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Speaker 1: So here there's a cold snap going on back in

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Speaker 2: Supposed to dip down to seventy one tonight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, bad bundleve.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, sweet Wirl, and welcome to the Nodongks podcast

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Speaker 3: on the Athletic Network. It's Monday, January sixth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: I'm Jay Skiet's hearing the comfy confines of the Classic Factory,

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Speaker 3: and next to me it's the bearded on I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: touch a hotboy trick Kirby Hey hey yo over Yonder

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Speaker 3: making the magic happen. Super producer JD. Hella, there he is,

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Speaker 3: and finally joining us from an undisclosed location outside, it's

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Speaker 3: Tass Mellis.

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Speaker 1: Who knows right, could be going on everybody. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of a lovely, crisp day today.

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Speaker 3: It's not too bad. Yeah right now, I think it's

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Speaker 3: like maybe twelve thirteen degrees celsius. That's like fifty five

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Speaker 1: But it's a classic Southern day where we might explore

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Speaker 1: all four seasons. Though it was pretty cold to start,

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Speaker 1: it might get down to thirty later on and gus

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Speaker 1: up to twenty miles of wind. Luckily, though, I've got

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Speaker 1: something very large beside me that's going to shield me

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Speaker 1: from everything. I don't know if you guys know where

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Speaker 1: If I find anything, I'll throw them on camera here.

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Speaker 1: But right now it's pretty quiet.

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Speaker 3: There are a lot of like stray cats in your location. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so we're hoping an animal does come up to you

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Speaker 3: and maybe same Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So Tass is outside all week long because he's paying

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Speaker 3: off his December pick them loss, and we maybe did

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Speaker 3: pick the right week because yeah, it's okay right now.

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Speaker 3: The rain did stop, but it's supposed to get sue

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm from Canada. I got my Canada mittens on.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, the meteorologists were correct. I was surprised ten

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Speaker 3: well before we get into NBA Weekend winners and losers.

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Speaker 3: On Friday night, the Miami Heat suspended Jimmy Butler for

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Speaker 3: seven games for multiple instances of conduct detrimental to the

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Speaker 3: team and announced they are now listening to offers. This

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Speaker 3: Well, the problem with those two teams, at least from reports,

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Speaker 3: the Athletic is saying the Warriors they don't really want

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Speaker 3: But what do you think herek.

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Speaker 2: My first thought, honestly, Skeets, was of Dwayne Deadman. He

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Speaker 2: Basically saying I want out. They said, no, we're not

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Speaker 3: There's so many factors at play here. One factor is

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Speaker 3: you touched on this, Okay, they're gonna move off Jimmy Butler.

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Speaker 3: You know they're done. He's upset with them. They're not

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Speaker 3: remain competitive. Now, I mean, the Heat are not at

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Speaker 1: Yes, And there really isn't a piece in the NBA

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Speaker 1: He's the number one guy on an Okay team. That

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Speaker 3: We usually do more winners than losers. TK, you gotta

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Speaker 2: The Kings are back like the bean baby, two wins

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Speaker 1: Well, it's it's definitely partly a new coach bump. I mean,

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Speaker 1: What about you?

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Speaker 3: Who do you have you go on? Player team? What's

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Speaker 1: I'm going Detroit basketball. I think this team is looking

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Speaker 3: seventeen and eighteen, which is like basically the same record

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Speaker 3: as a lot of teams like a game or two.

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Speaker 3: The Bucks, there, the Heat, the Hawks, the Pacers, the Pistons,

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Speaker 3: you know, your bulls maybe a little bit more back,

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Speaker 3: but man, yeah, a play in spot, just playing in

435
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Speaker 3: those games would be a huge win for the Detroit

436
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Speaker 3: Pistons this season. And I'm with Teste. I'm thinking it's

437
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Speaker 3: looking more and more likely that Kate Cunningham is a

438
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Speaker 3: very deserving All Star selection when we get to that eventually.

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Speaker 2: He's been great on He was awesome specifically against the Timberwolves.

440
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Speaker 2: My favorite part of his game is his post game.

441
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Speaker 2: He's the rare guy that was like a big guy

442
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Speaker 2: when he was younger and then eventually learned to handle

443
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Speaker 2: the ball, so he's got like a hook shot despite

444
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Speaker 2: being like a six to six point guard. It's usually

445
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Speaker 2: the other way around. They're like, oh, I was the

446
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Speaker 2: sick point guard and then suddenly I'm six foot ten

447
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Speaker 2: like Anthony Davis or something exactly. But Kate is the

448
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Speaker 2: reverse of it. So he's got a hook. It's pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: He was just dominant against the Timberwolves, getting any shot

450
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Speaker 2: he wanted for him or for himself. The Timberwolves tried

451
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Speaker 2: a lot of different defensive alignments, whether it be a

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Speaker 2: high drop or a lo it didn't matter if it

453
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Speaker 2: was a guy on him. Kaid would just be able

454
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Speaker 2: to body him get to the rim, and if he

455
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Speaker 2: was sagging off like Gobert likes to do the MIDI

456
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Speaker 2: was there so great stuff from Caid, Cunningham, the veteranship

457
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Speaker 2: that they're getting from Malik Beasley twenty three points, sixty

458
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Speaker 2: threes in this one. Tobias Harris sixteen points, a couple

459
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Speaker 2: of threes Tim Hardaway Junior he shot six of them.

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Speaker 2: He only made one, but at least he's shooting them.

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Speaker 2: You gotta respect it a little bit. The Pistons looked

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Speaker 2: like the better team against the timber Wolves, and that's

463
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Speaker 2: a team that went to the conference finals last year.

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Speaker 2: Obviously they've changed. We'll talk about him in the losers,

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Speaker 2: no doubt about it. But Pistons took advantage of a

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Speaker 2: poorly played game from Minnesota and basically ran him off

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Speaker 2: the court.

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Speaker 3: I thought, yeah, all right, So Kings and Pistons as

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Speaker 3: winners of the weekend. Maybe surprising to some of you.

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Speaker 3: This next team that I'm picking those as a winner

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Speaker 3: of the weekend shouldn't be, because they're maybe the best

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Speaker 3: team in the NBA. The Thunder, especially their second half defense,

473
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Speaker 3: gets a winner of the Weekend. Huge weekend for OKC believers,

474
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Speaker 3: right when it comes to their title chances. After they

475
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Speaker 3: took down two East title favorites, and it felt like

476
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Speaker 3: both games were the exact same. And it feels like

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Speaker 3: the last two weeks Thunder games have felt the exact

478
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Speaker 3: same because they have turned in to the Counting Crows team.

