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Speaker 1: Forever.

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Speaker 2: When I tell you me and Marie Hoggart.

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Speaker 1: Hoggart Sidney, turn your microphone down please for a little bit, sorry,

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Speaker 1: or slide back from me?

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Speaker 2: No? No, how about now? How about now? Is this good?

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Speaker 2: Is this better? Okay? Great? All right?

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Speaker 1: Now tell the people what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So you know, me and Marie are a little

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Speaker 3: books right now, so you know thet put the hair

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Speaker 3: behind the ear just a little bit. We're set until

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Speaker 3: six a m.

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Speaker 1: Honey, playing chic zombies. Okay, first of all, they put

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Speaker 1: all this nasty I got you know, we got there.

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Speaker 1: Face was made up because you can't trust these makeup artists.

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Speaker 1: But also we were coming from shows, so we show

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Speaker 1: up looking cute, looking good, smelling good, and they took

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Speaker 1: all that makeup off except for my cat, and then

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Speaker 1: they turned us into just gross zombies. And Sydney was

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Speaker 1: living her very best life. I don't know what it

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Speaker 1: is about my good sister, but anytime you could put

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Speaker 1: makeup on her to make her look ugly, she thrives.

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Speaker 2: Y'all.

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Speaker 1: Remember the Halloween costumes?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, we will never get over me. And

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Speaker 3: just being who was I?

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Speaker 2: Who was? I?

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Speaker 1: Again?

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Speaker 2: I forgot who? Were you trying to be Roger Klotts.

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Speaker 3: I was Roger Klotz for Halloween in like twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 3: and Roger you were Roger Knots.

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Speaker 2: I was Roger Notts. I thought I was green. I

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Speaker 2: was not. I was like a disgusting olive.

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Speaker 1: It was not good anyway, since the people know, they

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Speaker 1: love it, they see it. But so we played Zombies

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Speaker 1: last night, and you know, Sidney, the wig looks fantastic

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 3: But oh, this is a new one, Honey. That was

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Speaker 3: the set wig. And now the wig that was also

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Speaker 3: my real wig, which is the Marianne Maryanne Hay is

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Speaker 3: gonna be furious with me because.

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Speaker 1: Yesdney, of all the weeks to select to where you

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Speaker 1: put the good wig on, Like you don't have like

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Speaker 1: a gym wig you could thrown on.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't go to the gym. Friend, what are

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Speaker 2: you talking about? I hop in the uber, I get

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Speaker 1: Yes, but's just the gym wig at my house. Is

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Speaker 1: any wig that's stuck in the ponytail position, that's the

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Speaker 2: I don't do. I don't do ponytails.

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Speaker 1: Not to hold my ponytail, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I don't do that.

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Speaker 3: But AnyWho, she she curled it and everything for it

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Speaker 3: to just to get fucked up anyway.

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Speaker 2: So she's gonna be annoyed. But it's fine. I paid

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Speaker 2: her and she's.

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Speaker 1: Not gonna be annoyed because you keep paying her to

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Speaker 1: do the wig. So yes, she's gonna be.

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Speaker 2: Like, well, that's why.

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Speaker 3: If there's any networks listening, I still need to continuing.

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Speaker 3: I need to continue to get booked so I can

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Speaker 3: pay for this hair. I need a hair budget. It's imperative.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like you already have a hair budget. Sis,

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Speaker 1: what's the hair budget? What's the weak budget giving? Beyonce Junior,

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Speaker 1: what's it given?

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, Kelly Rowland adjacent.

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Speaker 1: Kelly, okay girl, I'm the week budget is Michelle Jesus

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Speaker 1: says yes, No, you will not say no.

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Speaker 3: That's not not in front of our new guests today. No,

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Speaker 3: You're not doing that to.

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Speaker 1: Me, Kelly. Have you seen the Kelly Calandria wigs man?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so I'm saying from certain angles and perfect lighting, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I will think you're.

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Speaker 1: Spending the same amount of money on your wigs that

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Speaker 1: Kelly is spending on hers. That's what I'm asking you.

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Speaker 1: That's the question.

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Speaker 3: You don't even know. Kelly could be frugal and she

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Speaker 3: could be renting hers.

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Speaker 1: Since your week budget giving Lattavia. That's what.

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Speaker 2: Uh you know, I'll take that. That's fine. You know.

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Speaker 3: I'm humbled. But it will get to Kelly Rowland soon.

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Speaker 3: I'm opening by twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Okay, wow, okay, put it on the vision board.

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Speaker 2: I'm putting on the vision board. So AnyWho.

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Speaker 3: We were there until six o'clock in the morning, very

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Speaker 3: very tired, but I wanted to have blood all over me.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to really get into it. And Marie was like,

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Speaker 3: I'm a vegan zombie. I don't eat nobody. I don't

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Speaker 1: Put this black ass blood in my mouth. And I

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Speaker 1: was like, what is that? Is it glue and free?

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Speaker 1: And Sidney was like more but just believe like it

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Speaker 2: She does.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, it's gonna be on HBO. It was an episode

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Speaker 1: of Search Party, so y'all can look for us for

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Speaker 1: the finale of the of the series.

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Speaker 2: Wait, can we say that though? Can we say that.

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Speaker 2: I just said it, Yeah, but I don't think we

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Speaker 1: Why can't we say that?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: What's the ladgic here?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe an nda? Well, no, they didn't

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Speaker 2: even did you sign something?

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Speaker 1: Since? No?

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Speaker 2: I didn't. Okay, Okay, it's in keep it.

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Speaker 4: It will keep it in Sydney.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Sidney we got. I got home at seven. I

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Speaker 1: went to bed at seven o'clock this morning. I've slept

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Speaker 1: for I don't know five hours. Where's this energy coming

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Speaker 2: Uh? No, I went to bed, same time around you.

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Speaker 3: But I just know that I'm working on myself because

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Speaker 3: I know that I can be very uh, very lax

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Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like I'm very like, what's drowsy? Drowsy?

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Speaker 3: What's the seven Dwarves? It's drowsy?

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Speaker 1: Was there a drowsy Dwarfs?

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Speaker 3: So I'm working on giving more energy and just being

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Speaker 2: This feels good.

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Speaker 1: Okay, sirs, I love that for you. I love that

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Speaker 1: you're working on you. We I have a guest this week.

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Speaker 1: We do so thank you for bringing that energy for

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Speaker 3: Also, you know, I'm coming down from a really big high.

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Speaker 3: You know, Jojo was in town in the building. The

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Speaker 2: I want her to hang. I was paying for lunch.

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Speaker 2: That's how happy I was. I paid. We went to lunch, Marie,

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Speaker 2: I paid for it. I went to lunch.

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Speaker 1: I feel like this. Oh you were paying for lunch

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, that's another reason if the networks are listening,

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Speaker 3: I need a lunch budget.

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Speaker 1: So I need to keep working. So please book me

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Speaker 1: as think for these budgets that you already have the

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Speaker 1: other people who ain't playing.

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Speaker 2: For lunch running out.

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Speaker 1: The people are like, did you already add the gratuity?

