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Speaker 2: You you know the game has shift?
Speaker 1: Did you know?
Speaker 3: When I tell you, uh, it started on the East coast?
Speaker 3: Did it went to the West coast?
Speaker 1: I believe? Did? It went to the.
Speaker 2: South, and then at some point it went across the pond.
Speaker 2: That's what they say, right of course, the goddamn pond
Speaker 2: and London is one of the hottest things happening right now.
Speaker 3: But one of the things that I appreciate about is
Speaker 3: this guy made a series. He made a series with
Speaker 3: all people who look like me. He made it on
Speaker 3: paper I imagine reading this on paper, like black sci fi superheroes,
Speaker 3: it must have sounded great. But I watched this series,
Speaker 3: and I'm telling you, this is one of the best
Speaker 3: series ever. I look at it like it's the Wire
Speaker 3: meets the Black Panther.
Speaker 2: With a little bit of Hawk, and I called it
Speaker 2: the Black Vengees, you know what I mean, not Adventures the.
Speaker 1: Black Avengers.
Speaker 3: And when I tell you, I was so happy watching
Speaker 3: this ship. Oh my god, in case you don't know
Speaker 3: what we told your mother one and only motherfucker. No, no,
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not exaggerating. I really really watching it.
Speaker 3: I really was like, how can you? Because I read
Speaker 3: what it was about right and then obviously you know,
Speaker 3: you know times my boy and he's like, you got
Speaker 3: to check this out. So I'm like, I'm like okay,
Speaker 3: and then I'm like, all right, cool, how can we
Speaker 3: make this make sense? And then when I watched it,
Speaker 3: I was like, this is so dope, because see, I
Speaker 3: thought that these people already knew.
Speaker 1: About their Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that they're finding out with me as
Speaker 2: I'm watching it.
Speaker 1: So how did you come up with this idea? You
Speaker 1: know what it is?
Speaker 2: I just I like the Journey in it, like threw
Speaker 2: out watching The Batman's the Supermans and all of that,
Speaker 2: and I always enjoyed it. But the narrative of Parison
Speaker 2: gets powers, then get spandex in the cave, it didn't
Speaker 2: make no sense because I'm not doing that. You're not
Speaker 2: doing that, and we've been sold that for a long time.
Speaker 2: You've got plant, you get a long span dex suit,
Speaker 2: and then you save the world. I'm like, bro, if
Speaker 2: I get money, now, if I get powers, I need
Speaker 2: to get some money. You know, I need money. I
Speaker 2: need to fix my situation. I need to make relationships.
Speaker 2: I need to make sure my family is straight. Why
Speaker 2: is there not a show that's like that with powers?
Speaker 2: And that's where it just began, and just wanting to
Speaker 2: see that. So then when the opportunity arose, I was
Speaker 2: just like, yeah, this is this is what I want
Speaker 2: to do, you know, whenever it's came through.
Speaker 3: Right, Because but and I heard you say you said
Speaker 3: it was for Top Boy, that this wouldn't have been
Speaker 3: a success because that boy came first.
Speaker 2: Correct. I don't think would have been as accessible to
Speaker 2: you guys. I don't think you would have like to
Speaker 2: the way the language and the slang. I think because
Speaker 2: you've watched with them years, you're a bit used to
Speaker 2: us now, even though our.
Speaker 1: Rappers are crossing over now. It's like, I think that
Speaker 1: that helped you hate study over here.
Speaker 2: So now when you know there's references, is it like
Speaker 2: top Bay, is it like this? Is it like the
Speaker 2: So I think it helps man, But yeah, because because
Speaker 2: you know what, it was crazy because it was times
Speaker 2: that I had to rewind because I didn't understand some
Speaker 2: of the dialect.
Speaker 1: But then I thought about.
Speaker 2: It, I was like, that's probably exactly what people were.
Speaker 1: Doing with the Wire.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like the Wire was a straight Baltimore in the US.
Speaker 1: I used to wonder, what's due the whole dude. Well,
Speaker 1: I learned that language from the Wire, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I want the super sized.
Speaker 2: I'm not even watering it that you So yeah, I apologetics.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you because was that was that?
Speaker 3: Was that something that came across because.
Speaker 2: Spare time, Netflix will be like, perhaps they're not going
Speaker 2: to understand what they're saying. This is not even just
Speaker 2: in the you in the States. They're saying people in
Speaker 2: the UK will understanding. South London had his own language,
Speaker 2: right you know, and we speak a certain says that
Speaker 2: Britain on the South, Yeah, Brixtains past South as well
Speaker 2: in genuinely like the real urban, gritty parts of all London.
Speaker 1: We have our own slang.
Speaker 2: So when certain netflix is ex are watching it, they're
Speaker 2: not understanding what it means, Like what does this mean?
Speaker 2: What does that mean? I was like, well, you're going
Speaker 2: to find out. But I'm not warring it done. This
Speaker 2: is going to be straight raw South London show how
Speaker 2: we speak and people just have to figure out the language, man,
Speaker 2: you know what, you know.
Speaker 3: It was one of the those things was me coming
Speaker 3: to London. For as many times I came to London,
Speaker 3: I always go to Nando's gonna and I'm looking and
Speaker 3: I'm sitting there with my wife and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, it's going to be authentic. If Nando's say this
Speaker 1: can't down. I was like, that's funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, we said have to be a part of it.
Speaker 2: It's just it's just the experience. That's the London experience.
Speaker 3: But it was something you said on The Brothers Club
Speaker 3: that I wanted to.
Speaker 1: Few. You said that London slang is like New York slang.
Speaker 1: But I think I think, I said, did I say
Speaker 1: it was like Canadian slang? Said, and you said, and
Speaker 1: I said, London, New York.
Speaker 3: Here's here's the part that you forgot to mix out.
Speaker 1: I think that the yard man slang is a part
Speaker 1: of the London slang. Yeah, I said. And people were
Speaker 1: checking me on that. People hear me.
Speaker 2: Saying, that's why the Canadians sound like the Brits, because
Speaker 2: all of the Jamaicans that went over with the candid
Speaker 2: Dog and the slang boy inherited there the same way
Speaker 2: we inherited it over here in London.
Speaker 1: I said, So, yeah, so that might be true. Bro,
Speaker 1: that's that makes sense. Yeah, because because because you remember.
Speaker 3: And my day, I remember hearing about the shower posse
Speaker 3: being deported from New York.
Speaker 1: And that's where they went. They went to Canada and London.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Everybody didn't want to go
Speaker 1: back to the yard. It was like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: but you're from Nigeria, bigger. You used to steal credit
Speaker 1: cards and ship like that, right.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's a very hostel.
Speaker 1: For those that don't know.
Speaker 3: Uh, this is a very deep part of I'm about
Speaker 3: to say movie, and didn't up to say documentary, but this.
Speaker 1: Is a series. It's a very deep.
Speaker 3: Part of the series is he attacked. He attacked a
Speaker 3: very serious issue in our community. And what I didn't
Speaker 3: know there's two There's two things in my life that
Speaker 3: I always wish I asked more of. When pun used
Speaker 3: to go to sleep and when pride he used to
Speaker 3: get sick. I always wanted I never asked him like, like,
Speaker 3: what are you going through? Like I guess I was
Speaker 3: too young, So I just was like trying to ignore it.
Speaker 3: And then when obviously that's when I heard single cell.
Speaker 2: I heard you say that you first found out from
Speaker 2: sickle cell hit him up. Yet that's the first time
Speaker 2: I ever heard that.
Speaker 3: So so what a lot of people don't know is
Speaker 3: single cell is a universal disease, but it's runs rapid
Speaker 3: in the black community.
Speaker 1: And I heard you say something.
Speaker 3: That was really really really really really deep. You said,
Speaker 3: there's supposed to be other people with sickle cell.
Speaker 1: You just never met them. I haven't met them. So
Speaker 1: so what I did.
Speaker 2: Was I had the group google everyone that all famous
Speaker 2: people that who got sickle cell.
Speaker 1: You guys got the notes. Don't read it in Dominican,
Speaker 1: now read it in English. It's going. Yeah, has read.
Speaker 4: Nobody believes you read in Troubles even reading it.
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on? Who Ticky Barbara from The Football Player?
Speaker 1: Okay? Also blacks take also black? Yeah, according to Google.
Speaker 2: This is this Dominican in Colombian Google. Okay, so I
Speaker 2: don't know, Okay, Okay, Ryan Clark that he's black, said
Speaker 2: Beanie Man, Meanie Man, big beating.
Speaker 1: Who King tight? Who the gypsy thing prepared? I think
Speaker 1: I think you would.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think you're gonna stop the listening.
Speaker 1: That's looking list that one. I think this is Columbian.
Speaker 1: What else?
Speaker 2: What else?
Speaker 3: Corlins to the Basketball Player? Okay, Kiki Shephard okay. George
Speaker 3: Floyd okay, okay, wow. And that's how the list stops.
Speaker 3: So so another thing that I heard that the movie
Speaker 3: was inspired by George floydau how up in a Row
Speaker 3: London was at that time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, explained that it was a massive deal of mine life.
Speaker 2: I know everyone I know a lot of people from
Speaker 2: the States always feel like the black pain there is
Speaker 2: not it's not inherited, but we feel it the same
Speaker 2: way that you got feeling. So when Jersey Flood got murdered,
Speaker 2: it was it was just no destroyed. That brought the
Speaker 2: Camels back. Everyone felt everyone was done and everyone was
Speaker 2: going to Central London protesting and doing what they was
Speaker 2: doing to raise awareness, not the same We've had enough,
Speaker 2: do something and even though it wasn't a problem happening
Speaker 2: on our streets in London, we felt that man that ricochet.
Speaker 2: So I'm thinking, do I got cent you with my
Speaker 2: sign and do what I'm doing? And I thought that
Speaker 2: was dope one doing. I was like, can I do
Speaker 2: something different? Can I do something that makes us feel
Speaker 2: like we can't just get killed and thrown into the
Speaker 2: trash and no one cares? So I said, what if
Speaker 2: we need to do something to make us super? And
Speaker 2: that's when I really started working on the show. But
Speaker 2: I didn't know that TV takes one hundred years at
Speaker 2: them time, so I think it would be like a movie.
Speaker 2: I'll start in January, but that by December it took years.
Speaker 2: But I didn't know that at the time, so I
Speaker 2: really worse and thinking it could be ready and it
Speaker 2: could come out at the end of the year and
Speaker 2: this would be like a dedication to it, you know,
Speaker 2: So but yeah, it was. It was just a dark
Speaker 2: time in London. Man, like it was just too much
Speaker 2: because the viature was so graphic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, that was just like, ain't.
Speaker 2: No one gonna do nothing. And I'll tell you one thing,
Speaker 2: I'll say in London. Yeah, if that was in London,
Speaker 2: people that jumped in, I'm not saying they didn't get
Speaker 2: got gun. The friends that got guns there in it.
Speaker 2: In London, there's no guns, like when the police don't
Speaker 2: have guns like that. So if they're trying to choke
Speaker 2: out one of the brothers, the mandom are jumping in
Speaker 2: on that, that's not that can't just flat. So for us,
Speaker 2: we're watching that like just let four man choking all
Speaker 2: that because we're we're going to get we jumping and
Speaker 2: you might sit in a cell phone beer. You know,
Speaker 2: you can say but you know it's not a big deal,
Speaker 2: but I get the fear of you jump in there.
Speaker 1: You might get shot. So it was just like, but
Speaker 1: we're watching this like why has no one doing nothing?
Speaker 2: Why is no one helping him? So it was just
Speaker 2: a big uproar in the UK. Man and I just
Speaker 2: wanted to play my part.
Speaker 3: And that despite this, because I believe that we just
Speaker 3: said George Floyd has sickle cell too.
Speaker 1: I don't even know. That's clear you didn't know. I
Speaker 1: just hope they go correct that list. I'm taking you
Speaker 1: google this.
Speaker 2: So Wikipedia though, on King to the Emperor, they say
Speaker 2: it started from malaria, and ye off the king.
Speaker 1: They talk about King to shoot it from Brooklyn. Maybe
Speaker 1: we don't know.
Speaker 2: So so.
Speaker 3: I think I asked you this and uh a little parts,
Speaker 3: but I want to ask you in this entirety. You know,
Speaker 3: you get, you get, you get blessed with this opportunity.
Speaker 3: People say ahead, we're gonna let you do what you want.
Speaker 3: What makes you say, yo, you know what, let me
Speaker 3: take a risk on my own. People like like it
Speaker 3: was like I could literally count some of the white
Speaker 3: people that was in there. In a good way, it
Speaker 3: was the bad lady.
Speaker 1: I think you know what.
Speaker 2: The trailer came out here and in the comments was
Speaker 2: just so much racism.
Speaker 1: It's crazy racive. Oh so the white people are villains? Oh,
Speaker 1: I guess the same for me? Then?
Speaker 2: Is this in some mystical world where London's black? I
Speaker 2: was like, yo, if we if we uprolled like this
Speaker 2: every time a show came out where we was in
Speaker 2: one row we were, we would I won't be able
Speaker 2: to be here because I've got to be on the
Speaker 2: YouTube every second because there's no shows every single night
Speaker 2: shows predominantly white casts, especially in the UK, so it's
Speaker 2: like why the one or We've got like five shows
Speaker 2: now that was all black casts. I couldn't believe the
Speaker 2: racism because I didn't intentionally put white people in there
Speaker 2: is villains. It was just a predominantly black cass So
Speaker 2: it's kind of the roles that were left over kind
Speaker 2: of thing like who's there? Because this whole show was
Speaker 2: to put black actors in a position where they don't
Speaker 2: have to fly to the States to do roles. I
Speaker 2: want to give them a show where they can get
Speaker 2: paid well, big platform, you know, grow their brand with
Speaker 2: a show like this. So we were out looking for
Speaker 2: black actors to you know, give them a step off.
Speaker 2: So it wasn't anti white, it was just pro black,
Speaker 2: that's right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So now I'm gonna say this now, one of my
Speaker 3: favorite characters is taseruat me, let me tell you why
Speaker 3: he's one of my favorite characters because he's human meaning
Speaker 3: not not not to say that everyone else is not human.
Speaker 1: But what I'm trying to say is you.
Speaker 3: A figure you get like powers and then you're like,
Speaker 3: all right, cool, let me go help the homeless. Like
Speaker 3: that's not how the suck certain people are. He was,
Speaker 3: he was a wicked man before he got the powers.
Speaker 3: He stayed the wicked man.
Speaker 2: Got the powers, he started doing some ill ship. So
Speaker 2: but what made you say that balance? Because you know,
Speaker 2: my man, Michael, Michael is he's a good guy, like
Speaker 2: he's he's he's he's the leader.
Speaker 1: That's not the leader, that's the leader leader.
Speaker 3: But to me, Taser was so much relatable to like
Speaker 3: street people, like who would get these powers and be
Speaker 3: like yo, I'm a Robert Bank, Like fuck helping the homeless,
Speaker 3: helping the wheelchair guy.
Speaker 1: These guys want to So what made you say that
Speaker 1: keep that balance of character.
Speaker 2: Because if I'm telling the story of normal people with
Speaker 2: powers and normal people with powers setting South London, there's
Speaker 2: no version of South London where a guy like that
Speaker 2: doesn't exist, you know, like I'm from South London.
Speaker 1: South London is it's kind of like they.
Speaker 2: Know the poverty part of London, you know, So a
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of London, not all of London
Speaker 2: that you saw five different characters, but that part is
Speaker 2: very prominent, and I just wanted the character that if
Speaker 2: you're in a game war and then you get powers,
Speaker 2: oh shit, you really?
Speaker 1: That was his thing was, this is a game changer
Speaker 1: with this, we.
Speaker 2: Can take them, we can take them, we can take them,
Speaker 2: And that's his mind frame. Remember he's only a teenager.
Speaker 2: He hasn't even thought about rubbing the bank. He's still
Speaker 2: about money, power and respect, right, So I just wanted
Speaker 2: someone realistic. As he gets older, he's probably going to
Speaker 2: say one, I just rob a bank. But at the moment,
Speaker 2: he's just trying to put his team on. He's trying
Speaker 2: to get his team to the next level. Okay, now
Speaker 2: this is something I was waiting to ask you. So
Speaker 2: But first of all, first before I asked you straight
Speaker 2: up that.
Speaker 3: I'm forty six years old, I don't condone violence anymore,
Speaker 3: but every now and then.
Speaker 1: Used to violence. That's what I said. But it's a scene.
Speaker 1: It's a scene where.
Speaker 2: Taser is on the bike and they got their bad
Speaker 2: danas on, and I was like, I want to be
Speaker 2: with them, like so cool, Like I'm.
Speaker 3: Just telling you, Like, like I said, I started this
Speaker 3: off with, I don't want to I don't want to
Speaker 3: condone violence. But I want to be there like they were.
Speaker 3: They went through the hoods, people start and they're on
Speaker 3: the bikes, but they look so smooth. They looked so
Speaker 3: I was like, I would like to help out, be
Speaker 3: a part of the violence. It looks just so cool,
Speaker 3: I guess cause they wanted revenge.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: So is it like that in London? Yeah, pretty much
Speaker 1: the whole back things.
Speaker 2: It was away for the two gangs, for the gangs
Speaker 2: to move because there's no license plates. Remember London, we're
Speaker 2: CCTV everywhere. There ain't no last places and pedal backs.
