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Speaker 4: Episode one forty eight of the Anak and Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 4: I know you're watching some NCAA wrestling kid over the

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Speaker 4: weekend three day course. I mean, can we even get

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Speaker 4: into what you were doing all weekend?

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Speaker 6: I know the last couple of years I've been taking

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Speaker 6: this psychology course, so like one weekend a month, it's

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Speaker 6: just like NonStop studying. It is like three days of

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Speaker 7: Some heavy stuff.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, it was it was cool and I but

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Speaker 6: I did get a chance to watch some of the

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Speaker 6: ncuba A wrestling really interesting. Saw a couple of the

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Speaker 6: March Madness games.

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Speaker 7: Pretty wild.

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Speaker 1: I saw.

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Speaker 6: I saw pretty wild, which I'm sure we'll talk about later.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, man, I haven't been able to watch too

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Speaker 6: much TV. And I got a baby too. I got

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Speaker 6: a baby line.

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Speaker 8: That's right, you're mixed in the baby.

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Speaker 4: You own a jiu jitsu school, which is another commitment

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Speaker 4: in and of itself. The NCUBA tournament was crazy, and

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Speaker 4: I know a lot of our audience maybe isn't locked

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Speaker 4: into every step of that. But those first four days

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Speaker 4: of the nc DOUBLEA Men's basketball tournament as compelling as

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Speaker 4: they've ever been for me. And of course you've got

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Speaker 4: one region all four of the top seeds out that

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Speaker 4: has never happened in nc DOUBLEA tournament history. And of

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Speaker 4: course it was h I mean I probably placed over

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Speaker 7: To go is the question.

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Speaker 4: It was good, it was profitable, you know, it should

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Speaker 4: Maryland Baltimore County twenty one to one, just ten bucks

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Speaker 4: I sent to you to just to prove it ten

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Speaker 8: So certainly not some massive wager.

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Speaker 4: I wish I had had the stones to put fifty

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Speaker 8: I mean, ten beans can flow.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's just kind of throwing money away and

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Speaker 4: NCAA wrestling, and it's hard that these two events happened simultaneously.

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Speaker 8: Pat Militic had a great quote over the weekend.

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Speaker 4: He said, wrestling or what the men do in winter

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Speaker 4: when I first started calling fights, the most valuable thing

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Speaker 4: But pretty entertaining stuff. I mean, some of these scrambles

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Speaker 8: I would think to listeners of this show.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, And you know, folks style wrestling is it's

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Speaker 6: And there's even some like Kyle Snyder, who was a

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Speaker 7: Like he was like, you know, like a thirty five

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Speaker 6: This guy is extremely mature, tremendous athlete, a very technical,

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Speaker 6: one of the greats, no doubt about it. Bow Nickel

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Speaker 6: This kid has just been a dynamo for Penn State.

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Speaker 8: Is it over?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 7: It is over? It is over.

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Speaker 6: And I was a little disappointed with the commentary because,

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Speaker 6: the matches overall were very good and it was fun

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Speaker 7: What are you gonna do?

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Speaker 4: What are you gonna do, but I normally get a

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Speaker 4: few free plays from our buddy Danny Rup, So I'm

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Speaker 4: disappointed that I didn't have any NCAA you bet on.

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Speaker 7: Here huh oh, yeah, that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, I think.

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Speaker 4: I went oero for five in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 8: Better this year.

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Speaker 4: Obviously we didn't play all right, So a lot to

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Speaker 4: get to today. So big show in London. As usual,

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Speaker 4: I get kind of jealous of these fight crowds in

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Speaker 4: to places like San Antonio, Texas, Charlotte, North Carolina. But

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Speaker 4: I digress. Big showing for Alexander Volkov. We'll talk to

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Speaker 4: Dan Hardy later about everything that was the UFC London event, also.

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Speaker 8: The UFC's first trip to Liverpool.

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Speaker 4: Kenny, and maybe I should bring it up with you

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Speaker 4: here as a longtime Liverpool FC fan and someone who

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Speaker 4: knows the area and how this live event is going

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Speaker 4: to be embraced. I'm not working the show, and you know, Kenny,

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Speaker 4: the first time in my life, I'm tempted to tech

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Speaker 4: Zach Candido and said, get me on that, get me

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Speaker 8: This is gonna be musty TV.

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Speaker 4: And I would think a very special ticket for a

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Speaker 6: No, absolutely, man, Liverpool fan base, they are a passionate group.

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Speaker 6: If you just look at the Liverpool FC fans, they

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Speaker 6: And with Darren Till of course being from Liverpool, what

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Speaker 6: Man, I mean, he already has kind of the makings

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Speaker 4: So a lot to get to today, But Kenny, let's

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Speaker 4: start with Alexander Volkov and I know it's been a

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Speaker 4: Chuck Mendenhall's article this morning on MMA fighting dot Com

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Speaker 6: Well, it was interesting because Volkoff, I know he said

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Speaker 4: And it's a short list of guys who have finished

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Speaker 6: I think if overhim wins, I think that's a fight

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Speaker 4: Channel ninety three afternoon drive by the way Monday through

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Speaker 4: Friday now for the Luke Thomas Show, and deservedly so.

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Speaker 4: The Great Luke Thomas is with us. Luke, how's your Monday, man?

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Speaker 4: What's going on?

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Speaker 9: Another day in Paradise? John Anak and Nny Florian, thank

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Speaker 4: Well, it's good to see as always, man, I know

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Speaker 9: I guess number one financing it. Not that you have

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Speaker 4: Know it's been a while since we have, spoken at

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Speaker 9: Week, yeah and then on top of that three podcasts

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Speaker 9: know how he's going to. DO i just know that

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00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,520
Speaker 9: the level he's on now seems deeply inadequate for.

439
00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,040
Speaker 6: Him but don't you think that that's kind of the

440
00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,600
Speaker 6: case for. ANYBODY i, mean we never really know how

441
00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,400
Speaker 6: anyone's going to pan. Out don't we just give him

442
00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:14,919
Speaker 6: that chance and see what?

443
00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,879
Speaker 9: HAPPENS i, think, So, KENNY i, MEAN i REALLY i

444
00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,560
Speaker 9: just don't buy these arguments, that, like, oh watching somebody

445
00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:26,000
Speaker 9: who is considered disabled would be some sort of.

446
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:27,640
Speaker 1: Horror this feels.

447
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,880
Speaker 9: Very, Smallville pleasantville nineteen, forties black and white thinking about

448
00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,840
Speaker 9: the world where it's just totally anachronistic. Look anytime someone

449
00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,000
Speaker 9: takes a, beating it's never necessarily a good. Look but

450
00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,119
Speaker 9: this idea that it would be uniquely upsetting maybe the

451
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,399
Speaker 9: people that have these ancient biases or. Something BUT i

452
00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,520
Speaker 9: really just don't think it's a very powerful. ARGUMENT i

453
00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,000
Speaker 9: think you're, Right, look did you do enough to merit

454
00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 9: a step up in? Competition that is the only relevant question,

455
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,200
Speaker 9: Here AND i just don't know what else he can

456
00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,240
Speaker 9: really do except beating all these. Guys he's already been

457
00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,600
Speaker 9: beating for another, three four or five six.

458
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,720
Speaker 7: Fights All, right you're THE. Ufc what would you?

459
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 10: Do?

460
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:05,120
Speaker 1: SO i think there's.

461
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,159
Speaker 9: Two arguments that have been or two paths, RATHER i

462
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 9: should say that had been laid, out and one has

463
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,359
Speaker 9: put him on The contender. Series if they're really that

464
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 9: hard up for, it and they're really that concerned about,

465
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 9: it do that.

466
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:14,400
Speaker 1: There.

467
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 9: OKAY i wouldn't necessarily be a post to WHAT i.

468
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,159
Speaker 9: Think it's a little, demeaning BUT i can't argue strenuously against.

469
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 9: It the other one is put him on a Fight pass,

470
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,199
Speaker 9: card put him on A Fox sports prelim.

471
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,239
Speaker 1: Card you wouldn't put him on the main.

472
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,680
Speaker 9: Card and give him somebody inside that top twenty five

473
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,160
Speaker 9: and see how it. Goes here's the interesting interesting thing about.

474
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 9: It now he's been retired for a, while but prior

475
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,679
Speaker 9: to him being, retired you want to talk about some

476
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,399
Speaker 9: of the guys that generated the most media outside of

477
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 9: combat sports media while being inside combat, sports but outside THE.

