WEBVTT - Episode 7 - At The Table

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<v Speaker 1>The way the card tells run is that you have

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<v Speaker 1>the bosses, but then you have people right underneath them.

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<v Speaker 1>There's the everyday people. We were blessed for a personality

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<v Speaker 1>that chopped my or They really liked us. They liked us,

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<v Speaker 1>they looked at us like their sons and treats like family.

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<v Speaker 1>But then the underlings was it like the right people?

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the people we could sit here like you

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<v Speaker 1>and chap it up and say oh this whatever the cases,

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<v Speaker 1>they were more ruthless than then the bosses. They're a

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<v Speaker 1>little more rufless than the thing. Like I think my

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<v Speaker 1>test with the King, yeah it might be a little

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<v Speaker 1>more under but there the judges, you go on your

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<v Speaker 1>bag and independing on how if they believe you're not,

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<v Speaker 1>that's your faith. There's a difference between being part of

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<v Speaker 1>it and being in it. We were in it, of

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<v Speaker 1>course St. Jackson, and I'm Charlie Webster and this is

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<v Speaker 1>surviving old Chapel. That's once you brought down a drug load.

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<v Speaker 1>Pete had just been held hostage for over twenty days,

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<v Speaker 1>handcuffed in a tiny room, starved and left for dead.

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<v Speaker 1>He thought he would never see his twin brother Jay again.

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<v Speaker 1>The kidnapping haunts Pete to this day and he still

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<v Speaker 1>suffers liver problems because of it. Ja managed to secure

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<v Speaker 1>Pete release just in the nick of time before it

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<v Speaker 1>was too late for Pete. But what now? They just

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<v Speaker 1>met the biggest drug lord in the world, l Chapo.

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<v Speaker 1>If it were me, I'd pick it in and leave

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<v Speaker 1>it all right there. But to be honest, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>that easy to live their life. It becomes your identity

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<v Speaker 1>and you start to gets who you are without it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes that vulnerability makes you hold on to what you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even when it's not good for you. My brother and

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<v Speaker 1>I never burned our names of when it came to

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<v Speaker 1>like paying people back. That mattered a lot. When ship

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<v Speaker 1>hits a fan and you're kidnap, you survived that. What

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<v Speaker 1>happened next? Did you think about walking away from this

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<v Speaker 1>and stopping this? Was that? Was that enough for you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna find a way out, like because facing that,

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<v Speaker 1>facing back down or reality of that life, Like everyone

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<v Speaker 1>thinks it's not gonna happened to them. If you believe that,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you're not still not you know, at a

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<v Speaker 1>level where with much importance. But eventually everyone in the

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<v Speaker 1>life suffers I'm kind of a traumatic experience. That's something

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<v Speaker 1>the final way of craft to find a way out

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<v Speaker 1>because that's done that I can't live with that much

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<v Speaker 1>of here that I had that you were only two

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<v Speaker 1>two and look what's happened to me? And thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>those regrets, like what would I regret? He started coming

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<v Speaker 1>to my mind about what would I regret that I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do? You know, besides what I said about wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to be a better man, I wanted to get some

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<v Speaker 1>one of my best and putting my eagle to the

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<v Speaker 1>side and being vulnerable like you know, getting married, I said.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to get married like I'm a real in

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<v Speaker 1>a church and the chapel somewhere. I want to do

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<v Speaker 1>everything correct. I want to at least you know that

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<v Speaker 1>my wife knew when I was a faithful husband and

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<v Speaker 1>and keeping my bed us and for everyone else thinks,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like the people matter to me. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be better everything, a better brother. I want to be.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't ething change. I think a lot of teams changed.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a little more serious about Mabeana and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to keep him my beds, putting my eagle to the side,

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<v Speaker 1>like my dreamer relationships. It changed a lot of way

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<v Speaker 1>of thinking, but it didn't change my business. The scenarios

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<v Speaker 1>where we go through something instead of us getting like

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<v Speaker 1>every time you sure we're gonna move away, we come

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<v Speaker 1>back stronger. It's weird because it happened again. Peter healing

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<v Speaker 1>afterwards was like it was payingful to watch. We would

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<v Speaker 1>have to keep him in the room but the doors

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<v Speaker 1>closed and all the lights off, and we would have

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<v Speaker 1>to cover the little cry under the door because the

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<v Speaker 1>light would hurt his eyes because he was blindfolded. He

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<v Speaker 1>was just so weak. We didn't want my mother not

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<v Speaker 1>to see him, and we had to get him help,

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<v Speaker 1>medical help and just make sure like okay and stay

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<v Speaker 1>still his liver problems. But more than anything, I just

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<v Speaker 1>feel like the trauma that he went through feel like

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of hidden died. And it breaks my heart

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<v Speaker 1>because it just changed him so much. But our life

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<v Speaker 1>certainly changed in so many ways after that can happen.

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<v Speaker 1>At first we thought it was like we probably felt

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<v Speaker 1>like it was a blessing. Believe or not, they get

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<v Speaker 1>nothing elevated your business. Now it's like now what to us,

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<v Speaker 1>like we were already like scraping the ceiling of what

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<v Speaker 1>you actually get capable of? To me, what else could

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<v Speaker 1>you do that? Right? Still, no matter what I think,

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<v Speaker 1>me and my brothers were still us, like we could

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<v Speaker 1>separate the business between who we were as as people.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean by that? Could you say that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot? You say that you could, but you was

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<v Speaker 1>still yourselves, You still yourselves, You could separate these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I feel like when it was business time it

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<v Speaker 1>was business time? Like I was like this certain way

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe my percentage the way I was. But when

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<v Speaker 1>it was like when that wasn't there, I was just normal. H.

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<v Speaker 1>I never really consider myself to be a boss, like

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<v Speaker 1>not a boss like that, Like I could boss people

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<v Speaker 1>around a lot, and I could have been bossy at times,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, but I never considered myself like I always

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<v Speaker 1>looked at everybody as equal as friends, equals everyone. Peter

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<v Speaker 1>came back and it was like it was just all business.

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<v Speaker 1>His mentality was never again. So in a way, it

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<v Speaker 1>was almost like the business and focusing on business was

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<v Speaker 1>to create that power and protection and safety and actually

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<v Speaker 1>protects safety, but it consumed him power and maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>ever be in a situation where we couldn't pay something

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't. It was just like again this spiral right

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<v Speaker 1>going back into the psycho was just I cant understand

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<v Speaker 1>that that makes sense. Everything like he did was just business, business,

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<v Speaker 1>business that he wanted to stopic had just consumed him,

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<v Speaker 1>like it became his obsession, like it helped him deal

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<v Speaker 1>with his trumpma, just like being consumed in his work.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the way he dealt with it. His mentality

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<v Speaker 1>was like, they have to do more. They have to grow,

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<v Speaker 1>they have to scale their business, they have to be bigger,

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<v Speaker 1>they have to be better, they have to be this

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<v Speaker 1>almost eight state of perfection. He micro managed everything and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody wasn't about the drugs. It was about the business

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<v Speaker 1>that I think he felt like it was his and

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<v Speaker 1>it's what we're supposed to do. And in his said,

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<v Speaker 1>the only way we're going to be okay and be

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<v Speaker 1>saved us and not have a problemise that by being

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<v Speaker 1>who we were. Now. You know, we went from being

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<v Speaker 1>in that position until a couple of weeks later like

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<v Speaker 1>now we're at the table with the biggest drugg lords

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<v Speaker 1>and they love us. And where that comes to project

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<v Speaker 1>and protection and celebrations and a life that no one

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<v Speaker 1>could have dreamed though he's in that situation where before

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<v Speaker 1>it was like he was that someone's mercy and now

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<v Speaker 1>everyone said basically said kissing and I has. Basicly, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying that they needed us. I'm just saying at

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<v Speaker 1>that point we're valuable and people are like I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard for them to understand that we are who

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<v Speaker 1>we are. We understood who we were, you know you

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<v Speaker 1>and both said to me that caught out. Life became

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<v Speaker 1>very crazy. And like I said in the beginning, I

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<v Speaker 1>think falling into men your idols and do the business

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<v Speaker 1>with him, getting the respect was everything. But with that

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<v Speaker 1>came a lot of responsibility. I think our life changed

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<v Speaker 1>drastically overnight. I know they were like always you know,

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<v Speaker 1>her business was always you know, priority, But I think

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<v Speaker 1>that it was just a lot and there was just

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<v Speaker 1>so many new people around us, and men and night

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<v Speaker 1>so much. Who's going to protect us better than the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest drug lords in the world. They welcomed using with

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<v Speaker 1>open arms. I still remember you know Mile saying, now

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<v Speaker 1>no one touches you around. My pression it was like

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<v Speaker 1>you belong to damn. It's like, no, we are them

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<v Speaker 1>and the mecca of drug lords in present time, the

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<v Speaker 1>drug lords that we know about its Chapel mile. At

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<v Speaker 1>that time, we were important ted damn. At that time

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<v Speaker 1>we had access two more drugs I think than anyone

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<v Speaker 1>else because of who we were as in our personalities,

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<v Speaker 1>how we carry ourselves, the vulnerable part of us was

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<v Speaker 1>able to be able to do business with different bosses

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time. And I think there was a

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<v Speaker 1>turning point. I think we recognized that just being there,

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<v Speaker 1>like they're eating no one else there that's like us,

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<v Speaker 1>We're the only ones becoming the biggest cocaine suppliers or

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<v Speaker 1>distributors because the distributors for the seeing a little cartel.

