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Speaker 1: This is One Bills Live, presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we are on a Wednesday, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker, One Bill's Lives the show. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Travel day for your Buffalo Bills. We stay here for

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Speaker 2: now in studio at One Bill's Drive. We will be

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Speaker 2: joining them tomorrow. We'll do our show here tomorrow and

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Speaker 2: then we're hitting the road, going down the throu Way

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Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh, Hi ho. And then we'll reconnoiter with the team.

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Speaker 2: And you like that one fifty cent.

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Speaker 1: Word today, Yeah, will reconnoiter. They won't even notice we

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Speaker 1: were there or not there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't pay attention to our connoitering.

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Speaker 1: The connoideringers are our own to communder.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, we'll get ready for the game on Saturday

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Speaker 2: and it'll be honest before we know it. And there's

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Speaker 2: a to do list there. We heard from Bobby Babbage

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Speaker 2: this morning, who addressed the media via zoom prior to

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Speaker 2: their travel and the one thing I took away from

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Speaker 2: his comments he was asked what led to getting beat

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Speaker 2: thirty three to six and the game getting away from you? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and he had a one word answer, fundamentals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it doesn't surprise me, but they tended when

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Speaker 1: you're asking for a simple question, simple answer, they'll give

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Speaker 1: you one. And certainly that's it. Fundamentals. It looked to

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Speaker 1: more emotional than mechanical. They just didn't. They looked like

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Speaker 1: they had already practiced once that day and it was

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Speaker 1: the second practice, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: That's an interesting way of putting it.

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Speaker 1: So I'm looking it'll be a little bit different this week,

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Speaker 1: and it will be interesting to see and hear. Maybe

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Speaker 1: if somebody thinks to ask them, ask one of the

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Speaker 1: players post game, no matter how the game goes, what

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Speaker 1: difference it had made practicing against the Steelers the two

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Speaker 1: days before the game. That'll be an interesting question to

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Speaker 1: hear the answer to because once you get on the

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Speaker 1: field and in a game and it is completely different

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Speaker 1: than practice for players, But having a chance to get

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Speaker 1: you get a sense of who those guys are kind

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Speaker 1: of helps. I think we'll see. I know this too.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers lumped the Bills up pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Last year.

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Speaker 1: Last preseason. It was out there, and it was after

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Speaker 1: the Bills had put them out of the playoffs the

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Speaker 1: year before, and they didn't didn't they.

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Speaker 2: That was when they put them out of the playoffs

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Speaker 2: this past year.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I know, but two years ago, I remember they

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Speaker 1: did something year or the year before they played two

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Speaker 1: three years ago before they played him in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: They played him in the regular season and beating them

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Speaker 1: on Week three. Remember when the when Josh had the

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Speaker 1: ninety five yard touchdown.

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Speaker 2: That was a blowout.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a blowout. So the next time they

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Speaker 1: faced each other, the Steelers remembered it, at least Mike

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Speaker 1: Tomlin did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, since might remember the playoff game too from last January. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the bills up, but you got moved back a day

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Speaker 1: Remember that they backed it up by ten or beat

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Speaker 1: him by ten? I believe so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was thirty one seventeen fire you go,

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Speaker 2: I remember. Let's see. Yeah, they might remember that and

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Speaker 2: it might try to bring it to the field, although

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Speaker 2: there's a not a lot of new people and a

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Speaker 2: lot of new places for both teams for that matter.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Mason Rudolph started that game at quarterback for the.

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Speaker 1: Steelers thirty one seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Like all three of the quarterbacks on the Steelers roster

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Speaker 2: last year are not with the team. Trubisky's here's somewhere else,

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Speaker 2: and that has been the story. I think in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 2: Rus Wilson coming over from Denver for nothing like less

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Speaker 2: than two million dollars, less than two million dollars on

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Speaker 2: the Steelers books, and then, uh, Justin Fields coming over

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Speaker 2: from Chicago, and Justin Fields has got to be looking

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Speaker 1: They got Mike Evans, they got they don't have Mike Evans.

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Speaker 1: They got Mike Williams.

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Speaker 2: Mike, No, they don't have Mike.

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Speaker 1: Wait, who's the guy they got from Keenan Allen, Keenan

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Speaker 1: Allen because I hate myself, Keenan Allen. Yeah, I've got

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Speaker 1: Roma Dunees. A got Roma Dunees. They got some guys

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Speaker 1: now and they didn't have those guys, and they got

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Speaker 2: Linemen and they got DeAndre Swift.

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Speaker 1: So Justin Fields didn't going what the hell, dude?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, throw me a bone. Well, I was

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Speaker 1: a quarterback over there, right, So now you know Caleb

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Speaker 1: Williams is over there with it, you know, driving us,

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Speaker 1: you know, driving a Ferrari after you know, Justin Fields

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Speaker 1: was driving around a beat up twenty ten civic. You know,

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Speaker 1: it was he's got to be sitting there going, dudes,

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Speaker 1: give me a chance. So the Steelers pick him up

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Speaker 1: knowing he's got something to prove. And it has been said,

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Speaker 1: they said, listen, Russ Wilson's the starter, no question.

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Speaker 2: They said that when he signed. Yeah, and they're getting

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Speaker 2: a lot closer to an open competition right now.

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Speaker 1: Well, there was a moment in training camp where Russ

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Speaker 1: everybody's like, oh, here we goes, Justin Fields is gonna

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Speaker 2: No, you know, so you don't think Russ has anything

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. I'm saying he's the starter on

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Speaker 1: opening You're not gonna. They're not gonna. They may We

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Speaker 1: ain't been watching the Steelers practice every day. It's been

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Speaker 1: the Bills we've been watching, So I don't know. Maybe

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields is showing something. Maybe they're finding some things

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Speaker 1: out about him they didn't know, some of them not good.

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Speaker 1: Maybe who knows, But yeah, Russ Wilson's gonna because, believe me,

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Speaker 1: Russ Wilson, if you're gonna, if Russ Wilson's gonna play

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Speaker 1: his best football for you. You better get him out there

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Speaker 1: early because he ain't gonna last. He's nine thousand years

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Speaker 1: old at this point. He's got a lot of miles

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Speaker 1: on him. And here's the thing, here's the reason I

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Speaker 1: say that, I don't want to I'm exaggerating to make

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Speaker 1: a point. Russ Wilson is not a big dude. Big

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Speaker 1: dudes in the league when they when they reach the

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Speaker 1: end of it, they drop precipitously. Big guys who are

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Speaker 1: physically gifted tend to hang around a little longer. Guys

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Speaker 1: like Marino, guys like Elway, guys like Philip Rivers, guys

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Speaker 1: like Roethlisberger. You know, they hang around because of their

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Speaker 1: physical gifts and the fact that they've played. John Elway

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Speaker 1: was that way, Jim was that way. But guys like yeah,

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Speaker 1: Russ Wilson and Drew Breeze. He's played for what fortunately

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Speaker 1: a high level until the very end, and then it

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Speaker 1: was gone, I mean gone gone right now, He's you

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Speaker 1: but he was good until the end, and then all

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Speaker 2: Not Russell Wilson is I think thirty five years old.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so a guy like of Russell Wilson's physical makeup,

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Speaker 1: he did it with guile. And I'll say this too,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not I don't know Russ Wilson. I mean

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Speaker 1: I met him. I've met him, had some production meetings

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Speaker 1: with him. Seemed nice enough. And and you can say

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Speaker 1: what you want to about his online presence and his

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Speaker 1: brand or whatever you want to say it. I've You'd

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Speaker 1: be hard pressed to show me a quarterback in NFL

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Speaker 1: who has throughout his career and it has been a

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Speaker 1: good career, maybe a great career, who is more poised

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Speaker 1: than that guy is. He has the ability to stay

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Speaker 1: alive in the pocket. He throws that moon ball where

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Speaker 1: only his guy's got a chance and rarely throws the

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Speaker 1: bad interception. He has been a really, really good quarterback

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Speaker 1: and he you know, has ability as you see him,

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Speaker 1: we're watching these highlights right now. He just never seems

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Speaker 1: to get flustered and he always gets he gets rid

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Speaker 1: of the ball at times when you think there's no way.

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Speaker 2: He can high angle of release. Yes, he is huge

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Speaker 2: for him as a five foot eleven quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Right he's not a tall dude.

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Speaker 2: One of the best deep ball accuracy throwers, yes, that

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Speaker 2: I've seen in my lifetime. Yes, and he looks here's

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Speaker 2: the thing. Yeah. I mean, you're right about the deterioration

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Speaker 2: of his talent. But I distinctly remember a Bill's Seahawks

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Speaker 2: game during the Toronto series. He hung a fifty burger

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Speaker 2: on the drought era Bills and he ran, i want

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Speaker 2: to say, for three touchdowns in that game. He was

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Speaker 2: running all over the field killing him.

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Speaker 1: He was a good player, he was a great player.

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Speaker 2: He was get fast forward to twenty twenty, right, isn't

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Speaker 2: that when they last came here Seahawks?

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Speaker 1: And I believe.

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Speaker 2: Aj Klein sacked him like two and a half times

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Speaker 2: in the game. I was like, what happened to Russell

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Speaker 2: Wilson's escapability?

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty regular season?

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Speaker 2: Aj Klein running him down Week eight, Week nine game

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Speaker 1: Four week nine, forty four thirty four correct? And in

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Speaker 1: that game it looked like the same guy. In that game,

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Speaker 1: Russe Wilson was twenty eight to forty one for three

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Speaker 1: ninety two tds. He also threw two picks against Josh.

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Speaker 2: How many times he gets sacked.

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Speaker 1: Well, Josh was thirty one of thirty eight for four

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Speaker 1: fifteen three tds, no picks. You're gonna win. How many

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Speaker 1: times he get sacked three or four times? He got

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Speaker 1: sacked one, two, three, four, five times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I remember watching that game going, all right,

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Speaker 2: he can still sling it, but man, his escapability isn't

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Speaker 2: what he used to be. I mean, I remember watching

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Speaker 2: that game up in Toronto. I'm just like, they can't

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Speaker 2: catch this guy. He's like a jack rabbit out there

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Speaker 2: running around. They're grabbing it air, they're diving all over

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Aj Klein had two sacks, Tremaine Edmunds had a sack,

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Speaker 1: a sack. There you go, that's it was nobody. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I'm I'm thinking when Justin Fields, Russ Wilson, I

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Speaker 1: think the Steelers have known now. And I'll say this too,

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Speaker 1: Mike Thomas never had a losing season at Pittsburgh. Well documented.

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Speaker 1: It's been a thing.

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Speaker 2: Is that a couple of nine and eights. He flirted

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Speaker 2: with it.

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Speaker 1: No question, And there are always there's always the squeaky

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Speaker 1: wheel in the fan base that says, get rid of him,

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Speaker 1: he's no good. And then the guy's never had a

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Speaker 2: It's hard to do.

