Speaker 1: Christmas with the Gorgas. This is a new show that
Speaker 1: I would like to produce. It's gonna be very short,
Speaker 1: but I don't know that it has to be short.
Speaker 1: But I'm interested in Christmas with the Gorgos. Let me
Speaker 1: explain why. Who are the Gorgos? Some of you may ask.
Speaker 1: The Gorgos are Melissa and Joe Gorga from the Real
Speaker 1: Housewives of New Jersey. She does look a little like Jyl,
Speaker 1: like not quite but I mean she doesn't, but I
Speaker 1: could see like the vibe, she does look like a
Speaker 1: pop star. Okay, So I go this past weekend to
Speaker 1: Elf the musical on Broadway on Sunday. Now, I guess
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about two things. One is Christmas with
Speaker 1: the Gorgos, but also Christmas with my daughter, which is
Speaker 1: really important because we make memories every and now she's
Speaker 1: a teen, and she's getting older, and she's getting influenced,
Speaker 1: and she's got her friends, and she's got her social life,
Speaker 1: and she's got a lot of homework, and she's got
Speaker 1: her sports and her outside of school sports clubs, and
Speaker 1: she's volunteering at school, and she's got a romantic life,
Speaker 1: and she's busy and so like there could be days
Speaker 1: where we're in the same house and and we don't
Speaker 1: even see each other. I mean, we see each other,
Speaker 1: but it's like, you know, the days of just like
Speaker 1: let's lay down and watch a movie on a school
Speaker 1: night are gone.
Speaker 2: Those days are over.
Speaker 1: She's either talking to her friends, doing homework, doing sports,
Speaker 1: doing skincare, showering, preparing for the next day, packing for
Speaker 1: something we're doing, planning it outfit for her homecoming, whatever.
Speaker 2: So one thing.
Speaker 1: Though, that I am really intentional about is holiday traditions.
Speaker 1: And we go to the Rockets the Radio City Christmas
Speaker 1: Show every year we never missed. We missed during the
Speaker 1: pandemic when it was closed.
Speaker 2: We go see the tree.
Speaker 1: We do some version of like a holiday very day
Speaker 1: out restaurant. There's one in Connecticut, but there also are
Speaker 1: several New York. So I am going to take her
Speaker 1: to one. There's a blist of them, and I don't
Speaker 1: really care which one. I just want to go to one,
Speaker 1: or maybe we'll go to many, but.
Speaker 2: I love doing that.
Speaker 1: And then in the Hamptons, which is a place that
Speaker 1: we sometimes spend some Christmas time, and this year, because
Speaker 1: of all her activities, we might not even get there.
Speaker 1: We were supposed to be in Florida for just this
Speaker 1: three day stint, and she said, Mom can be go
Speaker 1: to the Hamptons because she wants to feel that feeling,
Speaker 1: that consistent, lifelong feeling that she's had of us being
Speaker 1: out there, just the two of us with the tree
Speaker 1: and being like in fuzzy pajamas and going to TJ Max.
Speaker 1: And then we go to this one store where the
Speaker 1: ornaments are all overpriced but they're stunning, and like, we
Speaker 1: each pick an ornament that we think is good for
Speaker 1: each other, and then we pick ones for other people,
Speaker 1: and we buy some stuff we don't need, and we
Speaker 1: go to reef making and like, we do the whole
Speaker 1: thing because it's a time that can be sad and
Speaker 1: depressing and lonely.
Speaker 2: And I get that, and get that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm effectively an orphan and I don't have that,
Speaker 1: like that family dynamic that people have and crave, but
Speaker 1: we make it for ourselves and it's beautiful. And so
Speaker 1: we were going to go down to Florida for a
Speaker 1: longer time and we decided to just take the three
Speaker 1: days to do that. And so when I was invited
Speaker 1: to the Elf Musical, on Broadway. We used to go
Speaker 1: to The Grinch one. It wasn't Broadway. It was just
Speaker 1: like a show we used to do, The Bubble Show.
