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Speaker 1: of stuff has to happen for us not to go there.

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Speaker 1: But I assume you've heard and been partaking in the

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Speaker 1: feeding frenzy that has been taking place the last twenty

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Speaker 1: would be the Feds. The Feds have arrested an active

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Speaker 1: NBA head coach and an active NBA player. That seems

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Speaker 1: like a big deal. That seems like a bit. Don't

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Speaker 1: that You are obviously innocent until proven guilty. Chauncey Billups,

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Speaker 1: mister big shot Piston's legend who's been coaching toiling on

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Speaker 1: the Oregon Trail with the Portland Trailblazers going back to

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Speaker 3: And Terry Rozier, who.

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Speaker 1: At one point was a valuable member the Boston Celtics.

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Speaker 1: He's been bouncing around the NBA, currently with the Miami Heat,

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Speaker 1: although I'm I'm guessing he's never going to play for

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Speaker 1: them again. But anyway, so you had Rosier, you had Billups.

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Speaker 1: They were among thirty people who had a really bad day.

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Speaker 1: Thirty people had really you think you had a bad Thursday,

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Speaker 1: They had a worse Thursday. And two separate, they claim related,

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Speaker 1: but separate, federal gambling investigations that involved the NBA and

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Speaker 1: the Mob, the NBA and the Mob. Hello. Now again

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Speaker 1: this is the version of the FBI. They don't bat

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Speaker 3: These schemes. Boy, this is good reading, man, This is

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Speaker 1: So one of them focused on insider sports betting, another

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Speaker 3: Coast stuck coast did and bordered the border.

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Speaker 1: And this went on for years, involving they claimed tens

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Speaker 1: have with gambling illegally is they don't get a cut

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Speaker 1: of the money, right, they don't get the Yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: The situation we have now where there's tens of millions

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Speaker 1: So I've got Einstein Brothers, Apollo Theater, and Farmers Market.

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Speaker 1: So a my first thought here is absolutely bonkers. Where

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Speaker 3: Is this really? Is that really? What happened? Okay, okay, wow,

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Speaker 3: I want to know more about it? Uh so?

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Speaker 1: Uh what a way to tip off the NBA season.

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Speaker 1: How about that Adam Silver.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what happens when you assume we assume

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Speaker 1: the storylines that we would be yapping about here to

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Speaker 1: we're talking about the FBI kicking in doors and taking

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Speaker 1: I mentioned my phone blew up and when I woke up,

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Speaker 1: normally this only happens when somebody gets fired, I get fired,

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Speaker 1: or someone dies. So the story I was looking into

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Speaker 1: Maybe not, Maybe you actually have a life and you

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Speaker 3: I'm in I'm all about.

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Speaker 1: This action and This story is like going to Einstein

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Speaker 3: It's got something for everyone.

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Speaker 1: It's got a hall of famer, a man that hit

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Speaker 1: That no name, no Hall of Fame type team and

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Speaker 3: But you got that.

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Speaker 1: You got Terry Rozier when he played for the Celtics,

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Speaker 1: he had the nickname Scary Terry. If you like mob movies,

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Speaker 1: he got the Italian Mafia. It spans eleven states. You

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Speaker 1: got rigged poker games over here in places like the Hamptons.

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Speaker 1: That's where all the aristocrats hang out, all the a

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is like watching a Scorsese flick, is

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Speaker 1: what this is. It's Goodfellas NBA Edition, Goodfellas NBA Edition

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Speaker 1: and my favorite mob movies, not The Godfather.

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Speaker 3: It is Goodfellas.

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Speaker 1: I love Goodfellow great, just absolutely great, and you could

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Speaker 1: not script it better. You got Rosier, you know, based

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Speaker 1: of the truth, not the whole truth, but Rosier telling

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Speaker 1: the Mob, Hey, I'm gonna fake an injury so you

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Speaker 1: which you know, I don't know what. I just do

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Speaker 1: an overnight show, do I know? But that doesn't seem

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Speaker 1: very subtle. It's like walking into the casino wearing a

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Yeah, this isn't some tiki tac violation. This is

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Speaker 1: the doomsday scenario for the for the NBA. And it's

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Speaker 1: it's funny because obviously I like gambling. I think adults

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Speaker 1: just this is what the commissioners for years and oh

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Speaker 1: you cut out have gambling. This is the worst thing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're fine. But this is the worst not the

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Speaker 1: I guess the worst case scenario would be we like

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Speaker 3: And all that stuff, and well it's it's happened.

