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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we would never back out

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Speaker 1: of a trade agreement. I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the

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Speaker 1: Chris Westleying podcast studio with my friend Steve Weisch. Colleen

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Speaker 1: Wolf is coming up a little later on the show.

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Speaker 1: We have reached the new league year in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and like a lot of first days of the new

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Speaker 1: league year, it's not as busy as the first day

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Speaker 1: of the negotiating period on Monday. But oh, Trey Hendrickson

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Speaker 1: and the Ravens gave us a good, juicy piece of steak.

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Speaker 1: We also get to some trades. A Cowboys trade happened

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Speaker 1: just before we started taping. I like a lot of

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Speaker 1: the movies the Commanders are making. That's coming up later

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Speaker 1: in the show. But let's get to the Trey Hendrickson

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby saga. When we last left off on NFL Daily,

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Speaker 1: the trade was canceled. We speculated, hmm, this looks pretty

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Speaker 1: good for Trey Hendrickson, and it did wind up being

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Speaker 1: just that sixty million dollars guaranteed a four year contract

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Speaker 1: for Hendrickson. Let's start about just how Trey Hendrickson landed

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Speaker 1: in Baltimore and how you think this all went down.

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Speaker 2: Well, first off, he's got to pass the physical. Before

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Speaker 2: that's there it becomes official. Look, this is one where

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Speaker 2: it clearly Trey Hendrickson. I think the market was slow

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Speaker 2: for him. And then all of a sudden, the Max

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Speaker 2: Crosby deal gets avoided in Baltimore because he fails a physical.

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Speaker 2: Baltimore is like, oh, man, okay, we get the draft pick.

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Speaker 2: We got, we have him. You know, Hendrickson out there

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Speaker 2: and the market's not as juicy as maybe he thought

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Speaker 2: it would be, so let's get it for twenty eight

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Speaker 2: million a year, which is actually two million dollars a

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Speaker 2: year less than Max Crosby. So he's there at the

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Speaker 2: same time as good of a player as Hendrickson is.

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Speaker 2: The way this all came about that they agreed to

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Speaker 2: the trade with Max Crosby. They knew he was coming

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Speaker 2: off of knee surgery. They got their imaging and saw

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Speaker 2: some stuff that they didn't like, and they were like,

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Speaker 2: we're not giving up two first round draft picks and

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Speaker 2: we are going to get Tree.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen to Eric Tacosta, and we might listen to

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Speaker 1: a couple of clips, but let's listen to him talk

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Speaker 1: about the signing of Trey Hendrickson and the notion this

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Speaker 1: was put out there by some of the reporting too,

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Speaker 1: that they could have had both Trey Hendrickson and Mac Crosby.

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Speaker 3: In terms of Trey, I think we came to a

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Speaker 3: point probably after we lost Tyler, where as we're trying

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Speaker 3: as a football team, Trey kind of made a lot

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Speaker 3: we started some discussions with with he and his agent,

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Speaker 3: thinking that, you know, potentially we'd have two pass rushers

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Speaker 3: on the defensive line on both sides of the line. Again,

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Speaker 3: I think it was disappointing, you know, to us and

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Speaker 3: probably in a way, you know, potentially disappointing probably the

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Speaker 1: Basically Ta Costa was saying that when he wanted to,

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Speaker 1: you know, potentially sign Trey Hendrickson, like he thought about, okay,

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Speaker 1: we could potentially do both. But when I looked at

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Speaker 1: the overall kind of timeline and how it went, and

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Speaker 1: Mike Garofolo talked about this too, I think they're trying

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Speaker 1: to have their caken age like they were in on

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Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson at one point, but they weren't necessarily gonna

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Speaker 1: go to the mat for him. And then once they

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Speaker 1: find out that the Max Crosby thing is not going

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Speaker 1: it sounded like Trey Hendrickson wanted about ten million dollars

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Speaker 1: more than he actually ended up getting, and I think

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Speaker 1: the Ravens ended up making up the difference. And they

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Speaker 1: were one of those teams that were in the mix

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Speaker 1: at the lower end of the spec correct correct, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, and you heard Eric the Costa say when they

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Speaker 2: a little more cash to play with. And then when

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Speaker 2: Max Crosby, when they avoided that trade, that's when they

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Speaker 2: had the money to go get him. Now, the notion

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Speaker 2: that they could get those two to play together, that's

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Speaker 2: if Trey Hendrickson wanted to maybe come in on a

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Speaker 4: So this is just how it fell out. But I'm

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Speaker 2: I think this is the Ravens like, hey, we we

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Speaker 2: But you know it didn't quite work out because.

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Speaker 1: Would you rather have Trey Hendrickson and the two first

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Speaker 4: It really all depends.

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Speaker 2: Look, Max Crosby is a great player, a great player

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Speaker 2: against the run. People don't talk enough about how what

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Speaker 5: Defender he is, and they drop off to Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 2: And in that scheme that jesse Mentor is going to play,

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Speaker 4: So I think.

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Speaker 2: Max plus Max mainly plays on the left side right

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Speaker 2: Trey is almost exclusively.

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Speaker 4: On the right side.

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Speaker 2: Now there's not there's not so much schematic differences, but

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Speaker 2: I'm a big Max Crosby guy.

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Speaker 4: He is. He is such a disruptive player.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know who else is the big Max

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Speaker 1: I think Eric da Costa if he was acting on

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Speaker 1: Wednesday when he met the media of how disappointed he

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Speaker 5: We're hearing reports, you know, from Ian and whatnot.

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Speaker 1: It's like, look, Max Scrisby is one of their like

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Speaker 1: Let's actually listen to Eric Tacosta talk about, you know,

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Speaker 1: some of the skepticism around the NFL, including on our network,

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Speaker 1: about what the Ravens have been doing.

