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Speaker 1: Pete had just been held hostage for over twenty days,

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Speaker 1: The kidnapping haunts Pete to this day and he still

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Speaker 1: Sometimes that vulnerability makes you hold on to what you know,

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Speaker 1: go wrong, you know, one bad conversation or one bad disagreement.

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Speaker 1: They said he started wars. They killed thousands of people

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Speaker 1: for someone not shaking his hand. That's all. And one

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Speaker 1: I want to say something to you, like yeah, tell

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Speaker 1: me Like, look, man, we've been in business for a

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Speaker 1: long time together, you know, maybe not directly, but to

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Speaker 1: So he said, He's like, you know what you've earned it,

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Speaker 1: I got. I want everyone to know you, my people.

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Speaker 1: They messed to their mess with me. You like, you're

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429
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Speaker 1: like I was expecting some six foot talk ugly dark antle.

430
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: I was scared, like I don't know. We didn't want

431
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: to they shoot me. That's I'm by seven, we're both seven.

432
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: I'm with Minabada, which is pro abt of people don't know.

433
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: It's the head of the Sinattle card Toil along with

434
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: the chapel. He's been the boss for the last forty

435
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: years and he's never been arrested. He's the man May

436
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: is still the head of the Cinelo A cartel. He's

437
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: still never been caught. He's currently in hiding and the

438
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: reward for his capture was recently tripled to a fifty

439
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: million dollar bounty. While Chapo was only ever referred to

440
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: as Dad and Daddy, my own Beltran were known as

441
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: Aunt or uncle. He and Chapo would often meet with

442
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: the twins in Gougla, can and they became like family.

443
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: When I traveled, I traveled with a school back big

444
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,719
Speaker 1: school bed. We're are my books that we had for

445
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: the last three years. My alledgers so like a rook stack,

446
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: a regular backpackerone's going to school like students, students. And

447
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: our notebooks were like school notebooks. Do you record single

448
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: thing you did? Allegers do head of note books and

449
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: they were heavy, like you know, it was heavy. Mayo

450
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: agree to me with a the nark On handshake? What's

451
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: the Northern hand shake? Yeah, and it's not that's a

452
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: hand shake that's going to part on the back. Then

453
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: another handshake. It has to be like that. You do that,

454
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: You do that million times all day. You do this

455
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: in roll and listen if there's tad back or you

456
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: could do and your side. You're gonna do it to everyone,

457
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: every single one, like like how many times you put

458
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: on the but is it like two times? Two times

459
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: like a little dad. And then it doesn't have to

460
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: be the heart of My brother just wants to kind

461
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: of put his hands on me. It's a nice gentle. Yeah,

462
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: it's like they do it like a bunch of times.

463
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: But I've seen like regularly, like maybe older gentlemen do

464
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: it to each other. And what's weird that you do

465
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: this so many times? At first I was like giving dad, okay,

466
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: all right, something some you know the times we will

467
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: be like hey, pallet or the Mexican Yeah, that was

468
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: like your typical boom were younger in Mexico. And then

469
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: a fist right. Jay learns a very quick lesson and

470
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: how important the handshake is to the Cineloma cartel bosses.

471
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: When he went to meet Mayo. It means so much

472
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: more than just a hug, a handshake and a few

473
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: gentle pats on the back. And you know, I'm somewhere

474
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: in the mountains of Durrango somewhere, and Mayo had like

475
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: dirty forty guys with him. I'm a little bit on

476
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: a hill and he's at the bottom of the hill

477
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: and there's a street, you know, light stream, you know rocks.

478
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: He has a boot in the stream and he has

479
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 1: the only one on top of the rock. You're like, hey,

480
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: what they come on? Comes like add and you come down.

481
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: Don't worry. You can buy a new clothes. You get dirty.

482
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: They always would joke about that. I come and as

483
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: I'm coming down, you know, I familiar faces. I don't

484
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: want all their names. Shook two or four people's hands,

485
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: Marco handshake, and myle he's there, like across the street

486
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: and they're all like right here and right there on

487
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: each side. Yeah, like kind of listening to him talk.

488
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: And there's guys a little bit farther out. I'm like, hey,

489
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: what's up whatever, Like you know, greening, Like if you

490
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: come into a club and everyone knows you, like, but

491
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: we're in the damn mountaintops with a bunch of drug boards, right.

