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Speaker 1: I am your host, Travis Wingfield And on today's show,
Speaker 1: the positional previews role on as we go back up
Speaker 1: to the front of the defense, the defensive line. E J.
Speaker 1: Snider from Bootleg Football is joining me today to break
Speaker 1: down this year's class on the interior and off the edge,
Speaker 1: but also talk about how the encumbents of this team
Speaker 1: fit and Coach Fangio's defense. All of that and a
Speaker 1: heck of a lot more from the Baptist Hell Studios
Speaker 1: inside the Baptist Hell Training Complex. This is.
Speaker 2: The Draft Time Podcast Maggie Geff.
Speaker 1: Before we get to my guest today, the Dolphins reportedly
Speaker 1: have a new wide receiver as it came across over
Speaker 1: the weekend. Per pretty much every major publication, the Dolphins
Speaker 1: be signing wide receiver Chosen Anderson. The receiver formerly known
Speaker 1: as Robbie. Anderson, has bounced around the NFL the last
Speaker 1: couple of years. Began his career with the New York Jets,
Speaker 1: had some big plays for the Jets early on during
Speaker 1: that rookie contract. Wound up moving on to Carolina with
Speaker 1: the Panthers under his former coach at Temple and Matt Ruhle,
Speaker 1: and had a big year there back in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: over one thousand yards, finding plenty of success vertically down
Speaker 1: the football field, showing off that four to four speed.
Speaker 1: And there's not much to really get into with regards
Speaker 1: to Anderson's tape. I think the obvious acquisition here comes
Speaker 1: through essentially some of the same traits you look at
Speaker 1: with Cedric Wilson, a guy that can play inside that
Speaker 1: slot position, six foot two, four to four speed and
Speaker 1: really kind of remove the top off the defense in
Speaker 1: a way that I think offers some value if he
Speaker 1: can stick with the club this upcoming season to open
Speaker 1: up more creases and more openings in that middle portion
Speaker 1: of the field, because an added speed element that's not
Speaker 1: ten or seventeen Tyreek or Jalen can create.
Speaker 2: A little bit softer zones in the middle.
Speaker 1: And we saw how much those two receivers last year,
Speaker 1: the two in my opinion too all pros. Only one
Speaker 1: of them was in All Pro, But I digress on
Speaker 1: that point. I think Robbie Anderson's speed, if he can
Speaker 1: pick it up and get acclimated quickly and be an
Speaker 1: impact player on the offense, I think ideally that's his
Speaker 1: best trait that he brings to the Miami Dolphins offense.
Speaker 1: So chosen Anderson per reports signing with to Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: We'll see him out there at OTAs later this month.
Speaker 1: So that's the news there. Let's go ahead and welcome
Speaker 1: in my guest today from Bootleg Football, EJ. Snyder, and
Speaker 1: I've been looking forward to this podcast for a while
Speaker 1: for a couple of reasons, because my guest today holding
Speaker 1: it down back in the Pacific Northwest, my former stomping grounds,
Speaker 1: mister e J.
Speaker 2: Snyder. EJ, how you doing, man? I'm good, I'm tired.
Speaker 2: I'm running one hundred miles an hour. It's draft season,
Speaker 2: but it is the happiest time of the year for me,
Speaker 2: so I'm I'm hot and ready to go.
Speaker 1: In addition to getting your analysis on this year's defensive
Speaker 1: line class.
Speaker 2: Which I think is sneaky.
Speaker 1: I hate using the word need, but a sneaky area
Speaker 1: of interest with the Dolphins is that the last time
Speaker 1: that we spoke, you were in the beginning stages of
Speaker 1: transitioning to full time football content creator, and you told
Speaker 1: me about your light fixture set up back there. That's
Speaker 1: on video for the Zoom but we don't have that
Speaker 1: available for the fans here. But EJ custom put his
Speaker 1: lights to Aquae Orange for the appearance today, so we
Speaker 1: really appreciate that. I wanted to ask you how much
Speaker 1: you love in this, man, cause, first full year in
Speaker 1: that capacity, I just picture you waking up every day
Speaker 1: humped to get out of bed, and that's a great
Speaker 1: place to achieve in life.
Speaker 2: It is fantastic. I was actually texting with a friend
Speaker 2: yesterday who's not in the industry, just a casual football
Speaker 2: fan that I used to work with in my previous
Speaker 2: life and he's followed my work. He loves the transition
Speaker 2: just like you do. And he said, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I realized this is your business. I don't need to
Speaker 2: make you talk about it. And I said, hey man,
Speaker 2: the whole reason I made this my business is because
Speaker 2: I love talking about it. No problem, I'm happy to
Speaker 2: do it. And he was just he said, I love that,
Speaker 2: and yeah, I do love it. It is consuming. It
Speaker 2: is hard to shut it off sometimes. That's probably the
Speaker 2: biggest challenge in the first year, is like, hey man,
Speaker 2: it's eight o'clock. You should stop working like other people do,
Speaker 2: and you know, go spend some time with your family
Speaker 2: and go do other things, go get some fresh air.
Speaker 2: Because it is very easy when you love your work
Speaker 2: to just keep at it. But overall, especially this time
Speaker 2: in year, draft season, which is one of my favorite
Speaker 2: times a year, it's going really, really well.
Speaker 1: I always tell the story. This is the fifteenth time
Speaker 1: my audience has heard it. But when they signed Eric
Speaker 1: Rowe back in twenty nineteen, it was like a Friday
Speaker 1: night at midnight. They signed him and I was like,
Speaker 1: going up to the lab, I'm gonna break down some
Speaker 1: tape and see what Eric Rowe brings to the table. So,
Speaker 1: like you said, when you love it, man, it's never working.
Speaker 1: You're willing to do it any hour of the night.
Speaker 1: It's so much fun. It makes me happy to see
Speaker 1: you get to enjoy that and embrace it fully. You
Speaker 1: know with Bootleg football, And speaking of Bootleg Football, your
Speaker 1: partner's staying very busy as well.
Speaker 2: This is maybe breaking news.
Speaker 1: But my plan is to circle back with both of
Speaker 1: you guys at some point this summer before your preview pods.
Speaker 1: Maybe have you come on talk to Dolphins with us.
