Speaker 1: Forever.
Speaker 2: When I tell you me and Marie Hoggart.
Speaker 1: Hoggart Sidney, turn your microphone down please for a little bit, sorry,
Speaker 1: or slide back from me?
Speaker 2: No? No, how about now? How about now? Is this good?
Speaker 2: Is this better? Okay? Great? All right?
Speaker 1: Now tell the people what's going on?
Speaker 3: Okay, So you know, me and Marie are a little
Speaker 3: books right now, so you know thet put the hair
Speaker 3: behind the ear just a little bit. We're set until
Speaker 3: six a m.
Speaker 1: Honey, playing chic zombies. Okay, first of all, they put
Speaker 1: all this nasty I got you know, we got there.
Speaker 1: Face was made up because you can't trust these makeup artists.
Speaker 1: But also we were coming from shows, so we show
Speaker 1: up looking cute, looking good, smelling good, and they took
Speaker 1: all that makeup off except for my cat, and then
Speaker 1: they turned us into just gross zombies. And Sydney was
Speaker 1: living her very best life. I don't know what it
Speaker 1: is about my good sister, but anytime you could put
Speaker 1: makeup on her to make her look ugly, she thrives.
Speaker 2: Y'all.
Speaker 1: Remember the Halloween costumes?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, we will never get over me. And
Speaker 3: just being who was I?
Speaker 2: Who was? I?
Speaker 1: Again?
Speaker 2: I forgot who? Were you trying to be Roger Klotts.
Speaker 3: I was Roger Klotz for Halloween in like twenty eighteen,
Speaker 3: and Roger you were Roger Knots.
Speaker 2: I was Roger Notts. I thought I was green. I
Speaker 2: was not. I was like a disgusting olive.
Speaker 1: It was not good anyway, since the people know, they
Speaker 1: love it, they see it. But so we played Zombies
Speaker 1: last night, and you know, Sidney, the wig looks fantastic
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 3: But oh, this is a new one, Honey. That was
Speaker 3: the set wig. And now the wig that was also
Speaker 3: my real wig, which is the Marianne Maryanne Hay is
Speaker 3: gonna be furious with me because.
Speaker 1: Yesdney, of all the weeks to select to where you
Speaker 1: put the good wig on, Like you don't have like
Speaker 1: a gym wig you could thrown on.
Speaker 2: No, I don't go to the gym. Friend, what are
Speaker 2: you talking about? I hop in the uber, I get
Speaker 2: out the uber.
Speaker 1: Yes, but's just the gym wig at my house. Is
Speaker 1: any wig that's stuck in the ponytail position, that's the
Speaker 1: gym wig.
Speaker 2: I don't do. I don't do ponytails.
Speaker 1: Not to hold my ponytail, I don't.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I don't do that.
Speaker 3: But AnyWho, she she curled it and everything for it
Speaker 3: to just to get fucked up anyway.
Speaker 2: So she's gonna be annoyed. But it's fine. I paid
Speaker 2: her and she's.
Speaker 1: Not gonna be annoyed because you keep paying her to
Speaker 1: do the wig. So yes, she's gonna be.
Speaker 2: Like, well, that's why.
Speaker 3: If there's any networks listening, I still need to continuing.
Speaker 3: I need to continue to get booked so I can
Speaker 3: pay for this hair. I need a hair budget. It's imperative.
Speaker 1: It sounds like you already have a hair budget. Sis,
Speaker 1: what's the hair budget? What's the weak budget giving? Beyonce Junior,
Speaker 1: what's it given?
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, Kelly Rowland adjacent.
Speaker 1: Kelly, okay girl, I'm the week budget is Michelle Jesus
Speaker 1: says yes, No, you will not say no.
Speaker 3: That's not not in front of our new guests today. No,
Speaker 3: You're not doing that to.
Speaker 1: Me, Kelly. Have you seen the Kelly Calandria wigs man?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so I'm saying from certain angles and perfect lighting, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I will think you're.
Speaker 1: Spending the same amount of money on your wigs that
Speaker 1: Kelly is spending on hers. That's what I'm asking you.
Speaker 1: That's the question.
Speaker 3: You don't even know. Kelly could be frugal and she
Speaker 3: could be renting hers.
Speaker 1: Since your week budget giving Lattavia. That's what.
Speaker 2: Uh you know, I'll take that. That's fine. You know.
Speaker 3: I'm humbled. But it will get to Kelly Rowland soon.
Speaker 3: I'm opening by twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: Okay, wow, okay, put it on the vision board.
Speaker 2: I'm putting on the vision board. So AnyWho.
Speaker 3: We were there until six o'clock in the morning, very
Speaker 3: very tired, but I wanted to have blood all over me.
Speaker 3: I wanted to really get into it. And Marie was like,
Speaker 3: I'm a vegan zombie. I don't eat nobody. I don't
Speaker 3: eat people.
Speaker 1: Put this black ass blood in my mouth. And I
Speaker 1: was like, what is that? Is it glue and free?
Speaker 1: And Sidney was like more but just believe like it
Speaker 1: was wild. At one point she threw the man at
Speaker 1: the window so that we weren't even recording it.
Speaker 2: She does.
Speaker 1: Anyway, it's gonna be on HBO. It was an episode
Speaker 1: of Search Party, so y'all can look for us for
Speaker 1: the finale of the of the series.
Speaker 2: Wait, can we say that though? Can we say that.
Speaker 2: I just said it, Yeah, but I don't think we
Speaker 2: can say that though.
Speaker 1: Why can't we say that?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: What's the ladgic here?
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe an nda? Well, no, they didn't
Speaker 2: even did you sign something?
Speaker 1: Since? No?
Speaker 2: I didn't. Okay, Okay, it's in keep it.
Speaker 4: It will keep it in Sydney.
Speaker 1: Okay, Sidney we got. I got home at seven. I
Speaker 1: went to bed at seven o'clock this morning. I've slept
Speaker 1: for I don't know five hours. Where's this energy coming
Speaker 1: from that you're shouting into the mic? What time did
Speaker 1: you go to sleep?
Speaker 2: Uh? No, I went to bed, same time around you.
Speaker 3: But I just know that I'm working on myself because
Speaker 3: I know that I can be very uh, very lax
Speaker 3: and very much like always in a nap state, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like I'm very like, what's drowsy? Drowsy?
Speaker 3: What's the seven Dwarves? It's drowsy?
Speaker 1: Was there a drowsy Dwarfs?
Speaker 2: No, there's no, there's.
Speaker 1: Not drowsy not can't operate machinery?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's me. I'm drowsy. I'm the drowsy Dwarf.
Speaker 3: So I'm working on giving more energy and just being
Speaker 3: you know, present, and I'm loving this today.
Speaker 2: This feels good.
Speaker 1: Okay, sirs, I love that for you. I love that
Speaker 1: you're working on you. We I have a guest this week.
Speaker 1: We do so thank you for bringing that energy for
Speaker 1: the both of us. Because who let me just drink
Speaker 1: my coconut water not from concentrate.
Speaker 3: Also, you know, I'm coming down from a really big high.
Speaker 3: You know, Jojo was in town in the building. The
Speaker 3: girlfriend was out and about. I was running her around,
Speaker 3: you know, just lunches, dinners.
Speaker 2: I want her to hang. I was paying for lunch.
Speaker 2: That's how happy I was. I paid. We went to lunch, Marie,
Speaker 2: I paid for it. I went to lunch.
Speaker 1: I feel like this. Oh you were paying for lunch
Speaker 1: for everybody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, that's another reason if the networks are listening,
Speaker 3: I need a lunch budget.
Speaker 1: So I need to keep working. So please book me
Speaker 1: as think for these budgets that you already have the
Speaker 1: person the people who should be asking for a lunch budget,
Speaker 1: other people who ain't playing.
Speaker 2: For lunch running out.
Speaker 1: The people are like, did you already add the gratuity?
Speaker 1: Like the people who are struggling to pay for lunch
Speaker 1: are the ones who need the lunch budget, ma'am.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. I remember when I was a waitress
Speaker 2: in this big ass group. It was like a fifteen
Speaker 2: people and.
Speaker 3: They were like, we didn't have graduity and I was like,
Speaker 3: that's it's there's there's no d but not griduity. Like,
Speaker 3: we're not paying for the graduity. And we were like,
Speaker 3: but you absolutely are. You are playing You're paying for that.
