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Speaker 1: Welcome into Northside Territory. Foul Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sahad Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are your

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Speaker 1: Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic. Patrick, let's do

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Speaker 1: everyone's favorite mail bag episode. You guys are always great

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Speaker 1: about sending in your questions. We appreciate it. Let's get

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Speaker 1: right to it. Regular contributor Tyler Dershell. With it looking

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Speaker 1: like the Cubs will be very much in playoff contention,

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Speaker 1: do you anticipate the team being more aggressive and acquiring

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Speaker 1: starting pitching or bullpen pitching.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think Tyler's always spot on with his questions.

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Speaker 2: I think they got to be aggressive in both areas.

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Speaker 2: You've kind of shared this before, Sahadev, But the idea

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Speaker 2: of they just don't know yet where they're going to

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Speaker 2: be in July, Like what looks like a strength now

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Speaker 2: could suddenly become a weakness. A bullpen that's been a

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Speaker 2: little all over the place could solidify in ways that

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Speaker 2: are not obvious at this point. But yeah, I think,

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Speaker 2: especially if Matt Shaw kind of gets right in Iowa

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Speaker 2: and the Cubs trust him as a regular third base option,

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Speaker 2: you gotta go big on pitching, right, I would, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, pitching is is what they have to go after.

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Speaker 3: I just can't.

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Speaker 1: I can't see a situation where they're not. But I'll

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Speaker 1: say this, so look at look at Ben Brown over

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Speaker 1: his last three starts, twenty six point two percent strikeout rate,

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Speaker 1: eight point four percent walk rate.

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Speaker 3: What is the era? Oh, the era is actually kind

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Speaker 3: of high. I didn't realize that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's it's four point seventy five in the last

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Speaker 1: three starts, but it was six innings, no runs, five innings,

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Speaker 1: three runs, five and a third innings two runs. I

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Speaker 1: feel like he's he just looks really good out there

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Speaker 3: What's what's Kate Horton going to do over the.

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Speaker 1: Next two weeks, three weeks whatever he's up here before

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Speaker 1: showed him Monagah gets back? How healthy? How quickly to

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Speaker 1: show him Monaga get back. That's not to say you

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Speaker 1: don't go get more started pitching. I think it may

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Speaker 1: determine what type of started pitching you go and get though.

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Speaker 1: Are you getting a back end rotation guy that you

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Speaker 1: just put in there and that's eating innings or are

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Speaker 1: you looking for an ace? And if you're looking for

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Speaker 1: an ace, are you looking for one who's here long term?

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Speaker 1: Are they willing to pay up that type of price

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Speaker 1: someone that's here for twenty six and twenty seven whatever

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Speaker 1: they can get. I don't know who's available yet. I

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Speaker 1: don't I don't love speculating on who's available in May.

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Speaker 1: We know the Marlins are selling. We understand that the Rockies.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the Rockies have a start, at least

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Speaker 1: that I haven't looked recently. But I don't think the

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Speaker 1: Rockies have a starter that anyone's desperate for. The White

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Speaker 1: Sox have a solid pitching. I'm not sure if they

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Speaker 1: have a picture that you just that's just like you

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Speaker 1: have to go get him, so so there there, there

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Speaker 1: will be I agree with you. It's both but that

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Speaker 1: and I could say the same about the bullpen. I

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Speaker 1: don't know who their best option is for closing yet.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you just have to go get a closer. And

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Speaker 1: we continue to have this date debate in the dugout.

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Speaker 1: I feel like every week we debate with someone about the.

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Speaker 3: Value of the bullpen.

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Speaker 1: I like the direction the bullpen is going, and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna stick with that. I just I like the direction

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Speaker 1: it's going. I think you need more to add more,

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Speaker 1: and maybe that is a lockdown closer to kind of

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Speaker 1: solidify all the rolls and and get guys so you

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Speaker 1: not think Ryan Presley is completely done. I am concerned

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Speaker 1: about Julian Merriweather and his performance, especially when he's throwing

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Speaker 1: ninety six instead of ninety eight. I thought Porter Hodges

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Speaker 1: outing yesterday was important or two days ago, whatever day

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Speaker 1: it was, Wednesday was important. But to see some swing

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Speaker 1: and miss again, finally, I feel like I hadn't seen

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Speaker 1: a lot of swing and missage. He walked a guy, whatever,

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Speaker 1: but he needs to get those strikeouts back going again.

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Speaker 1: You can't have he's a strikeout guy. He needs to

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Speaker 1: is I think you hit it spot on. Yes is

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Speaker 1: the answer. They go get both.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if there's such thing as being more.

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Speaker 1: Aggressive, because you're always getting relief pitching at the deadline.

