WEBVTT - More from Laura’s Deposition | BONUS 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:09.000 Hey, it's Stephanie back with a bonus episode. In episode six, 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:12.960 we heard some of Laura's taped deposition. It was recorded 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:15.800 in March of twenty twenty four and it hasn't been 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:19.400 made public before now, so we wanted to share some 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:22.639 more of the jaw dropping moments from the deposition that 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:26.720 didn't make it into the last episode. 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:29.840 Here begins video number one in the video deposition of 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:32.240 Laya Michelle Owens. 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:35.120 I want to start at the very beginning because I 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:39.920 think it's telling. Remember two years before this recording, Laura 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:44.240 emailed a judge accusing Clayton's lawyer, Greg Woodnick of conspiring 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:47.839 to have her raped. In the end, nothing came of 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:53.960 that allegation, no police report, no investigation, nothing. When Wudnick 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:57.040 sat down to tape Laura's deposition in Clayton's case, he 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:02.120 was strikingly patient, thorough, and con He spends five minutes 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:05.919 making sure she understands the deposition process and her rights. 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:10.840 Laura, we're here for your deposition, and before I start 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:12.640 in with questions, I want to make sure you understand 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:15.560 the rules of depositions here in Arizona. I'm going to 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:18.560 do my best to speak slowly so that our sweet 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:22.039 court reporter can transcribe all the words I'm saying. If 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:24.440 I go too fast, she'll probably correct me and slow 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:27.039 me down. She'll do the same for you. I'll ask 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:29.240 you a question, and I expect you to answer the question. 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:31.880 I will do my best not to talk over you, 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:34.039 and I would ask that you do the same to 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:37.360 not talk over me. This is a deposition, which means 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:40.600 it's my opportunity as counsel for mister Eckert to ask 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:44.039 you questions, and you're under oath. It's like a judicial proceeding. 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:47.840 You're expected to testify truthfully. I am not smart enough 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:51.480 to ask tricky questions. I'm going to ask real, basic 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.760 questions and ask for basic answers. We're going to be 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:58.480 covering some sensitive material today, and none of the words 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:00.240 that I'm going to be using bother me, but they 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:02.120 may bother you. I will do my best to get 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:05.400 through those questions quickly and efficiently. I will also take 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:08.440 breaks along the way for bathroom and whatnot. There's a 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:13.560 bathroom here, there's one upstairs. There are bagels and water 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:15.640 if you need it, doesn't click you grabbed a water bottible. 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:17.320 We can bring you on. I want you to be comfortable, 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:20.040 let us know what you need. If you need a break, 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:21.520 just let me know and we'll do a quick five 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.080 minute break. We're scheduled for four hours. My hope is 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:25.960 that we get done much quicker, but a lot of 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:29.359 that will depend on our process today and how quickly 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:32.880 this goes. I want to share with you that I'm 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:37.920 going to be asking you questions that may involve the 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:40.440 need for you to exercise your Fifth Amendment right. I 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:42.560 put this on the record because you always have a 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.280 right to not answer my question. I'm assuming your attorney 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:47.720 told you about this. You could always say to a 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:50.320 question that I'm asking you, I'm not answering that thiss 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:52.440 on my Fifth Amendment right, however you want to word it. 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:55.720 If that happens a lot during the deposition, you and 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:57.560 I can come to a little routine where you go 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:01.200 plead the fifth. I'll just move on to the next question. 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:04.480 I assure you, and Corey will make sure I do this. 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:08.040 I will not badger you about the question you plead 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:09.880 the fifth too. I will move on to the next question. 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:12.360 If you choose to plead the fifth, I just literally 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:14.560 will finish my question. So I make a clear record 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:16.320 and then I'll move on to the next issue. It 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:18.480 is not a situation where I'm going to nag you 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:20.760 about the question you did not answer. But you always 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:22.679 have the right to plead the fifth and I will 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:24.720 respect that, as I think the court will as well. 