Speaker 1: That's a little bit of a insight to you right
Speaker 1: there that I just broke to you. But I'm curious
Speaker 1: what is Bootleg gonna look like in twenty twenty three
Speaker 1: because you guys are growing so fast or producing so
Speaker 1: much content. We talked about your editing team before I
Speaker 1: jumped on the podcast here. I just always love how
Speaker 1: you guys stay current and stay providing that updating your material.
Speaker 1: So how's this new season format going to look for
Speaker 1: you guys this year?
Speaker 2: Probably one word is more again we'll have the full
Speaker 2: season of preview pods this summer where we talk about
Speaker 2: every team in depth. We really enjoyed doing that. It
Speaker 2: was the first time we'd done it in that format
Speaker 2: last year, first time we were able to with the
Speaker 2: addition of the editing team because that basically we're producing,
Speaker 2: you know, forty straight days of content. And then the season.
Speaker 2: We ended up traveling a lot in the season this year,
Speaker 2: and I think we'll probably travel even more next year.
Speaker 2: We'll be at more stadiums. We have lots of fans
Speaker 2: around the country now saying, oh, when are you gonna
Speaker 2: come to X and we've got a visit on tap
Speaker 2: with you that is you know, we've been talking about
Speaker 2: that for a couple of years now. We need to
Speaker 2: make that happen as well. I think a late season
Speaker 2: game in Miami sounds pretty good getting out of some
Speaker 2: of the Northwest weather and coming down to Miami to
Speaker 2: check out a game. So just more, we've continued to
Speaker 2: have some great guest support and now we're really sort
Speaker 2: of getting offers, which is interesting. People are reaching out
Speaker 2: and saying, hey, would you be willing to have us
Speaker 2: on your show? And that's fascinating. That's a that's a
Speaker 2: new place to be as creators, and we're really excited
Speaker 2: by those possibilities.
Speaker 1: I love to hear it if you guys do come
Speaker 1: down here that time of year, it's not just for
Speaker 1: getting out of your cold weather, but avoiding the September
Speaker 1: melting whether you get down here that time. I think
Speaker 1: Brett came down for the Bills game last year and
Speaker 1: I was kind of telling him about, like, you know
Speaker 1: how the stadium looks at certain times a day, and
Speaker 1: I was like, you might have to hang out for
Speaker 1: a few hours after the game to get that beautiful
Speaker 1: sunset behind the hard rock setium canopy and logo that
Speaker 1: really pops at like sunset. But when you play a
Speaker 1: one o'clock game in September, you know, you melt for
Speaker 1: three hours and then you have to wait for three
Speaker 1: more hours for that sunset. So I think he might
Speaker 1: have missed that by a couple of months. But we'll
Speaker 1: see when that schedule comes out. I think next month
Speaker 1: will come out, and I'm sure Miami's gonna have some
Speaker 1: some big time games late in the year, so I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to that. I want to ask you about
Speaker 1: it towards the end of the podcast. Let's stop talking
Speaker 1: about other things besides this Dolphins team and get into
Speaker 1: it right here and talk about this defensive line group
Speaker 1: that it's and I'll go back to my comment about
Speaker 1: the sneaky like need in that position. And I think
Speaker 1: fans might get a little bit spoiled because Christian Wilkins
Speaker 1: and Zach Seeler play. They play like eighty percent of
Speaker 1: the snaps every single game. It's it's wild their level
Speaker 1: of conditioning and the level of dominance they display. And
Speaker 1: I know you're a big Vic Fangio fan, But between
Speaker 1: those two guys and then Rake Kwan Davis, the depth
Speaker 1: beyond that, let's just say it's an experience. It's a
Speaker 1: couple of guys that were on the practice squad and
Speaker 1: futures contracts. So that's why I think there is a
Speaker 1: potential need to look, you know, not just for this
Speaker 1: year's reserve depth chart, but also in the future, because
Speaker 1: you know, what it looks like in a couple of
Speaker 1: years might not be what it is right now. But
Speaker 1: we'll get to that in a second. I just want
Speaker 1: to know how you feel about those three guys playing,
Speaker 1: whether it's you know, the multiple fronts, odd front, even
Speaker 1: front up front.
Speaker 2: I mean they are so versatile.
Speaker 1: How do you feel those three guys fit with what
Speaker 1: Vic Fangio wants to do upfront on the defensive line.
Speaker 2: I think they're great fits both physically and from a
Speaker 2: play style, and that's two different things. Vic has physical
Speaker 2: profile that he likes in his defensive lineman, and then
Speaker 2: he wants them to play a certain way. He is
Speaker 2: not a big blitzer. He wants to rush with four
Speaker 2: and he needs the guys up front, whoever they are,
Speaker 2: to be able to hold down their spots. Now, those
Speaker 2: roles rotate and those responsibilities will shift, Like you said,
Speaker 2: even front side fronts, overs tights, they all have different responsibilities,
Speaker 2: but he needs them to win. If they break down,
Speaker 2: the rest of the defense is not going to hold
Speaker 2: up in the way that he wants to be able
Speaker 2: to play his back seven. So I think they're great
Speaker 2: physical fits, and I think they're great play style fits.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're gonna need to give them a break.
Speaker 2: They are iron men, but he asked them to be
Speaker 2: extremely physical in that role. He is not a defensive
Speaker 2: coordinator that's gonna just sort of ask those guys to
Speaker 2: stand up and take up space. He wants them to
Speaker 2: actively be pinning in one end of the line or
Speaker 2: collapsing the middle or whatever it is on that particular play,
Speaker 2: and they're gonna need a break. He talked about the
Speaker 2: weather in Miami, right it's hot in the early season.
Speaker 2: It's just a physical thing need to in modern football,
Speaker 2: and I say all of football because that's the NFL
Speaker 2: and we see it more. Really in college football, it's
Speaker 2: it's like hockey lines. They rotate defensive lines in waves.
Speaker 2: They have three full sets and they just run them
Speaker 2: out there and each one gets a series or two
Speaker 2: series or eight plays or twelve plays, and then it's
Speaker 2: the fresh guys because they want them to come, they
Speaker 2: want them to breathe fire for the whole game. And
Speaker 2: you can't ask a three hundred and thirty pound guy
Speaker 2: in ninety eight degree weather with ninety percent of humidity
Speaker 2: to just go out and bang for sixty downs. That's
Speaker 2: not going to work. So the depth is really important.
