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She 64 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 2: passed out up in here. Okay, the first lady is 65 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: getting the Holy ghosts. 66 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: I'm kid, no, I am no. Somebody somebody put a 67 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 3: cape over her. Bring off the stage. Oh lord, you 68 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: don't broke predicate you coming back on the stage. Don't know? 69 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 3: All right, So yeah, we. 70 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: Are ready to do this feedback. We had episodes on 71 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: The Black guyhotips dot com Each episode has its own 72 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: post and you can leave comments. You can vote in 73 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: the polls. Each episode has a poll. The feedback episode 74 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: from last week was where we started. Peaceful Warrior was 75 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: the title of it. We didn't get any comments, but 76 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: we did have a poll, and of course the poll 77 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: doesn't have any comments, but it was a simple poll. 78 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: You going out to party on New Year's Eve? Yes 79 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 3: or no? 80 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: No? 81 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 3: New Year's passed by, and so it was no. 82 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: Ninety percent of our audience was no, which means three 83 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 2: percent said yes they. 84 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 3: Were going out to party. I hope they found a 85 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 3: way to do it safely. Need to be safe, you. 86 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: Know, Like I said, it's just really an aversion of 87 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 2: how much risk can you tolerate? You know, everyone's turned 88 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: it into good bad, past fail, but it's really, you know, 89 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: how much can you tolerate? 90 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: Man? 91 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 2: I know in my county, Look, it's fifty people in 92 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,679 Speaker 2: the place. You probably you probably in there with Dorona, 93 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like, it's just that's that's 94 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: that's where we are in my county. But maybe other 95 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: counties and places don't have it as bad, because I 96 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 2: know we're definitely a hot spot right now. So episode 97 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: twenty two forty three Python, egg and cheese. 98 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 3: We had one comment. 99 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: This was from a person that did not want to 100 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,799 Speaker 2: be named anonymous. I attended the same Boston area private 101 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 2: schools it's Hillary Hayward Thomas, and was friends with her 102 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 2: older brother for a number of years. Each summer they 103 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 2: would travel to Spain, but I don't recall if they 104 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 2: had a family connection. I haven't spoken to her brother 105 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 2: since the early two thousands, when the whole family packed 106 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: up and moved to Malca More Mallorca, and didn't follow 107 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: her career beyond knowing that she was a yoga instructor 108 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 2: married to old Trump impersonator Alec Baldwin Gross. I had 109 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 2: no idea that she had become a pseudo celebrity until 110 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: this week. 111 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: Were you been? 112 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 2: Here are the few things I remember about them that 113 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: I have not seen on my timeline. About ten years ago, 114 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 2: a school administrator told me that Hillary was calling around 115 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 2: her alma maters to instruct the schools not to comment 116 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: to reporters or media about her education history. When told 117 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: this story, the punchline was she started calling herself Hilaria 118 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: and there was no indication this was part of a 119 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 2: grander Khan. Both Hillary and her brother and had dirty 120 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: blond or light brown hair throughout high school, so I 121 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: was surprised by how she looks today. One of the 122 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: reasons the friendship with her older brother ended was because 123 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: of the persona he assumed when he got to high school. 124 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: My fellow b BIPOC b IPOC students referred to him 125 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: as white Homie number one, not to be confused with 126 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: white Homie number two, a very pale ginger from Belmont. 127 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: I guess it runs in the family. So he was 128 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: getting a little too white Homie number one. 129 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: Was he getting a little too comfortable? Like what was 130 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 3: the you say ended? Was a cousin's persona that he assumed? 131 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: So or did he get to high school and change 132 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: and was like, I'm done with the hanging out with 133 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 2: these black people? 134 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: And I was like, right, yeah. And BIPOD. 135 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: Is a phrase that means black, indigenous and people of color. 136 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: So in case you don't know, b I POC, that's 137 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: what that means. I'm not one hundred cent sure. I 138 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: think it used to just be like people of color, 139 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: but now people are adding it's such a I don't know, 140 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: I thought, I guess black and indigenous need their own categorization. 141 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: For some folks, it's a very academic term that's catching 142 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: on on Twitter and uh and stuff. I honestly don't 143 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: understand the usefulness of it compared to just like people 144 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: of color, but you know whatever. In my presence, no 145 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: one in the family presented as anything but white. They 146 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: did not speak Spanish at home, and neither parents spoke 147 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,679 Speaker 2: with an accent. The family was old money rich still 148 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: remember their massive, five bedroom, five bath towel house on 149 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 2: Beacon Hill, the most expensive neighborhood in Boston. Zillow estimated 150 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: the price is five point six million. Damn, you did 151 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,239 Speaker 2: your research like Twitter. Cus on the come. 152 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 3: On, have a happy New Year. 153 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: A New England private school administrator. All right, well. 154 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: The tea was filled. 155 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 2: Okay, come on, you kept all the receipts and we 156 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: thank you for it. 157 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 3: We do. 158 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: Who knew that we had a connection to white people 159 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: news on the show. I always look at it as 160 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: day news, you know what I mean? We knew we 161 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: had a poll. Would you eat python? 162 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 3: Yes? No? Or I already ate eat python? Karen? Yes yes? 163 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: Thirty five percent of the audience agrees with Karen. They 164 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: would eat python. 165 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 3: I think I would try. 166 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 2: I tried python egg and cheese, you know, being on 167 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 2: how to cook it? Sixty three percent said no, they 168 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 2: would not eat no motherfucking python. 169 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 3: And but we've. 170 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: A alligator and all types of stuff, so I don't mind. 171 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: I'll try almost anything once and I already eat python. 172 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: One vote, so got that going. Scheyanne says, y'all had 173 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: me at python salad? Uh Leslie says python egg and 174 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:17,599 Speaker 2: cheese with some avocado. 