WEBVTT - What's Your "Number"? 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.640 Hell I Suck At Dating with Denglert and Dared Haven 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:11.840 and I heart radio podcast. What's going on everyone, and 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:15.200 welcome to an all new episode of Help I Suck 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:18.680 At Dating and what an incredibly special episode. Today we 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:21.760 have the star of the podcast, Jared have been joining us, 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:25.000 the guest host Dean Anglert, and a very special guest 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:30.040 host as well. Today, Heather Martin is joining us. Um, Heather, 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:33.160 how are you? I'm doing great? How are you guys doing? 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:38.160 We are doing. I would like to make a quick 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:42.080 note if case something happens to me, Um, I am 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:44.279 in the van again. I don't have very good well 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:46.280 the service is fine. What do you mean if something 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:48.800 happens to you? Where are you in the world right now? 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:51.800 That's on sketchy. Well, it's more so just you know, 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:53.440 you're not I'm not calling in from like a reliable 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:55.720 WiFi connection, so you never really know what's going to happen. 0:00:55.840 --> 0:01:01.640 Are you ever calling in on a reliable WiFi connection? Yeah? Okay, 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:04.000 it was last week from the Mexican restaurant in uh San, 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:06.920 Raphael or whoever the heck I was. I haven't listened 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:09.360 to the episode yet, but yeah, I figured I was 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:11.800 probably gonna do one of the best episodes you've ever had. 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:14.680 I think about it. I think it's a classic. They're 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:18.640 all classics. Dean Hungler, Where in the World In ten years, 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:20.880 when we're looking back through the anals of Help I 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:22.800 Suck at Dating, We're gonna look at that episode as 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:25.360 one of the highlights. I think, Oh, I completely concur Well, 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:27.360 we have a great episode coming up for you, Heather. 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:29.280 First of all, how are you? We want to catch 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:32.679 up with you? Um? You are you? Do you still 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:36.440 live in something California? You still I'm in San Diego. Yep. 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:39.680 It's finally starting to get warm here some so it 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:42.560 isn't great things are opening. Yeah, it's been really good. 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:44.600 So the last time we saw you, obviously you were 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:48.440 on Matt James season. You came in in the van 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:52.520 halfway just about halfway through the season. I'm assuming that 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:55.960 was not your decision. You didn't want to come halfway 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:59.280 through to tell us, well, like what exactly happened. Did 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:01.760 you reach out to Doucers halfway through and was like, hey, 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.160 I'm regretting not coming on, or were you like, hey 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:05.480 can I come on night one? And they're like, no, 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:09.920 you gotta come on later. Yeah, yeah, no, I definitely didn't. 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:13.880 Definitely was not ideal to come halfway through it. Also, 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:16.600 basically what happened to it all started last summer when 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:19.280 Hannah came to my house and she came to visit 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:21.560 and she was like, oh, Heather, you'd be really good 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:23.200 with that, and then just like kind of brought it 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:25.560 up casually, but like he was already announced to be 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:27.280 the bachelor at that point, so I was like, we 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:30.560 both both of us were like, Okay, well that can't happen, 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:33.360 but whatever. But then she keep talking about it and 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:35.560 talking about it, and she's like you just you really, 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:37.120 like I really think you'd a good match. And I 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:39.280 was like, dang, it's like it's like she doesn't like 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:41.160 cannons all the type of first and to like really 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:43.560 say that often, like she doesn't try to like set 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:45.280 me up a bunch of people or like her friends 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:46.680 up with a bunch of people. So I was like, 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:49.320 dang it, like that really means something. And so she's 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:51.280 kept talking about it, and we're like, okay, let's let's 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:52.560 see what she's like. I'll see what I can do. 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:56.200 So she talked to some people and then I talked 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:57.880 to some people, and that was over the course of 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:03.240 like months, you know. Um, and then finally like started 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:07.360 to have like some conversations and go through the process 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:10.760 a little bit. But it was definitely like a little 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:13.480 it was definitely later than like the normal casting process. 