WEBVTT - RHONJ: Margaret THREATENS not to FILM?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Reality with the King.

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<v Speaker 2>It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, rain Drops.

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<v Speaker 2>On today's episode of Reality with the King, we have

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about breaking news.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a nanny nine to one one.

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<v Speaker 2>I can confirm that, yes, every single New Jersey Housewife

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<v Speaker 2>plus the friends child, Hey Jackie, has been acts to

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<v Speaker 2>come back to the next season of The Real Housewives.

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<v Speaker 1>Of New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 2>Now y'all know how I feel about this already, and

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<v Speaker 2>I have more to talk about, but I could not

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<v Speaker 2>do this episode alone. I am enjoyed by my girl,

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<v Speaker 2>who I love, love love. Her name is Sarah Gali

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<v Speaker 2>and she is the host of the very popular and

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<v Speaker 2>successful podcast called and These Girls, and she knows all

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<v Speaker 2>things Bravo and more. Please give it up, y'all, rain

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<v Speaker 2>Drops for my girl, Sarah.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my God, The King and the dam again. I

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<v Speaker 3>could not be happier. A tale of two clophases. We

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<v Speaker 3>are ready, I mean, Carlos King, I can't tell you

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<v Speaker 3>a dream come true to be on the people's people's

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<v Speaker 3>couch here in my cough key key to really deep

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<v Speaker 3>dive everything with you. You are the one. You are

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<v Speaker 3>the one, so this is a thrill. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 3>much for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of people have been anticipating my

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<v Speaker 2>response because I said on Everyone's podcast and cling my

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<v Speaker 2>own and wherever there was a microphone in a ring

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<v Speaker 2>light that I needed Melissa gone. I was very honest

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<v Speaker 2>about it. I've said that I don't want to see

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<v Speaker 2>a show with Teresa Melissa on at the same time

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<v Speaker 2>I'm done. I said, either you keep Teresa and lose

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<v Speaker 2>Melissa and put her on pause for a year, or

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<v Speaker 2>you keep Melissa and spin off Teresa Louis and the girls. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>no one listens to me like they never do, and

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<v Speaker 2>we see how that ends up for people.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is.

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<v Speaker 2>True, Sarah, everybody has been asked back before I give

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<v Speaker 2>you my deep dive opinion about it, which may surprise

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<v Speaker 2>some people or not.

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<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts on this, Sarah, Well, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, similar to your thinking. There was a long period

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<v Speaker 3>of time where it wasn't even just my opinion, but

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<v Speaker 3>absolute expectation that it was seemingly impossible to continue the

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<v Speaker 3>story on New Jersey with both Tree and Melissa. To me,

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<v Speaker 3>it became less about and opinions of who you empathize

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<v Speaker 3>with most and more about just pure production logistics. Are

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<v Speaker 3>we going to see a season where the cast is

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<v Speaker 3>literally split in the worst possible way, where we can't

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<v Speaker 3>see group events or group dynamics, And honestly, now I'm

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<v Speaker 3>okay with it. I feel like they will figure a

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<v Speaker 3>way out. I honestly don't think that Teresa and Melissa

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<v Speaker 3>are the biggest hindrance to filming next season. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that there's somebody else who's going to have a bigger

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<v Speaker 3>impact in that, Oh, Louie. I think that there's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a lot of difficulty with cast members wanting

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<v Speaker 3>to film with Louie. I don't think that it's about

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<v Speaker 3>Teresa and Melissa, or even Teresa and Joe. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that the last episode of the reunion was very bad

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<v Speaker 3>for Louie, which of course makes me concern for Teresa,

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<v Speaker 3>but like also for the cast moving forward, he threatened

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<v Speaker 3>everybody in the cast, like every time he took.

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<v Speaker 1>A allegedly, let's talk about this.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally literally literally potato otana.

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<v Speaker 1>But now listen, all jokes aside.

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<v Speaker 2>What is so interesting about all of this is the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that I have heard from a very reliable source

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<v Speaker 2>that allegedly Margaret Joseph has threatened not to film this

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<v Speaker 2>upcoming season of The Real Housewives in New Jersey if

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<v Speaker 2>Louie is a part of it. The reason being is

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<v Speaker 2>because as we all saw in the amazing three partment reunion,

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<v Speaker 2>that Margaret has alleged that Louie contacted her son at

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<v Speaker 2>his work, and they have the phone records to prove it.

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<v Speaker 2>And she said that not only did Louie contact her son,

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<v Speaker 2>that he.

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<v Speaker 1>You say, literally, I say, allegedly.

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<v Speaker 2>Threatened her son, and she doesn't want any involvement with him.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm saying you are right in the sense of

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<v Speaker 2>that is what I'm also hearing.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing about The.

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<v Speaker 2>Real Housewives is at the end of the day, it

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<v Speaker 2>is about the women and their relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>Margaret is great.