175 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 3: Why not? 176 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: Shaye says, I grew up eating chitlins, the hot dogs 177 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: and whatever meat is in them, can Vienna sausages. 178 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 3: I'm well past the point of turning up my nose 179 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: at a little bit of snake. 180 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: You probably gonna ate some snake and didn't know it. 181 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure we have ate some snake. If you 182 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: if you ever had spam, you know you. 183 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 3: Probably ate somena, ate good old fashioned hot dog. 184 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: We know there's no animals that grow up like that 185 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: that that our spam shaped at all. Lakita says, I 186 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: tried deer jerky with one of my white coworkers. Went 187 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: went honey once and it tasted like bamby. I tried 188 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 2: jerky too. I don't know what it is, man, but 189 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 2: dear to me. 190 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 3: It is not good. Yeah. 191 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: Like I said, I've never had it, but from what 192 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: people have told me, dere is something you have to 193 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: do a special type of way or else it could 194 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: taste gamey, which you need to taste like wow, like 195 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:11,599 Speaker 1: this a particular way you have to do it to 196 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: get that like that taste out of And if you 197 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: don't do it right, a lot of people say it's 198 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: not good. 199 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I don't 200 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 3: know what it is about it, But deer, I've tried 201 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,239 Speaker 3: it multiple times. 202 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: It's never been good to me. It tastes so gamy. 203 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,239 Speaker 2: You know, I guess I need my foods processed. Uh 204 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 2: Lakita says I tried did jerk? Oh yeah, yes, I 205 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 2: know that that was. It tastes like Bambi. Yes, I 206 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 2: know that was some psychological shit. 207 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 3: But I'm good. I'm not an adventurous either. 208 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 2: Well you, I mean, listen, I think the correct term 209 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: is it tastes like Bambie's mother. Okay, Bamba survived, Yeah, 210 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 2: Bambie survived, So you ate Bambi's mom. Episode twenty forty four, 211 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 2: International House of pandemic. We had some A couple comments. 212 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: See Baby says who the thunk we get super gonneria 213 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: in the middle of a panty? I know, right in 214 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: the dab middle of it. Just nasty as could be. 215 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 3: Ramsey D. 216 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: Jenkins says five stars. I enjoyed my walk yesterday, especially 217 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: the segments on gop slash wap, gop slash w a P. 218 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 2: I cackled so much I had to stop several times 219 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: during my walk. 220 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 3: Happy New Year? What else? What? We love to hear. 221 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 2: You're healthy, y'all here walking and then you got your 222 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: muscles going in your stomach and your diaphragm from laughing. 223 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 2: It's like an extra workout, and we're happy to help 224 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: you know. SI out to New Year's has a difference 225 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: of politics with the lover. Ever messed up your sex life, 226 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 2: yes or no? 227 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 3: Not for me. 228 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: I will have sex with any kind of Republican. Okay, 229 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 2: I don't give a fu. Okay Karen is a whole 230 00:11:55,440 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: ass libertarian. No, we be here having and I'll be 231 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: smashing them socialist cakes to smitherings. 232 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 3: All right. I don't know who lied, do you? No? 233 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I've never had this issue, but I've never 234 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: dated somebody whose politics are different than mine, so same anyway? 235 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 2: Twenty eight percent say yes, yeah, wow, I mean but 236 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: it makes sense. 237 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 3: I mean you could be. 238 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 2: The thing I would wonder is how many of them 239 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 2: were same race? And then you was like, nigga, you 240 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: a what you don't happen? 241 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 3: Like you just be. 242 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: Talking also, and they throwing a couple of Michael Steel bars. 243 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 2: You be like, wait a minute, wait a. 244 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 3: Minute, who do you vote for? Uh No? 245 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: Seventy two percent Serious moon Night says I actually stopped 246 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: seeing a guy I was dating because he told me 247 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: he was thinking about voting for Bush. 248 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 3: If you vote GOP, you get no love from me. 249 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 3: I hear you. Lakita says no. 250 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 2: In the Year Beyonce twenty twenty one, I'm gonna need 251 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 2: your politics up front. Maybe it's because I'm demi sexual. 252 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: There's no way I can disagree with you on fundamental 253 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: shit like right and still find you some kind of sexy. 254 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 3: I have to know and like you. Yeah, I'm the 255 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 3: same way man, Like I don't. 256 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I get the concept, don't don't get me wrong, 257 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: but it's just not something I would ever want to do, 258 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: is have sex with somebody I don't like or somebody 259 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 2: I disagree with, like the idea of people have a 260 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 2: like I'm a hate fuck you, or you know, I'm like, 261 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 2: let's have sex, right, you know, during the middle of 262 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: argument or some I'm like, nigga, what the fuck is 263 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: wrong with you? 264 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 3: Like I don't need that trauma in my life, Like 265 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 3: resolve this shit first. Yeah, I like living sex. 266 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: I don't know about nobody else, you know, I'm WoT 267 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: some affection behind it. 268 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: I don't nobody's fucking me and also talking about my 269 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 2: vote need to be suppressed, like there's some weird type 270 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: of BDSM as a whole. 271 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 3: I'm not ready for that. That's a whole. Yeah, that's 272 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: the I'm not I don't get that one. I will 273 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 3: excuse myself from that room. 274 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: Episode twenty two forty five Snatch Mackenzie. We had some 275 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 2: comments hay Co Pastor Carring and Rod and the opening 276 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 2: of episode twenty two forty five. 277 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 3: He talked about teching schools. This has been a mess. 278 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: Sister internet was introduced to schools in the early two thousands. 279 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 2: This data mining was called school based action research. Schools 280 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: received a considerable discount on software if they allowed us 281 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: to do this research. Every district I visited up and 282 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: down the East Coast allowed it. Here's what I know 283 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: as of twenty twenty. School districts vet software hard and 284 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: this is why it takes a while for anything to 285 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 2: be purchased and implemented district wide. Prior to the last 286 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: eight to ten years, a lot of school districts didn't 287 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 2: really see their data as worthy of being stolen, so 288 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 2: the focus was mainly on keeping the kids away from 289 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: JIB predators and born during those eight to ten years. 