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:18.360 And so there's just lots of things that happened and uh, 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:22.120 conversations that we had and and by the point that 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:26.240 it was just like they're just like okay, like it's 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:29.519 kind of too late. And then so took it upon 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:32.080 myself and headed out there on my own. What are 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:33.760 some of what were some of those conversations like that, 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.880 they were really like it's too late, and you actually 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:40.120 went out there on your own. Uh, it's always real. 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:41.600 I never had like one of my lists out of 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:45.119 um you could say just say there's you'll never get 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:49.720 in trouble for telling the truth. I mean you went out, 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.880 you went out on your own. But was there I 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:57.240 don't know anybody who is like, hey, you know, maybe 0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:59.120 you should do it. Like of course you took it 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:00.600 on your own to do it it, but was there 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:04.840 anybody helping you? I think like it was like no, 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:07.160 like I really like truly like me going out there 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:11.520 was not. It was my choice. Like they were like 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:13.520 we're just having conversations, and I think they're like the 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:17.400 you know, there's a lot more that goes into going 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:19.880 on the show besides just like showing up. So I 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:21.920 seem like going through the it was like I think 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:25.320 I really was like late in the process and getting everything, 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.679 you know, approved, and you know all that kind of stuff, 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:32.760 especially during COVID times. During COVID times, everything's weird um, 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:35.159 And so they're kind of just like how they're like 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:38.480 it's like we can't authorize you to come, and then 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:41.680 you were like, screw that, I'm coming. I'm not going 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:44.400 to regret not meeting Matt in my life. Have you 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:47.320 ever met Matt before the show? No? So I've never 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:50.520 met him at all. I had like said high to 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:52.280 him on face, like Hannah when she was at my house, 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:54.000 but she's at my house for like three and a 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.400 half weeks, Like she had FaceTime to a couple of times, 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:59.760 and I like I said like, oh hey, like on FaceTime, 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:01.800 but like wasn't like in a conversation at all, Like 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.520 so I had it. I had it at him. I 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:07.400 really had any interactions. And then how do you feel 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:10.840 looking back now, do you regret it at all? No? 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:13.839 I don't. I think it's good, nor should you, because 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:16.200 I think you made the right decision. Thank you. I 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:18.479 think I would have. I think I always regret that 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:20.920 things like I do not rather than the things I do. 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:22.960 It was like one of those things I'm like, I 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:26.200 could look like an absolute freak. I probably did. I did, 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:28.000 And it was like, I look like a weirdo, but 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:30.120 like I'm like, who cares? Like people who know me 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:33.080 know me. If you think I'm a weirdo, whatever, I'm 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:35.760 gonna go for it. And so and also I feel like, 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:37.640 to you look, from the first go around, you always 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:41.719 learn how um shortsighted everyone is. Where it's like, okay, 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.000 maybe you like go in and people like have this 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:47.200 opinion of you, but then that just kind of fades 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.120 away after a short amount of time anyways, you know, 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:51.120 So it's like, forget who cares. At the end of 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:52.800 the day, you like you said, your family and friends 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:54.159 know you, they love you for who you are, and 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:56.400 so it's like who cares if some random person in 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:58.320 Arkansas was like, oh, there's weird for showing up in 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:01.600 a minivand minivand totally one thousands, and that's why I 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:03.040 was like, I was gonna go for it. I feel 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:05.160 like I have like the type person who like I 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:07.440 get like weirdly nervous and freaked out about like the 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:10.840 stupidest things, like like I'll get nervous like ascal water 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:13.960 for something, but like these big, like grand things, I'm 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:16.560 just like I don't get it's so weird, like it's 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:20.200 probably something wrong with me. But it's like okay, sure, yeah, yeah, 