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially that nose tackle position where Raykwon Davis just
Speaker 1: has for the most part, one of the most thankless
Speaker 1: jobs in football, where I mean you can play a
Speaker 1: game and have zeros across the stat board, but play
Speaker 1: a really good game with that nose tackle, you know,
Speaker 1: slash one shade position that he so frequently occupies. And
Speaker 1: I always do this on this position group because to me,
Speaker 1: there's one guy that kind of exists in the plane
Speaker 1: of his own on this defense. And maybe I'm speaking
Speaker 1: of a school term, but it always seems that way
Speaker 1: when you when you break down, like the body types
Speaker 1: of Wilkins and Steeler are similar. You know, Davis kind
Speaker 1: of has his his bill for that nose tackle position.
Speaker 1: That You've got your Jalen Phillips and your Bradley Chubb
Speaker 1: and your Malik Reid and uh and your Andrew Van
Speaker 1: Ginkles off the kind of outside linebacker position. But then
Speaker 1: there's a Manual Ogba who is a true like even
Speaker 1: front you know, seven tech type of edgebrusher. And I'm
Speaker 1: curious how you think he fits, but also how he
Speaker 1: makes the defensive flexibility more flexible for lack of a
Speaker 1: better term, just because he does kind of exist in
Speaker 1: that I guess that category where there's really nobody else
Speaker 1: in the roster that does what he does. So how
Speaker 1: do you think Ogba coming off that injury last year
Speaker 1: and after you know, two and a half really good
Speaker 1: years of the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 2: How do you see his fit in that defense? If
Speaker 2: he's healthy, It's a good one because Fangio needs that guy.
Speaker 2: He had Leonard Floyd there when Floyd was in Chicago,
Speaker 2: and it was this sort of I hate to call
Speaker 2: it tweener because we use tweener for a lot of
Speaker 2: other terms, and it's usually like between safety and linebacker.
Speaker 2: It's not quite full time defensive line. But you can
Speaker 2: slide him in and make him part of the front
Speaker 2: four or in certain plays and Fangio will do this
Speaker 2: drop them into the short, flat hook zone and they
Speaker 2: really become part of the back seven, and that multiple
Speaker 2: approach really keeps a defense flexible and keeps an offense
Speaker 2: on its toes because you aren't sure whether Agba's coming
Speaker 2: or not. He's not one of those guys that just
Speaker 2: every time is going to pin his ears back and come.
Speaker 2: He has the athletic flexibility to drop into that flat zone.
Speaker 2: He has the length to kind of stand up and
Speaker 2: block off tight end passing routes. So Fangio will definitely
Speaker 2: use that. I hope he comes back healthy because I
Speaker 2: think he could have a really productive year. It might
Speaker 2: not be the flashiest that role doesn't necessarily produce all
Speaker 2: of the explosive plays for the defense, but it is
Speaker 2: a very important point of how the defense presents itself
Speaker 2: and keeps an offense guessing.
Speaker 1: It's really cool to see the way they have multiple
Speaker 1: guys in those flexible roles because he and Phillips are
Speaker 1: both capable of condensing down to that three tech and
Speaker 1: rushing a guard, and Phillips put some guards on his
Speaker 1: heels last year.
Speaker 2: Man, it was cool to see.
Speaker 1: And then you've got the Wilkins and Steeler guys who
Speaker 1: kind of operate the opposite direction, right, They go from
Speaker 1: inside to out, and you have so much flexibility that way.
Speaker 1: I think it's one of the deepest fronts really in
Speaker 1: the National Football League. But like I said, you could
Speaker 1: always add some pieces up there. It's always a deep rotation.
Speaker 1: So we're going to take our first break right here
Speaker 1: and come back on the other side and talk to
Speaker 1: EJ about the potential draft fits at each pick of
Speaker 1: the draft of the Dolphins. It's fifty one, eighty four,
Speaker 1: and then six and seventh round picks.
Speaker 2: That's next My guest today, e J.
Speaker 1: Snyder, your host, Travis Pinging, Phil Drift Time Podcast brought
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Speaker 1: number two of the Defensive Line Preview Draft twenty twenty
Speaker 1: three edition. My guest today is EJ. Snyder of Bootleg
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Speaker 2: Podcasts as well. Check out their content. So, Ej.
Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about the Dolphins depth and
Speaker 1: they have, you know, players in these positions, but just
Speaker 1: not a lot of NFL experience there in terms of
Speaker 1: the depths. I was curious about not just for snaps
Speaker 1: that need to be accounted for this season, but potential
Speaker 1: long term. We have a couple of guys that are
Speaker 1: on the last year of their deals. You just never
Speaker 1: know how this league works. So it's always I'm always
Speaker 1: fascinated by how teams approach certain areas of their roster
Speaker 1: with you know, future building, immedia impact type of building.
Speaker 1: That stuff always fascinates me. And you have these conversations
Speaker 1: about the scenarios and stuff. So kind of with that
Speaker 1: in mind, you know, I don't think pick fifty one
Speaker 1: is that crazy to say you could take a player
Speaker 1: that is in the Wilkins or Sealer or Davis Mold
Speaker 1: and so I'm curious of guys that you think could
Speaker 1: be at that spot. You know, your traditional three tech
Speaker 1: who can also kick inside but also slide outside of
Speaker 1: the five tech. Give me some names that you like
Speaker 1: at that spot. It would fit this Dolphins defense absolutely.
Speaker 2: You talked about where the picks are going to happen
Speaker 2: for the Dolphins right now, let's put that out there
Speaker 2: as well, because they can always trade up or down.
Speaker 2: But fifty one eighty four are interesting spots in this
Speaker 2: defensive line class because it is so deep and there
Speaker 2: are a wide variety of players, and you really have
Speaker 2: to look at the sort of physical types that Fangio
Speaker 2: likes in his defense and what he has. I think
Speaker 2: Seeler is a great fit. He likes guys that are
Speaker 2: tall to fill that sort of you can call it
Speaker 2: three to four eye to five roll, that sort of
Speaker 2: outside edge and his defense. He likes them tall six
Speaker 2: three six four six five if he can get him,
Speaker 2: and he likes him right up near three hundred pounds.