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Speaker 3: You always aren't if.

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Speaker 1: You are in I mean, crap, the Cubs got a

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Speaker 3: They weren't in contention. Yeah, you know, you know what

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Speaker 3: they're gonna get. They're gonna get out getters.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, exactly, so so they there will be aggressive

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Speaker 1: to go get pitching. We will figure out what those

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Speaker 1: aggressive from that moment on. I would be surprised if

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Speaker 1: there's if there are any big moves but before then.

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Speaker 3: But I wouldn't be.

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Speaker 1: Surprised if if they just continue to like hover and

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Speaker 1: search for smaller moves. But they have so many of

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Speaker 1: doing with Tyson Miller and Ryan Brazier because that's probably

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Speaker 1: to get our hands on this guy and this team

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Speaker 1: is defaying him or something like that. But I think

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Speaker 1: we'll start hearing more things in about a month and

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Speaker 1: then and then you'll start seeing moves in about six

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Speaker 1: that's when you kind of start to see it like that.

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Speaker 1: After the first week of July, but it's mostly like also,

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Speaker 1: the draft kind of screws things up too, right, the

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Speaker 1: draft screws up how they how aggressive teams want to be.

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Speaker 1: So it's kind of after the All Star break, I

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Speaker 1: guess when things ramp up. Yeah, yeah, uh, all right,

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Speaker 1: let's let's actually take a break. Let's let's take this

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Speaker 1: break now and then and then we will come back

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Speaker 1: with the next question.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Patrick, My guess is we're going to be getting

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Speaker 1: this question every single time.

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Speaker 3: We ask for a mail bag.

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Speaker 1: When you look at the value that PCA brings to

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Speaker 1: the team, is their contract that is comparable to the

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Speaker 1: him to arbitration every year? The answer for me, the

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Speaker 1: way he's playing now is Corbyn Carrol. I did not

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Speaker 1: and I was higher. I was pretty high on PCA.

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Speaker 1: He is playing at an MVP superstar level. He has

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Speaker 3: That's how good he has played.

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Speaker 1: That if he's not constantly playing at this elite level,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and eleven million. That was Corbyn Carroll's deal.

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Speaker 2: I think Carol comp was sort of a reach for

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Cubs have him underclub control through twenty thirty.

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Speaker 2: Pete's game is such that and he's so young that

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Speaker 2: he doesn't need to be an offensive monster every single

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Speaker 2: And so the one contract that is not a comp

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Speaker 2: like the Cubs can present a really big number that

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Speaker 2: just doesn't make sense for Pete because his floor is

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Speaker 2: really high. Like as a worst case scenario, a ten year,

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Speaker 2: to a really high number in a Kevin Kiermeier way

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be I think it's gonna be hard. As

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Speaker 2: much as the Cubs love peakrow Armstrong and as much

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Speaker 2: a big time agency. I think finding that that common

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Speaker 2: ground will be difficult. But like that's not a big

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Speaker 2: deal because he's already under Cup control through the rest

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Speaker 2: rest of the decade. So I hope that's sort of

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Speaker 2: a grounding because you're right, this question is gonna keep

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Speaker 3: Know, he almost has to let it ride. Yeah, Uh,

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Speaker 3: it's you're right.

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Speaker 1: There were a lot of things that you said there

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Speaker 2: One hand all the reasons why it won't happen, and

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Speaker 1: All right, Patrick, question from Rob in a hypothetical trade

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Speaker 2: can probably feel pretty good about that. Whereas pitching is

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's not as sustainable, but like exactly that, if

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Speaker 2: this guy is a legitimate left handed bat on a

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Speaker 2: that and kind of invest elsewhere.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to, you know, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to crap on Cubs fans happiness right now and suggest

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Speaker 1: that Kyle that that's the only way he did.

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Speaker 2: Sort of speak that in Kyle Tucker's gone. So don't

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Speaker 2: you want to watch Moist's hit learn how to hit

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Speaker 2: big league pitching?

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Speaker 3: I don't know who knows, who knows what.

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Speaker 1: Let's say, you know, I'll remain optimistic for the sake

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Speaker 1: of Cubs fan sanity.

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Speaker 5: I will.

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Speaker 1: I will remain optimistic on that. But we won't dwell

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Speaker 1: on that. We don't need to talk that there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be so much more Kyle Tucker talk. I'm sure he's

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Speaker 1: he's slumping now, so fans are fans are upset. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they can maybe they can get them for a deal. Now,

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Speaker 1: you know, he'll take that discount. Now it's been it's

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Speaker 1: been a slow two weeks. I don't I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's happening, all right, Thanks so much for listening everyone.

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Speaker 3: I will meet the ang