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Speaker 1: But one of the criticisms which you always hear as well,

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Speaker 1: he had Ben Roethlisberger. That's the only chance he got

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Speaker 1: to a super Bowl. I mean, let me just tell

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Speaker 1: you something. If you're gonna go to a super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: you got a Josh Allen or Pat Mahomes or Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: You got to Justin Herbert, you gotta Joe Burrow. You

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Speaker 1: And even that this the Niners, they got there with

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Speaker 1: Pery brock brock Purdy, who's by this just In isn't

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Speaker 1: So they've got a guy, Matt Stafford. You know, you

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Speaker 1: It's going to be it's gonna be an interesting weekend

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Speaker 2: Let's go Around the NFL presented by Kalida Health, the

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Speaker 2: A bit of a scary situation earlier today, tight end

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Speaker 1: And they never called him. There should have been more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. How about that Ray Davis call for illegal formation?

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Speaker 1: He covered up a tight end, is what he did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So there he had to just back.

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Speaker 2: Off learning lessons. Other news around the league the San

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Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine Ers, and the latest on the Ayuk saga.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, can we be done with it? Already?

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Speaker 2: Still trying to work out a long term contract with Ayuk,

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Speaker 2: but they've also agreed to the parameters of their trade

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Speaker 2: ESPN reports. Defending NFC champion Niners don't want to trade Ayuk,

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Speaker 2: but contract negotiations have at times been contentious. Talks between

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Speaker 2: grass isn't always greener.

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Speaker 1: You want to be here, That's there's a point to

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Speaker 2: And one of the Pittsburgh reporters, longtime Pittsburgh reporters, Jerry Dulac,

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Speaker 2: the other way in the deal, which would indicate it's

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That surprised me because that's a that's a big contract

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Speaker 1: Well, they've got fourteen million in space, or they at

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Speaker 1: least they did yesterday. I haven't checked unless there's been

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Speaker 1: we'll get him. Now that yeah, today is down below

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Speaker 1: They're the ones now that have some urgency to make

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Speaker 1: the Steelers are in absolutely no hurries. They're all said,

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Speaker 1: they we got our team, you know. So I'm right

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Speaker 1: now if I'm the Steelers are doing the exact right thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll wait for your call.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let us know when you're ready to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Here's our here's our offer, and it's a total low

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Speaker 2: In other AFC North news, the Browns have signed linebacker

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Speaker 2: Jeremiah Usu Koramoa to a three year contract extension worth

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Speaker 2: up to thirty nine million dollars. He was a Pro

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Speaker 1: Yeah's and you know, sooner or later those and that's

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Speaker 2: You know, Odell Beckham Junior is not running in Dolphin's practices.

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Speaker 2: I've got to see him catching and running routes with

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Speaker 1: That doesn't sound good, No, it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: That guy's not gonna be on the field week one

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Speaker 1: He's not even running routes. He's got a three million dollars,

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Speaker 1: Whatever this injury is.

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Speaker 1: Tell you what it is.

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Speaker 2: But if they are, the guy that's got two a

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Speaker 1: Right now, here's the thing too, if if he if

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Speaker 1: it is one of those things they think it's gonna be,

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Speaker 1: Obija is an insurance policy. They'll hang He'll hang around

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Speaker 1: you got a cushion like they did last year. They

436
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Speaker 1: got a three game cushion with five games to play.

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Speaker 1: You take him out and put Obj in and give

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Speaker 1: Tyreek a week off or Jaylen Waddle a week off

439
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Speaker 1: so that they can, you know, be fresh for the

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Speaker 1: playoff run. That kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that Obj is even close to what

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Speaker 2: those two guys are now in his age thirty one

443
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Speaker 2: season after two ACLS. My prediction is when they reduce

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Speaker 2: the roster to fifty three, they move him from active

445
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Speaker 2: PUP to IR designated to return and oh, and he's ready,

446
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 2: they pull him off. Sure he returns. Sure could be

447
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Speaker 2: a month, could be two months. You may not see

448
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Speaker 2: the field till Halloween.

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Speaker 1: I think magically it'll be just when they need him,

450
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Speaker 1: because he'll be ready and they'll leave him on that

451
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Speaker 1: until they need him and then pressed change. Oh, here

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Speaker 1: he is.

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Speaker 2: Last note from around the NFL. Tavon Austin retired after

454
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Speaker 2: ten seasons in the league. Announced his retirement on Instagram yesterday, saying,

455
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Speaker 2: after an incredible ten years, I'm officially retiring from the NFL.

456
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Speaker 2: Former first round pick was he was a jitterbug at

457
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Speaker 2: West Virginia man forty four hundred and forty six total

458
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Speaker 2: yards from scrimmage in fifty two games. That's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: And this is a bit of Bill's history connected to

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Speaker 2: Taevon Austin. Bills in the twenty thirteen draft have the

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Speaker 2: eighth overall pick. They moved back to sixteen in a

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Speaker 2: trade with the Saint Louis Rams, who moved up to

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Speaker 2: eight and take Tevon Austin. And Austin was here for

464
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Speaker 2: a cup of coffee. He was on a training camp

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Speaker 2: roster here. Also played with the Cowboys, Niners, Packers, Jaguars

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Speaker 2: after spending his first five seasons with the Rams. So

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Speaker 2: good for him. Got ten years on that pension. That's

468
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Speaker 2: pretty good. He'll be a happy fellow.

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Speaker 1: And well, plus plus he was a first round draft people,

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Speaker 1: well that helps, and eight top ten pick if yeah, yeah,

471
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Speaker 1: that's a big chunk of money.

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Speaker 2: I went back and watched some of his college highlights.

473
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Speaker 2: They were impressive. But I don't know, it's weird. It's

474
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Speaker 2: like you look at highlights from yesteryear and you're like, Eh,

475
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Speaker 2: he's good. It's not like wow, you know, And back

476
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Speaker 2: in twenty ten, I think we were like wow, and

477
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Speaker 2: now here we are, you know, yeah, fourteen years later

478
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Speaker 2: and it's not. The wow is like lowercase letters. Why

479
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Speaker 2: is that?

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Speaker 1: I wonder why that is?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Is because we're like watching Tyreek Hill

482
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Speaker 2: run around and that's wow. I don't know. Maybe is

483
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Speaker 2: that the difference. It couldn't be. That was a fast dude, man.

484
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Speaker 2: He ran the four low four threes, and yeah, he

485
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Speaker 2: was a handful.

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Speaker 1: I read, Yeah, I read an article. You want to

487
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Speaker 1: talk about fast guys and I want to change this subject.

488
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Speaker 1: But I read a brief history of Deon Sanders, stories

489
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Speaker 1: from guys who played with him at Florida State and

490
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Speaker 1: some of the annex that happen on, stories that went on,

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Speaker 1: and I will say this, I I corroborate all of them.

492
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Speaker 1: He on when the cameras came out. He's a persona.

493
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Speaker 1: He's a media guy, but that is what it is

494
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Speaker 1: when he's away from the camera. He is a serious

495
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Speaker 1: dude in terms of his whatever whatever profession he was in,

496
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Speaker 1: whether it's a baseball player, where there's a football player,

497
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Speaker 1: and whether it's a broadcaster, he was serious about it

498
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Speaker 1: and he was committed to being really good at it.

499
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Speaker 1: His personal life was was buttoned up as well. Personal yeah,

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Speaker 1: his personal life and just and I say this too,

501
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Speaker 1: I never saw I never saw a better athlete on

502
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Speaker 1: the football field than that guy. I never saw Boat.

503
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Speaker 1: It was too brief to now Bo was special too.

504
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: Bo was incredibly special.

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Speaker 2: Those two cats played two sports.

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Speaker 1: If listen, I'll say this about Bo. If he's healthy

507
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: that fifty one to three game, I'll bet you ain't.

508
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Speaker 1: Fifty one to three.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, probably not.

510
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Speaker 1: He was out that next that next he had broken

511
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: his hip. Yeah, well broken it just located it the

512
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: week before in the Cincinnati Championship game. And when the

513
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: Raiders showed up here without him, I think, yeah, their

514
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Speaker 1: starts was gone. Obviously we beat him fifty one to three.

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Speaker 1: But let me tell you some deon Sanders my acid test.

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this. People know, I played for

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Speaker 1: a long time, and I played with a bunch of

518
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Speaker 1: Hall of famers on my team with a head Hall

519
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: of Fame head coach. I played against Hall of famers

520
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. I played with and against Hall

521
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: of famers for seven years in the Pro Bowl in Hawaii.

522
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Speaker 1: I kind of got to know a ton about elite athletes.

523
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Speaker 1: My acid test is this, when you're in a locker

524
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: room private, joking around with all these tremendously great, famous

525
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: players and we're jomoking in the locker room talking about

526
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Speaker 1: when they start talking about a guy and they whisper,

527
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: they go, did you see what that guy did at

528
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: practice today? That's with it. That's the acid test. When

529
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: they when great players whisper your name and conversation, you're special.

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00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: And Dion Sanders name was never said out loud. It

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Speaker 1: was like, did you see what Dion did?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Do you see what Prime did today? It was that

534
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Speaker 1: And there was only a handful of guys during my

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Speaker 1: career that guys would do that for Bo was one

536
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Speaker 1: of them. But yeah, yeah, So when you talk about

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Speaker 1: guys like Tevon Austin retiring and you go back and

538
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: look at their highlights, Dion's highlights will still wow you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I would agree with that. Uh. Topic of discussion

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Speaker 2: for you today? What position group still has something to

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Speaker 2: prove this preseason? Got two preseason games to go, a

542
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 2: lot on the to do lists? What position group do

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Speaker 2: you think still has something to prove this preseason? Let

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Speaker 2: us know at eight oh three oh five, fifty one

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Speaker 2: eighty eight, five fifty two, five fifty it's the number

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Speaker 2: to get on board. Got open lines for you there.

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Speaker 2: If you don't have time to give us a call,

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00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: you can hit us up on the tweetsheet at one

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Speaker 2: Bills Live. We have to take a break here, but

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Speaker 2: Cindy and Niagara Falls. Butch on the east side will

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Speaker 2: lead us off when we return here on One Bill's

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Speaker 2: Live presented by Colida Health.

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Speaker 4: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back here on One Bill's Live. What position group still

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Speaker 2: has something to prove this preseason? You pick one? Let

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Speaker 2: us know eight oh three oh five fifty one eighty eight,

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Speaker 2: five fifty two, five point fifty. Got some open lines

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Speaker 2: for you there. But we lead off as promised with

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Speaker 2: Cindy in Niagara Falls. What do you got for Cindy

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Speaker 2: or on One Bills Live.

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Speaker 5: Hi, guys, love your show. I'm just I'm a little

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Speaker 5: confused because I thought preseason was to look at what

563
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Speaker 5: the team has and to go forward from that. And

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Speaker 5: what I'm seeing with all the comments on the Bills

565
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 5: mafia and everything, get rid of McDermott and do this

566
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Speaker 5: and do that, And I think that's bullcraft because this

567
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Speaker 5: is a time that they need to see who's going

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Speaker 5: to work for them and what's not going to work?

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Speaker 5: Thank you?

