WEBVTT - Drive Time: 2023 NFL Draft Preview, Defensive Line Preview with EJ Snyder 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:04.720 You're listening to the Miami Dolphins Podcast Network. 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:08.280 This is Drive Time with Travis Wingfield. Back to throw 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:10.640 to a looking ships about. 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:15.920 A wide Dolphin touchdown, Tyrickquel uncrelievable. 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:19.000 It's just blue fire for a second time. You knew 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:21.160 where he was going right away. I want to hit 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:23.960 that man. I'm gonna help you. Someone will keep ony 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:27.920 man away. Wattle Wadle to a shotgun, back to throw 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:33.560 looking at them up myers touchdown. It's Waddle his sixth touchdown. 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:34.839 Pat Ka. 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:39.000 Drive Time with Travis Wingfield begins. 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:41.479 Now let me check your pulse if you're not for 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:45.280 what is up? Dolphins? 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:48.280 And welcome to the Draft Time podcast, part of the 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:53.440 Miami Dolphins Podcast Network, covering your team, your Miami Dolphins. 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:54.760 How's it going? Everybody? 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:58.200 I am your host, Travis Wingfield And on today's show, 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:01.480 the positional previews role on as we go back up 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:04.800 to the front of the defense, the defensive line. E J. 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:08.880 Snider from Bootleg Football is joining me today to break 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:11.679 down this year's class on the interior and off the edge, 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:14.760 but also talk about how the encumbents of this team 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:17.480 fit and Coach Fangio's defense. All of that and a 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:19.960 heck of a lot more from the Baptist Hell Studios 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:22.679 inside the Baptist Hell Training Complex. This is. 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:26.160 The Draft Time Podcast Maggie Geff. 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:31.240 Before we get to my guest today, the Dolphins reportedly 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:34.080 have a new wide receiver as it came across over 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:37.640 the weekend. Per pretty much every major publication, the Dolphins 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:42.200 be signing wide receiver Chosen Anderson. The receiver formerly known 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:45.160 as Robbie. Anderson, has bounced around the NFL the last 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:48.000 couple of years. Began his career with the New York Jets, 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:50.880 had some big plays for the Jets early on during 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.360 that rookie contract. Wound up moving on to Carolina with 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:57.880 the Panthers under his former coach at Temple and Matt Ruhle, 0:01:58.120 --> 0:01:59.880 and had a big year there back in twenty twenty 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:03.280 over one thousand yards, finding plenty of success vertically down 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:06.160 the football field, showing off that four to four speed. 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:09.760 And there's not much to really get into with regards 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:13.440 to Anderson's tape. I think the obvious acquisition here comes 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:15.880 through essentially some of the same traits you look at 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:18.520 with Cedric Wilson, a guy that can play inside that 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:21.800 slot position, six foot two, four to four speed and 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:24.040 really kind of remove the top off the defense in 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:27.040 a way that I think offers some value if he 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:30.600 can stick with the club this upcoming season to open 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.359 up more creases and more openings in that middle portion 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.600 of the field, because an added speed element that's not 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:40.600 ten or seventeen Tyreek or Jalen can create. 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:42.079 A little bit softer zones in the middle. 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:44.720 And we saw how much those two receivers last year, 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.040 the two in my opinion too all pros. Only one 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:49.560 of them was in All Pro, But I digress on 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.040 that point. I think Robbie Anderson's speed, if he can 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:54.160 pick it up and get acclimated quickly and be an 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:57.080 impact player on the offense, I think ideally that's his 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:00.000 best trait that he brings to the Miami Dolphins offense. 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:03.560 So chosen Anderson per reports signing with to Miami Dolphins. 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:06.480 We'll see him out there at OTAs later this month. 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:08.760 So that's the news there. Let's go ahead and welcome 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:12.440 in my guest today from Bootleg Football, EJ. Snyder, and 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:14.799 I've been looking forward to this podcast for a while 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:17.400 for a couple of reasons, because my guest today holding 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:21.320 it down back in the Pacific Northwest, my former stomping grounds, 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:22.000 mister e J. 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:25.800 Snyder. EJ, how you doing, man? I'm good, I'm tired. 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:28.080 I'm running one hundred miles an hour. It's draft season, 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:30.280 but it is the happiest time of the year for me, 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:32.440 so I'm I'm hot and ready to go. 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:35.920 In addition to getting your analysis on this year's defensive 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:36.960 line class. 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:38.320 Which I think is sneaky. 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.400 I hate using the word need, but a sneaky area 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:44.000 of interest with the Dolphins is that the last time 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:46.520 that we spoke, you were in the beginning stages of 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:49.960 transitioning to full time football content creator, and you told 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.119 me about your light fixture set up back there. That's 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:53.760 on video for the Zoom but we don't have that 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:56.840 available for the fans here. But EJ custom put his 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.600 lights to Aquae Orange for the appearance today, so we 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:02.080 really appreciate that. I wanted to ask you how much 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:04.280 you love in this, man, cause, first full year in 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.080 that capacity, I just picture you waking up every day 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:09.360 humped to get out of bed, and that's a great 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:10.560 place to achieve in life. 