Speaker 2: So if you're beefing an area where it's literally a
Speaker 2: pedal back away, you get there, you get cool. There's
Speaker 2: no unless you get cold there you're not you know,
Speaker 2: they can't catch you. There ain't no lescense plate.
Speaker 1: There ain't no because I didn't even know what.
Speaker 2: You can typing on YouTube and you can look at
Speaker 2: p YG that there was a gag of bricks and
Speaker 2: and there's a gang of peck and they used to
Speaker 2: be back in the day and you see a real
Speaker 2: shot of the gang. I can't know if it was
Speaker 2: bricktain guys, pecking gangs and Brickston, but you see a
Speaker 2: similar shot whatevers, but much more people in the backs.
Speaker 1: And you do that because scooters pedal back. No, because
Speaker 1: they did it. They did it again. No, there's no game.
Speaker 4: Cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's wow. So now not only that this
Speaker 3: is this is an important question to me personally. It's
Speaker 3: very distinctive that you see one side is red and
Speaker 3: then you see the.
Speaker 1: Other side blue.
Speaker 2: I didn't hear them calling each other bloods the crips,
Speaker 2: but I also remember me going to San Diego and
Speaker 2: seeing the same ship like for Mexican gang and it's
Speaker 2: different for them.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's northern South. So is this something like that,
Speaker 2: like where these gangs use the same colors, but it's
Speaker 2: not for bloods and crips. But gangs do have colors.
Speaker 2: Some gangs do you rep colors?
Speaker 1: You know? For what I can remember, As I said,
Speaker 1: the game changes the time.
Speaker 2: But for example, I'm I don't know, hypes are familiar
Speaker 2: with gigs for example gigs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what youven come through?
Speaker 2: He would like his area used to wrap the black bandanners,
Speaker 2: but that was just their color they would rep. And
Speaker 2: that rapper that's in the show, Digger d his team
Speaker 2: red blue, okay, and other gangs red.
Speaker 1: But it was just growing up, would your your gang.
Speaker 2: Would have a color, like your band would be a
Speaker 2: color to refuse us gang like you come out.
Speaker 1: It's not as deep as the Cruption blast. It wasn't that.
Speaker 2: It wasn't even I don't even think it wasn't intentionally
Speaker 2: inspired by that.
Speaker 1: But it is gangs rep colors and they didn't learn
Speaker 1: the Caribbean too.
Speaker 4: And I've been to like, hey, yeah, red and blue
Speaker 4: and they're not bloods of cribs, but they different ports
Speaker 4: have different flags.
Speaker 2: But you know when I originally started doing it, yeah,
Speaker 2: I've done a movie before called Blue Story.
Speaker 1: Come on, got that in my notes? Yeah, what is Yeah?
Speaker 2: The two gangsters guys and I remember the execs like
Speaker 2: we just couldn't tell he was here because we just
Speaker 2: couldn't tell he was here. They just didn't get it
Speaker 2: he was who. They just didn't know who the bodies were.
Speaker 2: They just saw a group of black guys rough night
Speaker 2: each other. So then we had to put colors. So
Speaker 2: the just oh, the blue.
Speaker 1: Guys, the guys, the bad guys, and the red guys.
Speaker 2: So we start doing like that. But the fact is
Speaker 2: it is the young younger low for why can we
Speaker 2: cool things? Changing the time in the streets And I said,
Speaker 2: I'm not kick no more. But the college is very prominent,
Speaker 2: so I'm bouncing around a little bit. I was watching
Speaker 2: on YouTube and there was this guy on the street.
Speaker 2: He was interviewing this other guy on the street and
Speaker 2: he goes, do you wear your watch in London?
Speaker 1: And he said no. He said why not?
Speaker 2: You have insurance and the guy said, I don't have
Speaker 2: insurance from my.
Speaker 1: Arm London's London is not the place. Minute you hear
Speaker 1: this now?
Speaker 2: He literally said that people come up and they'll chop
Speaker 2: you with a machete with a machete for your watch.
Speaker 2: Is it that bad people will do what they need
Speaker 2: you to get them watches off yours? I don't give
Speaker 2: it that. It's not a joke. I think a lot
Speaker 2: of people lose lose a lot for their watches these days.
Speaker 2: So if you're not going somewhere where I feel like
Speaker 2: you can't protectaste, that's not worth the grief. Like I've
Speaker 2: seen videos where you just go to the restaurant with
Speaker 2: your woman with your watch and they will wait for
Speaker 2: you to come out, follow you home and then rip
Speaker 2: off your arm for the way that is down with
Speaker 2: it too right or something I've seen that I've seen
Speaker 2: the same thing that you've seen. I don't know if
Speaker 2: that's common knowledge, but that's that's I heard how they knew.
Speaker 2: So what the way it does? Away who formally from
Speaker 2: from the street call the people say someone just coming
Speaker 2: with this ap you know where the blue dress black
Speaker 2: plays are, and then they wait for you to come out,
Speaker 2: they follow you home and then they get you at
Speaker 2: your doorsteps.
Speaker 3: It's crazy, though, watch Watch Crime in the UK is
Speaker 3: this is the number one and in London they said
Speaker 3: this number.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense. I can very much believe that.
Speaker 1: And did you know what fun it was? Number two?
Speaker 1: I know we go off the subject, which is fucked up?
Speaker 2: The's number two that I recently just read what's that
Speaker 2: cans France can I've seen that recently though, but.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that people they said that.
Speaker 2: But they're not violent though. They come up to you
Speaker 2: with pepper spray.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you go like this. I'm still trying to
Speaker 1: keep so let me start clip from Kanas now.
Speaker 2: So I'm bouncing around, but let's let's go back to
Speaker 2: the series.
Speaker 1: So another.
Speaker 3: Fun character was Sabrina Big the dean Okay she called man.
Speaker 1: She yeah, she didn't kill him. She has the powers.
Speaker 1: I was starting to think.
Speaker 2: I said, you know how many other woman in the
Speaker 2: hood w took full advantage.
Speaker 1: From we played it in l A.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for the LA's premier every one in the crowd
Speaker 2: together game. There was.
Speaker 1: Every time we played until the women in the crowd
Speaker 1: go crazy. You go crazy.
Speaker 2: They love it, you know, they want to have to
Speaker 2: kill it. And she's a good girl and she didn't.
Speaker 2: She didn't know she had the powers at that plant, right.
Speaker 1: I love I love the fact and I'm not blowing
Speaker 1: it up.
Speaker 3: But I want everybody to go see this because if
Speaker 3: you haven't seen it, you have to see it.
Speaker 1: And if you saw it, watch it again.
Speaker 3: Because I had to watch it again to catch certain things,
Speaker 3: and then I had to watch again.
Speaker 1: And then the.
Speaker 3: Only messed up part is I was running around, Hey, bros.
Speaker 1: Soon as I everybody does that.
Speaker 2: Everybody goes into that in once they started watching Everybody's
Speaker 2: just everything everyone.
Speaker 3: But but all right, So, like I said, everyone I
Speaker 3: should watch it. But one of my favorite things, and
Speaker 3: I touched on it earlier, is how they start to
Speaker 3: get their superpowers. Because remember, for those that didn't see it,
Speaker 3: they're all trying to use it. They all find out
Speaker 3: that they got it, and then they try to use
Speaker 3: it and then they can't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when they really needed it doesn't really work. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and they haven't mastered it. Yeah, take some minute. It
Speaker 2: kind of reminded me of black people in our situation.
Speaker 2: Sometimes we react better when we stressed.
Speaker 1: I feel like when we went our backs against the wall,
Speaker 1: that's when we show out. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: So that's what I started to think. I started to
Speaker 3: look at that. I was like, is that's what's happening.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of subliminal messages inside there, you know,
Speaker 2: like when I do write, I always ride with I
Speaker 2: might not turn up when I need to on time,
Speaker 2: voice when you need me, I'm going to be there.
Speaker 2: And that's how the powers kind of came up come
Speaker 2: about sometimes where even though it comes through times of
Speaker 2: stress when they really need it, they should be But
Speaker 2: the didn't get no always because you've seen it to
Speaker 2: the end, right, I've seen you already know it's nothing,
Speaker 2: but there's so many something messages inside there that it's
Speaker 2: there to uplift the community and to really speak on
Speaker 2: the human beings, especially the black community. Yeah, and you
Speaker 2: know what, I would love to.
Speaker 3: The wardrobe just like everyone everyone, everybody I looked. Everybody
Speaker 3: I saw looked exactly like how I thought that they
Speaker 3: would look.
Speaker 1: Even down to the to the guys that you know, the.
Speaker 2: Snatchers, Like the ship was baggy about you know hoodie guys,
Speaker 2: Like it was baggy.
Speaker 1: It was like it was like fly Like I was like,
Speaker 1: exactly how it is? Is gonna be happy with that
Speaker 1: com from so we got oh yeah, yeah, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, like it looked like and like you
Speaker 1: would you would think, like, what's it called Scott high
Speaker 1: high five? Scott? Which one on? What is the genre?
Speaker 3: So you were think far like you were speaking on earlier,
Speaker 3: you would think sci fi to put on something like
Speaker 3: some digital ship or something like that, and it's like
Speaker 3: it looks like.
Speaker 2: Right now to try to ground it, That's what the
Speaker 2: whole point of the show was, Like we wanted everything
Speaker 2: to be like if London.
Speaker 1: Got powers now, this way like relatable.
Speaker 2: So we wanted it to be like whatever you're wearing,
Speaker 2: this is what you would wear, this is what you
Speaker 2: So we were trying to do everything as Honestly, I
Speaker 2: feel like that's the realist version of London is like
Speaker 2: minus the powers obviously, but that is when I look
Speaker 2: at that, the parties and music, the energy on the street.
Speaker 1: I just look at it and I feel like that
Speaker 1: is just London.
Speaker 2: So I wanted to keep that as much as possible
Speaker 2: and put these powers on top and see if it
Speaker 2: will still work.
Speaker 1: So when when did When did London shift right?
Speaker 3: Because at one point I remember us coming to the US,
Speaker 3: coming from the US, excuse me, and we would go
Speaker 3: to London. It would be cool. No one will worry
Speaker 3: about nothing. There's no like I wouldn't say this was
Speaker 3: no crime.
Speaker 2: But I don't know, man, I say, you remember, yeah,
Speaker 2: but you came to London years ago. You can't go
Speaker 2: into the hoods. But he came to an event. It's
Speaker 2: called the Urban Music seven. Yeah, okay, it was so
Speaker 2: many It might be twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: It was so long ago. Man.
Speaker 2: Now from that general generation will remember this because you came.
Speaker 2: You don't talk and Bear Man came to see you.
Speaker 2: But everyone from everywhere, no Southeast and West Aid hoods.
Speaker 1: You came for one of the days.
Speaker 2: But it turned into like a battle rayl blood ball
Speaker 2: in that place because every single gang.
Speaker 1: Basically it was a big but it takes a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you don't remember, you don't see that. We wouldn't watch.
Speaker 1: That's probably what it is. I felt protected. I felt
Speaker 1: like we bro.
Speaker 2: You was like wasager was in London? Bro We was
Speaker 2: like what we all went down there to see that
Speaker 2: and we showed you love minute you left, because it
Speaker 2: was London has always been violent.
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree with you. It could have been.
Speaker 2: I believe it was violid back then, but it was
Speaker 2: so sput structured, it wasn't.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's the was it drill music? I
Speaker 1: mean that's part of it.
Speaker 3: Do you think it's the introduction of drill music? I
Speaker 3: think it's social media, social med.
Speaker 2: The cameras them days when you're there, Like say, if
Speaker 2: I had a camera phone there, I would be showing
Speaker 2: you footage of me meeting. But I didn't have that
Speaker 2: then wet have phones. You're just seeing it now. But
Speaker 2: London's always been and to be honest, London's a bit worse.
Speaker 2: Is a bit it used to be a bit worse
Speaker 2: than today because there's all my gun laws now where
Speaker 2: if you get found with a gun, you get all
Speaker 2: mac five years.
Speaker 1: They won't lie out. Back in the day.
Speaker 2: Back in the day, you could get do a year
Speaker 2: for a gun, so a lot of man were taking
Speaker 2: that risk. It's not now it's all mac five years.
Speaker 2: So people are less willing to carry a gun and
Speaker 2: they're ready to pick up a knife. But when you
Speaker 2: was coming those times, just me money was still remember
Speaker 2: but you didn't see top Bay on this community in
Speaker 2: im not saying he wouldn't know. That's why I say
Speaker 2: top By, top By your help, because you're not knowing that,
Speaker 2: you're not thinking everyone's thinking. You know where just queens.
Speaker 2: It was always London, has always been London. I went
Speaker 2: to London one time. I'm uh big up. We called
Speaker 2: him the Mounting dym right and you I don't know
Speaker 2: if he wants me to blow up his name. But
Speaker 2: so I'm in I'm in London, I'm performing and Tim Westwood.
Speaker 1: Is not a part of the show. But but he
Speaker 1: came to the show and guys.
Speaker 3: Came and gave me a bag of weed like this
Speaker 3: big and everyone came up to me, Hey, you're drug
Speaker 3: dealing man like no man like I had so much
Speaker 3: weed never seen nobody from like New York have so
Speaker 3: much weed because you.
Speaker 1: Know you're going home the next couple of days. I
Speaker 1: smoked all that ship. Yes, yes, I believe it.
Speaker 3: So bouncing around a little bit the food culture in
Speaker 3: London and you got a mix of you know, African,
Speaker 3: African soul, you got, you got even a little bit
Speaker 3: of Latino out there. You got a little bit of everything.
Speaker 3: Like what is your favorite London dish? Basically London dish, Yes,
Speaker 3: London dish.
Speaker 2: I'm all preferred African dishes because I'm African. But if
Speaker 2: i was to take out my own food, but I've
Speaker 2: been eating African fud since I was a kid, I'll
Speaker 2: probably get the Caribbean food. So if I'm not eating
Speaker 2: your love rice or goosey soup and grand rass, I
Speaker 2: would probably get rass and peas and coxtail.
Speaker 1: So that was the mom.
Speaker 2: Just know that's what I'm That's what I'm eating. But
Speaker 2: London we got, We've got a mix of everything though, Okay,
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. We are very much like you.
Speaker 2: I always I just come back from New York and
Speaker 2: I'm always just like it's so similar, you know, everything
Speaker 2: everything so yeah, I think London. My favorite fruit is
Speaker 2: always after. I'm in the Caribbean. But you've got everything wrong.
Speaker 2: What's what's the wonder is I take the bread and
Speaker 2: you're dipping in the rice and go like that.
Speaker 1: Bread and rest is Ethiopian. That's a Guardian dish.
Speaker 2: But it's not bread. It's not bread. It's like it's
Speaker 2: hard to call it. Man, It's like it's like grounded rass.
Speaker 2: It's like a grounded rass. It's like almost it's kind
Speaker 2: of it's like, so you threw me off with bread
Speaker 2: spreading to rest.
Speaker 1: But it's like it's just African. It's African culture. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like where everybody eat it, But Michael Black, isn't
Speaker 1: it black?
Speaker 2: You know? You like that?
Speaker 1: That's you know, it's not meant to be. It's not
Speaker 1: meant to be. It's meant to be.
Speaker 3: You meant to be a Okay, let's talk about shower story,
Speaker 3: shadow story, shadow story.
Speaker 1: That was your frost. That's what cut me through. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so that there was.
Speaker 2: That was five years into my journey on YouTube, trying
Speaker 2: to make something called myself. So I was uploading from
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen loads of different lave musically now issues like that,
Speaker 2: And every time I uploaded one work with a story,
Speaker 2: I got more attention, you know, And any time I
Speaker 2: utloaded just regular music, it got less attention, which is cool.
Speaker 2: Doing it for year and years and years, and it's
Speaker 2: kind of getting to the print where it's costing me
Speaker 2: more than it's bringing me, you know. So I remember
Speaker 2: getting to the prey now for five years. When I
Speaker 2: say five years, I'm very much like not doing done
Speaker 2: a little bit in January and a little bit in December.
Speaker 2: I'm uploading like ten times a year. So I've got
Speaker 2: signed for Valentine's Day, i got signed for the summer.
Speaker 2: I got signed for Uber and it's costing. You know,
Speaker 2: you gotta pay for it. You gotta shoot it, you
Speaker 2: gotta upload on the channel. You gotta pay upload fee.
Speaker 2: I don't remember thinking, you know what, you gotta pay
Speaker 2: a upload fee for YouTube. If you were to go
Speaker 2: like okay, say like the World Style Hip Hop when
Speaker 2: I was trying to get signed there, they tell you
Speaker 2: how much money.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So going to one of.
Speaker 3: The play and you want to get on the biggest plant,
Speaker 3: get what you said?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: So I remember it's coming now, it's like fifty year
Speaker 2: into the journey, and it's like you're getting people that
Speaker 2: know you were like, bro, is it time to hang
Speaker 2: it up?
Speaker 1: Bro? Like you've tried. Man. I was like, I know
Speaker 1: my I know my thing's different. I know my things
Speaker 1: like what things Younique like, yeah, what brought it for years?
Speaker 2: But the man that don't even to tell it to
Speaker 2: the video she no more. It's like, bro, we've were
Speaker 2: coming to videos for years. You've gotta go to work.
Speaker 2: I'm just like I remember saying to myself, I've got
Speaker 2: this shadow of story figure and I've had it on
Speaker 2: YouTube from no on Spotify from twenty seven. No one
Speaker 2: knew because I didn't get a lot of dreams. But
Speaker 2: people that listen to it, yeah, the audio or the audio.