Speaker 2: I was always a draft proponent as a Chicago guy
Speaker 2: of you know some fire breathers off the edge, and
Speaker 2: you know they're like two fifty five or two sixty
Speaker 2: and everybody's like FANGI will never take him because he's
Speaker 2: not that guy he doesn't need. He's gonna look at
Speaker 2: a guy like Nolan Smith, for instance, out of Georgia
Speaker 2: and go, hey, nice player, No thanks, like unless it
Speaker 2: falls to the third or fourth round, which isn't gonna happen.
Speaker 2: So he likes size out there, he likes height out there.
Speaker 2: He certainly likes very stout guys. Again, he needs them
Speaker 2: to hold up one on one and sometimes one on
Speaker 2: one and a half. And so there's a bunch of
Speaker 2: guys in that sort of seiler role. We'll start there.
Speaker 2: Carl Brooks out of Bowling Green is a really interesting guy.
Speaker 2: Doesn't necessarily hit the hype profile. He's sixty three, but
Speaker 2: he is two ninety six and he does have that flexibility.
Speaker 2: He does move up and down the line. Fangio love
Speaker 2: that next guy up. Definitely doesn't fit the weight profile,
Speaker 2: but he plays big and he comes from a program
Speaker 2: I think Fangio has a lot of respect for in Michigan.
Speaker 2: That's Mike Morris and more of a traditional edge, But
Speaker 2: I really think could be a four or five player.
Speaker 2: He is six ' five and he does have great
Speaker 2: length and he plays extremely physically at his size, So
Speaker 2: I might think that Fangio would look at a guy
Speaker 2: like that and go, we could probably both him up
Speaker 2: ten pounds and you know, we can live with the
Speaker 2: play style. As we continue to move down more towards
Speaker 2: that could be fifty. I would pick him closer to fifty.
Speaker 2: But in the eighties, Kobe Turner from wake Forest, a
Speaker 2: guy we talked to at the Shrine Bowl who I love,
Speaker 2: super smart. Now, he was a three at wake Forest,
Speaker 2: pretty dedicated three. He did slide out to four. Eye
Speaker 2: that didn't really use him at five very much, but
Speaker 2: I think he'd be great. They're extremely smart player, extremely
Speaker 2: agile player, could bring some real speed. It's a little
Speaker 2: on the short side six to two for Fangio, but
Speaker 2: he is a two ninety three, which is right where
Speaker 2: Bick likes him. We get down further in the pick line.
Speaker 2: You're looking at Zach Pickens from South Carolina. Now, a
Speaker 2: lot of people will push back and say, no, Zach
Speaker 2: Pickens is a defensive tackle. He doesn't need to slide outside.
Speaker 2: I would push back and say, Zach Pickens run stopping
Speaker 2: ability on the inside is not necessarily my favorite. But
Speaker 2: he is a big athletic guy. The reason he would
Speaker 2: be going farther on down is because he hasn't figured
Speaker 2: it all out yet, but he has a ton of tools.
Speaker 2: Six three two ninety one absolutely can bring it off
Speaker 2: the edge, has a lot of natural physical strength, doesn't
Speaker 2: always apply it the right way on the inside. Some
Speaker 2: team might take that chance, and then my guy down
Speaker 2: at the bottom, Tyler Lacy, Oklahoma State. This guy's a
Speaker 2: classic fangio guy. Like you know, nobody was looking at
Speaker 2: Sealer when he came out either right, and Tyler Lazy
Speaker 2: fits that profile as well. Six two seventy nine plays
Speaker 2: really traditional sort of four or five, slides out a
Speaker 2: little bit, but slides inside to three tech on passing
Speaker 2: downs as well, because he is just really broad at
Speaker 2: six ' four, plays very very tough. Any one of
Speaker 2: those guys sort of up and down the board. A
Speaker 2: couple of guys are a little bit on the short side,
Speaker 2: but I like their play style or some of the
Speaker 2: things that they bring. All of those guys could slide
Speaker 2: in and be what I really think is probably a backup,
Speaker 2: a rotational player behind Seiler. None of them is probably
Speaker 2: going to displace Sealers straight off that's not that kind
Speaker 2: of thing. But again, when you're picking at fifty one
Speaker 2: or eighty four, not necessarily looking for that. So lots
Speaker 2: of options in this draft, do you so? I The
Speaker 2: reason I asked this, EJ.
Speaker 1: Is because I think I saw Brett tweeted the other
Speaker 1: day that he was uploading into your defensive line rankings.
Speaker 2: You guys just recorded that.
Speaker 1: So is it too much to ask you if you
Speaker 1: have ranking on where these guys stack up.
Speaker 2: For you personally? Oh? For me personally, I don't have
Speaker 2: mindset yet. Those were for film room, but we are
Speaker 2: talking about it every day because that's the way this works,
Speaker 2: this whole thing works. I have them roughly ranked in
Speaker 2: that order. I might have Morris above Brooks again depending
Speaker 2: on fit, but I think that's roughly the order I
Speaker 2: have them in. If I had to sort of assign
Speaker 2: a round range, I'm gonna say Brooks is some people
Speaker 2: are talking about first round. I really don't think that's true.
Speaker 2: It's probably gonna go in the second. Mike Morris, I
Speaker 2: think his range probably starts mid second to end of
Speaker 2: the second Goby Turner right after that. I would take
Speaker 2: him top of the third, But I really think his
Speaker 2: actual range is probably middle third and on down. Zach Pickens,
Speaker 2: I can't tell you. I can't put a target on
Speaker 2: that one. I think somebody's gonna fall in love with
Speaker 2: what Zach Pickens has. I haven't done it yet, so
Speaker 2: I would take him after Turner pretty soon. And then
Speaker 2: Tyler Lacy is one of the it was interesting guys
Speaker 2: is going to kick around he didn't have He doesn't
Speaker 2: have the greatest size, he doesn't have the greatest production.
Speaker 2: I like his sort of all around game, which was
Speaker 2: sort of my draft conference seiler right like. I was like, hey,
Speaker 2: he does a lot of good things pretty well. He's
Speaker 2: not exceptional in any area. So that's why I said,
Speaker 2: Tyler Lacey kind of reminds me of him as a
Speaker 2: as a player coming out. Oh yeah, okay, that makes
Speaker 2: that makes sense.
Speaker 1: I have a buddy who who he used to be
Speaker 1: my podcast co host, my first began back in like
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. He's a film junkie who loves this stuff
Speaker 1: and just hasn't for his own, like for fun for
Speaker 1: himself like we.