290 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: When software that was approved and purchased, the companies would 291 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: track tack on a free extras after implementation. Eventually, it 292 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: departments realized that the free features are really sneaky data 293 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: collection techniques or low key sales pitches students and teachers, 294 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 2: so they can demand district wide. 295 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 3: Licenses to include the free features. 296 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: Now that districts know, we turn the data amount and 297 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: piece off at the district level at ad provisions and 298 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 2: contracts that they cannot turn on extras, and the data 299 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: belongs to us operated on our service. Additionally, individual schools 300 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: have their own budgets if they keep their spending below 301 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 2: a certain number determined by each school district. A school 302 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: can base basically purchase whatever they want. Software companies know this, 303 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: so they will invoice the schools just below the amount. 304 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 2: For example, if the max for a school based purchase 305 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: to make it through the procurement is one thousand dollars, 306 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 2: the software company will build a school nine hundred dollars 307 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: several times to cover the total cost of four thousand 308 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: dollars and stay under the radar. 309 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 3: Wow, that's sneaky. 310 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: They can track any data manding crap that they want 311 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: because most principles only care about security when it comes 312 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: to child predators and bullying. If the IT department finds 313 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: out but has weak leadership, the school gets to keep 314 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: the software, including the data mount and peace with regard 315 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: to the free software. A lot of the classroom teachers 316 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: are targeted by companies to trick them into turning over 317 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: student data. Annoyingly, teachers use the web based software and 318 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: apps for instruction and record and record keep keeping on 319 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: without well, I'm sorry for no, let me get this right. 320 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: Teachers use the web based software and apps for instruction 321 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: and record keeping on without considering how the data is 322 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: used because they too are often focused on keeping the 323 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: kids from bullying and sexual predators. While we can block 324 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: the sites from being accessed throughout the schools and networks, 325 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: teachers use these sites from home and use their own 326 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 2: devices in the school buildings, couple with their own internet 327 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: source hotspots and tablets. Yeah, because a lot of teachers 328 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 2: have to bring that shit to school because we don't 329 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: provide enough money for them to like not be utilizing 330 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: their personal resources. 331 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: And the shit don't work. At the time of bad connection, 332 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: were like, I'm not as well. 333 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 3: Just use what I paid for. 334 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 2: But during COVID, teachers are using these sites more and 335 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: more to a size supplemental lessons and so kids are 336 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 2: using these sites from their home. 337 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 3: It's a mass sign and anonymous source. Yo. 338 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: I didn't even think about this though, But that's some 339 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 2: real shit. Is during the pandemic, you're relying on the 340 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 2: software in a way that you probably weren't as much 341 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: when you did in persons lessons. So who knows what 342 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 2: we're gonna That might be Another thing coming out of 343 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 2: the pandemic that we didn't see coming is like how 344 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 2: much data has been collected about us now that we're 345 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: all electronic. 346 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why, for particularly with Zoom, that was 347 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: a problem with Zoom because Zoom was with the fucking 348 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: Zoom to everybody using Zoom now, and Zoom ran into 349 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: a lot of that problem with hacking and people bombing 350 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: and all that shit because they were not prepared for 351 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: the growth of people using it in people's personal information, 352 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: you know, being accessed like that, you know that faces, 353 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: their images, you know, their pictures, you know, and shit 354 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: like that. And that's why for a lot of people 355 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: they use. 356 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 3: In my job, used like teams. 357 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: Not that it's perfect, but it has more protection against 358 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: things like that, and you kind of have to be 359 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: in a network, like not anybody can just come and 360 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: join and all that stuff. Like they have safety features 361 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: involved the zoomers, you know, over the past a few months, 362 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: you know, maybe year or two, just started implementing certain 363 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: things because like you said, they don't think about these 364 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: things until after the fact that like you say, when 365 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: you know, years go around and we have this study 366 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five and they were like, you know, 367 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: tech companies have three point five billion you know, gigabytes 368 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: and gigabytes whatever the bytes is on your kids, and 369 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: you know, and they you know, since they've been tracking 370 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: your kids since they were born, and shit like that, 371 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: and everybody's gonna be like what. 372 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: Even he says, it felt like Buger said. He said 373 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: what he said because he's jealous. 374 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 3: These younger players. 375 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 2: Are getting endorsements and making a lot of money, much 376 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 2: more than he had when he was playing. I'm sure 377 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: if he would have played in an era of tech 378 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 2: and social media, he would have been a brand too, right, Yeah, 379 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: I think what gets lost in this whole thing, and 380 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 2: I just want to bring us back here real quick. 381 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 3: This wasn't about branding. 