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Speaker 2: Yep, sure, problem work, working out the kinks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, people who say stuff like that at this point

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00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: of the season are not to be taken seriously, and

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Speaker 1: they would probably tell you that too when they sober up.

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Speaker 1: So they they're not they're not going to fire Sean

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Speaker 1: McDermott over losing to the Chicago Bears in Game one

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Speaker 1: of the preseason thirty three to six on a season

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00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: when they've had the most turnover in his tenure. So yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones and go to butcher

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Speaker 2: on the side we got for his butcher.

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Speaker 6: First of all, gentlemen, it's so it's a pleasure to

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00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 6: talk to you guys. And Steve sober up. That's the

582
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Speaker 6: blind for the day. But anyway, I just really want

583
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Speaker 6: to say about a couple of things. Number one, the

584
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 6: topic of what Unich needs to show something today. It

585
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Speaker 6: means come Saturday, this offense. You know, I really, you know,

586
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Speaker 6: I love Joe. Joe was a good coach. I just

587
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 6: need Joe to go ahead and start putting something together.

588
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 6: But it gets some continuity. I mean, leave Josh out

589
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 6: here for a minute, you know, put your personnel in

590
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 6: there do some basic vanilla plays, but the offensive line

591
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Speaker 6: had to get some continuity. This is probably gonna be

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Speaker 6: a last preseason game if they play viral starters for

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Speaker 6: the regular season. Now, I'm applaud Sewan for letting the

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Speaker 6: starters play in the first preseason game, now the second

595
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 6: Prizets game, But we got to do a little bit

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Speaker 6: more now on the second thing, and I think so

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Speaker 6: much that's taking my call is you and I, Steve, Maddie, Chris,

598
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Speaker 6: we spoke about this back in January February before the draft,

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Speaker 6: and I stated when we were talking about as you

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Speaker 6: already know, I wanted I wanted my man the center

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Speaker 6: for Oregon at that time, but I said that they

602
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Speaker 6: need to get a pick later on in the rounds

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Speaker 6: to get a quarterback that they can develop for the future,

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Speaker 6: to back and the a backup. They didn't do it

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Speaker 6: at the time at that time. You are you guys

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Speaker 6: already know I liked that Joe Milton Nott sent a

607
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Speaker 6: see and I still believe that Buffalo could have got

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Speaker 6: him in the fifth, sixth round. We don't worry about

609
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Speaker 6: this past that. The bottom line is now we're in

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Speaker 6: a situation where we have Trubisky and I like I

611
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 6: like them. You know, now we got to do what

612
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 6: you and that's fine. But the same time, the pressure

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00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 6: what Grady is now is to put Josh in the

614
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Speaker 6: best situation because behind him, you really don't have that much. Well,

615
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 6: you know, Josh gonna play it just like I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I think he told you Chris, or he told Sala

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Speaker 6: somebody that he said he's not gonna run that much

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Speaker 6: anymore like he used to. But anyway, the bottom line

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Speaker 6: is back to the topic, is that I really believe

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Speaker 6: the all sens of side of the ball, and Brady

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Speaker 6: and his staff needs to dial up some things to

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Speaker 6: get some continuity because this is gonna be the last

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Speaker 6: game they played for the record season. Anyway, I love

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Speaker 6: you guys, thanks so much saying my call. I love

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Speaker 6: him as j I love WJI fans. Yeah, I definitely know.

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Speaker 6: I love you guys, and you guys have out standing today,

627
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Speaker 6: my brothers. I love thanks.

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Speaker 2: Thanks.

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Speaker 1: But here's what I think about that and all that's,

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Speaker 1: you know, all that valid stuff. Here's where I think

631
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Speaker 1: about You're right about Joe Brady and also Bobby Babbage

632
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Speaker 1: on the other side of the ball. There's like, there's

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Speaker 1: no doubt that the coaching staff could have really really

634
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: helped their offense and defensive production out in that game

635
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: last week against the Bears if they had wanted to,

636
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Speaker 1: or maybe they did want to, And McDermott said, no,

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Speaker 1: you don't. You're not gonna do it, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: I remember it vividly. It's a it's a common theme

639
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: in this preseason where you got teams that they just

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Speaker 1: you know, all we had to do was call this

641
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Speaker 1: one play and it's you know, you know they you

642
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: just don't give the players the toolbox they need to

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00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: attack the scheme they're facing on a preseason game. That's

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00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: a problem, and that's why you get games that look ugly.

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00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: Forget about playing well or not playing well or effort on.

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00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: The games are horrible because you don't have your coaching

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Speaker 1: staff fully engaged in trying to win. That's a problem

648
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: and it looks like it right, And that's what Butcher said,

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Speaker 1: Joe Brady, Bob Babbitt, Sean McDermot. They got to give

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Speaker 1: these guys some help to help win. And here's the thing, Yes,

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Speaker 1: they could do that, and they know it. They know it.

652
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: If they do do that? Why and if they don't

653
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: do that deliberately, why.

654
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 2: They don't do it? Because I think many coaches across

655
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: the league believe they can better evaluate a player if

656
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 2: they're not, for example, scheming a wide receiver open. What

657
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: can this guy do on his own when it's hard,

658
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 2: when it's one on one and he's going against that

659
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 2: corner who's got a better physical skill set than him.

660
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 2: What can he do in that situation? And if you

661
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: scheme him open because you're running a rub route or

662
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: something like that, you're not gonna find out. So that's

663
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 2: part of the reason they don't scheme and game plan

664
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: in the preseason.

665
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: Now if they do. If they do game plan, what

666
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 1: do they gain? They get a preseason win, that's awesome.

667
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: If they don't one, yet, they want to see guy

668
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: compete and they can evaluate guys better with vanilla play

669
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: calling it, they can compete the guys, don't they guys

670
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 1: don't have to read keys. They know what they're doing

671
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 1: and they're gonna go do it now. Also, you don't

672
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: want to show anything. You don't want anybody to know

673
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: what your philosophy is gonna be, because once you start

674
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: choosing plays that are going to be successful. Teams will

675
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: understand what you think of your own players. And if

676
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 1: the Bills like their players, they're not gonna show them anyway.

677
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: They're not gonna show anything. And you know that they

678
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: know what they've got. I'm pretty sure they like a

679
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: lot of the guys on their teams. Certainly they need

680
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: to find some things out about some of them. But

681
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: i mean, Josh ran the ball one time last last week,

682
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: Slid didn't get touched, and they pulled him out so

683
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: fast he didn't even he didn't even have time to

684
00:36:55,719 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: change hats. So the coaching staff is not caught up now.

685
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: Certainly they were disappointed in the effort and the way

686
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: and the result and all that, but they are not

687
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 1: caught up in trying to scheme guys open and win

688
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: these games. They want to give these guys exactly the

689
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: plays they have talked about giving them so they can

690
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: see him compete. That's it. That's that's the end of

691
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 1: the story. And as far as taking a quarterback in

692
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: the draft and development, dude, you're not gonna need another

693
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: quarterback for ten years, ten more years, Well.

694
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: He was saying he's he's saying it. Under the guys

695
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: of get a good backup. That's what he was saying.

696
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: No, there ain't no, there's no good backup. This just

697
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: in there is no good backup. Nick Foles is an aberration.

698
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: I just hit the week We had this conversation with

699
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: Frank Reich over the weekend, who loves Nick Foles and

700
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: and got him to a super Bowl and won it.

701
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: And then my boy Frank reminded me he won two

702
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: playoff games for Jim. I was like, yeah, okay, there's two.

703
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: I'll give you. I'll give you and I'll give Nick Foles.

704
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: So that's two, right.

705
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a.

706
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: Short list when you're when Pat Mahomes goes down. Yeah,

707
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: has there's other Yeah, it was a pretty good defense.

708
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: It was Yeah, it was Haas and it was Bill Parcells.

709
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: It was Bill Belichick and Tom Coughlin on that staff. Okay,

710
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: so there's that. But you got you got that quarterback.

711
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: If if you lose Pat Mahomes, if you lose Josh Allen,

712
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: if you lose Lamar Jackson, if you lose Justin Herbert,

713
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: if you lose Joe Burrow, you're done. It don't matter

714
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: if you got Frank Raich or Nick Foles as your

715
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 1: backup quarterback. You're done, so don't.

716
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 7: I don't.

717
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: I'm not interested. I don't care if Mitch Trubisky plays.

718
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: You're talking about the rest of the season.

719
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, now Mitch can go in and play. I'm not

720
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: saying Mitch can't play at all. But you're not the

721
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: same team, right, Come on, don't. I'm not. I'm just

722
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: to waste any effort on thinking that you're gonna get

723
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: a guy who can do what Josh Allen does. That

724
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: guy is not around.

725
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think Butch was getting at that.

726
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 2: The way I interpreted what Butch was saying was he

727
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 2: would like to see the backup quarterback upgraded from what

728
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: it's been the last few years. I don't think he

729
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 2: exit to match Josh Allen because because he's obviously not

730
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: satisfied with what they've had at backup.

731
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: Course, that's because he wants the guy to play.

732
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 2: Well.

733
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: You don't want your backup quarterback to play, Butch, you

734
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: want your backup quarterback to help your number one quarterback

735
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: play better. That's why the that's his whole job. And

736
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Speaker 1: I did have that Frank conversationd with Frank too. Yes,

737
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: Frank Wright said, yeah, you're right, he goes that's his job.

738
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Speaker 1: His job is to Josh better, not play well when

739
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: he gets in there. His job is to be the

740
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: number one guy to help Josh play better. That's his job.

741
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: That's what uh Buchell's job is too, That's what Denucci's

742
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 1: job is. Now that this backup quarterback stuff ain't about

743
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 1: how the guy can play.

744
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to see sometimes I get it.

745
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: How did I start yelling?

746
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: When did I start very animated and excited? And that's okay?

747
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: What was it that set me off to you? Remember?

748
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 2: I love the passion.

749
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: I need some therapy.

750
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: You're okay. Let's go to the phones and give Steve

751
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: a break and go to Chris and Elma. What do

752
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: you got for us? Chris, Chris, you're with us?

753
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 8: All right?

754
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying no, he is not putting.

755
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: Chris on hold there. We'll go back to him in

756
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 2: a minute. We'll go to Rob in Connecticut next. What's

757
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: up Rob?

758
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 7: Good afternoon.

759
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Speaker 1: Steve.

760
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 7: You better check that blood pressure cuff. I don't want

761
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 7: it to float on you over there. It's always a

762
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 7: pleasure to reconnoy with you guys. Listen, one of the

763
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 7: things I was thinking about was I would like to

764
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 7: hear James Cook and Ray Davis threw off some chunk

765
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 7: yards in the next couple of preson preseason games. I

766
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 7: want to I want that yardage, you know, I want

767
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 7: a well balanced offense between the passing game and and

768
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 7: the running game. But yeah, definitely the running back production

769
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 7: I would like to uh hear more of. And speaking

770
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 7: of Chris, one of the things I wanted to ask

771
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 7: you was this past game, you did a great job.