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Speaker 3: They're just hanging around. That's what they do in these games.

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Speaker 3: They just keep hanging around. You should put them to bed,

481
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Speaker 3: you should run up the score, and you can't, and

482
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Speaker 3: they just stay around, stay around, and then they go

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Speaker 3: on their run in the third or the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 3: On Friday night, the Thunder held the Knicks, the NBA's

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Speaker 3: third best offense, to forty one second half points. They

486
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Speaker 3: overcame a fourteen point deficit. They win by ten. And

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Speaker 3: the big hero in this game was Aaron Wiggins. He

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Speaker 3: was the not this guy guy for okay see that

489
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Speaker 3: night he scored fifteen of his nineteen points in the

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Speaker 3: final period. He could not miss, and Nicks went away

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Speaker 3: from going to Karl Anthony towns. I thought a little

492
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Speaker 3: bit too much, but they couldn't score. Okay see, he

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Speaker 3: gets that win dead On Sunday afternoon, some of you

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Speaker 3: joined us on playback. Okay, see again refused to sort

495
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Speaker 3: of like let go of the rope. They didn't completely cave.

496
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Speaker 3: They fell behind by double digits to the Boston Celtics,

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Speaker 3: and then they outscored nine to twelve in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 3: So they held the number two offense in the league

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Speaker 3: to just twenty seven total points. That sounds like a

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Speaker 3: typo in the second half. And then lou Dort was

501
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Speaker 3: the real hero in this one, you know, sort of

502
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Speaker 3: like the guy that couldn't hit a shot for most

503
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Speaker 3: of the game went nuts in the fourth quarter. He

504
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Speaker 3: scored eleven points. He made all three of his threes

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Speaker 3: in the fourth. So like similar wins, and this is

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Speaker 3: what they've done a lot over this now fifteen game

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Speaker 3: win streak. Cass, you want to give the air quotes

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Speaker 3: in your mittens again.

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Speaker 1: There because they of course JD can you can you

510
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Speaker 1: catch me rubbing the the buggers off my mustache here

511
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Speaker 1: because it was getting a little.

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Speaker 3: A little chillier hair. Yeah, yeah, because I mean I

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Speaker 3: put that in air quotes because it's so fifteenth straight win.

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Speaker 3: Everybody knows they lost the NBA Cup Final, but it

515
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Speaker 3: doesn't count against their team records. So it's fifteen straight

516
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Speaker 3: regular season wins. But man, the defense tray just like

517
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Speaker 3: no team puts more pressure on the ball than they do.

518
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Speaker 3: They're obviously the youngest, probably the most athletic team in

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Speaker 3: the league, and they're so deep that they just keep

520
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Speaker 3: coming in waves. And I think they just like tie

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Speaker 3: your teams out. The Knicks especially, was that case. Yes,

522
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Speaker 3: Now the Knicks lean into playing their main guys a

523
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Speaker 3: lot of minutes they ran out of gas, whereas did

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Speaker 3: the wave of Thunder defensive players missing Caruso by the way,

525
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Speaker 3: missing chet Holmgeren by the way, which was really scary

526
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Speaker 3: for the league. They just keep coming, coming and coming,

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Speaker 3: and then those turnovers turn into the easy points. And

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Speaker 3: some similarities happened in the Celtics game too.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right. The Celtics made eight shots and had

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Speaker 2: ten turnovers in the second half of this one, and

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Speaker 2: they looked great in the first half. But I figured

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Speaker 2: out when Mark Dagnault squints so much, the guy is observant.

533
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Speaker 2: He never loses a coach's challenge, and he makes incredible adjustments.

534
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Speaker 2: At halftime, he gets in there looking at the tape,

535
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Speaker 2: getting real close in there, and he says no, no,

536
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Speaker 2: what we gave up way too many layups in the

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Speaker 2: second quarter. Twelve or fourteen from two point range were

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Speaker 2: the Celtics, and it felt like they would get a

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Speaker 2: switch dump it into Porzingis. They would even dump it

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Speaker 2: into Luke Cornett sometimes Horford was doing stuff. In the

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Speaker 2: second half, those easy dump ins just weren't there for Boston.

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Speaker 2: The Thunder were switching, but they were throwing a little

543
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Speaker 2: bit more help inside, and the Celtics were then having

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Speaker 2: to play from outside in their driving kick. Game just

545
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Speaker 2: wasn't the same. I guess if I'm a Celtics fan,

546
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Speaker 2: I'm saying we're not shooting that bad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was two point.

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Speaker 2: Thirty in the afternoon that the game happened, so you

549
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Speaker 2: can slough it off even though they've been struggling right now.

550
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Speaker 2: But incredible stuff from the Thunder. I heard Tim mcmaon

551
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Speaker 2: say on the Hoop Collective today that the Thunder are

552
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Speaker 2: twenty seven and two as long as they have a

553
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Speaker 2: healthy seven footer. It was eight and one with chat

554
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Speaker 2: Holme Grin and then they're whatever the other math says.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, nineteen and one. I guess with

556
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Speaker 2: Isaiah Hartenstein, they look awesome. They can force a turnover

557
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Speaker 2: against anybody, and that's huge because they're not necessarily the

558
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Speaker 2: greatest half court offensive team, but they are probably the

559
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Speaker 2: best at turning defensed offense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Tash, what did you see from OKC this weekend? Here?

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Speaker 1: Well, I just have to note Shay Gilders Alexander's monstrous

562
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Speaker 1: block in the fourth court because this game was huge,

563
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Speaker 1: super tech. It was extremely tight, but that block on

564
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Speaker 1: Jason Tatum as it chase down and then he gets

565
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Speaker 1: the score at the other end was massive. And how

566
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Speaker 1: can you not get up to play for your leader

567
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Speaker 1: if he as a guard from the outside, he gets

568
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Speaker 1: back and blocks a shot like that is doing that

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Speaker 1: type of thing. Mantra staff. You mentioned the wins against

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Speaker 1: the Knicks and against Boston. They play on Cleveland on

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Speaker 1: Wednesday that the league has flexed so it's on National.

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Speaker 3: Dav Both teams arrested too, they don't play until Wednesday night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, both monstrous records, both the top their conferences

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Speaker 1: and ready to go. Can't wait to watch that one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. The Cavs have a ten game win streak going

576
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Speaker 3: right now, and they are winning every game by double digits.

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Speaker 3: They've outscored their opponents by an average of sixteen point

578
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Speaker 3: six points per game over this ten game win streak.

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Speaker 3: So here come the Thunder with their fifteen game win streak.