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Speaker 1: So now it's real and this is gonna make one

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Speaker 1: hell of a great Netflix true crime doc and I'm

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Speaker 1: binge watch it, binge watch it. I don't normally binge watch.

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Speaker 1: go do stuff, but I will binge watch. And this

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Speaker 1: is still in progress right now. And you know, who

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Speaker 1: knows what to believe if people are sending me messages this,

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Speaker 3: And the theory is these guys were not alone.

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Speaker 1: This was not a one off situation where normally these

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Speaker 1: people right now who know these gentlemen and know they

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Speaker 1: might be on some kind of list or something like that,

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Speaker 1: that are not sleeping. We'd like to welcome them to

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Speaker 1: the mal or militia. And I don't know what they're

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Speaker 1: gonna call the Netflix true crime doc. Maybe whack Jobs

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Speaker 1: and point guards or something like that. But you can

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Speaker 1: get the ominous piano music playing and all that, and

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Speaker 1: imagine a world where the unders hit early and the

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Speaker 1: FBI hits earlier. Yeah, something like that. I think that

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Speaker 1: she could work. Yeah, I think that it would work.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens about you. You guys, strap

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Speaker 1: in there, because this is this is not going away.

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Speaker 1: This is a nuke in Adam Silver's lap. And the

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Speaker 1: chatter again, the chatter who knows what's right not? You know,

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Speaker 1: nobody knows anything, and people are people love to gossip

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Speaker 1: and they love for some reason they have to tell

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Speaker 3: I don't know why, what do I know?

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Speaker 1: However, it is believed that he snitched, which likely led

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Speaker 3: But the only people.

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Speaker 1: Guaranteed to win here again to the lawyers, they always win,

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Speaker 3: And the chatter is.

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Speaker 3: Now you know who wins on that.

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Speaker 1: Here's the ironic part if you play this out and

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Speaker 1: So far, you're good? Okay, you shut your hand, yes,

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Speaker 1: all right, so you know who ends up winning? The

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Speaker 1: They're just pushing it back to the to the alley

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Speaker 1: Doctor Vinnie Boombots has got balloons and Canoli's waiting.

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Speaker 3: Come on down and don't fool yourself.

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Speaker 1: The props are have become the lifeblood of modern gambling.

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Speaker 1: And you take that away, the action is not gonna stop.

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Speaker 1: It's not It's just gonna go underground. That's just the

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Speaker 1: Have you read about prohibition and what that? Did you

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Speaker 3: Nice, big red bow, big red bow on top.

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Speaker 1: So if this happens, Congress gets its, it gets you know,

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Speaker 3: The league gets to say, hey, you know, we've.

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Speaker 1: Got integrity now, we want our fans to know everything's good,

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Speaker 1: and the Mob gets rich again. Brilliant what could go wrong?

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Speaker 1: couple of years in radio, I started in San Diego,

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Speaker 1: and those were the uniforms.

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Speaker 3: The Chargers war. Now their throwback.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, anyway, justin Herbert two hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: seven yards passing in three touchdowns and the Chargers send

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Speaker 1: the Vikings to the electric Chair, where they blow out

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Speaker 1: with twenty seven point win.

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Speaker 3: They won by twenty.

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Speaker 1: Seven points on Thursday night, ending a skid of three

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Speaker 1: losses in four games, and had knocked them out of

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Speaker 1: the AFC West catbird seat.

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Speaker 3: They had all those early.

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Speaker 1: Wins over AFC West opponents, and now they fall on

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Speaker 1: hard times, but the Chargers get back into the win

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Speaker 1: call him here an unexpectedly easy win. The Chargers win

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Speaker 1: four days after being trampled by the Colts in that

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Speaker 1: same ballpark.

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Speaker 3: They get destroyed.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: The better story is in the losing locker room, where

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Speaker 1: the Vikings have now lost consecutive games for the first

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Speaker 1: time this season, both coming in a five day span.

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Speaker 1: They lost to Philly at home, a game where they

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Speaker 1: had plenty of opportunities, were able to matriculate the ball

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Speaker 1: down in the red zone and the offense fizzled in

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Speaker 1: the red zone. But certainly not the case here, as

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Speaker 1: it was just a debacle from beginning to end, from

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Speaker 1: Alpha to Omega, the Minnesota offense managed just twelve first downs.

