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Coch Yeah, fellas, appreciate y'all coming in here. Man, 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:14.520 That is when we need the action. We need the action. 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:17.120 Talk talk about growing up obviously, and we'll get right 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:18.920 into talk about just growing up in Philly and y'all 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:22.720 playing hooping together. Like what was that vibe like between two? 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:25.800 You know, I got people to feel. I'm just like 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:26.399 got people. 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:27.440 He ain't got people. 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:29.480 All down South. 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:31.360 I see him at fairly Reewis and I don't go 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:33.760 to them no more. When I got people in feeling. 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:37.479 That's why we get. That's how Southfield. I only see 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:38.920 him at family reunions and I ain't been in one 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:39.600 of the years. 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:41.160 So North Southfield we got problems. 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:53.240 No, yeah, just a little bit. 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:53.520 Man. 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:56.840 We played We played au with with Dion. Yeah he 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:02.360 was ten, eleven years old. Yeah, looks is that you talk? 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:09.680 You know he got that still he ain't he believes, 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:14.320 still still coming and Jimmy walking, you could be out 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:20.320 of it, don't even matter, still killing you still got. 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:25.960 I don't understand that. But boy, whatever you say it 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:27.880 what you. 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:34.040 A good side for real. Growing up in the city, man, 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:37.280 Like in North Philly, it was fun. Like it was 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:38.679 fun because we had each other and we had a 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:41.600 lot of friends. So like before we even was doing 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:44.120 who we was like playing football just in the neighborhood, 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:47.600 right like, so we've always like been connected to like 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:49.640 a lot of people, like even in South Philly. Went 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:51.520 we went to high school in South Philly. A lot 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:54.160 of our friends was from a different part of Philly, 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:56.720 so we like well rounded in the entire city. So 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:58.880 it was cool. Man, played in all the outside, every 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:02.160 last one every at play, Like. 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:05.600 I know, I know when you see. 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:10.840 What is wrong with the doing. I just came from 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:11.919 practice with the heat and I'm. 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:17.520 Yeah, we're going to Yeah, you know you're going to 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:19.240 some ship right now. 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:25.040 They do. I see it on Instagram. They they be 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:26.320 still hooping like they still. 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:30.680 We just had had like forty we're just fifty over. 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:34.760 League were out there. It's just fun. Man. It's like 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:36.880 we try to stay. We could play with the homies. 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:39.120 The boys like it. You know, I got three boys. 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.440 He got too, so they like coming to the games. 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:45.360 All boys love. I gotta one one girl. I got 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:48.800 three boys to man two, four and six. So I'm 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:51.880 in the thick love it. You're gonna love it. 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.960 Yeah, fun, I know they I know they just be 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:57.080 like damn here again when you all just pull up 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:58.960 for the parks all. 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:01.960 The time, like a bunch of them, like we was 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.440 doing that. And I at a small scale that was 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:12.760 like to come off South, give me, let me get 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:14.600 some George is two hundred. I'll be out there in 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:15.520 the second. 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:18.920 Because I kids, I don't know if our kids have 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:22.200 ever experienced those things. Because it's the workout culture. They're 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:23.680 gonna get to the gym and they got a coach 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.039 and he gonna do all that. And and my son 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:28.040 I took this play. I took him to play pick 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:29.960 up one day and he lost, and he had kept 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:32.040 looked at me, talk abou when I'm gonna get back on. 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:33.640 This is what happened when you lose at the ball, 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:36.920 waiting for five games, you're looking at me for win 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:39.720 the next game. They don't understand that, like you know 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:41.640 what I'm saying, because it's that workout culture. They go 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:43.839 to the gym, they put two hours working post that, 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:45.159 and they think they got it. 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:48.400 We're loved different too, Like we actually loved that, all right. 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:51.280 So we grow up hooping North Philly in the park 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:54.240 getting Jordans and two hundred bucks. How big was that check? 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:56.440 When y'all went to Kansas. 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:01.680 They got a check from Florida got I would have 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:03.240 it was my room, man. I know he did. 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:04.839 God damn killing you. 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:09.320 I was there with him. I know what he got. 