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Speaker 3: And like I said, the Thunders took down the number

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Speaker 3: three best offense in the league in the Knicks, the

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Speaker 3: number two best offense in the Celtics. And now we'll

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Speaker 3: take on the Cleveland Cavaliers who have the number one

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Speaker 3: best offense. So that is must see TV there on

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Speaker 3: Wednesday night. Let's keep it going though another round of

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Speaker 3: weekend winners. And what a weekend event.

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Speaker 1: It was a great weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because the Epic Duelsman is logged on to give

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Speaker 2: a winner to Jokic versus Wemby, two classic matchups this weekend,

590
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Speaker 2: and they both kind of vested each other Friday in Denver,

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Speaker 2: Friday in Denver in Denver. On Friday, Nikola jokicch forty

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Speaker 2: one points on thirty six shots, eighteen rebounds, nine assists,

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Speaker 2: two steals, bested by Wemby thirty five points, eighteen rebounds,

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Speaker 2: four assists, a steal and two blocks. Made so many

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Speaker 2: plays down the stretch, including his steel, which I was

596
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Speaker 2: surprised he got credit for the steal on this one

597
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Speaker 2: because Jokic posts them up, nuggets are down one. He's

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Speaker 2: looking for the son board shuffle and Wenby was going

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Speaker 2: to block it. Yeah, he was gonna send it back

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Speaker 2: in his face. So Jokic tries to throw a cross

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Speaker 2: court pass. I think it was Vicel who ended up

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Speaker 2: intercepting it. Maybe Wemby tipped it. I thought the show

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Speaker 2: went down as a block. Nonetheless, incredible play from that guy.

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Speaker 2: Then Saturday in San Antonio. A day later, they flew

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Speaker 2: from Denver to San Antonio to play the same game.

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Speaker 2: Very weird. Wemby went for twenty points and twenty three rebounds.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of roast b three assists, a steal in,

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Speaker 2: four blocks. Jokic forty six points on thirty five shots,

609
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Speaker 2: nine rebounds, ten assists, two steals, two blocks. One it

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Speaker 2: for him in overtime after missing the game winner at

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Speaker 2: the end of regulation, but I think he scored nine

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Speaker 2: in ot put the team on his back. NBA's YouTube

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Speaker 2: has a thirteen minute Jokic and Wemby battle it out video.

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Speaker 2: I made my kids watch it today because this was

615
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: a torture moment. This is like when Lebron James and Luka.

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Speaker 2: Doncic played in the first couple of years of Luca's career,

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Speaker 2: and you're like, all right, Lebron, you're the best at

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Speaker 2: what you do, and Luka plays like you and he's

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Speaker 2: doing the next thing. That's what's happening here because Jokic

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Speaker 2: is the best player in the league and Wemby is

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Speaker 2: the next best player in the league. They're both centers.

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Speaker 2: So far, they've played six times in their career. Jokic

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Speaker 2: just scored thirty nine or more four times. He actually

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Speaker 2: has to work at it. You'll never see more pump

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Speaker 2: fakes from Yokic than playing against Wemby. But he's averaging

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Speaker 2: thirty seven eleven and nine, four and two. Wemby, for

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Speaker 2: his part, twenty five fifteen boards, four assists, two steals

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Speaker 2: in four blocks in these matchups. Zach Harper had a

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Speaker 2: great ride up about Wemby. He's played one hundred games,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and one now, including the Saturday game. Turned

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Speaker 2: twenty one years old on Saturday. Five players had more

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Speaker 2: points in their first hundred games, nine players had more rebounds,

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Speaker 2: two players had more blocks, one center had more assists,

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Speaker 2: and nine players had more three pointers, not Steph Curry,

635
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Speaker 2: not Klay Thompson. They didn't have more threes than Victor Webbenyama,

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Speaker 2: but other guys.

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Speaker 3: Did you know what this Wm and Yama leveling up

638
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Speaker 3: here very quickly? It adds actually an interesting wrinkle when

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Speaker 3: you think about it to this trade deadline and Jimmy

640
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Speaker 3: Butler trade rumors and Aaron Fox trade rumors and maybe

641
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Speaker 3: any other player of note that could like move the

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Speaker 3: needle for a contending team. My point being like, there

643
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 3: could be a small window here, legit small window for

644
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 3: some of these other teams before it's Wemby time and

645
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 3: has the right team around him and they're the ones

646
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 3: always competing for championships. That's what it feels like.

647
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Speaker 1: That's what it feels like, like the guy he just beat, Yeah,

648
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: we right, right.

649
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 3: Exactly, but that was awesome. The Yokichrist Wemby. No, neither

650
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 3: of those games were on national television. I believe, right

651
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 3: was there? I think those are league past games, both them.

652
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 3: I know it's Friday. People hate centers, man, that's it, right, Yeah, yeah,

653
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:07,959
Speaker 3: they will buy their shoes and they won't watch their

654
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 3: games apparently. But tacity thoughts on yok Wemby.

655
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a few things I liked from these games.

656
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: In the first game, Wemby had a ball pushed up

657
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: ahead of everybody. He got the ball and he pumped

658
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: so he could get Russell Westbrook to jump, and Russell

659
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: Westbrook did jump and fouled him, and Wenby wouldn't talk

660
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: to him after he saw Russ's face. Come, what are

661
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: you saying to me? Man? I wish I wish we

662
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: could hear what Wenby did say to us. But it

663
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: was odd because Wenby got what he wanted, he got

664
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Speaker 1: a foul, but he didn't like the way Russ fouled him.

665
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Speaker 1: I guess the weird thing as Trey mentioned that they

666
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: played in two different cities, I was confused by that.

667
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: I had to look at the floor multiple times. But

668
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: I also had to look at the Spurs City edition jerseys.

669
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: I love those blues. That baby blue. It's not a

670
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: baby blue. I don't know what they've literally called it.

671
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm not throwing out my air quotes again, but what

672
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Speaker 1: is that blue? It's such a it's an awesome look.

673
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, just two great teams going at it. The

674
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: Nuggets are so interesting, and that Jamal Murray didn't look

675
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: like Jamal Murray and part of these games, he hasn't

676
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: looked like himself. So what are the Nuggets going to do?

677
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: Are they going to try and push for somebody, anybody

678
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: to help them. But it again with the Nuggets and

679
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: now with this new CBA, you got to trade a

680
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: big contract back to go get a big player, and

681
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: so somebody like Michael Porter would probably be the guy.