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Speaker 1: Like the people who are struggling to pay for lunch

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Speaker 1: are the ones who need the lunch budget, ma'am.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. I remember when I was a waitress

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Speaker 3: They were like, we didn't have graduity and I was like,

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Speaker 1: Fifteen people were fighting about leaving a tip graduity.

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Speaker 2: I think they were from Detroit.

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Speaker 1: You could have said it was it was fifteen cheap blonde.

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Speaker 2: No it was it was it was beige people from Detroit.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, thank you, thank you for fixing it.

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Speaker 2: Uh Marie, are we ready to bring in? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we're ready to start this episode so

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Speaker 1: I can go back and lay down. Yeah, absolutely, let's

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Speaker 3: Zombie number one chic Zombie number one to you, Well, obviously,

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Speaker 3: you know we have a lot of our friends on

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Speaker 3: the pod. But today today we have a new bee

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Speaker 3: Fresh Fresh fresh meat to expert.

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Speaker 2: We're popping.

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Speaker 3: We're popping his unofficial expert, Cherry. You could have seen

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Speaker 3: him on Ellen. Okay, I mean so many followers. He's

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Speaker 3: a he's a blue checked verified bitch.

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Speaker 1: We love verified bitch.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and he is our only child expert. Give it

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Speaker 2: up for Kaylen Allen.

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Speaker 1: Hey y'all, Oh, hey, y'all. Hey, you sounds like Paula

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Speaker 1: Dane Sam's of racism. Oh my gosh, I know that

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Speaker 1: fried chicken we say, say we're gonna add some butter.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna add some butter right here. Hey, Caitlyn, how

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Speaker 4: y'all doing good?

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Speaker 1: So? Where are you from?

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Speaker 4: First of all, originally from Kansas that's probably the accent.

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Speaker 1: This is Kansas.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm from Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, I don't know. That's one of those things

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Speaker 1: that I don't really think about.

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Speaker 4: But like, have you seen Ted Lasso on Apple TV?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: No, but everybody's talking about it though.

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Speaker 4: Oh it's superb. But Jason Sadaikiss is also from Kansas

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Speaker 4: City and his character in the show is from Kansas Well,

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Speaker 4: it's from Wichita. Kansas, but basically the same thing, but

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Speaker 4: we have a very similar accent. I was like, okay,

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Speaker 4: so I do hear it now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, listen, this is what you could do for me, sweetie.

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Speaker 1: You could go ahead and drop your Apple password right

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Speaker 1: in the chat, please, Yeah, so that we too can

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Speaker 1: enjoy dead Lasso.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can get on the Unofficial Expert Pod without

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Speaker 3: giving to the community.

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Speaker 2: So in the chat, and we would love to hear

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Speaker 2: know about this, said Lasso.

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Speaker 4: Okay, wonderful, wonderful, wonderful.

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Speaker 2: I will do that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, but where do you live now, Los Angeles?

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Speaker 1: I'll see you. It's a well lit home. There's a

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Speaker 1: little dog in the background. The fridge is giving like

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Speaker 1: super stainless steel.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we got we got a lot of sunshine. You know,

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Speaker 4: we live the same day every single day here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, But don't you know, you don't have to

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Speaker 3: talk about the sunshine because the sun could be on,

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Speaker 1: Listen and then q Andrew, then you could have the song.

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Speaker 4: That that, you know, living in these big cities la

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Speaker 4: She didn't have no money.

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Speaker 2: But that was the only show that like glamorized New York.

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Speaker 3: Everybody else is living in a bum you know, walk

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Speaker 1: What are you talking about, Sydney Friends? How much your mother?

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Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on those First

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Speaker 4: France was in New York Central.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, did I never watch Friends? I've never

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Speaker 2: You know what? You know what I'm you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's what it is, baby, same thing, same thing

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Speaker 3: I remember the show, I'm confusing the whites. That's my

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Speaker 3: that's the title of the show, Confusing the whites. I

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Speaker 2: You have to be on my side.

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Speaker 1: You're a guest.

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Speaker 2: You're a guest. Say sorry, say sorry, I'm not doing this.

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Speaker 4: I followed you, not back.

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Speaker 4: But girl, we were talking. We were talking about how,

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Speaker 1: Right, But New York for me, sorry, Sydney. New York

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Speaker 1: La Boom. Yes, but New York is easier to make

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Speaker 4: It's more, it's more. New York is more convenient, yes,

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Speaker 3: And New Yorkers, right, you can make friends with other

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Speaker 2: Do you have to development deal? In New York, you

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Speaker 4: Or or you a waitress and then at night you

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Speaker 1: LA is LA is what are you working on in

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Speaker 4: Like exactly very much.

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Speaker 1: So, so that's it. That's our little the more you

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Speaker 2: But kayln, you said you came to La privilege, So

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Speaker 1: You have to are you a friend?

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Speaker 5: You? No?

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Speaker 4: I told you I was moved by and I was

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Speaker 2: Okay, well tell us tell us that's about true.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so Ellen degenerates, Yeah, Ellen, Now what happened?

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Speaker 6: She saw a YouTube and she was like, oh, I

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Speaker 4: It only took a manner of a couple months.

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Speaker 2: In the video you were so viral. Yeah, I was

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Speaker 4: Yeah. And so then from there she picked me up

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Speaker 1: I don't think I saw these food videos. What you're

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about the food, the commentary, and your voice

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Speaker 3: it's like yours is very special. So you know, Ellen

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Speaker 4: We've grown a lot since then. We've done a lot

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Speaker 1: of the journey. Okay, because I don't know how many

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Speaker 2: But you look not boo. I don't like what you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that wasn't right, but I think so for me.

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Speaker 4: For me, I think I was always well, my mother

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Speaker 4: make them feel and if they feel welcome and then

444
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Speaker 4: they feel that I care about them.

445
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Speaker 1: Yes, I hear what you're saying, but in order to

446
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 1: prove that we have a guest joining it, no, imagine

447
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 1: we have one of your friends on the line.

448
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 4: So so and so said, and I'd be like, that's

449
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 4: probably true.

450
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think we need to have a better

451
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,880
Speaker 3: discussion about oh, you only care about yourself or like selfishness,

452
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 3: because there's I think we live in a world that like,

453
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 3: you can't help someone unless you help yourself first. True,

454
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 3: Like you can't put on the oxygen mask. You gotta

455
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 3: put on your oxygen mask first and then put on

456
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Speaker 3: the small child that you didn't really want to have

457
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 3: in the first place. So I think, well, I think

458
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 3: that it's okay to have you as a priority. And

459
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 3: you don't even have to be an only child to

460
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,199
Speaker 3: have that mentality. Look at Marie, what.

461
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 1: You said? All that just to Maria say, wild you can't.

462
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: First of all, I'm a middle child. I am the

463
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 1: oldest girl in my family, so I have an older

464
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Speaker 1: brother and a younger sister. I don't know nothing about this.

465
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 4: I could see that.

466
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. But now does your astrological sign have

467
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: anything to do with this?

468
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 2: Oh?