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Speaker 3: That's it. Twelve, I'm told that's not good.

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Speaker 1: Three of eleven on third down and had the ball

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Speaker 1: for just twenty one minutes. Oh my god. So that's

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Speaker 1: a good jumping off point. Let us discuss the question

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Speaker 1: what the heck happened to Kevin o'conddle's Minnesota vikings. So

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Speaker 1: my observations of this, I've got bootleg vhs, copy, ice cube,

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Speaker 1: and shadows, and we were combine all of these things

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Speaker 1: together and we are going to make a very expensive

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Speaker 1: cup from a tiki bar. Very expensive, very very expensive. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you should not purchase anyone number why? I said number Why?

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Speaker 1: So in the holiday spirit, we are a week away

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Speaker 1: from Halloween, Minnesota, I know what happened. They came out

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Speaker 1: to La they went to Spirit Halloween, and they showed

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Speaker 1: up in the wrong damn costume.

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Speaker 3: That's what happened.

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Speaker 1: Instead of the purple people eater uniforms, they came out

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Speaker 1: dressed like Gang Green. They played like the Jets. You're

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Speaker 1: not the Jets. Stop playing like the Jet. That was lifeless.

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Speaker 1: That was aloof that was zero juice. Now, as you know,

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Speaker 1: we do Benny versus the Penny, and we do it,

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Speaker 1: you know, every game, every Thursday night game, and then

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Speaker 1: we have all the other big games on the weekend.

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Speaker 3: We handicap.

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Speaker 1: And it's very frustrating when you expect an honest performance,

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Speaker 1: when you assume that you're going to get effort, because

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Speaker 1: why why else would you bother watching this? And my

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Speaker 1: main criticism and people say, well, Carson Wentzon, We'll get

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Speaker 1: to Carson Wentz because he was terrible, and he said, well,

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Speaker 1: I'll give him a pass. Brian flores his defense though,

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Speaker 1: and to me, that's a bigger that is a bigger

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Speaker 1: thing for the Vikings. Yet the bread and butter of

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Speaker 1: that squad is the defense. Good defense, bread and butter.

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Speaker 1: They were burnt toast is what they were. The Chargers

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Speaker 1: converted sixty nine on third down, almost seventy percent on

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Speaker 1: third down. They had four hundred nineteen yards of offense,

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Speaker 1: held the ball for thirty nine freaking minutes.

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Speaker 3: That's not defense. That's daycare, is what that.

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Speaker 1: And you want arm tackles, check, you want miss tackles,

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Speaker 1: check check. You want bad per suit angles check check check.

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Speaker 1: They looked like they had all gotten together. In the

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Speaker 1: game film they watched a bootleg VHS copy of NFL

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Speaker 1: films Super Duper Football Follies is what they watched. Don't

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Speaker 1: forget also poor coverage, bad pass rush check check check

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Speaker 1: check check check check. Justin Herbert, who was running for

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Speaker 1: his life. I know the Chargers got some guys back,

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Speaker 1: they didn't get everyone back. Herbert completed seventy two percent

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Speaker 1: of his passes. He averaged nine point one yards attempt

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Speaker 1: per attempt nine point one yards perttempt.

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Speaker 3: Do you uns down incompetent?

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Speaker 1: How you just aren't even trying if you're on defense,

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Speaker 1: if you allow that kind of efficiency. Kevin O'Connell, the coach,

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Speaker 1: looked lost. Looked like a guy holding a map trying

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Speaker 1: to read it and it was upside down. He never

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Speaker 1: turned it the right side, I mean, my gott and

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Speaker 1: there were no adjustments. There was no fire, no fire

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Speaker 1: from the king. I did see a couple players get

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Speaker 1: upset because their teammates were not in the proper position,

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Speaker 1: but the rest of the guys looked like they had

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Speaker 1: no clue. There was zero fight. They were like a soft,

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Speaker 1: warm pretzel, which I love. A sophomore Pretzel. I don't

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Speaker 1: want my football team. I don't want my football team

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Speaker 1: to play like that, and you can't fake the energy. Well,

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Speaker 1: now we are going to address the snuffle uffagus in

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Speaker 1: the room, and that would be Carson Wentz, who also sucked.