682
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: But at the same time, these trades just don't seem

683
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: like they're going to happen because that's a lot of

684
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Speaker 1: money to take back. It's a lot of money to

685
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Speaker 1: pay in luxury a tax. So that's the questionable part

686
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: here with the Nuggets, we're talking about Jokic in his

687
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: freakin prime. He looks amazing. Great piece on the Athletic

688
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: about how he's changed his shot form and how he's

689
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: brought it closer to his body and that's why he'shooting

690
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: nearly fifty percent from three. This guy is a better

691
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: three point shooter, and I don't know if he can

692
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Speaker 1: do it in the playoffs with the guys around him.

693
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Speaker 3: Task let's go to you here for your next and

694
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 3: final winner of the weekend.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to the Los Angeles Clippers because Kawhi Landard

696
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: is back. I know people immediately say, Okay, when's he

697
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: getting injured? Fair? There's a line out there in Vegas.

698
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: You can bet on the next game that Kawhi Leonard

699
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: is going to miss because he gets injured. Go bet

700
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: are you? It's not on our friends at bet Jury.

701
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: It's kind of hard to find, but go do it

702
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: if you want. But I will say this about Kawhi.

703
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: This is the first time that he set out nearly

704
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: half the season to start the season to get his

705
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: knees ready. And I'm not a medicine expert, but maybe

706
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: the medical doctor. Yeah, well, the medical staff in Los

707
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: Angeles no more than I do. And they have obviously

708
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: been working with him extremely slowly, but they've been working

709
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: him behind the scenes because he has been practicing for

710
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: a long period of time. And you could see it

711
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: in the first two minutes of this game. He'd had

712
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: a tough catch on a three point shot and then

713
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: he had Zacharysache right in his face against the Atlanta

714
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,239
Speaker 1: Hawks on Saturday and still Qui lined it up and

715
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: hit that shot, and his teammates said, yeah, he's been

716
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: doing that for a month in practice, So this is

717
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: different for Kawhi missing thirty four games to start this

718
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: season and hopefully going to get this team going on

719
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Speaker 1: the offensive end because they're so good defensively, they're a

720
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Speaker 1: top five defense now, and to bring back Kawhi Leonard,

721
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: a two time defensive player of the Year. So that's

722
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Speaker 1: the interesting thing to me. I'm all in. I'm all

723
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: in on this Clippers team at least challenging for the

724
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: top with the way they look, because if you look

725
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: at their defense, which is obviously ridiculously good led by

726
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: Jeff fan Gundy, sometimes you forget that he's there now,

727
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: he's their defensive coordinator. A great line in the Athletic

728
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: article about Kawhi was talking to Jeff fan Gundy, Hey,

729
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: what are we doing on defense? Jeff fan Gundy said,

730
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: no one watches this shit more than me. Now in

731
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Speaker 1: the in the article, the shit is bleeped out, but

732
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Speaker 1: I have to include becau Jeff fan got. He says,

733
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: no one watched them more. I got I know what

734
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: we're doing. We're top five defense here. Now the offense,

735
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: it's him Harden Norman Powell starting, and then it's gonna

736
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: be probably Derrek Jones Junior in Viatza Zubats, although they

737
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: started Chris Dunn over Derek Jones Junior on Saturday. You

738
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Speaker 1: look at that, you squint, and Terrence Mann came back

739
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: after a month five for five beautiful past to batoomb

740
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: so man Batoom, Kevin Porter junior, one of Derek Jones junior,

741
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: Chris Dunn coming off the bench. I mean that looks

742
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: like a very very very good team obviously on paper.

743
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: Because will Kawhi be able to play? I don't know,

744
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 1: But again I am not a medicine man, so who knows?

745
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 1: Who knows this this team? The medical field there for

746
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Scrippers maybe knows better than we do.

747
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: Obviously they're trying to get Kawhi going extremely slowly in

748
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: a different way, and he's not gonna sit anymore in

749
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: terms of, you know, these long periods of play anyway,

750
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: it's really uh hey, we'll see what happens in a

751
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: couple months with this team. But they look so so

752
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: good twenty and fifteen to start this season over expectations,

753
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: definitely better than anybody expected. They're going to have a

754
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: winning record for the fourteenth season in a row, a

755
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: very odd stat but they lead the league and the

756
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: most consecutive winning seasons, so we'll see them in the

757
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: playoffs if Kawhi plays. You look at that lineup that

758
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: I mentioned. Norman Powell's got to be a freaking All

759
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: Star the way he's playing along with Harden. I mean,

760
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: the lineup just checks all the boxes.

761
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 3: Only nineteen minutes from Kawhi in his return. But what

762
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 3: did you see from him tk?

763
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: I think he looked skinny. That was the main thing

764
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 2: that stuck out to me was at the start of

765
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 2: the twenty three to twenty four season. Last year, Kawhi

766
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 2: looks tumongous. He played a lot of games. He did

767
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: eventually go down with an injury, but the thing that

768
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: stuck out to me was he looked much skinnier, And

769
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 2: I wonder if that's a true I'm just seeing it.

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00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: I've seen him save him a while for such a

771
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: long time, or did he decide to slim down a

772
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: little bit to save his knees since those have been

773
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 2: a problem for the past six seasons or whatever it's been.

774
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: But he's supposed to play tonight. That's good. Yeah, it's

775
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: like a day to day thing. I feel like with

776
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard that's how it was in the playoffs. So

777
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 2: the fact that their five games over five hundred, I

778
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 2: think is super impressive. A lot of credit goes to

779
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: Harden Powell and ty Lou Zubats, I think has to

780
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: be in the mix as well for a guy who's

781
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: really driving their winning there. But now, if Kwai is

782
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 2: able to stay healthy and shake the rust off, get

783
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 2: back to playing like a top ten guy like he

784
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: always is anytime he's on the court, he looks like

785
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 2: one of the best players. So I assume that'll be

786
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: the case. They've got a chance. I'm with you, task,

787
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 2: I think they could at least be a top sixteen.

788
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 3: All right, I'll go to our final winner of the

789
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Speaker 3: weekend before we pivot to losers. On Friday night, CJ

790
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 3: McCollum matched his career high with fifty points to lead

791
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 3: the Pelicans to a one thirty two one twenty victory

792
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 3: over the Zards. They snapped an eleven game losing streak.

793
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 3: McCollum was lights out. He went eighteen to twenty seven

794
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 3: from the field. He hit ten threes. It was a

795
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Speaker 3: second time in CJ's career that he ordered a fifty

796
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 3: burger and ate that thirteenth time if you count the playoffs,

797
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 3: that CJ McCollum has eclipsed forty points in a game too,

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00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: So it's got quite a number of those games. But

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Speaker 3: here's the fun part about this host. CJ McCollum Night.