469
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a Capricorn okay, so a hard.

470
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 1: Worker and a little bit annoying.

471
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 4: When it comes to work, child, that's all I do.

472
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 4: I eat and breathe it. And when you asked me

473
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 4: what do I do for fun work? I was in

474
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 4: Saint Lucia for ten days and by the fourth day

475
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 4: I was like, I need to work. I can't do this.

476
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 4: I can't just sit around and do nothing. So I

477
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 4: started working.

478
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 2: And what I love to do.

479
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,719
Speaker 1: This is a cute is a long amount of time.

480
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 1: That is who were you there?

481
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 4: Yeah?

482
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 2: Were you were?

483
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 4: I went with my best friend tour. No baby, I

484
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 4: don't have no bee. Are you kidding? I got work

485
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 4: to do. I don't have time of this on that bed.

486
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 2: We got to get you a bed. You can't have

487
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 2: a cello in the back. And no Bay.

488
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 4: Stressed me out.

489
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 2: Well, they are there.

490
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: Men are very stressful, famous exactly.

491
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 2: I don't even deal with them.

492
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 4: So yeah, there, you all say, Look, I wish I

493
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 4: could switch it up, so do I.

494
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 2: You can choose your fighter, Kaitlin, choose your fighter.

495
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: It's up to you. Wait, so you were in, say

496
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: Luci pretendings with your best friend? Are y'all hooking up?

497
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 1: Is it like a like who no s your girl?

498
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 5: No?

499
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 4: I I knew that I needed to get away, and

500
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 4: so I took the whole month of July off and

501
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 4: so I was like, I'm not doing anything for July.

502
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 4: And I was like, Okay, well, I definitely want to

503
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 4: get out of the country because I've been stuck at home.

504
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 4: So I was like, let's go to Saint Lucia. And

505
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 4: so we went to Saint Lucia. I was there ten days, baby,

506
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 4: and it was absolutely relaxing and pure joy.

507
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: And you were like, I need to do some work

508
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: right now, yep.

509
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 4: And so I good thing I had my laptop with

510
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,239
Speaker 4: me because I showed up, pulled it down, and got

511
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 4: to work.

512
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: Well, you unlooked for at least four days. So I

513
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: think that's that's the vacation for you, honestly.

514
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 4: Mm hmmmmmm.

515
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: So talk to us about what it's led growing up

516
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 1: as an only child in Kansas City. What do you

517
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 1: do to spend like, how do you pass time?

518
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 4: So the thing is that I'm a natural homebody, which

519
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 4: may also be because I'm an only child. It's like,

520
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 4: when you're an only child, you have to find ways

521
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 4: to entertain yourself, you know, because there isn't somebody there.

522
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 4: And also all of my like cousins were way older

523
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 4: than me, so it was like I wasn't going over

524
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 4: their houses or hanging with them, so it was literally

525
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 4: just me. So and that's why I think that I

526
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,479
Speaker 4: am very, very very self self efficient and I am

527
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 4: very independent. I can take care of it all you

528
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 4: already know, and so I think that was a perk

529
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 4: for me. You know, I know how to take care

530
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 4: of myself and I don't really need anybody. That's why

531
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 4: I always say, especially when it comes to dating, if

532
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 4: you are here, you're here because I want you here,

533
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 4: not because I need you here. And there's a difference.

534
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 2: You know, that's a little aggressive. Okay, you think that's aggressive.

535
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure men love to hear that.

536
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't need you. You're here by the grace

537
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 2: of God.

538
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 4: I did not say that. I said it's a difference.

539
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 4: You don't have a lot of times, especially when when

540
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 4: you're growing up and you have you know, childhood trauma

541
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 4: or whatever everything you have codependency and stuff like that,

542
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 4: and people, you know, bring people in because they want

543
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 4: to feel taken care of or to you know, fill

544
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 4: up those holes from their childhood. I don't experience that

545
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 4: because I just always figured out a way to take

546
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 4: care of myself, you know, which I think is also

547
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 4: a trauma response, you know, to be like, well, I

548
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 4: know that I can depend on myself, and I'm not

549
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 4: going to give anybody the clearance or to be able

550
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 4: for me to believe that they will, you know, take

551
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 4: care of me. You know, it's like why even bother?

552
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 4: And so that's something that we work through in therapy.

553
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I love that for you, but yes, that

554
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: is definitely I think a trauma response saying that you

555
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: could do everything by yourself and you don't need anybody

556
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: because we don't need people even when we don't think,

557
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: even if we don't want to need them, we need them,

558
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: which is okay, So that's send me.

559
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 4: Over there, guy a lot in her mind, and I

560
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 4: just need to know what you contemplating now.

561
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 3: I just I'm like, now, I I have a brother

562
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 3: and a sister, but they are eighteen years older than me,

563
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 3: and I didn't grow up with them. They lived in

564
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 3: New York and I lived in Oakland, California. So I

565
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 3: maybe I had like a different way of life because

566
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 3: I didn't have like I knew that I had them,

567
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 3: but I didn't have them, so I was always kind

568
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 3: of like searching for friendship, and my family was very

569
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 3: very strict, like I couldn't have friends like that. They

570
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 3: were like, your family is your friends, and I was like, well,

571
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 3: I need some family that's around my age, Like I

572
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 3: know that y'all are my friends, but y'all are you

573
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 3: know sixty five? I need people that I can play,

574
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 3: you know, ball with. I played ball with y'all. Y'all

575
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 3: gonna y'all gonna fall. So and now I'm you know,

576
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 3: I'm in my early thirties and I still carry that

577
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 3: with me, that like I'm always searching for friendship.

578
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 2: So you know, I wish I was as self sufficient

579
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 2: in not needing anybody like y'all.

580
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 4: Well, I do think that I think you can label

581
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 4: yourself as an only child because and the reason why

582
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 4: I say this is that I can relate to the

583
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 4: fact that, like, I have two half brothers, but they

584
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 4: two both are very older than me, and we lived

585
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 4: in the same city, but I never saw them, like

586
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 4: we didn't grow up together. So it's like, like you said,

587
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 4: I knew of them, but I didn't really have them,

588
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 4: and we didn't really get close until I was an adult,

589
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 4: you know, But I do understand the need and the

590
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 4: want for friendship, especially when you're like by yourself. And

591
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 4: I also think it may be a regional kind of thing,

592
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 4: you know, especially growing up in Oakland, California's so close

593
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 4: to San Francisco, heavily populated that you're around people all

594
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 4: the time, while in Kansas City is not as highly

595
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 4: populated and it's spread out. And also I always felt like,

596
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 4: especially as growing up gay in Kansas City, in being

597
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,959
Speaker 4: black and stuff, I was always ostracized. There was nowhere

598
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 4: that I really fit in, you know, And so I

599
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 4: think that is also another layer. So it's not only

600
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 4: just being an only child. You have to add also

601
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 4: being a gay man and being a gay black man

602
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 4: and how that operates within the space as well. And

603
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 4: I think that kind of adds to the independence as well.

604
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 2: Kaitlyn, you were gay the whole time?