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<v Speaker 1>After my kidnapping, like I came out a different personnel.

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<v Speaker 1>The things were real, and it was like here, Mexico

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<v Speaker 1>is like a whole different world than Chicago. Then, like

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at him in a whole different light. I

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<v Speaker 1>came out like just like knowing exactly what I really

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<v Speaker 1>wanted with all my heart. I remember just having those

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<v Speaker 1>raw emotions in my heart, like in my inside of myself,

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<v Speaker 1>like I wanted just to be good to me, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to try to be genuinely good to someone,

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<v Speaker 1>like I had someone that deserved that my very best.

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<v Speaker 1>So we took a walk on the beach. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>we're taking a long walks. I'm looking for the sea

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<v Speaker 1>turtles and I got on both my knees next, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I like to explain to her how seriously was that.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to ask her to please be my wife

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<v Speaker 1>and to spend there are still her life with me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And I remember like talking to like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how long that is, but whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I want to spend it with feutre m h.

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<v Speaker 1>And when she was like I really like, of course

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<v Speaker 1>I will, you know, Like I was like no, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I really wanted to do it. I remember we were

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<v Speaker 1>like at their little moment there and you know, on

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<v Speaker 1>tho the stars and on the beach, and I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like there's no one wrong. Remember us rushing back to

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<v Speaker 1>the house and like going and called the wedding planet

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<v Speaker 1>and looking at the calendar. At the same time, we

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<v Speaker 1>looked at the kind of and we're like, what's a

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<v Speaker 1>good time, And then we gave ourselves like a month

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<v Speaker 1>and were it was like a month and a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days. So we're like, I think that's the day

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<v Speaker 1>that like Saturday, and it was fun to like try

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<v Speaker 1>that went together. Getting married for the new beginning FORLS

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<v Speaker 1>was like really leaving all the past in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>Like whatever happened before they was like behind us, and

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<v Speaker 1>that we're, you know, gonna even wanted something better, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and holding no score cards and like just were he

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<v Speaker 1>started zero and give it a real chance, give it

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<v Speaker 1>a real chance to like, we're a chance to love

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<v Speaker 1>each other and to be there and commit to each other.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't wait for the day. And then here I am,

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<v Speaker 1>you're making my own wedding plans, about to go get married,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a knock at the door. And we were

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<v Speaker 1>at our home at that time, and everyone was at

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<v Speaker 1>the hotel the day of the wedding. The makeup artist

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<v Speaker 1>they just left. I was in the room, Peter, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>it was any other room, and the employees were in

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<v Speaker 1>the house and there's a knock on door, and I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure the chef opened the door and he

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<v Speaker 1>comes to the hay. There's cops here, you know. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like what, and it's like, there's cops. He that's

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<v Speaker 1>a man. They come in and one of the cops

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<v Speaker 1>is like the immigration agent that it worked like for

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<v Speaker 1>each way of the sub division of Cominium, like where

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<v Speaker 1>the houses were, you know, he took care of the

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<v Speaker 1>long work and all that. And he comes in and

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<v Speaker 1>I seem my recognize him. He worked as a at

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<v Speaker 1>the airport as well. They come in. It's like three

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<v Speaker 1>year four of moment with them, and I see the

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<v Speaker 1>main agent. They kind of like came in like okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to talk to you, and he's like, where

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<v Speaker 1>were the federal police. He has like a vanilla you know,

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<v Speaker 1>file folder and he's like, look, man, oh things a

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<v Speaker 1>file for Then I see my wanton fiction. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the heck. I hear Peter, and I hear his

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<v Speaker 1>tone and his voice like I can sell, like just

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<v Speaker 1>even with the door closed, like his tone and his voice,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hear others speaking, but I hear Peter a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more angered in his tone. I picked out

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<v Speaker 1>the door and I see, I see Peter there, and

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<v Speaker 1>I see the agents, and I see the chef and

0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:36.240
<v Speaker 1>I see the fowler and he has Peter and Jay's

0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:42.720
<v Speaker 1>wanted photo. I'm like looking and I'm listening and I'm listening,

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<v Speaker 1>and the chef seeing me, and he's like get back

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<v Speaker 1>in the room, get back in the room. So I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't waste no all time. I grabbed like all the phones.

0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:57.240
<v Speaker 1>All the phones were in the room, so I grab

0:18:57.320 --> 0:19:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I was fifty phones, and I just started throwing them

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<v Speaker 1>out the window. And I propped myself on a vanity chair.

0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:11.720
<v Speaker 1>So I had my big dress and I was were

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go. We were so ready to wh I

0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:20.280
<v Speaker 1>have my shoes on, my big princess ball gown. It

0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:23.359
<v Speaker 1>was like multi layered. It was so heavy, like it

0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:26.520
<v Speaker 1>was already heavy. I put it on, and I'm just

0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:31.960
<v Speaker 1>like running through the room with this heavy dress. I

0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:35.520
<v Speaker 1>have my heels on and and I'm just thinking, you

0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:38.200
<v Speaker 1>know about I'm thinking, I gotta get rid of the phones,

0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:43.120
<v Speaker 1>and I gotta get rid of the ledgers. So I

0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:45.359
<v Speaker 1>propped myself on the vanity chair and I was just

0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:47.639
<v Speaker 1>throwing all the phones in the bush. We had like

0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:51.760
<v Speaker 1>huge bushes on the side of the house. And I'm

0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:55.879
<v Speaker 1>just like putting I'm like throwing the ledgers. I'm thinking,

0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:57.919
<v Speaker 1>like should I rip the ledgers? What should I do?

0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:00.800
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, no, I can't do at either. And

0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm like throwing everything out the window, and I'm I'm

0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:10.879
<v Speaker 1>like mind you. I'm like scared. I know either he

0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:14.040
<v Speaker 1>was going to jail today or something bad was going

0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:36.600
<v Speaker 1>to happen. The main agent tells me, look, man, these

0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:40.480
<v Speaker 1>governments on the way to come and get you. I

0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:43.280
<v Speaker 1>didn't understand that. It wasn't like a little later that

0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:46.760
<v Speaker 1>most were discussing them that I didn't see that they

0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:49.159
<v Speaker 1>had a convoy of trucks out there, like it was

0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:52.480
<v Speaker 1>like forty trucks. Like I'm thinking, there's four guys coming in,

0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:58.200
<v Speaker 1>like you're out your mind. I didn't see that afterwards

0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:01.320
<v Speaker 1>that they already had the house that kind of surround

0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:06.879
<v Speaker 1>him and there's there, you know, either blocked me up

0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:13.640
<v Speaker 1>or start they're gonna leave with something. He's like, looking, man,

0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:15.840
<v Speaker 1>look at I'm telling you right now, you're you're going

0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:19.359
<v Speaker 1>back to the United States. The feather coming from the

0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:22.399
<v Speaker 1>marshy coming for you. And then he showed me the

0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:25.439
<v Speaker 1>phone and it's like an unavailable called the Idea, you know,

0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:29.879
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, that's damn calling me. And I'm like, okay,

0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:31.600
<v Speaker 1>so what do you want? Why are you telling me this?

0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:35.200
<v Speaker 1>What what do you want to do? What do you want?

0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Just tell me what you want. I'm like, now, we're

0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:39.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of like back and forth, like you're here, obviously

0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:41.280
<v Speaker 1>you're you know, you're ready to do something. What do

0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:44.560
<v Speaker 1>you want? I believe he tells me, you're like a

0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:47.840
<v Speaker 1>million and a half dollars. In my head, I'm thinking,

0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:52.760
<v Speaker 1>like I don't have a million dollars right And I said,

0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:55.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, to this my wedding day, like you obviously

0:21:55.800 --> 0:22:01.679
<v Speaker 1>know that I'm stressed, though you know, I'm sad. At

0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the same time, it's like the worst thing that could

0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:11.720
<v Speaker 1>ever happen, like all our families there all this like

0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:20.879
<v Speaker 1>and here we're gonna go with this, like and I

0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:24.760
<v Speaker 1>remember telling him, look, man, I can't give him and

0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I have dollars right now, I said, I got some money,

0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:33.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, I got a lot of expenses. Take what

0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I have to give you right now, which was like

0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:40.080
<v Speaker 1>three or whatever it was. I said, I could give

0:22:40.119 --> 0:22:42.679
<v Speaker 1>you that. I said, and uh, I'm gonna keep the

0:22:42.680 --> 0:22:44.720
<v Speaker 1>rest of mine to make my expenses from my wedding.