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Speaker 3: Can I understand how people might, maybe from Afar would

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Speaker 3: feel that way, But nobody is more upset about this

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Speaker 3: than me guided by it actually, and so I regret

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Speaker 3: a big regret for me. But we will move on

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Speaker 3: as a as a football team, and I think there's

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Speaker 3: many many opportunities for us to grow as a team,

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Speaker 3: to become a better team, to build a roster, and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I think they really wanted him, the fact that they

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Speaker 1: Of thing, Like what are the conspiracy theory really think

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Speaker 1: the Ravens were trying to do here that basically they

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Speaker 1: just changed their mind because they realized Trey Hendrickson was available.

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Speaker 5: Trey Hendrickson was available the whole time.

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Speaker 1: They could have paid Treydritson twenty eight million dollars year

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Speaker 1: think they got to look at those scans and it's

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Speaker 5: They agreed to that trade on Friday, why wasn't he

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Speaker 1: And he's a guy who I saw the stats and

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Speaker 1: it was the most snaps played in the NFL sins

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, and it was him and Byron Murphy. Way,

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Speaker 1: Byron Murphy was a cornerback, way ahead of the pack,

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Speaker 5: Of any defensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: And he's coming off of torn meniscus surgery here, and

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Speaker 1: maybe they saw some stuff that's like, I don't know

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Speaker 2: To add to that, and this is not being talked

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Speaker 2: factors into it. Remember before last season, he had surgery

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Speaker 2: both of those. Now Max played his tail last year

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Speaker 2: clearly was something in that imaging. And to go back

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Speaker 2: to what you were saying about the physical part, what

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Speaker 2: people don't understand is these guys just don't go into

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Speaker 1: There's so many fascinating in Yeah, that's I could talk

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Speaker 5: I think we will.

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Speaker 1: They got a quote, and by they I should be specific.

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Speaker 1: Adam Schefter got a quote by the surgeon who I

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Speaker 1: mean O'Neil Elatron who looked at it.

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Speaker 4: Whose doctors take care of my shoulders?

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Speaker 5: By the way, how are they doing?

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Speaker 4: Not good?

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Speaker 1: Oh well, that's not a good advertisement for me. That's unfortunate.

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Speaker 1: You know, people don't know Steve was an ex player.

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Speaker 1: You were getting it done. It's a high school level.

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Speaker 1: The quote from him was much more understanding of the

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna read a little part of it. He said,

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Speaker 1: we truly respect the work the Raven staff did regarding

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Speaker 1: when tasked to provide a future assessment. This is especially

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Speaker 1: challenging when dealing with an elite player like Max, considering

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Speaker 1: the level of commitment necessary for a team to obtainment.

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Speaker 5: It keeps going.

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Speaker 1: The timing of the assessments unfortunate because the risk will

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Speaker 1: how I read that is like, yeah, it's not looking

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Speaker 1: great necessarily right now. It's pretty you know, soon after

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Speaker 1: which is why our guy Ian Rappaport was on this

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Speaker 1: this was a real deal, serious surgery, and so I

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Speaker 1: don't know if the Raiders made it sound like things

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Speaker 1: really interesting that there's reporting from our Jane Slater that

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Speaker 1: the Ravens actually tried to renegotiate this trade at a

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Speaker 1: certain point, talking about well, look after seeing what we saw,

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Speaker 1: maybe we can just change the terms here a little bit,

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Speaker 1: And that was kind of floating out there, and then

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Speaker 1: they reportedly came back to the Raiders and were like, actually, no,

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Speaker 1: like we're just out now because of everything that we know.

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Speaker 2: Look, this is not the first time a player has

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Speaker 2: been flunked on a physical. And you know this is

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Speaker 2: because Max Crosby is such a superstar and such a

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Speaker 2: great player. But there's it happens all the time where

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Speaker 2: teams will approve their doctors, will approve a physical to

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Speaker 2: through four years. We can get this guy through this injury.

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Speaker 2: Let's just make sure we have the proper plan.

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Speaker 4: Clearly.

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Speaker 2: Again, what they saw was alarming enough because the Ravens

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Speaker 5: And it's and it's a feeling of rejection.

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Speaker 1: You know what's fascinating is that the Cowboys, you know,

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Speaker 2: Well, see, it's easy to say now though, because you

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Speaker 1: This Raiders team looks much better than when Max Crosby

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Speaker 1: We completed our biggest acquisition of the season during the break.

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Speaker 6: with Kirk Cousins. And it's just I think that Justin

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Speaker 6: Jefferson will.

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Speaker 5: Be happy about this.

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Speaker 6: Oh really yeah, because I think.

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Speaker 5: A guy that can throw to the outside, yeah.

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Speaker 6: Exactly, So, Kyler Murray I think has a really good

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Speaker 6: shot at winning.

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Speaker 2: The job if he's I mean, who else is he

446
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Speaker 2: listening to? Saskatchewan?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, when I mentioned the Matchmaker game in Jordan. Hello,

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Speaker 1: I know she's going to be listening at some point.

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Speaker 1: She's a big NFL Daily listener.

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Speaker 5: We need it. She throughout the Rams as a potential

451
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Speaker 5: for the Rams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but if when I heard that, like, well, he

453
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Speaker 1: wants to listen to see what's out there, what's right

454
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Speaker 1: for him.

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Speaker 5: She's not just putting that on the show out of nowhere.

456
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Speaker 1: And so if you're Kyler Murray, and we haven't heard

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Speaker 1: any reporting elsewhere about the Rams, But if you're Kyler Murray,

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Speaker 1: if let's say either Andy Reid or Sean McVay calls

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Speaker 1: and says, hey, we have these two different situations.