Speaker 2: Everyone that listened to it. People that didn't really talk
Speaker 2: to me really well, we always meant to me. So
Speaker 2: I heard that, thinking on Spotify, You're it's really good.
Speaker 2: Maybe just on my last hurrah, I'm just going to
Speaker 2: do a visual to this, okay as my final go
Speaker 2: bad because I love the storytelling.
Speaker 1: Storytelling. I'm just seeing my last one.
Speaker 2: Then go figure out something to a job man, and
Speaker 2: then I put it out and it blew up like
Speaker 2: it was crazy, like I don't know, we've got a
Speaker 2: Part one got a million views.
Speaker 1: In like ten days, and then before then I never
Speaker 1: had a million views.
Speaker 2: Part two got like a million views in four days,
Speaker 2: and Part three got a million views and five hours
Speaker 2: and it was viral. Then I got calls from Jay
Speaker 2: Z and James Samuel and everyone's calling me, and everyone
Speaker 2: did time time time time.
Speaker 1: Through that and from from shower store, so and so. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So basically once that came through the door, showers to
Speaker 2: everybody came. And what worked, what what worked in my
Speaker 2: favor was there was a massive show in Britain at
Speaker 2: the time called The Bodyguard, the BBC's biggest show for
Speaker 2: ages and it was there finale and you went against them,
Speaker 2: but I didn't know because I didn't want to win
Speaker 2: against him a boy.
Speaker 1: So we're trending about the biggest show in the UK.
Speaker 1: I just had all the networks start to contact me.
Speaker 2: So TV producting companies are hitting me up, film production
Speaker 2: companies are hitting me up. Everyone's hitting me up like
Speaker 2: we want to work, we want to do this, we
Speaker 2: want to do that, we want to do this. And
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, I was in the game without
Speaker 2: trying to get into the game. The game kind of
Speaker 2: came to me and I got through. Yeah, so by
Speaker 2: the congratulations, thank you you said, James said, you were earlier,
Speaker 2: my man, big up Still's brother.
Speaker 1: Do you remember the first time me and James Brolay
Speaker 1: over there. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So We're on the heighth of a shower stay doing
Speaker 2: all these radio interviews, getting back and forth, and I've
Speaker 2: got an email from a guy called Jamal Edwards. Man
Speaker 2: he passed away not too long ago, but I really lovely.
Speaker 2: Guy started trying to called SBTV, which is where a
Speaker 2: lot of us started. So his emailed me said, James
Speaker 2: Samuel and Jay Z wanted trying to reach you.
Speaker 1: I didn't know who James Samuel was, but I saw James,
Speaker 1: this is live, bro, this is I even pay attention
Speaker 1: to it. I just said the quickest email back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you give them my number, pay attention to it.
Speaker 2: There was a big billboard of shower story in my
Speaker 2: in my neighborhood, like where I used to hang out.
Speaker 2: So we went down there just to take a picture
Speaker 2: next to it. Until I've got her FaceTime called from
Speaker 2: James Samuel, Bro. This put his energy was crazy energy,
Speaker 2: but his energy said that what's good?
Speaker 1: Black? He is such He's like, what's good, black guy?
Speaker 1: I've seen your work and we want to work with you.
Speaker 1: Me jay Z Tata, I'm just like, bro, who are you?
Speaker 2: Bro? Yo?
Speaker 1: I appreciate the comp my life. What's good?
Speaker 2: Because I'm not going to sell you on who I am,
Speaker 2: but just know you are a black guy is telling
Speaker 2: me maybe I don't have the FA before this time.
Speaker 2: So he's just guying off and I'm like, okay, I'm
Speaker 2: just taking a confidence. Okay, bro, appreciate that. He goes, oh,
Speaker 2: can I call you next week? I said, yeah, bro,
Speaker 2: you got my mind, man, you can put whatever.
Speaker 1: You are man.
Speaker 2: He goes, you know, and me and jay Z are
Speaker 2: saying I said, Bro, you don't have to keep from
Speaker 2: saying I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: You cool men. You know one to me, jay Z
Speaker 1: is a guy that lives over there.
Speaker 2: You live in London, Bronn work sounds like I'm going
Speaker 2: to call you one week after the phone I signed them, Bro, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I have a good time.
Speaker 2: Speak to you soon. I don't tell my baby thinking
Speaker 2: about that, and I don't know, man.
Speaker 1: It was just weird. The energy was crazy, but then
Speaker 1: I remember like.
Speaker 2: Ten days later, I'm putting my daughter to bed now
Speaker 2: and he's called and I'm just like, bro, this is
Speaker 2: that crazy brother with the black guy.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I want to say to my
Speaker 1: little girl cho.
Speaker 2: I said, yo, Bro, I'm just putting my little one
Speaker 2: to bed, and it goes wait, wait, black guy speak
Speaker 2: to my friend first, like bro, yo.
Speaker 1: But you know it's funny though, James is like one
Speaker 1: of my closest friends.
Speaker 2: Now lie and obviously through James, he's introduced me to
Speaker 2: time James and tied like my proper lot. They're my
Speaker 2: actual friend. You know, if they were here now, they'll
Speaker 2: be sitting deciding me. But it was crazy at the time.
Speaker 1: He was just this mad guy was back.
Speaker 2: And remember this is before Harderday, full before Booker clapping,
Speaker 2: So I've.
Speaker 1: Never heard of it. He didn't, doesn't. He doesn't come
Speaker 1: on the phone and say I'm He's just.
Speaker 2: A guy with a mad energy that he's basically telling
Speaker 2: you congratulations you've met me. Now.
Speaker 1: It's well, that's an energy, bro.
Speaker 2: Like James's energy is so so positive like he and honestly,
Speaker 2: since he's come into my life, it has only been winning, win,
Speaker 2: because we move as a collective.
Speaker 1: So even with this, he's like, Yo, we need to
Speaker 1: go on drink cool to get to that's what That's
Speaker 1: how we move as a collective now. But that the
Speaker 1: energy case. When I'm.
Speaker 2: Listen, listen, I'm just becoming a member of So, I'm
Speaker 2: just becoming a member of soul.
Speaker 3: There's nothing but white people around, so real. I walked
Speaker 3: to the bathroom. This is so house and the one
Speaker 3: with boys downstairs in La.
Speaker 1: So I'm walking through.
Speaker 2: It's a very quiet Sunday evening. He's walking by me.
Speaker 2: He stops and he goes, I'm like cool. The white
Speaker 2: people faces said why did he just call him the
Speaker 2: black guy? And I'm like hold up And he's like.
Speaker 3: Hey man, and I'm looking and then he starts dropping themes.
Speaker 3: Three he says ja name and whatever. So I'm like,
Speaker 3: I kind of just text BIGS. I was like, Yo,
Speaker 3: this is weird guy standing in front of me with braids,
Speaker 3: and he.
Speaker 1: Was like he's getting me Like, hope his best friend
Speaker 1: be nice to him. I said anything. He says he is.
Speaker 2: He doesn't drop names because he knows these people are
Speaker 2: confidence to him.
Speaker 1: As well, and he them. So he's that guy.
Speaker 2: You know, he was just telling me because he was like, Yo,
Speaker 2: I just told Jay, I'm putting you in the movie,
Speaker 2: and I'm looking and I'm like, this ship is too
Speaker 2: good to be true.
Speaker 1: Just text megs and was like, Gage is that guy? Man?
Speaker 2: So let me ask you because we heard this famous
Speaker 2: story about Netflix coming to see you and you're running
Speaker 2: up the bill.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I feel good one yeah you remember
Speaker 1: what you ate? Oh man?
Speaker 2: It was it was some of my dumplings. It was
Speaker 2: some prone dumplings, money bags. If anyone's gone to another cub,
Speaker 2: you know I'm talking about you had a trouble problem
Speaker 2: when I was ordering everything come up to that as well.
Speaker 2: You I was making them because I ain't got shame
Speaker 2: for things like that. If you're gonna take me to dinner,
Speaker 2: you're gonna me to dinner. Bro, I'm going to eat today,
Speaker 2: like I'm saying. So, yeah, remember asked for four. Just
Speaker 2: want everybody to know for four.
Speaker 1: So I remember there was.
Speaker 2: So I tried to do a deal with Netflix in
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. This is before my movie came out. After
Speaker 2: Sharer story. They didn't like the show I had, you know,
Speaker 2: it just wasn't for them. And they had some sort
Speaker 2: of deal where it's like you can still pitch our
Speaker 2: days to us and we see what we like. I'm
Speaker 2: not really trying to be a pitch pony, but let's
Speaker 2: I'm sure we're reconnect, you know, like if it's meant
Speaker 2: to be. So my movie that was coming out, Blue Story,
Speaker 2: the promo for in the UK was crazy. You couldn't
Speaker 2: go nowhere and not see it. Buses, underground billboards. Ratio
Speaker 2: is still independent with this Blue Story. Yeah, yeah, still dependent.
Speaker 2: So they've reached out, like, you know, can we go
Speaker 2: to dinner? And I'm like, okay, they've seen all the
Speaker 2: press because the press was everywhere and we don't get
Speaker 2: a lot of all blackcast movies. They come around like
Speaker 2: once every six seven years in the UK, so when
Speaker 2: it comes, it's a big deal.
Speaker 3: But let me ask you, and I want you to
Speaker 3: get right back to that, but how did you get
Speaker 3: that funding for them to see that the billboards and
Speaker 3: things like that.
Speaker 1: I was independent, but it wasn't after Shower Story.
Speaker 2: Okay, when I told you everyone came, I was like, yo,
Speaker 2: I got this thing I made earlier two years before
Speaker 2: Shower Story. I wrote this movie. I wrote Blue story,
Speaker 2: and it just sat on my laptop for years. I'm
Speaker 2: hoping one day I'll make enough money. I'm going to
Speaker 2: save my money and I'm going to make it.
Speaker 1: So he just sat there.
Speaker 2: So when everybody came that we're going to do this,
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, if you want to do this movie,
Speaker 2: I've got because I didn't write that for nothing, that
Speaker 2: we can make that. And that's so that's how that
Speaker 2: got made. So it wasn't independent, it was I was independent,
Speaker 2: but the movie was made by power Man. It was
Speaker 2: an independent movie, but Powermount paid for the distribution, so
Speaker 2: they were pushing everywhere.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so they basically saw the hype.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, do you want to go to dinner?
Speaker 1: And I was like, cool, let's go to dinner. Man,
Speaker 1: where do you want to go? And they made it
Speaker 1: clear you're our treat. So I was like, yo, because
Speaker 1: pay for that. So we went.
Speaker 2: I went another because and you know, when they expect
Speaker 2: you to come in and just be modest, I want
Speaker 2: you want to know just some more.
Speaker 1: I was that, so I'm going to get that cocktail.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get that, get this. I want to
Speaker 1: get that. And I just ran up bare Field, but
Speaker 1: their Netflix, they go like that.
Speaker 2: So I'm just yumming off the food, right, jamming it off.
Speaker 1: But I think I was yamming so much they.
Speaker 2: Had to sneak the words up, wait, have you got
Speaker 2: anything that you feel like would be good for us?
Speaker 2: And I didn't know it was a pitch me in.
Speaker 2: I thought it was just not get to know each other.
Speaker 2: But it wasn't a general they they was they wanted
Speaker 2: to know what I had. Top Boy came out yet
Speaker 2: Top Boy was coming out in two in a month,
Speaker 2: Okay was coming out in the month. Okay, So so yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm just yumming this food, and they said, what's this idea?
Speaker 1: Idea? I gave him my idea. They didn't like it,
Speaker 1: of course, anything else Okay gave some other idea.
Speaker 2: I can't remember that one was. They didn't like that,
Speaker 2: and I think they started to feel like this money
Speaker 2: when food was wasted that right now, because there wasn't
Speaker 2: getting nothing back but any thick us. I said, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be able to eat in peace until
Speaker 2: I do sign so food. Still digesting the food in
Speaker 2: my mouth now, and I'm just like, look, I've got
Speaker 2: this idea. So about people from where I'm from, and
Speaker 2: they got powers, you know, but they're not doing superhero
Speaker 2: or stuff. They're doing normal stuff like what they would
Speaker 2: be doing the day before they had powers. Just normal
Speaker 2: people doing normal things. And I'm rambling on because they're
Speaker 2: not saying nothing, whereas before they was interrupted saying what else?
Speaker 1: What happened?
Speaker 2: But I'm looking at them and it was like change
Speaker 2: because they saw that that was the one and that's
Speaker 2: that's kind of testament to them. They're very sharp and
Speaker 2: what they know would will connect. So that was that
Speaker 2: because I thought the art there I was given one
Speaker 2: good but they didn't. But so yeah, from that, and
Speaker 2: it was like, can we talk about this now? I said, Yo,
Speaker 2: my movie drops in that three weeks. I just I
Speaker 2: just want to see what that does. First, let me
Speaker 2: see what that does. And then Blue Story Yeah, and
Speaker 2: then hollowed at me afterwards, and they waited, they waited
Speaker 2: for the movie to come out, and then two three
Speaker 2: weeks afterwards, they came back like, yo, we've circled the
Speaker 2: block now, like what's good?
Speaker 1: It's all God damn.
Speaker 3: Our shows about giving people their flowers or not, and
Speaker 3: we want to give you your flowers.
Speaker 1: Face to face man, you know what I listen? Do
Speaker 1: you know why? I was like, I was like, can
Speaker 1: I go? Can I go and drink drink?
Speaker 2: I said I would in the Fact show. It's always
Speaker 2: uplifting the games.
Speaker 1: That's right. It's not sneak sabotage, just like this. This
Speaker 1: is a this is a guy in my cabinet in
Speaker 1: my yard like y'all. So another thing we went through.
Speaker 1: We went through your music. But your music is so
Speaker 1: fire right.
Speaker 3: But I could also hear the ice cube and you
Speaker 3: meaning writing scripts like like that.
Speaker 2: That's why cube transitions so dope, because he was always
Speaker 2: you know, like there was a good day and all
Speaker 2: of that. So when he went on to do Friday,
Speaker 2: I wasn't shocked because you can see a story. I
Speaker 2: see a natural storyteller is a natural storyteller, Like you
Speaker 2: can do over it beat. He can do it in
Speaker 2: the script, and it's similar with me. I can do
Speaker 2: over beat. I can do it in the script.
Speaker 1: When it's in you. You you it's just a story.
Speaker 2: So you probably never had a chance to really tell
Speaker 2: his stories, probably because you've only got a certain aount
Speaker 2: of time on the song.
Speaker 1: That's why when he got into his writing Bang, it
Speaker 1: was just crazy.
Speaker 2: He's giving us the classical, all classics, and I just
Speaker 2: feel like natural storytellers, you just want to tell a
Speaker 2: bigger story. Then you want to tell a bigger story
Speaker 2: like I'm surprised Cubean't got a TV show yet, It's
Speaker 2: probably coming. I'm a big Q fan and I was
Speaker 2: all the storytellers of that generation like, so yeah, I love.
Speaker 3: That you do claim the b sides of people. Records,
Speaker 3: like the records that no one does a video.
Speaker 2: But for me, those were the ones that obviously the
Speaker 2: label was putting out the songs that's going to sell.
Speaker 1: But as a fan, you honest, I visualized what that
Speaker 1: character looks like. Bro, come and give me the loot.
Speaker 2: That brog BIGGI and a little biggie guy on these
Speaker 2: cameles trying to I always imagine, I'm literally I could
Speaker 2: redo that.
Speaker 1: Video now and have gave you power about the gun. Bro.
Speaker 2: No, but my favorite now story turns on is Undying Love.
Speaker 2: You know, when he goes the whole story I am
Speaker 2: and he ends up killing himself and HISLF and at
Speaker 2: the end, Bro, that story goes so deep when he
Speaker 2: figures out she's cheating, so all of these stories.
Speaker 4: I'm just like, bro, give me one video, give some
Speaker 4: a vacation. I always say it would be an ill movie.
Speaker 2: But they never do it, and I get it because
Speaker 2: you're trying to sell records, right, But for me, I
Speaker 2: was a slap bro. I'm giving everybody there must be
Speaker 2: someone out here like me who wants to see the
Speaker 2: visuals to these ill stories. So that was literally my lane.
Speaker 2: It wasn't trying to infiltrate film and TV. It was
Speaker 2: going to be I'm going to tell people, show people
Speaker 2: in my neighborhood all these stories because I didn't know
Speaker 2: nobody out of my neighborhood, so I was knowing where
Speaker 2: I was from.
Speaker 1: But then it just started growing. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: God comes down and asks you, I want you to
Speaker 1: do one video with one artist. Two Packs fat.
Speaker 2: I didn't even have to ask, Okay, is it a
Speaker 2: record that's already made or is it a record that
Speaker 2: you want him to go in and make you some
Speaker 2: close Caskets that he's done with the Outlaws.
Speaker 1: Wowe, only real?
Speaker 2: Two Packs are gonna know that by that that tune
Speaker 2: is deep, you know, close Casket. He talks about two
Speaker 2: friends who love the same girl and they end up
Speaker 2: in a massive shoot and end up killing each other,
Speaker 2: and he doesn't he's done it with the Outlaws as well.
Speaker 1: But it's a big tune. Man, that's a big tune.
Speaker 1: I'll do it to that son, Okay.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm announcing this right, Shiro story,
Speaker 2: Hyro Sharro story.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that.
Speaker 2: You know you done that already, you know, let's go
Speaker 2: again there, I suppose what do you want me to
Speaker 2: say about it? Though, in the sense of where did
Speaker 2: it come from? What?