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<v Speaker 2>For the show. She's a great housewife. I think Margaret's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to be very careful when you threaten, allegedly threaten,

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<v Speaker 2>in this case, Margaret threatening not to film if somebody's

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<v Speaker 2>a part of it, because you don't want people to

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<v Speaker 2>call your bluff. So if that is true, Sarah, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you think about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>Need I think that's an excellent point. I mean, BCC

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<v Speaker 3>the negotiations for legacy, because if you threatened to walk,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're not going to get what you're paid, Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 3>even if you, I would argue, deserve it, they might

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<v Speaker 3>well walk. Like are you prepared for what's going to

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<v Speaker 3>happen if they take you at your word. It's hard

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<v Speaker 3>because I totally agree with what you're saying. I think

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<v Speaker 3>the worst possible thing his wife can do, aside from

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<v Speaker 3>one off moments when it's like spectacular, is to threaten

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<v Speaker 3>not to film. However, how much of that of what

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<v Speaker 3>Marge is saying is a threat versus a reaction? Like

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<v Speaker 3>how much of it is her just saying I hate

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<v Speaker 3>this person so I'm not going to film with them,

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<v Speaker 3>versus I am responding to how they behaved at the

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<v Speaker 3>reunion and what we are currently led to believe both

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<v Speaker 3>by Rachel the you know, questioning of what happened with

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<v Speaker 3>John Fuda's ex wife to what Louis himself was saying,

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<v Speaker 3>to the fact that he arranged for security to arrive

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<v Speaker 3>for his in Teresa's protection without informing production, Like, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot that happened that didn't make sense that Honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>I have a lot of empathy for Teresa about like,

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<v Speaker 3>I really I want her to be happy. I want

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<v Speaker 3>her to have her happy, happily ever after. But I

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<v Speaker 3>know so many huggers and people who are Team Tree,

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<v Speaker 3>who are like every alarm in my body is going

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<v Speaker 3>off about Louis. So I don't begrudge March for saying that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, A lot of people feel like Louie is dangerous

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<v Speaker 2>in general. A lot of people have alleged that they

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<v Speaker 2>believe Louie is using Teresa. A lot of people have

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<v Speaker 2>been alleging that Louie is taking advantage of Teresa's fame

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<v Speaker 2>to create his own notoriety by being.

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<v Speaker 1>Married to her.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't watch last season of The Real House of Wasson,

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<v Speaker 2>New Jersey. I didn't see a lot of the Louie

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<v Speaker 2>behavior that a lot of people have saw to warrant

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<v Speaker 2>their opinions about him. I was very honest that I

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<v Speaker 2>have definitely communicated with Louie. From what I have experienced

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<v Speaker 2>with Louie, he has been nothing but a great person,

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<v Speaker 2>a great guy, very nice, very chill.

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<v Speaker 1>He loves Teresa.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my experience with Louie, and we all have our

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<v Speaker 2>own experience. So I'm not going to just mix up

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<v Speaker 2>that I haven't seen on the show, because I've been

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<v Speaker 2>very honest. I didn't watch the entire season because of that. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>based on what I saw at the reunion, I definitely

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<v Speaker 2>understand why.

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<v Speaker 1>People feel that way too.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also understand why people are saying, and I

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<v Speaker 2>said this too, Sarah. Okay, Margaret, if he threatened your son,

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<v Speaker 2>that is bad, and Louis should be condemned for that

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<v Speaker 2>one thousand percent, and I will stand by that. What

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<v Speaker 2>I questioned was why wasn't the receipt of the phone

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<v Speaker 2>record shown the way the text message with JaQuel Loreta

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<v Speaker 2>was shown as well? Is there some validity to it

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<v Speaker 2>or not? That was my questioning for that. But outside

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<v Speaker 2>of that, now that the entire cast is coming back,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure I'm gonna watch this upcoming season because

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<v Speaker 2>what I feel like is going to happen Sarah is

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<v Speaker 2>Teresa's over Melissa and what I hate from a show

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<v Speaker 2>that I've experienced, and I'm gonna give you guys some examples.

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<v Speaker 2>There is nothing worse than having main casts not speak

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<v Speaker 2>to each other for multiple episodes. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you guys know this season four of the Real Housewives

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<v Speaker 2>of Atlanta, Niini and Kim did not speak for the

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<v Speaker 2>entire season. And at that time in my career, I

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<v Speaker 2>was a supervising producer. I was brought up on that

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<v Speaker 2>show as being Niini and Kim's producer. I was the

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<v Speaker 2>closest to Ninie and Kim, and I could not merge

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<v Speaker 2>these two people together. I could not forge a conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>It damaged that season. Neie and Kim not speaking made

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<v Speaker 2>Season four of The Atlanta Housewives, in my opinion, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the worst seasons of Atlanta because you have these

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<v Speaker 2>two big stars whose friendship we loved, did not even

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<v Speaker 2>say a hello to each other. With Melissa and Teresa

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<v Speaker 2>coming back, Sarah, Teresa, She's not going to talk to Melissa.