382 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 2: It wasn't a like no one thinks Dwayne Haskins is 383 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 2: this guy who's overly concerned with his bad his brand 384 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: as a football player. He was at the Strip Club 385 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 2: being very stupid and irresponsible. You know, the complaints that 386 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 2: they have from within the Washington football team that have 387 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: leaked out about him, none of them are about arrogance 388 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: or branding or anything. It's like he doesn't want to 389 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 2: work hard. He shows up lade. You know, it's a 390 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 2: bunch of stuff that every once in a while there's 391 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: a certain group of young people, not even group, because 392 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 2: there's always individual people in every group who are kind 393 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: of like, now, I'm not gonna give my best on this. 394 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna waste this opportunity. That is just that shit 395 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 2: that he lost. Mean when he made that a black thing, 396 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: that's it. Too many black people being excellent, being great, 397 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: being and just being damn competent, not even like greater excellent, 398 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 2: just too many black people that do not fall into that. 399 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: And that's before you get to, like you said, the 400 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 2: jealousy and stuff, which is why I think, I think 401 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 2: you're absolutely right the jealousy and shit came from. That's 402 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 2: why he jumped to branding and social media and all 403 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 2: this shit, because because he's jealous of the type of 404 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: people that do that, and he is one of those 405 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: like people that he needs to examine himself and why 406 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 2: it bothers him so much when a black person does 407 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 2: that but not when a white person does that. And 408 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 2: if so, why do you make that our problem by 409 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 2: going on national TV and saying that, you know, because 410 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 2: that seems like, even if it is a problem, that's 411 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 2: more of an in community discussion. But I just think 412 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 2: you should be damn sure that that's a problem. I 413 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 2: feel the same way about him saying that that I 414 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 2: felt when you know, Obama gives a speech to the 415 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: like graduation, and he's kind of like talking about the 416 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 2: black people that didn't do. 417 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 3: Good and didn't make and didn't graduate and didn't room. 418 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, Nah, we don't need to do that, 419 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: because who's that for really? 420 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 3: You know, I don't like I don't like when we 421 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 3: do that. 422 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 2: That's not to say there's never a time where you 423 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 2: can't be like, these are cultural issues within the community, 424 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 2: but you just need to be right. 425 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 3: And you need to have that place. You need to 426 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 3: get the time. 427 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 2: And the and the time and place matters. 428 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 3: It does. The poe was should cops be able to 429 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 3: joke about shooting political figures? Yes? 430 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 2: No? 431 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 3: Or I'm a cop no? Wow? 432 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 2: Well, in a very rare, rare circumstance, two weeks in 433 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 2: a row we got one. One hundred percent of people 434 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,239 Speaker 2: said no what Yeah, no, I guess we don't have 435 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 2: no cops that listen to the show that disagree with that. 436 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, no one said yes, So good because that 437 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 2: one to me was a layup, like you should not 438 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 2: be able to can be a cop and talk about 439 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 2: shooting shooting political figures. That's just seems like a hard 440 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 2: line and the saying what should be doing? We had 441 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 2: episode twenty two forty five psychedelics fixed racism? 442 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 3: We got two comments. 443 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 2: Male les this comment regardless, psychedelics as a treatment for 444 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: racism related trauma. This is actually something I teach about 445 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 2: in my behavioral neuroscience class. 446 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 3: Why are our listeners so smart? What the fuck is happening? 447 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: It's like, excuse me, excuse me. I hate to be 448 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: that person, but this is what I do for a living. 449 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 3: Good God, how famous is this show? 450 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: Right? 451 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 3: We can't even you smarty niggas listening. 452 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 2: We can't even make jokes about niggas doing drugs to 453 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 2: get rid of racism without some one being. 454 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 3: Like, well, actually, actually, I've done a study on that. 455 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 3: I've readen the paper. I give niggas drugs, Yeah, but 456 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 3: black dynamite, I give niggas drugs. It's all racism. Like, 457 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 3: God damn it, it's real. And I was joking anyway. 458 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 2: This is not us being liken't write in No, this 459 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 2: is us being like God damn, this is crazy, right. 460 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 2: I didn't know when I covered that article anyone would 461 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: have anything to contribute. 462 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 3: I thought the shit was just weird, But here we go. 463 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: That was an important point missing from the news article 464 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 2: about the study These treatments are recommended specifically for folks 465 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: who have developed PTSD in response to trauma from a 466 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 2: specific racist encounter, be it direct or indirect, and not 467 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: just racism generally. 468 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 3: In particular, this. 469 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: Treatment is effective for PTSD where traditional drug therapy is ineffective, 470 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 2: although generally psychedelics are a much more effective approach relative 471 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 2: to traditional drug therapy, which takes eight weeks minoum to 472 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 2: show any effects, if at all, and can take years 473 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: to get the correct doses drug combo as opposed to 474 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 2: once monthly treatment slash sessions. This approach has been criticized 475 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: by some scientific appropriation of indigenous practices because it is 476 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 2: not simply that you drop acid and hey out while 477 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: you trip balls. You're actually got it through several hours 478 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 2: long therapy session with the trade clinician while the drugs 479 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 2: are active. Essentially, the therapist serves in the shaman role 480 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 2: and walks you through the trauma to contextualize it and 481 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 2: give you the cognitive tools to navigate it without having 482 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 2: a trauma memory rise in response to every race related 483 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 2: social cue, which in this country is important because most 484 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 2: things come back to race in some shape or form. 485 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 2: Recent evidence suggests that by revisiting the trauma with the therapist. 486 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 2: While in this state, your brain resets its error prediction 487 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 2: for ques that. 488 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 3: Trigger the trauma response. 489 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: The brain is really good at prediction, and because of this, 490 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 2: for patients with severe PTSD, if something reminds you of 491 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 2: your trauma, your brain predicts that the same violence is 492 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 2: about to happen to you again with near one hundred 493 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 2: percent certainty, and your body literally shifts in the panic mode. 494 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 2: With this hypothesized reset and error prediction, rather than you 495 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: persistently having trauma related panic and anxiety, your brain down 496 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 2: regulates that predictive certainty of trauma and violence from one 497 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 2: hundred percent to more or less equivalent with other more 498 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 2: likely outcomes, not all of which are harmful outcomes and 499 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 2: some of which are potentially beneficial outcomes. Then, using other 500 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 2: cognitive tools learn from therapy, you're better able to live 501 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 2: to just live life without your trauma controlling your response. 