Speaker 1: Because how do you come up with these stories? Because yeah,
Speaker 1: there was two.
Speaker 2: One thing I noticed is everything is the name story.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yes, that's okay. And that was mainly because
Speaker 2: of I don't know, it's growing up. It was always
Speaker 2: I just wanted it to be clear that this is
Speaker 2: the story. I kind of always wanted to have what
Speaker 2: was on the tint, So it was that this is
Speaker 2: a story song. Okay, But yeah, I just remember I
Speaker 2: was I was actually in the studio recording us a
Speaker 2: typical song. And then link up TV, which is a
Speaker 2: platform in the UK, you know where people are low videos,
Speaker 2: pretty big platform being up the sheet. They've called me
Speaker 2: up I think he's one of his partners. Joey called
Speaker 2: me up and said, Yo, we're putting a confirmation album
Speaker 2: together and we want a song from you.
Speaker 1: I'm like, right, they want a song for me?
Speaker 2: Go yeah, we want a story song. They would make
Speaker 2: it clear that's what they like from you. We want
Speaker 2: to story something new and like what type of story song,
Speaker 2: I don't know. As long as it's a story song
Speaker 2: from you, where to be happy with it. I remember, okay,
Speaker 2: what story is something to do? I knew because I've
Speaker 2: done loads of story songs up to now. And there
Speaker 2: was two guys in my area, Rumo's guying around that
Speaker 2: two best friends would and when they found out that
Speaker 2: his to his best friend was actually the.
Speaker 1: Father, I remember, like, yo, it's a lot from when
Speaker 1: he found out. Everyone I don't know, so what so
Speaker 1: did he know that it was good? Nobody?
Speaker 2: No one had any questions to see when I've got questions,
Speaker 2: I just made up my answers in the story. So
Speaker 2: you know, I'm gonna tell a story about to you guys,
Speaker 2: similar situation, and I'm gonna put my outcomes. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: feel in my own blast story telling. And it just
Speaker 2: went like that Okay, so that's how it came about.
Speaker 2: But honestly, that thing there that changed everything at the
Speaker 2: time where I was about to chuck it all in,
Speaker 2: so fine, going for a shadow story, make stories for that?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, uh huh, you got it so quick time.
Speaker 1: It was not responsoribley stress you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Do we do this? You gotta tell yeah? Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: So we drinking lisers are drinking game. Okay, We're gonna
Speaker 1: give you two choices. You pick one.
Speaker 4: Nobody rinks if you say both or neither of them.
Speaker 4: So the PC question of the political I mean the
Speaker 4: political correct answer.
Speaker 1: Would be we all drink. What are we drinking? Though?
Speaker 1: Your choice drink, your choice of drinking. It's not going crazy,
Speaker 1: you do because there's a long list.
Speaker 4: And then any stories you got with any of the
Speaker 4: people that we mentioned, please by all means.
Speaker 1: You know, I'll go good story. Okay, Yeah, you're gonna
Speaker 1: go ready, no mixed out with that way? Please crazy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, rip TUPAC or d MX oh Tupac. But that's
Speaker 2: not that's not easy choice. Okay, but we won't tell
Speaker 2: us why or any stories with either of them. You know.
Speaker 1: I love DMX for like a long time in the
Speaker 1: sense of he was my one ills in school.
Speaker 2: He was my favorite rapper. I used to you know,
Speaker 2: rap it. I used to I used to call talent
Speaker 2: shows and performing songs, and I just loved this whole music.
Speaker 2: I loved this whole style. I loved and he you know,
Speaker 2: they had the whole Damien out just stories. I was
Speaker 2: a massive DMX fan.
Speaker 1: I loved it.
Speaker 2: When the rough Riders were brought in. It was just
Speaker 2: he was after Tupac. He was a person that kind
Speaker 2: of took me so I was. It was just a
Speaker 2: shame I never got a chance to ever meet him
Speaker 2: to any.
Speaker 1: Of his concerts.
Speaker 2: So but so you go on, but I have to
Speaker 2: go with Pa because pack was the first journey where
Speaker 2: I believed in him, not just the music. You know,
Speaker 2: like he was he was political, he sto I feel
Speaker 2: like he stood for something, you know, like Brenda's Got
Speaker 2: a Baby was political at the same time, you know,
Speaker 2: things like that.
Speaker 1: He would talk about things trying to change the world,
Speaker 1: even changes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you listened to songs that changes like we
Speaker 2: ain't ready to see a black president.
Speaker 1: And at the time he probably wasn't, you know, but
Speaker 1: he was talking. I was.
Speaker 2: I was a two pack fan of the person as
Speaker 2: well as the artists, and a lot of people I
Speaker 2: don't feel like a lot of artists do that anymore
Speaker 2: where I care about them outside of their music.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry because you just made me think of this.
Speaker 1: What is brexit?
Speaker 2: You know? I didn't want to sit him and give
Speaker 2: them the wrong answer because I don't know, because I'm
Speaker 2: an easy way to explain to Layman's I think I'm
Speaker 2: not even trying to get embarrassed because to this day
Speaker 2: we left it and I don't see what happened. Yes,
Speaker 2: we left the EU, so we left the Europe. Remember
Speaker 2: you got your own pound, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, we
Speaker 2: always had our own power. We never was a part
Speaker 2: of your But I think it was coming to where
Speaker 2: we had to join and whoever the powers that be
Speaker 2: decided know what. Yeah, it's bad. UK is best separately
Speaker 2: and I don't know if it was or it wasn't.
Speaker 2: You have to ask someone more into politics. But we
Speaker 2: left the EU. There was a point now where the
Speaker 2: bridge possible. I'm going to Spain. I'm going to Everything
Speaker 2: was fine now it's a bit more of it's a
Speaker 2: separate rule. It was no orders, no one Union was like,
Speaker 2: there's certain trade deals that was happening with the UK
Speaker 2: and England that we came out, but that's all above
Speaker 2: my pay grade. But I don't know to this day
Speaker 2: what the benefit was A very random question you're giving me,
Speaker 2: and I've explained it, and that's as far.
Speaker 1: Because it feels like it's gone back and forth.
Speaker 2: Someone said it's looking like we might go back. I
Speaker 2: actually don't know, but I'm not big on the politics,
Speaker 2: so I'm not going to sit here.
Speaker 1: That's why the random shot.
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Speaker 2: n w A when the movie came out. I knew
Speaker 2: of them before, but my older brother was big on Wu.
Speaker 1: Tang so I was.
Speaker 2: I was a massive method man fan. I love what
Speaker 2: Rizzard was doing. I love ghost like all that I
Speaker 2: got is you. I Got You by ghost Face is
Speaker 2: like my favorite song for like forever. So Whu Tank
Speaker 2: to me was just like it was just it's just yeah, they.
Speaker 1: Were everything, Okay, Gigs or Skeptic. I like them both.
Speaker 1: I gotta go with the Holy Gigs man. Oh you
Speaker 1: went with somebody No no no.
Speaker 2: I love them both though, but Gigs is my guy
Speaker 2: in it and Gigs is Gigs to me started that
Speaker 2: gangster year in the UK, and even that's the one
Speaker 2: like they they.
Speaker 1: Got it cracking. Not to say they weren't people doing it.
Speaker 2: Before, but they made a shift where the UK gangster
Speaker 2: rap scene became prominent.
Speaker 1: So you're saying Gigs is the godfather of drill music
Speaker 1: not drill.
Speaker 2: No, No, I feel like I've said it before, but
Speaker 2: you see what NW a down for for rap, gangster rap.
Speaker 1: That's what S and one the Gigs done for UK rap.
Speaker 4: Yeah what does S as placing them? Yeah big s Yes,
Speaker 4: old school year. They were the first, the first guys
Speaker 4: I heard from the.
Speaker 1: UK starting a Rockefellers. Yeah, yeah, they were.
Speaker 2: They were, but I think you know what it was
Speaker 2: yet not taking nothing away from them, but they were
Speaker 2: still an American twanging there. So even though they wrapped
Speaker 2: in our accent, there was an American twanging there that
Speaker 2: was like we could relate, but not as much as
Speaker 2: when we started fully rapping in our accent fully and
Speaker 2: talking about our areas, which is indicative.
Speaker 1: What do you mean when you say twain, Because they were,
Speaker 1: they were emulating, they were still that's indicative of the
Speaker 1: era because that's what was happening. It was sounding like
Speaker 1: New York.
Speaker 3: That doesn't It's kind of like you know when when
Speaker 3: French Montana kind of signed to the South, you lost
Speaker 3: me that, you know, remember he signed to.
Speaker 2: Mom So I don't I don't know if he changed
Speaker 2: his style.
Speaker 1: No, but what I'm what I'm thinking is from the
Speaker 1: era that they come from.
Speaker 4: New York is the mecca of hip hop, so everyone
Speaker 4: is emulating place where everything's coming from.
Speaker 2: And they were dope. There was nothing to take away
Speaker 2: from them. They were super dope. But for example, when
Speaker 2: the next generation came through, we weren't even trying to
Speaker 2: be nothing like in the US we're coming out talking
Speaker 2: about our high streaks.
Speaker 1: Our people are clothing things that you don't like. What's that?
Speaker 1: What's what's clacking jacks? What you wouldn't It didn't mile
Speaker 1: because it was just for us.
Speaker 2: And that's when things started changing, where you start picking
Speaker 2: out your friends and your son.
Speaker 1: So you know, you don't know my.
Speaker 2: Friend Rad, but I'm gonna I'm rapping in the song
Speaker 2: me and Redo. It's like he's regular. We didn't care
Speaker 2: because it wasn't for you.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 2: If you know me and you know my way around,
Speaker 2: this is what is And I feel like that's what
Speaker 2: the gigs and and s m one era starting, That's
Speaker 2: what they began. And that's why I said A doun't
Speaker 2: as I said, I feel like a lot of people
Speaker 2: have to walk before someone could run. But the big
Speaker 2: changes I'm just talking about the changes where the scene
Speaker 2: really became its own was when people like Gigs and
Speaker 2: that came through mother.
Speaker 1: Random question, why do you call your sneakers trainers?
Speaker 2: Why do you call yours your training? Sneakers came first
Speaker 2: the sneaker. I don't understand the sneakers part trainers. We
Speaker 2: could train in there. Tell me now what sneakers, you're sneaking.
Speaker 1: Up for somebody because term that's.
Speaker 2: Reco Google Google.
Speaker 3: Sneakers mean because that he sucked me up. Okay, the harder,
Speaker 3: the harder day for or the Book of Claric. No, no, Bro,
Speaker 3: I'm offensive.
Speaker 2: You know I'm gonna go the Holiday for Okay, Well,
Speaker 2: I love them both Holiday fool, It's just it. And
Speaker 2: I'm a big I'm a big believer and I'm a
Speaker 2: big on God. I love the one is gone and
Speaker 2: one is like Western. You see when I just see
Speaker 2: the opening scene the Holiday for when everyone starts getting smoked.
Speaker 1: That was taught me, Bro. I was like, yeah, so
Speaker 1: that to me, that's my movie, Like Cowboys was out there.
Speaker 1: That was fine. What what is it? Quiet?
Speaker 2: Okay, well then you go every day cool Central Cy
Speaker 2: or dig D dig a D. I think Central season
Speaker 2: doing amazing things. I'm a big fan of what he's achieved.
Speaker 2: But is my Gama, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 2: I'm very much Diggers in my show. That's my cast man,
Speaker 2: but my cost my kids, So yeah, big, bigger, But
Speaker 2: I love them. They're both great. New Jack City or
Speaker 2: King of New York.
Speaker 1: New Jack City, New Jack City to me, was I
Speaker 1: still you referenced it?
Speaker 2: Like I'm writing the movie right now and I'm using
Speaker 2: New Jack City as a big reference because see way
Speaker 2: Wesley played Nino Brown, it was just a game changer.
Speaker 2: He's coming into the club and he's dancing, but then
Speaker 2: he's killing you. He wasn't you know, the whole gangster
Speaker 2: fingure you have to be cool when you have to
Speaker 2: be Nah, Nino Brown was that guy.
Speaker 1: So yeah, New Jack say for me, Okay, top boys,
Speaker 1: shout us. Twere somewhere like your londonness. That's how you
Speaker 1: do it, Boris somewhere, Yeah like that.
Speaker 6: What did you do?
Speaker 1: He was like this, like like that because I don't
Speaker 1: know to pronounce for damnson Idris.
Speaker 2: That both my guys, But let's go with the original.
Speaker 2: Or he started first and that's gonna be Adris. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but when you know, we'll just tell you something. When
Speaker 2: he got done doing the wire and.
Speaker 1: I heard him talk, I was like, yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I didn't. We didn't even know he was. We didn't.
Speaker 1: Well me, I can't talk for everybody, but a lot
Speaker 1: of people that I know. He didn't know. Idris Elbaw
Speaker 1: was British. When we watched The Wire. We did not
Speaker 1: know that was a Bridge man.
Speaker 2: We did not know so he was from Baltimore and
Speaker 2: he was not my favorite character so that he was British.
Speaker 2: He was like, I don't think that would adompton injuries
Speaker 2: that you would take seriously if you want to respect,
Speaker 2: I'm sying that will probably tell you the same. We
Speaker 2: we look up to Indians as the big homie because
Speaker 2: of where you're done from. But I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 2: It was like he held that accent until why it was.
Speaker 1: Over, and then.
Speaker 4: It's I don't think you even do a lot of
Speaker 4: pressing it. Yeah, yeah, let's be honest. I don't think
Speaker 4: we can do it good going that way. I think
Speaker 4: only the British actors can do it good.
Speaker 2: Him say, it's coming minding changing, Yeah, change.
Speaker 1: I could you not? I could you not eat? You
Speaker 1: go home tonight.
Speaker 3: You're gonna watch this and you're gonna run around. Hey, bro,
Speaker 3: I'm telling you. When I was watching Talk, I heard
Speaker 3: him saying it. I heard him saying and he said,
Speaker 3: he said, it starts as a joke and then you
Speaker 3: start to do it. You start doing it.
Speaker 1: That's the way everything starts.
Speaker 2: That's how it starts, because you're saying it shows a
Speaker 2: lot this keep them coming, that you'll keeping in durt
Speaker 2: and keeping watching. Five to ten years, the access from
Speaker 2: the US will be taking the UK jobs. There's Alreadio
Speaker 2: a movie called Empire Light out now and starts my
Speaker 2: friend Michael warding here there's the girl that plays his girlfriend.
Speaker 2: She sounds as British as me. Come to find out
Speaker 2: she's as American as you, guys. And so it's starting
Speaker 2: to happen. It's starting to happen.
Speaker 1: So do you think it's more it's having it's like
Speaker 1: a lack of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you haven't heard enough of us. You
Speaker 2: still feel you still think we took that we're in
Speaker 2: Downton Abbey. But when you start watching Top Boy and Supercell, yeah,
Speaker 2: you start realizing what you wait a minute, I can.
Speaker 1: Replicate that voice a bit more and you can see
Speaker 1: them saying, so you just haven't seen it, and we've
Speaker 1: been normalized.
Speaker 2: We've been watching you guys, remember listening to your music,
Speaker 2: so we hear your west, watching your TV shows and
Speaker 2: your movies. What we've been hearing is your voice and
Speaker 2: ours are visually in our face. Since we've been born.
Speaker 2: But that's that makes sense. That's what makes this so dope.
Speaker 3: It's like what I was saying in the intro is like,
Speaker 3: you know, hip hop went from you know, East Coast
Speaker 3: to the south listening to order you know, West Coast,
Speaker 3: and then it went across the pond. And this series
Speaker 3: compliments the music that you guys are doing in the
Speaker 3: car miss.
Speaker 1: The whole scene.
Speaker 3: On one hand, it makes everyone say I want to
Speaker 3: go to London, and then another hand, it's like I
Speaker 3: gotta be careful when I get there because you was
Speaker 3: go see shirt Lock Holmes, he man, Man, it's a dude,
Speaker 3: n shirlock. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, so
Speaker 3: it's it's great.
Speaker 1: I come on, let's moves move. But okay, jay Z
Speaker 1: or nasty nods?
Speaker 2: Oh my, okay are we talking now? We took him before.
Speaker 2: We might as well take a shot when you when
Speaker 2: you start answering that, I'll take a short on that
Speaker 2: because that to me, that's that's a tough one. That's
Speaker 2: a tough one. Okay, Okay, Well I'm going my love.
Speaker 2: I've never met nas big fan thatster Fin hopefully one
Speaker 2: down Me and jay Z.
Speaker 1: That's my guy.
Speaker 2: Man, got not love for him. He's nothing more positive.
Speaker 2: Any time I run into Hims.
Speaker 1: Got me in his home. So jay Z jay Z man,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Nah, And he got your back, man,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: We just understanding how they operate and how they move,
Speaker 3: like you know, for me to get a call, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, And like.
Speaker 1: I was just like they got your back, They got
Speaker 1: your back. What I'm trying to say is they got
Speaker 1: to be back.
Speaker 3: And I mean, you know what to see Rockefeller unfold
Speaker 3: and keep continuing.
Speaker 1: I mean rock Nation.
Speaker 3: Excuse me because I was a part of Violet, the management,
Speaker 3: the legendary thing, and then after the volt.
Speaker 1: That disappeared, there was not a compliment that.