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<v Speaker 2>No one can force her to do. It is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a very word season. And I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>say this, and y'all may be mad at me, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's very shortsighted to bring everybody back, because I

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<v Speaker 2>think we're all yearning for something different, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Yet it feels like there would be a piece missing, honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>potentially if Teresa or Melissa were gone. And I know

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<v Speaker 3>that doesn't make any sense. And I was one of

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<v Speaker 3>the maybe few who really appreciated this season. I know

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people were exhausted and over it, and

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<v Speaker 3>I completely understand it, and I wonder, honestly, how much

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<v Speaker 3>of my interest in it, like I was really all in,

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<v Speaker 3>how much of my interest in it was because I

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<v Speaker 3>assumed this was the last season with Teresa and Melissa.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched the finale, the wedding special, the three part reunion,

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<v Speaker 2>because I said, I want to be a part of

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<v Speaker 2>history where I get to see how Melissa and Teresa's

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<v Speaker 2>friendship ends. And I was, I'm going to be very

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<v Speaker 2>honest with you all. I was satisfied with the ending

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<v Speaker 2>of the story. I thought Melissa had her best reunion ever,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought it was nice to see the ending

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<v Speaker 2>chapter of this story.

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<v Speaker 3>And I also think this conversation is incredibly important because

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<v Speaker 3>so often there the standum on social certainly really truly

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<v Speaker 3>becomes like its own individual archetype, and there is this

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<v Speaker 3>idea because it feels like a reality that tree huggers

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<v Speaker 3>and Gorgita crunches as we are known, which was named

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<v Speaker 3>by our friend Evan Real of page six. And I

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<v Speaker 3>say that noting that there have been times with Teresa

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<v Speaker 3>during Strippergate, during those Tucker seasons where it was difficult

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<v Speaker 3>for me to watch her because I thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the thing with Teresa is her capacity to really understand

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<v Speaker 3>on an emotional perspective another person's experience or opinion has

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<v Speaker 3>been very complicated for her, just in my humble opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>That being said, I can disagree with Teresa's behavior and

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely still want the best for her. And I can

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<v Speaker 3>disagree with Teresa's behavior and also say that the original

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<v Speaker 3>sin needs to be resolved between Teresa and Melissa and

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<v Speaker 3>joining the show, which is not to say that they

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<v Speaker 3>had a great relationship. It's not to say that this

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<v Speaker 3>was entirely subterfuge, although obviously you would have a lot

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<v Speaker 3>more to say about that, literally, not allegedly. But with

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<v Speaker 3>that being said, I think that there is some nuance

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<v Speaker 3>here of steps that could be taken so that Teresa

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<v Speaker 3>feels heard, and I don't know if the same can

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<v Speaker 3>be said for Melissa. I don't know that Teresa has

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<v Speaker 3>that capacity. I think the olive branch always has to

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<v Speaker 3>be extended to her first. But some of that might

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<v Speaker 3>be because of the original sin, because of Teresa feeling

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<v Speaker 3>like she was misled and manipulated in how her brother

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<v Speaker 3>and sister in law joined the show. I have the

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<v Speaker 3>capacity personally to find a lot of nuance in Gray

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<v Speaker 3>in this, but I also think Melissa at the union

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<v Speaker 3>was like a fucking superstar egot level performance. I thought

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<v Speaker 3>she was on fire. It was like giving go girl,

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<v Speaker 3>give us nothing, which I was into.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, now, Sarah, I have to ask, are you telling

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<v Speaker 2>me that you are looking forward to seeing the same

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<v Speaker 2>CAZ next season.

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<v Speaker 3>I am telling you that based on Melissa's performance, it

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<v Speaker 3>would make no sense for her to leave at this point,

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<v Speaker 3>and if they don't want to cut Tree and have

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<v Speaker 3>her be on a spinoff, because I think Louie has

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<v Speaker 3>an impact in that and I think he lost a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people by his behavior at the reunion, which

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<v Speaker 3>didn't make sense. And I do just have to circle

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<v Speaker 3>back on one little thing you said, which was a

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<v Speaker 3>question about Marge not having a screenshot that feels comparable

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<v Speaker 3>to like the actual phone record. The important thing there

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<v Speaker 3>to me is that Teresa and Louie both acknowledged that

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<v Speaker 3>it was his phone number, which is why the little

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<v Speaker 3>action after of like Teresa being like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>someone's calling me right after texting on her phone being like, look,

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<v Speaker 3>this is an example of how someone could call from

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<v Speaker 3>someone else. It's like, I don't think that Teresa and

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<v Speaker 3>Louie were questioning that somehow magically someone called from Louie's

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<v Speaker 3>phone number, So I think that's important, Like, if they're

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<v Speaker 3>not questioning the fact that that happened, we should believe

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<v Speaker 3>them in that sense. It's just a matter of Louie

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<v Speaker 3>taking responsibility for it.

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<v Speaker 1>If he did it, condemn him.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean that, And I'm going on a record

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<v Speaker 2>saying that nobody should threaten someone's child.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care if they're eighth, eighteen or eighty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>They did not sign on to do the show, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's something that is gross and I'm never

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<v Speaker 2>going to waiver from that. So I want the world

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<v Speaker 2>to know if Louis did that, it's gross, and if

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<v Speaker 2>Margaret is saying because he did it, allegedly.

