Speaker 1: He liked the Memphis and I like the we like. Listen,
Speaker 1: they're playing against each other as a national championships and
Speaker 1: Mario hit that shot was hurting the old time love.
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Speaker 2: Talk talk about growing up obviously, and we'll get right
Speaker 2: into talk about just growing up in Philly and y'all
Speaker 2: playing hooping together. Like what was that vibe like between two?
Speaker 3: You know, I got people to feel. I'm just like
Speaker 3: got people.
Speaker 1: He ain't got people.
Speaker 2: All down South.
Speaker 3: I see him at fairly Reewis and I don't go
Speaker 3: to them no more. When I got people in feeling.
Speaker 3: That's why we get. That's how Southfield. I only see
Speaker 3: him at family reunions and I ain't been in one
Speaker 3: of the years.
Speaker 2: So North Southfield we got problems.
Speaker 4: No, yeah, just a little bit.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: We played We played au with with Dion. Yeah he
Speaker 1: was ten, eleven years old. Yeah, looks is that you talk?
Speaker 1: You know he got that still he ain't he believes,
Speaker 1: still still coming and Jimmy walking, you could be out
Speaker 1: of it, don't even matter, still killing you still got.
Speaker 3: I don't understand that. But boy, whatever you say it
Speaker 3: what you.
Speaker 1: A good side for real. Growing up in the city, man,
Speaker 1: Like in North Philly, it was fun. Like it was
Speaker 1: fun because we had each other and we had a
Speaker 1: lot of friends. So like before we even was doing
Speaker 1: who we was like playing football just in the neighborhood,
Speaker 1: right like, so we've always like been connected to like
Speaker 1: a lot of people, like even in South Philly. Went
Speaker 1: we went to high school in South Philly. A lot
Speaker 1: of our friends was from a different part of Philly,
Speaker 1: so we like well rounded in the entire city. So
Speaker 1: it was cool. Man, played in all the outside, every
Speaker 1: last one every at play, Like.
Speaker 2: I know, I know when you see.
Speaker 3: What is wrong with the doing. I just came from
Speaker 3: practice with the heat and I'm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to Yeah, you know you're going to
Speaker 1: some ship right now.
Speaker 3: They do. I see it on Instagram. They they be
Speaker 3: still hooping like they still.
Speaker 1: We just had had like forty we're just fifty over.
Speaker 1: League were out there. It's just fun. Man. It's like
Speaker 1: we try to stay. We could play with the homies.
Speaker 1: The boys like it. You know, I got three boys.
Speaker 1: He got too, so they like coming to the games.
Speaker 1: All boys love. I gotta one one girl. I got
Speaker 1: three boys to man two, four and six. So I'm
Speaker 1: in the thick love it. You're gonna love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fun, I know they I know they just be
Speaker 2: like damn here again when you all just pull up
Speaker 2: for the parks all.
Speaker 1: The time, like a bunch of them, like we was
Speaker 1: doing that. And I at a small scale that was
Speaker 1: like to come off South, give me, let me get
Speaker 1: some George is two hundred. I'll be out there in
Speaker 1: the second.
Speaker 3: Because I kids, I don't know if our kids have
Speaker 3: ever experienced those things. Because it's the workout culture. They're
Speaker 3: gonna get to the gym and they got a coach
Speaker 3: and he gonna do all that. And and my son
Speaker 3: I took this play. I took him to play pick
Speaker 3: up one day and he lost, and he had kept
Speaker 3: looked at me, talk abou when I'm gonna get back on.
Speaker 3: This is what happened when you lose at the ball,
Speaker 3: waiting for five games, you're looking at me for win
Speaker 3: the next game. They don't understand that, like you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, because it's that workout culture. They go
Speaker 3: to the gym, they put two hours working post that,
Speaker 3: and they think they got it.
Speaker 1: We're loved different too, Like we actually loved that, all right.
Speaker 2: So we grow up hooping North Philly in the park
Speaker 2: getting Jordans and two hundred bucks. How big was that check?
Speaker 2: When y'all went to Kansas.
Speaker 3: They got a check from Florida got I would have
Speaker 3: it was my room, man. I know he did.
Speaker 1: God damn killing you.
Speaker 3: I was there with him. I know what he got.
Speaker 3: You do go ahead, man asked the question for that killer.
Speaker 1: I can say that though, man, Like you know, it's
Speaker 1: we've been in the league for a while. We did
Speaker 1: get something. The first tell you we were sold on tradition.
Speaker 1: Yeah we were so yeah, because really we wasn't. We
Speaker 1: wasn't recruited by Kansas, so we were going to Memphis.
Speaker 1: We were going to act. Colin Perry was the coach.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I wasn't wasn't recruited by cann't.
Speaker 1: We was committed to Memphis for a year and a half.
Speaker 1: Yeah we heard we got we got when that uh college? Right?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And we was like all right, well, we're going
Speaker 1: to do a year of prep school anyway. So we
Speaker 1: had to come out the commitment. And a mentor of
Speaker 1: ours like was watching Kansas a lot and he was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: they get forwards to the league. That's what Bill South do.