0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:51.680
<v Speaker 1>If you're a patient, I could give you the rest

0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:56.439
<v Speaker 1>of the money. And right away he was like I

0:22:56.440 --> 0:22:59.800
<v Speaker 1>could see him kind of get a little comfortable. They think, okay,

0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:02.119
<v Speaker 1>we're we do have a pain day. Come in regardless.

0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:05.520
<v Speaker 1>You look at the marshes are called them, they're called

0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:07.760
<v Speaker 1>um you know. And now I was like there are

0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:09.480
<v Speaker 1>tones a little more like, well, what do you want

0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:14.800
<v Speaker 1>to do it? Yeah, because you're wasting my time and

0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:20.120
<v Speaker 1>you can't give me more minutes. I can't that. I'm

0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:22.440
<v Speaker 1>not gonna do that. I said, take what I'm offering

0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:25.800
<v Speaker 1>you and let me go on enjoy my wedding. Man,

0:23:26.720 --> 0:23:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I said, we planned to stay for a long time

0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:33.159
<v Speaker 1>and my wife's upset. Don't ruin this day for me.

0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:39.800
<v Speaker 1>And he was like within like cooperating. He was like

0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:44.600
<v Speaker 1>he's looking at the other agent and he's like, yeah,

0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:46.680
<v Speaker 1>we can do that. How long would you need to

0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:48.560
<v Speaker 1>get to the money? I'm like, can you let me

0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:51.239
<v Speaker 1>enjoy it? Let me get through this weekend and now

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:54.960
<v Speaker 1>we could talk, you know. I said, but what's the

0:23:55.000 --> 0:23:58.239
<v Speaker 1>guarantee that you're not going to take me? Like, man,

0:23:58.280 --> 0:24:00.320
<v Speaker 1>if I wanted to think you would have been the right.

0:24:01.440 --> 0:24:04.399
<v Speaker 1>But he's like, I'll tell you what. I'll take a

0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:08.720
<v Speaker 1>phone from you and I guarantee that, and if you

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:13.000
<v Speaker 1>have any trouble, I'm gonna help you. If I know

0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:17.600
<v Speaker 1>that they're coming, I'm gonna get rid of them, and

0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:21.280
<v Speaker 1>I was like that's fair. I keep thinking I could

0:24:21.320 --> 0:24:24.320
<v Speaker 1>I get a waste, you know, like there's no fucking

0:24:24.359 --> 0:24:31.879
<v Speaker 1>way of getting away twenty thirty federal police trucks and

0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:34.640
<v Speaker 1>remember we live like on the beach and there's hotels

0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:36.119
<v Speaker 1>next me. I'm thinking like that I get down the

0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:40.600
<v Speaker 1>beach and like get away. And it was like I

0:24:40.640 --> 0:24:42.199
<v Speaker 1>really kind of have them there, so I was like,

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:45.399
<v Speaker 1>they don't worry. I'm we're fixing it. Don't worry. It's

0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:55.560
<v Speaker 1>just relaxed. My dream I knew dreams, Like I just

0:24:55.640 --> 0:25:04.560
<v Speaker 1>got married. I was like shattered, like this, we're just

0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:08.560
<v Speaker 1>grabbing the money, just giving something like that, just here's

0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:14.440
<v Speaker 1>the money, and them just like smiling with their eyes

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:17.320
<v Speaker 1>at it. You know, like I think it's pretty bad.

0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:25.760
<v Speaker 1>It's just kind of like okay, now, ye get the

0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:38.040
<v Speaker 1>funk out of here. I was mortified that if something

0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:40.680
<v Speaker 1>were to happen when everybody's there, Yeah, I was scared.

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Did you think about counseling it? Because what's also crossing

0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:51.480
<v Speaker 1>my mind is that you've got everyone in one place,

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:55.359
<v Speaker 1>so they could take you all out. I did, but

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I didn't, like I wasn't gonna let that one This

0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:00.560
<v Speaker 1>day for me. No more like guy, I feel like

0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:04.480
<v Speaker 1>if they wanted to take to take, but I could

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:07.040
<v Speaker 1>tell you again the greeting them that they wanted the money.

0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:15.359
<v Speaker 1>This is common in like that's what they do. They're

0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 1>working for some money there, They're not doing that other

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:22.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, the right thing to do. We did have

0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:26.440
<v Speaker 1>a beautiful, a beautiful wedding and you know, a beautiful

0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:31.120
<v Speaker 1>celebration just the whole just all the days that everyone

0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:36.160
<v Speaker 1>was you know, we're all together and just celebrating each

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:38.840
<v Speaker 1>other and you know, celebrating with our family and our

0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:44.439
<v Speaker 1>family like truly happy for us. And then it was

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:50.119
<v Speaker 1>like we had this thing this over our head the

0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:56.560
<v Speaker 1>whole time. I remember just like like really like talking

0:26:56.640 --> 0:26:58.480
<v Speaker 1>myself through to just let that go and just have

0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:01.640
<v Speaker 1>a good time. I thinking about just seeing and walk

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 1>down and come around the corner and help you drive.

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:09.879
<v Speaker 1>It boke me And that was emotional, right, And this

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:11.639
<v Speaker 1>is someone who wants to spend the rest of my life.

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:13.119
<v Speaker 1>It's the one that means the world to me. Hi

0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:23.040
<v Speaker 1>in such a beautiful moment, like in those moments of

0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:26.919
<v Speaker 1>of joy are like truly like magnified because of so

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:33.119
<v Speaker 1>much juggling and bad moments and right I had to

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 1>go pick up my phones and cleaner. We're late. Yeah,

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:41.400
<v Speaker 1>when I get the phone and the ledgers, and then

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking to myself like, thank goodness, I didn't ripped

0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:47.800
<v Speaker 1>the ledgers because that was all that they They had

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 1>to all their accounting. So it was like one event

0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 1>like right after another. It was it was a wedding

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:02.359
<v Speaker 1>and not have to move all my family form our town.

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 1>And this is crazy, man. And you see the pattern,

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 1>like we couldn't even we couldn't celebrate our our marriage,

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:21.320
<v Speaker 1>we couldn't honeymoon. There was just like this ugly pattern

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 1>of ups and downs for us. It was clear that

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:57.440
<v Speaker 1>the authorities knew exactly where the Florest family lived, so

0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 1>to avoid detection and further extortion, the entire family picked

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 1>up and moved their lives to a different part of Mexico.

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 1>This happened a lot at times. They had to just

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 1>drop everything and leave at a moment's notice, with food

0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 1>in the fridge and clothes left in the dryer. The

0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 1>only thing they would take is family photos so that

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:23.400
<v Speaker 1>they couldn't be identified. It did help that money wasn't

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 1>really an issue for the twins. The kidnapping might have

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 1>been hard mentally, but it was a blessing for the business.

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Jay's unexpected meeting meant that the twins were now dealing

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 1>directly with Chapo himself, But first Pete had to meet

0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 1>the man that gave the order to kidnap him. What

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 1>was the first impression when you met Chapoo at the Starstruck?

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I was a ners I phone to me, like, you know,

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 1>because you never know part of me. It was like comfortable,

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:03.880
<v Speaker 1>like that wasn't that whoever? I had just been released

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 1>from my kidnapping, so it was really like why, I know,

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to kill me. They want to kill me.

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 1>They would have killed me. I kind of felt that

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 1>I was still like a little bit on edge, and

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 1>everything makes you honage when you're there. You know. It's

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:22.920
<v Speaker 1>like they all these guns and stuff for a reason.

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm a future too, and I'm thinking that man, something

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 1>happens here. I'm here, I'm done. So many things can

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 1>go wrong, you know, one bad conversation or one bad disagreement.

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 1>They said he started wars. They killed thousands of people

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>for someone not shaking his hand. That's all. And one

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 1>of my first ever like main direct vials we ever

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:56.240
<v Speaker 1>did with the people. I'm like, literally, we meet my

0:30:56.480 --> 0:31:00.160
<v Speaker 1>and bobad, we meet Chap, we're all sitting down. There's

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of like all both connects there. So I

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:09.400
<v Speaker 1>remember saying that and like chilly, nervous, sonny some mother man,

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 1>you might have I say something to you. I just

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 1>gotta like you might have I talk to you how quick?

