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Speaker 1: Welcome to an all new episode of Her Playbook, presented

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Speaker 1: by Kendra Scott. Her Playbook as a podcast highlighting inspiring

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Speaker 1: stories of women in sport and business.

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Speaker 2: My name is Madeline Burke and.

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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined by Katie Diciaro, the head

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Speaker 1: coach of Somr's High School girls flag football and the

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Speaker 1: co founder of Gridiron Partners. Katie, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: For joining me today. Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: It's so exciting to see the growth of flag football.

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Speaker 2: It's now an Olympic sport.

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Speaker 1: It's something that is so prominent in so many people's lives.

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Speaker 1: But I remember when it was just something that people

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Speaker 1: played at recess. How did you come up with the

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Speaker 1: idea or decide to start this flag football program in SOMRS.

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Speaker 2: Well, I had only grown up playing with my brother,

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Speaker 2: who taught me everything I know, and at recess as well.

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Speaker 2: And not until college did I get to play on

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Speaker 2: a team at the University of Tennessee, and it quickly

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Speaker 2: became my favorite sport in something I wanted to play forever.

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Speaker 2: And of course football has always been a big part

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Speaker 2: of my life. But if you don't have the opportunity

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Speaker 2: to play, you have to make one. So that's basically

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Speaker 2: how it was inspired. I have three daughters and I

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Speaker 2: wanted to teach them every sport that I knew, and

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Speaker 2: football was one of them that they really took to

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Speaker 1: Well, a lot of people out there will have an

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Speaker 1: idea of something they want to see executed, but taking

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Speaker 1: an idea and actually creating it in reality is something

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Speaker 1: that's challenging sometimes. How did you or who was helpful

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Speaker 1: in that process for you, and how did you tackle

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Speaker 1: that from saying Okay, this is something I want to

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Speaker 1: this is something that we're going to have executed.

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Speaker 2: Sure. So football was a very special part of our community.

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Speaker 2: It's something that I'm very passionate about, and girls don't

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Speaker 2: normally play football in our well had not played football

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Speaker 2: in our community. So the community really took to the

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Speaker 2: we were so inspired to just empower the girls to

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Speaker 2: it's one of the best sports that's ever been created.

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Speaker 1: When you started it, it was, you know, a handful

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Speaker 1: grown exponentially. What's been the key in your eyes to

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Speaker 2: I think that there is so much support from so

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Speaker 2: many people. It's not just one person. Jen and I

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Speaker 2: had amazing coaches, amazing organizations that supported us, people in

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Speaker 2: our school, in our community. The Giants obviously have been

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Speaker 2: a huge part of our growth and excitement and legitimacy

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Speaker 2: in this sport. It takes a lot of people who

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Speaker 2: were on the same mission to grow something into a success,

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Speaker 2: and we have been so fortunate to have so many

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Speaker 1: A lot of NFL teams will kind of reach out

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Speaker 1: and participate with some flag football programs locally. But how

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Speaker 1: has the Giants organization been helpful for you guys in Soomarch?

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Speaker 2: Since the day that I had reached out to Chris Mara,

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Speaker 2: immediately they were asking what can we do for you,

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Speaker 2: How can we help you? It is such a genuine

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Speaker 2: for this organization. They've come to our kickoff event since

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned so casually almost all when I reached

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Speaker 2: I had known Chris from a different part of my life,

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Speaker 2: And sometimes you just have to go for it, and

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Speaker 1: I like that too, because I think especially people get

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Speaker 1: That's so important in a team sport setting, or particularly

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Speaker 2: It builds confidence. It allows you to be in a

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Speaker 2: of football. In the field of sports, there's so many

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Speaker 2: I have a right to be here and nobody's gonna

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Speaker 1: How have you seen the interest in the sport grow,

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Speaker 2: Well, now the girls have the opportunity to continue. Just

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Speaker 2: and now there's the Olympics. So I think there's no

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Speaker 2: I think it's inspiring them to pursue the sport when

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Speaker 2: Why are we doing this? And my only answer to

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Speaker 2: just in this moment. It's giving the girls so much,

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Speaker 2: So now they have the inspiration to go as far

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Speaker 1: Description of what Gridiron Partners is. Jenna and I started

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Speaker 1: and Iron Partners during COVID. We wanted to share our

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Speaker 1: passion for football with people outside of our community. We

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Speaker 1: had started a youth program and a rec program.

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Speaker 2: But we saw the need for more. We wanted to

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Speaker 2: And then we started our women's league as well.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing when you think about the fact that there

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Speaker 1: what is a piece of advice that you would give.

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Speaker 2: I would say that you find the people on the

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Speaker 2: to empower these females. And myself and our coaches and

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Speaker 2: the people in our community, we were always there to

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Speaker 1: here on her playbook with Katie Diquiaro, the head coach

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Speaker 1: of somr's High School Girls flag football and the co

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Speaker 1: a couple of guests that you brought with you today,

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Speaker 1: Maria and Kiara. Why don't you introduce them.

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Speaker 2: Maria is one of my great friends. She's a teammate

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Speaker 2: in my women's league. She's a coach for every single

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Speaker 1: Amazing and Ri I'll start with you being such a

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Speaker 1: pillar in the flag football community as it's growing. Working

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Speaker 1: with Katie, what has flag football meant to you?

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Speaker 3: It's so easy for them, you know, if there's so

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Speaker 3: Like what Katie was saying before, there's no limit to

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Speaker 1: And Kier you're in sixth grade, right, that's great. How

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Speaker 4: To see that she's able to play a sport even

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Speaker 1: Do you and your friends look at playing in this

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Speaker 4: It's one of my favorite sports. I love it a lot,

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Speaker 1: What is the best thing that you've learned from your mom,

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Speaker 1: from Katie, from your coaches about playing on a team

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Speaker 4: Know that it's not just for boys to play, and

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Speaker 1: That's incredible because it's also too, like it's so empowering

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Speaker 1: you seen the effect not just on the young girls

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Speaker 2: I have seen the boys come and support the girls

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Speaker 1: It is really empowering too to see what a movement

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Speaker 1: Kia, how much has it been fun for you to

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Speaker 4: It's been really fun to share like the same passion

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Speaker 2: That's been really fun.

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Speaker 2: Sport in general? Oh, I think it's imperative to have

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Speaker 2: We're a football town, but we're a flag football town

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Speaker 2: Wow, every time we've done one thing, we have a

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Speaker 1: Maria, what about you, what do you want to see

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Speaker 3: I always say every community needs a Katie because you

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Speaker 1: Like that, Well, looking forward to watching the sport continue

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Speaker 1: and as I'm sure.

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Speaker 2: It still will.

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Speaker 1: Katie, Maria Kierra, thank you so much for taking the

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Speaker 1: time today on her playbook, presented by Kendri Scott,