Speaker 1: Fifteen people were fighting about leaving a tip graduity.
Speaker 3: They were like, what's what's the graduity? It's like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, I said, I don't know these people that
Speaker 3: I don't know them.
Speaker 2: I think they were from Detroit.
Speaker 1: Oh, so the story you could have said that they
Speaker 1: were from anywhere. You could have said they were from Norway.
Speaker 1: You could have said it was it was fifteen cheap blonde.
Speaker 2: No it was it was it was beige people from Detroit.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, thank you, thank you for fixing it.
Speaker 2: Uh Marie, are we ready to bring in? Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we're ready to start this episode so
Speaker 1: I can go back and lay down. Yeah, absolutely, let's
Speaker 1: let's do it.
Speaker 3: Zombie number one chic Zombie number one to you, Well, obviously,
Speaker 3: you know we have a lot of our friends on
Speaker 3: the pod. But today today we have a new bee
Speaker 3: Fresh Fresh fresh meat to expert.
Speaker 2: We're popping.
Speaker 3: We're popping his unofficial expert, Cherry. You could have seen
Speaker 3: him on Ellen. Okay, I mean so many followers. He's
Speaker 3: a he's a blue checked verified bitch.
Speaker 1: We love verified bitch.
Speaker 2: Yes, and he is our only child expert. Give it
Speaker 2: up for Kaylen Allen.
Speaker 1: Hey y'all, Oh, hey, y'all. Hey, you sounds like Paula
Speaker 1: Dane Sam's of racism. Oh my gosh, I know that
Speaker 1: fried chicken we say, say we're gonna add some butter.
Speaker 4: We're gonna add some butter right here. Hey, Caitlyn, how
Speaker 4: y'all doing good?
Speaker 1: So? Where are you from?
Speaker 4: First of all, originally from Kansas that's probably the accent.
Speaker 1: This is Kansas.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm from Kansas City.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I don't know. That's one of those things
Speaker 1: that I don't really think about.
Speaker 4: But like, have you seen Ted Lasso on Apple TV?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No, but everybody's talking about it though.
Speaker 4: Oh it's superb. But Jason Sadaikiss is also from Kansas
Speaker 4: City and his character in the show is from Kansas Well,
Speaker 4: it's from Wichita. Kansas, but basically the same thing, but
Speaker 4: we have a very similar accent. I was like, okay,
Speaker 4: so I do hear it now.
Speaker 1: Okay, listen, this is what you could do for me, sweetie.
Speaker 1: You could go ahead and drop your Apple password right
Speaker 1: in the chat, please, Yeah, so that we too can
Speaker 1: enjoy dead Lasso.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can get on the Unofficial Expert Pod without
Speaker 3: giving to the community.
Speaker 2: So in the chat, and we would love to hear
Speaker 2: know about this, said Lasso.
Speaker 4: Okay, wonderful, wonderful, wonderful.
Speaker 2: I will do that.
Speaker 4: Okay, but where do you live now, Los Angeles?
Speaker 1: I'll see you. It's a well lit home. There's a
Speaker 1: little dog in the background. The fridge is giving like
Speaker 1: super stainless steel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got we got a lot of sunshine. You know,
Speaker 4: we live the same day every single day here.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, But don't you know, you don't have to
Speaker 3: talk about the sunshine because the sun could be on,
Speaker 3: but it could also not work because sometimes it'll be like,
Speaker 3: you know, the sun is shining and then it's like
Speaker 3: forty two degrees over there at six pm.
Speaker 4: That's true, that's true. That's because it's a desert.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: They just irrigated water into the land. That's how they
Speaker 4: built it into the city. It's a desert accent and the.
Speaker 1: Accent and irrigate the lane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think arrogate is an SAT word, is it.
Speaker 4: I didn't take the SAT. I didn't have to. I
Speaker 4: only had to take the ACT.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, okay, well I didn't have to take Did
Speaker 1: I take the acts? Why is that?
Speaker 4: It depends? I think it depends on regions. I think
Speaker 4: if you live on like East Coast, you have to
Speaker 4: do the SAT too. But if you live in like
Speaker 4: the Midwest, they only require ACT. It really depends on
Speaker 4: the school I think.
Speaker 1: Okay, so now here you are our only child expert
Speaker 1: born and raised in Kansas City, Kansas. Yes, talk to
Speaker 1: us about to us about how the hell you ended
Speaker 1: up in LA, because I feel like a lot of
Speaker 1: people who are from small towns usually stay you know
Speaker 1: where they grew up.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, not me?
Speaker 3: Now, KLN may may I step there just for you're
Speaker 3: star baby. That's why the fuck he's not in Kansas
Speaker 3: City no more.
Speaker 2: He's got the talent capital t So he took his
Speaker 2: talent to LA and blew up like he was supposed to.
Speaker 4: Well, there's a little bit more to the story.
Speaker 1: City trying to give us the spark notes version of.
Speaker 4: I went to school in Philadelphia. So I left Kansas
Speaker 4: went to school in Philadelphia, and I didn't choose to
Speaker 4: move to Los Angeles. I was moved to Los Angeles.
Speaker 4: Ellen Degeneris moved me to Los Angeles, and that was
Speaker 4: when I started working in LA. So when I moved
Speaker 4: to LA, I was already working in the industry. I
Speaker 4: just came straight into it. But that doesn't mean that
Speaker 4: I want to live in LA. I would prefer to
Speaker 4: live in New York City.
Speaker 1: Wow, Because that's because you have eyes.
Speaker 4: That's because you know, you know right exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why is it that you'd rather live here?
Speaker 4: Just let the listeners know, Well, I would rather live
Speaker 4: in New York City because LA is too slow for me.
Speaker 4: I think because I'm only twenty five. I think I
Speaker 4: shall enjoy the hustle and bustle, you know, like I
Speaker 4: want the rush of the city every single morning. Also,
Speaker 4: primarily everyone that I know lives on the East Coast.
Speaker 4: But also there is an authenticity that resides in the
Speaker 4: species of humans in New York City that does not
Speaker 4: live here in Los Angeles. In Los Angeles, you got
Speaker 4: a lot of people trying to be just like the
Speaker 4: person next to them. You know, in New York you
Speaker 4: got individuals that wake up, they got somewhere to go.
Speaker 4: They don't care about what you're doing or who you are.
Speaker 4: They got goals and dreams and aspirations. And New York
Speaker 4: feels magical to me. New York feels like anything is possible.
Speaker 1: Listen and then q Andrew, then you could have the song.
Speaker 1: He absolutely, But that is that's the best way I
Speaker 1: think to explain it, because I know there are people
Speaker 1: listening who maybe are trying to decide whether they want
Speaker 1: to move to New York or move to LA And that's,
Speaker 1: to me, the best way to explain it.
Speaker 4: Well, if that is the case, then I think it's
Speaker 4: also important to undersandstand that I come from a very
Speaker 4: privileged space that I me moving to New York is
Speaker 4: going to be very different than somebody you know, fresh
Speaker 4: out of college moving to New York. So it's important
Speaker 4: to understand the difference in that He.
Speaker 1: Said, you're rinch right. He said, you gonna move to
Speaker 1: New York, but you're not gonna live how he lived.
Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying is.
Speaker 4: That that, you know, living in these big cities la
Speaker 4: especially like rent is not cheap, you know, And so
Speaker 4: it's like if you have an idea, like you can't
Speaker 4: go to New York and think you're gonna be living
Speaker 4: like Carry Bradshaw.
Speaker 1: That's just not Listen, Carry Bradshaw technically shouldn't even been
Speaker 1: living like Carry Bradshaw sh exactly.
Speaker 4: She didn't have no money.
Speaker 2: But that was the only show that like glamorized New York.
Speaker 3: Everybody else is living in a bum you know, walk
Speaker 3: up a part apartment, they have many roommates.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about, Sydney Friends? How much your mother?
Speaker 1: All these shows where the white people would live in
Speaker 1: lofts and they all work in coffee shops.
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on those First
Speaker 2: of all that Friends was not in New York, but
Speaker 2: also Friend Friends was in New York.
Speaker 1: No, Baby, oh Bach Okay, Andrew as a resident Beach,
Speaker 1: I wasn't in New York.
Speaker 2: Friends was in l a. No, it wasn't.
Speaker 4: France was in New York Central.
Speaker 1: That was New York. You coming in Hot, Loud and wrong.
Speaker 1: Wait was in New York. Baby, They lived in the
Speaker 1: West Village. Girl, they would live in lavishly.