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<v Speaker 1>And that she doesn't want to film.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I will say this, nobody wants to feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you're giving them an ultimatum. It's not going to end

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<v Speaker 2>well for you. People don't like ultimatums. It doesn't end

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<v Speaker 2>well for you. The other thing that's not ending well

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<v Speaker 2>in terms for me, Sarah, is the fact that Jersey

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<v Speaker 2>to Me was one of the best franchises in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm disturbed, quite honestly, because it's okay to get rid

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<v Speaker 2>of Lisa Rena.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay to put her on pause.

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<v Speaker 2>It's okay to put Derenda on Pauls. It's okay to

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<v Speaker 2>put Tamra on Pauls. It's okay to put kenyam Moore

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<v Speaker 2>on Pauls. These women who are iconic and deliver. Why

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<v Speaker 2>is it okay for these other women who are iconic

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<v Speaker 2>If you agree to be put on palls and you

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<v Speaker 2>mean to tell me we can't at least say let's see,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just see what a season could be like without

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<v Speaker 2>one of them.

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<v Speaker 3>And I hear you, But I think the difference there,

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<v Speaker 3>certainly in those samples, which I think are important, is

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<v Speaker 3>that when you look at Dirinda's last season when you

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<v Speaker 3>look at Rena's last season, if you look at Kenya's

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<v Speaker 3>last season, if you look at Nini's last season, there

0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:17.000
<v Speaker 3>is a common denominator, which is not even the relationships

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<v Speaker 3>with other people, but a certain element of like over

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<v Speaker 3>it darkness, especially with Dorinda, who truly couldn't acknowledge misbehavior

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<v Speaker 3>because within the storytelling of that season it was directly

0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:36.080
<v Speaker 3>connected to her drinking, which she refused to acknowledge. With Renna,

0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:41.080
<v Speaker 3>she was just doing too fucking much and it was

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<v Speaker 3>almost unwatchable. And with Tamra, it felt like she had

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<v Speaker 3>reached over the very very top of whatever boiling a

0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:53.360
<v Speaker 3>point would have occurred where it's like, this isn't driving

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<v Speaker 3>us forward. And it's not to say these aren't spectacular housewives,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just to say that it felt like they needed

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<v Speaker 3>to ease or be put on pause. And Andy said,

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<v Speaker 3>Derenda's the only one who really was or let go

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<v Speaker 3>with Renna and Tamra, who who honestly is a superstar

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<v Speaker 3>for fucking acknowledging it and being like, yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 3>fired and now I'm back, but I was fired. I

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<v Speaker 3>think with Melissa, it's it's a question of relationship and circumstance,

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<v Speaker 3>which isn't to say that's not an issue, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>to me not about her actual behavior. It's not that

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<v Speaker 3>she's in a state of denial or a state where

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, there's no coming back from this right now

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<v Speaker 3>because you're doing too much. I personally don't see that.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't take away from the like, how the fuck

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<v Speaker 3>are we moving forward if these two people literally are

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<v Speaker 3>dead to each other. I don't have an answer for that.

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<v Speaker 3>But I did think that the Lewis stuff, aside the

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<v Speaker 3>reunion was still really fascinating and obviously really sad, and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't it's it's a question mark. Maybe there's some

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<v Speaker 3>idea or maybe there's an understanding with Teresa and Maliss

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<v Speaker 3>where it's like we'ren't neither of us want to say

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<v Speaker 3>no to the fame, to the celebrity, into the paycheck,

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<v Speaker 3>and so they're just gonna have to figure something out.

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<v Speaker 2>Outside of Kenya. I didn't feel like Kenya's last season

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<v Speaker 2>she jumped the shark. But I do agree with you

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<v Speaker 2>about Tamra, Lisa, Morenda and Derenda about their last seasons

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<v Speaker 2>before they would put on palls, it was sort of

0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:20.320
<v Speaker 2>jumped the shark ish. It was sort of like they

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<v Speaker 2>became a caricature of themselves, a little bit breaking the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth wall and feel like I'm the star and behaving

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<v Speaker 2>that way. With that being said, do you think Teresa

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<v Speaker 2>should be put on pause?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I thought I thought that. I always

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<v Speaker 3>assumed that there were two housewives. I think, and I

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<v Speaker 3>could probably still argue this that have for reasons relating

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<v Speaker 3>to seniority or just having a foundational role in a

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<v Speaker 3>franchise would not to me be let go in any

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<v Speaker 3>way in the mere future. And I would say that

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<v Speaker 3>for Kyle and Teresa that I just think, say what

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<v Speaker 3>you want about Kyle. She's not an alpha. She's a

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<v Speaker 3>very strong and she is at the foundation of the

0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:06.040
<v Speaker 3>Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. And I think Kyle's in

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<v Speaker 3>my top five. But regardless of that, I think that