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:13.640 You do go ahead, man asked the question for that killer. 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:15.960 I can say that though, man, Like you know, it's 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:18.080 we've been in the league for a while. We did 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:21.279 get something. The first tell you we were sold on tradition. 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:24.880 Yeah we were so yeah, because really we wasn't. We 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:28.120 wasn't recruited by Kansas, so we were going to Memphis. 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:31.080 We were going to act. Colin Perry was the coach. 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:34.039 You know what I'm saying. I wasn't wasn't recruited by cann't. 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:36.719 We was committed to Memphis for a year and a half. 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:44.200 Yeah we heard we got we got when that uh college? Right? 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:44.520 Oh? 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:46.719 Yeah? And we was like all right, well, we're going 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:48.480 to do a year of prep school anyway. So we 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:51.760 had to come out the commitment. And a mentor of 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:54.720 ours like was watching Kansas a lot and he was like, Yo, 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:56.760 they get forwards to the league. That's what Bill South do. 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:02.720 I'm like, who know one of my homies about that? Bro? 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:06.800 We didn't watch college basketball at all young even like 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:09.159 we weren't. To be honest, bro, like before we met 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.920 this man's name was Dan Brinkley. He wasn't even talking 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.800 about playing basket like that isn't Yeah, this was our now. 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:17.600 He followed us home, real real talk. He followed his 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:21.200 home in high school, knocked on the door and basically 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:23.800 was like told my mom, if you if you allowed 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:25.400 the boys to like work with me, I can get 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:27.080 him to go to college for free. That was the 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:30.160 whole conversation. How old are you at the time. He 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:34.320 was like for real. Yeah, we would play like wreck, 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:39.360 but we were bumping playing organ No, No, that's when 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:43.800 we got just started. Yeah, we just started. So it 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:45.719 was like we was playing football. We wasn't really in 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:49.360 hoping in the family, like the nothing that was, like 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:51.960 nobody in the family went to college. My only only 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:53.839 athlete for real, we had we had a cousin that 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:57.440 played football and my uncle was a boxer. Outside of that, 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.120 I'm sorry, listen, I gonna tell you what. 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:01.760 Thanks show anybody that know anything if you show up 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:03.240 to a black mama house and say you can get 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:09.400 their son in college from so so so college. 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:11.600 Yeah, you know it was local college too. I keep 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.400 him out of trouble, I get him in school. So 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:16.480 it was all local too. We were talking about like 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.000 the temples of Lasalles, like you know, the low to 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:22.040 me whatever, you know what I'm saying. It was in Philly, 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:24.640 like we never even thought about none of that, and 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:26.360 then you know, it started to happen. 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.280 So this is dopest, So talk to me. Then, So 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:32.160 that happened, you're thirteen, fourteen, whatever? What changed from that 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:33.800 point on? And like did he was? 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:34.000 It? 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:35.760 Was it just opportunity? 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:36.400 Was it was? 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:36.760 It working. 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:39.440 Yeah, we just started working, like we didn't play. We 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:43.360 played freshman basketball in ninth grade year school called Saint 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:46.400 John Newman, right and it was in South Philly, and 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:48.920 they kicked us out because we was always late, so 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:52.200 far from the crib. From the crib. It was like 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:54.280 we literally got to be at school, like you get 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:56.120 the marriage, you got attention in the morning. We got 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:57.960 to be there at six thirty. Like it was like, bro, 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:00.760 can't do this. I couldn't do it. And kicking us out. 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:03.920 We went back to our neighborhood school. And then that's 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:05.080 when she started turning around. 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.240 Let me ask you, my mom went to the schools. 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:10.640 Do y'all disagree? Y'all always on the same page. Uh, 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:14.560 we disagree with everything, Like every decision seem like every 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:15.760 decision y'all was making together. 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:20.200 We agreed to disagree where it'd be like, you know 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:23.520 what if this happened, I'm going with this and here 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:26.640 like that happened then, Like that's how we went to 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:29.160 school to be We played the game. Settle our differences 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:32.320 in the game. In my second Yeah, we get in 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:35.480 the game, beat me in the game for something pissing 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:35.800 me off. 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:39.720 You gotta eat that all day to live with all days. 