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.920 So you're afraid to ask the waiter for extra catchup, 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:28.880 but going on a reality TV show unprompt, I'm in baby. Yeah, 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:30.760 it's so like it's so weird. Like I was like 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.400 calling my family like talking about like booking a hotels 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:35.000 like okay, like should I asked the lady if I 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:37.200 can put my suitcase in there for an hour? And 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:39.560 they're like, you're about to go to a TV show 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:43.200 like without like by yourself, and you're afraid to ask 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.160 the lady at the Hampton ind if because she can 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:48.400 store your sea so like, yeah, it's so weird. So 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.280 I watched I watched some of Matt season, um, not 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:53.120 all of it, but I did watch that episode and 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.760 I remember specifically the girls were so mean to you. 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:57.640 Were they that mean in real life or was that 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:01.800 just like an editing thing. It was It was not 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:05.760 editing at all. Um, they were so mean. It was 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:10.400 really really intense. Yeah, Like I I think I should 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:11.640 have been I think it was. That was like the 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:13.600 one thing I was naive to, like I was expecting, 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:17.119 Like I think I kind of like it was going 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:19.840 in well aware of like what could happen, blah blah blah. 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:23.360 But I think I was like not expecting them to 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:28.200 be so intense and so like, yeah, like just on 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:31.800 the attack, Like I was just like what they were 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:34.160 extremely rude. I remember watching that episode and the like 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:37.320 Dean said, it was ridiculous. There was no reason for 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:38.960 them to be that much of a jerk to you. 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:41.920 Did they have every right to be annoyed? Of course, 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.000 like Heather, if you were on the opposite if somebody 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.680 came in halfway through Colton season like this sucks, I 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:48.560 don't want more people here. I'm annoyed. I don't like 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:52.120 this person. But the fact that they were so overly 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:54.440 mean to the point that they made you cry, God, 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:57.520 that kissed me off. It was Yeah, I know, and 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:01.080 I expected them mad, and I was like, are like frustrated, annoyed, mad, whatever? 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:02.640 And I would have been too, like I totually and 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:04.160 that's why I was like, I totally understand where you 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.000 guys are coming from. But yeah, it was just like 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:11.080 very like condescending. I just felt like less than a 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.200 human and it was like, what is happen? It was 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:16.800 not necessary? Was there any recourse after the fact, Like 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:18.720 obviously you couldn't talk to the girls that night when 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:20.400 you left, But have you spoken with any of the 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:24.000 girls from Matt season since I have? I have? I Yeah, 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:26.440 I talked to a bunch of them, and it was 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:31.200 really like immediately they were all so nice, like apologize 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:33.520 and like so like those like at this like no 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:36.000 bad blood I don't, like I understood, and I understand 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:38.959 like in that world like things are like heightened and 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:41.160 stuff like that. So when I did get stock then, 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.840 like it made me feel a lot better and like 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:47.360 that's awesome here, yeah, because like like you, like you said, 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:49.000 and what we all know is that we can you 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:51.040 can kind of lose yourself a little bit in those 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:53.920 moments because you're so amped up and like everything is 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:56.800 so heightened, and you know you're so stressed out, and 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.560 you're tired, and you're everybody's going after this one person, 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:01.720 and so you're already on edge, and so something like 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:03.360 that can set you off. So I'm glad that the 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:06.440 girls who were mean to you, we're like, hey, listen, 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.160 my bad. I kind of lost it a little bit 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:11.960 at the rental car company, were there just not very 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:14.880 many cars available? Was the van the only thing? You 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.480 know what. I just walked up to the thing and 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:19.840 I was like, hey, I need a car, and they're like, hey, 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:23.679 we have we have this minivan. In my mind, did 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:26.400 not think one thing of it. I was like, perfect, okay, 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:30.679 let's go. Like if not for a second did it 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:34.440 cross my mind that that was weird. I just didn't 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:36.680 even think about it at all. Nor did I think 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:38.560 like my car was going to be part of it. 