Speaker 1: I've always been really good at that, Like I see
Speaker 1: something and then we're going to do it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like I'm like, I see it online
Speaker 1: and I make sure that we go in the city.
Speaker 2: We're going to go do it.
Speaker 1: Or it's a viral ice cream coven in Klan Candy,
Speaker 1: or it's the Brian Park hot chocolate thing, like I'll
Speaker 1: try to check one box and we're going to be
Speaker 1: in the city and we have to get ice skating
Speaker 1: on the list. And so I'm into all of it.
Speaker 1: So this weekend we go to Elf the Musical on
Speaker 1: Sunday and we sit down in our seats and Melissa
Speaker 1: Gorga and Joe Gorga are right behind me.
Speaker 2: Now, there are some housewives.
Speaker 1: That I wouldn't want to be seated near, Like I
Speaker 1: wouldn't really care, but I just don't love. And I
Speaker 1: think that that should be actually told to us by
Speaker 1: the people ask inviting us, Like we should know that
Speaker 1: because what if it was somebody I didn't want to
Speaker 1: be seated next to. But Lo and behold, like sitting
Speaker 1: right in front of the Gorgos. I don't I think
Speaker 1: if I were like going to choose the Housewives couple
Speaker 1: of all of the franchises, that I would want to
Speaker 1: be seated in front of. So Joe and Melissa are
Speaker 1: sitting behind me with their two sons who look like
Speaker 1: they are like you know, they're like they look like
Speaker 1: they live at the gym that they were roommates with
Speaker 1: with Joey and the situation and Vinnie and like GTL
Speaker 1: bro like full on and they're good. They're handsome kids.
Speaker 1: They seem nice. They said hello, like, but they're not
Speaker 1: at ELF the musical on Sunday. I mean, Joe Gorga
Speaker 1: is at ELF the music on Sunday, and it's like
Speaker 1: so cute because it's so happy waife, happy life. They
Speaker 1: look like the Italian couple that should be on the
Speaker 1: tap of a wedding cake. Just like he's got to
Speaker 1: watch it's like blinged out, you know, she's got to
Speaker 1: watch that's blinged out a red sequence skirt. And he
Speaker 1: you know, he's got nice eyes, like he's got to sparkle.
Speaker 1: They both have very good skin. Like they were right
Speaker 1: behind me we were chatting and I was talking to
Speaker 1: their sons.
Speaker 2: I'm like, and I kept Brynn was dying.
Speaker 1: Brin was right in front of Joe, who kept telling Brindant,
Speaker 1: you gotta make money. Go what these kids? Now's the
Speaker 1: time she got to make money now, And I'm laughing.
Speaker 1: And Brinn does make money, Like she has actually made
Speaker 1: some money. I have her talking to a financial advisor
Speaker 1: because I've gotten some deals and they've asked if she
Speaker 1: wanted to be part of it, and so then she's
Speaker 1: made her own money. But anyway, he's like her, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you could be her manager. Like he's like literally telling
Speaker 1: her what to do. And for some reason, Brynn really
Speaker 1: gets a kick out of men that have big personalities.
Speaker 1: I have another friend, her husband John, and like, she's
Speaker 1: so nice and she has multiple daughters, and like, my
Speaker 1: daughter connects with the husband who's a fucking animal, and
Speaker 1: so like this is she's connecting with Joe Gorgo, which
Speaker 1: is just so funny, and she's like me, she has
Speaker 1: a warped sense of humor. So I keep bringing up
Speaker 1: the fact that like fucking Joe Gorga's at Elf the
Speaker 1: musical on Sunday, like what do you do? And he's like, well,
Speaker 1: this is what you do, you know, And then the
Speaker 1: sons are trying to watch football and laughing because she's like,
Speaker 1: I'm like what she brought a fourteen a seventeen year
Speaker 1: old Italian boy from New Jersey to see Elf the Musical,
Speaker 1: Like and Joe Gorgo, who's there, happy wife's, happy life,
Speaker 1: but like he's getting late, like these are anyway, and
Speaker 1: they're telling a story about one of their kids that
Speaker 1: night before I'm not going to share their own family
Speaker 1: parent stories. And we're laughing and like I'm just dying.