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Speaker 3: Friday Night was January third, and for whatever reason, be

801
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 3: it the stars, the moon, the tides, I don't know, Okay,

802
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 3: January third is forgetting buckets, okay. January third, twenty twenty one,

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00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 3: Steph Curry dropped a career high sixty two points in

804
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 3: a win. The next year, January third, twenty twenty two,

805
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 3: Trey Young scores a career high fifty six points. The

806
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 3: next year, January third, twenty twenty three, Jannis goes for

807
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 3: a season high fifty five points, still a huge number.

808
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,959
Speaker 3: And then the next year January third, twenty twenty three,

809
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 3: Pallo Bancaro scored a then career high forty three points.

810
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 3: He has since done a fifty burger earlier this year.

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Speaker 3: That's four straight years and now five with CJ McCollum

812
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 3: going for fifty points. What is it about January third?

813
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 3: It's really weird that we have all of these career highs,

814
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 3: which CJ. McCollum tied, by the way, with that fifty

815
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 3: point game.

816
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 2: And who can forget Bernard King going for fifty and

817
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty one, Spencer Haywood going for fifty one and

818
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 2: seventy three, and Wilt Chamberlain going for fifty three and

819
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty five. I mean, January third, you shake off

820
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 2: the hangover, you're ready to play. I think that's it.

821
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: It's like January first, I'm not doing anything. Yeah, of course,

822
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 2: long night.

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00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 3: January second, Oh, you're groggy.

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00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get it ramped up. It's the start of

825
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: the new year. Let's do something special. You go out

826
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Speaker 2: and score fifty plus points.

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Speaker 3: New year, knew me for those guys. January third, So CJ. McCollum,

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00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 3: what a game task going for fifty again.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of scoring happening in the National Basketball Association.

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00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: Bryce Sensiba of the Utah Jazz had a thirty plus

831
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: then twenty seven in Florida. They won in Orlando and

832
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: in Miami, where Bryce Sensiba is from. Not a coincidence,

833
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: I don't think. But yes, you the January third, who knows.

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Speaker 3: What January for it? All right, let's go to losers

835
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Speaker 3: of the NBA Weekend. We've teased this one a bunch

836
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 3: of times. Trey, who you got here?

837
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: It's the Timberwolves lost three straight, six of their last nine,

838
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: and they're just finding too many ways to lose right now.

839
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: We didn't talk about it much on the drop, but

840
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 2: the Timberwolves lost to the Celtics on Thursday. The big

841
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: story from this one is the Anthony Edwards only had

842
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 2: fifteen points on sixteen shots, and then in his postgame

843
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: press conference he was complaining about getting doubled and saying, yeah,

844
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep passing the ball, but man, I don't

845
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: want to pass the ball on twenty three, one of

846
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: my favorite he's like, god, man, I don't want to

847
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: do that. He's on Devin Booker playing against joke. Nobody

848
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: wants to get double team. Whether there's twenty three immediately.

849
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 3: What I thought the Devin Booker summer runs, or he's

850
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 3: getting upset and he's getting.

851
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 2: Double I guess it was a good. Best part. It's like, yeah,

852
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 2: it was a good brand of basketball, but I don't

853
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 2: like it. Yeah it was working, it didn't work. They

854
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: lost Saturday though, against Detroit. Anthony Edwards he got his

855
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: shots up thirty one shots, scored a career high fifty

856
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 2: three points just to assist to six turnovers. But the

857
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 2: Timberwolves still lost because they cannot get everyone playing well

858
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 2: at the same time. In the first half, it was

859
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: the bench plus Julius Randall and Mike Conley, gave up

860
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: a huge run to start the second quarter, the starters

861
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: battle back, get it close, and then to start the

862
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 2: third quarter, the starters give up a fourteen to two run,

863
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 2: and that's just kind of been the story for the Timberwolves.

864
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 2: A complete lack of consistency from gaiden game to game,

865
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 2: first quarter effort, I think is a problem. Task mentioned

866
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: Caid got a dunk right away in the first game,

867
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: or in the first quarter against the Timberwolves. They got

868
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 2: an alley up to Usar Thompson in the second minute

869
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 2: of the game. That was ridiculous to see that happen.

870
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 2: You look at what the team is right now. Everybody

871
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 2: has eyes on Julius Randall and Dante Di Vincenzo, But

872
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: I think it's the guys who were there previously who

873
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 2: are the problem. Mike Conley, it might be over he's

874
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: averaging eight points of games shooting thirty five percent from

875
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 2: the field, thirty six from three. Jayden McDaniels is a

876
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 2: three and D player who can't do it on either

877
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: end right now thirty one percent from three, and he

878
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 2: got torched by Caid Cunningham in this one. Just look

879
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: too skinny against Caid quite honestly. The replacements would be

880
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: for Conley, a rocky point guard, and Rob Dillingham or

881
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 2: Dante di Vincenzo, who's not a point guard. The McDaniels

882
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: replacements would be Arren Shannon Junior, an old rookie, Josh

883
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: may Not, an old development guy, or a smaller guy

884
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: like Nikhil Alexander Walker who then makes their team smaller.

885
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: And you had Chris Finch complaining about getting crushed on

886
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 2: the boards despite having Gobart who keeps getting benched in

887
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: these games. It's just hard to see where the improvement

888
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 2: is because most of the players are just having down years. Comparatively,

889
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 2: Go Bear's been worse this season. NOAs Reed is just fine,

890
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: shooting like thirty seven percent from three, which isn't forty

891
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,479
Speaker 2: one percent. That's just average Mike Conley, like I says, bad,

892
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: Jaden McDaniels or Jayalen McDaniel. Sorry, he's not been very

893
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: good either. It's like they're running out of guys. They

894
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: have nothing left to trade, So maybe this is just

895
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: a down season for Minnesota. They let Randall walk in

896
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: the offseason and they're able to have a little bit

897
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: more flexibility going forward to really reorient the team around

898
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards. That's not what you want to hear after

899
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 2: going to the Western Conference finals. No, but that might

900
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:14,919
Speaker 2: be the case.

901
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're making a poll, Tass, and you're including

902
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 3: three or four teams who's had the most disappointing year

903
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 3: as now we've hit twenty twenty five, you're including the

904
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 3: Timberwolves at just five hundred and a couple other teams

905
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 3: of course come to mind. I know one that you're

906
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 3: going to talk about here in the Phoenix Suns. But

907
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 3: it's not great and it's not inspiring, and like TK

908
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 3: just took us through. It seems to be like, what

909
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 3: are the answers to this outside of doing the old

910
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 3: fire year coach and get the new coach bump in here,

911
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 3: which I do I do not think they're going to

912
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 3: do with Chris Finch. But what do you think, Tass?