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:27.079 Let's get into it, Laurik, you give me the full 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:28.040 spelling of your name. 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:30.400 Yes, I just had one question about the pleading the 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:35.040 fifth because we had not discussed that before. I should 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:36.920 know what the fifth means exactly. 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:40.120 Yes, And actually I'm thanking you because you did exactly 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.080 what you're supposed to do. You asked a question, if 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:43.800 you did because you didn't understand my comment, So I 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:45.480 thank you for that. You have a right to not 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:47.800 answer questions on the grounds that it may incriminate you 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:50.600 in any legal proceeding, and Corey will correct me if 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.200 I'm wrong. You don't have to answer questions. This is 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:57.040 what people do when they're worried about criminal consequences for 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.320 the answers to their questions. You don't have to. This 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:01.080 is just a civil proceeding. But even if it were 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.440 a criminal proceeding, the way the law works is you 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:05.720 don't have to answer any question that's incriminating to you, 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:08.320 so you can plead the fifth. There may be consequences 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:10.960 a family court to deal with. Corey can explain that 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:13.000 to you offline. But if I were to ask a 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:16.240 question and you felt that the answer to that question 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:20.040 could cause you criminal consequence, all you have to do, 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:23.159 and Corey can confirm this is say greg or mister 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:24.800 wood Nick, please call me Greg. I'm going to go 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.080 ahead and plead the fifth. I will stop and I 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:30.160 will move on to the next question. Does that answer 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:31.080 your question? Okay? 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:35.719 What Nick starts by asking some basic questions. They go 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:39.640 through her revenue streams, her health history, and her medication list. 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:43.080 I'm going to start off with some exhibits right now. Okay, Actually, 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:44.440 before I do that, I got a couple more questions 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:46.640 for you under oath. Is it your testimony that you 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:49.480 have never been prescribed the drug novarel? 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:53.080 I don't know. Is there another name for it? 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:54.880 I'll give you some of the generic names. If you 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:56.760 don't recognize the name, just say I don't recognize it. 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:01.320 Have you been prescribed the drug novarel? Not that I 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:04.359 recall ovid rel o v I d R E L. 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:07.120 That doesn't sound familiar. 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.400 Pregno p r e g n y L. 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:12.960 I don't know what that is. 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:16.200 Profascy p r o f A s. I. 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.760 No, that's doesn't sound familiar. 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:22.880 Clomaphene. 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:25.200 That doesn't sound familiar. 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:31.839 Clomid doesn't sound familiar, saraphene no. 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:37.000 Wood Nick asks her about every little detail, and it 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:40.760 becomes clear Laura has been a patient at a variety 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:42.400 of major telehealth companies. 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:44.960 I think it's called Tia, but I don't remember who. 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:50.599 What her name is? T I A t I A, oh, yes, Tia. 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:55.200 And it's it's kind of like one medical. I used 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:56.640 a service called capsule. 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.760 Is that a mail service for pharmacy? Kind of? 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:02.640 It's like a delivery one. 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:05.320 Who would prescribe that? 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:07.719 That's prescribed by an online service? 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:09.200 What's the name of the online service? 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:15.760 Health piper. It's like a self pay service. It's uh, 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:17.200 they don't accept insurance. 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.680 Let me ask the question better. If you had stripped 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:23.680 throat or yeah, who would you go see? 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:29.440 I would probably see one medical Okay, who's your obgyn? 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:34.520 I would say the doctor. I saw a mom doc? 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:38.920 Okay, So I want to make real it'd be a 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:42.360 real clear on this. We're here because of obviously, as 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:45.120 you know, allegations that there's a some fraud in a 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:49.880 pregnancy claim. The only obg y N that you're stating 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:52.600 today under oath, and again you complete the fifth is 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:56.680 the doc at mom Doc. The only OBGYN that I 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:59.440 have seen in the past two years that I have seen. 