Speaker 4: They were living. I don't even think apartments for that
Speaker 4: big in New York.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, did I never watch Friends? I've never
Speaker 2: watched Friends.
Speaker 1: Say why you bring it up?
Speaker 2: You know what? You know what I'm you know, I'm
Speaker 2: confusing Friends with nine O two one.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's what it is, baby, same thing, same thing
Speaker 3: is pretty much the same show.
Speaker 4: Pretty I cannot I cannot nine when that was a
Speaker 4: whole as.
Speaker 3: I remember the show, I'm confusing the whites. That's my
Speaker 3: that's the title of the show, Confusing the whites. I
Speaker 3: blimbed that I had in my head. I had, Kaylin,
Speaker 3: don't do that.
Speaker 2: You have to be on my side.
Speaker 1: You're a guest.
Speaker 2: You're a guest. Say sorry, say sorry, I'm not doing this.
Speaker 4: I followed you, not back.
Speaker 2: Yes, give me?
Speaker 1: Did Aretha also live in l A?
Speaker 2: Cut it cut it cut the tape, dead ass, got
Speaker 2: the camera set ass.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know what the point is that you
Speaker 1: were trying to make.
Speaker 4: But girl, we were talking. We were talking about how,
Speaker 4: you know, you got to have a realistic perception of
Speaker 4: what it's going to be like when you move to
Speaker 4: these big cities.
Speaker 1: Right, But New York for me, sorry, Sydney. New York
Speaker 1: for me is a better city to move in, even
Speaker 1: if you have less money, because the cost of living
Speaker 1: in LA and New York is comparable. You're spending the
Speaker 1: same amount of money. You just get more space in
Speaker 1: La Boom. Yes, but New York is easier to make
Speaker 1: friends and build a network and form like a group.
Speaker 3: LA.
Speaker 4: It's more, it's more. New York is more convenient, yes,
Speaker 4: you know, it's easy to go from one part to
Speaker 4: the other in the manner of fifteen minutes, you know.
Speaker 4: And I think it's also cheaper transportation wise than it
Speaker 4: is in LA, because in LA you got to have
Speaker 4: a car, Like we have no subway system that is
Speaker 4: reliable that will get you to where you need to
Speaker 4: go to, you know. So yeah, I just think New
Speaker 4: York City is built for community and culture while LA
Speaker 4: is not.
Speaker 3: And New Yorkers, right, you can make friends with other
Speaker 3: New Yorkers and the people could kind of look a
Speaker 3: little bummy and like very homeless, and you're like, oh,
Speaker 3: they might come from money, you don't know. But in LA,
Speaker 3: if you look homeless, they will assume that you were homeless,
Speaker 3: and they're like, oh, they're not booking, they don't know anybody.
Speaker 2: I can't be friends with them. In LA, you have
Speaker 2: to have like what are you doing? What's next? Are
Speaker 2: you working on a pilot? Do you have the script?
Speaker 2: Do you have to development deal? In New York, you
Speaker 2: could be like your girl. You know, I work at
Speaker 2: Chili's and you know I work at the strip club
Speaker 2: on the weekend and they'll be like, oh what what
Speaker 2: was good? The garlic promisean wings is popping the cell?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Or or you a waitress and then at night you
Speaker 4: go be on Broadway. That part, well, that's structure.
Speaker 1: LA is LA is what are you working on in
Speaker 1: New York? Is I gotta get to work? You get
Speaker 1: out of my way?
Speaker 4: Like exactly very much.
Speaker 1: So, so that's it. That's our little the more you
Speaker 1: know East Coast versus West Coast.
Speaker 2: But kayln, you said you came to La privilege, So
Speaker 2: what is it like you you had saved money?
Speaker 1: You have to are you a friend?
Speaker 5: You? No?
Speaker 4: I told you I was moved by and I was
Speaker 4: already working in TV.
Speaker 2: Okay, well tell us tell us that's about true.
Speaker 1: Okay, so Ellen degenerates, Yeah, Ellen, Now what happened?
Speaker 6: She saw a YouTube and she was like, oh, I
Speaker 6: like this, and yeah, that's that's exactly correct that I
Speaker 6: made some food videos in November of twenty seventeen, and
Speaker 6: then I moved to La January twenty eighteen.
Speaker 4: It only took a manner of a couple months.
Speaker 2: In the video you were so viral. Yeah, I was
Speaker 2: seeing your videos everywhere.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And so then from there she picked me up
Speaker 4: and I moved to Los Angeles and I've been here
Speaker 4: ever since.
Speaker 1: I don't think I saw these food videos. What you're
Speaker 1: doing in the food videos.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the food, the commentary, and your voice
Speaker 3: is very distinct. So it's like people can't do what
Speaker 3: you do. I've seen a few people do it, but
Speaker 3: it's like yours is very special. So you know, Ellen
Speaker 3: got a good eye.
Speaker 4: We've grown a lot since then. We've done a lot
Speaker 4: more since then. So I'm just grateful for the journey.
Speaker 1: Okay, talk about the journey. Let's start from the beginning
Speaker 1: of the journey. Okay, because I don't know how many
Speaker 1: minutes in we are, but so you are our only
Speaker 1: child expert, and you seem like a normal, well rounded
Speaker 1: human being. When I think of only only children's I
Speaker 1: feel like it's gotta be something a little off about
Speaker 1: them because they grew up alone.
Speaker 2: But you look not boo. I don't like what you
Speaker 2: just said.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that wasn't right, but I think so for me.
Speaker 4: For me, I think I was always well, my mother
Speaker 4: was very much, very strict on making sure that I
Speaker 4: was aware that there were other people in the world,
Speaker 4: you know, like it wasn't now. I will say there
Speaker 4: is a tendency, especially now. And I tell people this
Speaker 4: all the time, is that because sometimes somebody would be like,
Speaker 4: it's not always about you, and what I say is that, well,
Speaker 4: I don't really know any different because I'm an only child,
Speaker 4: so like I don't get it, Like it doesn't make
Speaker 4: sense to me. So I have to be very you know,
Speaker 4: conscious of it. I have to make sure that I'm
Speaker 4: always being considerate, Like I'm a very considerate person. People
Speaker 4: know that I will always put other people before me,
Speaker 4: because I already know because I'm an only child, it
Speaker 4: will come off that I'm only focused on me. So
Speaker 4: I'm very aware of people around me and how I
Speaker 4: make them feel and if they feel welcome and then
Speaker 4: they feel that I care about them.
Speaker 1: Yes, I hear what you're saying, but in order to
Speaker 1: prove that we have a guest joining it, no, imagine
Speaker 1: we have one of your friends on the line.
Speaker 4: So so and so said, and I'd be like, that's
Speaker 4: probably true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think we need to have a better
Speaker 3: discussion about oh, you only care about yourself or like selfishness,
Speaker 3: because there's I think we live in a world that like,
Speaker 3: you can't help someone unless you help yourself first. True,
Speaker 3: Like you can't put on the oxygen mask. You gotta
Speaker 3: put on your oxygen mask first and then put on
Speaker 3: the small child that you didn't really want to have
Speaker 3: in the first place. So I think, well, I think
Speaker 3: that it's okay to have you as a priority. And
Speaker 3: you don't even have to be an only child to
Speaker 3: have that mentality. Look at Marie, what.
Speaker 1: You said? All that just to Maria say, wild you can't.
Speaker 1: First of all, I'm a middle child. I am the
Speaker 1: oldest girl in my family, so I have an older
Speaker 1: brother and a younger sister. I don't know nothing about this.
Speaker 4: I could see that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. But now does your astrological sign have
Speaker 1: anything to do with this?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a Capricorn okay, so a hard.
Speaker 1: Worker and a little bit annoying.
Speaker 4: When it comes to work, child, that's all I do.
Speaker 4: I eat and breathe it. And when you asked me
Speaker 4: what do I do for fun work? I was in
Speaker 4: Saint Lucia for ten days and by the fourth day
Speaker 4: I was like, I need to work. I can't do this.
Speaker 4: I can't just sit around and do nothing. So I
Speaker 4: started working.
Speaker 2: And what I love to do.
Speaker 1: This is a cute is a long amount of time.
Speaker 1: That is who were you there?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Were you were?
Speaker 4: I went with my best friend tour. No baby, I
Speaker 4: don't have no bee. Are you kidding? I got work
Speaker 4: to do. I don't have time of this on that bed.