0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 1>I want to say something to you, like yeah, tell

0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 1>me Like, look, man, we've been in business for a

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 1>long time together, you know, maybe not directly, but to

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 1>other people. Unfortunately, events led me to this Pasfring. I

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 1>just wanted the chance to do the work directly a

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 1>few without no mental man, without nobody putting my life

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 1>in danger. He laughs, Like I remember you said, I

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:41.120
<v Speaker 1>want to be responsible for my own life from all life.

0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 1>So he said, He's like, you know what you've earned it,

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 1>you got to comment from now. And you my people

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I got. I want everyone to know you, my people.

0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:53.800
<v Speaker 1>They messed to their mess with me. You like, you're

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna get whatever I give. Whatever I sell the tee

0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 1>look for, I'm gonna give them to the same press

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 1>that give them to my main people, right, And just

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 1>like that, like I found there's something killos you want

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 1>to and we're picking up on the killos like an

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 1>hour and a half later. Okay, And remember before we left,

0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 1>I said, hold on, hold on, I don't think I

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 1>could pay for these right now. He lies, like, don't

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 1>worry about your words. Good enough. We started relationship. I

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 1>remember about like one of the first meetings, like I

0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 1>heard about you guys, and I didn't want to meet you,

0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 1>like I was expecting some six foot talk ugly dark antle.

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 1>I was scared, like I don't know. We didn't want

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:40.520
<v Speaker 1>to they shoot me. That's I'm by seven, we're both seven.

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm with Minabada, which is pro abt of people don't know.

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:49.760
<v Speaker 1>It's the head of the Sinattle card Toil along with

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 1>the chapel. He's been the boss for the last forty

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 1>years and he's never been arrested. He's the man May

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 1>is still the head of the Cinelo A cartel. He's

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 1>still never been caught. He's currently in hiding and the

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:08.480
<v Speaker 1>reward for his capture was recently tripled to a fifty

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 1>million dollar bounty. While Chapo was only ever referred to

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 1>as Dad and Daddy, my own Beltran were known as

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Aunt or uncle. He and Chapo would often meet with

0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:24.640
<v Speaker 1>the twins in Gougla, can and they became like family.

0:33:28.800 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 1>When I traveled, I traveled with a school back big

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:37.719
<v Speaker 1>school bed. We're are my books that we had for

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 1>the last three years. My alledgers so like a rook stack,

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 1>a regular backpackerone's going to school like students, students. And

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 1>our notebooks were like school notebooks. Do you record single

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 1>thing you did? Allegers do head of note books and

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 1>they were heavy, like you know, it was heavy. Mayo

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:10.279
<v Speaker 1>agree to me with a the nark On handshake? What's

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:16.480
<v Speaker 1>the Northern hand shake? Yeah, and it's not that's a

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:19.239
<v Speaker 1>hand shake that's going to part on the back. Then

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:22.319
<v Speaker 1>another handshake. It has to be like that. You do that,

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:26.400
<v Speaker 1>You do that million times all day. You do this

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:31.239
<v Speaker 1>in roll and listen if there's tad back or you

0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:33.719
<v Speaker 1>could do and your side. You're gonna do it to everyone,

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 1>every single one, like like how many times you put

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 1>on the but is it like two times? Two times

0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:41.880
<v Speaker 1>like a little dad. And then it doesn't have to

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:43.399
<v Speaker 1>be the heart of My brother just wants to kind

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:46.799
<v Speaker 1>of put his hands on me. It's a nice gentle. Yeah,

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 1>it's like they do it like a bunch of times.

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 1>But I've seen like regularly, like maybe older gentlemen do

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:54.759
<v Speaker 1>it to each other. And what's weird that you do

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 1>this so many times? At first I was like giving dad, okay,

0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:00.719
<v Speaker 1>all right, something some you know the times we will

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:05.880
<v Speaker 1>be like hey, pallet or the Mexican Yeah, that was

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:10.600
<v Speaker 1>like your typical boom were younger in Mexico. And then

0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 1>a fist right. Jay learns a very quick lesson and

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 1>how important the handshake is to the Cineloma cartel bosses.

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 1>When he went to meet Mayo. It means so much

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 1>more than just a hug, a handshake and a few

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:39.840
<v Speaker 1>gentle pats on the back. And you know, I'm somewhere

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:44.040
<v Speaker 1>in the mountains of Durrango somewhere, and Mayo had like

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:48.840
<v Speaker 1>dirty forty guys with him. I'm a little bit on

0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:51.319
<v Speaker 1>a hill and he's at the bottom of the hill

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 1>and there's a street, you know, light stream, you know rocks.

0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:58.839
<v Speaker 1>He has a boot in the stream and he has

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:02.879
<v Speaker 1>the only one on top of the rock. You're like, hey,

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 1>what they come on? Comes like add and you come down.

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Don't worry. You can buy a new clothes. You get dirty.

0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:15.839
<v Speaker 1>They always would joke about that. I come and as

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:18.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm coming down, you know, I familiar faces. I don't

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:23.359
<v Speaker 1>want all their names. Shook two or four people's hands,

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Marco handshake, and myle he's there, like across the street

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:32.960
<v Speaker 1>and they're all like right here and right there on

0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 1>each side. Yeah, like kind of listening to him talk.

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:42.759
<v Speaker 1>And there's guys a little bit farther out. I'm like, hey,

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 1>what's up whatever, Like you know, greening, Like if you

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:48.319
<v Speaker 1>come into a club and everyone knows you, like, but

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:51.319
<v Speaker 1>we're in the damn mountaintops with a bunch of drug boards, right.

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:57.920
<v Speaker 1>I made the mistake of saying, well, he's important. When

0:36:57.960 --> 0:36:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I come to you, everybody stands back. So I listened

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:02.840
<v Speaker 1>to year four and just like twelve more here and

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 1>probably and more. I go straight through the stream to

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:12.759
<v Speaker 1>Rocks and I went to greet him, and he'd like,

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:15.640
<v Speaker 1>straight to my to my own. He looks at me,

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't give me a shake. He kind of grabbed

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 1>my hand. He says, my friends are not important enough.

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:28.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, sir, I thought about it. I'm sorry. I

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:31.000
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to get you first. He said, here, we're

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:35.520
<v Speaker 1>all the same, and I said please, I said, apologizing

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:39.439
<v Speaker 1>this man, It's like, don't worry, don't worry, sent me back,

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:43.239
<v Speaker 1>shake every my hand. They're like, don't worrybody, don't worry,

0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:46.000
<v Speaker 1>like it's okay in there. And when he shook everybody's hand,

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 1>he took me like probably seven minutes. He just watched me.

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:53.879
<v Speaker 1>Once I got some, he shook my hand. And when

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:55.319
<v Speaker 1>I went to that, when he gave me a good

0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:58.359
<v Speaker 1>hug like how are you? You know he's hugged me tight,

0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:00.080
<v Speaker 1>like how are you? I'm like, I'm good, sir that

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I always served, No sir, yes sir. People like was

0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:07.399
<v Speaker 1>your brother Like I'm like, yeah, you know him, and

0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 1>they'll be like you you know, they'll call him a

0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 1>kiss as like yeah, you know him, he's for his wife.

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:15.880
<v Speaker 1>There's a time where we were all invited, you know,

0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 1>during the first meetings that yeah, you guys, aren't you

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:25.400
<v Speaker 1>joined this orgy? And literally when blind gift the women

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:31.800
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I'm sorry, remember you know I'm married.

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:34.359
<v Speaker 1>He's like instead of laughing, like you're a better man

0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 1>than I am. I'm married too, like two or three

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:41.080
<v Speaker 1>times and he's just laughed. But I think that no

0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 1>matter what they respected that point of view. We're not

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:48.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna change your our ways because you know, the man

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:50.279
<v Speaker 1>was there, you know. But even if he offered me

0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:54.920
<v Speaker 1>a line of cold were and I don't know drugs, now,

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:57.200
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna skip that part. They respected at the point

0:38:57.200 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 1>wherever we said no, we said no. The okay with

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 1>that chap giving me calling me one day, he said,

0:39:11.520 --> 0:39:14.240
<v Speaker 1>I really really respect you guys and everything guys doing.

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, I have my son who I want to

0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:21.319
<v Speaker 1>send to you, and I want you to teach him.

0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:23.640
<v Speaker 1>You don't show him. I want my son to like

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:26.440
<v Speaker 1>be like you guys, like the businessmen you guys are.

