1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: The game is over, New York JEP you play to 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: win the date. He's got as Jets, What's Down? Can't? 3 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Official New York Jets Podcast, a 4 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: Jets three sixty production. What's Top Everybody, Ethan Reemerg and 5 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: Eric Allen back in studio for another edition of the 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: Official Jets Podcast. On today's episode, we're gonna be going 7 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: down to Jacksonville via the pull line. We're gonna be 8 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: talking to Jaguar dot Com. John o'sher about what's going 9 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: on there in Florida. But right here up in the 10 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: tri stated A. First of all, the weather took a 11 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: little dip this weekend. It's pretty nice that typically happens screens, 12 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: the leaves start falling, start dancing a little bit, gets 13 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: a little cooler. But the Jets aren't going to be 14 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: cool this weekend because the forecast in Jacksonville calls for 15 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: temperatures in the high eighties with high humidity. If you 16 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: recall a couple of weeks ago when the Patriots went 17 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: down there, it looked like everyone on the field was boiling, 18 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: literally boiling, and so I wouldn't be surprised if the 19 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: weather were similar. I didn't see much of that ball 20 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: game because I believe we played. The Jets had their 21 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: home opener in Week two against the Miami Dolphins, and 22 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: that was the four o'clock game, so got home a 23 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: little bit late, and then uh, I saw Jacksonville take 24 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: care of business. Unfortunately for them, they looked like they 25 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: were gonna take an early season stranglehold on the n 26 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: f C self. But Tennessee's had their number of late 27 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk to John Hole sure about that, 28 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: because the Titans have won three consecutive games against the 29 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: Jaguars and that's a difficult team to go off against. 30 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: I mean, the Jaguars were a couple of plays away 31 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: from the Super Bowl. Funny thing about that game, and 32 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: we're not focusing on Tennessee here, but Blaine Gabber goes 33 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: out and I think Marcus Mariota is a better quarterback 34 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: despite dealing with an elbow injury, and he is a 35 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: knack for making plays on the ground and tight matchups. 36 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: So listen, the Jets are gonna be in for a 37 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: dog fight down there against the Jaguars team who brings 38 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: it defensively and on occasion they can get gone offensively. 39 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: And we saw that against the New England Patriots. Like 40 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: you mentioned before, Uh, I think it's a good little 41 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: mini buy for the Jets after that what occurred in Cleveland. 42 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: So they're able to get away from football for a 43 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: little bit and the coaches maybe had some time for 44 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: a self scout after three games in eleven days, where 45 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: the Jets did a lot of good things. Unfortunately they 46 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: didn't do enough. So they're one and two, and I 47 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: know they'd love to finish this first quarter of the 48 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: season with a two and two mark, which would be 49 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: all the more impressive considering this is their third road 50 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: game and this proceeds a three game homestand so this 51 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: is a big game for the Jets here earlier year. 52 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: We'll see what the status is of Jaguars running back 53 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: Leonard for Net, he missed the past two games with 54 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 1: a hamstring injury. Will speak to John Osher about that too, 55 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: because you know what, maybe it's a lingering thing, maybe 56 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: it's not, but I'm not used to these Jaguars. We're 57 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: gonna talk to Oshan about it. But the Keitlan Cole 58 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: and d D Westbrook. D D Westbrook, one of Baker 59 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: Mayfields in Oklahoma, did Westbrook had a tremendous collegiate career, 60 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: and this Jaguars offense in the passing game is again 61 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: a little different than what fans may remember because two 62 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: years ago Alan Robinson was the guy down there. He 63 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: is now a Chicago Bear. He missed last season with 64 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: an a C. L tare and then Mark UIs Lee, 65 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: who resigned with the Jags in the offseason. He also 66 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: got hurt no longer available. So this, this Jaguars receiving 67 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: corps is one that I think a lot of football 68 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: fans have questions about. And Keeling Cole came all in 69 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: real weight last year and he's a speed demon. But 70 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: then you say this is I don't know what his 71 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: forty times were, but you probably say the same thing 72 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: about d D the other guys. The other guy, uh, 73 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,119 Speaker 1: Blake Bordles one of his top targets here on this season. 