WEBVTT - 10ish Cases of Really Bad Luck 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:03.400 Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, a production of My 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:12.520 Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:15.920 I'm Josh Clark, There's Charles w Chuck Bryant, there's Jerry 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:18.720 over there. And this is the Stuff you should Know 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:24.960 about people who have really bad luck? Nine of them. Yeah, 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:27.800 we can't. I don't think we've ever done a full 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:30.320 top ten list? Have we? That that that should be 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:33.440 our last episode. Yeah, it's like stuff you should know, 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:39.240 its ten biggest regrets. Right, that's a great idea. Yeah, 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:41.319 that'll be the last one. All right, let's write that down. 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:45.040 There's no we don't have ten regrets. Yeah. I guess 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:46.840 we couldn't do a full time Actually, we could probably 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:50.840 come up with ten. No, we couldn't. Vid con number one. 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:54.639 That's a big one. This intro is definitely up there 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:58.639 to number two. We're on our way, all right, Um, 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:02.400 how are you feeling pretty good? I'm great? You feel lucky? Punk, 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:07.160 I'm a pretty lucky person. I will say that I 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:10.760 would agree with that good fortune. My friends have called 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:13.360 me the rabbit's foot over the years. Yeah, that's why 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:17.120 they're I was rubbing you. But that's that's mainly for 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:21.600 narrowly escaping trouble more than anything. How about a story 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:23.720 chuck lay it on us? Oh just I mean I was. 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:26.560 I was very famous among my group of friends for 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:30.920 getting pulled over by police and not getting tickets. I mean, 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.280 at one point it was it had literally happened like 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:37.479 fourteen times in a row or something over a span 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:41.479 of like ten or twelve years. It happened a lot 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:43.680 that I never and I didn't get my first ticket 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:48.040 until geez, probably my thirties, mid thirties. How did you 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:50.160 have what happened? Did you talk your way out of it? 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:52.880 Or yeah, you know what you do? Man? And my 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:56.200 brother always gets a ticket and he's much nicer than 0:01:56.240 --> 0:02:01.280 I am. But you just got to be as humble, humble, humble, humble, 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:04.080 humble as you can be, and if you show the 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:08.280 slightest bit of attitude, then that police officer, in my experience, 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:11.480 will delight in writing you that ticket. I mean, even 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:15.080 it's if it's a sideways look and I basically just 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:17.400 throw myselves at the mercy of the court on the 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:20.800 side of the road. I'm like, I'm so sorry, officer, 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:24.360 I you were you should have pulled me over. You 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:27.040 did the right thing. I was wrong, and I'm sorry. 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:31.200 There's no excuse here's I was gonna eat these French fries. 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:33.440 But you should take them. You're the hero here. Think 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:36.360 they're always a little disarmed and they're like, oh, oh okay, 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.040 well I guess I can let you off of the warning. 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:41.519 I don't know. That's been my experience. All right, there's 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:44.919 chuck advice right there. So you get out of fourteen tickets? 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:48.480 So did you forget to the last fifteen time? Did 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:51.000 you forget? Did you sneer call them a pig? What? No? 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:52.680 I think it was just one of those things where 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:55.000 like they were writing the ticket even before I had 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:57.480 a chance to do my little song and dance, and 0:02:57.520 --> 0:02:59.040 they brought me the ticket and I was kind of like, well, 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:01.720 wait a minute, don't you know who who I am? 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:04.200 I'm the guy that gets out of tickets. Oh? I 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:05.799 thought you were gonna say, I'm Chuck from stuff. You 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.520 should know that means nothing. That's how you that's how 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:12.200 you get out of them these days, buddy. Well, um, 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:15.959 we're talking today about some people who have very bad luck. 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:18.120 And you know, like a lot of these lists usually 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:20.600 are just like uh no to this one. No to 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:23.400 that one. No, this is wrong. Um. I think we 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:27.280 tried to do a list once where like, oh man, 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:29.360 I can't remember which one it was, but like every 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:34.040 single entry was just like just false. Right. That's only 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:36.080 the case with like three of these this time, which 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:39.360 I'm pretty that's not a bad batting average, realistical. Yeah, 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:42.640 and some of these are. The word luck kind of 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:45.960 bothers me sometimes because as is the case, We'll go 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.840 ahead and get to the first one, Ron Wayne, who 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:51.880 was one of the original three partners of Apple Computers. 