502 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 2: Sorry for the long response, but black aademics are never 503 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 2: short winded. It's a feature and a bug. 504 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you right now. I'm about to get 505 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 3: high as fuck soon as we get done this show. 506 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 3: It's not the same I've been dealing with some specific 507 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 3: racialism trauma, and I'm about to hit a couple of 508 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 3: these caps. You know what I'm saying. I might do 509 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 3: some heroin. Okay, that's the kind of trauma I'm talking 510 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 3: about this. 511 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: Well, there are drugs in this house, that's right, but 512 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: by nobody's prescribed drugs. 513 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 3: Oh okay, you're talking about the legal ones. Yes, I'm sorry, 514 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 3: we're gonna say something. Oh we got them worms, the 515 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 3: CBDs worms. Yeah, I mean that just helps and you'll sleep. 516 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 3: That's not for enough trauma and shit. 517 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 2: But I know at one point though, I was feeling 518 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 2: anxious and they helped me through that. 519 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,239 Speaker 3: I mean, I put a lot of it towards that. 520 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: But yeah, that's interesting because the article definitely didn't go 521 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 2: into details about the Shiman experience and whatnot. 522 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: So no, and also thank you for going through that 523 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: those details because what you described, honestly, baby, is how 524 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people respond online where you're talking about 525 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: the mind and how a lot of people just assume 526 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: it's a one hundred percent prediction that this is how 527 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: it's going to end. And this is why you get 528 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: the responses you do own people online because something traumatic 529 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 1: has happened to them, and they just keep resetting to 530 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: this point, and anything that triggers it, they keep resetting 531 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: to that same point. And so what you said makes 532 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: a lot of sense to me, and for some people, 533 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: this particular method may be very productive to help them 534 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: regulate it where everything is not one hundred percent panic mode. 535 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I always say, Like, if somebody's being like, man, 536 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 2: I just watched you know, this video, this black death, 537 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 2: and I'm so triggered right now and I'm feeling, you know, 538 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 2: a lot of trauma, I'll be like, Yo, try some 539 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 2: of this cocaine, you know what I mean, like work, 540 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: and then I'm gonna sit there and I'm gonna guide 541 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 2: you through it. 542 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna help you the whole situation. Don't 543 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 3: y'all listen to him. 544 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: This nigga ain't got nobody's degrees, ain't no letters behind 545 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: his name. 546 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 3: Don't y'all listen to him. 547 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 2: You see how we do black people? Yes, yeah, we 548 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 2: do each other. We tear each other down. Help I should. 549 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to help fellow black people going through 550 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 2: racial trauma. 551 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: You better close your third eye, doctor Morrow. 552 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 2: Wow, you really you really hate to see this, man, 553 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 2: I sure do. Like sometimes I don't. Man, Sometimes I'll 554 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: you know, I'll just be hanging out with somebody and 555 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 2: they'll start crying and they'll be like, man, I had 556 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 2: some real fucked up racial shit happened to me, And 557 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 2: I'll be like, tell me your story over this heroin. Okay, 558 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 2: were about to do to pull up your sleeve and 559 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 2: let me get my needle, and were about to fucking 560 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 2: go there. 561 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 3: We're gonna solve this shit tonight. Okay. 562 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 2: All right, Well you know y'all know what, y'all know 563 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 2: where to find me, Eve, He says, don't you ever 564 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 2: get tired of the Rby slander? Whenever I go to 565 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: Rvy's there's always a line there are a successful chain 566 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 2: because they have the meats, the fact that they are, 567 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 2: that they're able to buy the fact they're able to 568 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 2: buy these other chains, and testament to the greatness you 569 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 2: hate her. 570 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 3: Uh to me, it sounds like you clearly are in 571 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 3: on the conspiracy. 572 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 2: And I've suspected this for a long time that whatever 573 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 2: money liner and scheme they have, Ev is definitely a 574 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 2: lobbyist for Big Rvy, and she probably be paying the 575 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 2: Trump administration to look the other way on all this 576 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 2: financial mouthfeas insty're trying to start a monopoly. 577 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 3: He loves RB and right, she does love them. 578 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 2: Love the checks from Big Arby, those sorrows checks that 579 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 2: you're probably getting, you know, they probably paying you a 580 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 2: roast beef sandwiches or some shit. And and then you 581 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: want to try to come on, come on our show 582 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 2: and use our platform in super roast beef to try 583 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 2: to provide cover for the biggest drift in in food 584 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: in fast food history. 585 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 3: Shits small. At least you're making money off of it, 586 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 3: not on my wife. People out here doing it for free. 587 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 2: We're not making no money off of it. And you 588 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 2: won't be using my platform to do that. You're not 589 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 2: gonna promote that shit on here. Okay, we all know 590 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: the truth. No one's ever had to wait in line 591 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 2: at Arby's. 592 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,959 Speaker 3: No one's ever been like, oh man, the new Arby's 593 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 3: blank sandwiches out. You can't you can't even get in 594 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 3: there today. No one's ever said that. 595 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 2: The poe was have you ever done psychedelics? Yes and 596 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 2: I'm black, Yes but I'm not. 597 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 3: Black, Or no, No, I haven't done. 598 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: Them, Yes but I'm not black. We had two percent 599 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 2: that yes, and I'm black. Twenty two percent of the 600 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 2: audience these niggas go in. 601 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 3: And seventy six percent said no. Shady Day, it's a 602 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 3: square and I've come to that alusion. I don't know 603 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 3: about nobody's drugs. 604 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 2: Shady Dan says my sister uses psychedelics and therapy to 605 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 2: help with all the trauma that she's endured in her life. 606 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 2: She said it works, wonders and has helped things click 607 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 2: without putting too much of her business in the streets. 