913
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's odd with them because they are five hundred.

914
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: They do have good performances. Like the Boston game was

915
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: a good effort. The Okay SA game was a good

916
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 1: effort thing. You see what they do against the Detroit Pistons.

917
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: We're coming on a back to back and they got

918
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: the ball absolutely run down their throat by the Pistons,

919
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: who are just a fun watch. That's what made it

920
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 1: a f game to watch. But from the wolf side

921
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 1: it was painful. I think the only thing you can

922
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: do is Dante DiVincenzo inserted over by Conley. I know

923
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: it's odd because he isn't a traditional point guard, but

924
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: Mike Conley at this point, at thirty seven years of age,

925
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: it might be time. He just doesn't look like himself. Well,

926
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: Devincenzo does sort of look like at point guard running

927
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: the second unit at times, and he'll give Anthony Edwards

928
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: what he wants. In a way, Anthony Edwards just wants

929
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: to be able to drive by his guy and go

930
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: to the hoop. Dante Devincenzo will attract the defense because

931
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: he's such a good three point shooter and he gets

932
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: after it defensively, so I think it works with Devin

933
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: Cenzo because Anthony Edwards is playing a lot of point

934
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: guard just because of his game. So I think that's

935
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: the way to do things, although it's just hard to

936
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: say because of game to game, they just don't see

937
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: him on the same page. They'll get a good effort

938
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: from some guys and good effort from Randall at times,

939
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 1: who's having a really good season shoot forty four percent

940
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: for three and the numbers are great, But then on

941
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: the defensive end, he just won't do a lot. It

942
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 1: seems like they just don't have a locker room that's

943
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: all together at this point.

944
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean, you don't want to like over

945
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 3: react to a three game losing streak when you lost

946
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 3: to OKC and you lost to the Celtics and then

947
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 3: you lost to the red hot Pistons, Like you don't

948
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 3: want to go crazy about that. But yeah, it's not

949
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 3: inspiring this minnesot team. And then like you add to that,

950
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 3: you get these Anthony Edwards quotes that some people I

951
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 3: think run with. And he's very talkative and he shares

952
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 3: his opinions and maybe talks a little too much at

953
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: time and gets himselves in trouble. He's really real. I mean,

954
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 3: he just says what he's thinking. Again, that's refreshing for us.

955
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 3: But people then can take it and run with it

956
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 3: in a million different directions. But we'll see if you

957
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 3: can tell he's frustrated. Though, he's very frustrated.

958
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: The guy never dunks anymore. We haven't had a good

959
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards dunk yet this year. I like, not that

960
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 2: I can think, because there's always guys there in the way.

961
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, true, and I mean he obviously the three pointer

962
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 3: was falling very swallowing a lot early in the season

963
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 3: for him, and he was taking a whole bunch of them.

964
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 3: I know it's ticked down a little bit. But they

965
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 3: play the Clippers next here tonight. Actually, yeah, Wolves and Clippers.

966
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: All right, Tess, who's your loser the weekend?

967
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: It's got to be the Phoenix Suns. They've lost four

968
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: in a row, seven of eight, eleven of thirteen, and

969
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: their defense just looked very bad against the Indiana Pacers

970
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: on Saturday, and there was no excuse for it. They're rested,

971
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 1: they had three days off, and in the third core

972
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 1: of the Pacers, who are playing extremely well right now,

973
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: just random down forty points for the Pacers in that

974
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: third quarter. Now, the Suns are, you know, one of

975
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 1: the worst teams in the NBA in terms of defense.

976
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: It's far worse than it was last season. This is

977
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: the second season that they're all together, and somehow their

978
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: defense isn't working. The offense has been okay, but now

979
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: just because of the lack of chemistry, apparently, according to

980
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: a Chris Haynes report, they're putting use of Nurkic and

981
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: Bradley Beal to the bench tonight because things aren't working

982
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 1: all that well. It's just an odd, odd situation. They're

983
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: going to the bench and Mason Plumb Lee Ryan Dunn

984
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 1: are starting guys who started on Saturday because Tyas Jones

985
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 1: was already out and the use of Nurkic was also

986
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: out because of a suspension. But Nurk's supposed to come back.

987
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: Nothing makes sense in Phoenix, and this might be a

988
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 1: situation where mattish Bia says, all right, let's do it.

989
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 1: Let's go get Bradley Beal, who again has no trade class.

990
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: It may not be traded at all, but mattish Bia

991
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: and the way he went and got Kevin Durant demanded

992
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: that it happened. Could try and make a Bradley Beal

993
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 1: get out of here, a type of deal for Jimmy

994
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: Butler if it's at all possible, and now there are

995
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: trades here, I'm looking at him now. Sam Besini threw

996
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: the Heat, get Bradley Beal for Jimmy Butler and Josh

997
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: Richardson type of deal. Again, Bill has a no trade class.

998
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: He just may not go. And I'm not exactly sure

999
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: why the Heat would do that, considering how much money

1000
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: Bradley bel has on for multiple years and he ain't

1001
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: playing all the time, so it'd be very difficult for

1002
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 1: me to see that. So I kept going into trade

1003
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: machine on Sports Track, and I looked at a four

1004
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: team deal involving the Nets, Pistons, Heat and Suns that

1005
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: would get Beal out of Phoenix and get Jimmy Butler there,

1006
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: while Ben Simmons would go to the Heat basically as

1007
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: an expiring deal because Ben Simmons isn't paid beyond the summer,

1008
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: and to me, that seems to be where the My

1009
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: Heat may end up. They may end up just being

1010
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,919
Speaker 1: in a situation where okay, we're almost in a way

1011
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,479
Speaker 1: just cutting Jimmy Butler because for the next few months

1012
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: they'd have somebody like Ben Simmons playing for them, but

1013
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: he'd be gone at the end of the season, or

1014
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: at least he'd be a free agent. It's an odd

1015
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 1: situation in Phoenix, especially just seeing the booker Beal Durant

1016
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: played on Saturday, and it's so hard to see them

1017
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: get pumbled. They got pumbled by the Indiana Pacers again

1018
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: had days off. Now, like we just mentioned about the

1019
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: Minnesota Timberwolves, the Suns are losing to a lot of

1020
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: good teams, but in this situation, it just highlights that

1021
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: their defense ain't all that great period. I mean, their

1022
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: defense again has dropped off since last season. Their offense

1023
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: is fine, but the use of Nurkic thing who doesn't

1024
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: play all the time, the Bradley Beial thing who doesn't

1025
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: play all the time. They mean, they really have to

1026
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: sort of be on the same page to do a

1027
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: little bit more for their lack of defense, and that

1028
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 1: ain't happening with these guys.