492
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: I made the mistake of saying, well, he's important. When

493
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 1: I come to you, everybody stands back. So I listened

494
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: to year four and just like twelve more here and

495
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: probably and more. I go straight through the stream to

496
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: Rocks and I went to greet him, and he'd like,

497
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: straight to my to my own. He looks at me,

498
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't give me a shake. He kind of grabbed

499
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: my hand. He says, my friends are not important enough.

500
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, sir, I thought about it. I'm sorry. I

501
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: just wanted to get you first. He said, here, we're

502
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: all the same, and I said please, I said, apologizing

503
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 1: this man, It's like, don't worry, don't worry, sent me back,

504
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: shake every my hand. They're like, don't worrybody, don't worry,

505
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: like it's okay in there. And when he shook everybody's hand,

506
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: he took me like probably seven minutes. He just watched me.

507
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 1: Once I got some, he shook my hand. And when

508
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: I went to that, when he gave me a good

509
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: hug like how are you? You know he's hugged me tight,

510
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 1: like how are you? I'm like, I'm good, sir that

511
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: I always served, No sir, yes sir. People like was

512
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 1: your brother Like I'm like, yeah, you know him, and

513
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: they'll be like you you know, they'll call him a

514
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: kiss as like yeah, you know him, he's for his wife.

515
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: There's a time where we were all invited, you know,

516
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: during the first meetings that yeah, you guys, aren't you

517
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: joined this orgy? And literally when blind gift the women

518
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm sorry, remember you know I'm married.

519
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: He's like instead of laughing, like you're a better man

520
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: than I am. I'm married too, like two or three

521
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: times and he's just laughed. But I think that no

522
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: matter what they respected that point of view. We're not

523
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: gonna change your our ways because you know, the man

524
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: was there, you know. But even if he offered me

525
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: a line of cold were and I don't know drugs, now,

526
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna skip that part. They respected at the point

527
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: wherever we said no, we said no. The okay with

528
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: that chap giving me calling me one day, he said,

529
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 1: I really really respect you guys and everything guys doing.

530
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: You know, I have my son who I want to

531
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: send to you, and I want you to teach him.

532
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: You don't show him. I want my son to like

533
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: be like you guys, like the businessmen you guys are.

534
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 1: That was like the biggest compliment ever. Like he said,

535
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: he wants to be like me, And I'm like, wow, man, yes,

536
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: whatever you want. Yeah, he says, So I'm gonna send

537
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: them to you. Just do me a favor, help him out,

538
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: show him, explain to me, you know, so you understand

539
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: the business better, and just do me one favory, just

540
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: one favor. I said, yes, sir, he said, whatever you do,

541
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 1: just don't don't burn him up. He uses the word

542
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: gemma gemmans burnt burned him a meaning do not let

543
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: people know that he's in the drug business, like keep

544
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: it quiet, keep it between us. He was a bad businessman.

545
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: Everything was for his advantage. I remember even would tell

546
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: him like how much one are you going to make

547
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: off this? Like he knows who his father is. He

548
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: just used it to advantage And I think I used

549
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: to tell him all the time. I got so comfortable

550
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: where I used to something like that's not the way

551
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna do business. I felt like it was not

552
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: turning back the point in our return. I just remember

553
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,479
Speaker 1: I'm always saying it's okay, we're safe now. You don't

554
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: have to worry. We're safe now. It's nice to be, like,

555
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: are we Jay is a fugitive, so every time we

556
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 1: would fly, but it was always, you know, nerve racking,

557
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: even though we had different ideas, different identities. When I

558
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: got to Colican for the first time, I remember Jay

559
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: saying that someone was there. They're going to pick us up.

560
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: And they came in with military and they came to

561
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: get us and they got our bags and walked us

562
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: to the car and made sure that we were good.

563
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: The crazy thing is is that day, like I felt,

564
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: I never felt more safe in my life. I thought

565
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: that they would be fine, like nothing, he's gonna put

566
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: us in harm's way m hm. And I think after

567
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: that day that experience, I felt like kind of was

568
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: okay with it. That's all they wanted, was oh I

569
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: care about it was like safety, stability, and it kind

570
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: of just made me feel better thinking we're sitting here

571
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: and I just it's hard going back to those times,

572
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: just thinking about who we were then and who we

573
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: are today. In hindsight, I think don't make sense or

574
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: we don't even understand, like how do we make certain decisions?