74 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: A lot of people know him very well here in 75 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: Jets Nation. That would be Austin Sans. He also, ironically, 76 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: in Week one against the Giants, had another touchdown catch reversed, 77 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: So he's uh. He may not be on the Jets anymore, 78 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: but he as does not have some good luck at 79 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: MetLife the past couple seasons there in terms of reverse touchdowns, 80 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: I and I think, listen, I think Jacksonville had one 81 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: seven consecutive games at home before facing Tennessee. So, uh, 82 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: you know, they want to get the three and one, 83 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: and I think the Jets are gonna come out there 84 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: with the game offert and be ready. This is a 85 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: double chin strap game, all right, I think without further ado, 86 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: we talked about the Jaguars. Let's call in John Osher 87 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: of Jaguars dot Com. Alrighty eight's it's time to go 88 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: down to Jacksonville. Now. Welcoming in John Osher of Jaguars 89 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: dot Com. John, thanks so much for joining us today. 90 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: No problem, guys, No problem the ozone, I guess. So 91 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: after last season, you know, being so closed to a 92 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: Super Bowl birth is what's been the pulse in Jacksonville 93 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: so far entering the fourth week of the season. Well, 94 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: the pulse, uh, you know, all off season and really 95 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: the first two weeks of the season has been sort 96 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: of a feeling of, you know, they got close last year, 97 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: and then even beyond that, you know, sometimes you get 98 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: close and you feel like, okay, that was our shot. 99 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: We blew it. Now we got to move on and 100 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: try to rebuild or whatever. Well, the pulse of this 101 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: team is that pretty much everybody came back. They lost 102 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: a few pieces on defense, uhst Allen Robinson on offense, 103 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: wide receiver, but overall the feeling was, hey, this is 104 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: a young team. UH. The basically ten starters on defense return, 105 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: including Jalen Ramsey, Miles, Jack Clays, Campbell, Telvin Smith. All 106 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: the guys I just listened are pro bowlers UH, and 107 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: a lot of them are just coming into their prime. UM. 108 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: So there's really a feeling of, hey, as good as 109 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: we were last year, this is a team that ought 110 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: to be getting better and maybe just scratched the surface now. 111 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: And it was really feeling that after the win over 112 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: New England a couple of weeks back, UH came out 113 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: on Sunday, followed that up with the lost to Tennessee 114 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: where the offense was just really bad. So the overall 115 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: pulse maybe doesn't match this immediate after Matt pull switch. 116 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: As you guys know, being in New York, every loss 117 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: is the end of the world, right, What is the 118 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: magic formula? You've been talking about it all week down 119 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: there in Jacksonville. Now, what does the town of see 120 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: Titans have over the Jacksonville Jaguars. Now they've won three 121 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: consecutive games in a regular season, and can the Jets 122 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: take anything from their game plan? Well, you know, I don't. 123 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: I don't remember exactly what the Jets did defensively last 124 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: year against the Jaguars. That was Week four last year. 125 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: I haven't gone back and looked at it. But you 126 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: know the Jets did, if you remember, did a nice 127 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: job of limiting the Jaguars offense. Made that close game 128 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: and the Jets had a long run below pal I think, 129 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: you know, get along and they kind of kept it 130 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: in it and and I sort of swayed the game. 131 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: But it was it was a defensive game that the 132 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: Jets one because the field position at the end of 133 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: the game a huge punt to change the field position. 134 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: So we're talking about field position type games where you 135 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: shorten the game. Um, that's what the Titans always do 136 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: against the Jags. It's it's a field goal type of game. 137 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: It was only field goals the other day. Uh last 138 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: year they beat him fifteen to ten. They had another 139 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: game that was six three at halftime. So the Titans 140 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: are able to get the Jaguars in a situation where 141 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: they shortened games. They play kind of sloppy, they play 142 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: kind of messy. They get big first downs that you 143 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't expect with Mariota, you know, scrambling and running for 144 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: five yards on third and four and then all of 145 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: a sudden you're on the field two or three minutes more. Um. 146 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 1: I don't know that that's had. That's the way the 147 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: Jets want to play. It seems like with Donald that 148 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: they're looking toward a future where they're really efficient on offense. 