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:14.680 It is fantastic. I was actually texting with a friend 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:18.600 yesterday who's not in the industry, just a casual football 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:20.800 fan that I used to work with in my previous 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:24.440 life and he's followed my work. He loves the transition 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:26.560 just like you do. And he said, oh my god, 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:28.240 I realized this is your business. I don't need to 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:29.960 make you talk about it. And I said, hey man, 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:33.360 the whole reason I made this my business is because 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:36.240 I love talking about it. No problem, I'm happy to 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:38.479 do it. And he was just he said, I love that, 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:42.600 and yeah, I do love it. It is consuming. It 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:44.920 is hard to shut it off sometimes. That's probably the 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:47.880 biggest challenge in the first year, is like, hey man, 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:50.839 it's eight o'clock. You should stop working like other people do, 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:53.200 and you know, go spend some time with your family 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:55.640 and go do other things, go get some fresh air. 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.279 Because it is very easy when you love your work 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:01.640 to just keep at it. But overall, especially this time 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:03.760 in year, draft season, which is one of my favorite 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.159 times a year, it's going really, really well. 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:09.120 I always tell the story. This is the fifteenth time 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:11.000 my audience has heard it. But when they signed Eric 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:13.480 Rowe back in twenty nineteen, it was like a Friday 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:15.520 night at midnight. They signed him and I was like, 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:17.200 going up to the lab, I'm gonna break down some 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.400 tape and see what Eric Rowe brings to the table. So, 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:22.040 like you said, when you love it, man, it's never working. 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:24.720 You're willing to do it any hour of the night. 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:27.159 It's so much fun. It makes me happy to see 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:30.359 you get to enjoy that and embrace it fully. You 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:32.880 know with Bootleg football, And speaking of Bootleg Football, your 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:34.360 partner's staying very busy as well. 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:36.080 This is maybe breaking news. 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:37.440 But my plan is to circle back with both of 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:40.160 you guys at some point this summer before your preview pods. 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:42.839 Maybe have you come on talk to Dolphins with us. 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:45.000 That's a little bit of a insight to you right 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.560 there that I just broke to you. But I'm curious 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:50.480 what is Bootleg gonna look like in twenty twenty three 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:52.839 because you guys are growing so fast or producing so 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:55.560 much content. We talked about your editing team before I 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:58.000 jumped on the podcast here. I just always love how 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:02.000 you guys stay current and stay providing that updating your material. 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:04.240 So how's this new season format going to look for 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:05.000 you guys this year? 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:11.119 Probably one word is more again we'll have the full 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:14.520 season of preview pods this summer where we talk about 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.919 every team in depth. We really enjoyed doing that. It 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:18.920 was the first time we'd done it in that format 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:20.719 last year, first time we were able to with the 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.720 addition of the editing team because that basically we're producing, 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:28.120 you know, forty straight days of content. And then the season. 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.920 We ended up traveling a lot in the season this year, 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:33.000 and I think we'll probably travel even more next year. 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:36.000 We'll be at more stadiums. We have lots of fans 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:37.919 around the country now saying, oh, when are you gonna 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:40.719 come to X and we've got a visit on tap 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:42.960 with you that is you know, we've been talking about 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:44.560 that for a couple of years now. We need to 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:46.920 make that happen as well. I think a late season 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:49.200 game in Miami sounds pretty good getting out of some 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.760 of the Northwest weather and coming down to Miami to 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.719 check out a game. So just more, we've continued to 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:56.880 have some great guest support and now we're really sort 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.600 of getting offers, which is interesting. People are reaching out 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.120 and saying, hey, would you be willing to have us 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:05.839 on your show? And that's fascinating. That's a that's a 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:09.120 new place to be as creators, and we're really excited 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:10.120 by those possibilities. 