772
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 7: I was listening to the whole thing and I was

773
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 7: able to They didn't black it out in my area,

774
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 7: which I was able to hear the whole thing. Now

775
00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 7: during the regular season, it gets blacked out and it's

776
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 7: very hard for me to like follow it on TV

777
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 7: now because the commentators never really talk about where the

778
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 7: ball is or whatever the case may be, So it's

779
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 7: hard for me to follow. That's why I like listening

780
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 7: to the radio. Is there any way and you might

781
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 7: not have the answer to this, but is there any

782
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 7: way that I can like here the games if it

783
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 7: is blacked out in my area to listen to you

784
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 7: when you call the games? Is there is there a

785
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 7: Connecticut I'm in Connecticut. I'm going to Connecticut.

786
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you should be able to listen on the

787
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: Bills app or the Odyssey app if you're outside the

788
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 2: Buffalo Western New York listening area, and that would be

789
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 2: the way to do it.

790
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 7: So all right, I appreciate that. Yeah, It's just like

791
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 7: and during the regular season last year, it would it

792
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 7: would start off, but then it would cut out and

793
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 7: I would never get to listen to it. I would

794
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 7: have to, you know, try to pay attention, uh.

795
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 6: To the TV.

796
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 7: I mean, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out,

797
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 7: you know, hey, you got four yards and then do

798
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 7: the math. But it's just the commentators talk too much.

799
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 7: I don't want to hear a commentator talking about this

800
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 7: is a guy that had a Scooby Doo lunchbox when

801
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 7: he was playing Pop Warner football. I want to know

802
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 7: what's going on with the game.

803
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 8: You know, you did a great And.

804
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: The thing too, is it's a different broadcast when you're

805
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: on TV because you can see it. We don't have

806
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: to tell you where the ball. You can look at

807
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: it and see. That's the difference, Rob, And that's why

808
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: TV broadcasts are so much different than radio and radio

809
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: does like Brownie and and Eric Eric bring a. You know,

810
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: it's a more rich information based broadcast than it is

811
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: on TV because on TV we could talk about.

812
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 2: Well the picture he's there for everybody watching. You can

813
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: see that's difficult for you, Rob because of your eyesight.

814
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: But yes, you're right.

815
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Speaker 7: I was just wonder why I get blacked out. I

816
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 7: could hear it during the preseason, but not during the

817
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 7: during the regular season. I'm like, why does it do that?

818
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: So you should so, just so you know, you go

819
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 2: to the Bill's app and in the bottom right corner

820
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: and you hit the more button and that'll take you

821
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 2: to the second page. And live radio is the third

822
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 2: thing on the list. And if you hit live radio

823
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 2: there you should be good.

824
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, sounds good. Thank you guys.

825
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: At the top of his call, he started out by

826
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: saying what he'd like to see James Cook and Ray

827
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: Davis not a big ask in the press. No, it's not.

828
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: And I'll say this too. Most people equal, and I

829
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: think maybe I've got it backwards, maybe they've got it right.

830
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: But here's the way I see it. This run pass balance.

831
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: If your run past balance, it's because you're beating the

832
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: stew out of people. It's a throwing league. If you're

833
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: run Dallas game, for example, if you're running the ball,

834
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: it's because you got a lead and you just want

835
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: that game to get over, and running the ball is

836
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: the most efficient way to run the clock. This in

837
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: this day and age, you throw the ball one third

838
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: at the time, and you you you throw the ball

839
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: two thirds at the time, you run it one third

840
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: at the time. So a run pass balance would mean

841
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 1: you're just running clocks out all the time.

842
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: I do wonder though, if the league is we know

843
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 2: the league is cyclical, yeah, and with so many light

844
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 2: defenses because they have light linebackers, super fast safeties to

845
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: try to keep up with passing games, does it does

846
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: the pendulum swing back a little bit towards the running

847
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 2: game to beat up on those smaller defenses and get

848
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 2: yards the powerway.

849
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll say this, though I know hardball is going

850
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: to do it the you know, so the you know,

851
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: the hammer and the nail kind of analogy that gets

852
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: used a lot. The problem is this in when you're

853
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: stopping the run in the NFL, it's more about discipline

854
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: and gap control than it is the physical overpowering of

855
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: your opponent, because what happens is you can run the

856
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: ball three downs in a row. All it takes is

857
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: one stop for zero and now you're now you've got

858
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: to make a different decision.

859
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 2: Uh.

860
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: And that's it's easier to do even with a lighter

861
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: box in the NFL, because those teams are so disciplined

862
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: about where they're supposed to fit in the run game.

863
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: They stop the run. They stopped the run. So unless

864
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: one team that you know, there's always an exception, you know.

865
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: And you know Derrick Henry, who's a you know, two

866
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pounds back right and fast run. He

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Speaker 1: tilts that scale a little bit, but that's you know,

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Speaker 1: he's only a hair bigger than most linebackers.

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Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here. When we come back, more

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Speaker 2: of your phone calls. Don't forget our number two. We've

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Speaker 2: got Eric Wood, my broadcast partner, joining us as well

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Speaker 2: as we take a look at the upcoming preseason game

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Speaker 2: to nominate someone today. Horrible break for Vikings first round

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Speaker 2: quarterback JJ McCarthy. They went in for the knee surgery

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Speaker 2: for his torn meniscus. It is a full meniscus repair,

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Speaker 2: And the Pride of Capistrano Beach, California is your starting

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Speaker 2: quarterback at least for now for the Minnesota Vikings one,

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Speaker 2: Sam Donald. Go get him Sam, who was.

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Speaker 1: Last seen on social media throwing a pick six in

887
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Speaker 1: practice yesterday. And I just said the ship before we

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Speaker 1: came on the air, And I don't know JJ McCarthy.

889
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Speaker 1: And certainly there's highlights of his preseason debut there, whether

890
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Speaker 1: we were just watching, but be prepared to to remember to

891
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: hear that JJ McCarthy. He was absolutely playing lights out

892
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Speaker 1: all through the preseason. It doesn't matter how he was.

893
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 1: They're gonna say, hey, he's gonna be great, because they're

894
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Speaker 1: gonna have to sell they got Sam Donald is their quarterback.

895
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Speaker 1: They're gonna be looking forward to JJ McCarthy coming back

896
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Speaker 1: and saving the franchise next year very quickly.

897
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Speaker 2: Here career record of twenty one and thirty five career

898
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Speaker 2: completion percentage for Sam Donald, fifty nine point seven percent,

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Speaker 2: sixty three career touchdowns, fifty six career interceptions.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 2: There, It is all right too.

902
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Speaker 1: I'm just I just know not that it's not true,

903
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Speaker 1: just because I have been watching, but it just seems

904
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Speaker 1: so gratuitous that now all of a sudden, JJ McCarthy

905
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: is gonna have me be sabotaged by this injury. When

906
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Speaker 1: he was the finger quotes crushing it in the preseason,

907
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Speaker 1: he was gonna be we'll see what he was gonna be,

908
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Speaker 1: the next c. J. Stroud. He was gonna be the

909
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Speaker 1: whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to U Joe in West Seneca. I think

911
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 2: we've talked enough about J. J.

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Speaker 8: McCarthy, Joe Chris, congratulations on getting job. Well deserved to

913
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Speaker 8: leave your a Hall of Famer I called before, I'm

914
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Speaker 8: gonna say it until you get in the canton what

915
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Speaker 8: I want to see.

916
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Speaker 6: Out of this.

917
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Speaker 9: And by the way, the people who want McDermott fired, like,

918
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Speaker 9: come on, what do you think the Bills are going

919
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 9: to start losing now that look at their total wins

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Speaker 9: over the last six years, and all I want to

921
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Speaker 9: see how this preseason game is These guys to win

922
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Speaker 9: the one on one battles, like Steve you said, to compete,

923
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Speaker 9: and then maybe somebody like Tim Tindell or that running back,

924
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Speaker 9: the rugby guy of running back taking one to the

925
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Speaker 9: house in the fourth quarter, the Bills will be fired.

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Speaker 9: All right, guys, great job, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Joe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's become a hallmark. We talk about

929
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Speaker 1: it every so often that you know, it's been forty

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Speaker 1: regular season games since the Bill lost a game by

931
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Speaker 1: more than six points. They're hard to beat. That's not

932
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Speaker 1: going to change. And that doesn't mean that's not going

933
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Speaker 1: to happen once this year where they do have a

934
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Speaker 1: bad game and they get beat by by ten points

935
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Speaker 1: or fourteen whatever. But they are a hard team to beat.

936
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Speaker 1: That takes really good coaching. That's what they've got. They've

937
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Speaker 1: had some turnover on their roster this year, but when

938
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Speaker 1: he got the job, Sean mcdermot's one of the tools

939
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Speaker 1: he brought to the table was his ability to develop

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Speaker 1: players and create a culture where every player that's in

941
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Speaker 1: the building plays their best and if that's the case,

942
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Speaker 1: as it has been for the last eight years, this

943
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Speaker 1: team is going to be just fine. Just like Rob

944
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Speaker 1: said or Joe said.

945
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Speaker 2: Break time for us here when we return, our number

946
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Speaker 2: two will begin with my broadcast partner, Eric Wood, who

947
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Speaker 2: joins us to discuss the game that was and what

948
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Speaker 2: might need to happen, Spinning it forward to preseason game

949
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Speaker 2: number two against Pittsburgh on Saturday, Eric Wood joining us

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Speaker 2: next here on One Bill's Live presented by Calida Hell,

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Speaker 2: it's Buffalo Bill's three.

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Speaker 1: This. This is One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we are our number two. On a Wednesday,

954
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Speaker 2: Chris Brown Steve past A Review pleased to re join

955
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Speaker 2: now Bill's Radio color Analy's former pro bocal center Eric Wood,

956
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Speaker 2: who is also the host of the Center on Buffalo

957
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Speaker 2: podcasts along with What's Next with Eric Wood as well. Wow,

958
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Speaker 2: he got two podcasts, man, I didn't even know you

959
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 2: had two, Holy cow.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, the What's Next one been on hold for a

961
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Speaker 10: little while. I did have that one running for about

962
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Speaker 10: three years. It was great learning from a bunch of

963
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Speaker 10: people after my career ended, and then now just really

964
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Speaker 10: focusing on the Center on Buffalo podcast.

965
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the one I'm seeing out on social all

966
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Speaker 2: the time. You're pumping it out, man, I'm killing it

967
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Speaker 2: all right. Well, you've heard the coach speak coming out

968
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Speaker 2: of the first preseason game, and you know, not the standard.

969
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 2: Bobby Babbage addressed the media this morning. He was asked

970
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Speaker 2: how'd you get on the wrong end of a thirty

971
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 2: three to six final? He said, fundamentals one word answer.

972
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Speaker 2: Would you tend to agree with that? Is it as

973
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Speaker 2: simple as fundamentals or is there a sense of urgency

974
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 2: to mix in there? What do you think?