149 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: But as of right now with the Jets kind of 150 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: trying to get going and being a good defensive team. Uh, 151 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: that's a way that you can hang with the Jaguars. Yeah, 152 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I remember last seasons the game 153 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: like it was yesterday, and the Jets really they pounded 154 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: it on the ground. It was big, big games from 155 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: not only Blah Paul, but Eli McGuire as well. Eli 156 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: won't be playing in this ball game. And it's a 157 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: different offensive system up front, the zone blocking scheme. Black 158 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: poles come out and he's averaging about four point five 159 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,239 Speaker 1: yards to carry and the Jets are getting the contributions 160 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: from the running backs with the big thing John Uh, 161 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: that they're stressing here up in New York with Sam 162 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: Donald his commitment to the run and also a balance 163 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: offensive attack. Yeah, it's Uh, it's a little bit of 164 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: a different feel for the Jaguars. And you mentioned last 165 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: year the Jets ran all over him and when the 166 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: when the Jags struggled early last year defensively, that's where 167 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: they struggled. They got run on. Uh, that's changed a 168 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 1: little bit since they went and got Marcel Darius, who 169 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: Jets fans know from his days with the Bills. Uh, 170 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: the Jaguars after mid season last year, we're a much 171 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: better running defense. And even the other day, Uh, Derrick 172 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: Hennry got a hundred and fifty on him. Um, but 173 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: it was on thirty five carries. It didn't feel like 174 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: a gash kind of game. Um. So the Jaguars at 175 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: least feel like they're a better overall defense, certainly than 176 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 1: the one that played the Jets last year in Week four. Um. So, 177 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: obviously the Jets are gonna want to run, but maybe 178 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: a different matchups than always last year. What's up with 179 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: Leonard Fournett because he heard his hamstring or tweaked it 180 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: in MetLife Stadium Ironically, against the Giants, and do you 181 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: think that one do you think that he's going to 182 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: be ready to play Sunday? I know it's very early 183 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: in the week as I record here on Monday. And 184 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: then the second part is is I know it's been 185 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: a small sample size this year, but how different is 186 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: this offense with four net playing in the game versus not. 187 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: It's it's tricky to try to project if you'll play Sunday. 188 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: I he had a much better chance I think of 189 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: playing this past Sunday than the first week he was out, 190 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: which makes sense with a hammy. Um, you know, if 191 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: I had to guess, I'd say he plays, because he 192 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: said he was so much further ahead than where he was. 193 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: But you know, this is not a team that's very 194 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: forthcoming in terms of degree of injury on that front, 195 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: which you know most NFL teams aren't. But it's it's 196 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: it's kind of have to get a read on it. 197 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: I would guess he plays, but I sure wouldn't. It 198 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't bet anything important on it and follow me. Um, 199 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: it's a it's a different offense in this sense. They 200 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: they have had stretches where they're better offensively when he's 201 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: not in the game. It's kind of a weird thing, 202 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: but they open up the offense a little more. They 203 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: throw effectively. But for the most part, they're a better 204 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: offense when he's in the game because he gives them 205 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: such a threat of running that teams really have to 206 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: defend it. When he's not in the game, you don't 207 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: feel as much of a sense of urgency as a 208 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: defense to make sure you get him stopped. Uh, And 209 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: therefore you know you're not His apter to pack the 210 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage makes it a little tougher on the 211 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: passing game. So he's really the the offense's identity. Even 212 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: on games where he doesn't run for a hundred yards. Uh. 213 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: They like to get physical. They like to run. You know, 214 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: I'd like to have him run you over. It gets 215 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: their videos fired up. Uh. He's sort of a calling 216 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: card for him, if you will. And it does change 217 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: when he's not in the game. And the Jets twenty 218 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: overtime victory over the Jags last year. I'm looking at 219 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: four nuts stats right now, and I didn't realize it 220 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: actually during that Sunday action, But man, what a workload. 