Speaker 2: We got to get you a bed. You can't have
Speaker 2: a cello in the back. And no Bay.
Speaker 4: Stressed me out.
Speaker 2: Well, they are there.
Speaker 1: Men are very stressful, famous exactly.
Speaker 2: I don't even deal with them.
Speaker 4: So yeah, there, you all say, Look, I wish I
Speaker 4: could switch it up, so do I.
Speaker 2: You can choose your fighter, Kaitlin, choose your fighter.
Speaker 1: It's up to you. Wait, so you were in, say
Speaker 1: Luci pretendings with your best friend? Are y'all hooking up?
Speaker 1: Is it like a like who no s your girl?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: I I knew that I needed to get away, and
Speaker 4: so I took the whole month of July off and
Speaker 4: so I was like, I'm not doing anything for July.
Speaker 4: And I was like, Okay, well, I definitely want to
Speaker 4: get out of the country because I've been stuck at home.
Speaker 4: So I was like, let's go to Saint Lucia. And
Speaker 4: so we went to Saint Lucia. I was there ten days, baby,
Speaker 4: and it was absolutely relaxing and pure joy.
Speaker 1: And you were like, I need to do some work
Speaker 1: right now, yep.
Speaker 4: And so I good thing I had my laptop with
Speaker 4: me because I showed up, pulled it down, and got
Speaker 4: to work.
Speaker 1: Well, you unlooked for at least four days. So I
Speaker 1: think that's that's the vacation for you, honestly.
Speaker 4: Mm hmmmmmm.
Speaker 1: So talk to us about what it's led growing up
Speaker 1: as an only child in Kansas City. What do you
Speaker 1: do to spend like, how do you pass time?
Speaker 4: So the thing is that I'm a natural homebody, which
Speaker 4: may also be because I'm an only child. It's like,
Speaker 4: when you're an only child, you have to find ways
Speaker 4: to entertain yourself, you know, because there isn't somebody there.
Speaker 4: And also all of my like cousins were way older
Speaker 4: than me, so it was like I wasn't going over
Speaker 4: their houses or hanging with them, so it was literally
Speaker 4: just me. So and that's why I think that I
Speaker 4: am very, very very self self efficient and I am
Speaker 4: very independent. I can take care of it all you
Speaker 4: already know, and so I think that was a perk
Speaker 4: for me. You know, I know how to take care
Speaker 4: of myself and I don't really need anybody. That's why
Speaker 4: I always say, especially when it comes to dating, if
Speaker 4: you are here, you're here because I want you here,
Speaker 4: not because I need you here. And there's a difference.
Speaker 2: You know, that's a little aggressive. Okay, you think that's aggressive.
Speaker 1: I'm sure men love to hear that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't need you. You're here by the grace
Speaker 2: of God.
Speaker 4: I did not say that. I said it's a difference.
Speaker 4: You don't have a lot of times, especially when when
Speaker 4: you're growing up and you have you know, childhood trauma
Speaker 4: or whatever everything you have codependency and stuff like that,
Speaker 4: and people, you know, bring people in because they want
Speaker 4: to feel taken care of or to you know, fill
Speaker 4: up those holes from their childhood. I don't experience that
Speaker 4: because I just always figured out a way to take
Speaker 4: care of myself, you know, which I think is also
Speaker 4: a trauma response, you know, to be like, well, I
Speaker 4: know that I can depend on myself, and I'm not
Speaker 4: going to give anybody the clearance or to be able
Speaker 4: for me to believe that they will, you know, take
Speaker 4: care of me. You know, it's like why even bother?
Speaker 4: And so that's something that we work through in therapy.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I love that for you, but yes, that
Speaker 1: is definitely I think a trauma response saying that you
Speaker 1: could do everything by yourself and you don't need anybody
Speaker 1: because we don't need people even when we don't think,
Speaker 1: even if we don't want to need them, we need them,
Speaker 1: which is okay, So that's send me.
Speaker 4: Over there, guy a lot in her mind, and I
Speaker 4: just need to know what you contemplating now.
Speaker 3: I just I'm like, now, I I have a brother
Speaker 3: and a sister, but they are eighteen years older than me,
Speaker 3: and I didn't grow up with them. They lived in
Speaker 3: New York and I lived in Oakland, California. So I
Speaker 3: maybe I had like a different way of life because
Speaker 3: I didn't have like I knew that I had them,
Speaker 3: but I didn't have them, so I was always kind
Speaker 3: of like searching for friendship, and my family was very
Speaker 3: very strict, like I couldn't have friends like that. They
Speaker 3: were like, your family is your friends, and I was like, well,
Speaker 3: I need some family that's around my age, Like I
Speaker 3: know that y'all are my friends, but y'all are you
Speaker 3: know sixty five? I need people that I can play,
Speaker 3: you know, ball with. I played ball with y'all. Y'all
Speaker 3: gonna y'all gonna fall. So and now I'm you know,
Speaker 3: I'm in my early thirties and I still carry that
Speaker 3: with me, that like I'm always searching for friendship.
Speaker 2: So you know, I wish I was as self sufficient
Speaker 2: in not needing anybody like y'all.
Speaker 4: Well, I do think that I think you can label
Speaker 4: yourself as an only child because and the reason why
Speaker 4: I say this is that I can relate to the
Speaker 4: fact that, like, I have two half brothers, but they
Speaker 4: two both are very older than me, and we lived
Speaker 4: in the same city, but I never saw them, like
Speaker 4: we didn't grow up together. So it's like, like you said,
Speaker 4: I knew of them, but I didn't really have them,
Speaker 4: and we didn't really get close until I was an adult,
Speaker 4: you know, But I do understand the need and the
Speaker 4: want for friendship, especially when you're like by yourself. And
Speaker 4: I also think it may be a regional kind of thing,
Speaker 4: you know, especially growing up in Oakland, California's so close
Speaker 4: to San Francisco, heavily populated that you're around people all
Speaker 4: the time, while in Kansas City is not as highly
Speaker 4: populated and it's spread out. And also I always felt like,
Speaker 4: especially as growing up gay in Kansas City, in being
Speaker 4: black and stuff, I was always ostracized. There was nowhere
Speaker 4: that I really fit in, you know, And so I
Speaker 4: think that is also another layer. So it's not only
Speaker 4: just being an only child. You have to add also
Speaker 4: being a gay man and being a gay black man
Speaker 4: and how that operates within the space as well. And
Speaker 4: I think that kind of adds to the independence as well.
Speaker 2: Kaitlyn, you were gay the whole time?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay, so like always being good was in
Speaker 4: part time?
Speaker 1: Is that what you always?
Speaker 4: Why did you think about it later on? Like it
Speaker 4: did it come later on in your life?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: No, no, no, always from the beginning.
Speaker 1: So what's that like being gay in Kansas City?
Speaker 4: You know, I don't think I really realized the difference
Speaker 4: until I left, because I think I was so just
Speaker 4: used to the culture, and I think a little bit
Speaker 4: that still, like I'm I still have certain things about
Speaker 4: me that are very conservative, I guess in mindset, and
Speaker 4: so because of me being from Kansas City, and it's
Speaker 4: more so like a presentation kind of thing or something
Speaker 4: like like if you see me out, I'm going to
Speaker 4: be very polished, I'm going to be very present. Bond
Speaker 4: no bonet, no, no, I wear my do rag outside.
Speaker 4: I'll do that from yeah, you know it. But I
Speaker 4: think it's more so like how I present myself, how
Speaker 4: I do my work, how I handle myself in emails
Speaker 4: and stuff like that. I am. I sometimes fall into
Speaker 4: respectability politics because of growing up in Kansas City, whereas
Speaker 4: majority you know, all white people. And even though so
Speaker 4: me and Janelle Money are from the exact same county,
Speaker 4: Wandat County, and so yes, yeah, so we're voting from
Speaker 4: Wandak County, which is the poorest county in Kansas, but
Speaker 4: it's also primarily all African American and Hispanic, and so
Speaker 4: that was a little that helped me as far as
Speaker 4: my blackness being able to understand that but when it
Speaker 4: came to being gay, need on a haystack, you know.
Speaker 4: So a lot of my identity was built out of
Speaker 4: the identity that I didn't see, if that makes sense.