Speaker 3: And you know, an artist such as yourself, you know,
Speaker 3: sometimes you don't want to say I'm the illest guy
Speaker 3: in the room.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you want somebody else to say that for you.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It makes you look even ill, and especially when that
Speaker 3: guy is supposed to be the laugh yeah, for lack
Speaker 3: of a better term, the top dog than the top boy,
Speaker 3: but the top dog. That's just it makes that room
Speaker 3: easier for you to navigate it. You know what, I'm saying,
Speaker 3: so I congratulate you. I graduated and you have a
Speaker 3: relationships because that's that's that's a very good relationship.
Speaker 2: That Yeah, that my people. Man, don't let my people. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: you want to do the next one? Wow, you can't
Speaker 2: do it. I can't pronounce their last name.
Speaker 1: Jason Steam or Daniel or Daniel Craig, Daniel.
Speaker 7: Stay Fan, Jason, Jada Kiss or Big Daddy k Jady Kiss.
Speaker 7: J was my guy growing up Rockefeller rough Riders. You
Speaker 7: can take your drinkers, let me. He was the next
Speaker 7: one where we are Tom Hardy or Daniel day Lewis.
Speaker 2: Daniel d Lewis, snow or Power Snowfall because the damnse
Speaker 2: not not even Damson Damson. Yeah, you can't separate them.
Speaker 2: Dampson falls snow Damson body did. Snowfall was actually very
Speaker 2: very well written. It was.
Speaker 1: It was very well written and Damson.
Speaker 2: There was a bad season they had the first season
Speaker 2: it grew into what it was that that was, but
Speaker 2: used the last two seasons you started watching it knowing
Speaker 2: that you know, Damnson, You're just watching it like I
Speaker 2: just need to know what's going to happen to him?
Speaker 1: Why so hope. Hopefully you don't do me like my
Speaker 1: friend John Singleton did me one time. I said one time.
Speaker 1: And he was a big inspiration to my as well.
Speaker 1: He lived on the block of me before and so
Speaker 1: you know we had him on drinking Champs. Man.
Speaker 2: I used to just with them all the time, knowing
Speaker 2: that he wouldn't give me this role. And I would
Speaker 2: be like, yo, they'll put me on Snowfall. He would
Speaker 2: look at me and say, you will never be a
Speaker 2: snow Fall. Your New York accident is too.
Speaker 1: You could never play a West Coast guy. And I'm like, damn, bro,
Speaker 1: But that's he could have made someone from the New
Speaker 1: York coming. That's what I'm about to say, you know,
Speaker 1: and super cil to you know. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: if we bring it to.
Speaker 2: Moves, you know what I'm saying that that's what happens
Speaker 2: more common than you up with thinks, you know, like
Speaker 2: ties in London.
Speaker 1: You know he was okay, he sounds so you.
Speaker 3: Know like I'm because you know, remember the Wire they
Speaker 3: had Nobody and then second season they had Fred Row,
Speaker 3: they had such and such. Let's let's think of rappers
Speaker 3: you think will fit in second season? I say, Buster rhymes.
Speaker 3: How and then if we go and if we take
Speaker 3: it to the States, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: No, no, buster him play don Okay, yeah he got
Speaker 1: he got the couldn't play that. I would make him
Speaker 1: a villain, a villain.
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna tell you what else you got down
Speaker 3: pack that was like so unique to the to like
Speaker 3: the island people that get together.
Speaker 1: You know what you was doing and the sound effects.
Speaker 1: That's that is. So that's that is. Yeah, that's culture mine.
Speaker 1: That's when you hear mane. He's just respectful. He is
Speaker 1: not a nice person.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the problem. That's how we're talking. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the next one. I take it Boys in the Hood
Speaker 1: or Ministers Society? Oh man right, get my shirt.
Speaker 2: When I was younger, it was menace because I just
Speaker 2: was under you saw that first? No, I saw them,
Speaker 2: I saw I think I saw Boys the Hood first.
Speaker 2: I mean that's the first one. When I was younger,
Speaker 2: I wasn't here for politics and lessons. I just want
Speaker 2: to see the smoke.
Speaker 1: So maybe it's a society. To me was the indess movie.
Speaker 1: But then when I got older and I watched.
Speaker 2: Boys in the Hood, I'm there with Lauren spishburn. I'm
Speaker 2: hearing his knowledge and I'm respecting what he's doing, and
Speaker 2: I respect the layers in the movie. So a younger
Speaker 2: man is thing older. So if I have to choose now,
Speaker 2: so if you.
Speaker 1: I was gonna have to drink drink.
Speaker 3: But yeah, and I'm bouncing around a little bit. Why
Speaker 3: we didn't have a doctor umar character and.
Speaker 1: Supersell when he said to character, what would you wanted
Speaker 1: to be doing?
Speaker 2: Like I wanted him to come down and say, brothers,
Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta control your powers.
Speaker 1: Off the seasons. We might be able to animate for that,
Speaker 1: but you never know. He's becoming a consultant.
Speaker 3: By the way, and I'm not saying this, he's here,
Speaker 3: by the way, there's no way to make the show
Speaker 3: even better. It's just it's just this show is actually,
Speaker 3: like I actually looked at it sometimes, like how I
Speaker 3: listen to a person's album before they come here and
Speaker 3: I want to critique them. I want to say, you
Speaker 3: know this, this, this, this, and that the show is
Speaker 3: and it's crazy because it starts all slow.
Speaker 1: Everyone says that you know, how.
Speaker 2: About mind slow furness from this as long as you're
Speaker 2: giving me information, But you see at other black community.
Speaker 1: They're not here for that. This thing slow much this man,
Speaker 1: I'm just not bro give it. An I'm reading these
Speaker 1: comments on Twitter. They don't see me. I'm just like yo,
Speaker 1: I was like, bro get give it. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: it is. That's my way of storytelling.
Speaker 2: I think it's worse if an episode starts off episode
Speaker 2: two by it goes along and then you you said
Speaker 2: the tone, and then you got to keep it exactly.
Speaker 2: So we started it's a staircase, So you're wanna watch
Speaker 2: when I think I was now talking that took You're
Speaker 2: gonna get the second Okay, how do you get to
Speaker 2: see You're just thinking, oh, what did I just go through?
Speaker 1: You feel like you went through a journey. So you know,
Speaker 1: it's the crazy thing.
Speaker 3: I bet you those people that was complaining this, people
Speaker 3: have never been in London because you were showing the area.
Speaker 1: I think that's what it was. It was establishment, like we.
Speaker 2: Were establishing the characters that you have to do in
Speaker 2: any pilot episode of a show. But we wanted to
Speaker 2: show London in this how it is. You know, that
Speaker 2: was a real reflection South, and the South hasn't been
Speaker 2: on screen like that, so we have to take our
Speaker 2: time with him.
Speaker 1: But I thought that was so dope. You with the
Speaker 1: next one l A in Miami la directing or Ryman directing.
Speaker 1: I knew he's gonna pick that Forell or Kanye Kanye
Speaker 1: Podcast radio.
Speaker 2: You know, honest, I don't actually listen to I don't
Speaker 2: watch procasts unless I know I don't know. I don't
Speaker 2: like whatever you see when I know who the guest is.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm tuning in. Remember, in my line of work,
Speaker 2: I need something coming in the background. This is a
Speaker 2: visual pro cart. You can't get the food entertainment unless
Speaker 2: you're watching it. So it's like, so I can't do
Speaker 2: it because I'm always writing. So I would say radio,
Speaker 2: I can have it in the background and I can
Speaker 2: still get to work.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Uh. Michael B. Jordan's or Jonathan Majors, Michael B. Scar
Speaker 2: Face or Ice Cube as Cube slick Rick or Biggie
Speaker 2: Small Biggie Smons Bigger slipric though he put London on, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you put London on differently like crazy.
Speaker 1: He was like the first cemony and he was a storyteller. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was called he might he might your storyteller. Mike
Speaker 1: from a long line. Yeah, he might have, he might
Speaker 1: have been inspired from him. But Biggie as a storyteller.
Speaker 2: To me, as an actual rapper, if rapping was an
Speaker 2: Olympic sport, just on the rapping, I think big is
Speaker 2: the best me personally. Like still to this day, people
Speaker 2: don't know who Biggy was talking about on a story
Speaker 2: to tell he heard all kinds of people, all types
Speaker 2: of but I think that you don't think it was
Speaker 2: just general.
Speaker 1: I think it was just general. But you know what
Speaker 1: I like.
Speaker 2: I like the mystique of the rumor because when I
Speaker 2: saw his mom doing interviews, she was saying that we
Speaker 2: didn't live in a one bes shack, we didn't do this,
Speaker 2: so yeah, maybe well you know she did have cancer.
Speaker 1: No that I'm not the cancer, you know what, big
Speaker 1: what I'm saying because I heard maybe maybe she was.
Speaker 1: She wasn't. I don't know, but if she made that lie, so.
Speaker 3: It was just right, all right, this is no no, no,
Speaker 3: I won't even say that. The last one for this
Speaker 3: then we give it back into the interview. Loyalty or respect.
Speaker 2: Loyalty Okay, Like I feel like if someone's with you
Speaker 2: and they're there for you, it don't even matters that
Speaker 2: person don't respect you, because that person that's loyalty doesn't it.
Speaker 2: It'sould about who the layery comes from and who the
Speaker 2: respect comes from. I don't need the respect from people
Speaker 2: I don't care about. The people I want lawyer are
Speaker 2: the people. Will you know that respect comes up as
Speaker 2: part of the package.
Speaker 1: I respect that take a shot. Take a shot to that.
Speaker 1: I want to take a shot. You think I don't
Speaker 1: need to do that. Now this is me being generic.
Speaker 1: Thank you. You wouldn't take a job just based off
Speaker 1: the money.
Speaker 2: The character, and it can't just leave the money because
Speaker 2: the money is going to come with your doing great.
Speaker 1: I feel that greatness comes with money in it.
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to be great so I know when
Speaker 2: I reach my pinnacles, all the money that I always
Speaker 2: want I will get. But you do one something that's whack,
Speaker 2: that could be your last money, know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: That might be your last you know. So I'm here
Speaker 2: for the long run, and I think people always think
Speaker 2: short term, whereas I want a long, a long career
Speaker 2: making for a long time. So for me to do that,
Speaker 2: every project has to make you want to see more.
Speaker 1: You know, Let's break down some learning slang right now. First,
Speaker 1: my favorite bro you call brom slang to me saying bro, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what it is because you put it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I even say bro, bro brother.
Speaker 1: I don't even say that though, I'm like.
Speaker 2: Talk about it.
Speaker 1: If bro's short for brother, what would brother? Yeah, saying
Speaker 1: do you say brom? I'm thinking I don't say bro?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's so that's what that means. I noticed.
Speaker 2: But I'm going to ask anyway for the audience, why
Speaker 2: what is that?
Speaker 1: What's good man? What's going on? Stand on that? Let's
Speaker 1: set up stand on that's what that's what. That's Jamaica
Speaker 1: lending them took it, lending took it. I mean, wherever
Speaker 1: there's lendon took it, you go to any.
Speaker 3: Carter And then but this, this is this is another
Speaker 3: one that is going to sound Jamaican too.
Speaker 1: You don't know, Come on, but don't know? Did we
Speaker 1: say you don't know? You not knowing? You're not No,
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I don't think you've had one.
Speaker 1: You don't know for the whole seat for so don't
Speaker 1: lie you ain't had that. You not noticed?
Speaker 2: No way, I can't my cost Yeah, and on my
Speaker 2: cost of look young. They won't even saying slang word
Speaker 2: if it does it make sense. So there's no way
Speaker 2: you knows.
Speaker 1: It not here not Yeah, that's that's definitely that's how
Speaker 1: we too. Okay, now what it means, because I'd be
Speaker 1: like hated, like like ship outside today, isn't it like
Speaker 1: that's matter? I didn't know what that's what mean? You
Speaker 1: know it's not today. This is crazy, That's what I means.
Speaker 3: So if I land and I'm going to South London,
Speaker 3: which words that you recommended?
Speaker 2: I know what.
Speaker 1: This bro trying to use words?
Speaker 2: You know you tried to go and say your and
Speaker 2: he said, but you just get cool that where you from,
Speaker 2: from where you're from, speak love.
Speaker 1: When you're just speaking with English, bro, you'll be.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So don't try to don't try to the
Speaker 2: worst things you know, just to you can talk normal
Speaker 2: because you know, you don't know you know how people
Speaker 2: come around with the Jamaican broughts on and they'll be
Speaker 2: trying to be other than they are, Like, don't do that, no,
Speaker 2: just be normal man. London is good man, Okay. So
Speaker 2: who you think runs the majority? Is it Nigerians? Is
Speaker 2: it Jamaicans is it the most black people are in London?
Speaker 2: And I'll say it's definitely a strong mix. It depends
Speaker 2: on the area. Like Pecum used to be a lot
Speaker 2: more Africans, Lucians was a bit more Jamaicans.
Speaker 1: Brixton was I'll say more cat being bricks in it. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4: Is it all still based off of where the colonies
Speaker 4: were like colonialism?
Speaker 1: Well, well, I can only speak to my parents.
Speaker 2: They came many many years ago, thinking you know, London
Speaker 2: the safe place and we went straight to We went
Speaker 2: to a place near Pecking called War Road, Like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: my parents came, so they came down there. Well, it's
Speaker 2: kind of just where you can get a place, bro
Speaker 2: Like my parents would get to the council. If they
Speaker 2: would have told her, listen, we've got a place to
Speaker 2: you and it's in North London, they would have went
Speaker 2: North London. It's kind of just wherever you can get housed,
Speaker 2: you know, because the housing on them days it was,
Speaker 2: you know, it's wherever the council pushing you go. You know,
Speaker 2: council could have put us anywhere and that's where we
Speaker 2: would have rept Is it still so expensive in London?
Speaker 2: My first time in London. I gave the guy a
Speaker 2: thousand dollars for seventy five to change the money in
Speaker 2: the hotel. Hotel exchanging the money, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I gave him a thousand, he gave me four seventy five.
Speaker 1: I was the smartest person in the world. But he
Speaker 1: feel like to go to and gets you a thousand.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, this day, back in the day.
Speaker 2: Two thousand and six two and sent light to come
Speaker 2: to that New York can just come out to this
Speaker 2: party and stuff like that. I would give over fis
Speaker 2: and get two firesand it's something back. So that used
Speaker 2: to be the good. That's why we used to come
Speaker 2: over here because our money was double.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: No, London is the most expensive place ever. I don't
Speaker 2: think it laser as expensive as London when I go
Speaker 2: to London. When I'm in London, I always think I
Speaker 2: might the right place, bro because this place is a
Speaker 2: rip off.
Speaker 1: Is a rippoff. But it's just isn't it.
Speaker 3: With that being said, you know New York real estate
Speaker 3: are being skyrocketed. It costs more to film movies, la
Speaker 3: being the movie capital.
Speaker 2: Is it more.
Speaker 1: Expensive to film in London? I know that they've got
Speaker 1: new taxing centers.
Speaker 2: Now, I think other places have better taxes saying it,
Speaker 2: but London is becoming a massive film Like the biggest
Speaker 2: movies that you're seeing now getting shut in London.
Speaker 1: So I'm assuming there must be some sort.
Speaker 2: Of incentives that's making it work because a lot of
Speaker 2: movies are going to London, like The Stupid When we
Speaker 2: were filming Super Sol, we were trying to get certain
Speaker 2: studio spaces and they said, no, Disney is got booked
Speaker 2: top for this a lot of time, or no they've
Speaker 2: got for this my time. So everything is just taken.
Speaker 2: So it's massive in London now the film.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you about the texting centers to get
Speaker 4: clearity on it, because who benefits who gets that money back?
Speaker 4: Is it the production the like you yourself, like, who
Speaker 4: who gets the money back? When it's the texting centerment, they.
Speaker 2: Production company and the networks and the network will getting back.
Speaker 1: So like so part of like recouping our rear the budget.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so exactly that because so when it goes
Speaker 2: to the budget that always goes into play.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like, Okay, we've got twenty m.
Speaker 2: To shoot, but if we shoot it here in London,
Speaker 2: you might we've got twenty five. If you shoot it
Speaker 2: over there in Atlanta, you've got thirty five. So because
Speaker 2: you know what you're getting back, same thing.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it helps. That's why filmmaking it's a big
Speaker 1: business now.
Speaker 2: A lot of countries are trying to get their taxing
Speaker 2: centerves involved so people can come and film in places
Speaker 2: because it's it's always been big business, but now with
Speaker 2: that Atlanta, it's like the countries arellow, okay, how we
Speaker 2: need to get our version in place now because it
Speaker 2: is making a difference. So someone like me, if I
Speaker 2: want to film somewhere and I'm trying to get the
Speaker 2: most from my budget, I'm looking for the place that
Speaker 2: has got the biggest taxing sentive so I can shoot
Speaker 2: there and get more on the screen.
Speaker 1: And they wanted because it's it's bringing money exact.
Speaker 3: Actually, so the show was like Top Top Boy, the
Speaker 3: Super soll we got to kind of see the woral London, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have say the other versions, well, but
Speaker 2: this is outside of London, London, right, and we're getting
Speaker 2: to see that along with the music.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: But I remember, uh me trying not what faded for
Speaker 2: and at one point I don't know. If you watch character,
Speaker 2: I did it. I was the guy who put out the.
Speaker 3: Raisers and yeah, yeah, I remember at one point because
Speaker 3: I had actually went out for a recorder.
Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: I was thinking, did you from I was too fair
Speaker 1: at that time. They didn't give it to me to
Speaker 1: give it the camera rightfully, so he deserved.