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:55.440 That's not bad luck. Ron Wayne made a board business decision. 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:58.240 Have you. Uh, that's a good point. Have you ever 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:02.080 heard of Ron Wayne before? Know you? No? I haven't, 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:03.920 And had I heard his name, I would have been like, 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:06.960 he sounds like porn actor, but he's not a peorgn actor. 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:09.880 Oh no, that was That was another guy. I can't 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:15.520 say his real name though. Uh who, I demand that 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:18.640 you say it. I'll tell you off Mike, Okay. So, um, 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:22.320 he turns out this guy was not a pornography actor. 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:26.400 He was one of the three founders of Apple and 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:28.320 as far as I had known to this point, there 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:31.400 were two founders of Apple. Turns out there were three 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.560 at the beginning for like the first twelve days. Yeah, 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:36.920 so go back to nine seventy six in our way 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:40.880 back machine and Nerdy Little Jobs and Nerdy Little Wassniak 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:45.440 are young guys uh in their twenties and they had 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:47.880 this great uh they didn't know it at the time. 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:50.760 Well they may have known it or suspected, but this 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:54.600 this great vision for the future. But they were kind 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.760 of kids and they didn't have any experience. So they 0:04:57.760 --> 0:04:59.479 looked to a guy named Ron Wayne who was in 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:02.359 his forty uh to come in and kind of help 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:07.680 what they called with adult supervision, because I mean they 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.880 were programmers from Atari, but yeah, they didn't have the 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:13.600 actual business sense or whatever, and it was just a 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:16.880 party job at the time, I believe so. But I 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.480 had no idea how Tari produced Apple though, did you. 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:23.240 Oh yeah, I did a bunch of Atari research stuff 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:26.600 for my tech stuff guest but oh, okay, cool, Yeah, 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:29.320 we did a history of Atari two parter. Oh, speaking 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:31.320 of guest spots man, let me just also give a 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:34.480 shot out real quick. Sorry to interrupt this little entry, 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:36.880 but I was on um our good friend John go 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:43.000 Forths and our new friend Brent's podcast Hysteria fifty one recently. Yeah, 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.680 we talked about the family Paradox for like an hour 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:48.760 and it was awesome. So go check that out Hysteria 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:52.400 fifty one. Go check out that out. Okay, so plug 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:57.640 out right. So we're in ninety six uhs and Jobs 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:02.159 have recruited one one Wayne, Ron Wayne to be the 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:05.800 adult in the room to help with engineering documentation. And 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:09.520 it was actually Ron Wayne who uh who drafted the 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:13.200 very first Apple contract and said, you know, this is 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:15.599 what they agreed on. He did make it up, which 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:18.440 said how much everyone is going to get He got 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:22.760 ten percent two jobs and wasasniakst And he even created 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.599 the first Apple logo, which was not the logo we 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:27.960 know and loved now. It was a It was like 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:32.400 a woodcut um style thing of Isaac Newton under the 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:37.240 Apple tree. Not that sounds terrible. Yeah, I disagree. I 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:41.240 think it sounds ugly. So um Ron Wayne the while 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:43.600 he was there, he very quickly was like, I don't 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:45.680 know if this is my kind of place. I thought 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:47.240 it was a good idea. I like what these guys 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:51.480 are doing, but this company in a garage. Steve Jobs 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:55.240 keeps taking acid during the middle of business hours. Um 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:58.839 did he really? Yeah? Wow, Steve Jobs thought he was 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:04.040 pretty cool from what I understand. Um he Uh, Ron 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:06.120 Wayne was like, I don't I don't think I fit 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:09.520 in here. Also, apparently he was worried that he was 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:12.680 going to have to pony up for you know, whatever 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.320 business debts they incurred. I think that was a big deal. 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:17.600 And he was like, all right, I'm out. I'm out. 