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.520 Yes, I had appointments with others that were canceled, and 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:05.280 I was accepted into a high risk practice, but I 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:06.320 canceled the appointments. 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:09.240 And first I can be real clear on this. You 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.120 understand what an obgyn is, correct? 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:16.680 What is that an obstetrician orlogist. 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:19.560 Or board both in the past twenty four months? What 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:25.080 is the name of any obstetrician or gynecologist who you 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:30.200 have had a medical proceeding or actual appointment with. 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:34.320 The ones that I stated. 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:38.200 No, So those are appointments he didn't go to. I 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.760 want to talk about you actually went in and had 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.520 a discussion with a doctor in a waiting room or 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:49.120 in a patient room mom Doc. So, Mom Doc. So 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:51.720 you've been inside the office at mom Doc. Yes, you've 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:54.080 been inside the exam room at mom Doc. Yes, you've 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.240 been alone with the doctor in mom Doc and maybe 0:07:56.240 --> 0:08:00.880 a nurse who would go in during acological check in 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:06.680 whatever cour That is the only obstetrician or gynecologist for 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:10.800 which you have been inside their practice office in the 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:11.920 past twenty four months. 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:15.960 I guess as well. I mean it was. 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:17.760 A banner at the Urgent Care. Correct. 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:20.960 That was the Urgent Care appointment where she took an 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:25.400 in office pregnancy test that measured her hCG levels. As 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:29.160 you know, that test came back positive. This is something 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:33.040 we'll get into in a later episode, then, wouldn't it? 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:36.960 Continued the deposition, moving on to Laura's history of lawsuits. 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:39.160 I want to talk about litigation that you've been involved 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:42.040 in historically. You had, and I'm just going through to 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:44.200 make sure I've got them all. You were involved in 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:47.200 a civil case, a personal injury case in California. 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:48.440 Uh. Correct. 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:51.920 You had an order of protection involving mister Gillespie correct. Correct, 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:56.559 Protective order proceeding involving Clayton Eckerd correct, Correct, injunction against 0:08:56.600 --> 0:09:01.840 harassment related to Clayton Eckerd. Correct. There's the current paternity 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:05.160 action which is pending before Judge Julie Matta correct. 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:05.840 Correct. 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:07.920 Any other litigation that I need to know about. 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:13.760 Not that I can think of. 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:16.920 Now well, you sued Dave Neil, the podcaster. 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:18.920 I tried to get an injunction against for osmin. I 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:19.600 didn't sue him. 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:22.760 You also had a civil name change action that you 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:24.720 filed in the middle of this case. Correct. 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:28.840 In November twenty twenty three, Laura filed a petition to 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:29.600 change her name. 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:32.320 Have you ever gone by any other aliases? 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:32.880 No? 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:35.880 There was a legal proceeding in which you asked to 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:39.520 change your name to a different name. Do you recall 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:40.240 what that name. 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:41.560 Was, Emily Wilson. 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:44.880 Have you ever gone by the name Emily Wilson other 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:48.520 than for purposes of filing the petition for name change? 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:49.359 No? 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:52.960 Have you ever signed any document under the name Emily Wilson. 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:53.240 No. 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:58.080 Laura wrote that she was being stalked and harassed online. 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.240 She also said she has an order of protection against 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.240 three men who were trying to locate her. But less 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:08.560 than a month later, Laura withdrew this petition, stating that quote. 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:12.360 A YouTube content creator named Dave Neil discovered my name 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.640 change petition shortly after its filing and chose to share 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:19.280 this information with his audience. This dissemination of my intended 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:22.119 name change, as well as the reasons why I requested 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:26.400 it have rendered the new name ineffective and therefore unusable 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:30.200 due to the public exposure. She also asked for a 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:33.400 refund of any fees associated with the name change process. 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.920 The court denied that request in May of twenty twenty four. 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:39.760 Let go ahead and take a five minute fathom break 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:44.479 right now, off the record at eight fifty seven am. 