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:42.480 I guess I okay, but I literally thought nothing of 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:44.679 them an Evan had no idea what that was gonna 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:46.120 You probably didn't even think that they were going to 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:50.040 show the car, right, Like, yeah, I was like I 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:52.040 didn't know what was gonna happen, but I definitely didn't 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:54.960 think my car, Yeah, they're going to show my car. Heather, 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:58.959 how old are you so you're probably twenty four when 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:00.480 this was filming, right, I thought you couldn't rent a 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:02.679 car until you were twenty five. I just turned twenty 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:04.959 five when when we were felling, oh you were. It 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:08.199 was like my first frontal car experience on my own. Okay, nice, 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:09.640 I was going to say that was a pretty major 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:13.640 plot hole that we looked over if you wasn't old 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:15.640 enough for the rental car. Yeah, it was perfect. It's 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:17.000 just like, I don't know what I would have done 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:19.560 if I didn't have that. You would have like taken 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:22.000 an uber up instead? Yeah? Yeah, it was like it 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:24.040 was like a couple. It was probably two hours from 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:27.000 the airport, so you could have pulled up like Harry 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:30.560 from Dumb and Dumber in the Little mop head. Oh 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:36.960 oh my god. Great missed opportunity there, damn it. So 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:40.040 my question is you've never been to Paradise. What the 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:42.280 hell is going on? Why are you not in Paradise? 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:45.400 You had because your storyline. I remember in Colton season 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:48.640 you were never you know, you were never kissed, and 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:52.400 then you had your first kiss with Colton and then 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:56.000 you remember we had dinner. It was like a bunch 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:57.400 of us and it was the first time I ever 0:10:57.440 --> 0:10:59.240 met you and you were like, oh, yeah, I'm not 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:02.520 going to Paradise. I was like, what, how could you? Like? 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:05.400 Your storyline is so like perfect. And then here we 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:08.720 are now when we're recording and Paradise is filming, and 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:11.400 if you're with us unless like you're not telling us 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:14.040 the truth and you're like, you know, obviously in a 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:16.160 hotel room waiting to go to Paradise. I'm not a 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:19.760 hotel room. You're not going back. Did you talk to 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:23.200 producers about Paradise? No, Honestly, have no conversations this time 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:27.400 about Paradise. I think I think they know and like 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:29.760 it's just like not Paradise is just like not a 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:33.280 fit for me, And like I wasn't even like, yeah, 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:37.199 it's just it's not for me. You know, you got 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:39.320 something against people that go to Paradise or something, Heather, 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:46.520 I just don't feel like I have Like it's so 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:49.560 like dating in general is just like I feel like 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:51.560 I probably have issues with it, but like I feel 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:54.600 like I'm like it would just to be it wouldn't 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:55.880 be a good setting. Like I don't feel like it 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:58.160 would be like a genuine setting for me to meet 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:00.640 someone like I just wouldn't be myself. I think the 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:04.040 consensus is that you're just you're too pure for that setting, right. 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:08.800 I don't know that too here, but yeah, like it 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:13.320 just isn't it isn't my like VI, it's it's definitely 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:18.600 um extremely stressful. I found Paradise far more stressful than 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:23.160 I did Bachelorette, and I'm sure Dean did too, because 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:26.199 all the focuses on you. You know, there's no lead, 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:30.440 so all the focuses on the contestants, and so you know, 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:34.000 as you know, you're on camera so much on Bachelor, 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:37.280 but in Paradise, you are cameras. There are cameras in 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:39.800 the bedrooms, and so, like they don't turn the lights 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:41.880 off until four, you know, whenever they turn it off, 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:44.000 like three or four in the morning sometimes especially at 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:46.319 the rose ceremonies, and it's just like and then you're 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:48.440 up at eight o'clock in the morning. You're always on cameras, 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:52.959 so you never truly know like kinda what's gonna be 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:55.400 on camera, what's not gonna be on camera because you're 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:57.160 always miked up, So what's gonna make it on TV? 