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<v Speaker 3>she's foundational. Teresa's not in my top five. I can

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<v Speaker 3>acknowledge she's really fucking important for the history of housewives,

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<v Speaker 3>and I can also say that she deserves I think

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<v Speaker 3>she deserves to stay on the show. Like you can

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<v Speaker 3>respect someone's history and power and the gifts they've given

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<v Speaker 3>to housewives and also say I don't know that there's

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<v Speaker 3>a future for them moving forward. I wouldn't say that

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<v Speaker 3>about Teresa, but I do think as someone who is

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<v Speaker 3>appreciative for Teresa that at a certain point it can

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<v Speaker 3>be difficult to watch her refuse to like listen and

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<v Speaker 3>have capacity for someone else's opinion if it is in

0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:52.600
<v Speaker 3>direct contrast to her own. That can be tough. That's

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<v Speaker 3>also maybe what makes her a good housewife is like

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<v Speaker 3>the refusal to acknowledge that that's still going to be

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<v Speaker 3>tough for me. But but you know, I don't think

0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:06.680
<v Speaker 3>that Teresa or Melissa should necessarily lose their job. As

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<v Speaker 3>in watching the reunion in its entirety, I really.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to ask you this, speaking of networks and

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<v Speaker 2>executives not lacking aultimatums, do you think by Teresa telling Melissa, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad this the last time I'm going to see you,

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<v Speaker 2>and Melissa's like, where are you going? She said, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going anywhere, honey, you are She said, oh really,

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<v Speaker 2>I am kind of intimating that one of us has

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<v Speaker 2>to go. And Teresa even went as far as saying, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people are saying the show can move forward

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<v Speaker 2>with the two of us, and Andy sort of made

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<v Speaker 2>a face.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that statement made the network think, even

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<v Speaker 2>if we were thinking about maybe putting Melissa on pause,

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<v Speaker 2>we can't make it seem like Teresa have the power

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<v Speaker 2>to initiate it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that ultimately any decision about Melissa's future

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<v Speaker 3>would have been decided by that moment alone. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that moment became illustrative for people because it was Melissa

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<v Speaker 3>had a very quick, smart ass response, and because it

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<v Speaker 3>was a moment that exemplified a lot about this date

0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:03.320
<v Speaker 3>of their current relationship. That's why people latched onto it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I absolutely don't think for a single moment that

0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:09.960
<v Speaker 3>that was the reason that Melissa's back. Similar by the

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<v Speaker 3>way to me to Carol saying to Andy, you're scared

0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 3>of her to Bethany, like that was an iconic moment

0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:20.600
<v Speaker 3>that was illustrative. That moment is specific in and of itself,

0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:22.560
<v Speaker 3>because I do think it pissed off Andy, but I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think that's why Carol wasn't has back, like something

0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:29.000
<v Speaker 3>could become an example and not be the reason. And

0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:32.440
<v Speaker 3>this is to me kind of what that was illustrative

0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:36.639
<v Speaker 3>of the relationship, but not a directional to anybody in

0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:38.520
<v Speaker 3>a position of power casting.

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<v Speaker 2>Her Otherwise, Teresa looks at Melissa as if she was

0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:48.080
<v Speaker 2>the judge who sentenced her to camp. Teresa never loved

0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:54.359
<v Speaker 2>Melissa ever, and the way Teresa looks at Melissa. I

0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:58.720
<v Speaker 2>don't think the constant notion of saying hey, it is

0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:01.080
<v Speaker 2>about the check. I think think it works season three,

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:04.680
<v Speaker 2>four or five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve.

0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 2>And I just think Teresa at the point now where

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<v Speaker 2>it's like I was a professional, I did my job.

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:14.040
<v Speaker 2>I did everything you guys asked me to do. I'm

0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:18.280
<v Speaker 2>telling you physically, physically, I can't even look her direction.

0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:21.239
<v Speaker 2>So if you force them in a scene together and

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:24.439
<v Speaker 2>you forced Teresa talk to her, You're going to see

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<v Speaker 2>like and that's my concern Sarah watching, it will feel

0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:30.719
<v Speaker 2>like you guys are forcing these women to converse and

0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:31.880
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't feel natural.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's my concern for the show moving forward.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're spot on. I think that is, honestly

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of an AHA moment, what you said

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:44.399
<v Speaker 3>about Teresa looking at Melissa and seeing honestly the face

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 3>of the judge who sentenced her. I think that there

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:51.639
<v Speaker 3>is something very spiritually to be said about that, and

0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 3>I think that's concerning. I don't know how much of

0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:58.119
<v Speaker 3>that has to do with Melissa's behavior. I think a

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:01.360
<v Speaker 3>lot of that starts with Teresa. The fact that at

0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:05.520
<v Speaker 3>this point one hundred years later, we are still litigating

0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:09.239
<v Speaker 3>who sent Teresa to camp when the answer is so

0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:12.160
<v Speaker 3>fucking obvious that I think Andy was in a place