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:44.160 Up twenty one night around the crib like not even man, 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:46.640 that my kids. It was my kids. Fun man, they 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:49.800 fought all in my head and I can't focus on 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:52.679 the game. Yeah, but going to even even with our 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:56.400 decision to change schools from Memphis to Kansas, we were 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:58.880 sitting in the in the crib and my grandma crib 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:00.680 and we like, he liked the Memphis and I like 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:04.280 love Mephis were like, listen, they're playing against each other's 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:10.080 a national championship right at school and Mario hit that shot. 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.760 My stomach was hurting old time. We're gonna have to 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:16.560 go to Memphis. Dog want to go to Memphis. Here 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:18.320 we're gonna rock out, and then he hit the shot. 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:21.679 The whole by the way, that's the funny in the. 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:24.880 World right there, all where y'all going based on who 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.439 ones and that we always just like you know what 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:29.960 I mean, We always like get affirmations from each other, 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.640 like you know what I'm saying, but we always disagree, 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:34.480 right can you When we're gonna do what you say, 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:36.920 I went I'm feeling this way, and then we're gonna 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:39.640 do what I say. Like both good, both good know 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:42.080 what I'm saying. Yeah, just figured that. 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:46.280 So can't talk talk Kansas though obviously Bill self legendary 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:47.800 dude now that you actually know. 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:51.439 Him coaches coming from the coach coming from Philly, I 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:53.920 don't know. I know nothing about can. 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:57.280 We had our first workout in front of him. We 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.760 thought we was going hard, and he always tells the 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:04.800 story the name Joe Dooley coach. They always tell the 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:06.880 story like you can't watch his workout. You know, we're 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:08.760 in there dunk and we we we felt like we're 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:12.240 doing we're doing something. He like, yo scutled one a team. 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:14.600 What y'all thought that workout was? We was like like 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:17.080 a six seven. We were going crazy. Like no, that's 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:23.480 like a negative, negative because you're talking about huh. It's 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:27.640 just it's just that different college and high school. Okay, Yeah, 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:30.280 it's like that love the standard that were playing with 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:32.960 guys in Lasle and the colleges around that we were 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:35.360 standing toe to toe to you know what I'm saying. 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:37.880 Then it's like the Kansas and it's like a whole 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:40.920 different shape over, different mentality, a whole different platform, a 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:42.320 whole different like you know what I'm saying. 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:44.440 After but after going through we all know this. Man, 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:46.320 you think you're working hard in high school, you ain't. 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.000 You think you're working hard. In college, you ain't working hard. 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:51.080 You think you work hard. It's like finally you're like, damn, 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:53.439 I'm working hard on working hard, you know what I mean? 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:56.080 Like that's that that ain't no one's fault. But it's 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:57.640 just life. That's life. 0:10:57.640 --> 0:10:59.559 That's all like a giffing the curse for us going 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.240 to kids, it was like the curse part at first, 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:04.160 like we was like, damn, bro Like, it can't be 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.880 this hard. It can't be like it was extremely hard. 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.240 Bro Like, it was just like literally both was like 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:13.600 we out. It was never really like into like like 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:17.280 crazy school, right. So when we got in there, we're like, Yo, 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.480 we're gonna do this. We're gonna take this u our 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:22.560 course right here, and we're gonna and this is what 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:24.640 we're gonna do to get through school. We're gonna change that, 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:26.439 you know what I'm saying. It's gonna be our major. 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:29.240 We're gonna do it. Was communications, we're gonna really lock 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:32.400 into school. We walked into that, they was working this. 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:39.160 I'm like, yo, change my major. Yeah I can't. But 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.800 that's and that both together. 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:45.440 Yeah, well, how how long we was that Florida til 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:46.280 Billy caught us and off? 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:47.880 About a month and a half. 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:49.720 Month and a half Billy called in office. 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:50.240 This is that? 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:53.320 That's true story too. You want to tell a story. 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:56.600 We literally get called in before practice by the start, 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:57.720 so I think, you know, I mean like he gonna 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:00.760 call us in there talking about hey, come with the business, 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:03.240 y'all gotta leaders, blah blah blah. We sit down and 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:05.120 I'm not. I'm not. We sit down as me and 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:07.000 him right here and coach down across the desk. He 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:11.240 looks at y'all two doing I look, I ain't gonna lie. 