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Speaker 1: Wentz horrible numbers. Just the numbers aren't as bad as

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Speaker 1: he played, finished with one hundred and forty four yards,

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Speaker 1: had a touchdown, an interception, got sacked five times. Now

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Speaker 1: the big headline. This was featured on the Amazon broadcast.

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Speaker 1: They was talking point he played through a left shoulder

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Speaker 1: injury that, based on his body language and his moaning

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Speaker 1: on the field, he had aggravated it multiple times. Here's

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Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell. People criticizing O'Connell. You left Wentz in there.

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Speaker 1: You could have taken them out earlier in the game.

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Speaker 1: You left him in there. Explain yourself, coach.

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Speaker 6: We kept on, you know, checking in, maybe getting Max

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Speaker 6: ready to go. But he you know, you know, Tyler

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Speaker 6: was coming to me a lot tonight, but every time

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Speaker 6: he seemed to update me on that. You know, Carson

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Speaker 6: was uh, you know, he was sore going into it,

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Speaker 6: and he was able. He took obviously quite a few

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Speaker 6: hits and and but he was able to. You know,

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Speaker 6: I asked him multiple times, you know, where he was at,

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Speaker 6: and he he he said he was good and wanted

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Speaker 6: to keep going. I know, it did seem like he was,

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Speaker 6: you know, in pain there a couple of times, a

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Speaker 6: few times.

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Speaker 1: So the body language was it looked like he was

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Speaker 1: literally on his deathbed. He appeared like they could bring

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Speaker 1: in a priest and a rabbi and give him his

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Speaker 1: last right.

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Speaker 3: So the way Wentz was acting.

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Speaker 1: On the field, here's Carson Wentz. You were hurt, you

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Speaker 1: were playing. You look like you were about to drop

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Speaker 1: dead on the field. Explain yourself. Carson Wentz was trying.

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Speaker 7: To do everything I can to help this team, you know. Okay,

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Speaker 7: I think confident, even with the pain, that I can help,

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Speaker 7: you know, I can contribute and make plays and spread

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Speaker 7: this ball around.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I thought we did it okay.

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Speaker 7: At times, left plenty of things out there. The interception,

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Speaker 7: you know, I thought I thought maybe we had a

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Speaker 7: little chance to kind of put something together and go

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Speaker 7: down there, and I just kissed it, you know, And

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Speaker 7: I gotta be better there. But yeah, at the end

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Speaker 7: of the day, I feel like I'm physically able to

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Speaker 7: go whether.

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Speaker 3: It hurts or not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a guy that was what you just said

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Speaker 1: there completely wrong. All right, So the question does Carson

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Speaker 1: Wentz get immunity?

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Speaker 3: Does he get immunity.

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Speaker 1: From criticism because he played through a shoulder that was

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Speaker 1: barking like.

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Speaker 3: A dog the injury.

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Speaker 1: So on my scorecard, I wrote down two letters N

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Speaker 1: and oh no, no, he was cleared to play. Carson Wentz,

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Speaker 1: you don't get a gold star near your name because

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Speaker 1: your shoulder was causing you issues and you played, and

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Speaker 1: you played. The reason these historic games and sports, the

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Speaker 1: Flu game, which I guess was not even the Flu

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Speaker 1: game with Michael Jordan, the Kobe Bryant version of that,

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Speaker 1: those are special games because they played well and they

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Speaker 1: were battling some kind of what now is called neurovirus.

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Speaker 1: Back then it was called the flu. Simpler times, simpler times.

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Speaker 1: I just want to point that out. The neurovirus thing

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Speaker 1: very annoying. I grew up with the flu. I'm not

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Speaker 1: ready to call it the neurovirus. I just want to

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Speaker 1: point that out. Anyway, Carson Wentz's fair game, he is.

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Speaker 1: He made the charger defense, which looked like wet tissue

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Speaker 1: paper a couple days ago against Danny Dimes, and the

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Speaker 1: Colts look like the two thousand Ravens. Okay, and remember

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Speaker 1: it's hurt versus injured. If you're injured, you sit. If

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Speaker 1: you're hurt, you play and you produce. Went did neither.

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Speaker 1: He stunked from head to toe, as John Tortorella so

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Speaker 1: famously said back and so to me, there's no excuse.