0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 3>of shock. When it's like Joe, who Teresa even said,

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:17.960
<v Speaker 3>wasn't trying to hurt me, but maybe he was out to,

0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:21.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, screw with juicy Joe. Joe Gorga did not

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:26.200
<v Speaker 3>send her to jail. Her husband did. Her husband betrayed her,

0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:29.640
<v Speaker 3>her husband deceived her. So when we start to conflate

0:26:30.160 --> 0:26:33.120
<v Speaker 3>what happened with the Gorgas joining the show and who

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:36.480
<v Speaker 3>is responsible for some of the biggest heartbreak of her life,

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:40.320
<v Speaker 3>losing time with her parents, losing her marriage, having to

0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:43.520
<v Speaker 3>survive as a single parent and provide for her kids

0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:46.639
<v Speaker 3>and payback taxes and everything else that is not on

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:49.080
<v Speaker 3>Joe Borga. So when we get into a conversation of

0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:51.919
<v Speaker 3>you didn't film with me, I only you know, let

0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:55.520
<v Speaker 3>you come to the prison when the contracts were signed

0:26:55.520 --> 0:26:57.440
<v Speaker 3>for the spinoff and you didn't film with me, and

0:26:57.760 --> 0:27:00.640
<v Speaker 3>putting food for the kids on the table. I get

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:03.960
<v Speaker 3>some of Teresa's upset there, but it feels like there's

0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:07.160
<v Speaker 3>a lot of misplaced anger and rage. And I say

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 3>that noting that, as you just said really eloquently and correctly.

0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:16.120
<v Speaker 3>I think when it comes to having faith, Theresa never

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 3>had faith in Melissa like she did in Jacqueline, like

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:22.119
<v Speaker 3>she did in Caroline, like she maybe did in Daniel

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:25.760
<v Speaker 3>Stop for three seconds, Like, you can't lose the faith

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:28.320
<v Speaker 3>if you never had it, which doesn't mean that another

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 3>person's behavior can't hurt you. But the stakes were much

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:36.440
<v Speaker 3>higher for her friends because she really did consider them family.

0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 3>So like your spot on there and the thing that

0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 3>I talked about on Andy's Girls, which is a pot

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:45.600
<v Speaker 3>all about the psychology behind the housewives, is how I

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:48.159
<v Speaker 3>don't think this is in any way realistic, and I

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:51.119
<v Speaker 3>don't know what it would actually do long term, but

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 3>I think short term, if there was a conversation but

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 3>and this is imaginary, this isn't gonna I under I

0:27:56.840 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 3>acknowledged this like exists in my head, this is my

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:03.320
<v Speaker 3>own spirit arsenal. But if it was possible to have

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:06.639
<v Speaker 3>not Louis there, but Teresa in a room with Teresa

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 3>and Melissa, or Teresa and Melissa and Joe, maybe just

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:14.639
<v Speaker 3>Teresa and Melissa and have a conversation where maybe Melissa says, listen,

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 3>we were in a shitty dynamic as sisters in law

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:21.239
<v Speaker 3>before I'm not going to get into it. We can

0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 3>have a conversation about whether I went behind your back

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:27.200
<v Speaker 3>to join Housewives. That's the original sin. What I can

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:32.920
<v Speaker 3>acknowledge is, regardless of who facebooked whom first, I understood

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:35.959
<v Speaker 3>that me joining the show would fuck with you. I

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:38.400
<v Speaker 3>think we could move forward a little bit, and to me,

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 3>as a Gorgiana Crunch, that's not me thinking that Melissa

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 3>is the devil. That's me thinking that these are two

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:48.360
<v Speaker 3>people who are already in a toxic dynamic as sisters

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 3>in law, and Melissa understood that joining the show is

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 3>going to upset her sister in law, and she did

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 3>it anyway. I don't think that makes Melissa the devil.

0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:00.160
<v Speaker 3>I think that makes Melissa someone who sees an opportunity.

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 3>But until they get to that point and figure out

0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 3>a way to meet in the middle with the original sin,

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 3>how Melissa joined the show, I don't know that we

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 3>can get anywhere else.

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, and that's the thing I agree with you, I said.

0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 2>I said, if Melissa would have said, look bitch, I did,

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 2>if we were friends, I'm sorry, let's move on. I've

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 2>been but guess what, honey, I've been on the shop

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 2>for ten years, kiss my ass.

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 1>I would have been like, yes, m low, now.

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Go perform with go perform with Shakira at the super Bowl.

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Bitch like work, But I got it, so by in

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 2>closing of that particular section, I agree with you one

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent, Sarah.

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>But this the gag.

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:41.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't care to hear y'all talk about that shit anymore.

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:45.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm over it, like I want to move on from it.

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:50.360
<v Speaker 2>So I guess we'll just have to see, Sarah.