Speaker 4: So I created who I am based off of what
Speaker 4: I didn't have access to, you know. So for instance,
Speaker 4: with being black and gay, I talk about this all
Speaker 4: the time. It's like I was asked in LA to
Speaker 4: judge a ball here in LA, and I was like,
Speaker 4: I don't know anything about that, you know, And everybody
Speaker 4: thinks just because you're black and gay, that you know
Speaker 4: about a ball, you know, And I'm like, I don't
Speaker 4: because we didn't have that in Kansas City, you know.
Speaker 4: But if I would have grown up in New York
Speaker 4: or something like that, then yes, I would know that culture,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: And so you have.
Speaker 4: So I often think about how our identities are built
Speaker 4: out of our environments, in our experience.
Speaker 1: But did you judge the ball?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, No, no, I went,
Speaker 4: you know, but because I, you know, I had been
Speaker 4: exposed to things like Paris's burning. I had been exposed
Speaker 4: to polls, you know, and all those type of things.
Speaker 4: So I had a base acknowledge to be able to
Speaker 4: sit at the table and be able to give a
Speaker 4: good you know, read.
Speaker 1: Right, you know how to say tens across the book
Speaker 1: exactly right?
Speaker 3: Did you watch Legendary Megan? Meghan the Stallion is not
Speaker 3: that verse in the ballroom culture, but she was there
Speaker 3: and she's like, you did your thing, You did your thing.
Speaker 3: I liked everything that you had got with got going on,
Speaker 3: you had the energy.
Speaker 1: Meghan the Stallion was definitely the randy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, uh, very much. That whole judging panel is kind
Speaker 4: of questioning. Interesting, Yeah, that's shame, that's shame. It's true.
Speaker 1: Well the other one, the one that.
Speaker 4: Jamila is on there and then there's law is on that.
Speaker 4: Now Layoi, Yes, like that makes sense. Of course that
Speaker 4: makes sense. I just think and and I do feel
Speaker 4: strongly about this. It's like, if you are going to
Speaker 4: do a show about ballroom culture, you are making that
Speaker 4: for the ballroom scene, right, So you put people on
Speaker 4: the panel that have a relation to that so that
Speaker 4: people can truly experience what that is. Instead it's just
Speaker 4: become American idol, you know, but making it more, it's
Speaker 4: making it palatable to white people, right, you know, that's
Speaker 4: really what it boils down okay, so.
Speaker 1: Who Okay, here we go, we're recasting the show. Who
Speaker 1: do you think should have been a judge on that show?
Speaker 4: I think we definitely Laomi should have say, you know,
Speaker 4: and I'm okay with like adding in somebody else, but
Speaker 4: they got to have some type of connection, like be
Speaker 4: some type of like gay icon or something.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't even been too mad if Madonna would have
Speaker 4: said on the judging panel because of the Vogue song
Speaker 4: and also with her including people from Paris burning, like
Speaker 4: you clearly have some type of knowledge of this this space,
Speaker 4: you know. I think that's what I would have wanted
Speaker 4: to know, like just not just what they don't have
Speaker 4: any connection to this. I just want to see people
Speaker 4: that have a relation to that culture.
Speaker 2: In some form.
Speaker 1: That's how I felt when I said jud Well, I
Speaker 1: said Jamila, I thought she was like a news reporter
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 2: She said, I'm queer, I'm I'm by I can.
Speaker 4: Be Now I would say, I love Jimmy la and
Speaker 4: I understand, you know, working in this business and getting
Speaker 4: those offers for certain jobs and stuff, and even if
Speaker 4: you don't really know, it's like, okay, I get the
Speaker 4: angle and want to participate. I don't even think that's
Speaker 4: something that's like her fault or you know, or Meg's fault.
Speaker 4: I think that's a that's a network thing. That's this
Speaker 4: network not really understanding. I guess diversity all the time,
Speaker 4: you know, And that's that's a Hollywood thing in general.
Speaker 4: We're always talking about diversity inclusion, but do they really
Speaker 4: understand what that means when you're surrounded by people that
Speaker 4: look just like you, you know, and not really in
Speaker 4: those cultures.
Speaker 1: Diversity inclusion for Hollywood is well, we have three blond
Speaker 1: people in here. Let's get a brunette. Yeah, yes, that's
Speaker 1: diverbs like that's yeah, you dated a black eye in college, right, yes,
Speaker 1: so this is this is a diverse and.
Speaker 2: And don't be don't be black gay and a woman.
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, that's perfect, that's all Trea, y'all and
Speaker 3: one let's go that's enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, black gay and a woman. But you have
Speaker 1: an Asian father exotic not the layers I'm on exotical.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Okay, So, so Kaitlin, you you went to l A. Right,
Speaker 2: you didn't have any friends or you had a few friends.
Speaker 4: Yeah, not in l A. I mean I probably knew
Speaker 4: like a couple of people household. You know, I keep
Speaker 4: my circle this tight, it is right, very small. So
Speaker 4: France was never a big priority to me, you know,
Speaker 4: I know, Sydney. Like, what do you mean, like you
Speaker 4: no friends?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: I understand it because first of all, you're coming to
Speaker 3: l A already, like with this audience, you're already coming,
Speaker 3: you know, Ellen job all of all of and then
Speaker 3: so you you don't need a whole bunch of people
Speaker 3: to navigate Los Angeles. But I'm just saying, like, if
Speaker 3: something went down, who would.
Speaker 2: You call in La?
Speaker 4: So now I do have a cohort, you know, I
Speaker 4: definitely have a few people that I would definitely call,
Speaker 4: you know, right on the dime of like my best
Speaker 4: friend Tory. So me and Tory went to school in Philadelphia,
Speaker 4: and because because I didn't have any friends here, I
Speaker 4: moved her here. Because hold on.
Speaker 1: Hold on, play some privilege, you moved her across the country. Yes,
Speaker 1: this is some only child bullshit. Right, let's be expine.
Speaker 4: Let me.
Speaker 2: Kalyn, just first of all, how long were you all
Speaker 2: friends for?
Speaker 4: We've been friends over like six years?
Speaker 2: Okay that's wait wait wait, wait, no. When you moved
Speaker 2: her over there, how it felt like no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4: But that would have been about like four years at
Speaker 4: that point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would move you to LA if I if
Speaker 2: I had the money, I would move you to LA.
Speaker 1: I would. But sending nobody listening to this is surprised
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: He's like, you could sleep in the dead of me
Speaker 1: my girlfriend, babe, make space for Brie. Marie, Marie, grab
Speaker 1: the blanket, sit the blanket, friend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, Marie, ungrateful.
Speaker 1: That's what you are girl. Okay, look hold on, so
Speaker 1: you moved this What was she doing when you moved her?
Speaker 4: Let's talk about at the time, not.
Speaker 2: Saying you don't. I came to Allan says, get your ship,
Speaker 2: me going to LA.
Speaker 3: You get your ship and you go, Actually you leave
Speaker 3: your stuff and you're like, I'm starting over.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay. She studied journalism and so she was living
Speaker 4: in DC and she was trying to, you know, figure
Speaker 4: out what was next for her career, just graduated or whatever.
Speaker 4: And I was like, well, why don't you come out
Speaker 4: to LA to try and see how you like it
Speaker 4: out here. You can live with me. I'll handle all that.
Speaker 4: And then I said in the trade off will be
Speaker 4: like and you can basically, you know, work for me
Speaker 4: at the same time, and sot, yes, exactly exactly. So
Speaker 4: then so then that's the way. And she's still here.
Speaker 4: But now she's going back to the East Coast because
Speaker 4: she's going to grad school, so she's going back. But
Speaker 4: I mean, and she runs my social media actually, so
Speaker 4: she's my social media producer and it works wonderfully.
Speaker 1: But now let's talk about it.
Speaker 2: What does it feel like?
Speaker 1: Because basically you pretty woman to her, you Richard Gear
Speaker 1: and she she's Julia Baige Roberts. And is she beige?
Speaker 2: No, she's black.
Speaker 1: I want to see who you were really uplifting in
Speaker 1: the community. So you move her out there? What is
Speaker 1: it like living with your friend in a city that
Speaker 1: both of y'all are kind of unfamiliar with and she
Speaker 1: ain't got no job.