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:58.839 Am I gonna be part of the storyline? It's way 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:03.440 more stressful, I found Plus that's yeah and high. It 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:06.240 does like effect you like when you're like physically not comfortable. 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:08.120 I feel like that has an effect. Do you feel 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:09.640 like it could be yourself though, when you felt like 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:12.960 the cameras are was that like and she or its 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:16.960 like easy because you're just like I have to I 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:18.800 found it, Indean, I want to know what you think 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:21.000 about this. I found it. I was much more of 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.760 myself as the camera as I got more used to it, 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:26.000 Like definitely in Paradise sent out more myself than I 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:28.640 did in Bachelor. I just because I was more used 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:32.520 to the cameras. So even Bachelor I felt very comfortable. Um. 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:34.360 I remember one time though, it was my second season 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:36.800 in Paradise and I was with Carly, and this was 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:40.559 when Carly and I weren't with anybody, and we were like, 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:45.000 we were roasting everybody, and we were on the edge 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:48.680 of the pool and we were just laughing our asses off, thinking, 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.920 oh my god, we're totally gonna get villainized from this 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:56.080 one conversation because we were just roasting everybody and we 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:58.920 thought it was the funniest thing. But maybe not. It 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:01.280 wouldn't have been that funny looking back on it watching it, 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:06.040 but it never made air. So who knows. There's so 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:08.199 much stuff that they have to pull from that, like anything, 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:10.240 well not anything, but you think something's gonna make it 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:11.720 and doesn't make it. But you are a lot more 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:14.480 accountable for your actions down there, which is a good 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:15.880 thing and a bad thing. I guess in a sense, 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:19.000 I would say, uh, yeah, I definitely gotta let my 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:23.040 f boy flag fly the first season, But you're just 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:24.640 kind of more like relaxed. I don't know. I was 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:28.040 more relaxed, I don't know, less focused, more relaxed, way 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:30.440 more wey, way more drunk the first time, at least 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:33.560 the second time. I didn't drink fortunately at all the 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:37.400 second time. No sober guy the second time. A lot 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:39.600 of I've noticed within my life a lot of the 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:41.440 bad decisions that I make happen when I'm under the 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.320 influence of alcohol. So, uh, you know, younger Dean didn't 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:46.240 really seem to mind being drunk too much, but older 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:49.600 Dean has a much more clear judgment these days. And 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:51.760 don't get me wrong, it's still very bad judgment often, 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:53.960 But when I'm sober and a lot I'm a lot 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:59.360 more reasonable. I think you acknowledge that. Did you have 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:01.080 to have any Drea to call me nerves going into 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.920 math season? No, no drinking at all, Like I wasn't 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:05.280 even like I could of like get, like, you know, 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:08.120 a glass of wine. I honestly did not want to drink. 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:10.320 I'm not a big drinker in general, but I didn't 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:11.760 want to drink like that much at all on my 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:14.160 first season. But then I was like, oh, I'd love 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:16.560 a glass of wine before you know, I'm just about 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:19.240 to do something insane, but I was I was driving before, 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:22.440 so they didn't even let me have like, So, no, 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:25.920 there was no drinking antle responsible of you. When the 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:29.800 ash and I went down to get engaged, ash obviously 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:32.480 wasn't sure we were getting engaged. I was trying to 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:34.880 throw her off and so we're all our friends, so 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:37.080 she didn't really know. But when we were driving down there, 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:40.280 she was She had like three glasses of champagne. And 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:43.400 we're not big drinkers either, but she likes having some, 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:46.600 you know, champagne to kind of feel a little bit looser. 