575
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: Because for anyone I think it good or bad. What

576
00:42:53,920 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: time that the bosses were like Itellian j MP that

577
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: they couldn't just move around the city on their own,

578
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: or me and Viv couldn't just move freely around and

579
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: go to the mall or go to the store. I

580
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: used to wonder, like, why, you know, why are all

581
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: these men outside? Why are they out there all night?

582
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: What's going on? Are we safe? And J would be

583
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: like that's what they're here for. And I'm like, good,

584
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: I don't understand, and he was like, well, you just

585
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: don't realize who we are. I think that Jay try

586
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: to make everything is the normal. J and Peter at

587
00:43:55,440 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: first they disregarded the bosses, and there was a situation

588
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: where I think we would go four wheeling a lot

589
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: on the a t v s. And then that day

590
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: me and Vin wouldn't go and Jay went. There was

591
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: like maybe thirty guys that went up to the to

592
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: the mountains. I know that day. I was really scared

593
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: because Jay came back and said that they had a

594
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 1: situation while they were four willing and they ran into

595
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: another group are men. He said that we just can't

596
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: move around the city the way that we move anymore

597
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: because I think something that happened to us. It took

598
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: about a jest to the rules accustomed to that life.

599
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: There's a lot of us that they Oh, I actually

600
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: took my son with me. He loved forward and then

601
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: you know on the side by side, he just loved it.

602
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: And how old is he at the time till two

603
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: I didn't know Qusha man that he might be putting

604
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: him in a dangerous situation or is it just normal?

605
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: I guess I should have known a little bit better.

606
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: A bunch of armed men came to meet us, and

607
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: not in a nice way. What are you doing here?

608
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: And go I'm here? And when we're boarding. He was like,

609
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: can you listen? Who are you with? Like who are

610
00:45:48,760 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: these people? Because you're about to die and god, I

611
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: made a phone call. He was like, he's went some twins.

612
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: I guess the right person happens pick up and he

613
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: said he's from the Twins from the state. He was

614
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: like yes, and he were like put me on the

615
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: phone with her boss and think he wants to talk

616
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: to It was. It was a scary situation. He was like, listen,

617
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 1: like we get it. You might not know, but don't

618
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: you ever come up here again like that without letting

619
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: someone out, we could have killed you. And I would

620
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: have killed you right now then it would have been

621
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: my ass. He was upset about that. I would have

622
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: had problems because you come up you know what, you

623
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: didn't realize that you were protected. He was upset. I

624
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: didn't think about those things. I'm thinking, I still be

625
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: a regular person. But even being a regular person right,

626
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: like I'm associated it is with people that don't they

627
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: know are part of that life or whatever the case is,

628
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 1: and I don't realize it, you know, because a new

629
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: territory for me, right there's so many of those like

630
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: learning experiences. What's big over there's traveling groups, right, you know,

631
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: our men, and you have to let people know you

632
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: have to check in. So if you check in, it's

633
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 1: almost like once you check in, they know that you're

634
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: to do with. So they'll give you a check locations

635
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: and they'll give you a code. They'll say that you

636
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: work for this company. It could be a company could

637
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: be like I worked for Coca Cola. Which one I

638
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: worked the one in you know, in Mexico City. They'll

639
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: tell you a code, and when you tell that coude

640
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: to whoever has you, it's the obligation to call back

641
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: and check in, like, hey, we have this guy here

642
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: that says he works the Coke Color. It could be

643
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: like cold Egg, it could be whatever it was at

644
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: the time. It switches check with the cos Yeah, yeah, yeah,

645
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: they worked through us and then not said that's the

646
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: end of that. You didn't check it and you didn't

647
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: have you know, we didn't want to put ourselves in

648
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: that situation. I would never ever like use it because

649
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: I didn't want like law enforcement to know that we

650
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: were part of the organization. And I'd rather just try

651
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: to like talk my way out of it or just

652
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: like you know, bribe him. You know, just on my own.

653
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: I still remember one time where it was like a

654
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: situation where I wasn't gonna be able to get out

655
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,959
Speaker 1: of it. And we were two cars and they pulled

656
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: us over, and the coff and he knew me like

657
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: he would see me because you know again, same thing

658
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: that happens back in the States when I early on

659
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: and you have all these cars you don't belong there too.

660
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: It was like getting castle like pulled over and they're

661
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: looking for, you know, for like you know, you give

662
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: him something, some money, you know, payoff. It was one

663
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: of the situations like I'm not even gonna like I

664
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: see how many cups they are. I know who's with me.

