1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: online at Advocateslaw dot com. 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: Remy is on the phone today for a first date 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,159 Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by Tererka. So in 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: a minute, we're gonna call her and see tell us 6 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 2: why she's ghosting, and maybe get another date. But first, Remy, 7 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 2: how long has it been since you heard from Tarika. 8 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 3: It's been in about two weeks now, Okay. 9 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 4: Have you reached out to her? 10 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 3: I mean at first I was reaching out, but you 11 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 3: know I've kind of gotten the point and you know, 12 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 3: held back recently. 13 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 4: But why don't you tell us about your date? 14 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? Sure, So we went out to stake place in 15 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 3: town I really like, and then after that we went 16 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 3: out for a froio and then we even went out 17 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 3: to a little dive bar I really like after that. 18 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 3: So I don't know, it was a great night, you know, 19 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 3: you know, we met up around seven, and you know, 20 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 3: by the time I dropped her off, it was you know, 21 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 3: almost starting night. So great night, a lot of fun. 22 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 5: This is always weird to me when you go to 23 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 5: three different locations and then you get ghosted, because at 24 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 5: that point you have a pretty good feeling that like, 25 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 5: this person wants to spend time with you, like you 26 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 5: had it out two different times. 27 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 4: Did you feel like she was super nice? 28 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, she was super nice. I like, you know how 29 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 3: we talked a while before even our first date, and like, 30 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 3: I don't know, we're both vive been really good together. 31 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 3: And yeah, it was really weird that she didn't tell 32 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 3: me anything was wrong. 33 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 6: So could it be like work or family related that 34 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 6: she's not like something's going on in her personal life? 35 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean she she's some like she really had 36 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 3: her stuff together. But you know, it's definitely possible shed 37 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 3: get this guy busy. But you know, like I said, 38 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 3: it's been in a couple of weeks, so I forgot. 39 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: If she wanted to go out another date, maybe she 40 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: would have answered me, But I really at least, you know, 41 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 3: want to know why. 42 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 5: During the date, Remy, did she give you feelings that 43 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 5: she liked you? Did she say that or is there 44 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 5: something that could have possibly happened that would have made 45 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 5: the date kind of take a turn? Yeah? 46 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 6: I don't know. 47 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 3: Like so I guess the one thing is I was 48 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 3: making like kind of some suggestive comments, like you know, 49 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 3: because things were going so well, like, you know, how 50 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: much I liked her and stuff, and it seemed like 51 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: those feelings were kind of reciprocated. But I don't know, 52 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: maybe I pushed too hard, like that's the one thing 53 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: I could really. 54 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 5: Think of, But like what did you say? What direction 55 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 5: were you pushing? Like, oh I really liked you, I 56 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 5: can't realy get married or yeah. 57 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, no, nothing like that, but just like, oh, 58 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: you know, next time, I'll have to do this, and 59 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 3: you know, things like that, like you know kind of 60 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: you know, you know, insinuating that you know, this wouldn't 61 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 3: be the only you know, date. 62 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 4: I think that's some good things. 63 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 6: Yeah. 64 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't think of anything awkward that happened or 65 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: any reason that you'd be getting ghosted. 66 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, Like, uh, I don't know. Maybe 67 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 3: I wasn't dressed right, like I was wearing like corduroy 68 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 3: pants or something. Maybe she was kidding me on that. 69 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: I don't know. 70 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: Corduroys are in now, so ish okay, so maybe you 71 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: were getting judged on that, Like I mean, I like them. 72 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: How tight were they? 73 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 3: They said? That's right? Man? 74 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well we'll see if that is the issue. 