975
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:56,439
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: I mean to me, they came out, and you know,

977
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Speaker 10: if the Bills left Josh in a little bit longer,

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Speaker 10: I fully think they would have continued to move up

979
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Speaker 10: and down the field. They pulled him out. He was

980
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Speaker 10: two for three in the game. The run game didn't

981
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 10: get going with the starters. That's not a huge concern

982
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 10: for me, Josh Allen said after the game. They only

983
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Speaker 10: had four run plays in for that game in Chicago.

984
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 10: Seemed to be very keyed in on those and so

985
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 10: not a huge concern for me. But I will say

986
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Speaker 10: whether it's fundamentals are simply just not being sharp. I

987
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Speaker 10: mean the amount of pre snab penalties in that game

988
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Speaker 10: were just off the charts. I know that that just

989
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Speaker 10: drives Sean McDermott up the wall, But that's the beauty

990
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Speaker 10: of these preseason games. You get to have a lot

991
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Speaker 10: of coachable and learning moments like those, and so they

992
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Speaker 10: continuously put themselves behind the chains with all those pre

993
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Speaker 10: snap penalties. And then you know, this is Chicago's second

994
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Speaker 10: preseason game, so some of those young guys that got

995
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Speaker 10: a lot of action, similar to the Bills, that was

996
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 10: their second preseason game action which can make a big

997
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 10: difference when you're transitioning into the NFL. So not a

998
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Speaker 10: ton of concern from me, you know, most the way

999
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Speaker 10: across the board. There are a good amount of new

1000
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Speaker 10: starters on this team, but with the core that the

1001
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Speaker 10: Bills had with Josh Allen and and the rest of

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00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 10: this cast, I'm not concerned at all after that first

1003
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Speaker 10: game and what their season projection will be.

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Speaker 1: How do you think having one full practice before this

1005
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: game against your opponent, how does that change things for

1006
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 1: the mindset going into these games.

1007
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 10: Well, you know, it's gonna be interesting to see how

1008
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Speaker 10: Sean McDermott handles this. Me and Chris were talking last

1009
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 10: week that it wouldn't surprise me, especially with Josh, to

1010
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Speaker 10: let him go against the first team Steelers defense in

1011
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 10: a bunch of specific situations, whether that's red zone, third downs,

1012
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 10: specific situations where you're not taking any shots on the

1013
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 10: quarterback and both teams are going to be guarded, and

1014
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Speaker 10: how they handle the opposing team's quarterbacks. So you get

1015
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 10: Josh Allen some great work, and it wouldn't surprise me

1016
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 10: to see him not play in this preseason game number two,

1017
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Speaker 10: But then have a number of your other starters and

1018
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Speaker 10: guys that are competing for spots. Those guys, i'd imagine

1019
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 10: we'll still play in the game. But when you head

1020
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Speaker 10: into a joint practice, you know a lot of times

1021
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Speaker 10: it's a heated situation, there's fights. With Sean McDermott and

1022
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Speaker 10: Mike Tomlin, i'd imagine that they'll coach these guys up beforehand, like, look,

1023
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 10: we're not out here looking for fights. That's only gonna

1024
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Speaker 10: probably hurt your chance of making this roster if you've

1025
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Speaker 10: got to embarrass us out there on the field by

1026
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Speaker 10: causing one of these big skirmishes that you know us

1027
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Speaker 10: media members.

1028
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 3: I was gonna say the media. But I say us

1029
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 3: media members like.

1030
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Speaker 10: The run with in these situations, so I'd imagine that

1031
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 10: they'll get some good productive work here tomorrow being Thursday,

1032
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 10: and then when it comes to the game, it wouldn't

1033
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Speaker 10: surprise me to see Josh Allen not be out there.

1034
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Speaker 3: But we'll see how Sean wants to handle.

1035
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 2: This, all right, So give us the players perspective here.

1036
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 2: What are the pros and cons of a joint practice?

1037
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 2: You know, whether you're an entrenched starter or a guy

1038
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Speaker 2: scraping to make the roster, give us the pros and

1039
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: cons there.

1040
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Speaker 10: Yeah, the biggest pro would be you're going against a

1041
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 10: guy in a different uniform. You get tired of going

1042
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 10: against the same guys over and over all the way

1043
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Speaker 10: through training camp, so you get another essentially training camp practice.

1044
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 10: Would you get guys in a different uniform and you

1045
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 10: can work against different schemes. You know, the Steelers run

1046
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 10: a different style of defense than the Bills do, so

1047
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Speaker 10: you're getting some great quality work against some different faces

1048
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Speaker 10: and guys in different uniforms. The cons would be you're

1049
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 10: not doing a whole lot of prep on the front end, So,

1050
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 10: especially for an offensive lineman. If I'm not familiar with

1051
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 10: these guys. Sometimes it can be a really tough matchup.

1052
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 10: The intensity ramps up a great deal to wear. You

1053
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 10: know up front, it's about as close to a game

1054
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 10: like situation as you're going to get in a practice setting,

1055
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 10: So it's very intense, which I guess increases the risk

1056
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 10: of injury. And then the con would be you have

1057
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 10: a lot of guys competing for roster spots. You have

1058
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 10: ninety man rosters, fifty three guys are going to make

1059
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,919
Speaker 10: each team, and so guys are fighting tooth and nail

1060
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 10: to make the team, which can often lead to those

1061
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 10: skirmish is that we see out there now. I'm thinking

1062
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Speaker 10: with it just being one joint practice, it probably won't

1063
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Speaker 10: get as chippy as they do when you go to

1064
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 10: maybe three practices in a joint practice setting. But I

1065
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Speaker 10: guess we'll see tomorrow.

1066
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: You've seen all off season the transition take place from

1067
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: Mitch Morris to Connor McGovern. You saw the enthusiasm that

1068
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: Connor McGovern took over with him and he was excited

1069
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: about it. Now we've got this this spot where you

1070
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: got Connor McGovern, you've got Cedric Van pran Grainger, and

1071
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Speaker 1: you've got we'll clap. We'll clap with some chops in

1072
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: the NFL two and Alec Anderson has played center, So

1073
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: you got all you know, Yeah, four guys and aside,

1074
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: well aside from nobody. You gotta have a center on

1075
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: your roster at all times. Even if there's a bus

1076
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: wreck on the way to the stadium and you're off,

1077
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: you gotta have somebody snap the ball. Give us your

1078
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: your philosophy on how they're gonna handle this. I mean,

1079
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: they got they got four guys that can get it done.

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Speaker 1: What's your philosophy.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it looks to me like Connor McGovern's going to

1082
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 10: be the guy. And I appreciate you guys recognizing that

1083
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 10: center is the most positionive, that's the most.

1084
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 3: Important position in football.

1085
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 10: So I appreciate you guys recognizing that first and foremost.

1086
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 10: To me, it looks like Connor McGovern's going to be

1087
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 10: the guy heading into the season. His snaps look fine

1088
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 10: in the game, didn't seem to be any issues. But

1089
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 10: I think that's something that they want to continue to

1090
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 10: see in the preseason game, just get them more and

1091
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 10: more comfortable. Josh Allen had worked with Mitch Morris. They

1092
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 10: had all that chemistry for so long, they want to

1093
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 10: make sure that there's not gonna be any center quarterback

1094
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 10: exchange issues heading into the season. Alec Anderson I mentioned

1095
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 10: when he was in the game with the with the twos,

1096
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:42,919
Speaker 10: you know his ball was coming back a little hot.

1097
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 10: Sometimes quarterbacks, you know, if I was ever snapping it

1098
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 10: a little too fast, they would say, hey, that makes

1099
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 10: it a little harder for me to catch. Sometimes I'm

1100
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 10: gonna fumble with the ball back there if you're if

1101
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 10: you're throwing it back there too hard. But you know,

1102
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 10: every every center is different in how they do it.

1103
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 10: And to me, one of the guys that stood out

1104
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 10: to me when I was kind of looking back at

1105
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 10: some of the tape with Cedric van Granger, who I've

1106
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 10: been excited about, I thought his tape at Georgia was

1107
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 10: incredible and he looks like a guy that could really

1108
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 10: handle himself. Now he's got a ton of SEC experience,

1109
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 10: he's been playing a lot of big time football, so

1110
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 10: that makes your transition to the NFL a touch easier.

1111
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 10: But I thought I thought he looked really good out

1112
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 10: there when he got his action last Saturday against the Bears.

1113
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 10: So they go and then will clap has done it

1114
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 10: in the NFL, so you've seen that on film.

1115
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 3: To me, it looks like.

1116
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 10: The five starters are entrenched on that offensive line. If

1117
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,919
Speaker 10: there became issues, you always feel comfortable bumping McGovern back

1118
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 10: to guard with Edwards over there. And then it becomes

1119
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 10: who do you like him the rest of them? Is

1120
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 10: it Vamparan Granger? Is it Alec Anderson? But I don't

1121
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 10: think the Bills are going to get to that point.

1122
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 10: I truly think they like what they have in mc govern.

1123
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 2: We had a question that got tweeted in from a listener.

1124
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 2: They said, keep hearing about the league having trouble with

1125
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 2: deep balls due to cover two defenses? Why is that

1126
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 2: if the Bills run the ball enough efficiently enough with

1127
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 2: the short pass defense as adjust The short answer is yes,

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Speaker 2: But is it more complicated than that?

1129
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Speaker 10: Eric, Yeah, And it's not necessarily even just Cover two defense.

1130
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 10: It's that two deep defense, which oftentimes turns into Cover

1131
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 10: four where you have four guys deep with the corners

1132
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 10: and a bail technique with safeties over the top to

1133
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 10: try and take away those deep balls. Me and Chris

1134
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 10: talked about it in the pregame that at some point

1135
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 10: we're going to see a fundamental switch back to more

1136
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 10: twelve personnel, maybe even having more fullbacks in the game.

1137
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 10: If defenses just keep getting lighter and lighter. And think

1138
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 10: back to the Cowboys game last year when they decided

1139
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 10: to put a safety in the box and run nickel

1140
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 10: defense but essentially a four to one defense with only

1141
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 10: one true linebacker on the field, and the Bills just

1142
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 10: ran the ball down their throat. And that's what offenses

1143
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 10: can do if you continue to stay in looks like that.

1144
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 10: So you know, those kind of positionless players at the

1145
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 10: second level, those linebackers that can cover the former safeties

1146
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 10: that are now playing linebackers. Those guys are valuable because

1147
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 10: they could play the run and the pass. But at

1148
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 10: some point, I feel like there's got to be a

1149
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 10: fun mental shift back to Okay, we're gonna keep you honest.

1150
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 10: If you're gonna sit in small defense, we're gonna you know,

1151
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 10: we're gonna pound you up the middle, if you're gonna

1152
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 10: keep your safety high and leaves you more susceptible to

1153
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 10: those bubble screens. And heck, we saw Curtis Samuel Steele

1154
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 10: what thirteen fourteen yards in about a second and that

1155
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 10: showed what kind of quickness he has on the outside.