478
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 1: Ufc in other, words like.

479
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,240
Speaker 9: All the guys aren't in THE, ufc which fighter generates

480
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,120
Speaker 9: the most Attention Nick nowle before he retired was that.

481
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 9: GUY i absolutely believe if he got on any kind

482
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 9: of a wind, streak here'd be all kinds of media on.

483
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:54,919
Speaker 9: Him but if you want to slow roll him at

484
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 9: first to see how he Does ala Mackenzie dern or,

485
00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 9: something then you can do. That and by the, way

486
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 9: is there are really any evidence to suggest that McKenzie

487
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 9: dern is a BETTER mma fighter.

488
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 1: At this stage Than Nick.

489
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,119
Speaker 9: Newell, well there's not apples to apples to, apples, Right

490
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,640
Speaker 9: it's a different. Division she obviously has a tremendous background

491
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,120
Speaker 9: in jiu, jitsu but you guys saw her. Takedowns they need.

492
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 9: Work you saw her, Striking it needs. Work, yes there

493
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 9: are some limitations to the game Of Nick, Newell but

494
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 9: if you're asking me which one is MORE ufc ready

495
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 9: as we speak, TODAY i would vigorously argue It's.

496
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 4: Nick, newell and certainly he's going to have a hard

497
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 4: time getting opponents or maybe on THE ufc, level not

498
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 4: unlike A cm punk is there's some novelty appeal to

499
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 4: some of these lightweights.

500
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 8: Looking for a big. FIGHT i don't.

501
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 4: KNOW i, mean do they have any internal conversations about

502
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 4: how he can Face. CRANK i, Mean i'm not saying

503
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 4: it's a competitive advantage for him, loop but is that

504
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 4: even a part of the matchmaker's discussion as to what

505
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 4: that limb does or doesn't do for him in an octagon?

506
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 9: Set, yeah and again this is the. Problem without giving

507
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 9: him a chance to this, level there's just.

508
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: A lot of.

509
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 9: Uncertainty so if you go back and look at the,

510
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 9: tape you can, see of course he has the congeneral

511
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 9: amputation on his left. Side there's been a question about

512
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 9: well is he vulnerable to those strikes on that, Side and,

513
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 9: again outside Of Justin, gaichee there's no evidence of. That

514
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 9: even in The Justin gaechee, fight he was softing them

515
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 9: up with body. Shots he was softing them up with leg,

516
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 9: kicks and then adventure of the right hand found a.

517
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 9: Home we actually don't really. Know now you mentioned something

518
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 9: kind of, Interesting, well it's not really an. Advantage yes and. No,

519
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,239
Speaker 9: right here's my. Point, Remember Anthony, roblest the wrestler out

520
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 9: Of Arizona, state was a national champion in twenty eleven

521
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 9: and a three Time All. American he did not have

522
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 9: very much success in, freestyle so he went on to

523
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 9: do great things in folk style and collegiate and then

524
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 9: of course now as a motivational, speaker he's a. Commentator

525
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 9: he was doing it for The Wrestling championships over the.

526
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 9: Weekend here's my. Point no one in their right mind

527
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 9: could argue that not having a leg is an.

528
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: Advantage it's. Absurd, however it's a net.

529
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 9: Disadvantage but are there certain circumstances where it could be an.

530
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,199
Speaker 9: ADVANTAGE i am open to the argument that, potentially in

531
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,880
Speaker 9: certain scenarios you mentioned in the face, crank that it could.

532
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 9: Be it's an overall, disadvantage but it's a net disadvantage

533
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 9: because there are some different where it's not point being

534
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 9: it makes the fight more, Interesting it makes this whole

535
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 9: conversation a lot more different than you can have about

536
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 9: any other.

537
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 6: Fighter thirty to forty percent of fighters hold their hands

538
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 6: down by their waist, Anyway, Luke so it's, like, yeah same.

539
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: FOLD i made this point on my last.

540
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 9: Podcast i'm not picking on the guy because he could

541
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 9: not be a nicer, guy and he's got a great

542
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 9: fight coming up With Sam. Alvi BUT i talked About John.

543
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 9: Valante if you look at the guys in the top

544
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 9: ten who have the strike subscorb per, minute it's like

545
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 9: at right around one or so or less than. That

546
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 9: John valante is at over, five over. Five you need

547
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 9: to tell me he will take less shots Than Nick. Nowle,

548
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 9: maybe but that's hardly a.

549
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 8: Given, yeah, YEAH i.

550
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 4: Agree and as we said last, week the only place

551
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 4: For Nick newle to scratch this itch is THE, ufc

552
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 4: AND i hope he gets the. Opportunity all, Right but

553
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 4: in nineteen, days And Luke, thomas by the, way with

554
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 4: us here on The Anakin florian, podcast nineteen, days they

555
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 4: will And i'm not saying hopefully they, will they will

556
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 4: close the octagon door and inside that cage will Be

557
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 4: Tony ferguson And Biebner. Mogmetov you, know we can't even

558
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 4: talk about this fight without smile and ear to. EAR i,

559
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 4: mean do you share this just overwhelming anticipation and enthusiasm

560
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 4: for this championship.

561
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,199
Speaker 9: FIGHT i cannot tell you how EXCITED i am for.

562
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 9: This in, Fact i'm working on a video about. It

563
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 9: but here's my basic. Belief not to give too much.

564
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 9: Away i'm not saying this is going to be the

565
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 9: best fight, ever BECAUSE i don't know. That And i'm

566
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 9: not saying that this is going to turn out that

567
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 9: this is going to be the biggest selling event because

568
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 9: it probably won't. Be BUT i think if you know

569
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 9: anything ABOUT, mma and all of us at this table

570
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 9: know Some kenny a little bit more than the rest of,

571
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 9: us but we are all competent speakers here about. This

572
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 9: this is basically as good AS mma.

573
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 3: Gets more or.

574
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 9: Less you can get bigger, fights you can get bigger

575
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 9: pomp and, circumstance you can get better rivalries and certain

576
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 9: capacities where it can be a little more. Personal there's

577
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 9: always something that's missing in any, fight but basically this

578
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 9: is the very best. Division these are two guys who

579
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 9: are destined they have to fight each, other not Because

580
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 9: i'm declaring it, so but because life has just keep

581
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 9: making them get into each other's. Orbit the fourth time

582
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 9: they're gonna make. It the stakes could not be. Bigger,

583
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 9: Obviously connor McGregor lightweight. Title you have his incredible talent

584
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 9: in number man up twenty five and, zero basically unheard.

585
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 9: Of if the guy choose nails is from this incredible

586
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 9: part of the, world and then you Havening tony ferguson

587
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 9: this other. Guy he might also chew, nails but for

588
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 9: different reasons because he's his on his own.

589
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: Planet but that's the whole.

590
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 9: Thing you've got this guy who's got this orthodox skill

591
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,959
Speaker 9: set that's totally doesn't make sense for MODERN mma if

592
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 9: you really think about. It and then you get another

593
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 9: one who's like the best of MODERN mm and some

594
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 9: respects as. Well and AS i mentioned, before it's in

595
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 9: the best. DIVISION i, mean this is truly LIKE i

596
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 9: always tell, folks what's the fight WHERE i wait around

597
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 9: to recommend, to you, know casual, audiences WHEN i want

598
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 9: to go to tell my friends in sports, media hey,

599
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 9: man this is the one you should.

600
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: Watch this is at the top.

601
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 9: Of the, list even more so than A connor McGregor,

602
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 9: fight BECAUSE i know they'll catch that. Anyway this to

603
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 9: me is BASICALLY mma at its highest and most important,

604
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 9: level AND i have not NEARLY i could go on

605
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 9: for an hour in terms of all the.

606
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: SUPERATIVES i want it on it.

607
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 4: And hopefully half a million homes by, it because it's

608
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 4: all about people seeing this.

609
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 8: Fight all.

610
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 4: RIGHT a few rapid fire questions here on the way

611
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 4: out With Luke. Thomas we know you're A dc sports.

612
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,959
Speaker 4: Guy The, wizards you, know it's kind of up and

613
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 4: down this, year a little momentum right. Now they're the

614
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 4: number four seed at. Present do they win a playoff?

615
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 4: Series comemey And.