665
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, I jumped off the car, said like, oh listen,

666
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 1: I work for the for the quota company. They looked

667
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: at me, he said which one, and I'm like Maxo

668
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: City and he was like his eyes loved like you

669
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: do his boss like, no, I need to double check.

670
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: And he came back here. Pat said, oh, I apologize.

671
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,479
Speaker 1: Where are you going? I'm like, we're going to dinner.

672
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: We have whatever, like where's court drop. There are three

673
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: main cartels that operate in Mexico and Cinelo is the

674
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 1: largest one. Collectively, more than three million local Mexicans rely

675
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 1: on the cartels to earn a living, including as private

676
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: security to those who need it. We decided to go

677
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: to cap Pits. We have special seats right in the

678
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: front row act a restaurant. So I get up, so

679
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to restaurant. They can't seen get about

680
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: the chair and they literally come down with the rival

681
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: and they stopped and I look at him. I'm like,

682
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: he said, where are you going to the restaurant, Like,

683
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: come on, let's go and take a like let's go,

684
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 1: And they literally went and stood next to me and

685
00:50:55,560 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: these are police. Heart listen, I use the restaurant. I'm

686
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: gonna wash my hands. I'm like, they're not helping me

687
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: work there. He's like, why not, because you're burning me up.

688
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: Like I'll tell me you're He said, no, we gotta

689
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 1: make sure you're good, and they escort me back down

690
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: to the role. One capital composed actually owned the seats,

691
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: and I guess they'll tell him, you know, my friends

692
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: may be there, like if you better keep an eye

693
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: and make sure he's okay. Yeah, they're just preclating on

694
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: I guess personal bodyguards were only one part of the

695
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: way the carts helped provided security. That was another way,

696
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: a deadly away headed by a man known as Rambo.

697
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: The Carter has different people who do different things, and

698
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: his job was cugarios. His job was to kill and

699
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:06,760
Speaker 1: he was the wine in charge of the team of Hitman.

700
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: He was actually a prison guard to help Chip escape

701
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: the first time, and he was the most vicious, craziest

702
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: personal I think. I remember at the same time, he

703
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: was really nice to us. We'll call him Ramble. I mean,

704
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: I guess you couldn't stand where we can. Rambo. Yeah,

705
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: I've seen the films and huh, value should be so mad.

706
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: She used to be like, I can't believe. Oh, he

707
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: turned my stomach just because he was just so ruthless.

708
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: He loved me and my brother. I gave him his

709
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: first house as a gift for him and his family,

710
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: and we would do stuff like that. He would cry

711
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: and like literally cry your chess. I remember Jay inviting

712
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,919
Speaker 1: him to my son's birthday party and I just was like,

713
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 1: what is he doing here? And he ended up bringing

714
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: his family and I would just get so spoked, like

715
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: my stomach with her. And when I would see him

716
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: like jams. Sorry, Like I just cannot understand how he

717
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: can sit here with his family after knowing like all

718
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: the stuff that he did. It just was so bothersome

719
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: to me. If you sat there and you watched him,

720
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: you would never know. And I think that was a

721
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 1: scary part. What did he look like? He looked like

722
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: a Mexican version working class sergeant slaughter. Do you know

723
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: who that is? He's bald, you know, like in school bog,

724
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: you know, with the hair here, big mustache, yeah, mustache,

725
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: kind of tall, right, like a medium build, you know.

726
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: I get a call one day, my phone's ringing in

727
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 1: its rambles and I'm like, yeah, hello. He's like, hey,

728
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: I need each other? Do you know a guy named no?

729
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: If I go, I'm like, yeah, I do. Why he said, oh,

730
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: you're sure this is so good that you know him?

731
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: Because he just approached me. You know my name? Did

732
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: you call me? And I asked them, how did you know?

733
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: He said, the twin described you. It has to be you.

734
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: He's your friend. When he's a really good friend of mine.

735
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what your situation. Oh that's all I

736
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: need to know. That's all I need to know. Don't

737
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: worry about it. We'll make sure he's he's okay, and

738
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: here he wants to tart you. I remember him calling

739
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: her thank you so much, like thank you, I really

740
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: appreciate that. He calls me. The next day he said, Yo,

741
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: Ramble is it's crazyeal. I'm like, I wonder what he did,

742
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 1: so Ramble can see me. Two days later, he said,

743
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: we went up there and he's crying, you know, he's

744
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: slapping the guy around with his gun, you know, like,

745
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, we're here to take care of business.