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Speaker 5: You can kind of take a step back for a year.

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Speaker 5: You can go through our almost quarterback school. You can win.

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Speaker 1: You can win some games for the Chiefs. You might

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Speaker 1: end up playing for the Rams, you might not, but

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Speaker 1: either way, you'll learn the system that the whole league

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Speaker 1: is running. That's something to consider.

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Speaker 2: And the Chiefs do need a backup quarterbacks, as Gardner

467
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Speaker 2: Minshew is now right, So I get that that's not

468
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Speaker 2: a bad idea, but if he wants to.

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Speaker 1: Start, Yeah, the problem is Kevin O'Connell gives you a

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Speaker 1: lot of that too. That's the system, and nobody like

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks just I don't know what Kevin O'Connell does.

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Speaker 2: It's worked for Daniel Jones and it's worked for Sam Darnold,

473
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Speaker 2: the two biggest reclamation projects going through there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, people people get with Kevin O'Connell and they

475
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Speaker 1: just swoon like quarterbacks, they just want to go there.

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams talked about in that Seth Wickersham book that

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Speaker 1: like he just he just was hoping that he knew

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Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna go to Minnesota, but he just wanted

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Speaker 1: to go to Minnesota because that's kind of like he's

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Speaker 1: the quarterback guy.

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Speaker 6: Well, then I feel like this is as long as

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Speaker 6: he passes his physical, which there should be no issue,

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Speaker 6: I would.

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Speaker 1: Think he's got the Yeah, Like, they won nine games

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Speaker 1: a year ago with pretty poor quarterback play.

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Speaker 5: They won fourteen games the year before with you know.

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Speaker 2: And they weren't just hurt by quick to back play.

488
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Speaker 2: Their offensive line was decimated. Christian darrisolv was not out

489
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Speaker 2: of the lineup. They had some issues on the offensive

490
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Speaker 2: line in terms of just durability injury issues, but they're

491
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Speaker 2: still a really good football team. Their defense is going

492
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Speaker 2: to keep them in game.

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Speaker 6: What do you think his ceiling is Kyler with the Vikings.

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Speaker 4: I think he's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: I've seen I have seen Kyler Murray play so many

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Speaker 2: times live and I am I am a big Kyler

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Speaker 2: Murray guy.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing is, I think a coach like Mcca

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Speaker 1: O'Connell or Sean McVay or or Andy Reid like sees

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Speaker 1: him at his best and says, man, if I could

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Speaker 1: get a hold of that, because I'll answer my own

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Speaker 1: question in terms of like what's this like whe where

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Speaker 1: would you put them in the hierarchy? Like, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think they can go to the NFC Championship game. I

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Speaker 1: think they can be a contender because if they were

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Speaker 1: that good with Sam Darnold, I think Kyler Murray has

507
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Speaker 1: a chance to provide that level level of play.

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Speaker 5: The Lions. You mentioned you're not happy with how their

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Speaker 5: off season's going, Like, well, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean haven't been able to get people, but I mean

511
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Speaker 2: there's such big believers in you know, draft and develop. Look,

512
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Speaker 2: we're looking at video Kyler Murray right now and people like, Okay,

513
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Speaker 2: he's small.

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Speaker 4: And he runs around. When you see that ball leave

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Speaker 4: his hand.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there are five or six guys when you look

517
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Speaker 2: at throw the ball and you're just like, okay, pretty

518
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Speaker 2: they're different that ball leaves their hand. I mean Stafford,

519
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Speaker 2: some of these that ball leaves her hand different. He's

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Speaker 2: one of those guys. It's a boom when it leaves

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Speaker 2: his hand.

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Speaker 1: And Colleen mentioned Kirk Cousins. You know that's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like in Minnesota there really hasn't been the

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Speaker 1: interest there. There was some interest in Gina Smith from Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: but he's obviously with the Jets. There was a report

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Speaker 1: by the athletics Diana Rossini that the Raiders are interested

527
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Speaker 1: in Kirk Cousins and that he might end up going

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Speaker 1: there to be you know, presumably Fernando Mendoza's backup or

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Speaker 1: you know, short term starter before Mendoza is ready to go,

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Speaker 1: Let's go to a quarterback who's been near and dear

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Speaker 1: to Colleen's heart, the team of Colleen Wolf the Indianapolis called.

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Speaker 1: In the end, they did kind of what we said

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Speaker 1: they were going to do, which was get Alec Pearson

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones to stay. And now Daniel Jones has a

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Speaker 1: two year contract that the details are very interesting, Colleen.

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Speaker 1: It's a two year contract about eighty eight million dollars.

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Speaker 1: About fifty million dollars is guaranteed total and sixty for injury.

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Speaker 1: When I hear fifty million dollars fully guaranteed, it kind

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Speaker 1: of sounds like a one year deal, where like if

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Speaker 1: everything went horribly, and I wouldn't want that to happen,

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Speaker 1: but for him and or the Colts, like, I feel

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Speaker 1: like that organization is on a one year deal. But

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Speaker 1: if it goes well, then then they got him for

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Speaker 1: two years and they can give him another contract if

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Speaker 1: they want to be the long term guy.

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Speaker 6: And so like with a lot of these moves, I'm

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Speaker 6: looking at what the move signifies to in terms of

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Speaker 6: like the other guys on the roster, and automatically my

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Speaker 6: mind goes to Anthony Richardson and that what this says

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Speaker 6: to everyone about Anthony Richardson and where they are with him,

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Speaker 6: because I know that they were talking about potentially trading

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Speaker 6: him and what that could look like. But you know

553
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Speaker 6: where I am with Daniel Jones. I love Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 6: I want him to be the Sam Arnold.

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Speaker 5: He was the Sam.