616
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 9: Jim, No, NO i don't Think sataranski has been a

617
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 9: bit of a. REVELATION i think his game actually Fits

618
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 9: Bradley beal, better But john wall is an overall better.

619
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: Player he's still out that knee.

620
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 9: INJURY i just don't trust it because he came back

621
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 9: and he didn't look.

622
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 1: Himself he's been out all this.

623
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 9: TIME i think they're a good, team but they're an incomplete,

624
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 9: team and they're a hobble.

625
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: Team.

626
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 4: No, yeah maybe one big piece away all, Right So

627
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 4: Kirk cousins now Out alex Smith in as the. Quarterback

628
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 4: but the question Is redskins thirteenth ough overall pick coming

629
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 4: up in next MONTH'S nfl. Draft if you have that,

630
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 4: pick are you going defense or are you going with

631
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 4: the wide?

632
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 8: Receiver maybe going?

633
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 9: Offense oh, well that's, interesting it's going to be a tough.

634
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 10: One.

635
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: HM i hadn't thought about too much of.

636
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 9: THAT i would, say Probably i'm gonna go and the

637
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 9: defense needs some, help but that's, YEAH i would go.

638
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 9: Defense they can find some white house probably on free.

639
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 9: Agency they never really recovered after the loss Of Pierre

640
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 9: garzona in that slot. Position but on the defensive, side,

641
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 9: yes at the end there you Had Ryan carigan and

642
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 9: doing all the things that he's been, doing but they

643
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 9: got a lot of really incompete polices pieces. THERE i

644
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 9: frankly think at the safety position they've never recovered since

645
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 9: the death Of Sean.

646
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: Taylor so, yeah let's go.

647
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 4: Defense, yeah all, Right and last, thing you got this

648
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 4: NEW t shirt company, now as if you needed another,

649
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 4: avenue it's pretty. Exciting can you tell us a little

650
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 4: bit about THE t shirt company and when it ultimately

651
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 4: will be off the?

652
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 3: Ground, well, WELL i MEAN.

653
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 9: I don't even have a name for this thing, yet

654
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 9: so it's very much ham. Fisted let me put that

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Speaker 9: Received it could be a dramatic, failure but what DO

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Speaker 9: i have to lose, nothing so might as well try

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Speaker 9: it'll be out On.

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Speaker 1: Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: NICE i love it, man no and as another cornerstone

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Speaker 8: Flori all, Right so back to THE Ufc.

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Speaker 4: London, stuff and we talked About Alexander volkov could be

746
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 4: in a little bit of a holding, pattern but a

747
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 4: huge win for him against Fabriciover. Doom and For, DOOM i,

748
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 4: think even though maybe he's coming up on thirty nine

749
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 4: or forty years, old or maybe even cross forty at this,

750
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 4: Point i'm not, sure but he's a guy who's still

751
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 4: going to fight for a few more years and every

752
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 4: fight For doom's going to be involved in is going

753
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 4: to be a big.

754
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 8: One so we'll see where he goes from.

755
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 4: Here as for the co feature, Here, kenny it's kind

756
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 4: of funny because the backdrop to this was the rematch

757
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 4: that nobody is calling for and it ended up being

758
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 4: the fight of the night and just had a lot

759
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 4: of meat on the. Bone Yan bohovich this time gets

760
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 4: the rematch on the road From Jimmy manner and a

761
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 4: big win for, him certainly in terms of the peking

762
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 4: order in this light heavyweight, division Perhaps Jimmy manawa in

763
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 4: terms of that title, shot likely not gonna happen, now

764
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 4: but big.

765
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 8: Win For blohovich, Here.

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00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 4: Kenny and AGAIN i think when this guy is, on

767
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 4: this guy's a problem for The Aliir latifi's and the

768
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 4: guys in that top.

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00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 7: Ten man he's like that disease that just won't go.

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00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 7: Away it's it's.

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00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 6: Crazy you can hurt, him but he's gonna be right

772
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 6: there in your, face fighting every single last. Second AND

773
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 6: i mean when did they fight for the first, Time

774
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 6: like a couple of, years three years, ago.

775
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 8: Maybe twenty, fifteen and it was In.

776
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 6: Poland, yeah And manawa it seemed like he kind of

777
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 6: cruised to a victory.

778
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 7: There not the. Case not the.

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00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 6: Case over the, Weekend, BLAHOVICH i, thought just showed that

780
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 6: Same polish grit that he always. SHOWS i think the

781
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 6: big difference for him were the, takedowns mixing things up

782
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 6: once he was able to get around the legs or

783
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 6: get to that clinch. Aspect manawa just was not, prepared

784
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 6: it seemed for that ended up Catching, maniwa knocked him

785
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 6: down with the nice, shot actually slipped a nice angle

786
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 6: and Dropped. MANIWA i think that Through maniwa off for

787
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 6: the majority of the. Fight it seemed like he just

788
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 6: couldn't get any like real momentum. Going, actually you, know

789
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 6: it had some good, moments but it just seemed like

790
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,959
Speaker 6: it Was blahovich who was really you, know in the driver's.

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00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 4: Seat So Yan bohovich wins The comain event thirty to

792
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 4: twenty seven and then twenty nine to twenty eight times.

793
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 4: Too he had the late takedown in that third round

794
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 4: THAT i think really sealed the. Deal but this was

795
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 4: his fight and, ARGUABLY i think is the biggest win

796
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 4: of his. CAREER i know you didn't see the fight

797
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 4: Between Tom duke And watt And terry On where and

798
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 4: before we talk about two twenty three and bring On Dan,

799
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 4: HARDY i just want to bring this up in the

800
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 4: context of the, scoring because there are a lot of

801
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 4: people who Believe terry On ware did enough to win this.

802
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 4: Fight volume takedowns secured a lot of, them didn't do

803
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 4: a ton with them, necessarily but controlled the, cage threw

804
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 4: more volume though he didn't do as much. Damage AND

805
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 4: i know it's very sensitive when you talk to fans

806
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 4: about this type of. Stuff and For terry On, Where

807
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 4: he's lost three in THE, ufc all against pretty high level.

808
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 4: Competition Dukeane, Wa Cody, Stamen sean. O'Malley i GUESS i

809
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 4: just feel like When i'm watching, clean powerful shots land From,

810
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 4: dukene why even though he's the guy who's retreating and

811
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 4: not as consistent with his. OFFENSE i feel, like by and,

812
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 4: large over fifteen, minutes he's doing more damage that that

813
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 4: guy should win the. Fight it's not That i'm all

814
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 4: aboard The dukene what train right, now BUT i just

815
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 4: thought he did enough to win the.

816
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 8: Fight where do you stand on that?

817
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 4: Stuff when it comes to octagon control and the advancing,

818
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 4: party you, know getting the nod in rounds that could

819
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 4: go either.

820
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 6: Way, well here's the. THING i think you pretty much

821
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 6: summed it. UP i think it does come down to.

822
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 6: Damage we have to remind ourselves it's a. Fight did

823
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 6: you beat the other guy up more than he beat you?

824
00:34:59,400 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 7: Up?

825
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 6: RIGHT I mean that's kind of what it is at

826
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 6: the end of the. Day how much damage did you

827
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 6: do to the other?

828
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 1: Person?

829
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 7: Right, SO i think that's what it comes down.

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00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 6: To you, know IF i go and advance on, someone

831
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 6: But i'm getting my ass kicked Or i'm getting beat

832
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 6: up more than he, is it doesn't matter If i'm moving, forward,

833
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 6: RIGHT i, mean it does come down to, damage you,

834
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 6: know if you look at it and some kind of

835
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 6: another kind of combat.

836
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 7: SCENARIO i have ten, men you have ten.

837
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 6: Men right at the end of that, battle you're left

838
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 6: with three AND i have, SIX i should.

839
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 7: WIN i mean it comes down to, damage.

