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Speaker 1: Oh it is Jason and I'm Rosy Nike and welcome

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Speaker 1: back to x Ray Vision of the podcast where we

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Speaker 1: dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop

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Speaker 1: culture comedy from My Heart podcast. We're bringing you three

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Speaker 1: episodes a week, including.

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Speaker 2: News and this is news.

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Speaker 3: Great, what a fantastic Jason just laid that up for me.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic assist there, because now we're talking about the news.

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Speaker 3: In today's episode, we interestingly will be touching on the

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Speaker 3: fact that Neil Drumman kind of abruptly hinted that the

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Speaker 3: Last of Us might be done at Naughty Dog. We

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Speaker 3: might never get a Last of Us season three. I

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Speaker 3: mean yeah, Last of Us three. We'll be talking about that.

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Speaker 3: Plus we are talking a little bit about the and

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Speaker 3: Or trailer that we just dropped and which the direct

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Speaker 3: wants to direct an alien musical. While we will tell

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Speaker 3: you that too, but first let's talk about the news.

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Speaker 1: First up, new and Or trailer.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 1: It is titled as an official trailer, but really it's

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Speaker 1: kind of a behind the scenes slash Here's what season

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Speaker 1: one was about, Here's what our show is about. Video.

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Speaker 1: It does include some new footage, but I think clearly

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Speaker 1: this trailer that is more than a trailer, is an

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Speaker 1: acknowledgment that hey, people didn't watch and Or even it's

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Speaker 1: great TV, great, great.

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Speaker 2: But they did not have those big Disney numbers.

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Speaker 1: Did not have those big Disney numbers. So how can

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Speaker 1: we get people on board with season two with the

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Speaker 1: idea that they may not they may not even watch

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Speaker 1: season one. So there's a lot of kind of expository

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Speaker 1: information from the talent and from the produce us in

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Speaker 1: this trailer, and it's well worth watching if you're a

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Speaker 1: fan of and.

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Speaker 3: Or, Yeah, it will get you excited. We get glimpses

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Speaker 3: of Saorgerera Forrest whitk.

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Speaker 2: I love that role. I'm so excited to see him back.

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Speaker 3: Alan tudicks K two K two s O if you

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Speaker 3: remember that hilarious droid, we love him. And obviously director

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Speaker 3: Critic as the plans to build the Death Star truly,

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Speaker 3: you know. Begin Also remember this is a very interesting

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Speaker 3: drop schedule they have because each episode will drop with

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Speaker 3: two others. It will be a four week drop, and

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Speaker 3: every single week you get three new episodes which will

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Speaker 3: take place over a different year, leading up to Rogue one,

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Speaker 3: So this is going to be different than and or

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Speaker 3: season one, which I thought it was very slow burn.

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Speaker 2: They are also pushing this idea in the trailer.

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Speaker 3: Genevieve O'Reilly says, who plays Monmothma, and we see her

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Speaker 3: having that crazy party in the trailer. She says, if

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Speaker 3: season one laid the track, then season two is the juggernaut.

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Speaker 3: So I'm very interested to see if this can.

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Speaker 2: Be the big breakout hit. Disney clearly wants it to be.

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Speaker 3: Currently the most expensive Star Wars probably project of all

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Speaker 3: time at over nine six hundred and ninety million dollars. Crazy,

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Speaker 3: but I'm ready to see it. The trailer is good

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Speaker 3: if you want to see behind the scenes. There's definitely

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Speaker 3: could see stuff from Rebels showing up, which Gilroy has

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Speaker 3: it and excited to hit you guys thoughts about it.

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Speaker 2: So definitely hit us side.

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Speaker 1: That's what happens when you have a handsome showrunner with

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Speaker 1: great hair.

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Speaker 2: Tony Gilroy.

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Speaker 1: Great hair, great hair was able to convince Disney to

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Speaker 1: make this massive investment in a.

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Speaker 2: High quality show that.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't at this.

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Speaker 2: Moment have the appeal. This is also proof of great show.

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Speaker 2: It's a great show. It's a great show.

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Speaker 3: You know, we love and Or you can listen to

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Speaker 3: all of our coverage of it that we did for

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Speaker 3: last season. But also Tony Gilroy, right, I feel like

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Speaker 3: he has earned this from Disney because that man is

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Speaker 3: a script doctor who has come in at the last

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Speaker 2: So I think he deserves it.

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Speaker 3: He was so funny when we interviewed him, Jason, I

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Speaker 3: remember you guys really getting into like was it cutting edge,

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Speaker 3: like some really cool I ed ice skating drama.

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Speaker 1: One of the great underrated sports rom coms.

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Speaker 2: Out there, and it's having a resurgence. But yeah, exciting.

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Speaker 1: Next up, in a huge piece in Variety covering Last

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Speaker 1: on HBO, Max Naughty Dog ep Neil Druckman drops a

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Speaker 1: some major bombshells, including that they might not.

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Speaker 3: It might not happen, and it might not even happen

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Speaker 3: for season three, Like it seems like he's not even

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Speaker 3: sure what's going on. I find it very interesting that

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Speaker 3: saying it might not happen, like we mightn't make it happen,

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Speaker 1: It might that might be it. It might be also that,

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Speaker 1: you know, you get the sense that Druckman and Mason

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Speaker 1: it might be that everybody is just kind of be like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: And yeah, that's next. I'm very excited to see season two.

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Speaker 3: And it's interesting because HBO exact, Francesco Orsi was basically hindering,

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Speaker 3: But guess what guys, last of Us and or coming

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Speaker 2: Well, yes, fun.

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Speaker 1: In in shitty news, maybe the you know, continuing shitty

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Speaker 1: news from the outside world. The Trump tariffs on Canada

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Speaker 1: and Mexico will in fact impact the comic book industry

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Speaker 1: at some point. As we have stated on our previous

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Speaker 2: It's very knowledge.

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Speaker 1: Why would you know this, but basically every comic book

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Speaker 3: Is printed by a company called Transcontinental, right, And it's

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Speaker 3: absolutely wild to me that we're in a situation where

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Speaker 1: Yes, so Transcontinental has said that quote. Despite the emphatic

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Speaker 1: will absorb the tariff costs for the next ninety days,

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Speaker 1: basically so that American publishers can kind of figure out

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Speaker 1: like what their next steps are. But you know, ninety days,

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Speaker 1: have to see what happens next. And it is seems

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Speaker 1: quite likely that all your printed materials are.

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Speaker 2: Going to get going up in price.

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Speaker 3: Okay, in the very absorbing the cost for ninety days

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Speaker 3: and that all happened in easily around three months. That

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Speaker 3: They're going to impact trades because pretty much every trade

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Speaker 3: This is how the comic was made. I thought there

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Speaker 3: was a great quote from cbr Jason that you had

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Speaker 3: I don't bring up being English much and England has

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Speaker 3: so you can still get them. But those are going

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Speaker 2: But yeah, living through interesting times, oh my god, never stop.

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Speaker 2: Mickey seventeen next.

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