Speaker 2: Used to do.
Speaker 1: Probably, but he can't stop talking about Carlbrooks and Keanu Benton,
Speaker 1: and Benton was the guy that really blew up the Combine,
Speaker 1: or not the Combine, rather the Senior Bowl back when
Speaker 1: that occurred. So I've heard the name Carlbrooks so many times,
Speaker 1: So I have you listed him off first. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you're looking at the zoom call here, but
Speaker 1: my smile was pretty wide when you mentioned his name
Speaker 1: off the top. But you also alluded to something that
Speaker 1: I want to follow up on because I didn't have
Speaker 1: it in my notes here, but you mentioned, you know,
Speaker 1: the Fangio protype at that position, and I recall when
Speaker 1: I was going over my deep dive on Fangio, and
Speaker 1: obviously you're very familiar with his work with the Chicago
Speaker 1: Bears and what he did to that defense when he
Speaker 1: was there and one of the top producing defenses from
Speaker 1: from points yards, allowed takeaways, all the Fangio staples, but
Speaker 1: he had some guys there. But also in Denver, Draymont
Speaker 1: Jones was a guy who led, if he didn't lead
Speaker 1: the team in sacks, like two years, he was one
Speaker 1: of the top sack guys on that club under Vic Fangio.
Speaker 2: So I'm curious why does a.
Speaker 1: Player like that, because again, I think we have two
Speaker 1: of those guys that fit that mold in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways in Steeler Wilkins.
Speaker 2: Why did those guys excel so much in this defense?
Speaker 2: It really is what he asked them to do and
Speaker 2: how he aligns the defense up front. It is different.
Speaker 2: There are many defenses that are built on penetration from
Speaker 2: the front four, so they will specifically have that three
Speaker 2: tech role and his job is purely to penetrate that
Speaker 2: offense line, cause problems and move the quarterback off his
Speaker 2: spot from the middle. Fangio doesn't necessarily do that. He
Speaker 2: is more of a hold the line guy. He wants
Speaker 2: his pressure out of four and he will get it
Speaker 2: a lot of times. I would say non creatively, and
Speaker 2: what I mean by that is he doesn't blitz a lot.
Speaker 2: He uses a lot of creativity and moving that front.
Speaker 2: But his roles are defined and you have to do
Speaker 2: it and do it well. And if you're a player
Speaker 2: that comes in and buys into that and says, you know,
Speaker 2: you didn't come from a system where or regardless if
Speaker 2: you did, you didn't come from that penetrating system. You
Speaker 2: come in and you just go, I'm gonna embrace this.
Speaker 2: This guy's a genius on the defensive front of the NFL.
Speaker 2: I'm going to do exactly what he says I should do,
Speaker 2: whether or not I sort of see the overall picture.
Speaker 2: A bunch of those guys have had success in Fangio defenses,
Speaker 2: and they weren't necessarily highly heralded guys with at ballall Nichols,
Speaker 2: you know, not a guy with a huge NFL pedigree
Speaker 2: coming out ended up being a very successful player in
Speaker 2: that defense hasn't necessarily been as successful since he's moved
Speaker 2: on again. He came in, he bought in, He did
Speaker 2: exactly what they wanted to do. He fit that physical profile,
Speaker 2: and it just it's a match of player and landing spot.
Speaker 2: And we talk about that all the time. Is being
Speaker 2: really really important, and it is a little bit different
Speaker 2: than what a lot of other defensive coordinators who are exotic,
Speaker 2: blitz heavy. You've certainly had that in Miami, right you
Speaker 2: guys led the league in zero for a while. Like,
Speaker 2: that's not gonna be a Fangio staple. Fans, We're gonna
Speaker 2: have to adjust to the fact that a lot of
Speaker 2: times it's not gonna look like there's a lot of
Speaker 2: rush schemed up.
Speaker 1: It's the reason I'm smiling at you, Jay is because
Speaker 1: you're getting into all these topics.
Speaker 2: I'd really didn't plan today for the podcast.
Speaker 1: You gave us great draft content, but now I'm just
Speaker 1: kind of interested to ask you a couple of questions
Speaker 1: about Fangio and the defense and structure and things like that,
Speaker 1: because we know it's not often to get your expertise
Speaker 1: and someone that really studied the coach and the way
Speaker 1: that you did, I'm sure when he was with the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears there for a while. Let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: take our last break here.
Speaker 2: I'm come back.
Speaker 1: I have two more questions for you. One about that
Speaker 1: Ogba edge position spot you I'll pull up those rankings
Speaker 1: on your draft board there, and then also about some
Speaker 1: some more Vic Fangio stuff.
Speaker 2: That's next. My guest is ay e J. Snyder.
Speaker 1: The Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought to
Speaker 1: you by AutoNation back here on the third segment of
Speaker 1: our defensive line draft preview, and really, Ej, it's evolved
Speaker 1: into more of a just general Dolphins chat, which no
Speaker 1: fan of the podcast is going to dislike that one.
Speaker 2: Bit here because we kind of covered it.
Speaker 1: You gave us a list and those are guys to
Speaker 1: look out on Day two and maybe even late into
Speaker 1: Day number three as the Dolphins round out their draft
Speaker 1: class this season. But we talked a little bit during
Speaker 1: the break there about a guy that I brought up
Speaker 1: to you that you wanted to go back into. And
Speaker 1: maybe maybe you partlay this with the question I had
Speaker 1: for you. Maybe you just talk about them separately. But
Speaker 1: I'll go ahead and put the question to you so
Speaker 1: you can have some time to let it marinnate. I
Speaker 1: was curious about kind of a list of guys in
Speaker 1: that I don't know if i'd call it the Ogbaugh position,
Speaker 1: but just your true like edge rusher, you know, guy
Speaker 1: off the outside. Because you mentioned that the two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty hound, you know, hair on fire guy, maybe
Speaker 1: isn't the best fit in this defense. But Ogba is
Speaker 1: that big, long, heavy handed dude. Who's a guy like
Speaker 1: that in this draft? Is it Keanu Benton that might
Speaker 1: be someone that piaks the Dolphins interest.
Speaker 2: It's interesting, we'll go both ways, you said, Brooks and Benton.