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:19.320 Because he was an adult and he was like I've 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:22.320 got a house and like I'm a real adult human, 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:25.720 Like they're gonna turn to me certainly when they do. So. 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.520 He he cashed out in in twelve days, twelve days 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:32.560 after they established their contract, and the contract um was 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:34.520 kept by Ron Wayne. Actually we'll get to that in 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.440 a second. But he cashed out for twenty three hundred 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.920 dollars two d thirty thousand, you say, no, two thousand, 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:44.520 three hundred, which is still today worse less than like 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:47.800 ten grand um. And he didn't even get it all 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:50.400 at once. He got eight hundred right then, and then 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:53.880 uh he agreed to take fifteen hundred later. And that 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:57.360 was nineteen seventies six, And in nineteen eighty Apple went 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:02.440 public and everybody involved came an instant millionaire, and years 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:07.760 later it hit the trillion dollar mark for valuation, and 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:10.600 all the while, Ron Wayne got to watch this company 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:14.000 grow and grow and grow and realized that he'd sold 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:18.920 off ten percent of the steak in the company for Yeah, 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:22.400 and apparently if he had held all those stocks, uh, 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:25.320 he'd be worth close to a hundred billion dollars. So 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:27.520 he he takes issue with that. He said, he probably 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:30.640 lost out on tens of millions. Yeah, I mean, I 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:33.640 guess it depends on what like you can't since you 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:36.920 can't go back and do it all over again like 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:41.400 Eddie Money says, Uh. I guess there's always the thing 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:44.080 of like well yeah, but he always maintains I would 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:48.959 have gotten out after that before the big cash in anyway, probably, 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:51.160 so I don't like to look at it. Is that 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:54.000 sort of a loss, is what he tells himself basically, 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:56.520 or else I would have gone totally insane a long 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:59.880 time ago. Yeah, but he did apparently. Uh. He wrote 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:03.400 a Facebook essay and said, I probably that would have 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:07.000 been around in nineteen eighty and gotten some pretty good change, 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:09.719 and and I think regrets it. Yeah, he said, had 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.200 he known that, and everybody was going to become a 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:15.000 millionaire in four years. He definitely would have hung in there, 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:18.120 but he just it's hindsight, you know. Yeah, and the 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:21.480 cherry on top here is pretty interesting though. He said 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:24.760 he kept that contract, that very first Apple contract that 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:27.720 he drew up, and he kept it and he auctioned 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:31.640 it off in the early nineties four how much five 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:37.160 hundred somoleans five dollars and when what happened not bad. 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:39.600 It was just a piece of paper he had hanging around. 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:45.120 Somebody turned around and auctioned it off years later in 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:49.160 two thousand and eleven four almost one point six million. 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.920 Poor Ron Wayne. Now that one's bad luck. I wonder 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:59.040 what he did though with his life. He wrote essays 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:03.000 on Facebook. I mean I Betty did okay, Yeah, I 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.920 guess so. I mean Steve jobs okay, but I doubt 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:09.600 if you, like you know, got a got a low wage, 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:13.600 hourly paying job. I don't know. He became Eddie Money's 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:17.760 tour manager. Things worked out then, right, And every time 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.240 any money saying I want to go back in tear 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:25.160 down Ron Wayne's face. So, um, I think we should 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:28.960 move on. We're gonna leave Ron Wayne because my hat also, 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:32.760 we should definitely tip our heads to anyone who faced 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:38.680 adversity like this and was like as happens and has 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:41.760 had tipped to Ron Wayne for that one. Um and 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:47.360 Hodges did not have that kind of experience. She is 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:50.439 the only, person, as far as anyone knows, the only 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:54.040 human being in the history and recorded history of humanity 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:58.280 to have been hit by a meteor Right, I'm laughing 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:03.080 and I shouldn't. Um. Well, actually she didn't get that hurt, 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.200 so that's why I feel okay laughing. It's not like 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:08.520 it fell on her head and killed her. It's November 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:14.559 thirty in Alabama and eight point five pound a meteorite, 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:18.720 uh came through her roof, bounced off of a radio 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:21.760 