Speaker 3: But but I remember at one point, ain't them actually
Speaker 3: going to Canada and I'm filming outskirts because they couldn't
Speaker 3: make old school New York right?
Speaker 2: So but New York we have fifteen million movies, you know.
Speaker 2: So a lot of people didn't understand that.
Speaker 3: Sometimes when you look at Payton Fall when they playing
Speaker 3: the ball and they look the projects look mad.
Speaker 1: Oh that's not even New York, that's Canada. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Magic, bro, We'll be magic.
Speaker 3: But with you now introducing the real part of London,
Speaker 3: or like you said, that side of London.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: If a movie company came to you and said, yo,
Speaker 3: I want you to film London. Bridge is going down,
Speaker 3: but I want you to film it in Poland or on.
Speaker 1: The sound stage. If I can make it look like London. Okay,
Speaker 1: if I can make it look lot London.
Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah, if I'm not. If I'm telling them,
Speaker 2: what are you giving to give me green screen today?
Speaker 2: Are you're gonna give me some sort of c J budget?
Speaker 2: Or how am I gonna make this lot? I'll do
Speaker 2: that A lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: If you remember the beginning of the end of the
Speaker 2: first episode when you see them in a few Joe ah, yes,
Speaker 2: and you see like the Piccadilly and all the screens.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like our version of Times Square. All
Speaker 2: of that is green screen. We weren't picking, but we
Speaker 2: couldn't get it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I did not tell ye green screen screen
Speaker 1: is crazy.
Speaker 2: Is crazy now, So most of the stuff you're watching
Speaker 2: is probably not actually it. To be honest, I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't crowd to hold onto that for anything you're watching.
Speaker 1: Really, No, no, you don't.
Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense, wouldn't. It's cheaper elsewhere you can
Speaker 2: put green screen on and just putting New York in
Speaker 2: the back job and they got screens that are like
Speaker 2: like like stack like like bro, my thing was thirty
Speaker 2: foot two three sixty wide, so we was in the
Speaker 2: green light.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they could do sixty shot.
Speaker 2: So everything on that thirty four is whatever we want
Speaker 2: that to be. I could make it look like this
Speaker 2: whole building if you wanted to. So, yeah, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: be with me, he told me, because I would have
Speaker 2: betore give to me and been like, yo, superstill has
Speaker 2: some green school, Like no, it.
Speaker 1: Was, I would have bet that's that's the movies now,
Speaker 1: Like I couldn't tell none of that.
Speaker 2: You did a great job, so you'll be surprised the
Speaker 2: films that you are watching that you think you sit
Speaker 2: here and sit there, but it's really just green screen.
Speaker 2: There's not really much of a difference, you know. It's honestly.
Speaker 2: I asked the same question to my SFX guy and
Speaker 2: they were just like, one's just older and ones just newer.
Speaker 2: But they both do the same thing. You can put
Speaker 2: them all on the screen, but green screen is kind
Speaker 2: of the old school, and sometimes you can screen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they do the same thing.
Speaker 3: The people behind the camera, right, the fact that you
Speaker 3: have an all black cast, does that affect how you
Speaker 3: who you high up that's behind the camera.
Speaker 2: I wanted this show to be the benchmark for a
Speaker 2: majority of black productions. It wasn't just in front, like
Speaker 2: all of our heads of departments were black. The person
Speaker 2: that show it, they had a costume, they had a
Speaker 2: mad cup. We got a lot of black hds, and
Speaker 2: we look for the people in film and TV that
Speaker 2: was at that level that could get in there because
Speaker 2: there's I don't think it's good enough just to have
Speaker 2: everyone in front of the camera be black and then
Speaker 2: the presentations behind stool will be non black.
Speaker 1: So we went out of the way. And Netflix was
Speaker 1: cool that they knew.
Speaker 2: Good thing with all the women and me eating their
Speaker 2: free food, they knew they knew what I wanted to do.
Speaker 2: You're going to come out and feed me if you're
Speaker 2: gonna be like they're basically wooing me. You know they
Speaker 2: were cooting me. If you're going to coot me, don't
Speaker 2: coote me. And then when you get me, don't treat
Speaker 2: me like you don't want me.
Speaker 1: Let me do. I doing it.
Speaker 2: So I literally got everything I wanted to do, and
Speaker 2: I was like yo, every time they'll be putted, like yo,
Speaker 2: you came to me like okay, you're going to let
Speaker 2: me wrong with it. So that's why I feel I
Speaker 2: can laugh. It is good to earn your position rather
Speaker 2: than Chase Nick. When you chase it, you're going to
Speaker 2: have to be working at their pace. But when they
Speaker 2: come to you, you work at your own past.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you could answer this, but if
Speaker 4: you can't being obviously they funded the whole production, right,
Speaker 4: and it's your creative You wrote everything, and everything is you?
Speaker 1: You directed it? How is it in perpetuity? I don't
Speaker 1: own that. You don't I owned zero percent of How
Speaker 1: that change moving forward?
Speaker 2: If one day Netflix wakeoff and say, you know what,
Speaker 2: we're giving shows to people?
Speaker 1: Do you want?
Speaker 2: Do you want your show that you created and written?
Speaker 2: And that's not going to happen. So it doesn't change
Speaker 2: with Netflix. But that's just Netflix's model, right. I'm not
Speaker 2: here to complain about it. I knew what I was
Speaker 2: walking into, Like people have walked away from dells that
Speaker 2: you would see.
Speaker 1: Do you know McKay cole, who done that? I made Astray?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 1: That's a show?
Speaker 2: Could I made Astray from a British ride with one
Speaker 2: loads of film awards and now it was a big show.
Speaker 2: And so it says that it was written that she
Speaker 2: turned down a big patchock because she didn't want to
Speaker 2: go there because she couldn't own anything, and I for that.
Speaker 2: That was her second TV show, so she she probably
Speaker 2: saw it was like on her first TV shows. I've
Speaker 2: probably told herself second time around, I'm not doing that,
Speaker 2: and she walked away from the deal and then the
Speaker 2: show became a massive successful it went anyway.
Speaker 1: I wasn't walking away from the deal because that was my.
Speaker 2: First TV show and now opening for you, I'll take
Speaker 2: this money and if you's gonna keep that one, that's fine.
Speaker 1: I'll make another one.
Speaker 2: You know. I wasn't worried about that. Like cool, use
Speaker 2: it on Superstar. I know enough to know about me.
Speaker 2: The show probably wouldn't be the same, so it's cool.
Speaker 2: But in generally, even if that show is theirs, I
Speaker 2: can make another show. And now now I know how
Speaker 2: it goes, now goes next time round, I'm going to
Speaker 2: be trying to go into my own ship back with it.
Speaker 2: You know, are we trying to stick with series or
Speaker 2: we're going to go onto the feature films?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, I'm going into moods. Bro I fell into TV
Speaker 2: by accident when I was writing super so it wasn't meant.
Speaker 1: To be TV. But I'm at two hundred pages. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the Yeah. Now, I didn't want to do TV.
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't.
Speaker 2: It just felt like for me to go down as
Speaker 2: one of the great. When you think of all the
Speaker 2: great filmmakers, you're not thinking of no TV shows. Like
Speaker 2: you mentioned, like, who's your favorite filmmaker? If you've got
Speaker 2: any director, he's your favorite filmmaker. Oh man, that's a
Speaker 2: good one. You could just be anybody who's one of
Speaker 2: your favorites. I evenough to be your best Larry David
Speaker 2: or what TV show did Larry David do?
Speaker 1: Enthusiasm? Ah to you? You one off? That's right off?
Speaker 1: But TV specific, TV TV different.
Speaker 2: You might to direct, Okay, okay, okay, most men I
Speaker 2: can't think TV. Most men are not because you don't
Speaker 2: even know who the directors the TV are. You know
Speaker 2: that you like this show, but you don't know who
Speaker 2: created it, because it's not even the director I show.
Speaker 2: What makes the TV show is not the director.
Speaker 1: They add to it.
Speaker 2: They're very vital, but it's the person that creates it,
Speaker 2: the person that had the idea for Game of France,
Speaker 2: for the Wire, for Breaking Back.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they got multiple directors on the EISO.
Speaker 2: I directed Free and my other I had another director.
Speaker 1: I love how everything it says and created, but I
Speaker 1: needed to be clear. It needed to be clear still
Speaker 1: because I didn't come in from TV.
Speaker 2: If you're watching this TV, this ain't going to be
Speaker 2: that TV. I don't know who made, who was riding
Speaker 2: some franals, who was directed? No, no, no, you're gonna
Speaker 2: think superent. You're gonn figure that man. So now when
Speaker 2: I'm trying to go and do a movie, that's my
Speaker 2: currency now, souse.
Speaker 1: But I'm trying to do movies more.
Speaker 2: I've got another I've got seasons of super Cell in
Speaker 2: my head, and I've got another TV show I want
Speaker 2: to do. But I really want to go back to movies.
Speaker 2: And that's mainly because I would in a fact, it
Speaker 2: comes with that prestige. I just love watching my work
Speaker 2: about live audience. So the best you get to that,
Speaker 2: you get the premiers, But then you have to go
Speaker 2: on Twitter and see what people are saying. I want
Speaker 2: to sit in the room with you and hear you
Speaker 2: laugh at the joke, you cry at their emotion, and
Speaker 2: you don't. You just don't get that with TV man,
Speaker 2: And that's why I want to go back and do
Speaker 2: some movies, but I still want my show to be going.
Speaker 8: For you to get that titling, you go on Twitter
Speaker 8: negative hard, so hard not to bron but I.
Speaker 1: Never know. I try so hard not to, but you don't.
Speaker 1: Just want to know what people is the best place
Speaker 1: for that one hundred percent?
Speaker 2: If you want to know what people think about drink childs, yes,
Speaker 2: we see, but you know and why steep though, Like
Speaker 2: it makes you think are you damaged? Because I will
Speaker 2: read a thousand positive messages telling me how great with me?
Speaker 1: It's like that in your ears. Tell you that and
Speaker 1: you want to hit him back mean while everyone else
Speaker 1: is saying is great.
Speaker 4: But you know what do we care about the negative?
Speaker 4: When you're saying so much loss? That shows you the
Speaker 4: power negativity. Man, You know what I heard, and it's crazy.
Speaker 4: They said real artists love to be abused.
Speaker 1: I don't have to be abused.
Speaker 2: I don't love to be but I recognized that, my my,
Speaker 2: you know, I recognize when I'm in that area.
Speaker 4: Real artists are sensitive and the egos are sensitively.
Speaker 2: I could get sensitive with negativity because I've just seen
Speaker 2: there's ways to say it, like if I didn't last something.
Speaker 2: I don't need to play it down. I can just
Speaker 2: tell you what I did, Like there's way so I
Speaker 2: did get a sense with it, but I need.
Speaker 1: To start doing it. I don't think it's healthy, man.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's healthy to go on there, especially
Speaker 4: when there's trolls on there that they're not even really
Speaker 4: real people.
Speaker 2: You know, everybody loves something you have. There's there's people
Speaker 2: out there that their job is to go against it,
Speaker 2: you know, so then you see the negative and you
Speaker 2: start thinking, oh, man, like it's deal, So I need
Speaker 2: to start doing that.
Speaker 1: Though. You can post a picture of a baby, everybody
Speaker 1: like she's so cute.
Speaker 2: There's some nigga named Hacksaw Jim thirty four, it's like
Speaker 2: fuck that.
Speaker 1: Baby, Yeah, And then it's just like.
Speaker 2: That human nature some of us, like I think that's
Speaker 2: the only time they get attention on the day. I
Speaker 2: feel that the only time they shine, the only time
Speaker 2: they looked outside of their regular job, where they feel
Speaker 2: like if they get that top comment on the blood
Speaker 2: page or that top comment on loads of lamps on
Speaker 2: their Twitter page, that's their win.
Speaker 3: Social media, not in real life, but social media kind
Speaker 3: of made everybody on the same level.
Speaker 1: It's crazy to.
Speaker 2: Me because you read the message. Once you read the message,
Speaker 2: you're in the world.
Speaker 1: But there's also AI bots that just troll.
Speaker 2: What about that show now, especially somebody have to set
Speaker 2: the box onto someone's an asshole enough that a.
Speaker 4: Tech guy says, Okay, I'm a dick and I just
Speaker 4: want to be a dick to the world, and they
Speaker 4: find keywords to go and to be back.
Speaker 1: To you just to troll. That's crazy. That's crazy. I
Speaker 1: never engaged in it though, so I'll just leave it.
Speaker 1: But it is what it is. No, but I wanted
Speaker 1: to ask you, did you how much did you have
Speaker 1: to fight for your titling? Oh? No, no at all.
Speaker 1: You know, not a tool.
Speaker 2: I can't even really talk bout on Netflix because say that.
Speaker 2: See when you watch the show today with everything you
Speaker 2: love about it, I can put my hands up and
Speaker 2: say that's me and think you for Nah, it's not
Speaker 2: that I have to put my hands up saying bro,
Speaker 2: that was me because they let me run. And I
Speaker 2: think it was only because, as I said, they pursued
Speaker 2: me and my vision for it was so clear, and
Speaker 2: we're talking about a world that they're not familiar with.
Speaker 2: That South London world is very specific, so.
Speaker 1: You can't even criticize it.
Speaker 2: It was hard to say, and I'm like, no, that's
Speaker 2: what they would say, that's what they would do, so
Speaker 2: they kind of let me.
Speaker 1: Does go with it. Man.
Speaker 2: But the Titland, I remember there was, so there was
Speaker 2: the Titland. Creative written by are usually on the same cards,
Speaker 2: you know, like if you got creative written by on
Speaker 2: the first episode, you don't need to have it everywhere else.
Speaker 1: So I remember one time.
Speaker 2: One of the team I'm not going to say it was,
Speaker 2: was like, you know, raps, you know, you've got it
Speaker 2: on the front card, so you don't really need it
Speaker 2: on the next two cards. I was like, I know,
Speaker 2: so should we take off? And said no, I said,
Speaker 2: don't know, I'm not taking off. I wanted it to
Speaker 2: be every card that you could get. Separate written by director,
Speaker 2: created by separate, just so you know, you know who
Speaker 2: I saw do it like?
Speaker 1: And she shown the rams on Queen Charlotte.
Speaker 2: She got a bridging show and she remember she don't
Speaker 2: she produces the Bridge and but she don't write them.
Speaker 2: But she wrote this particular one, this spinoff, Yeah, which
Speaker 2: I could bet you were the first person to do
Speaker 2: that too. I would have lost too best I would
Speaker 2: I would have done it anyway. But it Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: this show was probably it probably wasn't yours to watch,
Speaker 2: but I watched it because I watch everything. But I
Speaker 2: saw written by shond the Rams great. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I see what you didn't shounder Netflix.
Speaker 1: I forget that. Why not if you've done it, it's
Speaker 1: not like a light I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah by all means. And you were in one scene
Speaker 2: in the movie and a series.
Speaker 1: My little Stanley Carrier, which wasn't mine.
Speaker 2: I originally wasn't on it, but my director, the direct episode,
Speaker 2: was really pushing on it. I said, you know what's
Speaker 2: in the club when he disappears and he goes back?
Speaker 1: And you're like, I think you said right there? Probably
Speaker 1: you did you see that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like my little little homage to Stanley,
Speaker 2: because you know Marvel Mavie Stanley. Yeah, my little homage
Speaker 2: to it. And I thought that was pretty cool. It
Speaker 2: wasn't my dea you should do that, but I didn't
Speaker 2: like it.
Speaker 3: You should you should do that because I could tell
Speaker 3: you attached to this project. I could tell, like, this
Speaker 3: project is your baby. So I don't know if we
Speaker 3: spoke about this earlier, but maybe we did, and maybe
Speaker 3: we did. We said we're going to features films and
Speaker 3: we said, uh, let me ask you this.
Speaker 2: No, no, let me ask you this. This is what
Speaker 2: I meant to ask earlier. Could you film all white cats?
Speaker 1: I could, but at this part in my life I won't.
Speaker 2: Now, I thought that my position now is to give
Speaker 2: black actors a chance staying with yeah. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 2: there's just not every ten movies over all white cars.
Speaker 2: So a non black there's one, you know, which is
Speaker 2: best work for this for black actors happened to fly
Speaker 2: over over here to get work? I think the wrong
Speaker 2: My thing now, it kind of it just has to
Speaker 2: be a black league. I don't mind if everybody else
Speaker 2: around him is white at the more man if I car,
Speaker 2: but the story that we're following, the main person has
Speaker 2: to be black for me at the moment, at this
Speaker 2: stage in my career. I'm not saying it might not
Speaker 2: change ten years from now, but I feel like you
Speaker 2: see when you watch.
Speaker 1: The spight Lee movie, you know you you know, you
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna get.
Speaker 2: You know, he's there to uplift the community, and I'm
Speaker 2: inspired by what's Splaightley done.
Speaker 1: You know, I think he came out of the gate.
Speaker 1: So he did like a white movie though he did
Speaker 1: did he do?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: Come on? Come on? He did like a white movie
Speaker 1: or a white series of I haven't seen it. And
Speaker 1: if it was, how long it was? I mean it
Speaker 1: was series. I don't take a was the lead black though?
Speaker 2: I don't know if number one of the cool she's
Speaker 2: black and everyone around the person is not black, that's
Speaker 2: that's that's that's to me, It's still the.
Speaker 1: Same thing because because then that what that does.