840
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah and we will talk To Dan hardy about

841
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 4: this BECAUSE i think his call sort of spoke to

842
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 4: maybe A terry on where. WIN i don't even know

843
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 4: what his scorecard. Was we don't require that of our

844
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 4: commentators to give their scorecards on the, air BUT i

845
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 4: just think it's interesting and in the context of what

846
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 4: this fight does for both, Guys i'm a little bit

847
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 4: tempered in my enthusiasm On Tom duke And, terry And

848
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 4: ware said publicly he is going to get another fight

849
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 4: in THE, ufc AND i would hope that he, would you,

850
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 4: know do a little bit more with it than he'd

851
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 4: did with this. One not to say that he didn't

852
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 4: do enough in the eyes of some to win this,

853
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 4: fight BUT i just feel, like in that third, round

854
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 4: when you feel like maybe YOUR ufc career lies in the,

855
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 4: balance let's really go for it and take some risks

856
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 4: and you, know maybe walk back to the dressing room

857
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 4: a little bit more beat up or concussed if need. Be,

858
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 4: SO i felt like where was a little bit risk

859
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 4: averse down the stretch but OVERALL i thought it was

860
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 4: a competitive fight and a big win For Tom. Doukangwa all,

861
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 4: right more With Dan hardy coming up at about ten.

862
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 4: Minutes BUT i want to segue now TO ufc two twenty.

863
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 4: Three we talked about her Be normongo metav And Tony

864
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 4: ferguson a lot last. WEEK i want to quickly get

865
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 4: your thoughts on this co main event because these fights

866
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 4: are going to be here before we know. It Yo,

867
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 4: wanna you And jcheck trying to get her title back

868
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 4: Against Rose noami yunis right, now she is favored to do.

869
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 4: So she is minus one p Fifty Noma yumas coming

870
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 4: back at plus one. Twenty now the first, Fight kenny

871
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 4: didn't give us a ton of footage to. Digest what

872
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 4: are your expectations for what we're going to see in

873
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 4: the rematch and How joanna might try to combat What

874
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 4: rose did well and make the requisite adjustments here in

875
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 4: advance of this fight coming Up april.

876
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 6: Seven this is really, interesting right because we have the

877
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 6: stuff that happened outside of the octagon where a lot

878
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 6: of people believed and we're talking About Yoanna young J

879
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 6: chick and her terrible. Weightcut it just it seemed like

880
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 6: everything went. Wrong and if you're not, proper properly, rehydrated

881
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 6: and if you did have a rough, weightcut obviously your

882
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 6: body's not going to be so prepared on fight. Night you,

883
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 6: know a shot that maybe wouldn't have dropped you on

884
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 6: a good night might drop. You Now i'm not making

885
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 6: that excuse for, her but there are some question marks

886
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 6: around that. Performance here's the, thing, though when you look

887
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 6: at some Of juanna's performances in the, past it does

888
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 6: take her a little while to warm.

889
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 7: Up she did when she did get.

890
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 6: Dropped she got dropped Against Claudia goadelli in her first

891
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 6: fight with a right, hand got, dropped got sat on her.

892
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 6: Butt and sometimes you see even some of her best

893
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 6: performances once she finds her, rhythm, boy you are in.

894
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 6: Trouble it's kind of Like Anderson silva when he was

895
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 6: in his. Prime these are strikers that kind of go

896
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 6: off of. Rhythm they go, off you, know analyzing what

897
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 6: their opponents are, doing and then once they get onto

898
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 6: what they're, doing then they pick you. Apart you want

899
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 6: a Young Jake check is kind of cut from that. Cloth,

900
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 6: now four rows she just never gave her a, Chance

901
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 6: she went she charged, her she went, forward she pressured.

902
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 6: Her it was all big. Shots she was looking for

903
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 6: combinations and obviously has that. Power so it's. Tough and

904
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 6: then you talk about the mental hurdle that you want

905
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 6: is gonna have to deal with. Here you, know she

906
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 6: just suffered the most devastating loss of her. Career it was,

907
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 6: embarrassing especially given all the trash talk she was saying

908
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 6: during that fight leading up to that. Fight so what

909
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 6: does that do to your mental state heading into? This

910
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 6: if she can put all that behind her, exactly if

911
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 6: she can put all that stuff behind, HER i think

912
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 6: we're gonna have a tremendous. Fight and For, ROSE i,

913
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 6: think you, know, again she's gonna feel, like you, know

914
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 6: the underdog heading into, this have a little bit of

915
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 6: a chip on her, shoulder and not be respect as

916
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 6: respected as you.

917
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 4: SHOULD i wonder If Yoanna Young jcheck would have liked

918
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 4: a little bit more time before this rematch came. AROUND

919
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 4: i think her ideal scenario would have been to Have

920
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 4: rose defend the belt. Successfully, ideally but either, Way yoanna's

921
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 4: next fight was going to be for the, belt and

922
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 4: the division must go, on so here it does On april.

923
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 4: SEVENTH i feel, like for Rosanama, Yunis you're exactly, right

924
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 4: the chip is still there on her. Shoulder i'm very

925
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 4: curious to see her prove herself over twenty five minutes

926
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 4: in a championship scenario Against Joanna Young, jcheck BECAUSE i

927
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 4: think she has the tools and the skills and the

928
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 4: cardio and everything else to really prove herself and her

929
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 4: greatness over twenty five. Minutes sometimes you get a quick

930
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 4: knockout and people have some appreciation for it and, say,

931
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 4: Oh Trevor whitman's a, mastermind but they don't, say, man

932
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 4: Rosanama unis might go down as the greatest one hundred

933
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 4: and fifteen pound fighter of all. Time nobody's saying, that.

934
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 4: Right So i'm excited to see this fight go a

935
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 4: little bit. Longer not THAT i felt short change necessarily

936
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 4: by the quick, result BUT i expect a Prime rose

937
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 4: Nama unis And. KENNY i feel like she entered this

938
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 4: series feeling like she was gonna have to Beat yoanna

939
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 4: twice right, away right like when you're taking on a

940
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 4: long reigning champion Like Chris wyman And Anderson, silva aren't

941
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 4: you almost like when YOU i don't. KNOW Bj penny

942
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 4: was a little bit later in his, career but almost

943
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 4: going in there AGAINST bj Pen kenny thinking IF i

944
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 4: beat this, Guy i'm proably gonna have to beat him

945
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 4: twice to, really you, know continue my.

946
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 8: Title.

947
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 7: Right it's.

948
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 6: Interesting you, KNOW i actually had an opportunity to talk

949
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 6: To pat And rose when they were At, fox and they,

950
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 6: said you, know we don't even act like we're the

951
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 6: champion right. Now you know the. Belt you, know we're

952
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 6: almost scared of that. Belt we put it in a.

953
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 6: Closet we don't even look at.

954
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: It they.

955
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 6: Said if we looked at it like, once you, know

956
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 6: we kind of looked At, okay, yeah well we're the,

957
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 6: champ all, right all, right let's put it. Away and

958
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 6: they kind of just. Don't they don't want to have

959
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 6: that kind of championship complacency affect them at, all not

960
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 6: that it, would but they don't want it. There you,

961
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 6: know they don't want to kind of get too comfortable

962
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 6: knowing that they are world.

963
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 7: Champs you know That rose is a world.

964
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 6: Champ so for, HER i think she probably is feeling

965
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 6: like she has to go out there and win that belt.

966
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 4: Again AND i think the solution in terms of the

967
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 4: weight cutting For yohanna will just be to come in

968
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 4: a little bit lighter and get ahead of. IT i

969
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 4: think you have a lot of athletes to leave a

970
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 4: lot of things up to circumstances going right very well

971
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 4: during fight, Week. KENNY i know you, laugh AND i

972
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 4: know you had some cuts that were harder than, Others but,

973
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 4: yeah correct me If i'm. WRONG a lot of the

974
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 4: higher level fighters who are getting plagued by, this it's

975
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 4: not that they've ever had problems, before, necessarily but their

976
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 4: system is such that they leave a lot of lbs

977
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 4: for those final few, days and when they don't come

978
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 4: off that, easily panic sets in and it becomes even

979
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 4: harder to cut the.

980
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 6: Way there's no doubt about, It, John and you know

981
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 6: the reality is in this, game there's so much that

982
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 6: could go. Wrong there's so many. Things yet as a

983
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 6: professional fighter you have to be aware Of you have

984
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 6: to have a tremendous team around, you whether it's your,

985
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 6: nutritionist you know you're a, chef your striking, coach you're wrestling,

986
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 6: coach your jiu jitsu, coach your strength. Conditioning everything needs

987
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 6: to be perfect or close to. Perfect so if you

988
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 6: don't get one thing right at this, game because now

989
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 6: the fighters are fighting at such a high. Level one,

990
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 6: thing if it's, off it could be the difference between

991
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 6: winning and. Losing and that's just you, know forget about you,

992
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 6: know fight night where you have you, know judging and

993
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 6: refereeing that could go. WRONG i, mean the things even

994
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 6: that are under your so called control Is it's a

995
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 6: very difficult.