605
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay, so like always being good was in

606
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 4: part time?

607
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: Is that what you always?

608
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 4: Why did you think about it later on? Like it

609
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 4: did it come later on in your life?

610
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: No?

611
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 4: No, no, no, always from the beginning.

612
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: So what's that like being gay in Kansas City?

613
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 4: You know, I don't think I really realized the difference

614
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 4: until I left, because I think I was so just

615
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 4: used to the culture, and I think a little bit

616
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 4: that still, like I'm I still have certain things about

617
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 4: me that are very conservative, I guess in mindset, and

618
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 4: so because of me being from Kansas City, and it's

619
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 4: more so like a presentation kind of thing or something

620
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 4: like like if you see me out, I'm going to

621
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 4: be very polished, I'm going to be very present. Bond

622
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 4: no bonet, no, no, I wear my do rag outside.

623
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 4: I'll do that from yeah, you know it. But I

624
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 4: think it's more so like how I present myself, how

625
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 4: I do my work, how I handle myself in emails

626
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 4: and stuff like that. I am. I sometimes fall into

627
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 4: respectability politics because of growing up in Kansas City, whereas

628
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 4: majority you know, all white people. And even though so

629
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 4: me and Janelle Money are from the exact same county,

630
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 4: Wandat County, and so yes, yeah, so we're voting from

631
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 4: Wandak County, which is the poorest county in Kansas, but

632
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 4: it's also primarily all African American and Hispanic, and so

633
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 4: that was a little that helped me as far as

634
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 4: my blackness being able to understand that but when it

635
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 4: came to being gay, need on a haystack, you know.

636
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 4: So a lot of my identity was built out of

637
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 4: the identity that I didn't see, if that makes sense.

638
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 4: So I created who I am based off of what

639
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 4: I didn't have access to, you know. So for instance,

640
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 4: with being black and gay, I talk about this all

641
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 4: the time. It's like I was asked in LA to

642
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 4: judge a ball here in LA, and I was like,

643
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 4: I don't know anything about that, you know, And everybody

644
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 4: thinks just because you're black and gay, that you know

645
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 4: about a ball, you know, And I'm like, I don't

646
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 4: because we didn't have that in Kansas City, you know.

647
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 4: But if I would have grown up in New York

648
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 4: or something like that, then yes, I would know that culture,

649
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 4: you know.

650
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: And so you have.

651
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 4: So I often think about how our identities are built

652
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 4: out of our environments, in our experience.

653
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: But did you judge the ball?

654
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, No, no, I went,

655
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 4: you know, but because I, you know, I had been

656
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 4: exposed to things like Paris's burning. I had been exposed

657
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 4: to polls, you know, and all those type of things.

658
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 4: So I had a base acknowledge to be able to

659
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 4: sit at the table and be able to give a

660
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 4: good you know, read.

661
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: Right, you know how to say tens across the book

662
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: exactly right?

663
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 3: Did you watch Legendary Megan? Meghan the Stallion is not

664
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 3: that verse in the ballroom culture, but she was there

665
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 3: and she's like, you did your thing, You did your thing.

666
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: I liked everything that you had got with got going on,

667
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: you had the energy.

668
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: Meghan the Stallion was definitely the randy.

669
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, uh, very much. That whole judging panel is kind

670
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 4: of questioning. Interesting, Yeah, that's shame, that's shame. It's true.

671
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: Well the other one, the one that.

672
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 4: Jamila is on there and then there's law is on that.

673
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 4: Now Layoi, Yes, like that makes sense. Of course that

674
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 4: makes sense. I just think and and I do feel

675
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 4: strongly about this. It's like, if you are going to

676
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 4: do a show about ballroom culture, you are making that

677
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 4: for the ballroom scene, right, So you put people on

678
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 4: the panel that have a relation to that so that

679
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 4: people can truly experience what that is. Instead it's just

680
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 4: become American idol, you know, but making it more, it's

681
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 4: making it palatable to white people, right, you know, that's

682
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 4: really what it boils down okay, so.

683
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: Who Okay, here we go, we're recasting the show. Who

684
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: do you think should have been a judge on that show?

685
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 4: I think we definitely Laomi should have say, you know,

686
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 4: and I'm okay with like adding in somebody else, but

687
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 4: they got to have some type of connection, like be

688
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 4: some type of like gay icon or something.

689
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: You know.

690
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 4: I wouldn't even been too mad if Madonna would have

691
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 4: said on the judging panel because of the Vogue song

692
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 4: and also with her including people from Paris burning, like

693
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 4: you clearly have some type of knowledge of this this space,

694
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 4: you know. I think that's what I would have wanted

695
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 4: to know, like just not just what they don't have

696
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 4: any connection to this. I just want to see people

697
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 4: that have a relation to that culture.

698
00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: In some form.

699
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: That's how I felt when I said jud Well, I

700
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: said Jamila, I thought she was like a news reporter

701
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: or something.

702
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 2: She said, I'm queer, I'm I'm by I can.

703
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 4: Be Now I would say, I love Jimmy la and

704
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 4: I understand, you know, working in this business and getting

705
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 4: those offers for certain jobs and stuff, and even if

706
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 4: you don't really know, it's like, okay, I get the

707
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 4: angle and want to participate. I don't even think that's

708
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 4: something that's like her fault or you know, or Meg's fault.

709
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 4: I think that's a that's a network thing. That's this

710
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 4: network not really understanding. I guess diversity all the time,

711
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 4: you know, And that's that's a Hollywood thing in general.

712
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 4: We're always talking about diversity inclusion, but do they really

713
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 4: understand what that means when you're surrounded by people that

714
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 4: look just like you, you know, and not really in

715
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 4: those cultures.

716
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,959
Speaker 1: Diversity inclusion for Hollywood is well, we have three blond

717
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: people in here. Let's get a brunette. Yeah, yes, that's

718
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 1: diverbs like that's yeah, you dated a black eye in college, right, yes,

719
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: so this is this is a diverse and.

720
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 2: And don't be don't be black gay and a woman.

721
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, that's perfect, that's all Trea, y'all and

722
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 3: one let's go that's enough.

723
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, black gay and a woman. But you have

724
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: an Asian father exotic not the layers I'm on exotical.

725
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

726
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: Okay, So, so Kaitlin, you you went to l A. Right,

727
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: you didn't have any friends or you had a few friends.

728
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, not in l A. I mean I probably knew

729
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 4: like a couple of people household. You know, I keep

730
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 4: my circle this tight, it is right, very small. So

731
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 4: France was never a big priority to me, you know,

732
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 4: I know, Sydney. Like, what do you mean, like you

733
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 4: no friends?

734
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no.

735
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 3: I understand it because first of all, you're coming to

736
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 3: l A already, like with this audience, you're already coming,

737
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 3: you know, Ellen job all of all of and then

738
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 3: so you you don't need a whole bunch of people

739
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 3: to navigate Los Angeles. But I'm just saying, like, if

740
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: something went down, who would.

741
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 2: You call in La?