1029
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've just like they're running out of excuses, yes,

1030
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: because they just always have an excuse of like why

1031
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 3: they're struggling and not living up to expectations. You know, Okay,

1032
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 3: maybe it was the coach well, okay, they fired Vogel,

1033
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 3: Bludenholder comes in. Yeah, nothing's really changed, so it's not that. Oh,

1034
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 3: none of our guys ever played together. Are Big Three.

1035
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 3: They're never out there together. Okay, now they are. We're

1036
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 3: still losing. You know, you start just you know, it

1037
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 3: was the whole thing. Well, when Durant was there, we

1038
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 3: win and then okay he comes back, they're not. You know,

1039
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 3: it's like they've lost seven to last dight. So they're

1040
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 3: running out of excuses here. There's like eighty percent of

1041
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 3: their payroll is four guys. It's Durant, it's Booker, it's Biel,

1042
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 3: it's Nurkic. Now two of those guys are apparently gonna

1043
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 3: come off the bench. I mean, kudos to Boonholdzer for

1044
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 3: at least like you gotta try something, you got to

1045
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 3: switch it up a little bit. So maybe it works

1046
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 3: with Dunham Plumbley, but it's not good and they are

1047
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 3: definitely on the short list of most disappointing teams this year. Wolves, Sons,

1048
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 3: Kings find a four. I mean, well, Pelicans at least

1049
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 3: injuries somewhat of an excuse. These teams are running out excuse.

1050
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,720
Speaker 2: Measers are turning around. Yeah, I mean a lot of people.

1051
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 2: I was Sons over because I watched the Olympics. I

1052
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: thought it was awesome. Guess what, that's FIBA basketball. Doesn't matter. Also,

1053
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 2: the team was stacked. The Son's team is not a

1054
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: lot of people had Mike Budenholzer Coach of the Year.

1055
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 2: They're worse on offense and worse on dfs. He probably

1056
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 2: ain't gonna do it use of Nurkic. I think they

1057
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 2: just got lucky last year. Nurkic played seventy six games

1058
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: of pretty high level basketball. He was good last year,

1059
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 2: and consequently their defense was fine. Now he's already missed

1060
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 2: ten games and looks like a shell of himself on

1061
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 2: the court, so probably long overdue that Plumbley is going

1062
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 2: to be getting the start for him. I don't know

1063
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: if it really changes their fortunes all that much. It's

1064
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 2: not like Plumbley is Rudy Gober prime Rudy Gober out there,

1065
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 2: so we'll see. I do like the conspiracy theory that

1066
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 2: they're benching Bradley Beal so that he'll get so upset

1067
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 2: with the team that he'll waive his no trade clause,

1068
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 2: because that would be the biggest win the Sons could

1069
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: get right now is moving off the Beal deal because

1070
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 2: he's not a needle mover for this team. He plays

1071
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: the same position as their two best guys ball handlers,

1072
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: so he's probably best suited for a Brooklyn team where

1073
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 2: he could go lead the league in scoring.

1074
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 3: Yes, I don't believe it's going to be to the

1075
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 3: Miami Heat, for sure. I believe those reports saying we

1076
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 3: don't want Bradley Beial. Man, We're like, we got Tyler Herro.

1077
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 3: We got a better version, younger version, you know, better

1078
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 3: contract version of Bradley Beal. We're fine. But yeah, does

1079
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 3: he get routed to a third or fourth team? I

1080
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 3: think it's very possible. We'll see. But man, there, you're

1081
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 3: right all those things he said. I had Budenholzer for

1082
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 3: Coach of the Year. I was in on the Suns

1083
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 3: like rebounding this year because of him and impressing. But

1084
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 3: they're just bad and they're obviously so top And we'll

1085
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,280
Speaker 3: see if this switch does anything. Final loser of the Weekend,

1086
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give it to Bam out of bio. All right,

1087
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 3: to go full circle here back to the Heat, because

1088
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 3: the last thing you want to happen amidst trade rumors

1089
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 3: is for your sort of second best guy when your

1090
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 3: guy's been suspended in Jimmy Butler, your other all NBA guy,

1091
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 3: your other all star, to put up a dud and

1092
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 3: for your team to get absolutely shellacked at home. And

1093
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 3: that's what happened. We brought it up a couple times here.

1094
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 3: The Heat lost on Saturday night to the Utah Jazz

1095
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 3: Bryce Sensaba, scoring thirty four points. They got beat by

1096
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 3: thirty six, sixth largest home loss and Heat history. So

1097
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 3: this was that bad. I saw Brendan Tobin on Twitter

1098
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 3: or tweet suspend the Heat for conduct detrimental to the

1099
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 3: fan base. Fair fair seven game suspension for the entire team.

1100
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 3: But the worst part was that no show from Bam

1101
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 3: out of bio. He went over six from the floor

1102
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 3: in this game. They got outscored by twenty four points

1103
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 3: in his minutes. His season averages are they are bottom

1104
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 3: of the barrel. Now they're sixteen point one points per game.

1105
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 3: He's shooting forty five point six percent. Those are some

1106
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 3: Nurkic like numbers, Like I think those two guys as

1107
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 3: centers are big so like the worst in the league

1108
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 3: in terms of like number of field goals to that

1109
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 3: percentage forty five point six. That's not bad for a guard.

1110
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 3: That's not good for your big man. Shocking regression and

1111
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 3: not again, when you have all these trade rumors going around,

1112
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 3: you don't want your second best guy or your third

1113
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 3: bisk guy whatever. Wherever you put Hero, He's played better,

1114
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 3: for sure. That's rough. So I don't know what's going

1115
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 3: on with Bam.

1116
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 2: He doesn't have much of an offensive game right now.

1117
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 2: There's no go to move that he has. There's nothing

1118
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 2: that you would point at and say this is really

1119
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: Bam out of bio strength. He's a good ball mover,

1120
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: I think, you know, kind of like Horford was for

1121
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 2: the Hawks back in the day. He does have a

1122
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 2: decent mid range. I always like it when he grabs

1123
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 2: and goes brings the ball up the court. But it

1124
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 2: doesn't seem like he's very confident offensively right here. And

1125
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 2: they need him to be a good offensive player because

1126
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 2: outside of Tyler Hero, he's kind of got to be

1127
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 2: the guy other than hot three point shooting. So yeah,

1128
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 2: I went and saw the Hawks play the Heat a

1129
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 2: couple of weekends ago, and my kids started calling him

1130
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 2: moldy bamsaw ankle. That's what I'm going to call him. I

1131
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 2: don't know, Moldy bamsaw ankle.