221 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: Carries eighty six yards, four receptions, fifty nine yards and 222 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: receiving touchdown. So uh, he was very productive. Uh last 223 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: fall against the Green and White. What have you seen 224 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: from Blake Bortles here early this season? I think it's 225 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: gonna help the Jets that they've faced a couple of 226 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: uh quarterbacks who can use their legs here early on 227 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: in the season, Ryan tanney Hill the r POS with 228 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: the Dolphins, and to Rod Taylor. I faced him for 229 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: a half. Bortles is another guy who can use his legs. 230 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: But he had a coming out party against the Patriots, 231 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: so I think he threw for over three hundred yards 232 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: and then uh, the whole offense wasn't able to get 233 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: gone against Tennessee. It's been kind of up and down. 234 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: Probably the best way to describe Bortles is, uh, for 235 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: for the first three years of his career, everything around 236 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: him and him it was all so bad that he 237 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: really got sort of a bad rap as just being awful. 238 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: I mean, there were people who just wrote him off 239 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: and said, this guy is one of the worst quarterbacks 240 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Well, he's not that. He's a quarterback 241 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 1: who can beat you if you're covering guys. Man, if 242 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: if he's got guys that when he can hit him. 243 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: I don't think he's one of the best ten quarterbacks 244 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL, but he is a guy who is 245 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: very savvy, very tough. This team believes in him, and 246 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: i've primarily he's been really good for the last i'd say, 247 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty games at if he hits a patch of adversity. 248 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: I mean, if he has a bad game like he 249 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: did yesterday, or if he has a bad throw and interception, 250 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: he's been exceptionally good at putting it away and moving on. 251 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: Early in his career, a bad play, a bad game, 252 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: things would sort of, you know, sort of start to snowball. 253 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if he would see the shoulders dropped, 254 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: but there was just sort of a collective Okay, here 255 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: we go again. Well, now he's much better at if 256 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: something goes bad, he responds to it. They tend to 257 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: have a good drive after he throws an interception, and 258 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: that's really what they ask of him is, hey, you're 259 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: gonna make mistakes. Who know it's not gonna be perfect, 260 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: but bounced back. So that's where he's improved, and it's 261 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: one reason he got to the a C Championship Game 262 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: last year. He just doesn't concern himself with the criticism, 263 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: doesn't really worry if there's a bad play. Uh. He 264 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: knows the team has confidence in him. So he's not 265 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: turning around and looking over his shoulder trying to lose 266 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: his job every week. Flipping sides of the ball. Here 267 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: to the defensive side is from New York. When you 268 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: think about the Jaguars, you say, oh my god, that's 269 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: one of the best defenses in the league. When you 270 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: look at the front seven and then A J. Bouyer 271 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: and Jalen Ramsey. And so what I want to know 272 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: is from your perspective, because you're very much closer to 273 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: the team than we are, is what is the strength 274 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: of this defense? And then secondly is if you're an offense, 275 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: let's say the Jets this week, is how do you 276 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: even go about attacking a defense like the Jaguars. Well, 277 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: it's tough. And I'll give you a stat that I 278 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: just I just sort of dug up in the last Uh. 279 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: You know, I was doing the game on a Sunday night. 280 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: They really given up one touchdown this year, uh, when 281 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: they've had a lead of less than ten points, And 282 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: that was when s Kwan Barkley went I think for 283 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: sixty seven yards and the opener, they had the Patriots 284 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: down twenty one three before they have a touchdown, and 285 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: they didn't give up one against the Titans. Even though 286 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: they lost their game, the defense was very strong, had 287 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: a couple of drives late where they gift some runs 288 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: they didn't want to. Um. It's probably like any defense, 289 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: it's really really good. If you can run on them, 290 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: then it forces them to do things they don't want 291 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: to do. They have to commit a little more to it, 292 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: and then you open yourself up on the back end. 293 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: Which is a little bit of a cliche. It's not 294 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: really detailed towards this defense, but that's how you get 295 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: this defense. If you can run on them, then they 296 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: have to single cover a little bit or they have 297 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: to do things in the back. Seven. They don't like 298 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: to answer the question of why they're good. Uh, they 299 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: rushed the past, serve very very consistently, and they tend 300 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: to get the ball out when they had the quarterback. 