Speaker 1: I'm like, who know one of my homies about that? Bro?
Speaker 1: We didn't watch college basketball at all young even like
Speaker 1: we weren't. To be honest, bro, like before we met
Speaker 1: this man's name was Dan Brinkley. He wasn't even talking
Speaker 1: about playing basket like that isn't Yeah, this was our now.
Speaker 1: He followed us home, real real talk. He followed his
Speaker 1: home in high school, knocked on the door and basically
Speaker 1: was like told my mom, if you if you allowed
Speaker 1: the boys to like work with me, I can get
Speaker 1: him to go to college for free. That was the
Speaker 1: whole conversation. How old are you at the time. He
Speaker 1: was like for real. Yeah, we would play like wreck,
Speaker 1: but we were bumping playing organ No, No, that's when
Speaker 1: we got just started. Yeah, we just started. So it
Speaker 1: was like we was playing football. We wasn't really in
Speaker 1: hoping in the family, like the nothing that was, like
Speaker 1: nobody in the family went to college. My only only
Speaker 1: athlete for real, we had we had a cousin that
Speaker 1: played football and my uncle was a boxer. Outside of that,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, listen, I gonna tell you what.
Speaker 3: Thanks show anybody that know anything if you show up
Speaker 3: to a black mama house and say you can get
Speaker 3: their son in college from so so so college.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it was local college too. I keep
Speaker 1: him out of trouble, I get him in school. So
Speaker 1: it was all local too. We were talking about like
Speaker 1: the temples of Lasalles, like you know, the low to
Speaker 1: me whatever, you know what I'm saying. It was in Philly,
Speaker 1: like we never even thought about none of that, and
Speaker 1: then you know, it started to happen.
Speaker 2: So this is dopest, So talk to me. Then, So
Speaker 2: that happened, you're thirteen, fourteen, whatever? What changed from that
Speaker 2: point on? And like did he was?
Speaker 1: It?
Speaker 2: Was it just opportunity?
Speaker 1: Was it was?
Speaker 2: It working.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we just started working, like we didn't play. We
Speaker 1: played freshman basketball in ninth grade year school called Saint
Speaker 1: John Newman, right and it was in South Philly, and
Speaker 1: they kicked us out because we was always late, so
Speaker 1: far from the crib. From the crib. It was like
Speaker 1: we literally got to be at school, like you get
Speaker 1: the marriage, you got attention in the morning. We got
Speaker 1: to be there at six thirty. Like it was like, bro,
Speaker 1: can't do this. I couldn't do it. And kicking us out.
Speaker 1: We went back to our neighborhood school. And then that's
Speaker 1: when she started turning around.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you, my mom went to the schools.
Speaker 3: Do y'all disagree? Y'all always on the same page. Uh,
Speaker 3: we disagree with everything, Like every decision seem like every
Speaker 3: decision y'all was making together.
Speaker 1: We agreed to disagree where it'd be like, you know
Speaker 1: what if this happened, I'm going with this and here
Speaker 1: like that happened then, Like that's how we went to
Speaker 1: school to be We played the game. Settle our differences
Speaker 1: in the game. In my second Yeah, we get in
Speaker 1: the game, beat me in the game for something pissing
Speaker 1: me off.
Speaker 3: You gotta eat that all day to live with all days.
Speaker 1: Up twenty one night around the crib like not even man,
Speaker 1: that my kids. It was my kids. Fun man, they
Speaker 1: fought all in my head and I can't focus on
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, but going to even even with our
Speaker 1: decision to change schools from Memphis to Kansas, we were
Speaker 1: sitting in the in the crib and my grandma crib
Speaker 1: and we like, he liked the Memphis and I like
Speaker 1: love Mephis were like, listen, they're playing against each other's
Speaker 1: a national championship right at school and Mario hit that shot.
Speaker 1: My stomach was hurting old time. We're gonna have to
Speaker 1: go to Memphis. Dog want to go to Memphis. Here
Speaker 1: we're gonna rock out, and then he hit the shot.
Speaker 3: The whole by the way, that's the funny in the.
Speaker 1: World right there, all where y'all going based on who
Speaker 1: ones and that we always just like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, We always like get affirmations from each other,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, but we always disagree,
Speaker 1: right can you When we're gonna do what you say,
Speaker 1: I went I'm feeling this way, and then we're gonna
Speaker 1: do what I say. Like both good, both good know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, just figured that.
Speaker 2: So can't talk talk Kansas though obviously Bill self legendary
Speaker 2: dude now that you actually know.
Speaker 3: Him coaches coming from the coach coming from Philly, I
Speaker 3: don't know. I know nothing about can.
Speaker 1: We had our first workout in front of him. We
Speaker 1: thought we was going hard, and he always tells the
Speaker 1: story the name Joe Dooley coach. They always tell the
Speaker 1: story like you can't watch his workout. You know, we're
Speaker 1: in there dunk and we we we felt like we're
Speaker 1: doing we're doing something. He like, yo scutled one a team.