0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:31.399
<v Speaker 1>That was like the biggest compliment ever. Like he said,

0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:36.680
<v Speaker 1>he wants to be like me, And I'm like, wow, man, yes,

0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 1>whatever you want. Yeah, he says, So I'm gonna send

0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:43.440
<v Speaker 1>them to you. Just do me a favor, help him out,

0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:47.040
<v Speaker 1>show him, explain to me, you know, so you understand

0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 1>the business better, and just do me one favory, just

0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:58.120
<v Speaker 1>one favor. I said, yes, sir, he said, whatever you do,

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:02.399
<v Speaker 1>just don't don't burn him up. He uses the word

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 1>gemma gemmans burnt burned him a meaning do not let

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:12.719
<v Speaker 1>people know that he's in the drug business, like keep

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:18.000
<v Speaker 1>it quiet, keep it between us. He was a bad businessman.

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:21.319
<v Speaker 1>Everything was for his advantage. I remember even would tell

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:22.960
<v Speaker 1>him like how much one are you going to make

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:26.880
<v Speaker 1>off this? Like he knows who his father is. He

0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 1>just used it to advantage And I think I used

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 1>to tell him all the time. I got so comfortable

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:32.279
<v Speaker 1>where I used to something like that's not the way

0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna do business. I felt like it was not

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:47.920
<v Speaker 1>turning back the point in our return. I just remember

0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:51.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm always saying it's okay, we're safe now. You don't

0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:57.319
<v Speaker 1>have to worry. We're safe now. It's nice to be, like,

0:40:57.440 --> 0:41:05.719
<v Speaker 1>are we Jay is a fugitive, so every time we

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:09.240
<v Speaker 1>would fly, but it was always, you know, nerve racking,

0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:15.120
<v Speaker 1>even though we had different ideas, different identities. When I

0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:20.680
<v Speaker 1>got to Colican for the first time, I remember Jay

0:41:20.719 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 1>saying that someone was there. They're going to pick us up.

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:32.400
<v Speaker 1>And they came in with military and they came to

0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:37.560
<v Speaker 1>get us and they got our bags and walked us

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:40.400
<v Speaker 1>to the car and made sure that we were good.

0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:45.360
<v Speaker 1>The crazy thing is is that day, like I felt,

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I never felt more safe in my life. I thought

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:57.239
<v Speaker 1>that they would be fine, like nothing, he's gonna put

0:41:57.280 --> 0:42:02.040
<v Speaker 1>us in harm's way m hm. And I think after

0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:06.360
<v Speaker 1>that day that experience, I felt like kind of was

0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:11.800
<v Speaker 1>okay with it. That's all they wanted, was oh I

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 1>care about it was like safety, stability, and it kind

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:27.600
<v Speaker 1>of just made me feel better thinking we're sitting here

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:31.440
<v Speaker 1>and I just it's hard going back to those times,

0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:35.000
<v Speaker 1>just thinking about who we were then and who we

0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:39.440
<v Speaker 1>are today. In hindsight, I think don't make sense or

0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:44.239
<v Speaker 1>we don't even understand, like how do we make certain decisions?

0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Because for anyone I think it good or bad. What

0:42:53.920 --> 0:43:02.200
<v Speaker 1>time that the bosses were like Itellian j MP that

0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:06.600
<v Speaker 1>they couldn't just move around the city on their own,

0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 1>or me and Viv couldn't just move freely around and

0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 1>go to the mall or go to the store. I

0:43:16.160 --> 0:43:19.319
<v Speaker 1>used to wonder, like, why, you know, why are all

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:22.640
<v Speaker 1>these men outside? Why are they out there all night?

0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 1>What's going on? Are we safe? And J would be

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 1>like that's what they're here for. And I'm like, good,

0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand, and he was like, well, you just

0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:50.560
<v Speaker 1>don't realize who we are. I think that Jay try

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:55.399
<v Speaker 1>to make everything is the normal. J and Peter at

0:43:55.440 --> 0:44:01.640
<v Speaker 1>first they disregarded the bosses, and there was a situation

0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:05.000
<v Speaker 1>where I think we would go four wheeling a lot

0:44:05.640 --> 0:44:09.680
<v Speaker 1>on the a t v s. And then that day

0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:14.239
<v Speaker 1>me and Vin wouldn't go and Jay went. There was

0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:18.200
<v Speaker 1>like maybe thirty guys that went up to the to

0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 1>the mountains. I know that day. I was really scared

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:26.279
<v Speaker 1>because Jay came back and said that they had a

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:30.879
<v Speaker 1>situation while they were four willing and they ran into

0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:40.040
<v Speaker 1>another group are men. He said that we just can't

0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:43.759
<v Speaker 1>move around the city the way that we move anymore

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:51.520
<v Speaker 1>because I think something that happened to us. It took

0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:55.600
<v Speaker 1>about a jest to the rules accustomed to that life.

0:44:58.160 --> 0:45:02.880
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of us that they Oh, I actually

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:06.640
<v Speaker 1>took my son with me. He loved forward and then

0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:10.040
<v Speaker 1>you know on the side by side, he just loved it.

0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 1>And how old is he at the time till two

0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know Qusha man that he might be putting

0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:21.840
<v Speaker 1>him in a dangerous situation or is it just normal?

0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:26.680
<v Speaker 1>I guess I should have known a little bit better.

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:37.840
<v Speaker 1>A bunch of armed men came to meet us, and

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:42.840
<v Speaker 1>not in a nice way. What are you doing here?

0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 1>And go I'm here? And when we're boarding. He was like,

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:48.719
<v Speaker 1>can you listen? Who are you with? Like who are

0:45:48.760 --> 0:46:00.120
<v Speaker 1>these people? Because you're about to die and god, I

0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:04.800
<v Speaker 1>made a phone call. He was like, he's went some twins.

0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I guess the right person happens pick up and he

0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:17.480
<v Speaker 1>said he's from the Twins from the state. He was

0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:21.880
<v Speaker 1>like yes, and he were like put me on the

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:24.359
<v Speaker 1>phone with her boss and think he wants to talk

0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:28.680
<v Speaker 1>to It was. It was a scary situation. He was like, listen,

0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:31.399
<v Speaker 1>like we get it. You might not know, but don't

0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:35.160
<v Speaker 1>you ever come up here again like that without letting

0:46:35.200 --> 0:46:38.839
<v Speaker 1>someone out, we could have killed you. And I would

0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:40.960
<v Speaker 1>have killed you right now then it would have been

0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 1>my ass. He was upset about that. I would have

0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:49.160
<v Speaker 1>had problems because you come up you know what, you

0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:56.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't realize that you were protected. He was upset. I

0:46:56.640 --> 0:47:00.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't think about those things. I'm thinking, I still be

0:47:00.400 --> 0:47:02.960
<v Speaker 1>a regular person. But even being a regular person right,

0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:07.520
<v Speaker 1>like I'm associated it is with people that don't they

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:09.920
<v Speaker 1>know are part of that life or whatever the case is,

0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:13.399
<v Speaker 1>and I don't realize it, you know, because a new

0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:18.319
<v Speaker 1>territory for me, right there's so many of those like

0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:25.440
<v Speaker 1>learning experiences. What's big over there's traveling groups, right, you know,

0:47:25.520 --> 0:47:29.920
<v Speaker 1>our men, and you have to let people know you

0:47:30.000 --> 0:47:33.600
<v Speaker 1>have to check in. So if you check in, it's

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:36.399
<v Speaker 1>almost like once you check in, they know that you're

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:40.920
<v Speaker 1>to do with. So they'll give you a check locations

0:47:42.000 --> 0:47:43.840
<v Speaker 1>and they'll give you a code. They'll say that you

0:47:43.920 --> 0:47:47.000
<v Speaker 1>work for this company. It could be a company could

0:47:47.000 --> 0:47:49.880
<v Speaker 1>be like I worked for Coca Cola. Which one I

0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:52.319
<v Speaker 1>worked the one in you know, in Mexico City. They'll

0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:54.640
<v Speaker 1>tell you a code, and when you tell that coude

0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:58.719
<v Speaker 1>to whoever has you, it's the obligation to call back

0:47:58.760 --> 0:48:01.640
<v Speaker 1>and check in, like, hey, we have this guy here

0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:04.840
<v Speaker 1>that says he works the Coke Color. It could be

0:48:04.840 --> 0:48:06.719
<v Speaker 1>like cold Egg, it could be whatever it was at

0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:12.880
<v Speaker 1>the time. It switches check with the cos Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:48:12.920 --> 0:48:15.000
<v Speaker 1>they worked through us and then not said that's the

0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:17.360
<v Speaker 1>end of that. You didn't check it and you didn't

0:48:17.360 --> 0:48:19.000
<v Speaker 1>have you know, we didn't want to put ourselves in

0:48:19.040 --> 0:48:24.799
<v Speaker 1>that situation. I would never ever like use it because

0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want like law enforcement to know that we

0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:31.799
<v Speaker 1>were part of the organization. And I'd rather just try

0:48:31.880 --> 0:48:33.719
<v Speaker 1>to like talk my way out of it or just

0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:37.000
<v Speaker 1>like you know, bribe him. You know, just on my own.