Speaker 1: I'm focusing and harping on the fact. I'm like, are
Speaker 1: you kidding me? Like they deserve anything they want, Like
Speaker 1: these two boys want to watch football and they're watching
Speaker 1: like Elf the Musical. What's really funny is that Melissa
Speaker 1: Gorga and I, both independently of one another, called the
Speaker 1: intermission halftime. We both said it step, but I just
Speaker 1: said it to Brinda that she said, I go. I
Speaker 1: just said to Brinda's halftime so anyway, bring out the
Speaker 1: biggest kick. I'm like, are you kidding me? That these
Speaker 1: kids are here right now? She was dying and even
Speaker 1: like it was hokey elf the movie's but this was
Speaker 1: like triple hope. We were dying, like it's just there's
Speaker 1: a time where this elf, he's such a good actor
Speaker 1: that like he was so sad at the end about
Speaker 1: the tragedy of there being no Christmas spirit that.
Speaker 2: Break Britain said out loud, she goes is he okay?
Speaker 2: It's like it was so insane.
Speaker 1: He was like we thought the actor was gonna like
Speaker 1: break character and have a nervous breakdown. Like it was
Speaker 1: almost too real. It was hysterical. So anyway, we were dying.
Speaker 1: I was so happy to see the Gorgas and I
Speaker 1: was just like, this is Christmas with the Gorgas. They
Speaker 1: ended up going out to Tow I think after and
Speaker 1: I wanted to go with them. I had my own plans.
Speaker 1: I wanted to just like hang out with them. I
Speaker 1: wanted to get like fucked up with Joe Melissa. That's
Speaker 1: what I really wanted to do. So anyway, I don't know,
Speaker 1: they have a sparkle that I like them. We talked
Speaker 1: a little bit about tea and show and family. I
Speaker 1: would never divulge anything they said to me or anyone else,
Speaker 1: but I just was I didn't know when they were filming.
Speaker 1: What's happening. I guess the whole thing is on pause.
Speaker 1: That's public information. I guess they're casting. The people on
Speaker 1: the streets say that they won't both be They wouldn't
Speaker 1: have Teresa and Melissa and Joe. I guess there's still
Speaker 1: this rift, which is crazy. By the way, it's totally
Speaker 1: crazy that this show, which is it is the show
Speaker 1: got in the way. And it was funny because I
Speaker 1: explained it to my daughter. I was like, they're on TV.
Speaker 1: They're on the Jersey Housewise and I was like, remember
Speaker 1: bringing you met Teresa backstage at Bravo whatever, watch Rappens Live.
Speaker 2: And I was like, so they don't speak.
Speaker 1: She's his sister and they don't speak, presumably because Melissa
Speaker 1: was like the new one on the show and it
Speaker 1: was kind of Teresa's show. And then the parents died,
Speaker 1: and when the parents die, that's the glue that doesn't
Speaker 1: hold everybody together. And Joe was like, spot on it,
Speaker 1: like the way I described it, Okay, no blame. I
Speaker 1: didn't say anything like that. I'm just telling I just
Speaker 1: was reporting the news, sports on weather. Then I was
Speaker 1: actually thinking, like, you know, when you're casting a show
Speaker 1: like you're casting the family. And actually in the moment,
Speaker 1: I was thinking like, wow, like you two are one,
Speaker 1: like you're casting Melissa and Joe, Like he's as entertaining
Speaker 1: as any housewif to me. And I don't know how
Speaker 1: much Teresa and her new guy because I haven't seen
Speaker 1: it in years. I mean I was sitting with the
Speaker 1: kid who's either the one who's fourteen or seventeen that
Speaker 1: like he got in the fight at the christening, like
Speaker 1: full fit.