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:11.840 I love to hear it if you guys do come 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:13.720 down here that time of year, it's not just for 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:17.280 getting out of your cold weather, but avoiding the September 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:20.600 melting whether you get down here that time. I think 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:22.200 Brett came down for the Bills game last year and 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:23.600 I was kind of telling him about, like, you know 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:25.680 how the stadium looks at certain times a day, and 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:27.800 I was like, you might have to hang out for 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:29.560 a few hours after the game to get that beautiful 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:31.920 sunset behind the hard rock setium canopy and logo that 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:34.560 really pops at like sunset. But when you play a 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:36.720 one o'clock game in September, you know, you melt for 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:38.240 three hours and then you have to wait for three 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:40.440 more hours for that sunset. So I think he might 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:42.520 have missed that by a couple of months. But we'll 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:44.800 see when that schedule comes out. I think next month 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:46.880 will come out, and I'm sure Miami's gonna have some 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:49.040 some big time games late in the year, so I'm 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:50.640 looking forward to that. I want to ask you about 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:52.960 it towards the end of the podcast. Let's stop talking 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.000 about other things besides this Dolphins team and get into 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.760 it right here and talk about this defensive line group 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:00.920 that it's and I'll go back to my comment about 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:04.360 the sneaky like need in that position. And I think 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:07.320 fans might get a little bit spoiled because Christian Wilkins 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:10.480 and Zach Seeler play. They play like eighty percent of 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:13.520 the snaps every single game. It's it's wild their level 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:16.600 of conditioning and the level of dominance they display. And 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:19.400 I know you're a big Vic Fangio fan, But between 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:22.559 those two guys and then Rake Kwan Davis, the depth 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:24.640 beyond that, let's just say it's an experience. It's a 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:26.480 couple of guys that were on the practice squad and 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:28.920 futures contracts. So that's why I think there is a 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.400 potential need to look, you know, not just for this 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:33.959 year's reserve depth chart, but also in the future, because 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:35.199 you know, what it looks like in a couple of 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:37.040 years might not be what it is right now. But 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:38.760 we'll get to that in a second. I just want 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:42.120 to know how you feel about those three guys playing, 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:44.600 whether it's you know, the multiple fronts, odd front, even 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:45.200 front up front. 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:46.520 I mean they are so versatile. 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:49.280 How do you feel those three guys fit with what 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.959 Vic Fangio wants to do upfront on the defensive line. 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.440 I think they're great fits both physically and from a 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:59.480 play style, and that's two different things. Vic has physical 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:02.400 profile that he likes in his defensive lineman, and then 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:04.520 he wants them to play a certain way. He is 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:08.160 not a big blitzer. He wants to rush with four 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:10.800 and he needs the guys up front, whoever they are, 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:13.800 to be able to hold down their spots. Now, those 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:17.480 roles rotate and those responsibilities will shift, Like you said, 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:22.199 even front side fronts, overs tights, they all have different responsibilities, 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:25.640 but he needs them to win. If they break down, 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:28.640 the rest of the defense is not going to hold 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:31.120 up in the way that he wants to be able 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:33.720 to play his back seven. So I think they're great 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:36.200 physical fits, and I think they're great play style fits. 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.160 But yeah, you're gonna need to give them a break. 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:40.600 They are iron men, but he asked them to be 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:43.360 extremely physical in that role. He is not a defensive 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.480 coordinator that's gonna just sort of ask those guys to 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.920 stand up and take up space. He wants them to 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.520 actively be pinning in one end of the line or 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:53.320 collapsing the middle or whatever it is on that particular play, 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:55.480 and they're gonna need a break. He talked about the 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:58.280 weather in Miami, right it's hot in the early season. 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:02.160 It's just a physical thing need to in modern football, 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:04.000 and I say all of football because that's the NFL 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:07.040 and we see it more. Really in college football, it's 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:10.800 it's like hockey lines. They rotate defensive lines in waves. 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.560 They have three full sets and they just run them 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:16.160 out there and each one gets a series or two 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:18.240 series or eight plays or twelve plays, and then it's 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:20.440 the fresh guys because they want them to come, they 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:22.280 want them to breathe fire for the whole game. And 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.559 you can't ask a three hundred and thirty pound guy 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:29.440 in ninety eight degree weather with ninety percent of humidity 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:31.880 to just go out and bang for sixty downs. That's 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:34.800 not going to work. So the depth is really important. 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.840 Yeah, especially that nose tackle position where Raykwon Davis just 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.080 has for the most part, one of the most thankless 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:42.280 jobs in football, where I mean you can play a 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:44.560 game and have zeros across the stat board, but play 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:46.440 a really good game with that nose tackle, you know, 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:50.160 slash one shade position that he so frequently occupies. And 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:54.000 I always do this on this position group because to me, 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:57.160 there's one guy that kind of exists in the plane 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.480 of his own on this defense. And maybe I'm speaking 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:01.400 of a school term, but it always seems that way 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:03.440 when you when you break down, like the body types 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:05.960 of Wilkins and Steeler are similar. You know, Davis kind 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:08.200 of has his his bill for that nose tackle position. 