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Speaker 1: And you know O'Connell also like, what are you doing,

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Speaker 1: Like open your eyes? You know Stevie Meatballs is blind

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Speaker 1: and he could see that this was a disaster, inca terror.

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Speaker 1: Was like, I'm screaming. I can see this and I

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Speaker 1: can't see anything, but I know this is bad. Playing

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Speaker 1: through pain does not make up for playing like a bum.

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Speaker 3: It just doesn't. I'll be the I'll be the bad guy,

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Speaker 3: all right now, Page two.

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Speaker 1: So on the Chargers side, the question must be asked,

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Speaker 1: if you watched any of this game? The star of

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Speaker 1: the show, well, Justin Herbert had really sexy stats. The

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Speaker 1: question being asked by many. Have Jim Harbaugh's Chargers solve

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Speaker 1: their running back dilemma with the emergence of Kamani Vidal,

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Speaker 1: the running back who I had never heard of. I

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Speaker 1: know he had a good game a couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: ago into the Dolphins, but my god.

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Speaker 3: So I'll answer this.

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Speaker 1: The Chargers clearly think they've unearthed a hidden gem in

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Speaker 1: the human bowling ball of a back Commandy Vidal.

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Speaker 3: This guy, it is a redemption story.

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Speaker 1: The guy was a Troy Trojan, not a USC Trojan,

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Speaker 1: a Troy Trojan six round pick. He was actually fired

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Speaker 1: by the Chargers. He was dumped. He was released at

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Speaker 1: the end of training camp. Back off the scrap heap.

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Speaker 1: Now suddenly he was running around. He looks like if

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Speaker 1: you're old enough to remember when Reice Jones Drew, who

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Speaker 1: had a good career played with Jacksonville mostly Maurice Jones.

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Speaker 3: Drew look like that. He looked like you.

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Speaker 1: Maybe a little bigger or a smaller, but ways more

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Speaker 1: look good on a tablet. The stats one hundred and

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Speaker 1: seventeen yards average five point one yards per rush.

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Speaker 3: Hello. And for those of you that are blind that

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Speaker 3: don't know what's he look like.

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Speaker 1: He's built like a keg of beer, Like if you

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Speaker 1: got a keg of medello. That's what it was. He's

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Speaker 1: five to eight fifteen five eight two fifteen. He was

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Speaker 1: running through the Vikings like they were traffic cones, like

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Speaker 1: he was at the combine and he was.

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Speaker 3: Just running through.

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Speaker 1: However, I would not advise a ticker tape parade. Yet

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Speaker 1: you can stop that right now. The Vikings defense looked

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Speaker 1: like it was doing the limbo out there, as we said,

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Speaker 1: arm tackles to the right, bad angles to the left,

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Speaker 1: total lolligagging everywhere. And I'm convinced your Babushka could have

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Speaker 1: averaged four yards to carry against the defensive effort from

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings in that game. And so I will

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Speaker 1: quote the great ambassador of the world ice Cube, who

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Speaker 1: said it best you better check yourself before you wreck yourself,

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Speaker 1: that this might be more about Minnesota's Mattato defense ho

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Speaker 1: eh o, than Vidal becoming the next great running back

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Speaker 1: of our time.

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Speaker 3: I'm pulling for.

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Speaker 1: I always love the bug on the rug, the little

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Speaker 1: fat running back, those all these fun players to watch.

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Speaker 1: They are remember Darren Sproll's long career in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Love watching him play right because he's so These guys

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Speaker 1: are so small, even though he's built physically like a

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Speaker 1: beer keg, they're so little. He's like five eight and

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Speaker 1: Darren Sproles was five to six, you know, and he

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Speaker 1: appeared to know what he was doing as far as blocking. Again,

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Speaker 1: he wasn't getting challenged her Vidal. But that's how you

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Speaker 1: get on the field in the NFL if you're a nope,

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Speaker 1: if you block, especially for a guy like Jim Harbaugh,

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Speaker 1: and so he fits that esthetic. He's short, thick, he's

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Speaker 1: got a mean streak to him, which you kind of

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Speaker 1: have to be. If you're a six round pick out

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Speaker 1: of Troy. You know, you weren't getting toddled at Ohio

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Speaker 1: State with nil money. If you're going to Troy, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe you get some money for the vending machine.

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Speaker 3: Possibly. But I have seen this.