1156
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 10: So offenses are gonna combat it. But you know, that's

1157
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 10: where you're seeing a lot of these sustained drys for

1158
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 10: touchdowns for the Bills these last couple of years because

1159
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 10: teams are saying, look, Josh's got one of the biggest

1160
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 10: arms in the league, and especially with Gabe Davis and

1161
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 10: Diggs could take the top off the defense too. Okay,

1162
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 10: now we got to keep our safety high. And we've

1163
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 10: seen Josh develop into a more discipline passer in just

1164
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 10: taking what's more underneath.

1165
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting too because all these these changes

1166
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: and the trends that happened in the league. And I

1167
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: don't want to I don't want to sound like a

1168
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: like an old player, but I'm an old player and

1169
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: that's what it comes down to. You got a player

1170
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: that's special. The Bills come out in two linebackers, five dbs,

1171
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: and for all during Leslie Fraser's time, they never you

1172
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 1: couldn't get him out of it because they had a

1173
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: special player in Tarren Johnson. He'd step up take on

1174
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 1: a pulling guard at five ten, one ninety or whatever

1175
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: it is he is. He was scrappy and competitive enough

1176
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 1: to do it. It's about your players giving you the

1177
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: opportunity to do what you want to do defensively and

1178
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: something that the other team can't out match up. So

1179
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: that's really what we're looking at here with this Bills team,

1180
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: all new players, different skill sets. How can we get

1181
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: into a personnel group defensively or offensively where they can't

1182
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: outmatch us? And I guess that's what my question is

1183
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 1: to you offensively. Do you see any any possibility possible

1184
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: personnel grouping off the top of your head, like, which

1185
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: guys are gonna be a matchup impossibility?

1186
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 3: Well, I think that's their twelfth personnel and we'll look.

1187
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 3: We lost St.

1188
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 10: Austin Knox early in season that risk injury, and even

1189
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 10: before he went on IR he was really affected with

1190
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 10: that rice which hurt his blocking ability and then he

1191
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 10: had a few uncharacteristic drops. I feel like was likely

1192
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 10: because of that risk injury. So you know, for the

1193
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 10: Bills coming out in that twelve personnel package, and even

1194
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 10: Reggie Gilliam last year, they would use him, put him

1195
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 10: in the game. Maybe try and dictate your personnel defensively. Okay, well,

1196
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 10: this is our fullback but they also feel comfortable putting

1197
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 10: him in the slot at times.

1198
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 3: We even saw that in the preseason game the other day.

1199
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Speaker 10: So being able to use some of those bigger pieces,

1200
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 10: especially that twelve personnel, and then also using Reggie gilliam

1201
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 10: to more dictate to the defense. The Bills run six

1202
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 10: tozer linement as much as anyone in the NFL as

1203
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 10: well to where they can put an extra offensive lineman

1204
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 10: on the field and try and dictate what you're going

1205
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 10: to do.

1206
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 3: But I feel like, especially.

1207
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 10: If those top two tight ends can stay healthy, that's

1208
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 10: a formation and that's a personnel that they can really

1209
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 10: dictate to the defense. And then when you consider how

1210
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 10: much speed they have on the outside right now with

1211
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 10: Shakir and adding Curtis Samuel out there, Keon Coleman, and

1212
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 10: you look at those guys on the outside, plus Adulton Kincaid,

1213
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 10: who is a great receiver himself, they can dictate personnel

1214
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 10: wise at times how you're going to line up. And

1215
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 10: then oftentimes, and I even felt like this when I

1216
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 10: was playing, when we would spread out the defense and

1217
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 10: not let them pack the box, oftentimes that was when

1218
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 10: we could run the ball the easiest. So it's not always, Hey,

1219
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 10: let's get bigger and then run the ball oftentimes, and

1220
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 10: me and Chris talk about this on the broadcast. Often

1221
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 10: get bigger and make them pack in the defense, and

1222
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 10: then you try and take your shots down the field.

1223
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, last one from me, Eric, We were disappointed in

1224
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 2: the production of the run game in preseason game number one.

1225
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 2: Knowing you're probably still not game planning for Pittsburgh, how

1226
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:45,439
Speaker 2: do you anticipate the coaching staff and the players kind

1227
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 2: of improving the production in that area. I mean, it

1228
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 2: doesn't seem like a big ask, but how do you

1229
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 2: see them going about doing it in a preseason setting.

1230
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's not going to take a lot to improve,

1231
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 10: especially the running back production from last game. It just

1232
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 10: wasn't there. And you know, it's timing stuff. It's getting

1233
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 10: fits on double teams and getting enough movement where the

1234
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 10: pullers can get around you. It's getting to the second

1235
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 10: level of the defense. And Chicago is filling downhill extremely fast,

1236
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 10: even when you know there wasn't penetration up front. The

1237
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 10: linebackers are making the play for one or two yards,

1238
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 10: and so it's this goes back to Bobby Babbage's original point,

1239
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 10: where it's the fundamentals. I thought one of the biggest

1240
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 10: thing in the game was just not being sharp and

1241
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 10: constantly hurting yourself down a distance wise with pre snap penalties.

1242
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 10: But then you get back to the fundamentals. The fundamentals

1243
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 10: is what's gonna help this run game. And you know,

1244
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 10: and I'm not gonna say that, you know, David Edwards

1245
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 10: coming in at left guard, you know, the combinations at

1246
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 10: left guard and center are different. At left tackle and

1247
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 10: left guard are different. And then with McGovern switching in,

1248
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 10: it becomes different combinations With Osiris and McGovern. I don't

1249
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 10: think that's a huge issue because they've had some time

1250
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 10: under task between the spring with the start of fall camp.

1251
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 10: But yes, Sean McDermott, the offensive coaches are going to

1252
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 10: put a heavy emphasis on It wouldn't surprise me to

1253
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 10: see an uptick in the run game this week.

1254
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, with the run uptick in the run game, how

1255
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: do you get a down tick in the pre snap penalties?

1256
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 1: Cause I get it. I mean I was a player too,

1257
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 1: and you get out there and you're thinking about because

1258
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 1: it's all new, and you're trying to think about what

1259
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: you're supposed to do and how well you're going to

1260
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 1: do it and what the guy you're doing against, and

1261
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you're you know, you're off

1262
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 1: a half a step too quick. All that stuff's going on.

1263
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 1: What kind of message can a NFL head coach give

1264
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 1: a team in this state? It's ninety guys. You got

1265
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 1: a lot of young guys that are busting a gut

1266
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 1: to try and make it. They got all this stuff

1267
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: going on in their head. I mean, how do you

1268
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 1: cut through the fog and say, hey, stop jumping off sides?

1269
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, tell them to relax a little bit.

1270
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 10: Hey, look, you have the talent to make the play,

1271
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 10: whether it's defensively, you have the speed to make the play.

1272
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 10: You don't need to get a jump on the snap.

1273
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 10: And then offensively, it's about staying focused. It's about communicating.

1274
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 10: The pre snap penalty on Ray Davis was a first

1275
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 10: timer for me. And you know, the Bears got in

1276
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 10: a six up look and oftentimes on passing down you'll

1277
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:11,959
Speaker 10: see that running back cheat up into the line. It'll

1278
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 10: help with stunts and twists. And I guess his helmet

1279
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 10: broke the plane of the center's hip, which makes him

1280
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 10: a now an offensive line and creates an illegal formation.

1281
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 10: I've never seen that called once. I'm not sure if

1282
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 10: that was an emphasis heading into the season where defense

1283
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 10: coordinators are complaining that, look, these running backs are getting

1284
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 10: too tight to the ball.

1285
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 3: But I've never seen that call.

1286
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 10: And poor Ray Davis, he thinks he's doing a perfect

1287
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 10: job where he gets up in the line of scrimmage

1288
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 10: and they have decent pass protection and then all of

1289
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 10: a sudden pre snap penalty. Again, but it's about settling

1290
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 10: it in and it's about communication. And then, like you said, Steve,

1291
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Speaker 10: you get in that first action and the amount of

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Speaker 10: just illegal formations where guys weren't sure who was supposed

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Speaker 10: to be honor off the line of scrimmage. They'll iron

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Speaker 10: that out this week. Maybe it wasn't as much of

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Speaker 10: a point of emphasis. Maybe they took it for granted

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Speaker 10: a little too much that these guys understood those concepts,

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Speaker 10: And I'd imagine Sean and his crew will have that

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Speaker 10: cleaned up for this week.

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Speaker 2: All right, Eric, thanks for the insight. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you out there in Pittsburgh on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Yup, sounds good. I'll see guys soon.

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Speaker 2: All right. That's Eric wood Bill's radio color analyst former

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Speaker 2: center host of the Bill Centered on Buffalo podcast. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: we'll be calling the game on Saturday, seven pm kickoff,

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Speaker 2: the only night preseason game for the Bills this summer.

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Speaker 2: That's a long day, Yeah, especially waiting that long for

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Speaker 2: a preseason game. It's like, let's get to it, man,

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Speaker 2: let's go.

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Speaker 1: That one o'clock Saturday thing was money. Yes, that is

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Speaker 1: a because it has been obviously for television reasons as

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Speaker 1: to primetime is they call it primetime for a reason.

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Speaker 1: So all during my career and even since my career,

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Speaker 1: for decades, they always put these preseason games on night

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Speaker 1: because they have a local contract with a local affiliate

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Speaker 1: and they know that more people are going to be

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Speaker 1: at home to watch these games, so they put them

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Speaker 1: on primetime. All these preseason games much better at one o'clock,

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Speaker 1: much better at one o'clock for everybody, which.

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Speaker 2: Is another appointment time that fans are accustomed to as well.

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Speaker 1: That's right for NFL anyway. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, although it's

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Speaker 1: on you know, it was on Saturday this week. But

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm a huge fan of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, your creature habits, Steve, I get it.

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Speaker 1: I'm a creature of some kind.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what position group still has some to prove this preseason?

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Speaker 2: You let us know eight oh three oh five point

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Speaker 2: fifty one eight and eight five fifty two, five point

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Speaker 2: fifty those are the numbers to get on board. Got

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Speaker 2: open lines for you there. We will crack open the

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Speaker 2: tweet sheet, though I haven't done that yet. And Andrew

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Speaker 2: on the tweet sheet says, I would still say safety reason,

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Speaker 2: there's no dynamic duo back there anymore, so we need

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Speaker 2: to see who will step up. Tweet sheet brought to

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Speaker 2: you by Corrigan Moving Systems, official equipment moving company of

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. Safety Steve, I get it.

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Speaker 1: That's what we said. That's what I say. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's I think they need reps.

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Speaker 2: They need reps, and I think for the coaches they

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Speaker 2: need a little bit more of a defined answer at

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Speaker 2: the position, and not just with who are our starters

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Speaker 2: gonna be, but who are our two is gonna be?

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Speaker 1: And how are they going to a case of injury?

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Speaker 1: Are they gonna play special teams? And I'll say this

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01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: too now, Taylor Rapp has played well. We said that earlier,

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Speaker 1: but you gotta you want to see it, you know,

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Speaker 1: you want to see those And who's Taylor Rep Gonna

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01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: play with? Is it gonna be DeMar or is it

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Speaker 1: gonna be Mike Edwards or is it gonna be Cole Bishop.