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Speaker 6: Darnold of last year. And then everything sort of collapsed.

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Speaker 6: But I know that they are. I don't want to

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Speaker 6: say that they're living in the past. I think that

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Speaker 6: they saw the success that they had in the first

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Speaker 6: half of last season, and I think they know that

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Speaker 6: they have so much talent on that roster and they

562
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Speaker 6: could do it again potentially, And maybe they're just trying

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Speaker 6: to run it back to see how close they can get, right,

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Speaker 6: But they're running.

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Speaker 1: It back with a guy that has a torn achilles tendon,

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Speaker 1: and they don't have Michael Pittman anymore, and they tried

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Speaker 1: to get Trey Hendrickson and instead they signed Michael Clemens.

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Speaker 6: Fair.

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Speaker 5: I just, I just I did a whole segment. Would

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Speaker 5: you send that out?

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about sending that out on social but it's

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Speaker 1: basically saying negging their whole season, you know, like, oh yeah, right.

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Speaker 6: As are we work shopping?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying like it's pretty negative for the

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Speaker 1: first day after free agency to be like, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: sound like that great a plan. And then I get

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Speaker 1: some comments of like, yeah, well Jason Tatum's playing already.

578
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Speaker 1: It's like, okay, but that's ten months after his injury.

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Speaker 1: We're hearing he's gonna Daniel Jones gonna be ready for

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Speaker 1: a week one, like you don't know.

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Speaker 4: You don't know that, but it was December.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is clearly when you talk about some

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Speaker 2: of those guarantees, there's clearly some triggers in there that

584
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Speaker 2: that trigger the guarantees. But I don't think they're rolling

585
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Speaker 2: their dice like this. You know, if they don't think

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Speaker 2: he's gonna come back. I don't think Alec Pierce re

587
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Speaker 2: signs if he doesn't think his buddy Daniel Jones is

588
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Speaker 2: coming back.

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Speaker 4: So I think I think all of that factored into it.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I just think they feel that, Okay,

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Speaker 2: some of the guys who let go Zire Franklin, guys

592
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Speaker 2: like this, we've got guys on our roster who we

593
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Speaker 2: think can play. There's still some other players out there

594
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Speaker 2: we can get and we can draft.

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Speaker 4: Okay. So that's you know, that's what they feel like.

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Speaker 2: They're in a division where they've seen Jacksonville take a

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Speaker 2: lot of personnel losses in free agency, so that maybe

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Speaker 2: they feel they can get right back there. Remember we

599
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Speaker 2: were talking about the Colts being the Super Bowl team

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Speaker 2: halfway through the scenion.

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Speaker 1: Right, I know, but there is something Danny Heyfitz pointed

602
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Speaker 1: out on The Ringer Fantasy Show of just like there's

603
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Speaker 1: almost something a little sad that they're just like, we

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Speaker 1: gotta we gotta run this back, because this was the

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Speaker 1: best run that the entire Chris Ballard era had so well,

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Speaker 1: I know, but they still finished, they still finished the

607
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: nine last year, like they didn't win a single game

608
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Speaker 1: after he got hurt and they started losing even before.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I just think it's a it's a

610
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: high bar to reach. Let's listen to Daniel Jones. Maybe

611
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Speaker 1: he can perk me up.

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Speaker 5: He was on ESPN.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure he brings that smoke to Okay.

614
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Speaker 1: I haven't heard this one yet. Let's hear him on

615
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Speaker 1: ESPN earlier today.

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Speaker 7: I wanted to be back and and uh, I'm glad

617
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 7: we got it figured out. I didn't the transition tag.

618
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Speaker 7: That whole process was was interesting, but I always wanted

619
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Speaker 7: to be here and you know, had faith it would

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Speaker 7: it would work out. So yeah, definitely appreciative, grateful and

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Speaker 7: fired up to be here. We got a special thing

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Speaker 7: going and working with this coaching staff, working with the

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Speaker 7: guys in the locker room, and fired up to get

624
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Speaker 7: Alec back and and all that.

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Speaker 5: So, uh looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: Come on down, Riley Ward. Yeah, No, that made me

627
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Speaker 1: feel a little better. I mean, how do you feel

628
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Speaker 1: I mean, because I just feel like they gotta get

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Speaker 1: they go out to a fast start, it's gonna be tricky.

630
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Speaker 1: I thought they might do something at quarterback and it's

631
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: been quiet there. Do you like, how do you feel

632
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: about Riley Leonard holding the fort.

633
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Speaker 6: Until Well, that's I feel like that's a different story. Like,

634
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Speaker 6: I have a lot more confidence in Daniel Jones, but

635
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Speaker 6: I think that we just have to wait to see

636
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 6: where he is in his rehab and obviously there's a

637
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Speaker 6: lot of questions that are going to have to be

638
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 6: answered this offseason and training camp and preseason two.

639
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Speaker 1: I like that I take you know, Colleen gets right

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Speaker 1: off the street. Uh, she's ready and then just I'm

641
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: just like putting her on the hot seaton.

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Speaker 6: I know, I saw my lanyard on like I mean.

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Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers have traded for osa Odigi Zua

644
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: from the Cowboys for a twenty twenty six third round

645
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: pick that started bubbling up a little earlier in the week.

646
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a big time player who they

647
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Speaker 1: gave a quote unquote hundred million dollar contract to is,

648
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: earning a little over twenty million dollars a pocket pushing

649
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, and it helps, you know, the team get

650
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Speaker 1: some more draft picks. Solomon Thomas also was traded to

651
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Speaker 1: the Titans in a swap of seventh round picks from

652
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. But the Odgazua move is big for San Francisco,

653
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Speaker 1: and it's interesting because Dallas is like trying to get

654
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: picks back. It's very confusing because they have the extra

655
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: first round pick from the Michael Parsons deal, but you

656
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Speaker 1: kind of forget. Oh yeah, they gave up all those

657
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Speaker 1: picks for Quwentn Williams and for George Pickens, so they

658
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Speaker 1: didn't have any picks after that. I don't really know

659
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Speaker 1: what the planet is here, Like the defense keeps changing.