608 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 2: I've seen her make advances that talk therapy would have 609 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 2: taken much longer. She's had hell of breakthroughs, and we 610 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: discussed her light bulb moments often. According to my sister 611 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 2: with PTSD, talk therapy can only take you so far. 612 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 2: She's been doing LSD shrooms since summer. She's improved by 613 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 2: leads some bowels. PTSD is real, it can be debilitating 614 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 2: for many. It works wonders, though it is really expensive 615 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 2: and most insurance won't pay for it without requiring that. 616 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 3: You jumped through hoops. I'm sure that she. 617 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: Was open to it in an option as an option 618 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 2: because our parents were always more than open to therapy 619 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 2: and thankfully they were open to having us in therapy 620 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: early enough. Yes, we're privileged to have a foundation that 621 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 2: allows us to explore mental health, and she's privileged enough 622 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 2: to have great health insurance through her job and the 623 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 2: means to pay the co pay for the treatment and 624 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 2: the mess it works, wonders, So if you can do it, 625 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 2: it helps cut out all the noise. 626 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 3: Lakita says. I voted no, but I turned forty this year. 627 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 3: God damn it. I want to talk to the grass, 628 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 3: and the grass tossed back. Yeah, I'll hear you. Get 629 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 3: out here and get the tripping balls, man, you gots 630 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 3: to do it. We didn't get any phone calls. 631 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 2: This week, but we did have a few emails, Adrian says. 632 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 2: High Riding Care says shameless plug from a longtime fan. 633 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,239 Speaker 2: I've been listening to you guys since the days when 634 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 2: Riot's calling the twelve, and no matter what Elon would 635 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 2: ask him, his answer would be chilling and chilling. You 636 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 2: have taught me so much on every level over these 637 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 2: years and literally continually changed my life. Tonight, I'm reaching 638 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 2: out with a shameless plug, but I think you may 639 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 2: be genuinely interested, and I'm finding the nerve to reach 640 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 2: out because of an overflowing with love respect for my sweetie 641 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 2: who just made a documentary and ate days with no 642 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 2: money and it turned out so good. It's rall real 643 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 2: and tells the story of an LA underground hip hop 644 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 2: collective called Project Blowed. Able to Vernet's first film about 645 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 2: this crew back when they started out at the Good 646 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 2: Life Cafe in the Crenshaw District. She was an MC 647 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 2: back then as Eve, one of the two MC's and 648 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 2: the duo figures of speech. If you want to hear 649 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 2: Ava rapping, you can actually hear her from one Abstract Ruse, 650 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 2: one of Abstract Rule's earliest albums when he was with 651 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 2: the group Abstract Tribe. Unique on this track called Eve 652 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 2: Interlude and it's a Spotify link. 653 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 3: Her film was called This Is the Life and then Launch. 654 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 3: It launched her career. 655 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the rappers of the Good Life and its successive 656 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 2: Project Blow continue to make music and nurture the culture 657 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 2: regardless of the direction the corporate music industry was going. 658 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 2: The Good Life Cafe and Project Blowed were both weekly 659 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 2: open mic workshops that. 660 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 3: Built skills and showcase talent. 661 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 2: Some of the more famous groups out of this lineage 662 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 2: include Freestyle, Fellowship and Durass five, but so many of 663 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 2: the other lesser known artists from these collectors have vast 664 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 2: cat of loogs of incredible underground classics that have been 665 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: dedicated that have dedicated fans from around the world. Project 666 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 2: Blow just celebrated their twenty sixth anniversary with a documentary 667 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 2: on a black owned pay per view. 668 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 3: Platform called Flee Lead TV. That's f l e A 669 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 3: Lee l e E TV. 670 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 2: Since COVID prohibited them from holding their annual anniversary concert. 671 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 2: It's ten dollars and the money goes directly into the 672 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 2: artist's pockets. The link is here and it's a link 673 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 2: to I guess Blow documentary. The film is made from 674 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 2: pure love and whatever. It's honors to elders and the youth. 675 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 2: I just had to let you know about it. 676 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 3: Much love and respect for both of you and what 677 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 3: you give every day your fan. 678 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 2: Adrian, Thanks Adrian, thank you. 679 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: You were saying we didn't get any voicemails for those 680 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: of you that was like, y'all get voicemails, Yeah we do. 681 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: You can leave us a voicemail at seven O four 682 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: five five seven zero one eighty six that number again. 683 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 3: Is seven o four five five seven zero six. 684 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: You can leave us a voicemail it has to be 685 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: two minutes or less because our voicemail does not care 686 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: about your feelings and it will cut you off. 687 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 2: And then we got an email that was just someone 688 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 2: letting us know that it shipped us something. And as 689 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 2: I clicked on it, it literally just said it was 690 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: delivered like twenty one minutes ago. So we got to 691 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 2: go pick that up and I'm sure we'll be talking 692 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 2: about that next week on the show. 693 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 3: Yes, And then we got another email. 694 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 2: Snats Mackenzie fights for respectability in Cloud sinuses Mark Wright saying, Hi, 695 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 2: Rod and Karen, thanks to you both for a year 696 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 2: full of content. I was able to pursue a good 697 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 2: degree of your content over the past two weeks. The 698 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 2: Gospel of Booger was discussed on both the Blackout Tips 699 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 2: and Bossty Sports, so feel free to discuss it either 700 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 2: feedback form. I add a what's up for justin in 701 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 2: case you read it there. The world needs a comprehensive 702 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 2: study of black people. What percentage of black people act 703 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 2: we participate in the activities for which we are routinely 704 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 2: associated and for comparison, what percentage of each other racial 705 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 2: and or ethnic groups do these same things. But because 706 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 2: we don't have this study, these media commentators just speak 707 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 2: from the top of their heads about what they think 708 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 2: people do. And since his head is obviously Clyde with mucus, 709 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 2: isn't that why he's called that McFarland's data seems a 710 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 2: bit sticky. It's for shows like to report on player 711 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 2: abound feasans is regardlesses of size or type. Everybody has 712 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 2: incorrect notions of the extent of which problems extent exist. 713 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 2: But if seventy percent of the NFL players identify as black, 714 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 2: there doesn't seem to be a similarly large amount of impropriety. Somehow, 715 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 2: every week does as of black players make it to 716 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 2: the field. Conversely, and am I to believed that none 717 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 2: of the white athletes, save for maybe Gronk, get into 718 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 2: any sort of shenanigans. 719 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 3: Just a bunch of. 720 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 2: Alabaster angels in bed by nine pm playbook under the pillow, 721 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 2: willing to risk their purity by consorting with the color. 