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Speaker 1: Who's it gonna be? And when you find that out,

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Speaker 1: then you gotta get it. That's a it's a position

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Speaker 1: that is played from the neck up. Because you've got

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Speaker 1: a ton of fantastic athletes out there. Safeties don't have

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01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 1: to be that because all they they need to play

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Speaker 1: the game from the neck up, not the neck down.

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Speaker 1: And that's why it's so important for them to see

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01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 1: it and experience it together, talk about it, have conversations

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01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 1: about it. How can we play it better? What should

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Speaker 1: we have done? What could we have done? What are

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Speaker 1: the possibilities? And you gotta go. You gotta go through

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Speaker 1: it to get to that point and sore and they're

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Speaker 1: standing over there. You got two guys over there in

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Speaker 1: baseball caps watching.

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Speaker 2: What position group still has something to prove this preseason?

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01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,799
Speaker 2: David on the tweet, she says wide receiver, no stars,

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Speaker 2: no true number one rookie little work with Allen offensive line,

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Speaker 2: new center, tough showing in the preseason defensive line, is

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Speaker 2: von Miller back? Who else is stepping up? That is

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Speaker 2: a that's a really fair question for the defensive line. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I mean everybody's been asking, is von Miller back? But

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Speaker 2: that second question is probably a better one. Who else

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Speaker 2: is stepping up here? Now? Ed did it last year

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Speaker 2: with a nine and a half sack season and led

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Speaker 2: the team in tackles for a loss as well.

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Speaker 1: I believe.

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Speaker 2: Who's doing that this year? Because you need you're gonna

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Speaker 2: need somebody else to have that kind of a year.

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Speaker 1: I think I would like to see Greg Rousseau step

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Speaker 1: it up just another step. He has gotten better every year,

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Speaker 1: no question, And the only time he's ever taken a

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Speaker 1: step back is when he tried to play through injury.

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Speaker 1: He's always available now, sometimes to his detriment, like I said,

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Speaker 1: because he played with a high ankle and just kept

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01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: going through it and did not play as well as

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Speaker 1: he did healthy, not even close, and that was a problem.

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Speaker 1: But when he's healthy, he has always gotten better. I'd

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01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 1: love to see that happen. Aj Panessa off a new

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01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 1: contract extension. You would like to think he has, you know,

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Speaker 1: is the kind of person that would want to say, Okay,

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01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna show him, you know, earn my cam.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna show him I deserve it, ed I can.

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Speaker 1: I expect ed to have another really good year like

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Speaker 1: he did last year, perhaps even better day. Kwon Jones,

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Speaker 1: if he stays healthy, he's he's always a force. But

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Speaker 1: then you're getting into some question marks. Casey two Hill

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01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 1: has has had a good camp, but nondescript. Javon Solomon

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Speaker 1: has been a guy. I've been watching this stuff. I'd

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Speaker 1: like to see some tangible evidence that I'm not the

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Speaker 1: only one who sees it. Kingsley, Jonathan, same thing, he's

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Speaker 1: been here. It's kind of time for him to be

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Speaker 1: like that third year let's go kind of thing. And

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01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 1: of course Vaughn, but I've I've been on the Von train,

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Speaker 1: and Vaughn's gonna be here and he's gonna help. And

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Speaker 1: but you know, we're talking about other people. So that's

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Speaker 1: where that's where we're at. The ones we don't know

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Speaker 1: about Javon Solomon, Kingsley, Jonathan, Casey two Hill, those are

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Speaker 1: the ones that are kind of we'll see. We'll see

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Speaker 1: Dwayne Carter, all right, I'll want I'll give him a chance.

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Speaker 1: We'll see, you know.

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Speaker 2: Let's squeeze in David and Tonawanda before the break. Here,

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Speaker 2: what do you got for us? David, you're on one

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live.

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Speaker 11: Hey, gentlemen, thank you for thinking of my call. I

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Speaker 11: did just want to basically say, I want to see

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Speaker 11: more in the in their running games. Uh, looking at

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01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 11: last game, it did look like the look like the

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Speaker 11: other team kind of stuffed us in that running game completely,

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01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 11: and and see if we can see if they can

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01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 11: be able to do what they did last year, putting

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Speaker 11: them on the outside and using them as like a

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Speaker 11: wide receiver. Plus, I want to see I want to

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Speaker 11: see this next game if if they can get a

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Speaker 11: lot of these wide receivers out there, see see what

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01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:48,799
Speaker 11: type of deep threat we have, what we can basically

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01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 11: be able to use deep threat wise with with some

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Speaker 11: of these players. I just feel like we haven't really

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Speaker 11: thrown that ball down down the field like Alan's used

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01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 11: to see exactly what type of year that we could

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Speaker 11: possibly have and if there's a chance of do we

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Speaker 11: need to possibly call somebody in to be that number

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Speaker 11: one wide receiver?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'd be surprised if they go that route,

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Speaker 2: primarily because they don't have a lot of money to

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Speaker 2: spend I mean, I think in the case of an injury,

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Speaker 2: they would do something.

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Speaker 1: But I Josh didn't throw the ball deep. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean no, I mean, I see what you're saying, David.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. I mean, they didn't. They purposely

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Speaker 1: didn't do that, you know, I mean they they're not

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01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 1: gonna they have I think they like their group that

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01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 1: they have. They're not gonna bring anybody new in. Don't

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01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 1: panic because you don't see a guy doing this or

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01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:47,560
Speaker 1: a guy doing that. They're not asking him to do that.

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01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:50,719
Speaker 1: That's the whole problem with getting beat thirty three to six.

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01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 1: You're not letting your guys play. You're not giving them

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01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,680
Speaker 1: what they need to win. You're making it hard on

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01:15:56,720 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 1: yourself deliberately. They're not You're not throwing the deep ball deep.

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01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 1: You're not taking the lid off the defense. You're not

1448
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 1: asking your speed guys to run fast. What you are

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01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 1: asking for is just for some effort. And that's why

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01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: Brownie and I and Eric Wood and another and Sean

1451
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 1: McDermott say, and ain't our standard. You gotta you gotta

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01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 1: compete one on one. That's that's what this whole exercise

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01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 1: for the next couple of weeks is about so don't

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01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 1: this number one wide receiver and throw We didn't throw

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01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 1: it deep at all. Yeah, they they didn't call that that.

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01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 1: You can't get mad at Josh, we're not throwing it deep.

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01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 1: And they didn't throw it deep. Not because nobody's fast.

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01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 1: They threw it deep. Maybe because they got twenty guys

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01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 1: that are fast and ny baba know that's more likely.

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Speaker 1: That's more likely. So don't get caught up in this. Well,

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Speaker 1: we didn't even try to throw the deep ball. Yeah,

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01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 1: that's right, we didn't. That's right. It was probably it

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01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 1: was on purpose. So just you know, just look at

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01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 1: the guys. Look at him on a on a micro level,

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01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 1: not a macro level. On a macro level, the effort

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01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,799
Speaker 1: wasn't good enough. But on a micro level, there's guys

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01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:10,440
Speaker 1: in there that are playing pretty good. Yeah, Gable Stevenson

1468
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 1: had a pass rush in there the other day that

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01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, look at that. You know, that's

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01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 1: kind of thing you got to watch for.

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Speaker 2: Individual evaluation. That's probably the best way to go in

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Speaker 2: the preseason. And then you're not pulling your hair out.

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01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 2: Break time for us when we come back. More of

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Speaker 2: your phone calls, Bill an old Forge, Kevin and Hamburg.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to you when we return here on One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live, presented by Collidea Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio,

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Speaker 2: all right. One Bill's Live is the show you are

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Speaker 2: listening to. Thanks for joining us. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 2: with you. Got to get back to the phones where

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Speaker 2: we're asking you what position group still has something to

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01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:55,719
Speaker 2: prove this preseason? To Bill in Old Forge?

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01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 1: Next, what's up?

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01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 2: Bill?

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Speaker 12: Hey, guys, as a fan, you want to see your

1485
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 12: first picks workout. You want to see a second contract.

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01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 12: My question is about Kyrie Elm when he came out

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01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 12: of college. The guy had all all the traits. Man,

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01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 12: he's got some size, he can hit. He played a

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01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,600
Speaker 12: lot of man, which, in my opinion, man is a

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01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 12: lot harder to play than his own. Zone's gonna be

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01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 12: more mental, be in the right spot, but you get

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01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 12: more help. Man. You're up in the guy's face. You're

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01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 12: kind of on an island and it's it's you and

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01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 12: the other guy, and that's it. My question is this,

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01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 12: why does it seem like he's struggling so much with

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01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 12: the zone coverage? And if it didn't work out with

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Speaker 12: this guy, Why didn't they know that when he's coming

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Speaker 12: out of college that he wasn't gonna be good with

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Speaker 12: zone rather than man. I hope it works out for

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Speaker 12: the guy. I like him. I liked it when they

1501
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:39,560
Speaker 12: picked him. Like I said, the dude's an athlete. It

1502
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 12: seems like you can do everything. What do you think

1503
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 12: with his struggles and do you think he could turn

1504
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 12: it around this year?

1505
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 2: Yeah? Fair question, Bill, Thanks for the call. You're right.

1506
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 2: I mean his strengths were in man coverage. I think

1507
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 2: in the two plus seasons he's been here, he has

1508
01:18:55,760 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 2: gotten better with his own concepts. I think Warnerbacks coach

1509
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 2: Jamil Ledaie has been a good addition for Elam's trajectory

1510
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 2: as a player. I see him often working one on

1511
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 2: one with him a lot, and you're right, he has

1512
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 2: elite physical traits. He is capable of the spectacular. He

1513
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 2: is that good physically. It's the consistency of his game

1514
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 2: that they need to materialize, and I thought it did

1515
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 2: materialize through training camp. I thought he was a very

1516
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 2: consistent player. I would argue he was probably one of

1517
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 2: the best defensive players on the field in training camp

1518
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 2: and made splash plays to boot so that has to

1519
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 2: carry into the preseason now that same level of consistency.

1520
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 2: I still don't think it's enough to unseat Rasul Douglas

1521
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:48,639
Speaker 2: or Christian Benford unless one of those guys falls flat

1522
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 2: on their face. But I think he's doing a lot

1523
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 2: more things right most of the time, and I think

1524
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 2: if that continues, there might be a role for him

1525
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 2: in a given week. Let's just say they're playing the

1526
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:05,759
Speaker 2: Jets in Week six and Garrett Wilson is torching every

1527
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 2: team in the league. I don't think it's out of

1528
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 2: the realm of possibility to think the game plan is

1529
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 2: gonna be Kayir, you got Wilson all day, just cover him.

1530
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 2: We'll figure out the rest because he can do that.

1531
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kayer is gonna play well. He's gonna play one

1532
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 1: thousand percent more than he has in the first three

1533
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 1: years or first two years of his career. He is

1534
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 1: He's a much better player this year than we've seen.