660
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Speaker 1: Kristin Parker is the defensive coordinator, so maybe Odigi Zua

661
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Speaker 1: didn't fit as well. But that's a big time acquisition

662
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Speaker 1: to be paying that much money if you're the forty one.

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Speaker 2: Clearly it's a cap move for Dallas as well and

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Speaker 2: kind of clear some salary off their ross. But look,

665
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Speaker 2: San Francisco, Ruhie Morrison or is now the defensive coordinator,

666
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Speaker 2: we know he likes those hyper athletic defensive tackles, gap

667
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Speaker 2: type defensive tackles.

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Speaker 4: He fits what they want to do. Now.

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Speaker 2: Nick Bosa is coming back, but they've got to get

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Speaker 2: something on Mikel Williams. They we've got to continue to

671
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Speaker 2: develop some guys on that defensive front. But this is

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Speaker 2: something where they clearly like we've got to be better

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Speaker 2: against the run. Warner's coming back off of an injury.

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Speaker 2: I know they got de winners, and you know they're

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Speaker 2: at one of the linebacker spots. I would not be

676
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Speaker 2: surprised for a green Law who was let go by

677
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Speaker 2: Denver comes back to play the linebacker spot there. But

678
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Speaker 2: this is a nice pick up what Raree Morris wants

679
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Speaker 2: to do with this defense.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and he rarely missed time like this as a player,

681
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Speaker 6: so he's terrible. He's consistent. You can rely on him.

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Speaker 6: And you talk about some of the guys that are

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Speaker 6: now there in San Francisco, including Mattyberflus who comes over

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Speaker 6: from oh yeah, Dallas to the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 5: So you're always connecting the coaches my.

686
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Speaker 6: Lane and I like to do. But that sort of

687
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Speaker 6: makes some sense.

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Speaker 1: Too. They were spend spending a lot of money in

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Speaker 1: terms of like defensive tackles in Dallas, Kenny Clark quinnin

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Speaker 1: willis right, and then Odiggy Zoo was kind of in

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Speaker 1: the old scheme. And I thought San Francisco was gonna

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Speaker 1: be like the sneaky, super aggressive win Now team in

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Speaker 1: this free agency period. And I don't think they got

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Speaker 1: everything that they've wanted necessarily.

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Speaker 5: I think the WHI receiver.

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Speaker 1: You know, they were in on Alec Pierce, and then

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Speaker 1: they wind up convincing Mike Evans to come instead for

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Speaker 1: very little money.

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Speaker 5: Trent Williams still on the roster. I don't know if

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Speaker 5: that's going to change.

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Speaker 4: Figure.

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Speaker 1: I knew they needed some pass rush help, so I'm

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Speaker 1: just thinking edge edge edge, But instead it ends up

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Speaker 1: being kind of an interior move and giving up a

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Speaker 1: third round pick.

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Speaker 5: That's that's a real pick, Yeah, a real pick that

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Speaker 5: NFC West just feels like.

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely it's an arm breakload an it is an

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Speaker 1: arms race.

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Speaker 4: What's going on out there?

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the commanders making moves, and they were

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Speaker 1: the team I talked about at a certain point on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: March eleventh. Here first, day of the new league year, like,

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Speaker 1: there were the two highest guys on my top one

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Speaker 1: O one were Kyler Murray who just became a free

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Speaker 1: agent on Wednesday, and then Rashid Walker, the tackle from

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Speaker 1: the Packers. The next three on the list, which were

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Speaker 1: like between thirty I think and thirty five where Calebon

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Speaker 1: chase him. Commanders took him for a one year contract

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Speaker 1: twelve million dollars ed Rusher. Then it was tight end Chico'conquo.

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Speaker 1: They signed him for about nine million dollars I think

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Speaker 1: base salary on a three year contract.

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Speaker 5: I like that move.

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Speaker 1: And then the next guy on the list, the highest

725
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Speaker 1: defensive player of remaining, was Nick Cross and they pick

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Speaker 1: him off for a low cost deal. And I'm just

727
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Speaker 1: thinking like, oh, yeah, I forgot Leo Chanel. By the way,

728
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Speaker 1: is there too, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And they got him and they got to make Robinson

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Speaker 4: to h Robertson.

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Speaker 1: That was like a little earlier, but in terms of

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Speaker 1: you know what happened Wednesday, they were just like picking

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Speaker 1: off my guys. So I feel like I could be

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Speaker 1: a consultant as we're taping this. When the league year started,

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Speaker 1: there was only two in the top forty two players

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Speaker 1: that's never happened before. Free agency is just like moves

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Speaker 1: faster than ever that there's only two out of a

738
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Speaker 1: top forty. But what do you think about the commanders

739
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Speaker 1: in your division? I mean, first, you are an eagle

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Speaker 1: making smart moves. I'm kind of in wasn't sure about

741
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Speaker 1: the adappe away move.

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Speaker 5: It was a lot of money, man.

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Speaker 1: They have added a lot of pretty good defensive players

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Speaker 1: in Oconquo for the guys who are in the middle

745
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Speaker 1: of their their careers instead of at the end of.