Speaker 2: It shows that you can be black and lead a movie,
Speaker 2: which means that now other black opportunities off that as well.
Speaker 2: But what I did with the main white lead? Would
Speaker 2: I be tempting this? Someone said, lean On DiCaprio, Robert
Speaker 2: and Nero this, of course I would be. But they're
Speaker 2: not gonna be like, how can I sneak? So we'll
Speaker 2: say I'm going to be like, yeah, no, no, commercial,
Speaker 2: don't play about commercial, bron I'll get back to I
Speaker 2: figured it out.
Speaker 1: I forget what it was.
Speaker 2: Maybe he was a consultant on something, maybe that, but
Speaker 2: that it says something hbs him.
Speaker 1: I don't think yeah, being a consultant.
Speaker 2: Just want to think an that you know, but he
Speaker 2: was actual name has written don I don't think I've
Speaker 2: seen I haven't seen anything that comes back.
Speaker 1: But could you tell the whole New York story? He's
Speaker 1: the movie I just wrote was based on the Hold
Speaker 1: of New York. Wow. Yeah. I can't say too much
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: But it's a sixth story and it's setting you, and
Speaker 2: it's said you in the nineteen seventies actually as well.
Speaker 1: Seven easy. I can write story in any time. I
Speaker 1: was going seventy seven, just in case you're going you
Speaker 1: want to throw Yeah, you can do New York.
Speaker 2: So yeah, man, So I don't my about where it's set.
Speaker 2: It's just I just need to understand the story and
Speaker 2: the characters. If I understand the person's motivation and you
Speaker 2: know his aspirations, his weaknesses, I can tell the story.
Speaker 1: Goddamn.
Speaker 4: Is there a creative like process you go through to
Speaker 4: come up with stories? Is there anything that inspires you?
Speaker 4: Is amused to you?
Speaker 1: I have to watch everything.
Speaker 2: It's crazy, but you see, if you tell me there's
Speaker 2: a show that's cold, I will watch it and.
Speaker 1: It might not even be my cup of tea. But
Speaker 1: I need to know what got you so excited about it?
Speaker 2: Right, So because someone if you got excited about it,
Speaker 2: there's probably thousands of other people that are excited about
Speaker 2: that same thing. So what can I take from there
Speaker 2: to add to my game? To see what people are into?
Speaker 2: Because you that's the only way you stay comming.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I never got a chance to go film school any
Speaker 2: of these places. It was just me relentlessly watching film
Speaker 2: and TV learning how to do I'll do. So if
Speaker 2: I'm writing a gangster movie, I will watch every single
Speaker 2: gangster movie. I would find the list of the ten
Speaker 2: greatest gangs movies of all time, and I would watch
Speaker 2: them all back to back before I start, right because
Speaker 2: I need to see what did everybody love about all
Speaker 2: of these movies? And now I need to go in
Speaker 2: with my take on what you know. So that's kind
Speaker 2: of my process that makes sense about reality shows.
Speaker 1: Nah, it's not my bag, mind, it's just not my bag.
Speaker 2: I think big of everyone that's made of living off
Speaker 2: of it, and it's doing well for me, But I
Speaker 2: just don't watch them.
Speaker 1: It's just not it's not even reality.
Speaker 2: It's a scripture. Now, now I remember back in the
Speaker 2: day when Big Brothers first came out in the UK, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the UK.
Speaker 1: Out here Bro Big Brother came out.
Speaker 2: I was young at the time, but that was the
Speaker 2: real world, real world now, I think big Brother Brother,
Speaker 2: Big Brother.
Speaker 1: Big Brother and that came out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I watched that and it was crazy because
Speaker 2: that was a real reality show because.
Speaker 1: They didn't know that.
Speaker 2: Okay at the time, if someone has sex, you get
Speaker 2: fifty grand. If you do something sneaky, you get this.
Speaker 1: No one knew this. Yeah, yeah, that was the rule
Speaker 1: with Big Brother really yeah, yeah, say you get money.
Speaker 1: But remember the contestants don't know this. Okay, they don't
Speaker 1: know this.
Speaker 2: So there was a villain in the show, but it
Speaker 2: was a real villain, like he was doing sneaky things,
Speaker 2: like he'll go up to you and say, yeah, man,
Speaker 2: I don't I don't really feel him.
Speaker 1: And they got up to you and say, yeah, what
Speaker 1: do you if you can know? Just this was a
Speaker 1: real two faced guy. I'm watching this like it's just real.
Speaker 1: People actually like this and I'm never thinking, nah, this
Speaker 1: is actually crazy ye e TV. And I was a
Speaker 1: fan of that.
Speaker 2: Season two came out and then it's like the rule
Speaker 2: they watched the season once, so everyone knew because you know,
Speaker 2: if we have sex with the mind, so they're trying
Speaker 2: to have sex doing the sneakiness. You got mad deals
Speaker 2: when he came out, and you got loads of I'm
Speaker 2: hosting gigs, so that everyone in the next season was
Speaker 2: trying to do that, and I was like, no, it's
Speaker 2: not real nor more like when it was pure and
Speaker 2: nobody knew. You was actually just watching normal people doing
Speaker 2: what normal people do. After that, when I started seeing
Speaker 2: clips of other stuff, I was like, he's the thing
Speaker 2: what she was doing.
Speaker 1: She was the thing what she was doing.
Speaker 2: So I kind of had a sour taste my myth
Speaker 2: for reality TV because I know it's I know what
Speaker 2: the aim is.
Speaker 1: The aim is for everyone to come out. You want
Speaker 1: to have a career when you come out.
Speaker 2: So I feel like your guy on putting on a role,
Speaker 2: which is fine, but just telling me, I'm watching the
Speaker 2: scripture TV shows killing me.
Speaker 1: It's reality, so I kind of it's just not my back.
Speaker 1: And that's how the real world.
Speaker 4: It started out pretty real, and then after people saw it,
Speaker 4: then people started manipulating themselves.
Speaker 2: On Yeah, that's why you watch the first things of
Speaker 2: these things. You see the difference on how things were. One,
Speaker 2: if you got a chance to do the London version
Speaker 2: of Harlem Knights, I love Hall of Nance, I love
Speaker 2: I would do that in a heartbeat.
Speaker 3: But what I mean by that is, like, you know
Speaker 3: how hallm Nights is every There's nobody that's like that's
Speaker 3: not a star.
Speaker 2: Like everybody everybody started time. I watched the recognized Everybody
Speaker 2: with somebody Richard Star, but the main the main cast,
Speaker 2: the main start time. But even even to B and C,
Speaker 2: why people work somebody people coming up, But I'm talking
Speaker 2: about the main cast.
Speaker 1: The main cast. I love that movie. If you were
Speaker 1: to do that, but the London version or the UK version.
Speaker 2: I would do something like that, But later on in
Speaker 2: the day in my career, because they're already popping. If
Speaker 2: I say everybody was a star, let me get someone,
Speaker 2: Let me get some new If I could get some
Speaker 2: new faces in there along these stars, I would do it.
Speaker 1: But I'm big on giving new talent of chance.
Speaker 2: You know, when I was coming through, I was always
Speaker 2: wishing someone would put me on there, and I don't
Speaker 2: think it was I actually don't think anybody can put
Speaker 2: you on. I think you have to put yourself on.
Speaker 2: But I was always hoping somebody would. Nobody ever did
Speaker 2: so with me. Now when I even put people on,
Speaker 2: they're not just people who are walking on the street
Speaker 2: and I'm like, you do you want to be in
Speaker 2: the movie.
Speaker 1: It's not like that. It's people that I see their.
Speaker 2: Poston skits on their tiptop every single day, playing the dad,
Speaker 2: the mom, the brother.
Speaker 1: I'm not this guy can act. I'm an audition. You know.
Speaker 2: Maybe we take it from here today to so so
Speaker 2: I would rather have some of knows in there than
Speaker 2: have a full known cost.
Speaker 1: But I would I would do it as long as
Speaker 1: I can throw some new new guys in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love to see that harlum Nation. You know,
Speaker 2: I ain't even thought about that movie for a long time,
Speaker 2: but I did love it, especially when she's fighting, when
Speaker 2: she's fighting Eddie Murphy and and and she punches him up.
Speaker 1: That was dope.
Speaker 3: Man, Go back and watch how about Seinfeld because si
Speaker 3: Feld is is the opposite side.
Speaker 1: Only got one black dude in there.
Speaker 2: The same with friends, friends had like every someone every other,
Speaker 2: so never with friends. See, I wasn't rocking with Sinfield,
Speaker 2: but I rocked with Friends, neither of them. I was
Speaker 2: a big Friends fan. Sinfield never really held me, but
Speaker 2: I did love Friends, okay, but I saw I saw
Speaker 2: what people like to Seinfeld, but I was a more
Speaker 2: Friends guy. But both all of them shows in them
Speaker 2: days was ninety nine percent white casts. How about Supercell.
Speaker 2: We're gonna make this animated series? You got caol Netflix, bro.
Speaker 2: I even I think there could be, but again, you know,
Speaker 2: it's down to them. I can always pitch it, but
Speaker 2: it's down to them. That when I was in Vegas
Speaker 2: not too long ago and I saw the Stranger Things store,
Speaker 2: massive store, sanor Things, I was dope serious.
Speaker 1: And I remember saying, that's the dream.
Speaker 2: You know, that's super Cell store big like that in
Speaker 2: Vegas just wherever where people are just going in and
Speaker 2: coming out of Stranger.
Speaker 1: F T shirts like like it, you know, like it's
Speaker 1: Gucci product.
Speaker 2: That's how they feel with it. And I'm like, you've
Speaker 2: got a show like that. It's a no brainer. It's
Speaker 2: the Duffel brothers who do Stranger Things, winn into Netflix
Speaker 2: said what they want to do comic books. They're gonna
Speaker 2: buy the handoff because they've won. So I'm not in
Speaker 2: a rush in the process. I think, you know, give
Speaker 2: me two, three, four seasons?
Speaker 1: Yeah, why not? Let's go.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna tell you something. I went to go
Speaker 3: see Black Panther, right, I remember me me crying after
Speaker 3: the first one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not maybe because.
Speaker 3: The movie warranted me to cry, but because me seeing
Speaker 3: my people held in such a high standard, and then
Speaker 3: like having a whole like we start calling like us
Speaker 3: with Conda, like we were condo motherfucker, like right right,
Speaker 3: and then the second one prowd And then I remember
Speaker 3: not feeling that feeling again for a long time.
Speaker 2: And then Bob Marley's movie came.
Speaker 1: Out, One Lovetop Kingsley, and it wasn't.
Speaker 3: Like the superhero part of of Bob Marty. It was
Speaker 3: the normal part of Bob Marty that made me feel.
Speaker 2: That same exact thing, right, the same exact love, like,
Speaker 2: same exact passion of me seeing my people on screen
Speaker 2: and then being a superhero. I haven't had that feeling
Speaker 2: since until I've seen Super cell.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I'm not.
Speaker 3: And it's like I watched it and I was just
Speaker 3: like because and to me, this was even more relatable
Speaker 3: because a lot of us don't know our superpowers.
Speaker 1: A lot of us are.
Speaker 3: Superhero hundred and don't know our actual superpower.
Speaker 2: Yeah, after we will have a genius stability in us
Speaker 2: and we just have to unlook it. It's kind of
Speaker 2: like if you don't give being a sin Sainia a tennis,
Speaker 2: then we don't know. You know, you don't give j
Speaker 2: a microphone, you don't know. You know, you don't put
Speaker 2: Lewis behind the stand. Well, you don't know. So we
Speaker 2: just need to be put in our position and then
Speaker 2: our superpower activates.
Speaker 3: Well, because that's what I feel like. I feel like
Speaker 3: most of us is great. We just don't know. We
Speaker 3: don't know how to pull up the Spider Man. We
Speaker 3: don't know how to do our eyes like this. I
Speaker 3: gotta watchau.
Speaker 1: Super don't get too much. It is dope. I've been
Speaker 1: doing it all day and that doesn't work for me.
Speaker 3: I get Super Sun, but I s would have got
Speaker 3: I'm not guessing you not.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It's a certain proudness comes across on the screen, and
Speaker 3: I'll tell you the truth. It's gonna sound a little crazy.
Speaker 2: I get that certain I get that same proudness when
Speaker 2: I watched the Wire Like, I get that same problems
Speaker 2: when I watch something that that that that doesn't.
Speaker 1: Have that balance, but this has a perfect balance. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a brother.
Speaker 2: Was trying to save his girl, and in order to
Speaker 2: save his girl, he got to get together with four
Speaker 2: individuals that he does.
Speaker 1: Not know, no, don't even know where they are, don't
Speaker 1: know where.
Speaker 2: They are just and they also I don't want to
Speaker 2: say gagsters, but they also.
Speaker 1: Like tougher than him, more than he's been and.
Speaker 3: He's the one who can see in the future. So
Speaker 3: it always makes me feel like that, Like, you know,
Speaker 3: God bless me for going so deep. But like Malcolm
Speaker 3: X saw the future, woke about the future. He was like, yo,
Speaker 3: I see a world where everyone gets along. Holy shit,
Speaker 3: Malcolm or Martin Man had the dream Malcolm. After Malcolm
Speaker 3: went to Mecca, he said he saw a world where
Speaker 3: al Muslims.
Speaker 2: But Mary was saying that from the beginning, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you can put them both on the same level.
Speaker 1: A character.
Speaker 3: And when he came back from Mecca, that's he was
Speaker 3: saying that exactly. There's a character in the movie. I
Speaker 3: don't even want to say his names. I want you
Speaker 3: to figure it out for your own. But he sees
Speaker 3: into the future and sometimes seeing it into the future
Speaker 3: is not good and you don't want to break that
Speaker 3: to to like you know what I'm saying. So like
Speaker 3: I just felt like that ship was just so genius
Speaker 3: because it was like there's characters that I can relate to,
Speaker 3: but then their powers, it's.
Speaker 1: Like, oh I wish I had that. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: See, I wouldn't want to be able to see the
Speaker 2: future though, yeah, I wouldnt want now.
Speaker 1: I don't mind going back to the pass.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't made it to go to the future because
Speaker 2: if you if you go into the future and you
Speaker 2: find out that day you're going to do that much,
Speaker 2: how can you enjoy anything today?
Speaker 1: You can't really enjoy it.
Speaker 2: You might think your party and yolo until this day, coss,
Speaker 2: but that's just on your back of your head forever.
Speaker 2: So I don't want to know the future. You don't
Speaker 2: want to go to the future and see that dream
Speaker 2: child and say hey no more. You know that's the
Speaker 2: time you're just thinking whatever I've done, What did I
Speaker 2: do in this path to make this go away? So
Speaker 2: you just you don't want to know the future. So
Speaker 2: like that's what that's why I love the show, because
Speaker 2: he goes there and he doesn't burden her with this.
Speaker 1: And you know, I see some trolls like why did
Speaker 1: he just tell her? Why did he just tell him?
Speaker 1: Like but killing he's crying, you see, he's killing to die.
Speaker 1: You've just killed me, kill this. I don't want to
Speaker 1: know this now. I can't.
Speaker 2: There's nothing I can do before then I can actually
Speaker 2: generally be happy. Nothing means nothing now. So that's why
Speaker 2: that's why I personally love about the show. And I
Speaker 2: think if you watch it with that lens of really
Speaker 2: seeing the layers of it, you see why, like your
Speaker 2: confidences are been so nice to head to the other
Speaker 2: people have said similar things because when you watch it,
Speaker 2: you start seeing the legs you think, this is actually deep, man,
Speaker 2: this is actually this means this, and that means that
Speaker 2: there is so many even meanings I didn't do on purpose,
Speaker 2: because how I think is a writing as a man.
Speaker 2: I'm writing things with my subconscious in there, so I'm
Speaker 2: doing things. So that's probably why you're picking up for
Speaker 2: certain things as well.
Speaker 3: Right, And and that's why I want to see the
Speaker 3: future because I'm not gonna blue to blow it up.
Speaker 3: But like the part too when he's saying, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go back and I'm gonna figure out this.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna figure about this, and I'm gonna figure about that.
Speaker 3: And it was just like it just set it up
Speaker 3: for me to just be like, damn, my motherfucker, like
Speaker 3: I wanted the season too, like right then and there.
Speaker 3: If I would have had to buy season two right
Speaker 3: then and there.
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone would have, you know. I think
Speaker 1: I would have, like everybody would have, you know, but
Speaker 1: we've done that.
Speaker 2: I undered it a lot that because the one thing
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, I want to leave people want it more.
Speaker 1: You know that.
Speaker 2: There was times it wasn't going to end that way
Speaker 2: and I was like, nah, this is just this is
Speaker 2: gonna make people more and this you know something, we
Speaker 2: can get the season two and we can expand it.
Speaker 1: Right. Do you think.
Speaker 2: Do you think black people appreciate it as much as
Speaker 2: you catered to black people. I think I think the
Speaker 2: black community showed out that our numbers went crazy because
Speaker 2: of the black community.
Speaker 1: Was number one, was the number one for the last
Speaker 1: two weeks.
Speaker 2: We just yeah, so and that was interally because black
Speaker 2: people spreading the work, going into work, telling their their
Speaker 2: counterparts that work you know, have you seen this?
Speaker 1: Have you seen that line?
Speaker 2: They showed that I can't even have I've got not
Speaker 2: one bit of anger for the black community. Even the
Speaker 2: people that are online trolling it, they understand that when
Speaker 2: they're going on Twitter and trolling and they're starting a
Speaker 2: conversation with someone watch anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when they don't get that.