996
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 7: Thing. Man it's unlike any other.

997
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 8: Sport in the, world it really.

998
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 4: Is i'm just so curious to see what type of

999
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 4: pay per view numbers this event will do and what

1000
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 4: the internal metrics even are because when you look at

1001
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 4: this fight on, paper The Ferguson dermago metaw. Fight of

1002
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 4: course we Mentioned i'm a, unis you, Know. Jcheck you've

1003
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 4: also Got Calvin, Cater Hanato, Moykano Michael, Kiesa Anthony, pettis

1004
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 4: and then Ali A Quinta Paul felder the pay per view.

1005
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 8: Opener.

1006
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 4: RIGHT i just hope a lot of people see this

1007
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 4: because those last two fights in particular just such a

1008
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 4: great showcase for our, sport And, cater The boston guy

1009
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 4: ten wins in a, row he's favor to, Beat Hanato,

1010
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 4: Moykano Michael kisa has been a forgotten man a little

1011
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 4: bit of one hundred and fifty five. Pounds he's only

1012
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 4: fought twice since twenty. Fifteen the last fight was the

1013
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 4: main event Against Kevin lee Last june In Oklahoma.

1014
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 8: City so we'll see what he can.

1015
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 4: Do slight underdog Against Anthony pettis and of Course Iaquinton

1016
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 4: Paul Felder kenny a big fight at one hundred and

1017
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 4: fifty five. Pounds Ali A quinta has been idle for

1018
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 4: a little, bit so we'll see how that. Goes a

1019
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 4: lot of good stuff coming up AT ufc two twenty.

1020
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 4: Three all right now with us on the guest line as.

1021
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 4: Promised he was just on the call FOR Ufc london

1022
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 4: on the. WEEKEND i say on the weekend Because i'm

1023
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 4: trying to fit in with the. Locals, man what fans over?

1024
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 4: THERE ufc, commentator FORMER ufc title challenger and for now

1025
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 4: a ten time see Veteran Dan hardy is with. Us

1026
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 4: appreciate your time, tonight, Man how are you really?

1027
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 10: Good really? Good it's nice to nice to be talking

1028
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 10: to you guys.

1029
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 4: Again, well always a, pleasure as you, know AND i

1030
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 4: mentioned sort of the atmosphere off the top of the.

1031
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 4: SHOW Us americans are getting jealous of These european fight,

1032
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 4: crowds and i'd imagine for, you calling fights with that

1033
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 4: backdrop only enhances your own.

1034
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 10: Performance, yeah you, KNOW i think you can hear it

1035
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 10: in my.

1036
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 11: VOICE i react for the fans as soon AS i

1037
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 11: hear the atmosphere in the, ARENA i JUST i just follow.

1038
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 11: On and when you see a you, know a fight

1039
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 11: to get, caught a fight to go, down when you

1040
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 11: see a good, exchange when there's that buzz in the,

1041
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 11: arena That i'm Just i'm just a conduit for. That

1042
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 11: that just comes straight through. Me And london was, Amazing

1043
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 11: london's always, amazing But liverpool is going to be off the.

1044
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 8: Chart well, yeah we might as well start.

1045
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 4: There and can you just put into context why that

1046
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 4: is going to be such an amazing event and why

1047
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 4: people are talking about that as being you, Know doublin

1048
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 4: twenty five fourteen revisited for THE.

1049
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 11: Ufc, well you guys, know traveling around the, world there

1050
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 11: are certain places that you go and culturally the city

1051
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 11: has just got a different feel to. It the you,

1052
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 11: KNOW i Mean, dublin is that the best example you

1053
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 11: go To dublin and they unite for a party all

1054
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 11: night and it's amazing to, see you, know when all,

1055
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 11: lose all the fighters get the respect and get their.

1056
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 10: Love And liverpool is one of those kind of. Places

1057
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 10: it's a very working class.

1058
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 11: City the whole the whole industry was built around the,

1059
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 11: docks so it bred a very a very tough and

1060
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 11: very hardy kind of person and you, know with the

1061
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 11: weather being so, cold with it being like right on the,

1062
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 11: coast they're just they're just tough. People they like a,

1063
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 11: fight they're like a fist fight and they like a

1064
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 11: good night. Out and the last couple of times we've

1065
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 11: been up there For Cage, warriors we've Had Paddy pimlott

1066
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 11: on the, Card molly, mccam you, Know chris, fish Gold Lee.

1067
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 11: Chadwick there's a whole bunch of Those liverpoolian fighters that

1068
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 11: have already stirred this this real positive atmosphere in the

1069
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 11: city around mixed martial. Arts and you, Know Darren till's

1070
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 11: their figurehead at the, moment so to be able to

1071
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 11: bring him To, liverpool the fans are going to come

1072
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 11: out in. Force it will be the first time The

1073
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 11: Echo arenas sold Out.

1074
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 6: DAN i want to talk about the main event from this,

1075
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 6: Weekend volkov against Very. Doom what did you think Of

1076
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 6: Volkov's volkov's performance and do you think it was a

1077
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 6: case of Ver doom getting older now or was it

1078
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 6: Is volkov actually that?

1079
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 11: Good volkov is misleadingly. Good people don't realize he's got

1080
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 11: so much experience because he's fairly new to THE ufc.

1081
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 11: Roster you, know you've got to think that was his thirtieth.

1082
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 11: Win he's got nearly forty fights on his, record and

1083
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 11: he's been fighting Around, russia fighting some of the toughest

1084
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 11: guys that you, Know russia And europe have to. Offer

1085
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 11: he's a very very, tough very very hard and battle hardened.

1086
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 11: Individual but the thing that stands out to me about

1087
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 11: him is his. Discipline it's his ability to choose what

1088
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 11: he's going to do in the fight and stick to

1089
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 11: that game. Plan and what was fascinating about this is, that,

1090
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 11: obviously if Ver doom feels very much like he's just

1091
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 11: going to work his way back to the fighting whoever

1092
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 11: they put in front of, him he's not necessarily making

1093
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 11: this the most strategic decisions and calling out the right

1094
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 11: individual to get him to that title. Shot he's just

1095
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 11: trying to stay active and trying to, fight AND i

1096
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 11: greatly respect, that but that does limit your amount of

1097
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,959
Speaker 11: time to prepare for each individual, opponent and that maybe

1098
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 11: because they've faced each other. BEFORE i, mean they have

1099
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 11: been sparring partners. Before so, oh my little dog's just

1100
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 11: come to see his come on then a.

1101
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 7: This Is, yes she looks. Dangerous she looks.

1102
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 6: Dangerous oh, yeah he's got a wicked sprawl with.

1103
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 10: Toy that's.

1104
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 6: Awesome, Man hey, listen, WELL i want to talk about

1105
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 6: the other main event that's coming up AT ufc two twenty.

1106
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 6: Three just a banger of a matchup, Man Tony ferguson

1107
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 6: taking On Habib nirmaga made.

1108
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 7: Off how do you see that one going?

1109
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 11: Down i'm leaning at the moment Towards KABEB i JUST

1110
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 11: i feel, LIKE i, MEAN i, mean he's you, know he's.

1111
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 10: Undefeated every time he's stepped in, there it's.

1112
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 11: Worked his game plan is been never been, beaten.

1113
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 10: And he really does the same thing every.

1114
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 11: Time the only time we've seen him slightly vulnerable was

1115
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 11: that first round Against Michael johnson where he got caught

1116
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 11: for a. Second AND i think That If Tony ferguson

1117
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 11: is going to, win it's going to be one of

1118
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 11: those kinds of.

1119
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 10: Situations it will be you, know.

1120
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 11: That crazy switch step forward that he does when he's

1121
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 11: throwing his one two that catches people by. Surprise it'll

1122
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 11: be a wild spinning elbow as defending a, takedown or

1123
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 11: it'll be something crazy off his, back something that could

1124
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 11: be is not necessarily prepared for because he doesn't have

1125
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 11: that very free, flowing Creative Tenth planet style to work.