1535
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 1: He's gotten more opportunity this year than we've seen. He's

1536
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 1: played better than this year than we've seen. He is

1537
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:42,799
Speaker 1: pushing for a role in the starting lineup at corner

1538
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:47,600
Speaker 1: outside corner. I would anticipate by years end, if if

1539
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 1: the trends like they're standing now continue, Kayer is going

1540
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 1: to be a starting outside corner by year's end, either

1541
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 1: by earning it or he's going to be the first

1542
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 1: guy off the bench. Somebody will need to take a

1543
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:04,799
Speaker 1: break because both you know, because last year Christian Benford

1544
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 1: was nicked up, couldn't play, Douglas got hurting, Douglas got hurting.

1545
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 1: We could in those situations, Kyer's definitely going to be

1546
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 1: on the field if he's not already. So I think

1547
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 1: Kayer is finally gonna get some production for this defense,

1548
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 1: and I think it has a chance to be, like

1549
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 1: Brownie said, elite production. Yeah, I just I think highly

1550
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 1: of him, and I'm I'm puzzled by his absence from

1551
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:35,719
Speaker 1: the lineup in the last couple of years.

1552
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 2: Dude, Kevin and Hamburg next, what's up? Kevin?

1553
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 13: Hey, guys, how you doing? Thanks for taking my call. Sure,

1554
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:44,719
Speaker 13: I'd like to say about the end of the Twitter question,

1555
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:48,839
Speaker 13: it's still the backup quarterbacks thing still makes me shaky

1556
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:52,640
Speaker 13: because I saw Draubisky play and he still did not

1557
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 13: look good. I mean, and Denucci, I only know a

1558
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 13: little bit about him when he backed up Dak Prescott

1559
01:21:58,320 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 13: a couple of years ago, and Dak hand of Andrew

1560
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 13: in the twenty twenty COVID bubble year, right, and he

1561
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 13: didn't look fantastic. And I'm gonna say something's gonna probably

1562
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:10,599
Speaker 13: sound weird, but remember when the Stewards got Ridy Kenny Pickett,

1563
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 13: and he's a backup anyway. I would have loved to

1564
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 13: see the Bills take him as a backup because I

1565
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 13: think he would have been a trustworthy backup. He's a

1566
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 13: backup anyway, so I think he had been a little

1567
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 13: more trusty. He had been Mitch Tramisky or now the

1568
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 13: other guy's got a bad neck, so he needed a

1569
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 13: dependable backup. You know, he needed Frank Wright hopefully the

1570
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 13: way team did when he played.

1571
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 1: You know, Frank Reich, don't grow on trees. And you're right.

1572
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:39,679
Speaker 1: And I'll just say this and I'll say it again.

1573
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 1: I said it earlier in the show, Kevin, if your

1574
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 1: quarter if your starting quarterback goes down, you've got a

1575
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Pat Mahomes, Justin, Herbert Lamar, Jackson, Joe Burrow,

1576
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 1: C J. Stroud, go down the list best quarterbacks, Matt Stafford,

1577
01:22:54,479 --> 01:23:00,839
Speaker 1: Jared Goff. You're done, no matter how who you're quarterback

1578
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 1: is that from the rest of the from the rest

1579
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,680
Speaker 1: of the planet, there are no other quarterbacks that are

1580
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 1: gonna come in and give you the production. The guy

1581
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 1: you just lost is gonna give you. Your team's gonna change,

1582
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 1: your philosophy's gonna change, Your offense is gonna change because

1583
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 1: their skill sets are going to be different. That's just

1584
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 1: the way it is. You want a quarterback, and if

1585
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 1: you've got a guy like Josh Allen or one of

1586
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 1: those other guys, you do not care if that guy

1587
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 1: can play. That's secondary to the fact that you've got

1588
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 1: to have a guy who gets the guy that you

1589
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 1: don't want to get hurt better. Mich Trubisky's job won

1590
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 1: as backup quarterback is to help Josh play better than

1591
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 1: he's ever played. That's his job. That's his job. And

1592
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 1: I know there are fans that they go, no, you

1593
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 1: need a guy. No, you're not gonna find a guy

1594
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 1: like that. Guy doesn't exist, he doesn't He is not

1595
01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 1: out there. Nick Foles is retired, Frank Reich is a coach.

1596
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 1: I just thought of one that there's a there's three

1597
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 1: that we can think of out on the top of

1598
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:08,639
Speaker 1: our heads that would give us a shot. Steve Young,

1599
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 1: that doesn't count, Steve, Steve Young, Steve Young, you know

1600
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:22,600
Speaker 1: they're they're not there. Don't don't if if because I

1601
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 1: don't want to disrespect Mitch at all. But if Josh

1602
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 1: goes down, fold up your tent. You're gonna do yourself.

1603
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:34,679
Speaker 1: You're gonna win some game, maybe get you're talking long term, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1604
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 1: Mitch is beyond good enough to get you through the

1605
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 1: rest of the game if Josh goes down, and maybe

1606
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 1: give you a start or two. But if if Josh

1607
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,760
Speaker 1: goes down, you fold it up. That's the way it

1608
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:49,560
Speaker 1: is in Kansas City, That's the way it is in

1609
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 1: SANDYEG and LA. Both teams in l A, Baltimore, Cincinnati,

1610
01:24:56,120 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 1: Hoson everybody, Houston, Green Bay. And we saw in San Francisco.

1611
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 1: Same in San Francisco with Brock Party. And let me

1612
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 1: just say this, if Brock Purdy was in Buffalo, he'd

1613
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 1: be a backup. But he's not. He's starting. Yeah, so

1614
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:18,680
Speaker 1: you just don't. Yeah, No, I'm not up for it.

1615
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 1: I'm not up for the conversation. If Josh goes down,

1616
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 1: you may win some more games, you may even get

1617
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 1: to the playoffs with whoever, because you got a nice

1618
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 1: roster if it happens to the right. But if Josh

1619
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:33,639
Speaker 1: goes down long term, you forget it. And Mitch Trubisky

1620
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 1: is way more than adequate to get you out of

1621
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 1: a game and into one more or two more games.

1622
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 1: So you know that's where you're at. Mitch's job and

1623
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:49,560
Speaker 1: job one and Bouchelle and so with Danucci. Get Josh

1624
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 1: ready to play, help him, help him, that's it. That's

1625
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,639
Speaker 1: your job. It's not and to take reps in practice,

1626
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 1: No Josh will take him. You throw to the you

1627
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 1: throw to the number one DS. You know that's your

1628
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 1: job if you're if you're the backup quarterback, your job

1629
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 1: to make the number one guy his best.

1630
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:10,639
Speaker 2: Let's squeeze Ed in Rochester in here before the break?

1631
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 2: What do you got for his z Ed?

1632
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 14: Thanks a lot for taking my call. You guys are

1633
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 14: doing another great job. The comment time want to make

1634
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 14: is that before the exhibition game, there's a lot of

1635
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 14: talk about staying healthy, about avoiding injuries, and I think

1636
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 14: that's how the Bills were playing to a little bit

1637
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:35,720
Speaker 14: more cautious, whereas the Bears they were playing to win.

1638
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 14: They looked like they were playing to win and the

1639
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 14: Bills were playing more cautious. Yeah, the fundamentals weren't there

1640
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:46,639
Speaker 14: all the time, but still they didn't have the sense

1641
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 14: of urgency that it seemed like the Bears were heaving,

1642
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 14: and I think that contributed. I'm a little surprised that

1643
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 14: some of the fans are reacting as though there was

1644
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:59,599
Speaker 14: a mid season game, the way they were reacting. It

1645
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 14: was the first exhibition game, and there was a lot Again,

1646
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 14: there was a lot of talk about, you know, staying healthy,

1647
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 14: which made sense.

1648
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, I mean, I know what you're saying there, Ed,

1649
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 2: I don't think it was rooted in staying healthy. I

1650
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 2: don't know if that's the reason they had a lack

1651
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:19,800
Speaker 2: of urgency. If you go on a football field, and

1652
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 2: Steve can speak to this better than I can, if

1653
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 2: you go on a football field trying not to get hurt,

1654
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 2: you're probably gonna get hurt.

1655
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 1: Well, you're certainly not gonna play well. Yeah, and they didn't,

1656
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 1: But I don't think that was the reason. I don't

1657
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 1: know that that's the reason because the players never think

1658
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:37,760
Speaker 1: about players don't think about that by and large. I mean,

1659
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 1: there may be situations where guy's coming off an injury

1660
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 1: and they may think, you know what I mean, there

1661
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:44,680
Speaker 1: may be moments when they worry about that, but no,

1662
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 1: they don't go out there thinking, wow, I hope I

1663
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 1: don't get hurt. You go out there thinking, no, I'm bulletproof.

1664
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 1: Let's go. Yeah. That's that's the mentality. What you do?

1665
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 2: What?

1666
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 1: To me, the symptom of what I saw on Saturday

1667
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 1: was a team that looked like they'd been playing in

1668
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 1: playoff games and must win situations for a long time.

1669
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 1: And the best players on the team were sitting there

1670
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 1: knowing they were going to play about six plays in

1671
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 1: this game, and they were like, and it just is

1672
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 1: a it seems like a colossal wasted time. And that's

1673
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 1: what they played like.

1674
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 2: Now, break time for us final thoughts on the tweets sheet.

1675
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 2: When we return here on one Bill's Live. Stay with

1676
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 2: us right back here on one Bill's Live Chris Brown,

1677
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker. There is some news on the Iyuk front.

1678
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 2: This according to Niners Beat reporter Grant Cone. He says,

1679
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 2: Brandon Ayyuk has arrived at the forty nine ers practice

1680
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 2: wearing team year. He has been largely working wearing just

1681
01:28:56,200 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 2: like a black sweatsuit unmarked. So it's un believable. How

1682
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 2: the smallest of details.

1683
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 1: So he's been doing the same thing, but he's just

1684
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 1: been dressed different.

1685
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:08,679
Speaker 2: Now he's dressed different. He's wearing Niners gear, which hasn't happened.

1686
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:09,719
Speaker 1: Please make it stop.

1687
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 2: Just wake me when it's over. Hey, at least you're

1688
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 2: not on the beat having to cover that garbage, right. Hey, man,

1689
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 2: I did Flutie Johnson for three years. I know I

1690
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 2: can relate. I know I can relate. I know. Quick

1691
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 2: one on the tweets sheet, Rick says secondary as a group,

1692
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:30,599
Speaker 2: d line as a group including edge guys, special teams

1693
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 2: as a group. A lot of group think they're from

1694
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,280
Speaker 2: Rick in terms of position. Group that still has something

1695
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:35,639
Speaker 2: to prove.

1696
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I will see. I mean, I'm with you,

1697
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:41,680
Speaker 1: I like it and I'm totally with you.

1698
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 2: We will have coverage from Pittsburgh the Joint Practice from

1699
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:48,040
Speaker 2: Maddi Glabb. We'll also hear from Coach McDermott on tomorrow

1700
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 2: show at one