75 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: We'll play a song come Back, and then call her 76 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 2: and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting you, 77 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: and then maybe get you another date if you still want. 78 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, also appreciate it. 79 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: So we'll play a song come back, and get your 80 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: first day follow up next. 81 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: Right in the middle of your first day follow up 82 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 2: if you're just joining us, Remy is on the phone 83 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: and he's getting ghosted by Tarika. So in a second, 84 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: we're going to call her and see if she tell 85 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,399 Speaker 2: us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him another date. 86 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: But first, Remy, why don't you catch everybody up on 87 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: your date with Tarica. 88 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 3: So, yeah, we went out to stage place, we had 89 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 3: frozen yogurt, you know, we went to a dive bar, 90 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: you know, all together. We were together probably for about 91 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 3: five hours. It's a great day, you know it. Text 92 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 3: her a few times after the date, but now it's 93 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 3: been about two weeks, haven't heard from her. Don't know 94 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: if she was judging me on my quarter right chain 95 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: some of the talent that is making you know, you know, 96 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 3: hoping that we would you know, it wouldn't be our 97 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: only date or anything like that. And yeah, I'm just 98 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 3: really like to hear from her again, or at least 99 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: find out like why I haven't heard from her? 100 00:03:58,440 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: Okay, cool, you're ready for us to call her? 101 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 3: Bill? 102 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: Okay, here we go, Hi, I speak to Erica. Please. 103 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: This is hey Tarica. How are you? 104 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: My name is Jewbell and I'm calling from a radio show. 105 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: It's called the Jebel Show. 106 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,679 Speaker 4: Hi, Sarah, I'm Nina. I'm also on the show. 107 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: Hi, and I'm Victoria. 108 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: Please serious, that's cool? 109 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: You listen to the show. 110 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 2: Ever, Yeah, we do a segment on the show called 111 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: the First Date follow Up, where if you go on 112 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 2: a day with somebody and ghost them, that person emails 113 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 2: us to call you up and ask why you're ghosting them. 114 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 4: Okay, so. 115 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: We got an email about. 116 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 6: You, Okay, all right. 117 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 2: It's from a dude named Remy. Oh no, oh yeah, yep? 118 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 4: Are you ghosting Remy? 119 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 6: Can I say yes or no? 120 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 4: Okay? 121 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? Would you mind explaining to us what that means? Though? 122 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 6: I get like, I definitely put off messaging him back. 123 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 6: I'll put it that way. I've put off messaging him. 124 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: Back, So he's ghost yet it's just delayed. It just 125 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: mailed him a letter. 126 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 4: At this point sounds funny. 127 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 6: It wasn't anything like I literally just got thrown off. 128 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 6: That was that was it. Like, it wasn't like anything. 129 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 6: I was just thrown off. Okay, So I couldn't stop 130 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 6: thinking about what happened where we went to get frozen ugurt, 131 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 6: like like I don't know what happened, but like he 132 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 6: like became like a monster in that Prolio shop, Like 133 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 6: he added everything that they had available for toppings and stuff, 134 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 6: and then he went bonkers, like he added everything like 135 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 6: cookies and gummy bears and sprinkles and the JoBlo syrup 136 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 6: and the strawberry. 137 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, it sounds like he was having a good Yeah, 138 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 5: it sounds like something I do too. I know he's 139 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 5: ended up sending forty bucks those like. 140 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 4: Some things are so good. I don't understand what you 141 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 4: was just one right, Well, I was. 142 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 6: My thought process. But I was like I was like weird. 143 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 6: I was like, okay, this thing is going to weigh 144 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 6: forty pounds, and I just like, has you never been 145 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 6: to one of these places? Like is this first time 146 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 6: out of the house, Like no, I just I guess 147 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 6: I thought about it like way too much. And then 148 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 6: I was like, well, I'll get back to him. You know, 149 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 6: I was still in my head and then I completely 150 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 6: forgot to get back to him. 151 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 4: Okay, just for that sounds like something, Victoria. 152 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously you're judging him on having so many toppings? 153 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: Does that? 154 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 5: Does that tell you something about his character? You're just 155 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,559 Speaker 5: really not show how somebody can mix cookies and gummy 156 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 5: bears together. I'm not really understanding how this was like 157 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 5: an ick for you. 158 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 6: It was just like a lot like I think I 159 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 6: was just stunned. It was kind of like a train 160 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 6: wreck kind of thing. I was just watching it. I 161 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 6: just can't I can't stop thinking about it. 162 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 4: I don't know. 163 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 5: Okay, let me ask you this, Tarika. This will help 164 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 5: me understand. What do you put on your frozen yogurt? 