746
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: And he said he has him and five other guys

747
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: you know, tied up, and I don't go to play games,

748
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 1: you know, And I took up my gun and I

749
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: just he said, blood everywhere, slatter whatever. He said, let's

750
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: go anybody they wanna be sucking around, like I'm going

751
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: to funk around And I'm like, you did what And

752
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 1: he will say this coming like as if it wasn't

753
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: not here, and I had a big deal. The twins

754
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: were some of the only people who would be able

755
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: to stop a killing from going ahead. They often had

756
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: to use that power to save their friends. As for Loupe,

757
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: j and Pete later found out that he and his

758
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: sons were kidnapped one New Year's Eve. Loupe had to

759
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 1: then sign over all their properties to Chapo. In exchange.

760
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: The cartel let his sons go. Loope, though was killed

761
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: under Chapeo's order. With the protection of the cartel, p

762
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: and Jay were able to safely grow their business, continuing

763
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: to do deals and make even more money. We're working

764
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: on a business deal. We're actually standing suit of Federan

765
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: from China to Mexico. And we had the people on

766
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: our associates that were out of town come in and

767
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: it was kind of taking a long and they were

768
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: getting a little bit like you know, impatient boarding. Our

769
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: relationship with with him was to sit down and actually

770
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: like chit chat right talk ideas, you know, dinner. This

771
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: law was gonna like I think we're looking to profit

772
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: maybe eighty million. Of course we're paying special attention to them,

773
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: I guess it being the city closed in, you know,

774
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: like we didn't like to travel because it was at

775
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: that time it was hot. What they considered the government

776
00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: was like plaint checkpoints, so we avoid was like going

777
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: to the street for anything. We locked ourselves and at home,

778
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: which we were okay with, but they were not okay

779
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: with So we have a place and can cool and

780
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: it's okay, let's go to can Come. You know, we

781
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: could just go chill over there. We cover the plane

782
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: to get ready. We have actually a jetted and this

783
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: usually transports money for emergencies from anywhere in Mexico and

784
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: we'll send it back to Chicago just in case, like

785
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: we needed like money to make a payment, like really fast.

786
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, they said it was a good idea

787
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: fast to go private, because you know, you just stand

788
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: out right. So I say, okay, we'll just jump on

789
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: a commercial plane. We'll go separate. I'm gonna learn this.

790
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: And now I didn't like telling people what we were

791
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: doing because then people knew, like, oh, you're gonna travel

792
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: by chance. Top with his his cousin and said, hey, I

793
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: need you guys, anyone of used to come take care

794
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: of some business whatever, and we're about to leave your

795
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: family too. Can't call you like what I told you, guys.

796
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: You can have just travel. You need to call and

797
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: check in. There's a big old military operation going there.

798
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: If you guys go to the airport, do it and

799
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: I coming back. They know the business, they know how

800
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: to maneuver we're learning it. We're learning it. We're like, wow,

801
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: we didn't know we were going to just fly into

802
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: a trapped We're like, okay, thanks. So we decided to

803
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: change our plans. They decided to shift their get away

804
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: from Concoon to the luxurious private resort island of Pontameter,

805
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 1: the same place where Pete and Viv got my it.

806
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: They hadn't visited for two years. We had left that

807
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: city because the Mexican government had found out that we

808
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: were there, and we already had paid up right to

809
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: the Mexican government. Yes, we used to pay vibes to

810
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: the Mexican government. Yes we would pay brides for our business,

811
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: but but not for us. And the problem is that

812
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: they found out who we were and they tried to

813
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: extort us. And we didn't want to get the organization

814
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: about because I knew it it wasn't gonna end well.

815
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: So instead we just cut off ties. We left the

816
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: home we we owned there. We just left. We just

817
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: picked up and left and left everything there. We actually

818
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: just let our personal belongings, it's just you know, whatever,

819
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:48,959
Speaker 1: cloth make sure we didn't even know a picture behind

820
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: them left to the house. Our workers packed up a

821
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: couple of bags and that was it. And the houses

822
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: under someone's name were just like, hey, don't even look

823
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: into it. You know it's going to get seen or

824
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: something something. They're gonna come up her because now they

825
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: know because I suppose you couldn't You couldn't ever sell

826
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: a house because if you did well was the government

827
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: knows that you own the property, that these goods canna

828
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: come from it. They're gonna follow trail where you know,

829
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: where the money went who sold it. So we end

830
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: up believing that our beach house I was right on

831
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 1: the beaches. It was a little getaway. You know. We

832
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: had left their two thousand five, so now we're two seven.