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Speaker 6: Well, just to put some context into the way that

747
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 6: free agency is moving right now. Steve and I were

748
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Speaker 6: on a show Monday, and it was the second half

749
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Speaker 6: of the right after the legal tampering period window opened,

750
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Speaker 6: and we're sitting in a production meeting trying to go

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Speaker 6: through what the show would look like. We were going

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Speaker 6: to be on for four hours, and as we would

753
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Speaker 6: start one topic, it was just like moves were rolling

754
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Speaker 6: in left and right. Everything was changing so fast, and

755
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Speaker 6: the commanders were so quiet during that first day, but

756
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Speaker 6: they made up for it, and I like that they

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Speaker 6: as Colleen the analyst here, I like that they focused

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Speaker 6: on defense, which was obviously a major liability for them

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Speaker 6: during the season, and they had all of this cap space,

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Speaker 6: so they were able to make these signings and have

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Speaker 6: the flexibility. As Colleen, the Eagles fan, I hate it.

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Speaker 1: I hate it all, and it's guys like in their twenties.

763
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Speaker 1: It's athletic, and I think it's really interesting. Dernte Jones

764
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Speaker 1: is the new defensive coordinator. He comes from Brian Flores.

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Speaker 1: Ya know, you wonder is Dan is it gonna be

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Speaker 1: Dan Quinn's defense or is it going to be Deronte Jones. Well,

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Speaker 1: I can just see Nick Cross and Leos Chanelle specifically

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Speaker 1: in that Brian Flores type of defense. Just Jack knifing

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Speaker 1: and making some big run stoff stuffs and Leo Chanell

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Speaker 1: rushing the passer from the linebacker position.

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Speaker 5: It could be fun.

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Speaker 4: Well, look, they've got to get some guys who can win.

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Speaker 2: Last year when they went to free agency, like you

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Speaker 2: mentioned earlier, they went got guys like win. Now, we've

775
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Speaker 2: got to get defensive front guys who can win on

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Speaker 2: first down. Right, they couldn't stop the run the year

777
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Speaker 2: before and they went to the NFC Championship that did

778
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Speaker 2: not work out, and because they were slow up front,

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Speaker 2: their pursuit angles were terrible on the back. They got

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Speaker 2: hit for big run after big run. So now getting

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Speaker 2: guys like Chaseawn who can run. Oh wait, who was

782
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Speaker 2: super athletic. Right, you get Tim Settle from Houston. Forget

783
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Speaker 2: that's a that's a guy who can reset the line

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Speaker 2: of scrimmage. He's going to rotate in it with Javon Kinlaw,

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Speaker 2: who they love. I love Nick Cross. I mean I

786
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Speaker 2: think he gives them an awful lot at that strong

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Speaker 2: kind of hybrid safety spot.

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Speaker 4: So we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Because Deronte Jones, he is a secondary coach by nature,

790
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Speaker 2: but he's an aggressive guy. He's he's one of those

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Speaker 2: guys who's on the fast track, on the on the

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Speaker 2: way up in a lot of people's eyes as well.

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Speaker 4: So it's it's a weight and see.

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Speaker 2: But I think Shannal and Frankie Louvu just get add

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Speaker 2: some significant athleticist interior linebacker corps.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're the most like Patriots, like of an

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Speaker 1: off season where they just have a ton of starters.

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Speaker 1: They got a hit on it, but I just mean

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Speaker 1: from last year where they just got a lot of

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Speaker 1: players who are going to play.

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Speaker 6: I think the one big miss aside from Alec Pearce

802
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Speaker 6: would be not getting Tyler Linderbaum because of losing that's

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Speaker 6: that's a huge, huge part of the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: And they end up spending it, which I think was smart.

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Speaker 1: I like the middle tier of this free agency group.

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Speaker 1: They didn't have to spend too much on Chase On

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Speaker 1: so they got two new edge starters and him in

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Speaker 1: o way, they got a new linebacker and Chanel.

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Speaker 5: They got crossed that center. That center thing is big.

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Speaker 1: I think they're going to elevate Nick Alligretti, who was

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Speaker 1: there and played a couple of games at the end

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Speaker 1: of the last They also might be adding Brandon Ayuk.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I think he's officially expected to get cut.

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00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not going to solve their wide receiver situation,

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Speaker 1: but it might be like a one year type of

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Speaker 1: prove it deal. While we're talking commanders, Leo Chanelle was

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Speaker 1: part of something I just wanted to talk about a

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Speaker 1: little bit, which were these messages on social media in

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Speaker 1: which I think I don't know for sure, but I

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Speaker 1: think the players are using ai uh to write it.

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Speaker 1: If you're watching on YouTube or the NFL channel, you

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Speaker 1: can see the image from Leo Chanelle and it just

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Speaker 1: looks very similar to a couple of the images that

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Speaker 1: I saw early in the week, especially the Zaire Franklin

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Speaker 1: and then the Rashan Gary one that he deleted. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you read these closely, and you guys can do

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Speaker 1: this in your in your homework, you're off time. Especially

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Speaker 1: the Chanelle and Rashan Gary ones. They really include no

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Speaker 1: information that is particular to them, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: Like it just could be any Chiefs player or almost

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Speaker 1: any Packers player, and it just feels like either their

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Speaker 1: agency or they are using AI to construct a goodbye

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Speaker 1: letter they are.

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Speaker 4: All you have to do is look at the transfer

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Speaker 4: portal exits.

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Speaker 2: Yes, when all these collegiate players hit the transfer portal,

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Speaker 2: there's a million of them and.

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Speaker 4: They all know.

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Speaker 6: This is like such a trigger for me because I've

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Speaker 6: gotten a few emails recently with pitches for things or

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Speaker 6: like treatments for like shows or ideas, and it's so

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Speaker 6: clearly AI that there wasn't even the thought to go

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Speaker 6: through and like read it because the words are running together,

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Speaker 6: things don't make sense.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, guys, I mean, the Rashan Gary one said

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Speaker 1: something like wherever I go, I'll you know, bring my

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Speaker 1: six foot seven, two hundred and fifty pounds.