165 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 6: Oh? Well, like the flavors coordinate, like I'll do like, 166 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 6: you know, two tree flavors that like all make. 167 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 4: Sense together, but no toppings. 168 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 6: I'll do some toppings, but I'll do like, oh, like, 169 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 6: let's do like a strawberry and a chocolate with like 170 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 6: some fresh strawberries on it or something like that that 171 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 6: makes sense, Like I do a couple of things. 172 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no, I get it now. Her closet is 173 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 5: like it's color coordinating it is. Actually yeah, see okay, 174 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 5: I just needed to understand, okay, why the chaos. 175 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: Was third. 176 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 6: Chaos is a good word for it. 177 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the reason that you're ghosting. It was because 178 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,679 Speaker 2: of the toppings on his froyo. 179 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 6: I was just kind of picturing, you know how, like 180 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 6: there's those people at the like soda fountains that they 181 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 6: get like a splash of every single flavor in the 182 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 6: cup like that always. 183 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 5: Okay, so I do that too. What Yeah, it's a 184 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 5: very incoction. It's called Anina. I understand your name, like 185 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 5: Nina aid, you know, like lemonade. 186 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: Was like anyways, Erica, thank you for telling us. I 187 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: should also you know that Remy is on the phone 188 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 2: listening and wants to talk to a little. 189 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 3: So yeah, I guess I kind of like you could 190 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 3: say a fruit punch of frozen yogurt, like you've heard 191 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 3: of the kid in the candy store, while I'm like 192 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 3: the man in the frog place, Like I just can't 193 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 3: make my mind. So I guess maybe I didn't want 194 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: to hold on the date, so kind of deciding I 195 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 3: just added a little bit of everything. Sorry about that. 196 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 5: If I don't think you need to apologize. 197 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 3: I found pretty offended, So. 198 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 6: I was okay, So I clarifica said, I'm so sorry. 199 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 6: I was not offended. I was just blown away flesh. 200 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 4: My mind is just blown. 201 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 6: Like I don't think I had the power to think 202 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 6: after that. 203 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 3: You know, maybe sometime I could go out for pizza 204 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 3: or something, but you know, I like to order a 205 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 3: lot of topics. 206 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 6: Those, so I was gonna say, like, how many topics 207 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 6: go on your pizza? Like are you one of those 208 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 6: people that put party contina butter or something, but. 209 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 3: Maybe some sausage and pine applehole and green pepper and 210 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 3: onion and Canadian bacon and taco and you know, pepperoni 211 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 3: and black olives, green olives, So not too many mushrooms, 212 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 3: but not too many toppings. 213 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 5: But I. 214 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 6: Don't know that well, at least like with pizzas, you 215 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 6: can usually order like a half and half. 216 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 3: So but yeah, so it was just a proio huh. 217 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 3: Like it was really kind of just going around an 218 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 3: ear from you. 219 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 6: Oh, Like I wasn't really like ghosting me because of it. 220 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 6: I just got in my head about it and then 221 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 6: I honestly I meant to get back to you, and 222 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 6: then I just I didn't like that. That's it, like 223 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 6: I wish I had a better use, I wish I 224 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 6: had a clever and I have nothing. 225 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 2: It was just would you like to go out with 226 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: Remy again? We'll pay for it. I mean, we'll pay 227 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:26,599 Speaker 2: for most of it. I don't know how much is 228 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: FROO cost if you guys get FROO, but we'll pay 229 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: for it. 230 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 6: I mean, I guess the big your question is like, 231 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 6: is he willing to go out with me again? 232 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: That's fair? 233 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that, uh pizza with the twenty topping 234 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: just sounded pretty good now, so that'd be awesome. 235 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 6: Well, I mean, if you want a third date, just 236 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 6: don't get the twenty topping pizza. 237 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 4: I'm like, you get 238 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: First follow up