Speaker 2: And it's funny because I did two lists, one for
Speaker 2: the spot really behind Seiler and one for the spot
Speaker 2: behind Wilkins. Okay, and while they do the same thing,
Speaker 2: they're very different players physically, like so I think, And
Speaker 2: the top of my Wilkins list was Keanu Benton. So
Speaker 2: I laughed because the top of my Steeler list was
Speaker 2: Carl Brooks. So there we go. If we're really going
Speaker 2: to go to that AGBAS spot, I go back to
Speaker 2: Mike Morris, Who's the guy I talked about, because he
Speaker 2: is that longer tallery six five two seventy five, but
Speaker 2: moves more like a sort of true edge, less like
Speaker 2: a sort of four eye, which is that you know,
Speaker 2: four tech interior gonna line up inside the tackle. It
Speaker 2: needs to be a little bit more stout because a
Speaker 2: lot of times he's going to be taking on double
Speaker 2: teams from a garden a tackle. Mike Morris has more
Speaker 2: of that flexibility. If you want to say who reminds
Speaker 2: me on this list of AGBA, it would probably be
Speaker 2: Mike Morris. There's a whole bunch of other guys. But
Speaker 2: back to the Wilkins list, Keanu Benton is probably going
Speaker 2: to be out of the range. I think if I
Speaker 2: was picking, he would be off before fifty one. First,
Speaker 2: what's that first round? I would take him in the
Speaker 2: back end of the first round. I'm that comfortable with him.
Speaker 2: That's not a that's not a super popular take, but
Speaker 2: I think top of round two. His name's in the conversation.
Speaker 2: He's gonna be one of the first defensive tackles off
Speaker 2: the ball, you know, I would say top three or four,
Speaker 2: depending on how you define defensive tackle defensive band. But
Speaker 2: other guys for Wilkins, Mazzie Smith for Michigan. Again, when
Speaker 2: you're looking at Fangio, he likes heavy guys when you
Speaker 2: get off that five and maybe this is Davis more
Speaker 2: in your defense, you know, rotating with Raykwan. But Mazzi
Speaker 2: Smith from Michigan six two three twenty three absolute hammers
Speaker 2: for hands, and Fangio is gonna love that because he
Speaker 2: can stand a guy up and give no ground, and
Speaker 2: that lets a guy like Vic plan around him and
Speaker 2: sort of go I don't have to worry about that.
Speaker 2: I love the way you phrased it that it's a
Speaker 2: thankless job, but a really important one. Another guy, Nesta
Speaker 2: Jade silvera who played a lot at Miami, ended up
Speaker 2: at Arizona State his last year for grad transfer six
Speaker 2: two three eleven, really really athletic. I think he could
Speaker 2: sort of slide in between the two spots. Jerrod Clark's
Speaker 2: a guy from Coastal Carolina that I really like six three,
Speaker 2: three thirty four, and he is that guy really that's
Speaker 2: probably gonna back up Davis more in your defense. But
Speaker 2: he is a stout tree trunk in the middle. And
Speaker 2: then way down the board in terms of a value pick.
Speaker 2: KeAndre Coburn from Texas. Nobody's talking about him. A little
Speaker 2: bit short six ' one, but three point thirty two
Speaker 2: gets a lot less pressed than his buddy Morojomo in
Speaker 2: that defense because Moro sort of moves around and does
Speaker 2: more things, more like Zach or even some of the
Speaker 2: ODDBA roles Texas defense. But Keanner Kobert is that guy
Speaker 2: they just plant in the middle and go, Nope, don't
Speaker 2: have to worry about this two yard swath.
Speaker 1: It's it's interesting to me because like the way the
Speaker 1: Dolphins draft picks fall right now, and this is you know,
Speaker 1: by their own design from and and I, I personally
Speaker 1: love the approach of you know you're in this. You
Speaker 1: know two was heading into year four of his rookie
Speaker 1: deal and the fifth year option has been extended, so
Speaker 1: you still have you know, the quarterback cheap by by
Speaker 1: NFL standards in terms of what he's doing. So you
Speaker 1: kind of have this potential to really go out right
Speaker 1: now and be aggressive and get guys that impact your
Speaker 1: team right now. I had Damian Parson from the Draft
Speaker 1: Network on the podcast, and we talked about that approach
Speaker 1: of you know, let's, yeah, he's great, he's the man.
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's be aggressive and get guys that we
Speaker 1: know can impact right now, opposed to you know, maybe
Speaker 1: you take a guy with that pick in the twenties
Speaker 1: who winds up, you know, needing a year to to develop,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you're beyond that window
Speaker 1: that you had and and you're just you're you're not
Speaker 1: making the moves with that certain sense of like urgency
Speaker 1: now with the idea of continuing to build on later.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's a certain delicate balance, I think for
Speaker 1: how you do that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, those those guys are great options.
Speaker 1: And then thinking about maybe possibly trading back, it seems
Speaker 1: like DeAndre Coburn could be a guy that maybe goes
Speaker 1: off the board and on that early Day three type
Speaker 1: of range, and if the Dolphins can maybe acquire some
Speaker 1: more picks, maybe he's a guy that you look at
Speaker 1: in that range. So it's that's why it's so fascinating
Speaker 1: to cover all these guys and all these positions, because
Speaker 1: you just never know what's gonna happen in the draft.
Speaker 2: It's what makes it so much fun.
Speaker 1: The last question I wanted to ask of you here, EJ,
Speaker 1: because you've given us great content on the draft so far,
Speaker 1: was going back to Fangio and you know, we mentioned,
Speaker 1: you know, light boxes are pretty typical in his defense,
Speaker 1: not a lot, not a lot of fifth rushers coming,
Speaker 1: not a lot of blitzing going on. But he said
Speaker 1: something to me, and this is like some self promotion
Speaker 1: here in our original sit down chat where I asked
Speaker 1: him about his time away and he mentioned, you know,
Speaker 1: having his his lab, his office that he could not
Speaker 1: get away from from more than a day or two
Speaker 1: a time without going back and drawing up some coverages.