1126
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 11: With he's got a very, discipline fundamentally sound approach to,

1127
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 11: grappling whereas Obviously Tony ferguson he can pull things out

1128
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 11: of his back pocket that you've never seen. Before so

1129
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 11: there is a danger element there For, Kabeb but the

1130
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 11: steamroller that is Kabib is is pretty hard to defeat for.

1131
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 4: ANYBODY i Think Dan hardy with us here on The

1132
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 4: Anakin florian, podcast and we all of course look forward

1133
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 4: To inside The, octagon As i'm sure you do FOR

1134
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 4: ufc two twenty, three and just breaking down what most

1135
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 4: of us believe is the best fight that this promotion

1136
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 4: can put down on. PAPER i just find it, Interesting,

1137
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 4: dan and we're spending a few minutes with you on

1138
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 4: this because it'll probably be the last time we talked

1139
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 4: to you before the. Fight i'm going to be interested

1140
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 4: to see which experts get Behind Tony ferguson and make

1141
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 4: a case for him to win this, fight because on,

1142
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 4: PAPER i believe him to be the most ACCOMPLISHED ufc

1143
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 4: lightweight of all time with these ten consecutive, wins the

1144
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 4: five round win Over Halfayel dosanjos At altitude No, less

1145
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 4: And i'm excited to hear people make the argument For

1146
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 4: Tony ferguson because, candidly most experts like yourself And kenny

1147
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 4: THAT i trust in a Landslide, dan everybody's Picking kabeb

1148
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 4: in this.

1149
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 11: Fight it's understandable, though you, know With kabev's style and physiologically.

1150
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 10: As, well if you think about how these two guys match.

1151
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 11: Up So kabeb wants to stay very close to, you

1152
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 11: wants to tie you, up he wants to smother. You

1153
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 11: he wants To one of my favorite phrase And i've

1154
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 11: stolen it From Dank carlin's hardcore, histories he wants to

1155
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 11: use the fence and the canvases as and anvil And

1156
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 11: hammery's opponent against.

1157
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 10: It and when you're as.

1158
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 11: Tall and as lanky and as long reaching As Tony,

1159
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 11: ferguson space is your. Friend you, know we always talk

1160
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 11: about a reach. Advantage Stephan struve's got the longest reach

1161
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 11: in THE, ufc but that's not been an advantage when

1162
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 11: he's Faced Roy nelson And Mark, hunt who have been considerably.

1163
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 11: Smaller it's all about, perspective And kabim can nullify that

1164
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 11: reach advantage by smashing him into that corner and giving

1165
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,439
Speaker 11: him The Mark kerr. Treatment and if he does, that

1166
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 11: it's going to be very difficult For Tony ferguson to

1167
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 11: do anything off of his. Back it's much more of

1168
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 11: a A Frankie Edgayaya rodriguez type of, situation but obviously

1169
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 11: on a much higher level when it comes to.

1170
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: Grappling.

1171
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 4: Yeah one final note on THE Ufc london, show IF

1172
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 4: i could go back for a, second the fight Between

1173
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 4: Tom Dukan wha And Terry On where not exactly sure

1174
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 4: how you felt about the decision based upon your, CALL

1175
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 4: i felt like maybe you felt Like where didn't get

1176
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 4: enough credit for his offense and for controlling the octagon at.

1177
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 4: Times but how do you sort of see a guy

1178
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 4: who does more damage versus a guy who is active.

1179
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 4: THROUGHOUT i know you're not a, judge you're not asked

1180
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 4: to give your scorecard on the, air but did you

1181
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 4: have a hard time coining a winner in that particular?

1182
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 8: Fighter, No i'll be.

1183
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 11: HONEST i was a little bit. SURPRISED i was surprised

1184
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 11: at the. Victory And i'll tell you. WHY i was

1185
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 11: surprised BECAUSE i didn't take My french translator with me

1186
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 11: into the. INTERVIEW i, ACTUALLY i, SAID i said on the,

1187
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 11: headset as you, know you, know we speak to the.

1188
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 11: TRUCK i, said to the, truck SHALL i take the

1189
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 11: translator with? Me and BEFORE i got an, ANSWER i

1190
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 11: was called to the. Octagon SO i put the headset

1191
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 11: down and headed. In AND i just to be honest

1192
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 11: That i'd scored it two to one For, terran WHERE

1193
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 11: i Thought duken whar won the first, round but only

1194
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 11: just only, Just and THEN i felt like he faded

1195
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 11: because he's got such movement in his his in his,

1196
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 11: style it's very difficult to pin him down in the

1197
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 11: Early but as the fight wears, ON i, mean AS

1198
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 11: i said that in the in the, commentary is the

1199
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 11: fight wears? On Terrrian ware comes into his own and

1200
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 11: his consistent persistence for that second third round for, me

1201
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 11: won him the.

1202
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 4: Fight that's a good way to put. IT i think

1203
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 4: his consistent. PERSISTENCE i just felt like he was a

1204
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 4: little bit risk averse down the. Stretch but just want

1205
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 4: to get your take on that all right before we

1206
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 4: let you. Go so a lot of our listeners know.

1207
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 4: This so the LAST ufc fight For Dan hardy Ken,

1208
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 4: fall AND i called it it was your Hometown, Nottingham,

1209
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 4: England september twenty, nine twenty. Twelve you beat him Here,

1210
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 4: sadala your second consecutive, win and at some point. THEREAFTER

1211
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 4: i won't divulge all the, history but you had a

1212
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 4: medical issue diagnosed that prevented you from being cleared to,

1213
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 4: fight even though you felt okay to. Fight SO i

1214
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 4: would be remissed IF i didn't at least bring this.

1215
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 4: Up you're my, friend we have talked about this off the.

1216
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 4: Air we see you training On instagram and it's not

1217
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 4: just a few. Weeks you've been working hard for. Months

1218
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 4: is that a means to an? End and how? Realistic

1219
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 4: is at least one more fight for the? Outlaw the

1220
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 4: masses want to.

1221
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 11: Know the most asked question after how did you get

1222
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 11: out of the on bar Against? Jess there is another

1223
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 11: fight for. Me there has to, be Because i've been

1224
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 11: talking about it for too. Long it's within me AND

1225
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 11: i WAS i was stopped halfway through a training, camp

1226
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 11: and for, me that energy kind of gets caught up

1227
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 11: inside me AND i need To it's like an.

1228
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 10: EXORCISM i need to get it. Out WHAT i would

1229
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 10: like to.

1230
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 11: DO i, Mean i've considered going down to fifty. Five

1231
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 11: i'm walking around about one eighty two at the. Moment

1232
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 11: i'm a lot closer to welterweight THAN i ever have.

1233
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 11: BEEN i used to start training camp over two hundred,

1234
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 11: pounds So i'm a lot smaller and a.

1235
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 10: Lot leaner THAN i have ever have.

1236
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:32,959
Speaker 11: BEEN i, mean you can see that When i'm standing

1237
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 11: next To Darren till on the broadcast and how big

1238
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 11: that gorilla. Is but if you, know if the matchup's,

1239
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,720
Speaker 11: right the weight class really doesn't. Matter WHAT i would

1240
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 11: like to. Do If i'm, DAYDREAMING i would like TO

1241
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 11: i would like to introduce a new one sixty two

1242
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 11: weight class to THE ufc. ROSTER i think that would

1243
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 11: be an excellent stopping point between lightweight and well to

1244
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 11: weight for the guys Like cowboy and Dosam, jos you,

1245
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 11: know to move Through masfadel's another, one and then you've got.

1246
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 10: A few welter weights that are slightly too.

1247
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 11: Big the lights of going to slightly too, small you,

1248
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 11: know the lights Of Gunna, Nelson Mike, perry even you,

1249
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 11: Know Corby covingson could probably make one sixty. Two AND

1250
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 11: i think we could have another weight. CLASS i think

1251
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 11: it would you, know we would make the most out

1252
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 11: of another, champion AND i think it would be a

1253
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 11: really fascinating and really competitive weight.

1254
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 10: Class and WHAT.

1255
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 11: I would like to do is have the first fight

1256
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 11: at one sixty. TWO i, mean you, know you pick an.