742
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 4: So now I do have a cohort, you know, I

743
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 4: definitely have a few people that I would definitely call,

744
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 4: you know, right on the dime of like my best

745
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 4: friend Tory. So me and Tory went to school in Philadelphia,

746
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 4: and because because I didn't have any friends here, I

747
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 4: moved her here. Because hold on.

748
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: Hold on, play some privilege, you moved her across the country. Yes,

749
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: this is some only child bullshit. Right, let's be expine.

750
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 4: Let me.

751
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: Kalyn, just first of all, how long were you all

752
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 2: friends for?

753
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 4: We've been friends over like six years?

754
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 2: Okay that's wait wait wait, wait, no. When you moved

755
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: her over there, how it felt like no, no, no, no.

756
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 4: But that would have been about like four years at

757
00:36:58,560 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 4: that point.

758
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would move you to LA if I if

759
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 2: I had the money, I would move you to LA.

760
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: I would. But sending nobody listening to this is surprised

761
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: about that.

762
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

763
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: He's like, you could sleep in the dead of me

764
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:19,479
Speaker 1: my girlfriend, babe, make space for Brie. Marie, Marie, grab

765
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 1: the blanket, sit the blanket, friend.

766
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, Marie, ungrateful.

767
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: That's what you are girl. Okay, look hold on, so

768
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: you moved this What was she doing when you moved her?

769
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 4: Let's talk about at the time, not.

770
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 2: Saying you don't. I came to Allan says, get your ship,

771
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: me going to LA.

772
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 3: You get your ship and you go, Actually you leave

773
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 3: your stuff and you're like, I'm starting over.

774
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay. She studied journalism and so she was living

775
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 4: in DC and she was trying to, you know, figure

776
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 4: out what was next for her career, just graduated or whatever.

777
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 4: And I was like, well, why don't you come out

778
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 4: to LA to try and see how you like it

779
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 4: out here. You can live with me. I'll handle all that.

780
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 4: And then I said in the trade off will be

781
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 4: like and you can basically, you know, work for me

782
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 4: at the same time, and sot, yes, exactly exactly. So

783
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 4: then so then that's the way. And she's still here.

784
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 4: But now she's going back to the East Coast because

785
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 4: she's going to grad school, so she's going back. But

786
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 4: I mean, and she runs my social media actually, so

787
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 4: she's my social media producer and it works wonderfully.

788
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: But now let's talk about it.

789
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: What does it feel like?

790
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: Because basically you pretty woman to her, you Richard Gear

791
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: and she she's Julia Baige Roberts. And is she beige?

792
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 2: No, she's black.

793
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: I want to see who you were really uplifting in

794
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: the community. So you move her out there? What is

795
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: it like living with your friend in a city that

796
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: both of y'all are kind of unfamiliar with and she

797
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: ain't got no job.

798
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 4: I love it, Well, she got job with me, but

799
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 4: I love it because it really helps us to be

800
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 4: able to the city, you know, and not having to

801
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 4: worry about the fakeness of it all, you know, because

802
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 4: we got each other so we don't have to worry

803
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 4: about people trying to come in and move off of us,

804
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 4: cause it's like, well we're good, you know, and it

805
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 4: really allows us to just be able to get up

806
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 4: everyone and be like, Okay, well we're gonna do today,

807
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 4: you know, and just enjoy the city for what it

808
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 4: is and not having to get all caught up in

809
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 4: well I.

810
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: Mean, she didn't got to worry about nobody moving over her,

811
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: but you flew her out there. Yeah, and you're paying

812
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: for all the groceries and.

813
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 2: Kaylin, I fucking love you that. See you're an only child,

814
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,959
Speaker 2: but like you're still giving, You're still over.

815
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my flaw.

816
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 2: Why is that a flaw? No, Louise.

817
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 4: But it becomes a flaw when men get involved. Because

818
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 4: I am a I am a natural nurturer. I like

819
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 4: to take care of people, you know, and so it's

820
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 4: like a lot of times I think people me and

821
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 4: gim and then they get into the MOMMI syndrome and

822
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 4: then it's like I just end up taking care of

823
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 4: them and you know, building them up, and then they

824
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 4: just they go find somebody else, you know, and and

825
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 4: so then it's.

826
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: Like they be borrowing your car to go see some

827
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: other duel.

828
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 4: Oh no, they don't do that. Don't nobody drive my tesla.

829
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 2: You can't. You can't drive my tesla.

830
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 4: That's you cannot. You cannot, you cannot drive my tesla.

831
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 4: But I mean it's like people like the way that

832
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 4: I make them feel, you know, so like they want

833
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 4: to come here and they want to get the like

834
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 4: the the white picket fence kind of treatment, you know,

835
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 4: because I'm a cook. I'm a cook dinner every day,

836
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 4: and I'm ana, I'm gonna clean the house. I'm gonna

837
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 4: take care of the dogs. I'm gonna do it all.

838
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 4: You know.

839
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: It's two dogs back there.

840
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got too. So it's like.

841
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: Calyn, you like gay women, I'll come on over there.

842
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: We give a relationship.

843
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 4: We don't even have to have sexual beautiful, beautiful. Yeah.

844
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 4: But that's what happens is that I just end up

845
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 4: taking care of them, and it's like I gotta be.

846
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 4: I need to be taken care of too, you know.

847
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 4: It's like I want to feel good too. I don't

848
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 4: want you to just enjoy the fruits of my labor

849
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 4: and I don't get anything back, you know. And I

850
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 4: think also that's why I say being independent can be

851
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 4: you know, bitter sweet, because people say, well, Kaylen doesn't

852
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 4: need me or or or Kaylen's good, you know, and

853
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 4: stuff like that. And like I said, it's like, yes,

854
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 4: I don't need you, but I want you here because

855
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 4: I want to share my life with you. When I

856
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,919
Speaker 4: go out in this world and I and I'm Kaylen Allen,

857
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 4: I have to be on. I want to come home

858
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 4: and be able to melt into.

859
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: You and I have to be on a poet.

860
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 1: That's that's the title of a of a song I'm write.

861
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna write it melt into You. Look out for

862
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: it on my album coming up, melt.

863
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 2: Kaitlyn.

864
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 3: We have a large, you know, gay following. You know

865
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 3: a lot of gay men at that. You know, Andrew

866
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 3: could tell you because he's got fans and they're they're listening.

867
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 3: They're listening, and so.

868
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 2: Like, maybe like maybe four things that you're looking for

869
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: in a partner for that's a.

870
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: Really weird number. You could have said three, you would

871
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: have said five.

872
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: But four four four is even number? For is even number?

873
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:20,479
Speaker 1: Sure?

874
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

875
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: I like that.

876
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 2: Well.

877
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 4: One first thing is that you cannot be like anybody else. Oh,

878
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 4: if that makes sense that you're looking for snowflake. I

879
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 4: need you, I need you to be different. I need

880
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 4: you to be unique, and I need you to own

881
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 4: that uniqueness, you know, like, I don't want to be

882
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 4: able to find another you in the in the pile,

883
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 4: you know, because I believe you're not gonna be able

884
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 4: to find another Kalin. So it's like, if you can't

885
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 4: find another me, I don't want to find another you.