301 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: And then of course, like you said, they've got two 302 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: cornerbacks who are as good as there is. And the 303 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 1: safety is Bury Church and to Seawn Gibson are very underrated. 304 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: They're both veterans, and probably the thing that makes them 305 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: really unique beyond those two levels of the defense, Miles 306 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: jack and Telvin Smith, who are their main linebackers. They're 307 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: the guys who play all three downs. Might be the 308 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 1: fastest due in the league. So they're tough to get 309 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: outside on if if you're trying to run or or 310 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: you know, hit plays in the short passing game and 311 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: the running backs they tend to cut that off pretty quickly. 312 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 1: Are they creating a home field advantage down there? I 313 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: know this it comes right after losing the Tennessee at home, 314 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: but prior to that game, I believe it was seven 315 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: in a row. Or do you think that's more just 316 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: of the reasoning there is Jacksonville is just a good team. 317 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter where they play well. Uh, probably the 318 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 1: best way I answered this for a long time. You know, 319 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: I got this team back in the nineties when it 320 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: was a terrific home field advantage. Well, it was not 321 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: nearly as good a franchise for about fifteen years, and 322 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: for about five or six years before last year, they 323 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: were bad every year, so the home field advantage went away. 324 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: Uh really because the team hadn't earned it. About midway 325 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: through last season you really saw it come back. Um 326 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: and in the last three or four games. The last 327 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: season Buffalo playoff game, there was an afternoon game against 328 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: Seattle where to me, it felt once again like it 329 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: had felt in the nineties when they had Fred Taylor 330 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: and Tony Besselli and guys like that, they're going to 331 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: the playoffs every year. You were starting to get that 332 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: feeling back. To answer your question, when this team is good, 333 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: this is a very, very tough place to play, and 334 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: it has felt like that the last two weeks. Now 335 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: one factor. Yesterday it was so unbelievably hot that once 336 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 1: you hit the third quarter, I think the fans, I 337 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: think the heat was just as often happens in Florida 338 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,719 Speaker 1: sometimes you just had a heat factor where maybe not 339 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: quite the advantage that had been in a late afternoon 340 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 1: game the week before. But it's uh, as somebody who 341 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: covered this team early on, it's been impressive to see 342 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: that home field advantage come back. John on the defensive 343 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: side of the ball really quickly. Here is since Aaron 344 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: Colvin has departed in the offseason, who's stepped up as 345 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: that slot third corner and how has he been performing well? 346 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: D J. Hayden was the slot um who was the 347 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: former first round pick by the Raiders and then played 348 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: a year with the Lions. They signed him as a 349 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: free agent to replace Colvin. He played very well at 350 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: that spot um for the first two weeks. I had 351 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: a toe injury last Friday. Didn't play on Sunday against 352 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: the Titans. He had been playing very very well. Uh. 353 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: Tyler Patman played in this place the other day. I 354 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: hadn't really watched specifically on how he played, but they've 355 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: liked him for a while. Uh, didn't seem to hurt 356 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: them because the Titans really didn't. Titans weren't able to 357 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: throw because Marriot's elbow was still bothering him. So probably 358 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: a little bit of an incomplete on Tyler Patman. Uh, 359 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: And it'll be something to watch this week. Does d J. 360 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: Hayden come back and play because he had replaced Colvin? 361 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: I think much better than people thought he would now. Finally, John, 362 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: how's Austin some Ferrian Jenkins doing down there? He's uh, 363 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: you know, I've gotten to know him a little bit, 364 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: as you guys know, a great guy. He's added a 365 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: little something to their their passing game last year they 366 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: had a guy named Mercedes Lewis who had been here forever. 367 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: Mercedes is a frontline run blocker, not a great pass blocker. 368 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I had a great pass catcher at the 369 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: stage of his career. So Safari and Jenkins caught a 370 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: touchdown against New England, had one called back against the Giants. 