Speaker 4: I love it, Well, she got job with me, but
Speaker 4: I love it because it really helps us to be
Speaker 4: able to the city, you know, and not having to
Speaker 4: worry about the fakeness of it all, you know, because
Speaker 4: we got each other so we don't have to worry
Speaker 4: about people trying to come in and move off of us,
Speaker 4: cause it's like, well we're good, you know, and it
Speaker 4: really allows us to just be able to get up
Speaker 4: everyone and be like, Okay, well we're gonna do today,
Speaker 4: you know, and just enjoy the city for what it
Speaker 4: is and not having to get all caught up in
Speaker 4: well I.
Speaker 1: Mean, she didn't got to worry about nobody moving over her,
Speaker 1: but you flew her out there. Yeah, and you're paying
Speaker 1: for all the groceries and.
Speaker 2: Kaylin, I fucking love you that. See you're an only child,
Speaker 2: but like you're still giving, You're still over.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my flaw.
Speaker 2: Why is that a flaw? No, Louise.
Speaker 4: But it becomes a flaw when men get involved. Because
Speaker 4: I am a I am a natural nurturer. I like
Speaker 4: to take care of people, you know, and so it's
Speaker 4: like a lot of times I think people me and
Speaker 4: gim and then they get into the MOMMI syndrome and
Speaker 4: then it's like I just end up taking care of
Speaker 4: them and you know, building them up, and then they
Speaker 4: just they go find somebody else, you know, and and
Speaker 4: so then it's.
Speaker 1: Like they be borrowing your car to go see some
Speaker 1: other duel.
Speaker 4: Oh no, they don't do that. Don't nobody drive my tesla.
Speaker 2: You can't. You can't drive my tesla.
Speaker 4: That's you cannot. You cannot, you cannot drive my tesla.
Speaker 4: But I mean it's like people like the way that
Speaker 4: I make them feel, you know, so like they want
Speaker 4: to come here and they want to get the like
Speaker 4: the the white picket fence kind of treatment, you know,
Speaker 4: because I'm a cook. I'm a cook dinner every day,
Speaker 4: and I'm ana, I'm gonna clean the house. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: take care of the dogs. I'm gonna do it all.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: It's two dogs back there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got too. So it's like.
Speaker 2: Calyn, you like gay women, I'll come on over there.
Speaker 2: We give a relationship.
Speaker 4: We don't even have to have sexual beautiful, beautiful. Yeah.
Speaker 4: But that's what happens is that I just end up
Speaker 4: taking care of them, and it's like I gotta be.
Speaker 4: I need to be taken care of too, you know.
Speaker 4: It's like I want to feel good too. I don't
Speaker 4: want you to just enjoy the fruits of my labor
Speaker 4: and I don't get anything back, you know. And I
Speaker 4: think also that's why I say being independent can be
Speaker 4: you know, bitter sweet, because people say, well, Kaylen doesn't
Speaker 4: need me or or or Kaylen's good, you know, and
Speaker 4: stuff like that. And like I said, it's like, yes,
Speaker 4: I don't need you, but I want you here because
Speaker 4: I want to share my life with you. When I
Speaker 4: go out in this world and I and I'm Kaylen Allen,
Speaker 4: I have to be on. I want to come home
Speaker 4: and be able to melt into.
Speaker 2: You and I have to be on a poet.
Speaker 1: That's that's the title of a of a song I'm write.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna write it melt into You. Look out for
Speaker 1: it on my album coming up, melt.
Speaker 2: Kaitlyn.
Speaker 3: We have a large, you know, gay following. You know
Speaker 3: a lot of gay men at that. You know, Andrew
Speaker 3: could tell you because he's got fans and they're they're listening.
Speaker 3: They're listening, and so.
Speaker 2: Like, maybe like maybe four things that you're looking for
Speaker 2: in a partner for that's a.
Speaker 1: Really weird number. You could have said three, you would
Speaker 1: have said five.
Speaker 2: But four four four is even number? For is even number?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 4: One first thing is that you cannot be like anybody else. Oh,
Speaker 4: if that makes sense that you're looking for snowflake. I
Speaker 4: need you, I need you to be different. I need
Speaker 4: you to be unique, and I need you to own
Speaker 4: that uniqueness, you know, like, I don't want to be
Speaker 4: able to find another you in the in the pile,
Speaker 4: you know, because I believe you're not gonna be able
Speaker 4: to find another Kalin. So it's like, if you can't
Speaker 4: find another me, I don't want to find another you.
Speaker 4: I don't want you to try and look like everybody else,
Speaker 4: you know. I want you to be your own individual.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: Two, you gotta have a strong sense of self and
Speaker 4: be very self aware, you know. I need you to
Speaker 4: be able to be like, Okay, I messed up here,
Speaker 4: let me fix it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: You have to be able to be willing to grow
Speaker 4: and to be able to become a better person. I
Speaker 4: don't need you to be perfect on day one, but
Speaker 4: I want you to be able to become who you
Speaker 4: want to be. And that's what's the point, not even
Speaker 4: who I want you to be, who you want to
Speaker 4: be and actually put in the motions to make that happen.
Speaker 4: Number three, I need you. You don't have to be rich,
Speaker 4: but you do have to be working towards.
Speaker 3: Something, Okay he said, he said, I'm not taking that potential. Okay,
Speaker 3: you potentially have to already be doing something right.
Speaker 4: You gotta have some type of dreaming aspiration and putting
Speaker 4: everything that you have into it and be willing to
Speaker 4: sacrifice everything in order to get everything.
Speaker 1: Sacrifice everything in order to get everything. Okay, all right, okay.
Speaker 2: And number four, number Maria is writing all this stuff
Speaker 2: writing it down.
Speaker 4: Number four is and this is like, because as my households, like,
Speaker 4: you have to be good with dogs, with dogs, dogs, Yeah, oh.
Speaker 2: That's easy, that's easy. I think dogs are easier to
Speaker 2: deal with than like cats.
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not good with dogs, so that one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, some people are not good with dogs. And that's
Speaker 4: very important to me because my dogs are my life.
Speaker 4: Those are my keys. Yeah, they.
Speaker 2: Kiss them on the mouth.
Speaker 4: Oh no, I don't do all that. I don't kiss
Speaker 4: them on the mouth. But I mean, like they're my keys,
Speaker 4: they're my my children.
Speaker 2: Table food, table food.
Speaker 4: They eat human gray food. I don't eat. I don't
Speaker 4: feed them table grade. I mean, I don't feed them
Speaker 4: from the table, but I feed them human gray food.
Speaker 4: So they live very Barbecue for the dogs, it's honey.
Speaker 4: We unthawed every single night. We heat it up in
Speaker 4: the morning, and we serve it to.
Speaker 1: One you call work and you say you get the
Speaker 1: meat out the freezer.
Speaker 4: I came home a day earlier from my vacation because
Speaker 4: my dogs were having separation anxiety from me.
Speaker 2: Kaylan, you gotta stop. You gotta let them be without you.
Speaker 4: They were for now days.
Speaker 1: It could have been ten. Okay, so hold on, let
Speaker 1: me let me write. Let me read what I wrote.
Speaker 1: You need a unique, self aware, not poor, not rich
Speaker 1: person who likes dogs. So in my mind, I feel
Speaker 1: you need like an older like not an like an artist,
Speaker 1: maybe like an architect.
Speaker 4: I was about to say that you're like an arch
Speaker 4: or a computer tech person.
Speaker 1: Somebody not in the entertainment that's working all.
Speaker 4: Way, I gotta add a number five you got you
Speaker 4: gotta have some type of intelligence. Intelligence.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 4: I love somebody that's book smart, smart, ool smart. But
Speaker 4: you gotta have common sense too.
Speaker 2: I thought that was given. Though I thought that was given.
Speaker 2: Who doesn't like somebody who's smart.
Speaker 4: Have you been to La see? That's things like. You
Speaker 4: live in New York, so you're around a whole bunch
Speaker 4: of intellectuals. That's why I love New York. I can
Speaker 4: have a conversation with New York and we could talk
Speaker 4: about some deep ship. You have conversations with here. People
Speaker 4: in La. All they talk talking about is who's gonna
Speaker 4: win the Ammi the TikTok, and like who's famous and
Speaker 4: who they met last week and how they was gonna say.
Speaker 4: I don't give a damn about none.
Speaker 2: Of that, Kaylen, you need to come on over here
Speaker 2: to define coming and hang out. Yeah, that's yeah, we are,
Speaker 2: you know, And you know what, I put my Vemo
Speaker 2: card down for us.
Speaker 1: I don't know since he got he got move his
Speaker 1: bestie across the country and.
Speaker 4: Pay for I pay for the dinner. No, no, you
Speaker 4: go to the SOHO house.