886
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,959
Speaker 4: I don't want you to try and look like everybody else,

887
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 4: you know. I want you to be your own individual.

888
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 2: Uh.

889
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 4: Two, you gotta have a strong sense of self and

890
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 4: be very self aware, you know. I need you to

891
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 4: be able to be like, Okay, I messed up here,

892
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 4: let me fix it.

893
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 2: You know.

894
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 4: You have to be able to be willing to grow

895
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 4: and to be able to become a better person. I

896
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 4: don't need you to be perfect on day one, but

897
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 4: I want you to be able to become who you

898
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 4: want to be. And that's what's the point, not even

899
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 4: who I want you to be, who you want to

900
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 4: be and actually put in the motions to make that happen.

901
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 4: Number three, I need you. You don't have to be rich,

902
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 4: but you do have to be working towards.

903
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 3: Something, Okay he said, he said, I'm not taking that potential. Okay,

904
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 3: you potentially have to already be doing something right.

905
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 4: You gotta have some type of dreaming aspiration and putting

906
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 4: everything that you have into it and be willing to

907
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 4: sacrifice everything in order to get everything.

908
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: Sacrifice everything in order to get everything. Okay, all right, okay.

909
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: And number four, number Maria is writing all this stuff

910
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: writing it down.

911
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 4: Number four is and this is like, because as my households, like,

912
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 4: you have to be good with dogs, with dogs, dogs, Yeah, oh.

913
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 2: That's easy, that's easy. I think dogs are easier to

914
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 2: deal with than like cats.

915
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not good with dogs, so that one.

916
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, some people are not good with dogs. And that's

917
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 4: very important to me because my dogs are my life.

918
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 4: Those are my keys. Yeah, they.

919
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 2: Kiss them on the mouth.

920
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 4: Oh no, I don't do all that. I don't kiss

921
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 4: them on the mouth. But I mean, like they're my keys,

922
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 4: they're my my children.

923
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 2: Table food, table food.

924
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 4: They eat human gray food. I don't eat. I don't

925
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 4: feed them table grade. I mean, I don't feed them

926
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 4: from the table, but I feed them human gray food.

927
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 4: So they live very Barbecue for the dogs, it's honey.

928
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 4: We unthawed every single night. We heat it up in

929
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 4: the morning, and we serve it to.

930
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: One you call work and you say you get the

931
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: meat out the freezer.

932
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 4: I came home a day earlier from my vacation because

933
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 4: my dogs were having separation anxiety from me.

934
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 2: Kaylan, you gotta stop. You gotta let them be without you.

935
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 4: They were for now days.

936
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: It could have been ten. Okay, so hold on, let

937
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: me let me write. Let me read what I wrote.

938
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: You need a unique, self aware, not poor, not rich

939
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,479
Speaker 1: person who likes dogs. So in my mind, I feel

940
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: you need like an older like not an like an artist,

941
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: maybe like an architect.

942
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 4: I was about to say that you're like an arch

943
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 4: or a computer tech person.

944
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: Somebody not in the entertainment that's working all.

945
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 4: Way, I gotta add a number five you got you

946
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 4: gotta have some type of intelligence. Intelligence.

947
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 5: Oh.

948
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 4: I love somebody that's book smart, smart, ool smart. But

949
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 4: you gotta have common sense too.

950
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: I thought that was given. Though I thought that was given.

951
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 2: Who doesn't like somebody who's smart.

952
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 4: Have you been to La see? That's things like. You

953
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 4: live in New York, so you're around a whole bunch

954
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 4: of intellectuals. That's why I love New York. I can

955
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 4: have a conversation with New York and we could talk

956
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 4: about some deep ship. You have conversations with here. People

957
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 4: in La. All they talk talking about is who's gonna

958
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 4: win the Ammi the TikTok, and like who's famous and

959
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 4: who they met last week and how they was gonna say.

960
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 4: I don't give a damn about none.

961
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: Of that, Kaylen, you need to come on over here

962
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 2: to define coming and hang out. Yeah, that's yeah, we are,

963
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 2: you know, And you know what, I put my Vemo

964
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 2: card down for us.

965
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: I don't know since he got he got move his

966
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: bestie across the country and.

967
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 4: Pay for I pay for the dinner. No, no, you

968
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 4: go to the SOHO house.

969
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: I love that for us.

970
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 2: Your wait, you're a member.

971
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 4: Oh yes, honey, all houses?

972
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: Oh the intern A card.

973
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 4: I love that for us.

974
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: And you've never bumped into anybody at any of the

975
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: houses that yeah, take four of these boxes.

976
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 4: So this is another bad I don't think I really

977
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 4: pay attention. It's like you got to approach me. I'm

978
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 4: more likely I wan't approach you because I'm just so

979
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 4: focused and into what I'm doing that i don't really

980
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 4: pay attention to my peripherals. And I've never been like

981
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 4: boy crazy, Like I'm not the type of person like

982
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 4: gonn watch it and be like, oh he found or

983
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 4: I need to get his number done. I was never

984
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 4: like that, so it's like you gotta approach me or

985
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 4: say something to me.

986
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Kaitlyn, you missed one hundred percent of the

987
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: shots that you don't take me exactly right.

988
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 2: You're right.

989
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 3: You need to take sports, take off those thick work

990
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 3: glasses and like see some shit. You know, let some

991
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 3: people like like just oh, I love window shopping, you

992
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 3: know what I mean. I already got my clothes on.

993
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 3: I don't need any more clothes, but sometimes it's fun

994
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 3: to look. You know, I'm gay, but I'm not blind.

995
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 3: My eyes deserve this deserves a little eye candy.

996
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: You know. So what that means you be flirting with

997
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: people in the park.

998
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I just like to look like you

999
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 4: see it, you see it?

1000
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 2: Like like, I I never really had a type.

1001
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,959
Speaker 3: I knew what kind of person I kind of wanted,

1002
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 3: but I like, not until a year ago I kind

1003
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 3: of manifested what my type was. I was like, I

1004
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,479
Speaker 3: want this person to look like this. Boom boom boom,

1005
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 3: and then the Lord gave it to me, give.

1006
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,959
Speaker 5: It so amenah, So you know sometimes you you don't

1007
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 5: flirt or know what to look for in a person

1008
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 5: because you don't have that kind of like, oh, this

1009
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 5: is what I want the person to kind of look like,

1010
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 5: uh huh.

1011
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,439
Speaker 1: I'm on the other side of that, I say, flirt

1012
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: with everybody.

1013
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 4: Wait, what's your sign?

1014
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: I'm a libra.

1015
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 4: Oh, Tory is a libra. That's my best friend.

1016
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: That's my best friend.

1017
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 2: Well, Kaylyn, she already has a best friend.

1018
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: You're right, And I mean, but Kaylen, we can go

1019
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: u we can go look for people together.

1020
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: Okay, it's a two for one deal.

1021
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 4: I would I would trust both of you to find

1022
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 4: me a man.

1023
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 2: No, but you know what, Maria is really good when

1024
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 2: let me tell you.