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Speaker 1: Movie before one big game, Remember I forget the guys,

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Speaker 1: and I was trying to think when I was I

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00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: was coming in here to the studio. There was a

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Speaker 1: guy for the Patriots, somebody I know. You might know

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Speaker 1: if you're listening. There was a one hit wonder for

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Speaker 1: the Patriots in the glory days of the Belichick run.

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Speaker 1: The guy it was, if I remember correctly, cause I

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Speaker 1: did a monologue about it. I forgot, you know, so

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Speaker 1: long ago. But he had a monster game against I

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Speaker 1: want to say, the Colts in one of those big

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Speaker 1: matchups between Tom Brady and I think Peyton Manning was on.

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Speaker 1: The Colts had a huge game, and then we never

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Speaker 1: heard from him again, and.

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Speaker 3: It was like, he's very odd. It was like, what happened?

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Speaker 3: Where'd that guy go? I don't know, I forget his name,

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Speaker 3: though I got the Google machine. I guess I could

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Speaker 3: look that up. But man alive it was. It was

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Speaker 3: absolutely crazy.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, So one big game when we've seen this happen,

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Speaker 1: then three weeks later we're like, what happened to that guy? So, no,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean the Chargers have solved the Rubik's qbe

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Speaker 1: at the running back position. However, you certainly want to

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Speaker 1: see what this guy's got. You want to give him

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Speaker 1: some more opportunities, and you know, they might have found

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Speaker 1: a serviceable running back who certainly showed he can feast

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Speaker 1: on a soft defense. He played well against the Dolphins,

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Speaker 1: as we said, and so now he does it against

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Speaker 1: the Vikings, and so we'll see what happens when he

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Speaker 1: plays a team that's actually engage and is trying to

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Speaker 1: tackle you and not use arm tackling. So I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: buy stock yet I would keep the confetti in the box.

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Speaker 1: I would not open the box with the confetti. All right,

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Speaker 1: final point back to the Vikings we go where doctor

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Speaker 1: David Chowell, a former Chargers team doctor better known if

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Speaker 1: you're on social media as the pro Football Doc, and

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Speaker 1: he has tossed out a mouthwatering conspiracy theory about the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota football team manipulating the injured list.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how crazy is that? You see it? No, he

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Speaker 3: didn't say, Okay, I'll give you the details on this.

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Speaker 1: So doctor Chow says that quarterback JJ McCarthy is hiding

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Speaker 1: behind a health situation and he didn't play in this game.

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Speaker 1: Are talking about Carson Wentz went out there and was horrific.

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Speaker 1: So this was the second week in a row that

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Speaker 1: the Vikings head coach Kevin O'Connell had McCarthy as the

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Speaker 1: emergency third quarterback, meaning that the doctors had cleared him

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Speaker 1: to play. So question thumbs up or thumbs down to

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Speaker 1: the Vikings embellishing quarterback JJ McCarthy's injury status to keep

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Speaker 1: him on the bench and claiming, well, we want him

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Speaker 1: only when he's one hundred percent. So I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: thumbs up on that. You can say, well, that's not

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Speaker 1: really a conspiracy. It's just gamesmanship. Okay, Okay. What the

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Speaker 1: Vikings are doing with this is they're sending him to

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Speaker 1: the shadow realm. This is classic shadow band stuff. He's

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Speaker 1: almost ready, but not quite. And it's a beautiful scam.

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Speaker 1: You got coach Kevin O'Connell looking around thinking, man, I

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Speaker 1: can squeeze some games out of wins, and I may

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Speaker 1: be able to win a couple of these things.

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Speaker 3: There's no need to rush the red shirt rookie back

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Speaker 3: into the game to be eaten by the Bears and

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Speaker 3: these He beat the Bears, but the Lions the teams

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Speaker 3: in the division.

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Speaker 1: So instead Minnesota, they said, we're going to keep listing

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Speaker 1: McCarthy as an emergency quarterback, even though the doctors have

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Speaker 1: already medically cleared him. So if you're healthy enough to

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Speaker 1: be an emergency quarterback, as I understand it, you're healthy

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Speaker 1: enough to, you know, actually play in the game. So

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Speaker 1: this is not a medical thing. This is an incompetence thing.

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Speaker 1: And the coaches don't trust JJ McCarthy's anyone.

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Speaker 3: Disagree with that. I don't see anyone shaking their head.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 1: And O'Connell, he's got plausible deniability.