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 3>Can I just say one little ps, of course, which

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 3>is circling back a little to something that I have

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 3>acknowledged once or twice, But I do just want to say,

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:03.200
<v Speaker 3>and this be too cynical of me, but I also

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:07.960
<v Speaker 3>think it's obvious and very realistic. The best case scenario

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 3>for Teresa right now is for Joe and Melissa to

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 3>return to the show, because if Joe and Melissa were

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 3>not on the show and Teresa was, all of the

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:22.160
<v Speaker 3>attention next season would shift to being on Louie because

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 3>there is so many questions. There are so many questions

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:27.080
<v Speaker 3>about them about him. He did not behave well at

0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 3>the reunion, and people are genuinely concerned. I don't think

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 3>Teresa or Louie, regardless of whether or not there's any

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 3>merit to that, I don't think they would want that

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 3>to happen. So to have Joe and Melissa on might

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 3>still include Louie conversation, but it wouldn't be all hands

0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 3>on deck eighteen different arsenals looking directly at him. And

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 3>I know that's a difficult pill to swallow, but so

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 3>is Louie.

0:30:55.560 --> 0:31:01.840
<v Speaker 1>So I mean consider it vitamin g like how not

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:03.960
<v Speaker 1>viden bit Gorgita crunch.

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh, Sarah, you are a so look again, And guys,

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 2>I want to say this on the record, so listen up.

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Quite the music, quite everything.

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Do don do, dun do dun If next season is good,

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:23.360
<v Speaker 2>I'll be the first bitch to acknowledge it, admit it,

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 2>and would eat some humble pie because I'm.

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Always going to be honest.

0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 2>I am telling you, guys, I am going to watch

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 2>the first episode. That's the best I can promise you.

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 2>Rain Drops, Carlos King the first is promising on my

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:44.160
<v Speaker 2>national platform that I will watch the first episode of

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 2>the upcoming season of The Real House, Washing New Jersey

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 2>and Baby.

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 1>If you guys don't hook me into something.

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 2>New and fresh, then I'm out.

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I was out after two episodes last season.

0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 2>So I'm a man of my word, and if I'm wrong,

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 2>I will come back on this podcast. Make me some

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 2>plant based humble pie, and eat that motherfucker in front

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 2>of everybody.

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay, we love.

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 3>A gluten freek craft.

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 2>It would be crunchy lack of orgita. Now, Sarah, before

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 2>I let you go, my love. The Real Housewives of

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 2>New York City reboot premiered recently. We're going to recap

0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 2>that much later this season. But you just so happened

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 2>to have gone to the premiere, the rid carpet premiere

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 2>that featured the new cast, Andy Cohen, some other Bravo celebrities,

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 2>I believe. Can you tell us what happened at this

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:45.320
<v Speaker 2>rick carpet invite only premiere party.

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 3>So I was fortunate enough to attend the premiere party,

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 3>which was last night at the Rainbow Room here in

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 3>New York City, extremely bougie affair. It was like a

0:32:57.560 --> 0:33:01.480
<v Speaker 3>lot of fun. All of us got a absolutely slashed,

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 3>like full on turtle time with shamps. Andy was mingling

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 3>with the crowd throughout the night. The cast was mingling.

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 3>I did use my go girl, give us nothing in

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:15.840
<v Speaker 3>conversation with Jenna Lyons, who I was like, you're the

0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 3>reason I wore schambre and a pencil skirt when I

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 3>interviewed Kristin Tapan and she said, you know, this season,

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 3>I feel like I'm a little bit of a dud.

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 3>And I said, no, Jenna, we want that, Like, go girl,

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 3>give us nothing. I literally said that to her in

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:33.920
<v Speaker 3>a group of people. I was like, yes, Queen.

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Like, don't deliver, Like, let's see what.

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 3>That energy is like, Like, we don't always need an alpha,

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 3>we need someone maybe to be a little tapped out.

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know. Maybe it's an under promise.

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm not quite sure. But unfortunately word has gotten out

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:56.840
<v Speaker 3>of a little unfortunate occurrence, which is that one of

0:33:56.880 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 3>the cast members fell ill on the red carpet. Jessel

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:07.160
<v Speaker 3>had flown I guess all night from Australia and hadn't

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:12.239
<v Speaker 3>slept and was very tired, and unfortunately was sick on

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 3>the red carpet and in the bathroom. Because I think

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:19.880
<v Speaker 3>her body like it wasn't being drunk, over served or anything.

0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:24.239
<v Speaker 3>I think she just had a little tummy situation. Or

0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 3>what else. And I just was like, oh my god,

0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:29.239
<v Speaker 3>and this is your introduction to the press, and like

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:32.280
<v Speaker 3>such a big night in your life. And she really

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 3>was sick. I'm gesticulating with my hands a little bit,

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:42.560
<v Speaker 3>like on the red carpet and they had to direct

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 3>people around it while they were cleaning up. I felt

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:49.239
<v Speaker 3>so badly for her, and I said to a friend

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:51.879
<v Speaker 3>who works at Bravo, I was like, take my electrolytes,

0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:54.360
<v Speaker 3>because I always have emergency gatory zero. I was like,

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 3>I have different flavors and she wants great if she

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 3>wants cherry, like I'm for our girl, Like make sure

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:04.880
<v Speaker 3>she is allectually. Yeah, poor poor jos. I think she

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:06.879
<v Speaker 3>left early understandably.