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Speaker 5: Goodbye, Rashan Gary.

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Speaker 1: Nobody talks like that, to quote one of the greatest

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Speaker 1: NFL Network employees of all time, like we're losing recipes.

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Speaker 1: It is, it is not great, and we're wally in ourselves.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember the movie Wally? Oh, yeah, it's happening.

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Speaker 1: Don't let that happen?

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Speaker 4: Better than I robot at this stage.

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Speaker 5: It was really telling. Before we break, I'll just smarter everybody. Yeah. Please.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Jones, by the way, we mentioned he was gonna

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Speaker 1: get cut, is gonna stay with the Vikings after all,

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Speaker 1: on a reduced contract. I think that's great for both sides.

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Speaker 1: And Harrison Smith is getting released in a procedural move.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't decided whether he wants to retire or not.

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Speaker 1: The lines of communication are open, and if he chooses

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Speaker 1: to play still in twenty twenty six, he could come back.

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00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: But I like Aaron Jones returning to the Vikings. Let's

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Speaker 1: take another break here and we will be back in

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Speaker 1: just a couple minutes. Stick with us, Let's rip through

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Speaker 1: just a few other news items.

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Speaker 5: But I do want to confirm your the email. Is

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Speaker 5: it back?

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I'm working on it all right, Greg,

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Speaker 6: everyone's working on it.

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Speaker 1: I will think in and there's no WAYHR is listening.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking it would be great in the future

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Speaker 1: because some of these are hard.

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Speaker 5: I could pay my son to.

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Speaker 1: Do the HR requirements for me at home. It's like

876
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Speaker 1: a It'd be like an.

877
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Speaker 6: Allowance for new dollar someone else.

878
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 5: That's me.

879
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 6: You should get kids, because it's super fun to do

880
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 6: the ninjeos.

881
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, children do.

882
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 4: That nothing on an open bike.

883
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: A couple other moves, and I'm just gonna ask you

884
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: for one liners and a couple of these. Devon Hargrave

885
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: goes to the Green Bay Packers. I'm really surprised that

886
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: he got thirteen million dollars guaranteed two years for twenty three.

887
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 2: He's He's in the salary Hall of Fame and heat.

888
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: They needed todtackle. Javon's a good lunch stuff.

889
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 5: So the Vikings cut him. He goes right to Green Bay.

890
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb got twenty nine million dollars guaranteed from the

891
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: Bills three years, fifty two million dollars. They're a team.

892
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: I was gonna call you, Jordan Colleen. Oh, I'm so

893
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: used to it. You know, she's here a lot we

894
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: need to hear more.

895
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 6: I love them, so I will take that as a compliment.

896
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, like Bradley Chubb's coming out, He's

897
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: had a lot of injuries in his career and they

898
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: have a lot of holes to fill, so so in

899
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: not a lot of cap space to spend this much

900
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: money on Bradley Chubb seems seems like a lot to me.

901
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 6: That's a lot. But I mean he would start what

902
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 6: opposite Greg Russo, and it's going to be a new defense.

903
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 6: They're changing based systems, so there's kind of a lot

904
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 6: in flux. But I think it's sort of it's similar

905
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 6: to the schemes that he played in Miami previously and Denver,

906
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 6: so that.

907
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 5: Could help well.

908
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: And yeah, they got the coach from Denver, so there's yeah, Jim,

909
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: she did it again.

910
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 5: She did it again.

911
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: The Patriots have signed Kevin Bayard up to nine million dollars.

912
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: Not sure what the real money is there, but an

913
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: interesting older edition.

914
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm surprised that the Bearers let him go.

915
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: I I am too, But you know it's going to

916
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: make that defense a little slower, but kind of like

917
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: a leader.

918
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, he'll he'll stabilize some things in the back end.

919
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: They cut Anthony Jennings, who's been a long time. We

920
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier that that Kirk Cousins could potentially be, you know,

921
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: interested in the Raiders. A couple of other minor signings,

922
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: the Dolphins bringing back to josh U j Willie Gay,

923
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: and then the news and NFL all but confirmed it

924
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: with a statement that they're circling Thanksgiving Eve.

925
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 5: Colleen and Steve, are you ready to work another game?

926
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Eve could be coming to the NFL schedule as

927
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: early as this season.

928
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: They played a Wednesday game on christ Christmas. You know,

929
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: so it's coming. It's coming to set up the you know,

930
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: all the streamers and the eighteenth game.

931
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 6: Listen. I mean, there's gonna be a game on Valentine's Day.

932
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 6: There's going to be a game on Easter.

933
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 5: I have two thoughts.

934
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 1: For sure, If I can get more like another job

935
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: out of it, I'm all for it. If not, you know,

936
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: we'll we'll just combine into the Thanksgiving Day recap.

937
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 6: I think on NFL days, so NFL Daily, it's a

938
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 6: daily show, and you would like love their job.

939
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 5: Well, I'm saying you're saying streamers or whatever.

940
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: Who knows there there's always opportun tunities out there Thanksgiving Eve,

941
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: but that would really it really hurt the teams the

942
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: week before because they'd have to have a bye week,

943
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: but then they don't get a real bye week.

944
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,479
Speaker 4: Or they'd be a Thursday team playing on a little ah.

945
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 5: That's true either way, it's it's weekday work man.

946
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 6: Mike North will figure it out.

947
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: A long time ago, I suggested on the Around the

948
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 1: NFL podcast my plan this was way back in twenty fifteen,

949
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 1: to play NFL. This was before I had two kids,

950
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: but to play NFL games every day of the week.