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Speaker 3: He can say, Wow, we just want the ballplayer to

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Speaker 3: be one hundred percent. That's all we want.

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Speaker 1: Well, no one's ever one hundred percent right, and not

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Speaker 1: certainly not week eight of an NFL season. And the

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Speaker 1: reality is, and it's the quiet part we're going to

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Speaker 1: say out loud. JJ McCarthy was overwhelmed. He wasn't ready

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Speaker 1: early in the season. Any anyone that knows anything about

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Speaker 1: football knows he was not prepared to play quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. They were upset and people watching him. I

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Speaker 1: guarantee if people behind the scenes are like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: what do we do? So they're stashing him. It is

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Speaker 1: a timeless strategy in the NFL. Sleight of hand. Sleight

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Speaker 1: of hand.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of the Ben Maller

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Speaker 2: Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific.

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Speaker 3: It's Mallar. How about d to the third degree?

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Speaker 2: This is one big event?

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Speaker 3: Gets grilled Kouperlo.

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Speaker 8: Dylan Gabriel has been serviceable at best since becoming QB

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Speaker 8: one in Cleveland. Many fans want the team to consider

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Speaker 8: Shador after the team's Week nine bye. If things go

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Speaker 8: poorly this Sunday against the Patriots. But is there any

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Speaker 8: chance of that happening.

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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, there's a chance because Dylan Gabriel is no good.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of these stories that are out there

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Speaker 1: about Shadar Sanders, it's just clickbait because people have determined

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Speaker 1: in the media that he's popular because his dad was

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Speaker 1: a good player, and even though he's not that good

767
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Speaker 1: apparently because he's not playing for the Cleveland Browns. So

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Speaker 1: that's number one, and you're just trying to engage, you're

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Speaker 1: getting engagement farming. Yeah, at some point, Dylan Gabriel, if

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Speaker 1: he doesn't play better, is going to be replaced.

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Speaker 3: That is how this works. He's not very good right now.

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Speaker 8: Next, an NFL insider reported on Wednesday that the Cowboys

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Speaker 8: could make multiple moves at the trade deadline. Ben, do

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Speaker 8: you think Dallas is only a couple pieces on defense

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Speaker 8: away from being legit contenders?

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Speaker 1: Yes, if they can get Aiden Hutchinson, I can get

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Speaker 1: him into trade. And also, I don't know who all

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Speaker 1: you give me a great lineback? I mean, yeah, they

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Speaker 1: get two impact players? Sure, why not?

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Speaker 3: It's not good.

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Speaker 1: That's much like we just talked about the quarterback Sreur Sanders.

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Speaker 1: It's not going to It's just trying to get clicks,

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Speaker 1: is what you're doing. Jerry Jones. I don't believe he's

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Speaker 1: gonna pull the trigger on any major trades. I just

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Speaker 1: think this is all chatter and nonsense. But yeah, if

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys got two impact defensive players, their offense will.

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Speaker 3: Be able to score. I have two stud receivers.

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Speaker 8: Next, after Dave Dombrowski's comments about Bryce Harper earlier, if

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Speaker 8: the Yankees fans and analysts think the former MVP could

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Speaker 8: be dealt to the Bronx, Ben is that a pipe dream?

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Speaker 1: Well, the issue is he's got a no trade class

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Speaker 1: like a full note trade clause, Bryce Harper so and

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Speaker 1: he's got a Phillies tattoo, so good luck on that.

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Speaker 1: He does want more money, so if the Phillies don't

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Speaker 1: want to redo his contract, then yeah, he's actually underpaid

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Speaker 1: by modern baseball standards.

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Speaker 3: How did we do, Cooper loop?

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Speaker 8: Then you pass this edition?

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Speaker 3: That is a win.

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Speaker 1: I put it on the part what the guy yet

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Speaker 1: it game? I cannot be stopped at Malo third degree.

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Speaker 2: listen live Knock knock Who's there? Blame week? Blame week who?

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Speaker 3: It's Big Ben's lame joke of the week.

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Speaker 1: All right, here you go, Big Ben's lamb jokes is

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Speaker 1: our buddy, the rockstar weed.

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Speaker 3: Man Hippie from Miami. There, Hello, Billy, hey Man, I

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Speaker 3: love you. Thanks Monday. All right, people love you? We men?