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:10.360
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, what the cast? Nice?

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I got to spend time with Brynn, who's essentially

0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:17.480
<v Speaker 3>America's sweetheart. Every the entirety of this used to be

0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 3>gay Twitter but is now gay threads. Every single person

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 3>I know is obsessed with Brinn and her tabline.

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 1>What is it?

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:27.799
<v Speaker 3>If you make me mad, I'll date your dad? Are

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 3>you kidding me? That's beyond iconic she was. And also

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:37.239
<v Speaker 3>they all looked so hot, like they were dressed to

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:42.000
<v Speaker 3>dress sparkles everywhere, I mean, and I spent a while

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:44.160
<v Speaker 3>talking to Tony Danza, who was.

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 2>There Diaz on TV Daddy from just like that, you

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 2>mean to tell me Shay das Dad Tony Danza.

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:57.800
<v Speaker 3>Tony Danza was there, Like why am I here? Tony

0:35:57.880 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Danza was there? Wait, You're gonna die. Carlos has literally

0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:03.480
<v Speaker 3>bent over with you, saying, Carlos, You're gonna die. Do

0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 3>you know who else was there? This is like so random,

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 3>but I was delighted. Eve Plum, who played Jam on

0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:14.720
<v Speaker 3>the original Brady Bunch, was there in like a triple

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:20.560
<v Speaker 3>strand of pearls and like a bouclet, like little jacket

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:22.440
<v Speaker 3>or something. It might not a bit bouclet, but it

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 3>was like tweet or something.

0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I tell me, Jam from the Brady Brunch

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:29.799
<v Speaker 2>was actually at the premiere of the reboot of New

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:31.120
<v Speaker 2>York City Housewives.

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 3>I was like, so lovely to meet you. Great American

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:38.400
<v Speaker 3>history and like how do we find ourselves here? Like

0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 3>how how did this happen? And I think she was

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:44.239
<v Speaker 3>with someone or so, I don't even remember, but it

0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 3>was it was wonderful and just like that, I mean,

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 3>so many cameos from it has to be an indicator

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:52.920
<v Speaker 3>of a good season band television history. There who's the boss,

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 3>Marsha Marshall.

0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:58.360
<v Speaker 2>Marsha Okay, I brought out all school versus news school,

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:04.480
<v Speaker 2>all school new school, That's what was happening. So well, girl, listen,

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:06.800
<v Speaker 2>I have to invite you back to recap one of

0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:10.279
<v Speaker 2>the episodes of the reboot of the Real Housewives of

0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:12.719
<v Speaker 2>New York City, just to see if we think is

0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:16.759
<v Speaker 2>living up to the standard of its predecessor. But before

0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 2>I let you go, please let the world know, my

0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 2>sweet pea, where I can find you, follow you and

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:24.680
<v Speaker 2>support your amazing, very successful podcast.

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 3>Well, first off, Carlos King, you are a recent co

0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:30.160
<v Speaker 3>host on Andy's Girls, and it was a literal bucket

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:33.279
<v Speaker 3>list moment for me because all for alcoholics know that

0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:36.359
<v Speaker 3>you have an important place in history. You're a part

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:39.879
<v Speaker 3>of the cannon, and you're also incredibly generous and supportive

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 3>as you know a podcaster in this universe. So I

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 3>can't thank you enough for having me on. I absolutely

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:52.399
<v Speaker 3>feeled over the invitation and truly there is no one

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:54.799
<v Speaker 3>I would rather deep dive with. And also, Pis, I

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:58.120
<v Speaker 3>have so many questions for you about Atlanta, So I would.

0:37:58.120 --> 0:37:59.399
<v Speaker 1>We got to do nothing of that.

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:00.839
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I.

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:05.759
<v Speaker 3>Really truly have about forty five questions for you about

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:08.360
<v Speaker 3>the future and your experience and your thoughts. So anyway,

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 3>all this to say, a total thrill to be in

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 3>the presence of the King and listeners Raindrops can listen

0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:19.839
<v Speaker 3>to Andy Scrolls, a semi weekly podcast deep diving all

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:23.400
<v Speaker 3>about the psychology behind the Housewives, which we consider a

0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:26.440
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0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:29.760
<v Speaker 3>whereever you listen to your favorite podcast, and I also

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:33.280
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0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:36.640
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<v Speaker 2>and yes Baby, my YouTube channel where you could get

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<v Speaker 2>all of my visuals baby my expressions. Yeah, and don't

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<v Speaker 2>forget tweet me your thoughts and hot takes about this

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<v Speaker 2>episode using the hashtag Reality with the King. Reality with

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<v Speaker 2>the King is a production of Kingdom Reign Entertainment. It

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<v Speaker 2>is produced by Sierra Spragley Rix An executive produced by

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<v Speaker 2>Me Carlos King, Kingdom Rain Entertainment, Baby