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:11.000 That You've got your Jalen Phillips and your Bradley Chubb 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:13.800 and your Malik Reid and uh and your Andrew Van 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:16.720 Ginkles off the kind of outside linebacker position. But then 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:20.280 there's a Manual Ogba who is a true like even 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:24.199 front you know, seven tech type of edgebrusher. And I'm 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:27.040 curious how you think he fits, but also how he 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:30.439 makes the defensive flexibility more flexible for lack of a 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.040 better term, just because he does kind of exist in 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:36.480 that I guess that category where there's really nobody else 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:38.120 in the roster that does what he does. So how 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:40.719 do you think Ogba coming off that injury last year 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:42.800 and after you know, two and a half really good 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:43.920 years of the Miami Dolphins. 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:46.720 How do you see his fit in that defense? If 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:50.360 he's healthy, It's a good one because Fangio needs that guy. 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:54.120 He had Leonard Floyd there when Floyd was in Chicago, 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.600 and it was this sort of I hate to call 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:59.160 it tweener because we use tweener for a lot of 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:02.920 other terms, and it's usually like between safety and linebacker. 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:06.120 It's not quite full time defensive line. But you can 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:07.800 slide him in and make him part of the front 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.959 four or in certain plays and Fangio will do this 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:13.439 drop them into the short, flat hook zone and they 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:16.960 really become part of the back seven, and that multiple 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:22.080 approach really keeps a defense flexible and keeps an offense 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:26.000 on its toes because you aren't sure whether Agba's coming 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:27.840 or not. He's not one of those guys that just 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.240 every time is going to pin his ears back and come. 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:33.400 He has the athletic flexibility to drop into that flat zone. 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:35.200 He has the length to kind of stand up and 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:39.559 block off tight end passing routes. So Fangio will definitely 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:41.760 use that. I hope he comes back healthy because I 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:45.000 think he could have a really productive year. It might 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:49.080 not be the flashiest that role doesn't necessarily produce all 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:52.160 of the explosive plays for the defense, but it is 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:55.360 a very important point of how the defense presents itself 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:56.840 and keeps an offense guessing. 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:00.000 It's really cool to see the way they have multiple 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:03.040 guys in those flexible roles because he and Phillips are 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:05.559 both capable of condensing down to that three tech and 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:08.200 rushing a guard, and Phillips put some guards on his 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:08.880 heels last year. 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:09.839 Man, it was cool to see. 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.160 And then you've got the Wilkins and Steeler guys who 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:14.640 kind of operate the opposite direction, right, They go from 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.240 inside to out, and you have so much flexibility that way. 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:19.360 I think it's one of the deepest fronts really in 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:22.000 the National Football League. But like I said, you could 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:24.520 always add some pieces up there. It's always a deep rotation. 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:26.120 So we're going to take our first break right here 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:27.800 and come back on the other side and talk to 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.319 EJ about the potential draft fits at each pick of 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:32.480 the draft of the Dolphins. It's fifty one, eighty four, 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:34.120 and then six and seventh round picks. 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:35.719 That's next My guest today, e J. 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:38.760 Snyder, your host, Travis Pinging, Phil Drift Time Podcast brought 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:44.960 to you by Auto Nation. We're back here for segment 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:48.720 number two of the Defensive Line Preview Draft twenty twenty 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:52.079 three edition. My guest today is EJ. Snyder of Bootleg 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:55.080 Football doing great stuff over there up on YouTube anywhere 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:55.520 you get your. 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:58.440 Podcasts as well. Check out their content. So, Ej. 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.760 We talked a little bit about the Dolphins depth and 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:05.200 they have, you know, players in these positions, but just 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:06.960 not a lot of NFL experience there in terms of 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:10.880 the depths. I was curious about not just for snaps 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.280 that need to be accounted for this season, but potential 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:15.400 long term. We have a couple of guys that are 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:17.199 on the last year of their deals. You just never 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:19.600 know how this league works. So it's always I'm always 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:23.440 fascinated by how teams approach certain areas of their roster 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:28.440 with you know, future building, immedia impact type of building. 