Speaker 1: And he said, got a couple of new coverages I'm
Speaker 1: excited to work on. And so that kind of peaked
Speaker 1: Dolphins fans interest and certainly mine heading into OTA's and
Speaker 1: mini and training camp in July. So my question is
Speaker 1: for a coach in one of Fangio's stature and We've
Speaker 1: seen several coaches do this in the past, that year away, right,
Speaker 1: they take that that sabbatic goal, they kind of maybe
Speaker 1: see the league from a different lens where you're not
Speaker 1: game planning each week and you can kind of watch
Speaker 1: the league on a broader scope. I'm curious from your perspective,
Speaker 1: as someone that you know knows the x's and o's,
Speaker 1: knows you know, defensive rules and and all the stuff
Speaker 1: that goes into the complex nature of the game, what
Speaker 1: kind of year away for a coach with that much
Speaker 1: you know, what's the word I'm looking for expertise?
Speaker 2: I guess year away for him?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, there's so many adjectives you can use right there, right,
Speaker 1: What a year away for a guy like coach Fangio
Speaker 1: do for his his knowledge of the game.
Speaker 2: I think it's a tremendous opportunity that not a lot
Speaker 2: of coaches get. When we look at coaching, it is
Speaker 2: about what's next, the next, the next, the next, the next,
Speaker 2: And coaches, as you know, move all over the country,
Speaker 2: take roles in college, back to the NFL, vice versa.
Speaker 2: It is a demanding profession and to have a year
Speaker 2: where you get some choice after that much time in
Speaker 2: your career and that much success where you can really
Speaker 2: choose to, like you said, look at the whole league
Speaker 2: and go, oh, isn't that cool? Isn't that cool? You
Speaker 2: have this problem? I mean, you're you know, you work
Speaker 2: for the Dolphins, which is amazing, but you see something
Speaker 2: cool that somebody else is doing, You're like, I just
Speaker 2: don't have time to look at it. And I'm sure
Speaker 2: Fangio is the same way. And he got to sit down,
Speaker 2: and he got to sit down and sort of go, hey,
Speaker 2: what worked this week? And with his expertise, he can
Speaker 2: deconstruct that very quickly. It doesn't take long for a
Speaker 2: guy like that to look at the all twenty two
Speaker 2: and go, oh, what are the rules here? You know,
Speaker 2: what are the roles? What are they doing? Oh that's cool.
Speaker 2: Look at what they did pre snap to set that up.
Speaker 2: Look at what happened, how they reacted, look at the flexibility.
Speaker 2: Oh this is a place where I've gotten or my
Speaker 2: defenses have had troubles before. There's not many, but there
Speaker 2: are a few, And hey, how do they handle that?
Speaker 2: Or you know, what kind of problem can I pose
Speaker 2: to the offense? Because that's what's going through the mind.
Speaker 2: Of a guy like Vic Fangio all the time is
Speaker 2: how can I bump them off their spot? How can
Speaker 2: I make them sort of play left handed? How can
Speaker 2: I inconvenience them on every snap so that they don't
Speaker 2: feel comfortable and get to rip off big plays against us?
Speaker 2: And there are a lot of cool ways to do that.
Speaker 2: It's one of the great things that I enjoy about
Speaker 2: going back to college tape because a lot of people
Speaker 2: might find this funny, but I don't watch a lot
Speaker 2: of college football. I'm covering the league at that time,
Speaker 2: and when I get to go back, he's in the
Speaker 2: tape and I get to sort of, yes, look at
Speaker 2: the players, and I'm focusing on traits and fits, but
Speaker 2: I also get to see, oh, look at that. That's
Speaker 2: just mean and you'll love this. It's Washington State, right,
Speaker 2: I was looking at Dan Henley's a linebacker there, yep,
Speaker 2: go Kook's right, And one of the things that he's
Speaker 2: really good at is blitzing. And so he'll blitz and
Speaker 2: blitz and delay blitz as a linebacker. And then one
Speaker 2: of the things they did with him at Washington State
Speaker 2: that's super fun but a little bit evil, is they'd
Speaker 2: push him up on the A gap late in the game.
Speaker 2: Basically call that mugging the A gap with the linebacker.
Speaker 2: And then he's a converted wide receiver, so he's really
Speaker 2: good in coverage and they'll drop him and he'll just
Speaker 2: like just sit there and hang over the center and
Speaker 2: like bounce up and down, and so the line's adjusting
Speaker 2: and saying, hey, we got an extra rusher, who's got
Speaker 2: him whatever, and then right at the snap he basically
Speaker 2: darts back, you know, six or seven yards and he's
Speaker 2: like ha ha, and you know, the protection compresses to
Speaker 2: the middle and the edge rushers get a bigger window,
Speaker 2: and it's just something they can do because they're playing
Speaker 2: off his strength. And I'm sure Fangio is looking at
Speaker 2: that and going, Okay, everybody's got the book on me.
Speaker 2: Everybody knows what I'm gonna do because I've been resolute
Speaker 2: about my rules and my fit, and I have brought
Speaker 2: my rules and made players largely fit it, and it's worked.
Speaker 2: It's worked very very well. So everybody's gonna say, ah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're playing the Dolphins. Oh it's Fangio. Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: pull up all my Fangio tape pull up all my
Speaker 2: Fangio rules, and if I can design a couple of twists,
Speaker 2: if I can design a couple of things that look
Speaker 2: like they used to but now work differently based on
Speaker 2: some of this fun stuff I saw last year, I
Speaker 2: can throw some curve balls when I really need to.
Speaker 2: And that's one of Fangio's staples is he'll save stuff.
Speaker 2: He'll save it for a whole year, and he knows
Speaker 2: the games on the schedule, and he won't show it.
Speaker 2: He won't show it in training camp, he won't show
Speaker 2: it in preseason, he won't show it in the early
Speaker 2: weeks of the season. And then when they need that
Speaker 2: third downstop, third and three and it's week ten, they'll
Speaker 2: set something up and everybody's like, huh, looks the same,
Speaker 2: and it works differently. They drop them. They get the
Speaker 2: possession they need. Is a he's a master, he's an
Speaker 2: assassin at that. So I'm sure he has filled that
Speaker 2: bag with a few more arrows and you're gonna get
Speaker 2: to see him as Dolphins fans man.
Speaker 1: The way you described that, if I didn't know, if
Speaker 1: I just like dropped in mid conversation there, I would
Speaker 1: almost think you were describing Mike McDaniel, which just gets
Speaker 1: me so fired up for training camp man McDaniel versus
Speaker 1: Fangio and a chess match, Like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: How lucky am I to have a front row seat
Speaker 1: to that every single day to watch this talented roster
Speaker 1: execute those guys' offense and defense.