951
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 1: I came up with a whole schedule that we could

952
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,959
Speaker 1: do two games a day for the entire season.

953
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 5: The NFL is getting closer to that each and every year.

954
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: This is the part of free agency where a lot

955
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: of fan bases were just like, how come my team's

956
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: not doing anything? Can we do something more? Why don't

957
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: you care about us? And so we're going to do

958
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: a segment about it, and it's really just an excuse

959
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: for Colleen to talk about the Eagles.

960
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 6: Listen, all right, fine, I was going to say that

961
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 6: usually when you tell someone to calm down, it goes

962
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 6: really well.

963
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, good point.

964
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 6: So I say this with like some caution for Eagles

965
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 6: fans to calm down. And I don't know if it's

966
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 6: honestly like if I'm projecting, if this is real? Are

967
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 6: they is it just my family like kind of talking

968
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 6: about Okay, all right? So, and I think in a

969
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 6: way it is warranted because they lost Jalen Phillips, Nakobe Dean,

970
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 6: read Blank, and Ship. The wide receiver room is sort

971
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 6: of uncertain right now with all of the rumors swirling

972
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 6: about aj Brown. Jahan Dotson has gone Dallas Goddard. That

973
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 6: is unclear what's going to happen with him. However, I

974
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 6: just feel like at this point Howie Roseman has showed

975
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 6: us that even when things look awful on this roster

976
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 6: that he finds a way And there's always internal replacements

977
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 6: that are already in place, like Jahad Campbell Verdean, you

978
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 6: have Andrew Macouba for Blankenship. I mean they have a

979
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 6: ton of draft capital, nine picks, including four compensatory picks,

980
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 6: and the wild card loss last year to the forty

981
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 6: nine ers. It's not like it was some blowout. Yes,

982
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 6: they lost that that was bad at home, but it

983
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 6: was a close, competitive game. And Howie's track record, I

984
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 6: just think everyone needs to take a deep breath and

985
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 6: watch him cook. Let's see what happened.

986
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, it's like, oh, the roster's

987
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: in tough shape. Oh yeah, I'm sure a ton of

988
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: teams out there feel bad for the team that has

989
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: AJ Brown and DeVante Smith and three of the best

990
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 1: offensive linemen in the league and a Super Bowl winning

991
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: quarterback and Saquon Barkley and Jalen Carter and Zach Bond

992
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 1: like and the guys in the back and calm down. Also,

993
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: Baldy heard that maybe they're talking Aj Brown to the

994
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: Broncos is a little something that would be interesting.

995
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 5: I don't know who would be coming back. Maybe it

996
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 5: would be Courtland Suton.

997
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 6: Well, the wide receiver class this year in the draft

998
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 6: is really deep.

999
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: And then there has been other reporting too that they

1000
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: could be talking to the Vikings about Jonathan Grenard to

1001
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: fill that edge. So I'm with you, calm down, Let

1002
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: Howie do his thing. It's not about the first couple

1003
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: of days.

1004
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 4: I thought you were going to drop a Hey, Sean

1005
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 4: Man got this on it.

1006
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: How about Yours is simple. We've talked about my simple.

1007
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 2: And I say this because at least the Raiders have

1008
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: a legit like hardcore fan base.

1009
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:08,919
Speaker 4: But they didn't chill.

1010
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: I mean the other day they were so upset, like,

1011
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: oh man, we got rid of Max.

1012
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 4: He's a heart and soul of our team and our community.

1013
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, Max fails to fiscal all we

1014
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: got Max back is sucked.

1015
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 4: We lose a second round, we lose that second first

1016
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 4: round draft pick. What the hell the NFL is against us?

1017
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 5: It is funny, Yeah, calm down, and for everyone, I.

1018
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:28,479
Speaker 4: Have it both ways.

1019
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 2: It's not like you guys, even ripping off super Bowl championships,

1020
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: just continue to be tortured like Eagles fans. Except Eagles

1021
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 2: fans if once continue to be tortured and trust the process, right.

1022
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: And if all those teams are so mad about what

1023
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: the Ravens did with Crosby, go get Crosby.

1024
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 5: You know the price is down, you can go get him.

1025
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about the Chargers, who I think I

1026
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: over index and following Chargers fans and in media and

1027
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: so I don't think this would be known nashally, but

1028
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: they are freaking out right now that the team has

1029
00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: not addressed the offensive line specifically enough. They Tyler, you know,

1030
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: they got Tyler Biattish. They re signed a couple guys

1031
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: that didn't really play that well for them, Pipkins and

1032
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: who was it, Trevor Penning. But again, it's like these

1033
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: offensive line contracts where you're paying up the nose. Mike

1034
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: McDaniel has two great tackles now and it's day one

1035
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 1: officially of free agency, and so it's more about the

1036
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: timing of it all, like let them do their work,

1037
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: don't evaluate the entire offseason. At this point, you can

1038
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: find other offensive linemen and you can coach them.

1039
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 4: They didn't love their guards who they let go. They

1040
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 4: didn't love their guards.

1041
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: They got a blocking tight end to help compensate for

1042
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 2: the injured tackles who are coming back. But Chargers, they

1043
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: should feel good. This is the first time they've ever

1044
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 2: been told to calm down, you know, ever since you

1045
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: know that's true, extra points and field goals.

1046
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 5: The expectations are higher, just like they are on this show.

1047
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: Lucky Colleen Wolf, like grand Theft auto through the streets

1048
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: of Los Angeles, she gets here just in time. Steve Wisch,

1049
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: it's been fun all week. We've been going live earlier

1050
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: in the week. We'll still be doing NFL Daily every

1051
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: day this week, but not live, so sealing

1052
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 6: Lands is expla