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:48.280 After the break, when Nick turns to some exhibits. 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.120 Okay, I'm going to show you what's been marked as 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:54.200 exhibit number one, and actually it should be rand from you. 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:02.040 You acknowledge that those are the same ultrasound image. Yes, 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:04.920 and they both have your name on it. Yes. And 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:08.480 they both have your identifying information on them. Yes, and 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:11.560 you're denying their yours. Yes. Okay. Let's go on to 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:17.880 exhibit number three. Exhibit number three is an Honor Healthcare 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:20.840 Scottsdale sonogram dated August eighth, twenty twenty one. 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:23.280 That's what it says, is. 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:27.840 That your sonogram Exhibit three. No, so you're denying that. 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:32.720 Exhibits one, two, and three are your medical records, correct? Okay. 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:38.720 Exhibit number four, you acknowledge that you sent that message 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:43.400 to Clayton Eckered on May seventeenth, twenty twenty three. Yes, okay, 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:47.000 so that is actually you. Yes, okay, but the exhibits one, 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:51.440 two and three were not you. Correct, Okay, I'm going 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:54.000 to show you exhibit number five. 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:59.160 It continued on like this for some time, with Laura 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:03.200 picking and choose what were real messages she'd sent. Then, 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.000 when Nick turned up the heat and asked about the 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.960 doctor's appointments, Laura claimed she'd been to I'm. 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:11.800 Going to be real clear. You testified under oath before 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:15.560 Judge Gail Katsis on November two, twenty twenty three. Correct, correct, 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:17.840 And everything you said to Judge Gail Katsis was truthful 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:22.800 that I can recall. Okay, you told Judge Gail Ketsis 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:27.360 that you had seen doctor McCool. I'm going to play 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:28.760 it for you in a second. I'm just reminding you 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.400 before I play it. You testified under oath with Judge 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:34.520 Galkatsis that you were being treated by doctor McCool. Correct. 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:37.480 Well, technically I was accepted into his practice. I was 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:40.040 still so did his timeline. 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:42.360 You didn't lie, you just misled. 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:48.280 I I don't think the thoughts of well, I don't 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:50.040 think that's a fair way to say it. I mean 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.959 he accepts people based on whether or not he could 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.120 be there for their delivery date, and I was still 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:56.680 technically in a system with him. 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:58.000 How do you know that you never met him? 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:00.800 Because I had to speak extensive with his office in 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:01.679 order to get accepted. 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:03.120 What color hair does doctor mcooll have? 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:04.839 He doesn't have hair as far as I know. 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:05.760 Have you ever met him? 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:06.120 No? 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:07.840 Has he ever touched you shaking your hand? 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:08.800 No? 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:14.719 Sorry, but you told Judge Gail keatsis that you were 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:18.440 being treated by doctor McCool correct or incorrect? Correct? 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:20.560 I'm still in his patient portal. It says that I'm 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:23.640 one of his patients. So it does still say that 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:25.439 in the patient. 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:30.000 Portal, wouldn't it wanted answers about the ultrasounds she'd sent Clayton. 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:38.320 Your position is that the ultrasound from July correct says 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:39.600 that you're pregnant with twins. 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:42.880 Correct, Okay, and then it's confirmed by another provider. 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:47.560 Hang on, we're getting there, okay, and show me in 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:50.079 the labs where the fetuses were gendered. 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.920 Well, I had to ask a provider online what they thought, 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:57.000 and for whatever reason, they said they thought it looked 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:01.880 like a boy and a girl. I don't understand. Again, 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:03.920 it was the provider who who. 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:10.960 Is the provider who told you that exhibit number nine 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:13.680 was a male and female fetus. 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:17.160 It was whatever service I got the pills from. I 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.160 had provided them with the ultra sound image. I'm sure 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:20.160 I have records. 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:21.680 I need that. So how can you get that to me? 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.880 I can. I will be able to find it. I can. 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:27.680 I can find it. I will get it to you. 