and hit her in the hip. Yeah. It makes you 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:24.640 wonder like if if she had been you know, where 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:28.240 the radio was, and this wasn't like a bounced like 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:32.480 uh ricochet, Yeah, a ricochet. I mean, how much worse 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.760 would things have been? Yeah? Probably dead. There's a I 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:38.280 saw a picture I'm Reddit of her, just randomly. We 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.959 had already picked this episode and started researching, and I 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:45.160 saw a picture of her bruise on Reddit and it was, um, 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:48.960 pretty nasty, pretty nasty, little bruise, but that was about 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:52.120 as bad as it got physically. Um. So, she was 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:55.480 laying on the couch, a meteorite came through her roof, 0:11:55.840 --> 0:12:00.520 hit her radio, hit her, and um she became almost 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:05.160 immediately a media sensation because word got out very quickly 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:08.640 that a woman had been struck by a meteorite, probably 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:12.160 the first and only person ever. Yeah, and and that's 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:16.199 super rare. Like, it's rare. It's rare for a meteorite 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:19.480 to fall just in an urban area where people live 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:21.840 or suburban area where people live. Can say, I don't 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.680 know if I would call Alabama urban. Yeah, I mean, 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.960 it's it's just not usual like usually meteorites, you know, 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:29.760 there's a lot of water on Earth. Usually they'll just 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:33.880 land in the ocean somewhere. Um So it's big news 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:38.280 if a meteorite hits anywhere near people, much less hitting 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:43.040 a person. Right. There's a meteorologist named Michael Reynolds who 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:46.360 told National Geographic get this. He said, you have a 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:49.160 better chance of being hit by a tornado, bolt of 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:52.160 lightning and a hurricane at the same time than you 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:55.640 do a meteorite. I'm not sure how he actually quantified that, 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:58.079 but that's one of the better quotes I've read in 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:00.880 a while. Yeah, and this is where it gets this 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:05.320 is just so America in USA is there was a 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:09.360 court battle between her and her landlord because her landlord 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:14.240 was like, that's my space rock because it's my house 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:17.240 and she and and Hodges is like, no, that's my 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:20.080 space rock because it hit me and the hip. And 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:23.440 they went to court and Hodges actually won and got 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:29.480 to keep that uh sadly ultimately valueless meteorite. Yes, she's 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:33.560 she's settled. Actually, she ended up paying the landlord five 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:37.160 bucks for the right to the rock. But by the 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:41.840 time this was finally settled two years later, they found 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:44.839 out that nobody cared any longer. There was old news, 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:47.600 so nobody wanted to buy the meteor right. And you 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.520 might think, well, okay, it's not clear that anyone would 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:52.680 ever wanted to buy the meteor right to begin with. 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:56.120 Not true. They have a neighbor just down the road 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:59.080 who had just the tiniest little piece of that space 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:02.199 rock and sold it. At the time, this thing was 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:05.240 a big media sensation and was able to buy a 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:08.199 new house and a new car from the proceeds. So 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:11.840 the Hodges were like clearly we've got the space rock. 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.120 We're gonna cash in. We're gonna buy the state of 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:17.640 Alabama with the proceeds. But two years later it was 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:22.800 totally valueless, and Um and Hodges actually had a just 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:25.520 just kept taking turns for the worst and ended up 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:29.160 dying in a nursing home at age forty nine after 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:32.880 having a nervous breakdown from the the whole ordeal. Yeah, 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:36.280 it's very sad, um, but that meteorite is on display 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.520 at the Alabama Museum of Natural History. And I hope 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:43.800 that there is at least a small plaquard that memorializes her. 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:47.800 Surely there is, right, I would, I would hope so, yeah, 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:50.000 which that that would be a nice thing after a 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:53.160 string of bad luck. That's pretty bad luck. Should we 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.160 take a break? I think we should. All right, We're 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:58.720 gonna take a break and talk about the unluckiest person 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:26.480 in the music industry right at of this Chuck, Chuck. 