Speaker 1: I love that for us.
Speaker 2: Your wait, you're a member.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, honey, all houses?
Speaker 1: Oh the intern A card.
Speaker 4: I love that for us.
Speaker 1: And you've never bumped into anybody at any of the
Speaker 1: houses that yeah, take four of these boxes.
Speaker 4: So this is another bad I don't think I really
Speaker 4: pay attention. It's like you got to approach me. I'm
Speaker 4: more likely I wan't approach you because I'm just so
Speaker 4: focused and into what I'm doing that i don't really
Speaker 4: pay attention to my peripherals. And I've never been like
Speaker 4: boy crazy, Like I'm not the type of person like
Speaker 4: gonn watch it and be like, oh he found or
Speaker 4: I need to get his number done. I was never
Speaker 4: like that, so it's like you gotta approach me or
Speaker 4: say something to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Kaitlyn, you missed one hundred percent of the
Speaker 1: shots that you don't take me exactly right.
Speaker 2: You're right.
Speaker 3: You need to take sports, take off those thick work
Speaker 3: glasses and like see some shit. You know, let some
Speaker 3: people like like just oh, I love window shopping, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. I already got my clothes on.
Speaker 3: I don't need any more clothes, but sometimes it's fun
Speaker 3: to look. You know, I'm gay, but I'm not blind.
Speaker 3: My eyes deserve this deserves a little eye candy.
Speaker 1: You know. So what that means you be flirting with
Speaker 1: people in the park.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I just like to look like you
Speaker 4: see it, you see it?
Speaker 2: Like like, I I never really had a type.
Speaker 3: I knew what kind of person I kind of wanted,
Speaker 3: but I like, not until a year ago I kind
Speaker 3: of manifested what my type was. I was like, I
Speaker 3: want this person to look like this. Boom boom boom,
Speaker 3: and then the Lord gave it to me, give.
Speaker 5: It so amenah, So you know sometimes you you don't
Speaker 5: flirt or know what to look for in a person
Speaker 5: because you don't have that kind of like, oh, this
Speaker 5: is what I want the person to kind of look like,
Speaker 5: uh huh.
Speaker 1: I'm on the other side of that, I say, flirt
Speaker 1: with everybody.
Speaker 4: Wait, what's your sign?
Speaker 1: I'm a libra.
Speaker 4: Oh, Tory is a libra. That's my best friend.
Speaker 1: That's my best friend.
Speaker 2: Well, Kaylyn, she already has a best friend.
Speaker 1: You're right, And I mean, but Kaylen, we can go
Speaker 1: u we can go look for people together.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's a two for one deal.
Speaker 4: I would I would trust both of you to find
Speaker 4: me a man.
Speaker 2: No, but you know what, Maria is really good when
Speaker 2: let me tell you.
Speaker 3: When she's at the party, she's taking several laps and
Speaker 3: the lapse is for her to look who's in the room,
Speaker 3: what she wants.
Speaker 1: It's not even it's not even to see what I want.
Speaker 1: It's just so people can one see what I got on.
Speaker 2: You need her see me her.
Speaker 1: Okay, she's wearing a luk or she's wearing a week
Speaker 1: specific to the event, and two so I can see
Speaker 1: who's in the room. Like sometimes you go out and
Speaker 1: you sit with your friends you find a little place
Speaker 1: and you just camp out there, and there's a whole
Speaker 1: other chunk of the party that one is not seeing
Speaker 1: you or you're not seeing because y'all didn't move.
Speaker 2: You gotta stop camping.
Speaker 3: Stop coming to the party and camping out in the
Speaker 3: corner and getting all the snacks and just eating the
Speaker 3: snacks like little squirrels.
Speaker 1: Take take a lap. You see somebody who has something
Speaker 1: on that you think is cute, male female, compliment them,
Speaker 1: start a conversation. You never know who you're talking to.
Speaker 4: Honestly, now, I will do that and trust and believe
Speaker 4: every time Caitlin steps out the hell he giving a
Speaker 4: look to Oh.
Speaker 2: I believe it. I know you got a hard bottom
Speaker 2: shoe on.
Speaker 4: Okay, you know it, baby in a good little heel, Okay, at.
Speaker 2: Op it and you know what, you know, a good time.
Speaker 3: You know what else is like when you're with someone
Speaker 3: that's fun, you're automatically going to be laughing loud.
Speaker 2: So people are gonna see that to hear that me
Speaker 2: and Marie are laughing, We're like, we're like the little.
Speaker 3: Hyaenas and lion king laughing. So people sometimes we laugh
Speaker 3: so hard people think we're laughing at them. But it's
Speaker 3: just we are no, no, my gosh, we're nice.
Speaker 2: We're laughing at girl.
Speaker 1: We're nice. We're nicely laughing at people. Girls.
Speaker 2: My gosh.
Speaker 3: Now, Kaitlin, if you find your partner right and you
Speaker 3: want to start a family, do you think you'll only
Speaker 3: have one kid?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: No, I want more than one.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, because the going back, well.
Speaker 4: I think what I missed out on was I think family,
Speaker 4: you know, like I missed out on because I see
Speaker 4: like other people and see how close they are with
Speaker 4: their family, and I'm like, I never had that because
Speaker 4: it was kind of just like me and every everybody
Speaker 4: else was so old and then everybody had like their
Speaker 4: own little, you know, smaller family things, you know, and
Speaker 4: so I don't think I ever got to really experience that.
Speaker 4: And I want my kids to be able to have
Speaker 4: somebody that they can call that you know, knows them
Speaker 4: in through and through, you know. And so I definitely
Speaker 4: want my kids to have siblings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think for you it's it's especially important
Speaker 1: to do it this way because you don't really have
Speaker 1: any cousins, right, So, like for most people, your cousins
Speaker 1: are like your first best friends, right, because especially if
Speaker 1: you're close in age, So those are also people that
Speaker 1: you can talk to as like kind of backup siblings.
Speaker 1: So yeah, as an only child, they wouldn't. You don't
Speaker 1: have siblings, so they wouldn't have cousins.
Speaker 4: Oh that's fay, It's okay, we gonna.
Speaker 1: Work, Okay, So we want to have like three kids?
Speaker 1: Four kids? Gets you doing four?
Speaker 2: Four? That's four? That's too many, Kaitlin, that's too many.
Speaker 1: You asked four questions and he wants four.
Speaker 4: Kids, even the exactly that Andrew got it.
Speaker 2: I see the Beyonce portrait in the back, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: realized I.
Speaker 1: Was Beyonce in the background the queen. Is that from
Speaker 1: I Am King?
Speaker 4: Or yes? Well that was from the London Lion King premiere?
Speaker 4: A girl painted on Twitter and I was like, can
Speaker 4: I buy it from you? And now I bought it
Speaker 4: from her?
Speaker 1: Doesn't it feel good to have money yet?
Speaker 2: Him? Yeah, it's a beautiful way.
Speaker 3: But I think it's also wonderful to have money when
Speaker 3: you were already like you know yourself and you know
Speaker 3: what you want and you're not frivolous, and you know
Speaker 3: what you deserve and uh, you want to share it.
Speaker 3: With you know, a close friend, and you know random
Speaker 3: people that you met on the Unofficial Zoom Podcast. Yeah, honestly, exactly, Kaylin.
Speaker 3: We love I mean, you know what the thing is
Speaker 3: that I want to have like a family too, like
Speaker 3: like you. But I don't think I four is too many,
Speaker 3: just because I know that I am learning so much
Speaker 3: about myself that I'm still selfish and four kids, that's
Speaker 3: a lot I have to give up. It's already a
Speaker 3: lot that I have to give up for one that
Speaker 3: excites me.
Speaker 4: It excites you, It excites me. It excites me to
Speaker 4: be able to work and be able to provide a
Speaker 4: life and create a legacy for my children, and that
Speaker 4: by the time I have kids, I've done everything that
Speaker 4: I wanted to do. I've lived out all my dreams
Speaker 4: and aspirations, and now it's time for me to take
Speaker 4: the fruits of my labor and give them to you
Speaker 4: so that you can make all your dreams and aspirations
Speaker 4: school legacy. I've done everything that I want to do,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't. Everything I do now is just
Speaker 4: a bonus.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cry, Sidney, don't cry.
Speaker 2: You should.
Speaker 1: What you should do is name your firstborn child legacy.