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:31.160 I can ask a question, correct, did you to get 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:35.480 the abortion pills? Yes, you had to provide information to 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:36.880 the online abortion portal. 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:40.840 It wasn't really a portal. It was like a texting service. 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:45.520 Okay, what did you send them? 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:49.440 I sent them like the test from Banner, and I 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:51.720 sent them this and because I was wanting to know 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:53.400 if I needed to take more if it was going 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:54.040 to be twins. 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:57.160 Okay for second, So let's talk about that, the image 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:00.440 that you sent to that service. Okay, did you send 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:02.040 it to him texts? 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.640 As far as I recall, it could have been. It 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:07.120 could have been uploading to something I'd go on. I 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:07.760 looked at it. 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:09.240 So we're going to get you have no problem sharing 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:10.080 the name of that service. 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:10.600 I don't. 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.640 And the image that you sent to them. Was it 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:15.720 the one that you altered or was it the original? 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:18.720 Are you talking about the part that was altered at 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:19.040 the top. 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:22.280 You know what I'm talking about. You changed a medical record, 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:23.760 and you're not a physician. Correct. 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:26.880 I changed the top, but it was my image. 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:32.720 Did you send this service the altered version of exhibit 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.480 nine or the original version of Exhibit nine? 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:39.440 I believe I just sent them. I don't know I 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:41.640 sent them the ultrasound. I'm honestly not sure. 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:45.960 Near the end of the deposition, Woodnick asks her about 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:48.479 a doctor's appointment she said she'd been to in October, 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:53.280 and Laura reveals this was another video appointment, not an 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:54.800 in person exam. 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.680 Wait, hang on for a second. October seventeen, twenty twenty 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:04.120 three was a video appointment? Yes, okay, So when you 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:08.040 say here, so this appointment says that she'sing that you're 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:12.080 being treated for a traumatic brain injury epilepsy depression ADHD, 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:17.040 and it says they discuss your meds during pregnancy. You're 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:20.680 getting care with an epileptic clinic today. And it says 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:25.920 you're currently twenty two weeks pregnant with a boy and girl. Correct, So, 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:28.640 that was from yourself reporting through the video portal. 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:30.280 Correct, that was Yes. 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:34.680 So we can agree that Stephanie Chen did not examine 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:35.320 you physically. 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:38.680 Well, she saw me physically on a video. I think 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:41.160 I was very noticeably pregnant. I mean, so. 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:47.520 We can agree that she didn't examine you physically, and 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:51.520 also she's a nurse. But she didn't examine you physically well, I. 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:54.000 Mean she didn't know, but she saw what my stomach 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:54.440 looked like. 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:56.640 Right, And you understand that there's been allegations that you 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:58.200 were wearing a prosthetic stomach. 0:16:58.440 --> 0:16:59.960 I'm aware of the allocation. 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:01.520 Yeah, okay, we're going to talk about that in a 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:01.920 little bit. 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:06.119 Yes, they never do return to the allegations that Laura 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:08.720 was wearing a prosthetic stomach. But at the end of 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.479 the deposition, wouldn't it asks her this question? 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:15.359 Are you familiar with the word pseudocysis? What is it? 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:20.600 I've seen it on on Reddit about thinking you're pregnant? 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:23.880 Have you researched it at all, like WebMD that sort 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:24.120 of thing? 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:26.480 Absolutely not. I just saw it on there because people 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:28.359 have accused me of that when I have not a 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:32.320 cool proof of each. So I'm not concerned. 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:44.920 And that's all I got. I don't know anything today. 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:44.960 Anything else. 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:45.440 For the record. 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.240 Before we close, this will mark the in of video 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:51.320 number one. This deposition has concluded. We are off the 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:59.040 record at eleven thirty four am. 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:01.560 Thank you so much for listening, and stay tuned for 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:04.800 new episodes and bonus content on the Love Trapped feed.