Speaker 2: I mean he was like those fourteen years ago.
Speaker 1: So I guess that was the fourteen year old that
Speaker 1: Joe Gorgo got into a physical altercation at his son's christening.
Speaker 2: I was dying.
Speaker 1: So anyway, I was thinking, like he's as entertaining. And
Speaker 1: I don't know how much the kids are in the show,
Speaker 1: but I was thinking, it's Teresa's new guy entertaining. He
Speaker 1: looks entertaining. He seemed nice, you know, these two of them.
Speaker 1: Sure they were an opinion of him, but like when
Speaker 1: I met him, he seemed nice. But the internet has
Speaker 1: a lot to say about him too, and are her
Speaker 1: kids on the show. So if you had to cast
Speaker 1: only one of the two, I don't know what you
Speaker 1: would do between Teres, Teresa's old school, Melissa and Joe
Speaker 1: are one one dog like Bigian Smalls. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I enjoyed hanging out with and if it was
Speaker 1: Teresa and the other guy behind me, I would have
Speaker 1: been excited as well.
Speaker 2: But I was excited for these sale. It was great.
Speaker 1: So now it brings me to talk about it's kind
Speaker 1: of it can't go on. They'll have to mix in
Speaker 1: the old with the new, or just the old. But
Speaker 1: it's funny how things have to be timed right. I
Speaker 1: talked about the announcement when they announced the new cast
Speaker 1: and the legacy, and I thought it sounded boring. I
Speaker 1: didn't understand it. It was confusing. Evidently I was right, because
Speaker 1: the announcement was boring and the show is boring. It
Speaker 1: didn't make any sense. It was like just rints, like
Speaker 1: it never happened. All these women and now the new
Speaker 1: women just don't land. The new show is obviously terrible,
Speaker 1: because the whole entire internet has spoken about it. I
Speaker 1: have not seen it since the first one, but I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think there's some indication for a network
Speaker 1: that got really big for their bridges didn't treat their
Speaker 1: talent properly, got in a lot of trouble for many
Speaker 1: different things as that's a completely coarse correct and redirect
Speaker 1: and Shift has put all of its eggs in basically
Speaker 1: a housewives basket with the exception of anderprom rules and
Speaker 1: a little below deck and now is to make a
Speaker 1: real adjustment. But they definitely have never been a network
Speaker 1: that has been known for treating their talent properly. That
Speaker 1: is something that is widely known. It's a very big
Speaker 1: deal with culture at networks and some networks. Some networks
Speaker 1: don't pay well, but they treat their talent right. Some
Speaker 1: pay really well and treat their talent right. It's always
Speaker 1: a financial discussion, but there's such a haphazard way with
Speaker 1: which housewives are paid, not paid, treated favored in the
Speaker 1: good box in the bad box. You know me, I
Speaker 1: left after three seasons. I left, went back and then
Speaker 1: guess what I left again. I went and came back
Speaker 1: for like that connection with the audience, No, and I
Speaker 1: went back for the benjamins. I went back for the Benjamins,
Speaker 1: and I stayed for the Benjamins. And when I left
Speaker 1: it just my soul. I left the first time, because
Speaker 1: my soul felt crushed and toxic, and that was ballsy
Speaker 1: to leave a show a seasons when you're nobody, like,
Speaker 1: who the hell do I think I am. I always
Speaker 1: had faith in myself, but you have to make an
Speaker 1: exit to make an entrance. I did not intend to
Speaker 1: ever come back. I left, and I was convinced because
Speaker 1: I was made an offer I couldn't refuse. Monetarily, it
Speaker 1: was also a good ego flex. It made me the
Speaker 1: highest paid housewife in history, and no one ever knew,
Speaker 1: and no one to this day knows what I got paid,
Speaker 1: and that number was a baseline, so it kept growing
Speaker 1: and I stayed for all those years, and I remember
Speaker 1: talking to someone really high power up and power in
Speaker 1: the industry who basically said, there's gonna be a moment
Speaker 1: which we passed where it's gonna be like why is
Speaker 1: she here? Like with all that you have going on
Speaker 1: and everything you're it's gonna be weird.