0:48:39.600 --> 0:48:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I still remember one time where it was like a

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:43.279
<v Speaker 1>situation where I wasn't gonna be able to get out

0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:45.959
<v Speaker 1>of it. And we were two cars and they pulled

0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:54.160
<v Speaker 1>us over, and the coff and he knew me like

0:48:54.719 --> 0:48:57.000
<v Speaker 1>he would see me because you know again, same thing

0:48:57.080 --> 0:48:58.960
<v Speaker 1>that happens back in the States when I early on

0:48:59.040 --> 0:49:03.040
<v Speaker 1>and you have all these cars you don't belong there too.

0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:05.680
<v Speaker 1>It was like getting castle like pulled over and they're

0:49:05.719 --> 0:49:09.359
<v Speaker 1>looking for, you know, for like you know, you give

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:13.640
<v Speaker 1>him something, some money, you know, payoff. It was one

0:49:13.640 --> 0:49:16.600
<v Speaker 1>of the situations like I'm not even gonna like I

0:49:16.680 --> 0:49:19.440
<v Speaker 1>see how many cups they are. I know who's with me.

0:49:19.520 --> 0:49:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I jumped off the car, said like, oh listen,

0:49:23.600 --> 0:49:29.720
<v Speaker 1>I work for the for the quota company. They looked

0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:36.560
<v Speaker 1>at me, he said which one, and I'm like Maxo

0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:43.239
<v Speaker 1>City and he was like his eyes loved like you

0:49:43.480 --> 0:49:48.160
<v Speaker 1>do his boss like, no, I need to double check.

0:49:50.239 --> 0:49:52.960
<v Speaker 1>And he came back here. Pat said, oh, I apologize.

0:49:54.400 --> 0:49:56.479
<v Speaker 1>Where are you going? I'm like, we're going to dinner.

0:49:56.520 --> 0:50:01.040
<v Speaker 1>We have whatever, like where's court drop. There are three

0:50:01.080 --> 0:50:04.400
<v Speaker 1>main cartels that operate in Mexico and Cinelo is the

0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:10.439
<v Speaker 1>largest one. Collectively, more than three million local Mexicans rely

0:50:10.560 --> 0:50:13.760
<v Speaker 1>on the cartels to earn a living, including as private

0:50:13.800 --> 0:50:20.840
<v Speaker 1>security to those who need it. We decided to go

0:50:21.000 --> 0:50:26.680
<v Speaker 1>to cap Pits. We have special seats right in the

0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:33.279
<v Speaker 1>front row act a restaurant. So I get up, so

0:50:33.280 --> 0:50:37.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go to restaurant. They can't seen get about

0:50:37.120 --> 0:50:40.480
<v Speaker 1>the chair and they literally come down with the rival

0:50:41.800 --> 0:50:43.520
<v Speaker 1>and they stopped and I look at him. I'm like,

0:50:44.480 --> 0:50:46.400
<v Speaker 1>he said, where are you going to the restaurant, Like,

0:50:46.600 --> 0:50:50.400
<v Speaker 1>come on, let's go and take a like let's go,

0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:55.400
<v Speaker 1>And they literally went and stood next to me and

0:50:55.560 --> 0:51:03.239
<v Speaker 1>these are police. Heart listen, I use the restaurant. I'm

0:51:03.239 --> 0:51:06.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna wash my hands. I'm like, they're not helping me

0:51:06.520 --> 0:51:10.759
<v Speaker 1>work there. He's like, why not, because you're burning me up.

0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Like I'll tell me you're He said, no, we gotta

0:51:15.239 --> 0:51:19.919
<v Speaker 1>make sure you're good, and they escort me back down

0:51:19.920 --> 0:51:25.840
<v Speaker 1>to the role. One capital composed actually owned the seats,

0:51:25.840 --> 0:51:28.600
<v Speaker 1>and I guess they'll tell him, you know, my friends

0:51:28.640 --> 0:51:30.560
<v Speaker 1>may be there, like if you better keep an eye

0:51:30.640 --> 0:51:35.880
<v Speaker 1>and make sure he's okay. Yeah, they're just preclating on

0:51:36.120 --> 0:51:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I guess personal bodyguards were only one part of the

0:51:41.560 --> 0:51:45.279
<v Speaker 1>way the carts helped provided security. That was another way,

0:51:46.040 --> 0:51:49.360
<v Speaker 1>a deadly away headed by a man known as Rambo.

0:51:52.880 --> 0:51:56.000
<v Speaker 1>The Carter has different people who do different things, and

0:51:57.120 --> 0:52:01.799
<v Speaker 1>his job was cugarios. His job was to kill and

0:52:01.880 --> 0:52:06.760
<v Speaker 1>he was the wine in charge of the team of Hitman.

0:52:08.560 --> 0:52:11.000
<v Speaker 1>He was actually a prison guard to help Chip escape

0:52:11.040 --> 0:52:18.319
<v Speaker 1>the first time, and he was the most vicious, craziest

0:52:19.120 --> 0:52:21.400
<v Speaker 1>personal I think. I remember at the same time, he

0:52:21.520 --> 0:52:33.239
<v Speaker 1>was really nice to us. We'll call him Ramble. I mean,

0:52:33.239 --> 0:52:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I guess you couldn't stand where we can. Rambo. Yeah,

0:52:36.080 --> 0:52:41.359
<v Speaker 1>I've seen the films and huh, value should be so mad.

0:52:41.520 --> 0:52:43.920
<v Speaker 1>She used to be like, I can't believe. Oh, he

0:52:44.000 --> 0:52:47.880
<v Speaker 1>turned my stomach just because he was just so ruthless.

0:52:50.200 --> 0:52:53.680
<v Speaker 1>He loved me and my brother. I gave him his

0:52:53.719 --> 0:52:56.640
<v Speaker 1>first house as a gift for him and his family,

0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:02.080
<v Speaker 1>and we would do stuff like that. He would cry

0:53:03.440 --> 0:53:10.719
<v Speaker 1>and like literally cry your chess. I remember Jay inviting

0:53:10.800 --> 0:53:14.919
<v Speaker 1>him to my son's birthday party and I just was like,

0:53:15.160 --> 0:53:20.280
<v Speaker 1>what is he doing here? And he ended up bringing

0:53:20.840 --> 0:53:26.279
<v Speaker 1>his family and I would just get so spoked, like

0:53:26.400 --> 0:53:28.080
<v Speaker 1>my stomach with her. And when I would see him

0:53:28.160 --> 0:53:32.759
<v Speaker 1>like jams. Sorry, Like I just cannot understand how he

0:53:32.800 --> 0:53:35.640
<v Speaker 1>can sit here with his family after knowing like all

0:53:35.640 --> 0:53:39.160
<v Speaker 1>the stuff that he did. It just was so bothersome

0:53:39.239 --> 0:53:43.040
<v Speaker 1>to me. If you sat there and you watched him,

0:53:43.080 --> 0:53:46.120
<v Speaker 1>you would never know. And I think that was a

0:53:46.200 --> 0:53:50.799
<v Speaker 1>scary part. What did he look like? He looked like

0:53:50.840 --> 0:53:55.960
<v Speaker 1>a Mexican version working class sergeant slaughter. Do you know

0:53:56.000 --> 0:54:00.319
<v Speaker 1>who that is? He's bald, you know, like in school bog,

0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:05.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, with the hair here, big mustache, yeah, mustache,

0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:12.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of tall, right, like a medium build, you know.

0:54:12.360 --> 0:54:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I get a call one day, my phone's ringing in

0:54:14.239 --> 0:54:20.399
<v Speaker 1>its rambles and I'm like, yeah, hello. He's like, hey,

0:54:21.480 --> 0:54:23.719
<v Speaker 1>I need each other? Do you know a guy named no?

0:54:23.840 --> 0:54:27.920
<v Speaker 1>If I go, I'm like, yeah, I do. Why he said, oh,

0:54:28.120 --> 0:54:30.319
<v Speaker 1>you're sure this is so good that you know him?

0:54:30.360 --> 0:54:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Because he just approached me. You know my name? Did

0:54:34.040 --> 0:54:37.719
<v Speaker 1>you call me? And I asked them, how did you know?

0:54:37.880 --> 0:54:41.360
<v Speaker 1>He said, the twin described you. It has to be you.

0:54:43.320 --> 0:54:47.360
<v Speaker 1>He's your friend. When he's a really good friend of mine.