Speaker 2: And man, well he got me fired up here, Ej.
Speaker 1: So what you're having the podcast, you've also come me
Speaker 1: fired up because Damian Parson was on the podcast before you.
Speaker 1: That's back to back episodes now, folks, that my guests,
Speaker 1: not I, my guests brought up Washington State Cougar's Damien
Speaker 1: went to Day on Henley first talking about linebacker fits
Speaker 1: and not I agree with him, but you know we
Speaker 1: did get David Long and Jerome Baker plays a lot
Speaker 1: of snaps as well. Maybe there's times many snaps for
Speaker 1: Day on Henley, but you know, I'd love to see
Speaker 1: that that guy come down here in South Florida. But man,
Speaker 1: that is great stuff. EJ really really learned a lot
Speaker 1: from you in this episode.
Speaker 2: He is EJ.
Speaker 1: Snyder, one half of Bootleg Football. He also does some
Speaker 1: work at whin DCD, Gridiron and the Beer. I always
Speaker 1: get this wrong I always say Beers first, Bears over
Speaker 1: Beers podcast. I'm excited what the Bears do this year. Man.
Speaker 1: I love Justin Fields. I think he's great, So I'm
Speaker 1: excited about what you guys might do. Real quick, what
Speaker 1: do you think the Bears are going to do a
Speaker 1: pick number nine?
Speaker 2: Oh? I think if Jalen Carter is available at nine,
Speaker 2: he's a Bear. I'm not saying that's what I would do.
Speaker 2: I think that if that plays out, If Jalen Carter
Speaker 2: from Georgia is available at nine, I think he is
Speaker 2: in Navy in orange and that's the end of that story.
Speaker 2: If he's not, it gets really interesting. I would believe
Speaker 2: if they could and it always takes two and he
Speaker 2: is not there, they may look to trade down because
Speaker 2: there are some players that they might be able to
Speaker 2: get mid first round and still come away with some
Speaker 2: extra picks. And Ryan Poles understands what he's doing here
Speaker 2: in terms of team building for the Bears. So if
Speaker 2: Jalen Carter's gone, they might move. If Jalen Carter's there,
Speaker 2: he's a Bear.
Speaker 1: That would be almost Dolphins es in the last couple
Speaker 1: of years, where you would be in a position where
Speaker 1: you could round out your team with a bunch of
Speaker 1: draft picks, but then also have that backlog of futures
Speaker 1: draft picks like the Dolphins didn't use those aggressively to
Speaker 1: go get veterans to fill in those gaps with proven talent.
Speaker 1: Man Like that's I love when teams are in this
Speaker 1: phase where the Bears are of the kind of the rebuild,
Speaker 1: and I think they have a good chance to really
Speaker 1: hit a home run there and make you get to
Speaker 1: watch some competitive, you know, meaningful football in December and January.
Speaker 2: Ejam. I'm pulling for you.
Speaker 1: The Bears are my NFC team this year, so I'll
Speaker 1: be thinking about you.
Speaker 2: EJ.
Speaker 1: Thanks again as always, my man. You can find him
Speaker 1: at EJ football on Twitter. Help us promote your work,
Speaker 1: my friend, what are you working on? What's coming up?
Speaker 2: It's at football EJ, so people will find me. Don't
Speaker 2: mess that up. No, that's all right. But certainly bootleg
Speaker 2: football is where most of it goes. Check YouTube for that.
Speaker 2: Simply type in bootleg football will pop right up. We're
Speaker 2: also available, as you said, on every podcast outlet out there,
Speaker 2: and then you can head over to ESP Nation Windy
Speaker 2: City Gridiron. I'll be doing a little bit of Bears
Speaker 2: draft reaction analysis later probably in Day three over there,
Speaker 2: but coming up, it's the draft live stream for us
Speaker 2: all three days, every single pick. We're going to be
Speaker 2: in Kansas City this year, which is a first for
Speaker 2: us actually at the location of the draft. Really looking
Speaker 2: forward to all that. Man, I'll be watching that.
Speaker 1: I'll have that on next to the NFL Network in
Speaker 1: the ESPN house here in the control room at Baptist
Speaker 1: Health Training Complex.
Speaker 2: So looking forward to that.
Speaker 1: And like you said earlier, I'm gonna hold you guys
Speaker 1: to this this year because Brett came down last September,
Speaker 1: was supposed to come hang out, and he got too
Speaker 1: busy and couldn't make it out. But I think he
Speaker 1: owes me a night the seminal hard Rock or out
Speaker 1: of a one A. I don't know, whatever you guys
Speaker 1: want to do, I'll let him choose, but I think
Speaker 1: Brett ozy won this time a round.
Speaker 2: Sound good, man, It sounds great. I would love to
Speaker 2: come see you late this NFL season, get a little
Speaker 2: bit of good weather, see the super exciting Dolphins team.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you work with him, but it
Speaker 2: would be my first time at hard Rock, so you know,
Speaker 2: check another stadium off the list, and you know, a
Speaker 2: great meal with friends is always welcome.
Speaker 1: And work on that tan too. It's a number a
Speaker 1: bad thing down here in South Florida.
Speaker 2: I just hide from the sun. That's my strategy.
Speaker 1: Appreciate your time todayj thanks a lot man, Hey, thanks
Speaker 1: for having me on.
Speaker 2: It's always great anytime, and.
Speaker 1: Away he goes, as we always do with EJ and
Speaker 1: these guests. Hearing these draft previews, we learned a lot
Speaker 1: good stuff from him and like I said, go check
Speaker 1: out his work. He is absolutely killing it over there
Speaker 1: at Bootleg Football. He and Brett Coleman two of the
Speaker 1: best content creators but also two.
Speaker 2: Of the best people in this space.
Speaker 1: So go ahead and support their work if you would
Speaker 1: for me please In the meantime, that's going to be
Speaker 1: my time. The next preview we do, I believe, is
Speaker 1: Defensive Backs on Wednesday, and then we have the great
Speaker 1: Jordan Reid on Friday ahead of Kyle Krabs annual two
Speaker 1: part Draft Dolphins Extravaganza. That's the week of the draft,
Speaker 1: and then we have podcasts covering the draft, so plenty
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Speaker 1: Dolphin Centric draft centric, all that good stuff. But like
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