1025
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 3: When she's at the party, she's taking several laps and

1026
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 3: the lapse is for her to look who's in the room,

1027
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 3: what she wants.

1028
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: It's not even it's not even to see what I want.

1029
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: It's just so people can one see what I got on.

1030
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 2: You need her see me her.

1031
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: Okay, she's wearing a luk or she's wearing a week

1032
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: specific to the event, and two so I can see

1033
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: who's in the room. Like sometimes you go out and

1034
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: you sit with your friends you find a little place

1035
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: and you just camp out there, and there's a whole

1036
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: other chunk of the party that one is not seeing

1037
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: you or you're not seeing because y'all didn't move.

1038
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 2: You gotta stop camping.

1039
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 3: Stop coming to the party and camping out in the

1040
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 3: corner and getting all the snacks and just eating the

1041
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 3: snacks like little squirrels.

1042
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: Take take a lap. You see somebody who has something

1043
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: on that you think is cute, male female, compliment them,

1044
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 1: start a conversation. You never know who you're talking to.

1045
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 4: Honestly, now, I will do that and trust and believe

1046
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 4: every time Caitlin steps out the hell he giving a

1047
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 4: look to Oh.

1048
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 2: I believe it. I know you got a hard bottom

1049
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 2: shoe on.

1050
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,240
Speaker 4: Okay, you know it, baby in a good little heel, Okay, at.

1051
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 2: Op it and you know what, you know, a good time.

1052
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 3: You know what else is like when you're with someone

1053
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 3: that's fun, you're automatically going to be laughing loud.

1054
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 2: So people are gonna see that to hear that me

1055
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 2: and Marie are laughing, We're like, we're like the little.

1056
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 3: Hyaenas and lion king laughing. So people sometimes we laugh

1057
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 3: so hard people think we're laughing at them. But it's

1058
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 3: just we are no, no, my gosh, we're nice.

1059
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 2: We're laughing at girl.

1060
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: We're nice. We're nicely laughing at people. Girls.

1061
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 2: My gosh.

1062
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 3: Now, Kaitlin, if you find your partner right and you

1063
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 3: want to start a family, do you think you'll only

1064
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 3: have one kid?

1065
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 2: Oh?

1066
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 4: No, I want more than one.

1067
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, because the going back, well.

1068
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 4: I think what I missed out on was I think family,

1069
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 4: you know, like I missed out on because I see

1070
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 4: like other people and see how close they are with

1071
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 4: their family, and I'm like, I never had that because

1072
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,280
Speaker 4: it was kind of just like me and every everybody

1073
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 4: else was so old and then everybody had like their

1074
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 4: own little, you know, smaller family things, you know, and

1075
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 4: so I don't think I ever got to really experience that.

1076
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 4: And I want my kids to be able to have

1077
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 4: somebody that they can call that you know, knows them

1078
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 4: in through and through, you know. And so I definitely

1079
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 4: want my kids to have siblings.

1080
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think for you it's it's especially important

1081
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 1: to do it this way because you don't really have

1082
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 1: any cousins, right, So, like for most people, your cousins

1083
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: are like your first best friends, right, because especially if

1084
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: you're close in age, So those are also people that

1085
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,240
Speaker 1: you can talk to as like kind of backup siblings.

1086
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, as an only child, they wouldn't. You don't

1087
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: have siblings, so they wouldn't have cousins.

1088
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:49,240
Speaker 4: Oh that's fay, It's okay, we gonna.

1089
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: Work, Okay, So we want to have like three kids?

1090
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: Four kids? Gets you doing four?

1091
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: Four? That's four? That's too many, Kaitlin, that's too many.

1092
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 1: You asked four questions and he wants four.

1093
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 4: Kids, even the exactly that Andrew got it.

1094
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: I see the Beyonce portrait in the back, Yeah, I

1095
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 2: realized I.

1096
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: Was Beyonce in the background the queen. Is that from

1097
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Speaker 1: I Am King?

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Speaker 4: Or yes? Well that was from the London Lion King premiere?

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00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 4: A girl painted on Twitter and I was like, can

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Speaker 4: I buy it from you? And now I bought it

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00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 4: from her?

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Speaker 1: Doesn't it feel good to have money yet?

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00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 2: Him? Yeah, it's a beautiful way.

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00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 3: But I think it's also wonderful to have money when

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00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 3: you were already like you know yourself and you know

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00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 3: what you want and you're not frivolous, and you know

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00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 3: what you deserve and uh, you want to share it.

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00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 3: With you know, a close friend, and you know random

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00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 3: people that you met on the Unofficial Zoom Podcast. Yeah, honestly, exactly, Kaylin.

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Speaker 3: We love I mean, you know what the thing is

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00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 3: that I want to have like a family too, like

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Speaker 3: like you. But I don't think I four is too many,

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00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 3: just because I know that I am learning so much

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00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 3: about myself that I'm still selfish and four kids, that's

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00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 3: a lot I have to give up. It's already a

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00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 3: lot that I have to give up for one that

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Speaker 3: excites me.

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00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 4: It excites you, It excites me. It excites me to

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Speaker 4: be able to work and be able to provide a

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Speaker 4: life and create a legacy for my children, and that

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Speaker 4: by the time I have kids, I've done everything that

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00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 4: I wanted to do. I've lived out all my dreams

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00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 4: and aspirations, and now it's time for me to take

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00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 4: the fruits of my labor and give them to you

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00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 4: so that you can make all your dreams and aspirations

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Speaker 4: school legacy. I've done everything that I want to do,

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00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 4: you know, I don't. Everything I do now is just

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Speaker 4: a bonus.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna cry, Sidney, don't cry.

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00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:46,479
Speaker 2: You should.

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00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 1: What you should do is name your firstborn child legacy.

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00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 2: My first child is going to be kailing Allen the second.

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Speaker 1: Not y'all co parenting.

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00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, you're going to see your father on the weekend.

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Speaker 1: That's really funny. I like legacy, so I wrote it

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00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: down and I put a box around it. Yeah, I

1137
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: don't think that I'm going to have children. I'm on

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00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: the complete opposite.

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00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 2: End of the spectrum as you guys really talk to

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00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 2: us about.

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00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: I don't like kids, And the older I get, the

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00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 1: less I want to think about I gotta I have

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00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: to keep this person alive. Plus I gotta raise them

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00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: to be a good person. Plus I gotta teach them

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00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: how to not pee on themselves and cross the street.

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00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 1: Like it's it seems like a lot you want. You

1147
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: want to raise a happy kid, but you also want

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00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: them to be smart, and then you also have to

1149
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: make sure they don't turn into a serial killer. Like

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00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: that's m I feel like too much work for me.

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00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 3: A lot of weight, a lot of waiters on it,

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00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:47,280
Speaker 3: and we don't really give uh more people more parents

1153
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 3: props when you do meet like really good like your

1154
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 3: parents awesome that they raised such a well rounded, smart

1155
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 3: individual that doesn't need anybody that's handsome, knows how to

1156
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 3: dress and very talented.

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Speaker 1: But thank you so much.