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:14.760 I've been grinding. You did wrong the same thing I 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:16.480 looked at you. What you what I've been. I've been 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:18.320 in the weight room, I've been get my job. I'm 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.319 grinding because I don't I hate. I hated school. I 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:21.880 knew I wanted to he hates. 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:23.800 I just wasn't good at it. 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:26.800 So we sitting there, I was like, yo, dog, what 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:29.440 he said if the season started that come play neither 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:33.040 of you both? You gotta for now Ford And I 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:34.000 was like, damn, I got a D. 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.679 And right then I knew I had to start trying. 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:41.400 I have been trying. I've been going to the study session, 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:43.520 I have been doing my home. The man told me 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:45.640 I ain't emailed right then, I said, I got a cheat. 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:47.080 I gotta figure it out. 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:51.280 But we feel, we feel what y'all feel hard. 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:54.040 I'm losing a bunch of weight, like I love, I 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:57.079 love stress, stressed out in school like it was our 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.280 first year for sure, and then he was on that. 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.520 So that's the only part too, is because it's both 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:05.640 of us. If one did something, we both got blak, 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:09.959 like we both really would like if I I'm talking 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:12.120 about I would look at the stop the wrong way. 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:17.840 I was telling to stop doing it. He get in trouble. 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:21.240 You're like, man, listen, I'm not doing that running ran 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:23.480 all up there and do all this dirty man, I 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.040 ain't doing it. Run it till I run it till 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:29.600 I hate. I stopped liking y'all running nice to be like, yo, 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.040 we don't even know just touching. 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:35.120 We used to run twenty and twenty twenty suicide in 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:37.520 twenty minutes. We got thirty five seconds running. You got 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:44.240 twenty five seconds. What are you talking about? Twenty suicide line? 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:46.320 In the back and line it back. We're gonna do 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:47.600 twintt man, I don't even think. 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:50.960 Yeah you did, like you're a gangster. 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:53.600 It's a lot. That was the one to beat Mike up. 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:55.240 That was about quit. 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:59.760 I can't do that. Never passed it about I was. 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.800 I looked at like, I no. 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.160 I ain't gonna lie to you. You got that. 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:14.240 I gave you everything, gave you everything, I got a 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:15.800 bunch of times he looked at me like, bitch, you 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:20.400 don't get your hand. I gave you everything. Sorry, I 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:22.920 don't know, he might say, I did. I don't remember. 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:26.280 I was. I was there like and then start kicking 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:28.440 in when you at like five, you start seeing the 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:32.120 number had five and I'm like, there's no way, and 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:36.520 the number thirty like done. I started looking down the 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:42.200 line like it's coming, like I just stop, literally stopped 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:45.280 all the time with all that, that was like the 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:47.800 best thing that ever happened to us. Like you know 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:49.480 how you when I said the curse in the beginning, 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.120 you see it, You're like, what the going on? And 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:53.920 then you get on the other side of it, and 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:56.160 like we was, we was about to transfer. So we 0:14:56.200 --> 0:15:02.240 went we went to office. We done like at what point? 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:02.680 What point? 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:04.840 Our freshman year after first after freshman year, so you 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:06.800 got through all the your freshman year and they're like, yo, 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:07.240 I'm out. 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:10.200 Of here, and I actually all right, Like we didn't 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:13.040 have bad years. It was me. So it was like, bro, 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:15.280 now you know what, we're gonna go in here together. 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:17.760 We're talking to each other. We're gonna go a here together. 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:20.600 We're gonna tell him we're done, send us back home. 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:23.120 We straight, we're gonna go back to school. 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:23.360 Right. 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:32.840 Went He looked at it. He started laughing, like, yo, 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:39.600 ma at the I said, God worked like that? You 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:41.280 know what that? What did y'all say? You said what 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:44.760 you wanted? He could just do that? That's like he 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:47.040 can't even like you can't. Ain't nothing we could do 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:50.200 about that, like like just calling my mom like we 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:52.600 said we want to leave, you know, He's like, yeah, 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:55.360 you go about you walked it up, like man, we 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.040 tell this, yeah, we want to so confident like like 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:04.680 like twenty minutes later each other like that did not 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:08.120 go as plans, Like yo, what just happened? So he 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:12.440 didn't get y'all no doubt, just laughing man, like got there. 