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:48.840 And I'm like, oh my god, Ashley is gonna be 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:52.080 wasted during her engagement. And at what point she grabbed 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:55.000 the bottle and started drinking from the bottle, and I'm like, 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:58.280 give me this thing. Okay. She was extremely nervous and 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:01.920 I get it. I was like, good lord, just it's 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:03.760 kind of surprising to you that she was nervous. She 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:05.280 was nervous. She didn't know if she was about to 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:09.280 be proposed to she was going on camera. It was 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:13.000 a very weird moment. Anyway. One of my one of 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.920 my favorite photos is of you on your knee asking 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:18.320 her to marry you, and her like heels are dug 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:21.920 into the sand. She see like standing flat footed, but 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:23.520 she's wearing like four in chhields or something like that 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:25.480 just looks so funny. Yeah, it's the most Ashley moment 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:28.880 of all time. Oh yeah, all right, Well we do 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:30.760 have a lot to talk about. Obviously, we're going to 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:34.760 address address the Chris Harrison situation that happened this week. 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:45.680 But before we get into that, let's take a quick break. 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:50.560 All right, welcome back to help I suck at dating myself. 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:54.920 Dean heaven Martin is here now listen. June nine was 0:16:54.960 --> 0:17:00.480 apparently National Sex Day. Uh, so we may have sex 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:05.560 questions uh lined up for you. Heather and Dean all 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:08.040 like very pg don't worry about it, all very fun 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:11.280 stuff like you know, we're dating podcast. Obviously sex is 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:13.119 a part of dating. So these are the things that 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:15.440 we got to talk about. But first, on a little 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:17.720 bit more of a sour note, I do want to 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:21.320 address the Chris Harrison situation. Obviously, uh, you guys have 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.919 all heard Chris Harrison has permanently exited the Bachelor franchise 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:29.560 after nineteen seasons. UM. Chris gave an interview with Rachel 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:32.880 Lindsay a little recap where he was debating defending Rachel 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:35.040 Cornell when she went to an antebellum party. He was 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.240 defending her, but it really looked like he was defending 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:40.520 kind of the racism of act. Uh. And then he 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:44.440 ended up leaving UM, not hosting after the final Rose 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.639 on Matt James season, and then did not do Katie's season. 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:49.480 It was announced that he was not coming back for Paradise, 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:52.880 and now it was just announced that Chris Harrison will 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:56.119 no longer be a part of the Bachelor franchise. And 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:59.640 when this news dropped on Tuesday, I'm not I don't 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.560 think it's hyperbole to say that this might be one 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:06.800 of the biggest moments in the franchise's history. I've always, 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:08.560 you know, ashe and I have always joked like, oh, 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.720 I wonder when Chris will retire or when he'll leave, 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:14.600 like will the show go on? What will happen afterwards? 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:18.280 And now we're at this moment. Chris is no longer 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:20.240 a part of the franchise, and it makes me wonder 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:23.240 what where do you know, do they get a new host? 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:27.080 What does the franchise look like moving forward? Um? You know, 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:31.080 will it be as good without Chris? Um? For me, 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:34.040 it makes me really sad that Chris is gone. I 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:36.120 said from the beginning, I was always hoping that he'd 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:38.520 be back and given an opportunity to get his job back. 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:42.000 I think he grossly mishandled the interview. We've talked about 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.800 this many times. We don't have to rehash that, but 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:47.679 I don't think he should have lost his job. I 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:50.240 wish he was given an opportunity to come back. Obviously 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:53.400 he wasn't. Um. It seemed like the Bachelor didn't want 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.480 him to come back for whatever reason. I don't really 0:18:56.520 --> 0:19:02.159 know why, Um, but they've moved on from him, and 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:06.080 I wish nothing but the best for Chris. Um you 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:10.120 know he's a good man. Uh, he's a friend. UM. 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:12.800 You know we're we're close with Lauren Zima, his girlfriend 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:16.480 as well. You know we love them together. Um. You 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:18.600 know he's a dad. It seems like he got a 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:22.399 pretty good payout from this um to make sure he 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:24.720 didn't write a tell all. I don't really know these 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:29.199 are what are um, but uh it sucks. It's just 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:33.720 it's a changing of the guard. And uh. I wish that, 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:37.760