Speaker 2: My first child is going to be kailing Allen the second.
Speaker 1: Not y'all co parenting.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you're going to see your father on the weekend.
Speaker 1: That's really funny. I like legacy, so I wrote it
Speaker 1: down and I put a box around it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think that I'm going to have children. I'm on
Speaker 1: the complete opposite.
Speaker 2: End of the spectrum as you guys really talk to
Speaker 2: us about.
Speaker 1: I don't like kids, And the older I get, the
Speaker 1: less I want to think about I gotta I have
Speaker 1: to keep this person alive. Plus I gotta raise them
Speaker 1: to be a good person. Plus I gotta teach them
Speaker 1: how to not pee on themselves and cross the street.
Speaker 1: Like it's it seems like a lot you want. You
Speaker 1: want to raise a happy kid, but you also want
Speaker 1: them to be smart, and then you also have to
Speaker 1: make sure they don't turn into a serial killer. Like
Speaker 1: that's m I feel like too much work for me.
Speaker 3: A lot of weight, a lot of waiters on it,
Speaker 3: and we don't really give uh more people more parents
Speaker 3: props when you do meet like really good like your
Speaker 3: parents awesome that they raised such a well rounded, smart
Speaker 3: individual that doesn't need anybody that's handsome, knows how to
Speaker 3: dress and very talented.
Speaker 1: But thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I Marie. I love your parents. I love
Speaker 2: them so much. I'm so glad that you're here. But
Speaker 2: you know, to get to where you are and where.
Speaker 3: Kaelen is, it's it's I mean, I can't even think
Speaker 3: about doing that for someone, right.
Speaker 1: It is a lot. It is a lot because you
Speaker 1: got to think about it, Like, Kaylyn, what do your
Speaker 1: parents do?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 4: Actually, my mother works from she don't work anymore. She's
Speaker 4: at home and I basically take care of her at
Speaker 4: this point. But she she she used to work in
Speaker 4: human resources.
Speaker 1: Wow, what's your mother's name? A Lois Lois Lois Lois.
Speaker 3: Oh, I would love a lowist at my job because
Speaker 3: I know that when I come with the HR bullshit,
Speaker 3: she's gonna get on it. She's gonna have the paperwork
Speaker 3: and she's gonna quickly hold one second what you said.
Speaker 1: She's gonna say, well, Sydney, what time have you been
Speaker 1: shown up for work?
Speaker 4: Yep, She'll take care of you.
Speaker 2: Okay, Marie, that's you. That's personal.
Speaker 1: It's just asking alois is asking real questions. You're having
Speaker 1: a hard time at work. Well, it says here that
Speaker 1: you've been shown up at ten am every day. You
Speaker 1: know your your shift starts at nine, right, A.
Speaker 3: Lois I will, Well, I'll say a Lois will the
Speaker 3: weight of the world. It stops me from getting to
Speaker 3: work on time.
Speaker 1: And you know, as a black woman, is that what
Speaker 1: you're saying? You in my office in front of my
Speaker 1: portrait of my son?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, oh my god, yeah, the weight of the world.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, so what's next for you, Caitlin? Like it
Speaker 1: sounds like I mean, because a lot of people think
Speaker 1: when they think only children, they think spoiled, selfish, bossy,
Speaker 1: not good with talking to people. But it seems like
Speaker 1: you kind of got it figured out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so what is Oh, you know, it's way versus depends.
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody has it all figured out right, right, right,
Speaker 1: right right? What were you saying, Sid?
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, Kayln got a contract that he
Speaker 3: just signed. He can't say much about it about his mass.
Speaker 4: Well, well, I can say, is I am?
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 4: I always knew that I wanted to be on TV.
Speaker 4: I knew that I wanted to be in that space.
Speaker 4: I didn't really want to remain in the digital space.
Speaker 4: So what I can tell you is that I will
Speaker 4: be on TV in more ways than one.
Speaker 3: In my eyes, you were already on TV in more
Speaker 3: ways than one. So I'm glad that it's uh in fruition.
Speaker 2: So good for you.
Speaker 1: Expand are you the new Indy Williams? How you doing?
Speaker 1: You do?
Speaker 4: Shut it up?
Speaker 3: Well, Kaylan, I really really enjoyed this. This was so
Speaker 3: much fun. I really feel like, you know, only children
Speaker 3: do get a bad rap, and you you showed it's
Speaker 3: another way. You showed us the way, the Kaylin Allen way.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if you proved anything wrong
Speaker 1: about but I will say I see you with a
Speaker 1: cello in the background, and that feels like an only child.
Speaker 1: That's instrument in the back, uh huh given Like my
Speaker 1: mom only to buy one instrument and this is the
Speaker 1: one that she bought. Like my dad had to buy
Speaker 1: three instruments. So it was like clarinet, saxophone, viola, but
Speaker 1: big ass cello in the back.
Speaker 4: See I wanted. When I chose, I was like, I
Speaker 4: want the biggest instrument, but I couldn't. The base went
Speaker 4: fit in the car so but the cello did. So
Speaker 4: I picked the chello, So why cello and not tuba?
Speaker 4: Tuba is big as hell? No, yeah, no, I love
Speaker 4: the like the musicality of the string instrument, you know,
Speaker 4: to play in the orchestra. Oh, the melodies.
Speaker 1: Well, then why not choose harp because the harp is
Speaker 1: bigger than that.
Speaker 4: Oh that's hard though, That's hard to do, and I
Speaker 4: don't know where that heart was gonna go.
Speaker 1: But it's beautiful.
Speaker 5: It is.
Speaker 1: There's a girl on Instagram who like does covers on
Speaker 1: her harp and it's just a it's gorgeous. We love anyway, Kaitlyn,
Speaker 1: you got some stuff in the works. We will be
Speaker 1: seeing you on TV. Is there anything that you feel
Speaker 1: like you didn't say that you want to get off
Speaker 1: your chest about being an only child or the person
Speaker 1: that you're looking for, or the children you're gonna have
Speaker 1: named legacy.
Speaker 2: Or the host or the hosts that you just met today.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: I love this.
Speaker 4: I think this was a great time. I truly enjoyed it.
Speaker 4: And I'm telling you, when I come to New York,
Speaker 4: we got to hang out. I'll be there soon, you know,
Speaker 4: filming some things, so we're gonna have to do it.
Speaker 1: I love this.
Speaker 2: I love this for us.
Speaker 1: Couragees Sidney, any of the questions that you felt like
Speaker 1: you need to go off your justice?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: Can you let the people know where you are on
Speaker 3: the Instagrams, the twitters where like if you're on the TikTok.
Speaker 1: Where they can find Tory?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I make it very easy. You
Speaker 4: can buy me everywhere at the Kaitlin Allen literally everywhere.
Speaker 4: You just type in at you will find me and
Speaker 4: Tory will be tak and something.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna friend Tory first.
Speaker 4: I'm like, there you are. Oh you love Torri. You'll
Speaker 4: love each other.
Speaker 1: Yea yeah, okay, Thank you guys so much for listening.
Speaker 1: Oh Andrew, did you have any questions? Because you know
Speaker 1: I'll see you up there in the little window. No,
Speaker 1: this is so much fun.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming on Kiln.
Speaker 4: I love everything that you're doing.
Speaker 2: It is so great to see, uh, you know, a
Speaker 2: more effeminate.
Speaker 1: Gay man on television. I love that you must get.
Speaker 2: All the time.
Speaker 1: So thank you so much for spending an hour with us.
Speaker 4: Of course, thank you.
Speaker 3: Okay, oh wait, oh wait, I needed to plug you know.
Speaker 3: My solo show is this Saturday at Union Hall in
Speaker 3: New York City. And Marie is doing a set before
Speaker 3: my for my show.
Speaker 4: So wait, is it comedy.
Speaker 2: It's it's a solo show about my about my childhood,
Speaker 2: and it is funny.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, okay. And Marie is a stand up
Speaker 3: so yes, comedy is involved. And Andrew is helping me.
Speaker 3: So it's a it's a family affair.
Speaker 2: Actually, I love that. Thank you.
Speaker 1: We'll do what we can, you know, we do what
Speaker 1: we can for the community.
Speaker 3: Yes, So get those tickets. I mean it's probably already
Speaker 3: sold out by this time. You listen to this, But
Speaker 3: what's okay?
Speaker 1: Well you tried?
Speaker 2: Yeah, bye, Love you guys, Forever.
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