1257
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 11: Opponent there's a whole bunch of guys that you could

1258
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 11: put in, there or you, know good veterans that would

1259
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 11: give me a good. Scrap BUT i think that would

1260
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 11: make the most sense because that would Be that was

1261
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 11: always my dream weight. CLASS i did one sixty a

1262
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 11: couple of times, before and that Was. Okay i'm smaller

1263
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 11: than THAT i was, then SO i feel LIKE i

1264
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 11: COULD i could make that weight class much more comfortably

1265
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 11: and perform much. Better and WHEN i was at one,

1266
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 11: SEVENTY i was too, BIG i was too. Slow my

1267
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 11: best performances were At Cage. Warriors SO i would like,

1268
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 11: to you, know show people one last time What i'm

1269
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 11: actually capable.

1270
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 4: Of, WELL i really hope that you get that, opportunity

1271
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 4: And i'm on board with the weight. CLASS i don't

1272
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 4: love sixty, five BUT i think you split the difference

1273
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 4: with lightweight and welterweight one hundred and sixty two one

1274
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 4: hundred sixty three. POUNDS i think it makes all the

1275
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 4: sense in the. World he Is Dan, hardy for my,

1276
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 4: money really one of the sharper minds in the. Game

1277
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 4: AND i know you have such an appetite for this,

1278
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 4: stuff AND i really think it does translate on the.

1279
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 4: Broadcast so keep up the good, work my. Friend we'll

1280
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,720
Speaker 4: let you get back to. It thank you for carving

1281
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 4: out a few minutes. Today we'll see you later this.

1282
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 4: Year i'm.

1283
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: Sure no, worries.

1284
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 10: Guys always good talking to.

1285
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: You all.

1286
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 4: Right there Is Dan hardy with us here on The

1287
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 4: Anakin florian. Podcast And, KENNY i don't know if you

1288
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 4: would say that you were able to leave fighting on

1289
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 4: your own. TERMS i know you had a back injury

1290
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 4: several months after The josealdo fight that ultimately caused you

1291
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 4: to make that decision In december of twenty. Eleven but

1292
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 4: For Dan, hardy he was in the middle of a

1293
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:43,240
Speaker 4: training camp for a fight and this diagnosis came down

1294
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 4: and it was some sort of heart, ISSUE i, Believe

1295
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 4: but it's nothing that he ever knew, about nor is

1296
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 4: it something that has ever given him anything resembling a.

1297
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 4: Problem and he just he can't get out of get

1298
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 4: it out of his, Head kenny to fight one more?

1299
00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 8: Time?

1300
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 4: Right he has all of that is you heard him,

1301
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 4: say sort of bottled up. Inside what do you?

1302
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 7: Do?

1303
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 4: Right the only thing you can do is hope and

1304
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 4: pray that that you get cleared and you get at

1305
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 4: least that one FINAL ufc fight to get the closure

1306
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 4: that he's so so sorely seems to.

1307
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 7: Need, well he absolutely deserves. It he absolutely deserves.

1308
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 6: It he has a big, Following he's been a lifelong martial.

1309
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 6: Artist this is a guy who truly loves what he.

1310
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 6: Does AND i can't imagine getting that news, first full

1311
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 6: out of, nowhere you, know hearing, that you know you

1312
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 6: have a potentially life threatening situation on your hands when

1313
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 6: you've been you, know a professional athlete for the last several,

1314
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 6: years so it was quite a shock to, him quite

1315
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 6: a shock to the mixed martial arts, community and it was.

1316
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 6: Unfortunate SO i don't, know you, know, medically how well he's.

1317
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 6: Doing it seemed like he's doing much much better he is.

1318
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 6: TRAINING i would love to see him fight. Again dan's

1319
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 6: a Guy i've always, respected a veteran of the, game

1320
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 6: and hopefully he gets that.

1321
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 7: Opportunity.

1322
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 6: Man AND i think that makes, sense you, know having

1323
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 6: that having that way class between one fifty five and

1324
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 6: one seventy whatever that sweet spot is one sixty two

1325
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 6: sounds pretty good to. ME i don't know what division

1326
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 6: we would call, it maybe super lightweight or something like,

1327
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 6: that BUT i think it does make a lot of.

1328
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 6: Sense you can certainly put some fighters in that weight

1329
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 6: class right off the.

1330
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 4: Bat, well if you think we have maybe two hundred

1331
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 4: combined at fifty five and, seventy and you take some

1332
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 4: of the elite guys and some other guys Like Drew

1333
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 4: doverers who would really enjoy that weight, CLASS i, think,

1334
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 4: yeah you call it super. LIGHTWEIGHT i think that makes

1335
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 4: a lot of. Sense and cool to hear him talk

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00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 4: About liverpool, too and just what this event is gonna.

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Speaker 8: Tomorrow all, right let's get To Ray. Longo it's now.

1362
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 3: Time for The Ray Long, minute And i'm.

1363
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 12: Going to punch a hole in this fucking Steps that's.

1364
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 3: WHAT i want The Ray Long minute during Ray Line

1365
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 3: John nnik And Kenny florian.

1366
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,919
Speaker 8: Podcast there he Is Ray.

1367
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 4: Long go see he's. Eaten at this, point we're keeping you.

1368
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 4: Waiting we're about seven minutes. Late we apologize for. That

1369
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 4: we had an international guests before, you SO i don't

1370
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 4: blame you for starting snack. Time, Man i'm.

1371
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 8: Sorry, No i'll tell.

1372
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 13: You first, Off Dan hardy what one of the gentlemen

1373
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 13: of mixed martial. ARTS i had the opportunity of meeting

1374
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 13: him twenty FOURTH gsp used a gym to train for

1375
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 13: about a month or five.

1376
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 12: Weeks we gave him the key to the place and

1377
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 12: just a super cool. Dude.

1378
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 13: Man oh really really nice, guy great for the sport

1379
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 13: AND i wish him the best of. LUCK i came

1380
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 13: in on the tail end of the, conversation SO i

1381
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 13: don't know what you were talking, about BUT i know

1382
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 13: it was With dan and just super cool, dude.

1383
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 4: Man SO i Know kenny's going to give you a

1384
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 4: chance here to sound off On John jones a little.

1385
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 4: Bit but before we get, THERE i just want to

1386
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 4: get a thought from you On Ally quinta And Paul

1387
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 4: felder because we're sitting here less than three weeks out

1388
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 4: first fight on pay per view In brooklyn On april,

1389
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 4: seventh And felder's my, Friend he's my broadcast. Partner BUT

1390
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 4: i DON'T i don't say that he's the most powerful

1391
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 4: guy at one hundred and fifty five pounds because of that.

1392
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 4: RELATIONSHIP i legitimately think with all striking, points this guy

1393
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 4: brings as much heat at one hundred and fifty five

1394
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 4: pounds as. Anyone you're preparing a guy to beat that.

1395
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 4: Guy what's the biggest challenge for you and getting ready

1396
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 4: For Paul felder here in a few.

1397
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 13: Weeks, yeah, Obviously paul feld is awesome. Man he's a

1398
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 13: come forward. Fighter his tide, boxing he's, good he's, tricky

1399
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 13: a lot of good spinning, attacks AND i think he's

1400
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 13: one of those. Guys he's just tough his. NAILS i,

1401
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 13: think very similar To. Al you, know my challenge is

1402
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 13: Keeping al. Healthy he's doing. Great we had a great.

1403
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 13: SESSION i Mean, sunday we did two. Yesterday he sparred

1404
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 13: in the, morning.

1405
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 12: We hit at. Night his knees feel.

1406
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 13: Good he's you, know he's back to his, wrestling WHICH

1407
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 13: i haven't seen for a. While So i'm loving where he's.

1408
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 13: At and, again the key with him is just to

1409
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 13: keep him healthy and trust, me these last three Weeks

1410
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 13: i'll probably be a nervous. Wreck but as of right,

1411
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 13: now he looks. Good and AGAIN i like to you,

1412
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 13: KNOW i like where he's at with.

1413
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 7: Everything, well that's going to be a hell of a, fight,

1414
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 7: MAN i.

1415
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 12: THINK i think that can that can't be.

1416
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 6: Anything but, again, yeah both their styles just make for,

1417
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 6: yeah must WATCH tv. Ray you, KNOW i know you

1418
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 6: wanted to talk About John. Jones he obviously had his

1419
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 6: hearing not too long. Ago what did you think about?

1420
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 6: It what would you think If John jones was allowed

1421
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 6: to compete in the next year or.

1422
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 13: SO i gotta tell, you, man we're gonna have to

1423
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 13: make a statement sooner or, later because let me tell

1424
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 13: you something that happened last, week AND i THINK i

1425
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 13: sent it to You John Marco Polo reyes testing.