371 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: They had hoped he'd out a wrinkle to the passing game, 372 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: and you know, through three games he's getting incomplete. So far, 373 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: so good. All right, well, John, thank you very much 374 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: for joining us here on the Official Judge Podcast, and 375 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: we'll see a Sunday at salute. Looks forward to you guys. 376 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: Great stuff from the O Zone down in Jacksonville. Long 377 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: story short, Yeah, I think a lot of fans think 378 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: this too. Is that it's gonna be a tough, tough 379 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: game for the Jets, especially facing Jacksonville defense that's widely 380 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: regarded as probably top three in the NFL. It's a 381 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: winnable game, though, because the Tennessee I went down to 382 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: Jacksonville last week and they want a slug fest, and 383 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: I think the Jets do have an ability to get 384 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: in the slug fest with him. I think it's gonna 385 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: be difficult at times for Jacksonville to move the ball 386 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: on the Jets defense. Uh. Conversely, we know it's gonna 387 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: be an ugly game at times for the Jets offense 388 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: because you're going against a tremendous defense who has players 389 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: at all three levels. With that being said, I like, uh, 390 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: the scrambled ability and uh and Sam Donald in this 391 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: kind of situation and maybe he can get some your 392 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: it's on the ground here and Uh, when you look 393 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: at that game last week, what did Tennessee do? They 394 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: played great defense and they stayed in it. So that's 395 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: what the Jets have to do. You have to make 396 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: this a game where it's in the third or fourth 397 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: quarter it's really tight, and then make the plays down 398 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: the stretch. And I think they have the ability to 399 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: do that. Bottom line is, yes, Jacksonville is one of 400 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: the FC's top teams, but the Jets certainly have a 401 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: shot and winning this ball game. I thought that the 402 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: stat that Osier talked about was pretty staggering when he 403 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: said that the Jaguars have only let up one touchdown 404 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: when they were within ten points of their opponent. I 405 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: thought that that's a very impressive stat And I know 406 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: that you the Jets are very capable of being involved 407 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: in a slug fest. But just to inform fans of 408 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: what a slug fest is, where do you look to 409 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: like are you talking you just talking about like defensive 410 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: game and we're talking about a physical game with the 411 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: run with the run game? What what exactly is the 412 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: slug fest? And offensively, how did the Jets go about 413 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: attacking this Jaguar defense scienticipated as being a low scoring game. 414 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: I don't think either one of these teams are going 415 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: to get in the thirties because they get in the twenties. Yes, Um, 416 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 1: what I mean by slug fest is again, Uh, the 417 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: Jets this year defensively have not given up a ton 418 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: of points. We think about Detroit seventeen and the defense 419 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: actually got on the scoreboard in that ball game at 420 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: home against Miami. They give up twenty points, but fourteen 421 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 1: of those points came off of turnovers inside while not 422 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: inside that for the first touchdown there was inside the 423 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: twenty yard line where Miami benefited from and then Cleveland 424 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: scored twenty one points. So the Jets right now, in 425 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: terms of giving up points, they're not giving up a ton. 426 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: They're not giving up a ton of yards no matter 427 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: what Baker Mayfield did in the second half last week, 428 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: and give him a lot of credit for coming out 429 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: and giving the Browns that spark. Browns didn't have a 430 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 1: ton of yards against the Jets, and uh, Jacksonville offensively 431 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: has scuffled at times. Is it going to be different 432 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: if Leonard Fournett is in the ball game, No doubt 433 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: about it. He is their workhorses. Oshan said, he is 434 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: their guy. Interesting though, Greens is that ocean commented on it. 435 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: Sometimes their offense looks a little smoother withour fornet in 436 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: the ball game, but then you go to the other 437 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: side of the ball. The Jets scored a lot of 438 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 1: points in Detroit, but complimentary football all three phases scoring 439 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: Against Miami, Sam Donald throws for three on the thirty 440 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 1: four yards, but they're limited to twelve points. And then 441 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: against the Browns points were hard to come by. I 442 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: think when I say a slug fast is this is 443 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: going to be a low scoring game unless teams turn 444 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: over the football deep inside their territory. I think the 445 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: Jets defense is going to be a problem for the 446 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: Jaguars offense. Sam Donald, I anticipate he'll play better than 447 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: he did Thursday night in Cleveland, just because he'll have 448 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: more preparation. This is his first true NFL week in 449 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: his career. You think about it, he played Monday night football. 