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:30.680 That stuff always fascinates me. And you have these conversations 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:32.960 about the scenarios and stuff. So kind of with that 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:36.600 in mind, you know, I don't think pick fifty one 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:38.960 is that crazy to say you could take a player 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:42.360 that is in the Wilkins or Sealer or Davis Mold 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:45.200 and so I'm curious of guys that you think could 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:48.600 be at that spot. You know, your traditional three tech 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.000 who can also kick inside but also slide outside of 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.360 the five tech. Give me some names that you like 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:57.000 at that spot. It would fit this Dolphins defense absolutely. 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:00.000 You talked about where the picks are going to happen 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:02.360 for the Dolphins right now, let's put that out there 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:04.360 as well, because they can always trade up or down. 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:07.840 But fifty one eighty four are interesting spots in this 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.800 defensive line class because it is so deep and there 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:12.960 are a wide variety of players, and you really have 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:15.280 to look at the sort of physical types that Fangio 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:17.440 likes in his defense and what he has. I think 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:20.040 Seeler is a great fit. He likes guys that are 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.760 tall to fill that sort of you can call it 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:26.240 three to four eye to five roll, that sort of 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:29.480 outside edge and his defense. He likes them tall six 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:31.520 three six four six five if he can get him, 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:33.840 and he likes him right up near three hundred pounds. 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:37.560 I was always a draft proponent as a Chicago guy 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:39.880 of you know some fire breathers off the edge, and 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:43.120 you know they're like two fifty five or two sixty 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:45.800 and everybody's like FANGI will never take him because he's 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:47.920 not that guy he doesn't need. He's gonna look at 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:49.960 a guy like Nolan Smith, for instance, out of Georgia 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:52.840 and go, hey, nice player, No thanks, like unless it 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.200 falls to the third or fourth round, which isn't gonna happen. 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.280 So he likes size out there, he likes height out there. 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:01.320 He certainly likes very stout guys. Again, he needs them 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:04.440 to hold up one on one and sometimes one on 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:07.560 one and a half. And so there's a bunch of 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:10.000 guys in that sort of seiler role. We'll start there. 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:13.440 Carl Brooks out of Bowling Green is a really interesting guy. 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:17.040 Doesn't necessarily hit the hype profile. He's sixty three, but 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.760 he is two ninety six and he does have that flexibility. 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:22.080 He does move up and down the line. Fangio love 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:26.440 that next guy up. Definitely doesn't fit the weight profile, 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:29.120 but he plays big and he comes from a program 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.280 I think Fangio has a lot of respect for in Michigan. 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:35.320 That's Mike Morris and more of a traditional edge, But 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:37.840 I really think could be a four or five player. 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:39.880 He is six ' five and he does have great 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:43.720 length and he plays extremely physically at his size, So 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:45.720 I might think that Fangio would look at a guy 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.720 like that and go, we could probably both him up 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:49.600 ten pounds and you know, we can live with the 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:52.920 play style. As we continue to move down more towards 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.480 that could be fifty. I would pick him closer to fifty. 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:59.040 But in the eighties, Kobe Turner from wake Forest, a 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.880 guy we talked to at the Shrine Bowl who I love, 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.760 super smart. Now, he was a three at wake Forest, 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:07.840 pretty dedicated three. He did slide out to four. Eye 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:09.840 that didn't really use him at five very much, but 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.520 I think he'd be great. They're extremely smart player, extremely 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:15.360 agile player, could bring some real speed. It's a little 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:17.359 on the short side six to two for Fangio, but 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:19.160 he is a two ninety three, which is right where 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:22.440 Bick likes him. We get down further in the pick line. 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:25.600 You're looking at Zach Pickens from South Carolina. Now, a 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:27.720 lot of people will push back and say, no, Zach 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:30.880 Pickens is a defensive tackle. He doesn't need to slide outside. 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.400 I would push back and say, Zach Pickens run stopping 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:37.600 ability on the inside is not necessarily my favorite. But 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:40.359 he is a big athletic guy. The reason he would 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:43.320 be going farther on down is because he hasn't figured 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:45.800 it all out yet, but he has a ton of tools. 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:49.480 Six three two ninety one absolutely can bring it off 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:52.240 the edge, has a lot of natural physical strength, doesn't 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:55.520 always apply it the right way on the inside. Some 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:57.720 team might take that chance, and then my guy down 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:02.439 at the bottom, Tyler Lacy, Oklahoma State. This guy's a 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:06.000 classic fangio guy. Like you know, nobody was looking at 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:09.119 Sealer when he came out either right, and Tyler Lazy 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:12.680 fits that profile as well. Six two seventy nine plays 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:15.840 really traditional sort of four or five, slides out a 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:18.679 little bit, but slides inside to three tech on passing 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.680