722 00:35:59,400 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 3: For the game. 723 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, they always and then when you bring that up, 724 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 2: they'll always pull the Well, I just care about black people. 725 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,959 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, your job is not speaking on black 726 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 2: people in the NFL, speaking on the NFL, right, So 727 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 2: you can't pull that shit. This isn't black Church. This 728 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 2: is a fucking job, man, do it. Because these topics 729 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,240 Speaker 2: devolve in the commentary. There's rarely anyone with the Kleenex 730 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 2: to catch these drippings. Adam Schefter wasn't going to have 731 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 2: any kind of response to this statement. He and the 732 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,760 Speaker 2: other white person president did not want to touch that rocket, 733 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 2: right and yeah, and then basically Randy Moss just sat 734 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 2: there kind of agreeing but didn't like elaborate. 735 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 3: Ultimately, I agree with you all. 736 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 2: It was not necessary to have a referendum on the 737 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 2: blacks because of the actions are one way with brother, 738 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 2: I'm sure that McFarlan had the attention of being helpful 739 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 2: the way many do in pointing this out. 740 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's now. 741 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 2: That is the one thing I'll say, because people were 742 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 2: calling him a coon and all this type of shit, 743 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 2: don't I. 744 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 3: Didn't go that far because I really I'm black, I'm 745 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 3: from the South. 746 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 2: I understand that this is a mentality that some black 747 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 2: folks have and they really do mean it with love 748 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 2: for a lot of people. We have lost that because 749 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 2: we're on the internet. Everything is black and white. Social media. 750 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 2: Everything is an attack and it's trauma and whatever. I understand. 751 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 2: You know, it's the same way many a black parent has. 752 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 3: Had to look at their child and been like, I 753 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,760 Speaker 3: have to pick between I want my child to be free, 754 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 3: but I also know they can't get hired for the 755 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 3: job that they want looking this way or you know 756 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,240 Speaker 3: what I mean. I don't mean looking black. I mean like, Okay, 757 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 3: if you go into that interview with Dredge, you're probably 758 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 3: not gonna get it. I don't want to be the 759 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 3: one to tell you this, and I also don't want 760 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 3: you back at home pouting and being like I didn't 761 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:44,760 Speaker 3: get the job. What happened? 762 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: You know? 763 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,800 Speaker 3: So I have to fit do my duty to inform you. 764 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 2: You know, when you're going to whatever this event is, 765 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 2: there's a dress code, and yes, you should be free 766 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 2: to do whatever you want to with your body. 767 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 3: No one should be able to tell you how to do. 768 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 2: But if you walk in there with your pants sagging, 769 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,280 Speaker 2: you are definitely not gonna get into that into that facility. 770 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 2: You know, shit like that that black people have to 771 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 2: balance every day, and that's not exclusive to black people, 772 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 2: right there's there's white. 773 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 3: People that you know, they look at their kids and 774 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 3: be like, you know, you're. 775 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 2: Gonna have to cut that hair or you got the 776 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 2: the fucking you know, piercing that connects from your lip 777 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 2: to your nose to your ear. 778 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 3: And unless you're. 779 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,959 Speaker 2: Gonna go to hot topic, you're not getting the job 780 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,280 Speaker 2: at Juakovia in the internship. So like, that's not exclusively 781 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 2: a black thing, but that doesn't necessarily for me exclude 782 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 2: that person from still being a good Black person. That 783 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 2: just that the way they care is just they care differently, 784 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 2: or they the things they emphasize they're saying out of 785 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 2: love and to protect you. And you can decide how 786 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 2: much weight you want to put on that. You know, 787 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 2: it's like Steven A. Smith talk talking about like people 788 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 2: shit on Stephen A. Smith because he get that I 789 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 2: was into respectability many times. But at the same time 790 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 2: they always forget how. 791 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 3: Well loved Stephen A. 792 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 2: Smith is in the industry by other black people because 793 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,879 Speaker 2: he's one of those people that takes black people under 794 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 2: their wing and guides them through the process of like 795 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 2: this is how to make it at ESPN, this is 796 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 2: how to make it in this industry. 797 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 3: So when you know. 798 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 2: So it's a real j justicaposition, and it's hard for 799 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 2: us to really understand when it's like, yes, Steven A. Smith, 800 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 2: you think he's a coon, but stack Jack and Matt 801 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 2: Barnes love the dude down. Now, how can that exist 802 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 2: at the same fucking time, because you know them dudes 803 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 2: are some dudes that don't play that shit, you know 804 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 2: what I mean, So respect him, Yeah, you know, so, 805 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 2: It's just it's just hard for it's so anyway all 806 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 2: that shit to say, Like, I think Bugger was wrong here. 807 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,839 Speaker 2: He shouldn't have made it about race. I understand where 808 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,879 Speaker 2: it's coming from. He probably was trying to help. 809 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter, I think ultimately in this instance it's unhelpful. 810 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 3: It might be a great guy, but this was very unhelpful. 811 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. And also you can do something with the intentions 812 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 1: of love behind it and still the results could be 813 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: harmful and people don't understand that. 814 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 2: Absolutely are sure many barbershops and congregations agree with him. 815 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 2: It's like an old head writer passage. I heard these 816 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 2: things when I was younger, I have no doubt said 817 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,399 Speaker 2: it later to younger people, but not as much since 818 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 2: I try to watch for this like with your conversation 819 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,919 Speaker 2: about music, it's a portant expand one's viewpoint to accommodate change. 820 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 2: Newer styles may be different, or in ten years, Dwayne 821 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 2: Haskin will be one of those in the studio chairs 822 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 2: complaining about these new dudes. Anyway, thank you very much, 823 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,959 Speaker 2: Happy New year. Thank you for right then, and m yeah, 824 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 2: I mean it does feel a little bit like a 825 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 2: writer a passage. I've tried to avoid it, Like you know, 826 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 2: in a lot. 827 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 3: Of the ways I view shit, I'm just like, I 828 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 3: don't ever want to be that old guy shitting on 829 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 3: young black people for being young and black. 