1426
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 12: For positive for some sort OF usada.

1427
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 13: Violation and normally when you WHEN i see this, stuff it's,

1428
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 13: like you, know you, know we're like criticized and just

1429
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 13: because that's what we, do you know WHAT i, mean

1430
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 13: you have to make a statement on certain. Things but

1431
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 13: this one really hit home man to, me BECAUSE i

1432
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 13: saw it Was pravola's first loss.

1433
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 12: And he really took it, hard, man he really.

1434
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 13: Did and he's a really nice, kid and to know

1435
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 13: that somebody was cheating and put him in that.

1436
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 12: Position really really for the first, Time i'm telling, you

1437
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 12: it hit. HOME i think because of just knowing the.

1438
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 12: Guy like normally you're on the.

1439
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 13: OUTSIDE i, MEAN i even feel bad for a guy

1440
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 13: LIKE dc man he got kicked in the. Head, uh you,

1441
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 13: know the guy's emotional in the. Ring it's just not.

1442
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 13: Fair these fucking guys a cheats, man and for anybody

1443
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 13: to slap them on the back and give them a

1444
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 13: pat on the back for what they've done is fucking.

1445
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 13: Horseshit at this, point you, know for some, reason this

1446
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 13: thing even makes it worse to me BECAUSE i watched

1447
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 13: what this kid went. Through he took it, hard and you,

1448
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 13: know he, look he's got to grow through that. Anyway

1449
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 13: and it's not to say that that even made a

1450
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 13: difference in the. Fight but what we don't know is

1451
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 13: how Would frovola have been on? Steroids you, know would

1452
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 13: that have made a? Difference you, know could he have trained,

1453
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 13: hard it got, better, sleep eaten, better you know WHAT i?

1454
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 12: Mean who knows?

1455
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 13: That we don't, Know but you, know you want to

1456
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 13: put a guy Like Chris widman on, steroids give him

1457
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 13: an edge the. Guys he's got freak strength as it.

1458
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 13: IS i wouldn't want to be nowhere near him jacked

1459
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 13: up on. Anything so you, know these guys should really

1460
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 13: be ashamed of. THEMSELVES i think they have to make a.

1461
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 13: Statement this isn't you, know this is something where somebody

1462
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 13: could get, hurt AND i think they even you, Know

1463
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 13: i'm GONNA i just even what, happened uh With. Favolain

1464
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 13: it might not be as big of a, deal BUT

1465
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 13: i feel bit FOR Dc. Man he had a you,

1466
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 13: KNOW i just don't think it's fair at this, point

1467
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 13: and they have to do.

1468
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 12: Something AND i don't know if.

1469
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 13: The the culture is, LIKE i don't know if There

1470
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 13: it just seems like nobody's got a, Conscience, like you,

1471
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 13: know you're a fucking. CHEETAH i, mean how do you

1472
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 13: feel good about yourself after a win knowing that you

1473
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 13: were doing something like?

1474
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 12: That you? Know AND i Maybe i'm, NAIVE i don't.

1475
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 13: Know and maybe in the future one of my guys

1476
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 13: something will, happen BUT i GUARANTEE i one hundred percent

1477
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 13: will never know about. It i'll probably And i'd have

1478
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 13: to distance myself from. HIM i just don't think it's,

1479
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 13: right and somebody's gonna get. Hurt AND i don't know

1480
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 13: if that's what it takes, again even with this type of,

1481
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 13: ship BUT i think they have to make a statement

1482
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 13: On John. Jones, look if the guy had a if

1483
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 13: he had a background and his you, know he didn't

1484
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 13: have the car acci and he didn't do, this he

1485
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 13: didn't do, that you, know and he had a clean.

1486
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 12: Slate it maybe.

1487
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 13: Something, Different but how many times do we have to

1488
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 13: see this type of behavior before you really make a

1489
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 13: statement that you know you're. Done this is what it cost.

1490
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 13: You you, know you hear those, stories AND i know

1491
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 13: guys that have gone through the you, know THE aa

1492
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 13: programs and the stories are. Horrible who ruined their, life

1493
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 13: who lost the, relationship who lost everything they. OWNED i,

1494
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 13: mean it's gonna take for some of these guys to

1495
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 13: hit rock, BOTTOM i think before they get.

1496
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 12: Help BUT i don't. KNOW i just think IT'S.

1497
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 13: I just hope none of the coaches or the teams

1498
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 13: that anybody's you, know like, again.

1499
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 12: Making it easy for these guys to do.

1500
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 13: IT i hope these, guys if they're doing, it they're

1501
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 13: doing it in secret and nobody knows about, it BECAUSE

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01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 13: i think it's fucking bullshit at this.

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01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 4: Point, well as, Usual, ray you bring up a lot

1504
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 4: of compelling. Points it's crazy to think how history is

1505
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 4: going to look back on this. GUY i, mean it

1506
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 4: really is a. Movie And, ray you AND i when

1507
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 4: we talk, offline a lot of our conversation is about

1508
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 4: the untold, millions and we kind of have fun with

1509
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 4: the fact that this guy might have left one hundred

1510
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 4: million dollars on the. Table but history is not gonna

1511
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 4: look kindly Upon John. JONES i would, think even if

1512
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 4: he does come back and realize his greatness yet, again all,

1513
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 4: RIGHT i want.

1514
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 8: To get you out of here on. This by the,

1515
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 8: way how's your podcast?

1516
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 12: Going BUT i think it's pretty.

1517
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 13: Good we're having. Fun uh, yeah you, KNOW i do

1518
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 13: It sunday, night so IT'S i work. OUT i trained

1519
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 13: some people Like, LISTEN i had had, AL i Had morob. Everybody,

1520
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 13: Ye Jenny, nadell we HAD i Mean sunday. NIGHT i

1521
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 13: THINK i FIGURED i tried to put it on one

1522
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 13: night where nothing was going.

1523
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 12: On, yeah and that didn't even. Work i'm just running

1524
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 12: out of time with. Everything but uh, yeah we have

1525
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 12: a we have a good. Time it's.

1526
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 8: Good all, Right i'll get you out of here on.

1527
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 4: This the most amount of money you have ever bet

1528
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 4: on a sporting event or a hand to blackjack in your.

1529
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 13: Life, well first, Off I'm i'm a CHEAP stu when

1530
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 13: it comes to. Betting But i'm gonna, SAY i want to.

1531
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 12: Say a thousand. Bucks, yeah all, right that's.

1532
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 8: Respectable that's.

1533
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 7: Respectable, yeah that's pretty.

1534
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 13: Good it, was and it was either probably betting on

1535
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 13: one of my own, guys but uh, No i'm normally

1536
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 13: good for a hundred, bucks that's.

1537
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 12: IT i don't like.

1538
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 13: That but like if, somebody, like if they see me

1539
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 13: betting five hundred, dollars they they're like there's got to

1540
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 13: be a, lock you, know AND i rarely lose, those

1541
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 13: but they're far and few in.

1542
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 12: Between but, Uh.

1543
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 13: I'm gonna say, no, definitely no more than fifteen, hundred

1544
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 13: but probably a thousand of.

1545
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 8: Five you. Know All, right that's.

1546
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 4: Good we got, where we got a new segment churning,

1547
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 4: now like Long go's lock of the.

1548
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 8: Week or, Something so maybe they will debut that next. Week,

1549
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 8: hey sorry for kid yea, waiting BUT I i go.

1550
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 13: WHEN i go to the window In, VEGAS i MEAN

1551
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 13: i go in cognito because, yeah find out.

1552
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 8: That all, Right, hey thank you for the. Time. Man

1553
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 8: we'll talk to you Next. Monday all, right, guys take.

1554
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 7: It thanks, right all, right there he.

1555
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 8: Is ray Long. Go thanks to.

1556
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 4: Him thank you to our other Guest Luke thomas And Dan.

1557
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 4: Hardy right back at it next. Week we'll, continue of,

1558
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 4: course THE ufc two to twenty three, discussion hoping it'll

1559
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 4: be Joined Black, UP, EBN, R MAGO. Metap we'll see

1560
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:05,919
Speaker 4: if that all comes. Together thanks to everybody At Fox

1561
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 4: sports for the. Flow I'm John. Anak until next, week

1562
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 4: have a good.

1563
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,760
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