I don't know, try your luck.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it'll make the cut.

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Speaker 1: We'll seed your recipes and then we'll throw them into

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Speaker 1: our Starch Madness bracket. Then you slices will vote on

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Speaker 1: them via Instagram until we get a final four. I

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Speaker 1: will make and post and eat the final four recipes

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Speaker 1: and use my taste buds to choose a winner.

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Speaker 2: So send us your recipes.

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Speaker 1: People, We want to post the bracket next week and

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Speaker 1: have final four votes in by March twenty eighth, So

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Speaker 1: send them now, get them in. Think you got something

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Speaker 1: that'll make my taste buds sing? Send it our way.

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Speaker 1: And remember I'm a vegetarian, so if you want your

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Speaker 1: recipe picked, you probably should pick something that doesn't have

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Speaker 1: meat in it. Send those recipes to good Game at

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