Speaker 2: They think they're pulling it down, when they don't know,
Speaker 2: they're making more people watch.
Speaker 1: So it really the day really came out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, there's a superhero in Queens. The Joker
Speaker 2: even come from the Bronx. Batman come from Got Them City,
Speaker 2: which is New York. The Man come from Queen is
Speaker 2: meant to be New York, is it or Chicago? Colfin
Speaker 2: was meant to be based on New York. Yeah. Then
Speaker 2: they went across the pond and got superheroes. Miami, I mean,
Speaker 2: got ship we.
Speaker 1: Need to figure out. I just realized that that that
Speaker 1: Miami ain't got man.
Speaker 2: You're gonna go Miami, bro, you got to I said,
Speaker 2: we got the cocaine Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but to was fake, so we need like not
Speaker 1: none of the superheroes are huh No.
Speaker 4: But Tony Mont was based on real I know that
Speaker 4: collection of people, which is a Cocaine cowboy era.
Speaker 1: I know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So would you do a superhero story in Miami,
Speaker 2: I'll do that. That Cocaine and Flies, I mean.
Speaker 1: The second part.
Speaker 2: I definitely, I definitely went to the story in Miami
Speaker 2: said I was gonna shoot at me be Miami just
Speaker 2: before COVID came and watched Their Way. So Miami is
Speaker 2: the whole capital people want to come in. But I
Speaker 2: think knowing is we're not familiar with the rough part.
Speaker 2: We think of Miami.
Speaker 1: We think of the Yeah, you know, it's like it's
Speaker 1: like London.
Speaker 2: You feel.
Speaker 4: I feel like the struggles they showed me South Beach
Speaker 4: and South Beach. Yeah, Mia, Miami, you know, walk to
Speaker 4: Miami just America like you be a good.
Speaker 2: Story to tell, though, lot, this is the Miami that
Speaker 2: most people know. Then you see the South Beach, but
Speaker 2: this is the real Then you go into the hood
Speaker 2: of it. Would watched that.
Speaker 4: Movie, watched Cocaine Cowboys the documentary, I've seen a lot
Speaker 4: of that probably.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's a big part of Miami. But there's
Speaker 1: a lot more to Miami.
Speaker 3: Man, so so and the scope comes to you, excuse me,
Speaker 3: Universal comes to you and says, right, man, you got
Speaker 3: a choice the one video for one of our artists
Speaker 3: Universal now, Kendrick Lamar or Drake.
Speaker 1: I like how you said that up Kilty.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm doing I mean personally, I'm doing it for
Speaker 2: Kendrick right now. Okay, I would do it for Kendrew
Speaker 2: right now. Lie, but your accent is more like Drake's.
Speaker 1: I love taking wrong, you.
Speaker 2: Love takings wrong. But if you're I'm a business mine
Speaker 2: right now. I feel like the smart business is on. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure, I wasn't ready. I feel like Kendricks where
Speaker 2: you put your money right now.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. You got a little bit of
Speaker 3: your malleable rum left taking the left big Yeah, we're
Speaker 3: bigging you up. Man, I take a little bit.
Speaker 1: I want to jerk like that. Man. I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I'm really really proud of you.
Speaker 2: I'm really proud of thank you, you know, rock Nation
Speaker 2: for seeing your vision appreciate them on and yourself, you know,
Speaker 2: for seeing.
Speaker 1: You and James.
Speaker 3: Very strong minded black individuals doing black things with black
Speaker 3: cast And by the way, God bless me for saying
Speaker 3: it this way and saying it like this. A lot
Speaker 3: of people always say support black, and then sometimes the
Speaker 3: quality of that black product isn't up.
Speaker 1: To park, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: If there's if there's a black Findy, I'm gonna support
Speaker 3: the black Findy way more.
Speaker 1: But I don't want to, you know, you don't want
Speaker 1: to have a lesser credity problem. And that's why I
Speaker 1: commend you.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I was trying to critique you, like
Speaker 3: in a good way, like just to be like, yo,
Speaker 3: let me, let me just find some flaws in this,
Speaker 3: you know, and I just couldn't because it's really put together,
Speaker 3: and I knew the way told me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say it was was this time
Speaker 2: for you and the worst if Tied.
Speaker 3: Didn't say, you know what, I started to watch it.
Speaker 3: Yeah before that, I remember. I remember it was slow
Speaker 3: and I didn't catch it because it kept being number
Speaker 3: one on my chip. So I just kept looking and
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, cool. And then when said
Speaker 3: that to me, I was.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, this is hard. This is what I saw already.
Speaker 3: And then me and my wife we went we watched it,
Speaker 3: and then we watched this again today and I was
Speaker 3: just like, holy shit, man, Like I said, if I
Speaker 3: was a young dude from the hood that didn't have this,
Speaker 3: this career, didn't have this. That's that's something I would
Speaker 3: look at for inspiration.
Speaker 2: Now I've been getting a lot of that, and I
Speaker 2: appreciate that mine. It has made people who a lot
Speaker 2: of people reach out. He was just like, you know,
Speaker 2: I've never fought by acting before, but I want to
Speaker 2: be something like this or kind of how do I
Speaker 2: make something like this?
Speaker 1: Is it? It has really uplifted a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Man, just to see people who look like cost doing
Speaker 2: things like that and just seeing it getting taken in
Speaker 2: by the world.
Speaker 1: You know, I think it was just needed mine. Now
Speaker 1: I think it was. It was it was the right time.
Speaker 1: And one thing that was genius about it was you
Speaker 1: didn't label it.
Speaker 3: He sees it episode one, episode two, you named it
Speaker 3: the names of the characters, so you fall in love
Speaker 3: with the actual.
Speaker 1: I was like, YO, surprised what that does to you?
Speaker 1: I don't know what. Wait.
Speaker 2: You see when you see a show episode called Sabrina
Speaker 2: say that we've only got forty percent of Sabrina in
Speaker 2: there when we really needed sixty percent. Your mind is
Speaker 2: automatically not telling you you're looking for everything Sabrina say,
Speaker 2: so everything she's doing, you're watching that because you're thinking,
Speaker 2: this is another episode about so.
Speaker 1: It takes you there.
Speaker 2: So it's kind of like a way and so it
Speaker 2: does exactly what you said as well, you get to
Speaker 2: know that character individual, but it really makes you know, Okay,
Speaker 2: so I'm getting to know Michael hair tas the hair
Speaker 2: on your hair. And any time you get to the
Speaker 2: six you feel like you've known them now you're ready
Speaker 2: for them to come together. And yeah, that was always
Speaker 2: the way it was planned to do it like that. Man,
Speaker 2: it's honestly, we put a work into the show.
Speaker 3: Let me just tell you something creatively, and I'm a
Speaker 3: creative person. I was just like, this shit is crazy,
Speaker 3: Like like, he didn't I said, he didn't label it.
Speaker 3: He labeled it so you could fall in love with
Speaker 3: the characters.
Speaker 2: So by next season, that next season, the straight smoke,
Speaker 2: I don't introduce you to the normal people like yourself say,
Speaker 2: it starts so slow what she does if you don't,
Speaker 2: but you see season two, it don't start slow. That's
Speaker 2: guying off. We're a getting flat. Well as long as
Speaker 2: we get I already know I've got the opening scene.
Speaker 2: So my cost already normal opening. I'm not gonna give
Speaker 2: it cheese up. No, no, but the opening scene is
Speaker 2: just smoke.
Speaker 1: I take another saying. So so let me ask you.
Speaker 1: The budget comes in, it's exactly what you asked for.
Speaker 3: Because everything was based out of London this time that
Speaker 3: you didn't go anywhere, because that's yeah with Scotland.
Speaker 1: When the guy yeah yeah, scot We actually went to sculling.
Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite scenes. It's funny we actually sculling.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I feel so sorry because you look at
Speaker 2: it to watch it, you don't watch it, watch the trailer?
Speaker 1: Did you not talk? Of course you're not. And I
Speaker 1: went back. I watched you know, I watched the Netflix one,
Speaker 1: and then I went back to watch the older the
Speaker 1: first one.
Speaker 2: The first one was my favorite one and I loved it.
Speaker 2: If you're not that word, yeah, you're right. Yeah you
Speaker 2: went to see pay stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It was a time where they didn't know their powers,
Speaker 2: but they using it.
Speaker 1: They're using it. By I'm because I don't want him
Speaker 1: to tell me any more. Ship. I'm sorry because I
Speaker 1: got little kids in the grip. This is the weekend
Speaker 1: is the time where I'm gonna watch it all that's
Speaker 1: crazy to do it.
Speaker 2: So it's this one guy and I believe his thing
Speaker 2: is speed, but he's so fast that he ran.
Speaker 1: To another country.
Speaker 3: Saying like so I'm looking at him like because I
Speaker 3: think it's called Lima or Lima or something like that.
Speaker 1: The part of Scotland that we went to Edinburgh, Edin
Speaker 1: and he goes, where have my hat?
Speaker 2: And he goes and then the lady goes to him,
Speaker 2: tells him where he's yet, and he goes, well, where's
Speaker 2: that at? And he goes, you know, another one like
Speaker 2: like you in Scotland and then he comes back.
Speaker 3: This is the part that really really really really really
Speaker 3: dope about our people is we can I can have.
Speaker 2: The illest power in the world and comes to you
Speaker 2: and tell you, Yo, I got the ill power. You're like,
Speaker 2: well do it now, that's what it was.
Speaker 1: You have to show improvement, you know.
Speaker 3: Every one of them went back and was like telling
Speaker 3: their friends. But they were telling them nonchalant. They're not
Speaker 3: trying to like they're not trying to like, you know,
Speaker 3: get you excited.
Speaker 2: Or something like like, yo, listen, I think there's something
Speaker 2: wrong with me, but I think like it's in a
Speaker 2: good way.
Speaker 3: All of their friends was like, it's calm down. What
Speaker 3: friends said to him, Okay, do it now then, like
Speaker 3: that's just how we are, Like all people.
Speaker 1: Are fund and you couldn't do it, and you know
Speaker 1: it's funny. Can we grow out watching all these cpero
Speaker 1: shows and it's not. The rule is you got your
Speaker 1: you don't tell no one.
Speaker 2: Bro. You're gonna tell you someone, your partner, your closest friends,
Speaker 2: somebody is getting the hair and that whatever.
Speaker 1: It's your brother or sister.
Speaker 2: So for me, I was like nah, And the reactions
Speaker 2: need to be realistic because you told me you can fly,
Speaker 2: you can fly, you can fly.
Speaker 1: Let me see you flying them.
Speaker 2: Bro, I'm gonna want to see that. So that is
Speaker 2: my realistic reaction. And that's the show's reaction. Everyone's reaction
Speaker 2: is show me. You can't just say you know it's
Speaker 2: hilarious and these are these people best friends. It's like,
Speaker 2: so it's not like they're going to tell Like the
Speaker 2: guy a security guard at Walmart, they told him to yo,
Speaker 2: you know, I think something's wrong with men. The people
Speaker 2: were like, you need to calm down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's real. It's so grounded.
Speaker 2: That's what makes it because you're thinking if you're it's
Speaker 2: just people flying through the air, but it's not.
Speaker 1: You can take away the powers and still.
Speaker 2: Follow these following these people for the show, because that'
Speaker 2: how entertaining their Conso month this weekend, Man, I ain't
Speaker 2: gonna lie to you, man, I was so excited, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, you know, to give you your flowers.
Speaker 1: Man, I appreciate him.
Speaker 3: Uh, I'm excited about what's going on around your way,
Speaker 3: what's going on with London, the energy, that's everything that's happening.
Speaker 1: You know, the rappers, you guys get finally getting your props.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at one point it was just y'all giving y'rself props, right,
Speaker 3: but I started to like, you know, but then now
Speaker 3: it's like, you know what I mean, like, uh, what
Speaker 3: what's the little Baby record with?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah you can go yeah yeah, Yeah, he's killlling it.
Speaker 3: I've been saying it all day. I said, we could
Speaker 3: go broth for broth.
Speaker 1: I don't know why he's saying that, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like.
Speaker 2: Central is killing it and people like that he's helping it.
Speaker 2: He's really he's really helping the scene with what he's doing.
Speaker 2: Because now we're not saying Central seeing little Baby, so
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised no more.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh yeah, you don't got your heart rapper
Speaker 1: with our heart rapper, let's go. It doesn't feel like
Speaker 1: a shot.
Speaker 2: Back in the day a UK artist collabor with America
Speaker 2: Iyce collabor was like, bro, MAM's got something. Now it's
Speaker 2: just like okay, yeah, that's that's going to be a
Speaker 2: bang on that. We're starting to be seen as the
Speaker 2: equals that we are now, even though we're smaller, so
Speaker 2: we don't expect to have anything news that have. We're like,
Speaker 2: we're like the half the size of your smallest state
Speaker 2: compared to you, but we've got time to hair bro
Speaker 2: the UK. The UK's all right now Like that SHP
Speaker 2: you have to super soaken kind of shows that for
Speaker 2: me because that is so unapologetically London.
Speaker 1: It wasn't more down at all where it was the
Speaker 1: Globe show for weeks and America loved it, Africa loved it,
Speaker 1: Europe loved it. So I just think as long as that,
Speaker 1: I think the culture is are one now.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I think we're emerging mine so I think it can
Speaker 1: brace everyone.
Speaker 2: I know this is off the wall question, but you
Speaker 2: think Apple Beats has something to do with that. It
Speaker 2: might have played part one hundred percent because how big
Speaker 2: Burner and with kid is and people, the songs that
Speaker 2: every one's playing. I think the music is the same now.
Speaker 2: So you go to the club, you might end the
Speaker 2: club in Miami. You just might have some different songs
Speaker 2: that we listen to you. But the song that everyone's
Speaker 2: getting crazy, we go crazy, that.
Speaker 1: Song as well. That helps it all brings.
Speaker 2: Everything together, man, So I think I think that plays
Speaker 2: a big part. I'm not even just afro beas I
Speaker 2: think in general the music now we listen to is
Speaker 2: so and how global, like hip hop is so global.
Speaker 1: It's like it's it's just one big community that's taken
Speaker 1: over everything. To be honest with you, yeah, yeah, we're
Speaker 1: pop culture now. I always say that. I always say
Speaker 1: that we are the pop culture man. I'm honest. Man.
Speaker 1: That makes that makes me as well. Bro, Look I've
Speaker 1: got my flowers here. We shut it up again.
Speaker 2: Because one more time. Yeah, I got it, but I
Speaker 2: want to big them up one more time because we
Speaker 2: big enough. What you're doing, what you're doing stress when
Speaker 2: you stressed, what you're doing is unheard of. Like me again,
Speaker 2: I didn see top Boy, so I want to pick
Speaker 2: that up. But me looking at that and me seeing
Speaker 2: you unapologetically be who you are, like who this is?
Speaker 1: Like like like like I said, I had to rewind
Speaker 1: a couple of times, like I was like, what the fu?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, as it should have I used to have
Speaker 3: to do with there. So I was doing that and
Speaker 3: I was just like, you know what this ship is dope.
Speaker 3: It's really dope.
Speaker 4: It's creative, imagine, it's immersive because that's what Top Boy
Speaker 4: was and the wire is it immerses you into somewhere
Speaker 4: that you're not from.
Speaker 2: That and we rarely show live different parts of South
Speaker 2: London and that the energy, the parties, you see so
Speaker 2: much more than what you was normally see from a
Speaker 2: show like this, you know, and you ready see a
Speaker 2: new worlds if you're not from from the UK.
Speaker 3: And big up to Noos because I love once again man,
Speaker 3: thank you and your crew for coming out. Man. We
Speaker 3: appreciate that you want everybody to go out there watch
Speaker 3: super Cil.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I'm gonna watch super sotill
Speaker 1: from I'm gonna tweet you. I see you on Twitter. Yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you personally I'm a movie buff. If you
Speaker 2: know me, you know that I stay home all day.
Speaker 2: I watched movies. I stood for two days. I stood
Speaker 2: home and watched this ship, and I did not lose
Speaker 2: track of time. A new time was moving.
Speaker 1: And he hit me. Hear me. He's like, this is dope.
Speaker 2: I saw from someone saying I watched super so all night.
Speaker 2: I start working at six. It's commenty seven nothing.
Speaker 1: I was so yeah, yeah, I appreciate that. And this
Speaker 1: is how I know. Like, remember how I told you.
Speaker 3: I said black Panther, I said Bob Molly, and then
Speaker 3: I said Superstar.
Speaker 1: That's to be next to doors is amazing.
Speaker 2: The whole month that I watched Bob Molly, I swore
Speaker 2: was Jamaican.
Speaker 1: So now you're a superhero. He's you know what, You're
Speaker 1: gonna watch it?
Speaker 4: Do you know what?
Speaker 1: It's no excuse me, it's not Crystal Man.
Speaker 2: Yea, but thank you man.
Speaker 1: Anything else you want to say to the fans before
Speaker 1: you get about it, no mind, just.
Speaker 2: To echo what you said. If you ain't seen Super Sol,
Speaker 2: it's not too late. You can still watch it.
Speaker 1: Not if you like it.
Speaker 2: Spread the work. We're still trying to run up the
Speaker 2: numbers mine so big up money. Thanks to you for
Speaker 2: having me for my love, mine soul. Yeah, don't yes,
Speaker 2: thank you again one day. Yeah, you don't know, you
Speaker 2: don't know, you don't know, but you don't know that
Speaker 2: you know dyslexic.
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