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:31.160 I have a tad bit of anxiety because beats No, 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:34.400 No No. I have anxiety about this one just because 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:38.880 it's so rotten and rough. I feel so bad for 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:42.320 this guy. Well, here's the thing. Before the break, I 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:47.360 called former First Beatles drummer, not former first, but former 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:50.760 and first Beetles drummer Pete Best, the unluckiest man of music. 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:54.320 He's been called that. Uh, that's not true either. Pete 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:57.400 Best didn't have bad luck. Pete Best didn't have good chops. 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:03.640 Oh is that what it was? Yeah? So okay, wells okay, 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:06.800 that's totally different. I thought it was. I I didn't 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.840 think it was bad luck necessarily obviously didn't jibe with 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:12.320 the group. But I thought maybe it was like he 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.400 had to walk around being like I have a terrible 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:17.200 personality and that's why I'm not a Beatle or whatever. 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:19.280 Now we'll we'll get to that. So let's go back 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:23.120 in time. Pete bess Uh in the very early days 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:24.960 of the Beatles in the nineteen fifties when they were 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:29.440 known as the Quarryman Um. His mom. He was a 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:32.480 drummer and his mom had the he owned something called 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:36.280 the Kasbak Coffee Club in Liverpool, and she was she 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.480 was cool and she was very like ahead of her 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:44.520 time as far as um the Liverpool music scene very 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:47.200 much out in front of it. So it's the kind 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:50.240 of deal where like well, pizza drummer and his mom 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:55.200 owns a place where we can play. So he's in 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:57.920 the band, and it's good because now we got a 0:16:57.920 --> 0:16:59.800 place where we can gig and we got a drummer 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:03.640 that that can play. Okay, he's handsome. That was a 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.359 big part of it, was he Yeah, that was a 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:09.080 big thing over the years. What that that was rumored 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:11.679 that he was kicked out because Paul said he was 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:14.440 too handsome and he didn't want any competition. Are you 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.360 Is he still around? Yeah, he's alive. Okay, well I'm 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:21.920 not gonna say the next part then, so um, he 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:24.280 he was enough. So I guess at the time the 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:28.000 Beatles by by the time Pete Best was kind of 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:31.760 brought on, he wasn't like officially brought on as as 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:35.159 like the Beatles Beatles as we think of them today, 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:36.879 where there was like four of them. There was like 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:40.120 a rotating bunch of drummers, and Pete Best was one 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.920 of those drummers, right, Yeah, but he played, I mean 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:46.040 he was he kind of It was sort of like 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:48.080 when I rotated and stuff. You should know early on 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:50.960 a little bit like there was still a rotation going 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:53.479 for a short time and I think and then everyone 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:57.320 else just went away, like Pete best played like eighty 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:01.959 something gigs with the Beatles pre Hamburg, I think, okay, 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:03.920 And then they took him to Hamburg, which apparently was 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.680 a big, big turning point for everybody. They paid eighty 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:09.840 shows a week in Hamburg. I saw a great quote. Um, 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:12.520 they said that, So in Hamburg is where the Beatles 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:15.040 like really started to become like the Beatles, like, are 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:17.800 they coalesced into a band? I saw that they arrived 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:22.160 wearing lilac sports jackets and trousers and left wearing black 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:26.120 leather jackets and jeans. That's where they learned sex, drugs 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:28.840 and rock and roll. Yeah, Pete Bess wasn't into the 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:31.919 drugs though, like the other three guys, so that was 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:37.280 a problem. Sure, that's a buzz kill when the one 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:39.000 guy in the room is just sitting there staring at 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:42.239 you judge. Yeah, well I would. I mean, that's kind 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:45.199 of a buzz kill, I would guess, right, Yeah, yeah, probably. 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:47.680 So I think they were all like doing speed back then. 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:51.119 Oh sure, because they were playing literally like six or 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:53.720 seven shows at night. Were they really playing that many? Oh? 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:59.159 It was ridiculous? Wow? Yeah, So, um, he was in 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:01.680 a group called the Black Jack's before that though, went 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:05.840 to Hamburg, Hamburg with the Beatles, and then right after 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:09.600 that the Beatles go back to England in Nino and 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:11.800 they were just about to go into the studio to 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:16.160 record their first singles for E M. I and UH. 