1132
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 3: That is like the biggest diss I've ever heard. But

1133
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 3: it makes no sense.

1134
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 2: Makes that makes no sense why they're saying it. Two

1135
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: weeks later.

1136
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: They like it because it sounds like buzzsaw. I don't know.

1137
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 3: Idea Moldy Bam works too.

1138
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 2: It's been bad and he just signed a huge extent. Well,

1139
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: people be like, oh, you don't want to fall off

1140
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 2: a clip immediately after signing the extension.

1141
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 3: No, no, And now, especially with Jimmy Butler out of

1142
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 3: the picture here, even more falls on his shoulders and

1143
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 3: it's going to continue to do so. So hopefully that's

1144
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 3: just one of those games you throw away and it

1145
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,439
Speaker 3: was really bad, Like that's one of the worst Bam

1146
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 3: games I can remember. I mean, you've probably got to

1147
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 3: go back, like five years longer, I don't know, to

1148
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 3: find a game where he didn't even hit a field

1149
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 3: goal and not even taking a lot at that. So yeah,

1150
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 3: there it is, Bam out of Bayo. To make a

1151
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 3: full circle back to the heat, we'll call it there

1152
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 3: with our winners and losers, we should get off the air,

1153
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 3: because you never know when a Jimmy Butler trade's gonna happen.

1154
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 3: But tass, you are one to know. In the January

1155
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,760
Speaker 3: pick a battle. You and Ash got Friday's game, correct,

1156
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 3: what's our game tonight?

1157
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: Though?

1158
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 1: I'm wearing the Canada mittens. We got the Hocking Night

1159
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: Canada themes, two guns, you got, Everything is right. I'm

1160
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: just waiting for some weather. I mean, it's just it's

1161
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:36,720
Speaker 1: absolutely just pleasant out here. Somehow the weather God's blessed

1162
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: us because there was a storm last night. It was

1163
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: extremely like I woke up in the middle of the

1164
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: night here in the rain and the thunder. But now

1165
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: it's all cleared up. Apparently we'll get cold. We'll get

1166
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: more Canada like later this week, starting tomorrow, hopefully.

1167
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,760
Speaker 3: I think you're going to be very cold tomorrow.

1168
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: I will be complaining. I will definitely be wearing a snood.

1169
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens for anyway, tonight's game, we talked

1170
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: about Phoenix suns. Now they got to go to Philadelphia

1171
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: where Philadelphia is here by three and a half, so

1172
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 1: Philly just got to win by four or more. I

1173
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 1: like that line. I think you're with me skeets. Yeah,

1174
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: and Trey and Esh think that Phoenix can at least

1175
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: lose by three or win this.

1176
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 3: Okay, switching up that starting lineup, Yeah, we'll see.

1177
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's either gonna like that.

1178
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 3: One's a tough one. I struggled with this one. Like,

1179
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 3: on one hand, like, all right, that'll fire up the guys,

1180
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 3: you know, shake things up, you get done in there.

1181
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, pump dog.

1182
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 3: But then on the other hand, it's like, ooh, we've

1183
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 3: gotten to this point where we're now sitting two of

1184
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 3: our most expensive guys and bring them off to the

1185
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 3: bench like this. Maybe it goes really badly and the

1186
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 3: Sixers are playing better back They definitely are. That's a

1187
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 3: part of the question here. So you're going you're going

1188
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 3: Sun though.

1189
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1190
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 2: I think I lost on Friday taking I think the

1191
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 2: Knicks were we did. We took the dog on the road, right,

1192
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 2: So this will be my last time.

1193
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 3: If it doesn't go.

1194
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: We do have a big NHL game, big Canada matchup,

1195
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 2: Canucks versus Canadian ends. Ooh minus one and a half

1196
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 2: for the Canucks on the ice. Damn literally okay, I'm

1197
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 2: okay at bet MGM. Literally every line for every time

1198
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 2: tonight is one and a half every single.

1199
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,720
Speaker 3: Baseball It feels like that too, like different.

1200
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 2: Well, it's even win by one or two? What's it

1201
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 2: gonna be?

1202
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 3: Yeah? Who do you like tonight? Canucks are Canadians?

1203
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: Tests gotta go Ken, Yeah, I must. I have no idea.

1204
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 1: I can't believe Canada lost in the world.

1205
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 3: Oh, I can get it. That's the States one for

1206
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,760
Speaker 3: the second year in the row. Congratulations, that's amazing.

1207
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 2: Finally, Yeah, the Titus turned.

1208
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 1: I know, I know.

1209
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 3: That's impressive. Yeah, all right. Uh on that note, Uh,

1210
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 3: I want to reminder one though tonight on playback, test

1211
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 3: will be inside for this. We will be on playback

1212
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 3: around eight thirty pm Eastern. The link is in the

1213
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:58,240
Speaker 3: show notes. Join our playback groom jumping around the second

1214
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 3: half of the earlier starts and maybe seeing where the

1215
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 3: rest of the schedule goes. Lots of games on tonight,

1216
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 3: so join us on playback. We did it yesterday a

1217
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 3: little surprise playback there for that very entertaining Celtics thunder game,

1218
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,760
Speaker 3: and doing it again tonight. Task work in the remote control.

1219
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 3: All right, tasks, Well, I do believe this will be

1220
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 3: your balmiest day outside.

1221
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: So the wind is picking up as we end our show. Wow,

1222
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: it's literally gusting.

1223
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 3: I love where we have set you up. By the way,

1224
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 3: do you think you'll go through that door behind you?

1225
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1226
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: This is for the set. I walk through.

1227
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 3: Very weird setup we have you just recycling buckets.

1228
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: Thrown around or whatever those yes, recycling.

1229
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 3: Okay, great Wells will be outside once again tomorrow, but

1230
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 3: hopefully we'll see you on playback tonight. Until then, Clipper Brose, you.

1231
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 2: Heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

1232
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: Love you guys awesome.

1233
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, and remember it's getting cold or

1234
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: here in Atlanta where we record, so join us again

1235
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: tomorrow where I will be cold.

1236
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 3: That jacket will be zipped up. Garrotein, Embrace the Eight People.