0:54:48.680 --> 0:54:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure what your situation. Oh that's all I

0:54:50.880 --> 0:54:53.279
<v Speaker 1>need to know. That's all I need to know. Don't

0:54:53.320 --> 0:54:56.680
<v Speaker 1>worry about it. We'll make sure he's he's okay, and

0:54:57.200 --> 0:54:59.719
<v Speaker 1>here he wants to tart you. I remember him calling

0:54:59.800 --> 0:55:02.759
<v Speaker 1>her thank you so much, like thank you, I really

0:55:02.800 --> 0:55:07.520
<v Speaker 1>appreciate that. He calls me. The next day he said, Yo,

0:55:08.320 --> 0:55:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Ramble is it's crazyeal. I'm like, I wonder what he did,

0:55:14.719 --> 0:55:19.320
<v Speaker 1>so Ramble can see me. Two days later, he said,

0:55:20.480 --> 0:55:24.120
<v Speaker 1>we went up there and he's crying, you know, he's

0:55:24.160 --> 0:55:26.160
<v Speaker 1>slapping the guy around with his gun, you know, like,

0:55:27.760 --> 0:55:29.880
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just like, we're here to take care of business.

0:55:29.880 --> 0:55:32.040
<v Speaker 1>And he said he has him and five other guys

0:55:32.760 --> 0:55:36.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, tied up, and I don't go to play games,

0:55:36.040 --> 0:55:39.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, And I took up my gun and I

0:55:39.960 --> 0:55:46.680
<v Speaker 1>just he said, blood everywhere, slatter whatever. He said, let's

0:55:46.680 --> 0:55:51.759
<v Speaker 1>go anybody they wanna be sucking around, like I'm going

0:55:51.760 --> 0:55:58.160
<v Speaker 1>to funk around And I'm like, you did what And

0:55:58.200 --> 0:56:02.399
<v Speaker 1>he will say this coming like as if it wasn't

0:56:02.440 --> 0:56:07.960
<v Speaker 1>not here, and I had a big deal. The twins

0:56:08.000 --> 0:56:10.080
<v Speaker 1>were some of the only people who would be able

0:56:10.120 --> 0:56:13.200
<v Speaker 1>to stop a killing from going ahead. They often had

0:56:13.200 --> 0:56:17.200
<v Speaker 1>to use that power to save their friends. As for Loupe,

0:56:17.920 --> 0:56:20.480
<v Speaker 1>j and Pete later found out that he and his

0:56:20.560 --> 0:56:24.000
<v Speaker 1>sons were kidnapped one New Year's Eve. Loupe had to

0:56:24.040 --> 0:56:27.879
<v Speaker 1>then sign over all their properties to Chapo. In exchange.

0:56:28.200 --> 0:56:33.080
<v Speaker 1>The cartel let his sons go. Loope, though was killed

0:56:33.560 --> 0:56:59.759
<v Speaker 1>under Chapeo's order. With the protection of the cartel, p

0:57:00.040 --> 0:57:03.560
<v Speaker 1>and Jay were able to safely grow their business, continuing

0:57:03.600 --> 0:57:08.080
<v Speaker 1>to do deals and make even more money. We're working

0:57:08.040 --> 0:57:12.560
<v Speaker 1>on a business deal. We're actually standing suit of Federan

0:57:13.040 --> 0:57:18.040
<v Speaker 1>from China to Mexico. And we had the people on

0:57:18.400 --> 0:57:20.880
<v Speaker 1>our associates that were out of town come in and

0:57:22.120 --> 0:57:23.440
<v Speaker 1>it was kind of taking a long and they were

0:57:23.440 --> 0:57:27.040
<v Speaker 1>getting a little bit like you know, impatient boarding. Our

0:57:27.760 --> 0:57:30.160
<v Speaker 1>relationship with with him was to sit down and actually

0:57:30.200 --> 0:57:35.960
<v Speaker 1>like chit chat right talk ideas, you know, dinner. This

0:57:36.200 --> 0:57:39.640
<v Speaker 1>law was gonna like I think we're looking to profit

0:57:39.680 --> 0:57:48.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe eighty million. Of course we're paying special attention to them,

0:57:48.040 --> 0:57:50.120
<v Speaker 1>I guess it being the city closed in, you know,

0:57:50.240 --> 0:57:51.920
<v Speaker 1>like we didn't like to travel because it was at

0:57:51.960 --> 0:57:55.440
<v Speaker 1>that time it was hot. What they considered the government

0:57:55.800 --> 0:58:01.160
<v Speaker 1>was like plaint checkpoints, so we avoid was like going

0:58:01.200 --> 0:58:04.520
<v Speaker 1>to the street for anything. We locked ourselves and at home,

0:58:05.440 --> 0:58:07.560
<v Speaker 1>which we were okay with, but they were not okay

0:58:07.600 --> 0:58:12.120
<v Speaker 1>with So we have a place and can cool and

0:58:12.120 --> 0:58:14.480
<v Speaker 1>it's okay, let's go to can Come. You know, we

0:58:14.520 --> 0:58:20.600
<v Speaker 1>could just go chill over there. We cover the plane

0:58:20.600 --> 0:58:24.720
<v Speaker 1>to get ready. We have actually a jetted and this

0:58:24.920 --> 0:58:30.080
<v Speaker 1>usually transports money for emergencies from anywhere in Mexico and

0:58:30.120 --> 0:58:33.000
<v Speaker 1>we'll send it back to Chicago just in case, like

0:58:33.040 --> 0:58:36.760
<v Speaker 1>we needed like money to make a payment, like really fast.

0:58:38.880 --> 0:58:40.640
<v Speaker 1>For whatever reason, they said it was a good idea

0:58:40.720 --> 0:58:44.800
<v Speaker 1>fast to go private, because you know, you just stand

0:58:44.800 --> 0:58:46.600
<v Speaker 1>out right. So I say, okay, we'll just jump on

0:58:46.640 --> 0:58:51.200
<v Speaker 1>a commercial plane. We'll go separate. I'm gonna learn this.

0:58:51.280 --> 0:58:53.440
<v Speaker 1>And now I didn't like telling people what we were

0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:57.120
<v Speaker 1>doing because then people knew, like, oh, you're gonna travel

0:59:00.440 --> 0:59:05.680
<v Speaker 1>by chance. Top with his his cousin and said, hey, I

0:59:05.720 --> 0:59:08.560
<v Speaker 1>need you guys, anyone of used to come take care

0:59:08.560 --> 0:59:12.560
<v Speaker 1>of some business whatever, and we're about to leave your

0:59:12.640 --> 0:59:18.280
<v Speaker 1>family too. Can't call you like what I told you, guys.

0:59:19.520 --> 0:59:21.360
<v Speaker 1>You can have just travel. You need to call and

0:59:21.480 --> 0:59:25.040
<v Speaker 1>check in. There's a big old military operation going there.

0:59:26.000 --> 0:59:28.840
<v Speaker 1>If you guys go to the airport, do it and

0:59:28.880 --> 0:59:34.760
<v Speaker 1>I coming back. They know the business, they know how

0:59:34.800 --> 0:59:40.960
<v Speaker 1>to maneuver we're learning it. We're learning it. We're like, wow,

0:59:41.040 --> 0:59:43.120
<v Speaker 1>we didn't know we were going to just fly into

0:59:43.120 --> 0:59:48.160
<v Speaker 1>a trapped We're like, okay, thanks. So we decided to

0:59:48.240 --> 0:59:52.480
<v Speaker 1>change our plans. They decided to shift their get away

0:59:52.560 --> 0:59:57.000
<v Speaker 1>from Concoon to the luxurious private resort island of Pontameter,

0:59:57.640 --> 1:00:00.120
<v Speaker 1>the same place where Pete and Viv got my it.

1:00:01.240 --> 1:00:05.160
<v Speaker 1>They hadn't visited for two years. We had left that

1:00:05.200 --> 1:00:09.160
<v Speaker 1>city because the Mexican government had found out that we

1:00:09.160 --> 1:00:13.000
<v Speaker 1>were there, and we already had paid up right to

1:00:13.120 --> 1:00:15.720
<v Speaker 1>the Mexican government. Yes, we used to pay vibes to

1:00:15.720 --> 1:00:18.160
<v Speaker 1>the Mexican government. Yes we would pay brides for our business,

1:00:18.240 --> 1:00:20.960
<v Speaker 1>but but not for us. And the problem is that

1:00:21.000 --> 1:00:23.520
<v Speaker 1>they found out who we were and they tried to

1:00:23.560 --> 1:00:28.360
<v Speaker 1>extort us. And we didn't want to get the organization

1:00:28.360 --> 1:00:30.280
<v Speaker 1>about because I knew it it wasn't gonna end well.