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:20.359 Legendary manager Brian Epstein called up and said, sorry, bloke, 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:23.840 the boys want you out and it's already been arranged, yeah, 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:28.920 meaning like don't even bother it's done, which is sad 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:31.760 um and Pete Best took it pretty hard, from what 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:35.000 I understand for horrible. In a horrible twist of iron, 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:38.360 he ended up working at the unemployment office, but working 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:42.000 there now, hanging out there. Um and by this time 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:44.240 like he had made a name for himself around Liverpool 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:48.080 as as a musician in a beatle. Um. The reason 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:51.320 why he's called the Unluckiest man of music is not 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:54.200 because he was a Beatle at one point in time, 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:56.560 but that he was a Beatle at one point in 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:59.040 time and was kicked out of the band a few 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:03.880 weeks before the Beatles blew up, and um, it almost 0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:06.280 makes you wonder like did they blow up because they 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:08.520 moved on to Ringo or was it like that was 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:12.720 just bad timing? Well, I mean, here's the deal. Uh. 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:16.479 There are interviews out there with both Um John and Paul. 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:18.720 There has always been the rumor, like I said that 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:23.720 Pete's handsomeness threatened the band. Um that is not true. 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:26.520 Paul was on record of saying, like, you know, it's 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:28.760 just something that happens. Early in the days of bands 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:32.280 like ring we were just really struck by how great 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:35.600 Ringo was. Pete Best sat out one gig because he 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:38.840 was sick or something, Ringo sat in and they were 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:42.199 all just like wow, like they all felt it, and 0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:44.320 it was just sort of that magic happening where they're like, 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:47.040 oh boy, I know what's got to happen. Um John, 0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:50.879 for his part, said, you know, it had nothing to 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:52.760 do with his looks. He said he was just kind 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:55.000 of a crap drummer. I mean he was. John was 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:57.440 not the nicest guy in the world. So he really 0:20:57.480 --> 0:20:59.000 kind of threw through it all on the table and 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:01.160 was like he wasn't a good drummer. He just wasn't. 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:04.480 He was a good first drummer, and clearly it was 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:06.520 time to move on from him. Uh. And it was 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:08.920 mainly because his mom owned a place where we could play. 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:12.600 Not very nice gotcha. No, but I mean that doesn't 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:15.520 make him unlucky. No, he didn't have the chops, and 0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:19.840 you know he, I mean, he's he's reckoned with it. 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:22.480 I saw an article from last year where he was 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:25.080 like he never spoke to the other three guys again, 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:27.280 and he was like, yeah, I mean and Paul, I'd 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:28.960 love to sit down and like have a scotch and 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:34.720 talk about it. And he's like, the doors open. Oh really, Yeah. 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:36.280 I don't know if Paul's going to do that though, 0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:39.280 maybe not. Uh. He was on Howard Stern. Paul was 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:41.520 and Howard was like, are you ever just gonna write 0:21:41.560 --> 0:21:46.440 him a check just out of guilt? He's just like, no, no, No. 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:49.679 He did get royalties though later on when the Beatles 0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:53.840 anthology came out, because that included stuff from Pete Best, 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:57.040 so he ended up getting some money. He made out. Okay, Yeah, 0:21:57.320 --> 0:22:00.800 I think the lesson here is don't ever get Yeah, 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:05.879 that's the key, everybody, that's right. So we're gonna go 0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:11.360 from nineteen sixties Liverpool too over to the New Orleans 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:15.640 area where they have hurricanes. Supposedly they have a hurricane 0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:18.720 party every time the wind blows have heard, but they 0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:22.399 actually do have legitimate hurricanes, and those hurricanes can do 0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:24.800 a lot of damage, as we saw in two thousand 0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:28.080 and five with Hurricane Katrina. By the time Hurricane Katrina 0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:33.120 rolled around, a woman named Melanie Martinez was on her 0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:39.919 fourth house having been destroyed by a hurricane. Um previously 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:45.560 George one and n and Betsy in nineteen sixty five 0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:48.480 had destroyed her house by the time Katrina came around. 0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:52.760 But after Katrina, everybody really learned their lesson. They're like, Okay, 0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:56.240