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Speaker 3: Did you set up Gmail and email and all that stuff?

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Speaker 1: I really have to do that. You better do that

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Speaker 1: before Monday. People have been emailing me. They want to

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Speaker 1: help you out, so you better. You better do that.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget, don't drop the ball yet. You got no job?

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Speaker 1: What else are you doing? All right, here we go.

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Speaker 1: These are actual jokes by actual listeners. Send in care

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Speaker 1: of Ben Maler Show at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 3: Can I just say something really fast? Yes? I just

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Speaker 3: realized reed Man has a first name. Hi, Billy, I

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Speaker 3: had no idea.

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Speaker 1: Well, on Monday we will tell you why he goes

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Speaker 1: by the moniker weed Man on Monday.

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Speaker 3: We'll save that story from Monday. But here we go

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Speaker 3: or Monday and Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: So which Lady Gaga song does Chauncey Billups hate?

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Speaker 3: Which one poker face. That's Eric in Kansas. There you go,

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Speaker 3: what would be gaga?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what would be poetic justice if Chauncey Billips was

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Speaker 1: convicted on all charges? Wow? What if he was sentenced

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Speaker 1: to lethal injection? That's from a chip in Maine. Well,

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Speaker 1: these are actual jokes by actual Listen is why does

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Speaker 1: weed man ride around with his butt out the car window?

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Speaker 1: Why so people can see his good side? That's a

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Speaker 1: lucky tony right, very nice. Did you hear that weed

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Speaker 1: Man hippie attended a version of the no King protest

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Speaker 1: over last weekend?

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Speaker 3: Wow? Really? Yeah? I guess you thought it was actually

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Speaker 3: no wor King protests?

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Speaker 1: You thought there was that even you know George in Uvalde, Texas.

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Speaker 3: Thank you George. Why is weed man thinking about getting married?

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Speaker 1: Why? Because he recently got engaged in criminal activity?

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Speaker 3: There you go, it's real in Minnesota. How many times

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Speaker 3: have you been arrested? Weed Man? How many times? I'm good,

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Speaker 3: I'm good, I know, but but yeah, you've been arresting.

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Speaker 3: What job is weed man applying for? What job?

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Speaker 1: Weed store and bassador? That's Eric in Kansas. Why is

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Speaker 1: weed man not familiar with.

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Speaker 3: Why?

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Speaker 1: Well, he always thought of lot lizards as roadkill and

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Speaker 1: free food.

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Speaker 3: That's Drew in Minnesota. Did you hear that weed Man?

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Speaker 3: Did you hear that weed Man?

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Speaker 1: Hippies Chevy Malibu was in a glossy magazine?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 8: Really?

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00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 3: Yes, it was.

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Speaker 1: Better homeless and gardens. That's Jeopardy. Ow, that's a legend. Jeopardy.

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Speaker 1: Al was at the first mallor meet and greet we

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Speaker 1: did in Kansas City. He works at the dreaded day Shift.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 3: How is weed Man honored by the State of Florida. Wow?

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Speaker 1: They presented him with a Ward of the State. A

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Speaker 1: ward Drew in Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 1: Why is Hollowing James going to be or what is

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Speaker 1: he going to be on Halloween?

868
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Speaker 3: Hollering James?

869
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Speaker 1: What the incredible bulk? That's from Eke in Roseville, Minnesota.

870
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: What is Marcel doing for Halloween? What standing outside Blair's

871
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: house making scary noises? That's Eric in Kansas Yes, very nice.

872
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Speaker 3: Here's another similar joke. God, what is holloween James Halloween costume?

873
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 3: What sleeping Darth Vader? That's Eric as well. Very nice.

874
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 3: There it's big Man's name. Jokes of the week.

875
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Speaker 1: It was reported Mike the Leper contested positive for drugs

876
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Speaker 1: during his recent physical year. About that, Wow, wow, yeah,

877
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Speaker 1: there was a large amount of poppy found in him.

878
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Speaker 3: I don't know why. That's a Joe in Virginia. There,

879
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Speaker 3: you're last one.

880
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: Who is Jed who Fled's favorite nineties R and B

881
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 1: GROUPO Boys to Math. That's Kurt from our Big Man's

882
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Speaker 1: Lame Jokes of the Week.

883
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Speaker 3: Thank you, weed Man. That was funny, Genie Ghost of

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Speaker 3: Genie was funny.