1:00:30.960 --> 1:00:35.800
<v Speaker 1>So instead we just cut off ties. We left the

1:00:35.840 --> 1:00:39.880
<v Speaker 1>home we we owned there. We just left. We just

1:00:39.920 --> 1:00:44.320
<v Speaker 1>picked up and left and left everything there. We actually

1:00:44.320 --> 1:00:47.320
<v Speaker 1>just let our personal belongings, it's just you know, whatever,

1:00:47.360 --> 1:00:48.959
<v Speaker 1>cloth make sure we didn't even know a picture behind

1:00:49.000 --> 1:00:53.040
<v Speaker 1>them left to the house. Our workers packed up a

1:00:53.040 --> 1:00:55.720
<v Speaker 1>couple of bags and that was it. And the houses

1:00:55.800 --> 1:00:58.000
<v Speaker 1>under someone's name were just like, hey, don't even look

1:00:58.040 --> 1:01:00.160
<v Speaker 1>into it. You know it's going to get seen or

1:01:00.240 --> 1:01:02.080
<v Speaker 1>something something. They're gonna come up her because now they

1:01:02.120 --> 1:01:04.760
<v Speaker 1>know because I suppose you couldn't You couldn't ever sell

1:01:04.800 --> 1:01:10.040
<v Speaker 1>a house because if you did well was the government

1:01:10.080 --> 1:01:13.040
<v Speaker 1>knows that you own the property, that these goods canna

1:01:13.040 --> 1:01:16.680
<v Speaker 1>come from it. They're gonna follow trail where you know,

1:01:17.240 --> 1:01:20.160
<v Speaker 1>where the money went who sold it. So we end

1:01:20.240 --> 1:01:22.480
<v Speaker 1>up believing that our beach house I was right on

1:01:22.520 --> 1:01:28.040
<v Speaker 1>the beaches. It was a little getaway. You know. We

1:01:28.120 --> 1:01:33.120
<v Speaker 1>had left their two thousand five, so now we're two seven.

1:01:34.240 --> 1:01:36.680
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's go to the beach. We're gonna go

1:01:36.720 --> 1:01:39.960
<v Speaker 1>back to that same area. It's okay, we won't come on,

1:01:40.080 --> 1:01:44.720
<v Speaker 1>it's not a big deal. There's a bunch of us,

1:01:44.800 --> 1:01:48.480
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of my workers, probably twenty five of us,

1:01:50.720 --> 1:01:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and a couple of our associates and their families. We

1:01:53.080 --> 1:01:56.200
<v Speaker 1>decided to go to the beach and we had a

1:01:57.120 --> 1:02:00.400
<v Speaker 1>We were rented as a really big villa right on

1:02:00.440 --> 1:02:02.720
<v Speaker 1>the beach. It was expensive. It was like a probably

1:02:02.800 --> 1:02:04.440
<v Speaker 1>four fight down. Other than a day or SOMETI I'm

1:02:04.440 --> 1:02:08.480
<v Speaker 1>not sure. Did they have to be right? You were

1:02:08.480 --> 1:02:11.840
<v Speaker 1>hanging on the pool and stuff. Our friends are associate

1:02:11.880 --> 1:02:17.640
<v Speaker 1>decided that they were lonely. They want entertainment. I was

1:02:17.680 --> 1:02:22.560
<v Speaker 1>so tired that day. I was tired and I said

1:02:22.640 --> 1:02:24.520
<v Speaker 1>my brother, I said, I'm not going out. I'm tired.

1:02:25.400 --> 1:02:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go ahead and just lay it down. I

1:02:29.960 --> 1:02:36.520
<v Speaker 1>ain't the falling sleep that wakes me up. Hey, you

1:02:36.560 --> 1:02:38.040
<v Speaker 1>know Peter saying for me to wake you up, and

1:02:38.080 --> 1:02:40.000
<v Speaker 1>he's saying that they want, you know, they want to

1:02:40.000 --> 1:02:43.120
<v Speaker 1>go to the strip club. And I'm like, a come

1:02:43.200 --> 1:02:45.520
<v Speaker 1>to go have fun? Like, why don't you want to

1:02:45.560 --> 1:02:49.960
<v Speaker 1>go to the strip club? I said, I'm tired. It's like,

1:02:50.000 --> 1:02:53.560
<v Speaker 1>oh I want to go. I'm like, okay, then go

1:02:53.640 --> 1:02:57.680
<v Speaker 1>with them. You know, I'm mistake here. I'm already like sleeping.

1:02:57.760 --> 1:03:00.800
<v Speaker 1>And she was like, oh, you you know, I just

1:03:00.840 --> 1:03:03.040
<v Speaker 1>don't want to go because we're it's you know, us

1:03:03.040 --> 1:03:04.960
<v Speaker 1>scoring and whatever. The kids. I don't know. So that

1:03:05.040 --> 1:03:08.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of made me all right, let's go like one

1:03:08.960 --> 1:03:15.640
<v Speaker 1>thirty two, got up, you got dressed, got ready, and

1:03:16.960 --> 1:03:19.800
<v Speaker 1>usually we would take someone with us, you know, let's

1:03:19.840 --> 1:03:22.800
<v Speaker 1>they sit out tip And since it was late, everyone's

1:03:22.800 --> 1:03:27.000
<v Speaker 1>already kind of tired. We're like, it's okay, it's late.

1:03:27.080 --> 1:03:29.280
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go. We're thinking they're gonna pick up a

1:03:29.360 --> 1:03:34.640
<v Speaker 1>couple of girls and it's gonna be easy. I have

1:03:34.960 --> 1:03:38.000
<v Speaker 1>a couple of guys with me and it's our friends,

1:03:38.120 --> 1:03:44.320
<v Speaker 1>four of them, mean Peter. When we get to strip club,

1:03:44.800 --> 1:03:49.360
<v Speaker 1>the security notices where you guys been, we just kind

1:03:49.360 --> 1:03:53.360
<v Speaker 1>of like kind of just burst off, like whatever, what

1:03:53.520 --> 1:03:57.640
<v Speaker 1>isn't they recognized, Yeah, and from being there before, yeah,

1:03:57.720 --> 1:04:00.800
<v Speaker 1>from we were actually we're lived there, so they so

1:04:00.880 --> 1:04:03.080
<v Speaker 1>you you know, yeah, you make a lot of noise,

1:04:03.160 --> 1:04:05.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, just your presence there. They start seeing you.

1:04:05.560 --> 1:04:09.800
<v Speaker 1>You you look different. We're going to strictly get us

1:04:09.800 --> 1:04:14.000
<v Speaker 1>a table, and they were the drinks. Um we're sitting

1:04:14.200 --> 1:04:17.200
<v Speaker 1>at a table, you know, of course, so they start,

1:04:17.280 --> 1:04:22.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, asking for girls and stuff. I noticed that

1:04:22.480 --> 1:04:25.640
<v Speaker 1>there was a guy at the bar. He kept kind

1:04:25.640 --> 1:04:27.880
<v Speaker 1>of looking over here, the hand just looking over a

1:04:30.640 --> 1:04:34.640
<v Speaker 1>churned to my brother and said, hey, he tells me, hey,

1:04:34.680 --> 1:04:37.760
<v Speaker 1>did you see dude? He doesn't stop looking And I know,

1:04:37.880 --> 1:04:41.280
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, could it be that they're looking at valid?

1:04:41.440 --> 1:04:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Maybe because there's the only women there practice other than

1:04:45.120 --> 1:04:49.920
<v Speaker 1>the girls that worked there. We're like probably, but and

1:04:50.000 --> 1:04:52.840
<v Speaker 1>he gave me a bad bite, like a really bad one,

1:04:53.040 --> 1:04:57.600
<v Speaker 1>and he kept looking. I'm more keeping eyed him than

1:04:59.080 --> 1:05:05.080
<v Speaker 1>anything else I tell about. And she's like, that's so

1:05:05.240 --> 1:05:07.520
<v Speaker 1>weird he is because I was like, to look at him,

1:05:07.640 --> 1:05:10.880
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna stare. He's gonta stare. And she asked me,

1:05:11.040 --> 1:05:13.360
<v Speaker 1>do you want to leave? And I didn't want to

1:05:13.400 --> 1:05:16.560
<v Speaker 1>be that first. I guessed that was just like okay,

1:05:16.600 --> 1:05:21.440
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, nah, it's fine. He gets up

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<v Speaker 1>collage thirty minutes later for him was like walks passed

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<v Speaker 1>this way, but he actually came kind of really close by,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like it takes a look at us, like

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<v Speaker 1>up and down. You know, I can't follow him. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking he's going to rest froom. You know what. He

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<v Speaker 1>I lose his sight. He had like this little khaki

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<v Speaker 1>hat and why I completed him. He walks out, He's gone,

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<v Speaker 1>not a big deal. Maybe twenty five thirty minutes passed.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm using track of time there because we're

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<v Speaker 1>in struggle. You know, I don't drink or anything dead hampstore.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just you know, having a good time. Where people

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<v Speaker 1>who are there in if you know when's just here

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<v Speaker 1>at the banks, like a lot of banks screen where

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<v Speaker 1>we could even like react the head country, stay tuned.

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