Speaker 2: Why there.
Speaker 1: We had passed that point, and then I got to
Speaker 1: that point for myself because it was like even my
Speaker 1: business managers, You're like, this is months of your time
Speaker 1: for all this money, millions of dollars, And I was like,
Speaker 1: I got to get the fuck out of here, and
Speaker 1: it was the best decision I ever made, which is
Speaker 1: to tell you that you should always go with your soul,
Speaker 1: how your gut and your soul feels. Not you can't
Speaker 1: make decisions out of money or fear. You know your fomo.
Speaker 1: You've got to be truthful, and it's never failed me.
Speaker 1: First time I left, I was able to get millions
Speaker 1: of dollars as a result of leaving and coming back
Speaker 1: just a couple of years later, because they got to
Speaker 1: see my value. Second time. I you know, when I
Speaker 1: came back. The second time I left changed my entire life.
Speaker 1: I created an entire business which is three times as
Speaker 1: lucrative as what I was getting paid at my highest
Speaker 1: day on Housewives. So fear will hold you back, you jump.
Speaker 1: And what I was going to say also is that, like,
Speaker 1: I have a different relationship to it now. So when
Speaker 1: I'm seated in front of any housewife, for the most part,
Speaker 1: I am happy, I am positive, I smile. There's no competition,
Speaker 1: there's no angst. It's not me against them. I'm happy
Speaker 1: for them. I want them to thrive. I hope they
Speaker 1: pay Melissa Gory a ten million dollars a season. Same
Speaker 1: with Joe.
Speaker 2: I support the four women who can't stand me.
Speaker 1: From duringda you know, from during the Durna is fine
Speaker 1: with me, and Sonya loves me, and Luanne it is
Speaker 1: probably right down the middle, and so is uh Ramona.
Speaker 1: And it doesn't even matter because I can still acknowledge
Speaker 1: that they were good housewives and that they held the
Speaker 1: show on their back and would have stayed to the
Speaker 1: dying last day.
Speaker 2: That's the thing.
Speaker 1: About Luanne, Sonya, Ramona and Durnda. They would never have left.
Speaker 1: They've all said they would leave. Not one of those
Speaker 1: four would ever leave. Very few people and I've I
Speaker 1: know the list. It's like three people that have maybe
Speaker 1: three to four that I've ever really left the housewives.
Speaker 1: People say they've left, they haven't. They've been let go.
Speaker 1: And people have said to me personally, if I've ever fired,
Speaker 1: I'll just walk out gracefully, and none of them have
Speaker 1: done that either. They all really want back in because
Speaker 1: they just get that high and they get that relevance
Speaker 1: and they're getting older at the same time, and they
Speaker 1: just crave it because it's we lack purpose as we
Speaker 1: get older, and it's a it's a slice a humble pie,
Speaker 1: and I would be lying if I said I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't think it's a little like karmic. And I
Speaker 1: love when people say that back in my day it.
Speaker 2: Was, it was the best.
Speaker 1: But I also love when people don't even really remember
Speaker 1: me on it because it was so long ago, because
Speaker 1: that means the Rinse is complete. Like now I'm gonna
Speaker 1: point where I can talk about this because I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm so separated from it and people don't think
Speaker 1: about me connected to it anymore and the Rinse. So
Speaker 1: when I that's why when I I deleted the video.
Speaker 1: Sometimes my public is to be like, please, you can
Speaker 1: want to be a wave dumpster and like rinse it off,
Speaker 1: but you can't forget where you came from. And I
Speaker 1: also do have an opinion on it. You've got the
Speaker 1: balls to pick up there