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00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I Marie. I love your parents. I love

1159
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 2: them so much. I'm so glad that you're here. But

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00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 2: you know, to get to where you are and where.

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00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 3: Kaelen is, it's it's I mean, I can't even think

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00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 3: about doing that for someone, right.

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Speaker 1: It is a lot. It is a lot because you

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00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: got to think about it, Like, Kaylyn, what do your

1165
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: parents do?

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00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 2: So?

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00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 4: Actually, my mother works from she don't work anymore. She's

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Speaker 4: at home and I basically take care of her at

1169
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Speaker 4: this point. But she she she used to work in

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Speaker 4: human resources.

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00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 1: Wow, what's your mother's name? A Lois Lois Lois Lois.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I would love a lowist at my job because

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00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 3: I know that when I come with the HR bullshit,

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00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 3: she's gonna get on it. She's gonna have the paperwork

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00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,439
Speaker 3: and she's gonna quickly hold one second what you said.

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Speaker 1: She's gonna say, well, Sydney, what time have you been

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00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: shown up for work?

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Speaker 4: Yep, She'll take care of you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Marie, that's you. That's personal.

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00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: It's just asking alois is asking real questions. You're having

1181
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: a hard time at work. Well, it says here that

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00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: you've been shown up at ten am every day. You

1183
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: know your your shift starts at nine, right, A.

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Speaker 3: Lois I will, Well, I'll say a Lois will the

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00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 3: weight of the world. It stops me from getting to

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Speaker 3: work on time.

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00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: And you know, as a black woman, is that what

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00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: you're saying? You in my office in front of my

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00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 1: portrait of my son?

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, oh my god, yeah, the weight of the world.

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00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, so what's next for you, Caitlin? Like it

1192
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: sounds like I mean, because a lot of people think

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00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: when they think only children, they think spoiled, selfish, bossy,

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00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: not good with talking to people. But it seems like

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00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: you kind of got it figured out.

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00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, so what is Oh, you know, it's way versus depends.

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00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody has it all figured out right, right, right,

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00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 1: right right? What were you saying, Sid?

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, Kayln got a contract that he

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00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 3: just signed. He can't say much about it about his mass.

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00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 4: Well, well, I can say, is I am?

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00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 2: So.

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00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 4: I always knew that I wanted to be on TV.

1204
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 4: I knew that I wanted to be in that space.

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00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 4: I didn't really want to remain in the digital space.

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00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 4: So what I can tell you is that I will

1207
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 4: be on TV in more ways than one.

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00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 3: In my eyes, you were already on TV in more

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00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 3: ways than one. So I'm glad that it's uh in fruition.

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00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 2: So good for you.

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00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: Expand are you the new Indy Williams? How you doing?

1212
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: You do?

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00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 4: Shut it up?

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00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 3: Well, Kaylan, I really really enjoyed this. This was so

1215
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 3: much fun. I really feel like, you know, only children

1216
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 3: do get a bad rap, and you you showed it's

1217
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 3: another way. You showed us the way, the Kaylin Allen way.

1218
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:04,959
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1219
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:06,959
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if you proved anything wrong

1220
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: about but I will say I see you with a

1221
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: cello in the background, and that feels like an only child.

1222
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: That's instrument in the back, uh huh given Like my

1223
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: mom only to buy one instrument and this is the

1224
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: one that she bought. Like my dad had to buy

1225
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: three instruments. So it was like clarinet, saxophone, viola, but

1226
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: big ass cello in the back.

1227
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 4: See I wanted. When I chose, I was like, I

1228
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 4: want the biggest instrument, but I couldn't. The base went

1229
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 4: fit in the car so but the cello did. So

1230
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 4: I picked the chello, So why cello and not tuba?

1231
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 4: Tuba is big as hell? No, yeah, no, I love

1232
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 4: the like the musicality of the string instrument, you know,

1233
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 4: to play in the orchestra. Oh, the melodies.

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00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: Well, then why not choose harp because the harp is

1235
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: bigger than that.

1236
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 4: Oh that's hard though, That's hard to do, and I

1237
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 4: don't know where that heart was gonna go.

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00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: But it's beautiful.

1239
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 5: It is.

1240
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: There's a girl on Instagram who like does covers on

1241
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: her harp and it's just a it's gorgeous. We love anyway, Kaitlyn,

1242
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: you got some stuff in the works. We will be

1243
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: seeing you on TV. Is there anything that you feel

1244
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: like you didn't say that you want to get off

1245
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: your chest about being an only child or the person

1246
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: that you're looking for, or the children you're gonna have

1247
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: named legacy.

1248
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 2: Or the host or the hosts that you just met today.

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00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 5: You know.

1250
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: I love this.

1251
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 4: I think this was a great time. I truly enjoyed it.

1252
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,439
Speaker 4: And I'm telling you, when I come to New York,

1253
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 4: we got to hang out. I'll be there soon, you know,

1254
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 4: filming some things, so we're gonna have to do it.

1255
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: I love this.

1256
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 2: I love this for us.

1257
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: Couragees Sidney, any of the questions that you felt like

1258
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: you need to go off your justice?

1259
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:42,479
Speaker 4: Yes?

1260
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 3: Can you let the people know where you are on

1261
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 3: the Instagrams, the twitters where like if you're on the TikTok.

1262
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: Where they can find Tory?

1263
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I make it very easy. You

1264
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 4: can buy me everywhere at the Kaitlin Allen literally everywhere.

1265
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 4: You just type in at you will find me and

1266
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 4: Tory will be tak and something.

1267
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna friend Tory first.

1268
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 4: I'm like, there you are. Oh you love Torri. You'll

1269
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 4: love each other.

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01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: Yea yeah, okay, Thank you guys so much for listening.

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01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: Oh Andrew, did you have any questions? Because you know

1272
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: I'll see you up there in the little window. No,

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01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: this is so much fun.

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01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming on Kiln.

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01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 4: I love everything that you're doing.

1276
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 2: It is so great to see, uh, you know, a

1277
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 2: more effeminate.

1278
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: Gay man on television. I love that you must get.

1279
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 2: All the time.

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01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: So thank you so much for spending an hour with us.

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01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 4: Of course, thank you.

1282
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 3: Okay, oh wait, oh wait, I needed to plug you know.

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01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 3: My solo show is this Saturday at Union Hall in

1284
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 3: New York City. And Marie is doing a set before

1285
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 3: my for my show.

1286
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 4: So wait, is it comedy.

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01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 2: It's it's a solo show about my about my childhood,

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01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 2: and it is funny.

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01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, okay. And Marie is a stand up

1290
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 3: so yes, comedy is involved. And Andrew is helping me.

1291
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 3: So it's a it's a family affair.

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01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 2: Actually, I love that. Thank you.

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01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: We'll do what we can, you know, we do what

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01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: we can for the community.

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01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 3: Yes, So get those tickets. I mean it's probably already

1296
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 3: sold out by this time. You listen to this, But

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01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 3: what's okay?

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01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: Well you tried?

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01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, bye, Love you guys, Forever.

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01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:31,680
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