833
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the beach. We're gonna go

834
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: back to that same area. It's okay, we won't come on,

835
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: it's not a big deal. There's a bunch of us,

836
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 1: a bunch of my workers, probably twenty five of us,

837
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: and a couple of our associates and their families. We

838
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: decided to go to the beach and we had a

839
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: We were rented as a really big villa right on

840
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: the beach. It was expensive. It was like a probably

841
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 1: four fight down. Other than a day or SOMETI I'm

842
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: not sure. Did they have to be right? You were

843
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: hanging on the pool and stuff. Our friends are associate

844
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: decided that they were lonely. They want entertainment. I was

845
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: so tired that day. I was tired and I said

846
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: my brother, I said, I'm not going out. I'm tired.

847
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and just lay it down. I

848
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: ain't the falling sleep that wakes me up. Hey, you

849
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 1: know Peter saying for me to wake you up, and

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Speaker 1: he's saying that they want, you know, they want to

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Speaker 1: go to the strip club. And I'm like, a come

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Speaker 1: to go have fun? Like, why don't you want to

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Speaker 1: go to the strip club? I said, I'm tired. It's like,

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Speaker 1: oh I want to go. I'm like, okay, then go

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Speaker 1: with them. You know, I'm mistake here. I'm already like sleeping.

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Speaker 1: And she was like, oh, you you know, I just

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Speaker 1: don't want to go because we're it's you know, us

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Speaker 1: scoring and whatever. The kids. I don't know. So that

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Speaker 1: kind of made me all right, let's go like one

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Speaker 1: thirty two, got up, you got dressed, got ready, and

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Speaker 1: usually we would take someone with us, you know, let's

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Speaker 1: they sit out tip And since it was late, everyone's

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Speaker 1: already kind of tired. We're like, it's okay, it's late.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go. We're thinking they're gonna pick up a

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Speaker 1: couple of girls and it's gonna be easy. I have

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Speaker 1: a couple of guys with me and it's our friends,

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Speaker 1: four of them, mean Peter. When we get to strip club,

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Speaker 1: the security notices where you guys been, we just kind

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Speaker 1: of like kind of just burst off, like whatever, what

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Speaker 1: isn't they recognized, Yeah, and from being there before, yeah,

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Speaker 1: from we were actually we're lived there, so they so

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Speaker 1: you you know, yeah, you make a lot of noise,

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Speaker 1: you know, just your presence there. They start seeing you.

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Speaker 1: You you look different. We're going to strictly get us

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Speaker 1: a table, and they were the drinks. Um we're sitting

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Speaker 1: at a table, you know, of course, so they start,

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Speaker 1: you know, asking for girls and stuff. I noticed that

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Speaker 1: there was a guy at the bar. He kept kind

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Speaker 1: of looking over here, the hand just looking over a

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Speaker 1: churned to my brother and said, hey, he tells me, hey,

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Speaker 1: did you see dude? He doesn't stop looking And I know,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, could it be that they're looking at valid?

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Speaker 1: Maybe because there's the only women there practice other than

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Speaker 1: the girls that worked there. We're like probably, but and

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Speaker 1: he gave me a bad bite, like a really bad one,

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Speaker 1: and he kept looking. I'm more keeping eyed him than

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Speaker 1: anything else I tell about. And she's like, that's so

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Speaker 1: weird he is because I was like, to look at him,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna stare. He's gonta stare. And she asked me,

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Speaker 1: do you want to leave? And I didn't want to

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Speaker 1: be that first. I guessed that was just like okay,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, nah, it's fine. He gets up

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Speaker 1: collage thirty minutes later for him was like walks passed

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Speaker 1: this way, but he actually came kind of really close by,

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Speaker 1: and he's like it takes a look at us, like

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Speaker 1: up and down. You know, I can't follow him. I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking he's going to rest froom. You know what. He

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Speaker 1: I lose his sight. He had like this little khaki

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Speaker 1: hat and why I completed him. He walks out, He's gone,

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Speaker 1: not a big deal. Maybe twenty five thirty minutes passed.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm using track of time there because we're

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Speaker 1: in struggle. You know, I don't drink or anything dead hampstore.

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Speaker 1: I'm just you know, having a good time. Where people

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Speaker 1: who are there in if you know when's just here

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Speaker 1: at the banks, like a lot of banks screen where

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