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:16.120 We was we was in eligible coming in the college, right, 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:18.600 so they did you know, they helped us get eligible 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:21.440 a lot of there was a lot of behind it. Yeah, 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:25.880 basically that's what he was like, we did all this, yet. 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:28.560 Ain't ga. 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:34.080 Was a gang all that. There's another reason why we 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:36.200 thankful for him because if he just said go. 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.640 I was just gonna say, who knows what would have happened, 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:42.320 But gosh, damn it a little blessed we. 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:44.280 Wouldn't have worked that hard. Because when he said no, 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:46.960 that's when we had a conversation with each other, like man, 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:50.240 we just go all right, well he said, we ain't 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:52.160 going like you say not, let me know, so like 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:56.440 that's just that's changed up. And even though put on 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:59.240 twenty pounds that summer, like that changed our whole career. 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:01.560 Like he was like, no, we called the strength of 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:04.840 conditioning coach, Like yo, we and this bitch two times 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:07.080 a day running sting. That's why I had nothing to 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.040 do with the NBA. We never even thought about it. 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.240 We were just talking about making it in Kansas, like 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:14.560 we was like making he thought, hold up. 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:17.240 So the NBA was never even when y'all when y'all 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:17.560 mad and. 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:20.240 Said fourteen, ain't worry about no basketball. 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:21.600 No, I understand that. But what I'm saying, but when 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:23.359 you're in Kansas, you're doing Kansas. 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:26.320 We didn't even know like the magnitude of other Kansas 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:29.520 like even going there. Really we were just that's that's 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:32.960 literally the man. He was there too, And I didn't 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:36.000 know who that was. I was like, all we know 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:42.720 is what feeling well, Philly guy play will that's the 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:44.119 person person we know. 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:48.760 So when did the NBA become a reality to y'all? 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:51.000 When did you be like, damn, we might might be 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:54.080 a politic sophomore year. Our sophomore year, that's when it 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.200 that's when it really clicked. Like he started having a 0:17:57.280 --> 0:17:59.359 whole lot of success. Like he was having success our 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:03.119 freshman year and towards the end, but our sophomore year 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:04.720 that's when it start going. He was a starter, and 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:07.080 it was like, yo, they started to show you more 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:10.280 draft boards, you know, the draft ward like because we 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:12.000 ain't got no agents or nothing like that, Like we 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:14.639 ain't talking about the NBA. We just moms in Kansas 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:16.119 with us. We just living a life, like. 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:20.080 Linna be one of the more gangsters in the world. 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:22.200 Is that you guys go thirteen and fourteen in the draft. 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:25.199 Yeah, and that man, And that was even crazy how 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:28.480 that because even with us like getting better and we 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:31.439 knew we was going to go, it was like, all right, 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:33.119 I was playing more, you know what I'm saying. So 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:35.360 my name was stamped in there like for a while 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:41.080 up talk about that. We've been talking about this all 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:43.200 the time. Like I said it, I was leading the 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:47.480 big twelve and rebounds, field goal presenters, blocks, three point 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:50.960 like eight different things. Second team, I'm like, what the 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:54.840 and then don't get no type of all American looks. 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:59.080 I'm like, hold the up, Like all right, sophomore year, 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:01.440 he went out every every camp that you can think of, 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:02.680 all every camp. 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:09.720 I was at the crib. Really take both, y'all. She 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:10.359 was your fire. 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:12.800 But I was cooking though, So it wasn't like I 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:15.760 wasn't like already cooking. I'm looking for that. Almost more 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:20.840 frustrated than that's never twins, Like because twins they put 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:24.080 me as a representation. We got one of them up there, 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:25.960 You're gonna represent both of them, you know what I'm saying. 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:29.679 That's another like gifting the curse when when I when 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:32.000 I came out, they ain't had me getting drafted at all. 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:34.320 So we gotta talk about this and this is fun. 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:38.520 So you walk in the draft night, you still don't know. Obviously, 0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:40.200 you're probably you have a pretty good feel about where 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:40.439 you're going. 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:42.320 We kind of now. But by this time we know 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:50.080 there that I wasn't. I didn't have no uh no workouts. 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:53.720 Like wait a minute, So so when you but you 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:54.840 wasn't on nobody. 0:19:54.600 --> 0:20:00.200 Draft, they end up inviting me to the combin. Ain't 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:02.840 even had I went from doing all that to being 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:06.000