830 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 2: And in this case, it was so off base because 831 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 2: it didn't plot of this situation in any mother fucking way. 832 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 1: It was his actions, not about his social media presence, 833 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: not about him boasting, not about Internet Instagram, because none 834 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 1: of this happened on social I mean, it happened on 835 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: social media, but it's not like he was out here just. 836 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 2: Well no, no, he never posted to social media like 837 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 2: someone took a picture of him and and was like 838 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 2: he's at the strip club right now. 839 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 3: This was never about branding. It wasn't about social media. Okay, 840 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 3: that's what I thought. Because I was like, I didn't 841 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 3: think he put it out there. 842 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,800 Speaker 1: So it's just one of those things where you like, 843 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: like I said before, it's like comparing apples and oranges. 844 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 2: We got some stuff in the mail. We have an 845 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 2: Amazon wish list. People send us things. It's the holiday season. 846 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 3: You know, thank you everybody this sent us stuff, right, 847 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,240 Speaker 3: thank you for the people that sent us stuff. 848 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 2: And we like to make sure, you know, we open 849 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 2: it on the air and we're always adding stuff to 850 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 2: the wish list. You know, I'll put it in the 851 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 2: show notes or whatever if you want to add. If 852 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,919 Speaker 2: you want to get us something, no need, don't. Don't 853 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 2: feel like you're obligated to. But we do appreciate. 854 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 3: Someone got me some basketball shorts. Okay, it just says 855 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 3: a gift for you. 856 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 2: It doesn't say who sent it, by the way, but 857 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 2: that Hornets basketball shorts. You know, the Hornets are my 858 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 2: favorite team and it's the black joints. 859 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 3: I love these. 860 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,800 Speaker 1: Thank you whoever sent that, because we can't go to 861 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 1: the games and get it from the store when they 862 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 1: having sales. 863 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 2: We also saying like I don't know if it's the 864 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 2: same person, but same thing. Where there was no note 865 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 2: for this. 866 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 3: We got a beer cozy for the Hornets cozy for 867 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 3: my beers that I'll be drinking. 868 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,919 Speaker 2: Okay, so next time you see me with a black 869 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 2: it's beautiful beer, just know it's gonna be sitting up 870 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 2: in this Hornets cozy helping me get lit. 871 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 3: Okay. 872 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for our beer cozy. That was for 873 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 1: me specific Like I said, our beer cozy because you 874 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:53,320 Speaker 1: ain't gonna stop me. 875 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 3: Uh, we got Okay, that's how I cam wants to 876 00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:58,839 Speaker 3: play it cool. 877 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 2: We also got for both of us renewed skin Scrubber, 878 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:08,839 Speaker 2: Professional quality Ultrasonic Scrubber Xfolier Skin opens pores. 879 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 3: Deep clean and smooth. 880 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 2: Skin Air removes black heads from by pure Okay, Hey, 881 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,720 Speaker 2: Karen and Rod, you kept me laughing, crying, and thinking 882 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 2: a bit more deeply through this. 883 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 3: Damn Dimmick. That's a good one. 884 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 2: Damned dinnick dimmick. Uh, here's a little something to make 885 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 2: you smile. It's perfect because you picked it out. 886 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 3: Lol. We love, we love from Brooklyn from Saquina. Thank you, Saquina, 887 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,760 Speaker 3: Thank you. I can't wait to use this all the time, 888 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 3: use it all up since we all just it's all 889 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 3: Willy Nillia and free fall up in here. Now, apparently 890 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 3: you can you. I'm not gonna stop you from using 891 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 3: but you probably won't. M h okay, that's what you 892 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 3: said about the I cream, Leslie me, you could use 893 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 3: this in my bathrooms. You're more than happy to come 894 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,280 Speaker 3: in there and use it. Why is it in your bathroom? 895 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 3: It's for everybody? Isn't that interesting? Chat room? Isn't it interesting? 896 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 3: How things like that happen? 897 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 2: Leslie sent us this. Uh, first of all, it's a 898 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 2: card inside train. Merry Christmas to my first loves and 899 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 2: podcasts Roy and Karen. He he, Please enjoy one of 900 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 2: my cross stitch pieces of our favorite Queen Bee. Apologies 901 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 2: if she looks funny, I blame the pattern. Thanks for 902 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:31,359 Speaker 2: getting me through another year. Hugs and kisses, Leslie. Now 903 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 2: this one's interesting because she sent it framed, but we 904 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 2: don't have a frame anymore because it broke in the 905 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 2: within the mailing process. 906 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 3: Yes, so we gotta buy a new frame for it. 907 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 3: But thank you, thank you. It's adorable. You know you 908 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 3: can never have too much Beyonce around your house, is 909 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 3: what I say. But yeah, it'll make a great addition 910 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 3: with my lovely skin cleaning MM seasons Greetings. 911 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 2: This one's from our girl, Tanya w Rod and Karen 912 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,280 Speaker 2: Warmer's wish is a holiday for a happy holiday season. 913 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 2: Nothing w'shing you a wonderful new year and all the best, Tanya. 914 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 2: Thank you, Tanya. She's Taya w forty two, a social 915 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 2: meats on Twitter. And then finally we got one more 916 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 2: card me. 917 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 3: Open this up. Hopefully there's no Rby's gift cards in 918 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 3: this or anything we throw the trash. Oh, it's for 919 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,359 Speaker 3: my girl, coco qt. 920 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,359 Speaker 2: It says stay safe and mask up love, landry, holiday love, 921 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 2: holiday love as always fine as the wine. 922 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 3: Okay, ain't she fine? Though? 923 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,240 Speaker 2: Listen, she'd be sneaking into my You know, my Instagram 924 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 2: is mostly just butts and models, but I have my 925 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 2: friends on that too, and occasionally, like my friend, the 926 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 2: algorithm would be like your friend was looking good enough 927 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 2: to be a model, and I'll be like a heart 928 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,840 Speaker 2: emoji you deserve congratulate you made it. Over all the 929 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:07,720 Speaker 2: thirst traps with your own thirst. I love to see it. Okay, 930 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 2: all right, that's it for today. Thank y'all for listening. 931 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 2: We appreciate y'all. We'll talk to you tomorrow. And yeah, man, 932 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 2: Like I said, we happy holidays, happy New Year, and 933 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,359 Speaker 2: yeah we look forward to whatever twenty twenty one has 934 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,959 Speaker 2: to bring us and hope that it's better than twenty 935 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,280 Speaker 2: twenty was for a lot of people. 936 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,320 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, all right until then, I love you