450 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: Then he comes back and it's a short week against 451 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: Miami and it's a really short week against Cleveland. Well, 452 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: now this guy has ten days to prepare for the 453 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: Shacksonville defense. I think he'll be better this week. What 454 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: the Jets have to do is probably not offensive banance. 455 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: Chad Pennington told me, uh this week on Jets Flight Plant, 456 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: which airs Sunday mornings on CBS, told me that, Jets, 457 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: we're doing a good line of scrimmage in the first 458 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: half against Cleveland. That you didn't see that as much. 459 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: Cleveland took control of the line of scrimmage against the Jets. 460 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: It's going to be tough to win the battle. Constantly 461 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 1: lying a scrimmage against Jacks film, that's just not gonna happen. 462 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: So I anticipated slutfest. I agree with that because whether 463 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: or not for Net plays, Uh, let's assume just let's assume, yeah, 464 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: let's assume he is. If he is playing, and you 465 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,479 Speaker 1: would imagine your attention goes to Leonard for net in 466 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: the running game, so then all you know, you stack 467 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: the box whatever it maybe, Well, the Jaguars receivers are 468 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: much different than what the Jets faced last year. And 469 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: last year was Mark Easley was the primary guy because 470 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 1: Allen Robinson already had hurt his knee. This year, Marquis 471 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: Lee's hurt his knee earlier this season and he's done 472 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: for the year, so your primary option is Keeling Cole 473 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: and and and one thing you wrote about it too, 474 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: but we gotta remember Austin Seferian Jake. Yes, absolutely, but 475 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: it's a very different look. And I think that last 476 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: year's receiving corps might have been better. I'm not I'm 477 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: not sure. Um well there, whether it's last year or 478 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: this year. They don't go by Blake Borls. I think 479 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: that he is a guy that they're hoping that he 480 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: doesn't lose a game, but you never put on the 481 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: shoulders that he has to win. The game against New 482 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: England were like always saying John Osher was saying that 483 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: they decided they're gonna play a lot of man and 484 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: the Patriots defensive backs, frankly have struggled early in the season. 485 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: If anybody watched that game, against Detroit Lions Sunday night. 486 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: That defense is trying to find themselves. The Jets secondary, 487 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 1: while they encountered some problems in the second half, I 488 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: don't think they're trying. They're they're having issues right now. 489 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: I think, in fact, I anticipate they're gonna get better 490 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: and better. Well. I think last year what the Jets 491 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 1: did so well against the Jaguars is that I remember 492 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: at the time Coney eally talked about it. He actually 493 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: picked off Blake Bortles last year. But I remember him 494 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: saying that, and then it wasn't just him, It was 495 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 1: a large chunk of the defense. Is what they did 496 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: so well was pinned the Jaguars deep after first and 497 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: second out, so it's third and long, and then you 498 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: rushed the passer heavily and you make Blake Bortles throw 499 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: to get to move the chain. So I thought the 500 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,719 Speaker 1: last year the Jets had a very good job of that, 501 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: and why had good numbers last year he had good 502 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: numbers receiving two He actually probably screen he probably total 503 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: what near Yeah, he was a very effective player for 504 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: the Jaguars last year against the Jets, So it would 505 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: be a big boost if he's in. But if he's 506 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: not in, like we've talked about before, is t J. 507 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: Elden is not some slouch. He's a very talented running 508 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: back and he's a dual threat. Also, he can run, 509 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: he can catch. It'll be interesting for me to see 510 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: what happens how the Jets respond long week after three 511 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: games in eleven days, and frankly, I think that this 512 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: team is ready for a slug faster, another dog fight, 513 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: And I'm really excited to see what happens because I 514 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: think that the that the Jets match up pretty well 515 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: against the Jaguars. Yeah, listen, we don't know if they're 516 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: gonna win or lose, but it would be really something 517 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: if they wanted to get to two and two and 518 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: then you have a three game homestand coming up, you 519 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: got Denver coming in, followed by Indianapolis and Minnesota. You'd 520 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: like where you're at if you're two and two after 521 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: four games. The thing that stood out to me about 522 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: last year's game looking back, these two teams played each 523 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: other in Week four as well, which I didn't know 524 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: before I went back and looked again. Obviously, the Jets 525 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: won three twenty in overtime, but they pounded the Rocky 526 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: two what thirty six yards Russia. It was a two 527 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: hundred fifty six years Russia. It would be tough to 528 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: duplicate that kind of offer the Jets. I mean, Bile 529 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: Powell had a seventy five yard score. Eli McGuire had 530 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: a sixty nine yard score. I mean that there were 531 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: some some splash plays, but the Jets were consistent on 532 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: the ground. I mean that those two played obviously stick out, 533 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: but throughout the game the Jets were moving. And what 534 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: Oshan said is that after the Jags got Marcel Darius 535 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: midway through the season, the run defense got a little better. 536 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: So it's different. It's a different look up front, and 537 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: that's in that sense for that. Saxonville, about this number 538 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: for you, seven sacks through three games, eight sacks through 539 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: three Here you go. Uh No, listen, Saxonville. Comma New York, 540 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: Calvin Beacham said it this week, and you wrote about 541 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: a green set. We know we have to run the football. 542 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: They know we have to run the football. So listen, 543 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: it's sometimes it's not. Sometimes you're gonna get two yards, 544 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: sometimes you get in one yard, but you gotta keep 545 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: on pounding the rock and that's what the Jets are 546 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: gonna do this week. I think Bla Paul has looked 547 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: phenomenal early in the season. I think he's average about 548 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: four and a half yards to carry. Isaach Royle has 549 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: been in that zone four times as well. Uh. The 550 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: other thing that I wrote about my storylines piece looking 551 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: ahead to this matchup is which one of these teams 552 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: is going to be able to take a shot down 553 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: the field and complete it and pick up some chunkyards 554 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 1: Because if you're playing a game and a phone booth, 555 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: at times, you're gonna need a chunk play, probably in 556 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: the passing game, and the Jets weren't able to get 557 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: that going against the Cleveland Browns. Uh, you know, relying mostly. 558 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: The most successful passed against the Browns screens wide receiver 559 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: screens to Quincy and noon law. Robby Anderson had a 560 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: long touchdown in Week one against Detroit, and then when 561 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: you look at Jacksonville. Oshan wrote about that this week 562 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: that Tennessee Dared Bortles beat us down the field, he 563 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: didn't take his shots down the field. So we'll see 564 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: what happens there. Is very interesting matchup wise. The other 565 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: think a lot of people say, oh, the Jaguars were 566 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: a game away from the Super Bowl last year, and 567 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: the Jets were five five and eleven and had the 568 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: sixth overall pack and then time before the trade out. 569 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that I think the external narrative is 570 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: not representative of how close of the game this will be. 571 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: It will be close if the Jets continue to play 572 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: sound on special team. So far, you gotta be encouraged 573 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: by Andre Roberts as you returned, man, he's making Hay 574 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: his apartment return especially not too many attempts. And as 575 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: far as the kick returns concerned, Jason Myers continues to 576 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: boot the yep. It continues to boot the ball out 577 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: of that and zone. You want your coverage team to 578 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: spin uh sound as ever, and you can't turn it over. 579 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: The second interception of Donald in Cleveland through a throat away, Yeah, 580 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: no time outs left or that the clock was turning 581 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: counting down. You had to get the ball up the field. 582 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: The first one is the one that he would want 583 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: to have back. He's Jermaine Curse is open, his eyes 584 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: are on him, and it's split second he hesitates, then 585 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: the rush comes to him and he tried going back 586 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: to him there's Joe Schobert, and there's your ball game. 587 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: I can't do that this week. This Sunday, one o'clock, 588 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: Jets Jacks in Jacksonville pre Game Central. That's a pregame show. 589 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: You're gonna want to watch it. E A. Anthony beck 590 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: is gonna be making a guest appearance along with laverneus Cole. 591 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: So will the e A and Anthony becked and the 592 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: Laverne calls are gonna hop on Jets Jacks. What more 593 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: could you ask for? That's eleven o'clock Sunday morning. Be 594 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: sure to lock in and then we'll be back next week.