Speaker 1: What y'all thought that workout was? We was like like
Speaker 1: a six seven. We were going crazy. Like no, that's
Speaker 1: like a negative, negative because you're talking about huh. It's
Speaker 1: just it's just that different college and high school. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like that love the standard that were playing with
Speaker 1: guys in Lasle and the colleges around that we were
Speaker 1: standing toe to toe to you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Then it's like the Kansas and it's like a whole
Speaker 1: different shape over, different mentality, a whole different platform, a
Speaker 1: whole different like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: After but after going through we all know this. Man,
Speaker 2: you think you're working hard in high school, you ain't.
Speaker 2: You think you're working hard. In college, you ain't working hard.
Speaker 2: You think you work hard. It's like finally you're like, damn,
Speaker 2: I'm working hard on working hard, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like that's that that ain't no one's fault. But it's
Speaker 2: just life. That's life.
Speaker 1: That's all like a giffing the curse for us going
Speaker 1: to kids, it was like the curse part at first,
Speaker 1: like we was like, damn, bro Like, it can't be
Speaker 1: this hard. It can't be like it was extremely hard.
Speaker 1: Bro Like, it was just like literally both was like
Speaker 1: we out. It was never really like into like like
Speaker 1: crazy school, right. So when we got in there, we're like, Yo,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this. We're gonna take this u our
Speaker 1: course right here, and we're gonna and this is what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do to get through school. We're gonna change that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's gonna be our major.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do it. Was communications, we're gonna really lock
Speaker 1: into school. We walked into that, they was working this.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, change my major. Yeah I can't. But
Speaker 1: that's and that both together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, how how long we was that Florida til
Speaker 3: Billy caught us and off?
Speaker 2: About a month and a half.
Speaker 3: Month and a half Billy called in office.
Speaker 1: This is that?
Speaker 3: That's true story too. You want to tell a story.
Speaker 2: We literally get called in before practice by the start,
Speaker 2: so I think, you know, I mean like he gonna
Speaker 2: call us in there talking about hey, come with the business,
Speaker 2: y'all gotta leaders, blah blah blah. We sit down and
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not. We sit down as me and
Speaker 2: him right here and coach down across the desk. He
Speaker 2: looks at y'all two doing I look, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 2: I've been grinding. You did wrong the same thing I
Speaker 2: looked at you. What you what I've been. I've been
Speaker 2: in the weight room, I've been get my job. I'm
Speaker 2: grinding because I don't I hate. I hated school. I
Speaker 2: knew I wanted to he hates.
Speaker 3: I just wasn't good at it.
Speaker 2: So we sitting there, I was like, yo, dog, what
Speaker 2: he said if the season started that come play neither
Speaker 2: of you both? You gotta for now Ford And I
Speaker 2: was like, damn, I got a D.
Speaker 3: And right then I knew I had to start trying.
Speaker 3: I have been trying. I've been going to the study session,
Speaker 3: I have been doing my home. The man told me
Speaker 3: I ain't emailed right then, I said, I got a cheat.
Speaker 3: I gotta figure it out.
Speaker 2: But we feel, we feel what y'all feel hard.
Speaker 1: I'm losing a bunch of weight, like I love, I
Speaker 1: love stress, stressed out in school like it was our
Speaker 1: first year for sure, and then he was on that.
Speaker 1: So that's the only part too, is because it's both
Speaker 1: of us. If one did something, we both got blak,
Speaker 1: like we both really would like if I I'm talking
Speaker 1: about I would look at the stop the wrong way.
Speaker 1: I was telling to stop doing it. He get in trouble.
Speaker 1: You're like, man, listen, I'm not doing that running ran
Speaker 1: all up there and do all this dirty man, I
Speaker 1: ain't doing it. Run it till I run it till
Speaker 1: I hate. I stopped liking y'all running nice to be like, yo,
Speaker 1: we don't even know just touching.
Speaker 3: We used to run twenty and twenty twenty suicide in
Speaker 3: twenty minutes. We got thirty five seconds running. You got
Speaker 3: twenty five seconds. What are you talking about? Twenty suicide line?
Speaker 3: In the back and line it back. We're gonna do
Speaker 3: twintt man, I don't even think.
Speaker 1: Yeah you did, like you're a gangster.
Speaker 2: It's a lot. That was the one to beat Mike up.
Speaker 1: That was about quit.
Speaker 3: I can't do that. Never passed it about I was.
Speaker 3: I looked at like, I no.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie to you. You got that.
Speaker 3: I gave you everything, gave you everything, I got a
Speaker 3: bunch of times he looked at me like, bitch, you
Speaker 3: don't get your hand. I gave you everything. Sorry, I
Speaker 3: don't know, he might say, I did. I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I was. I was there like and then start kicking
Speaker 1: in when you at like five, you start seeing the
Speaker 1: number had five and I'm like, there's no way, and
Speaker 1: the number thirty like done. I started looking down the
Speaker 1: line like it's coming, like I just stop, literally stopped
Speaker 1: all the time with all that, that was like the
Speaker 1: best thing that ever happened to us. Like you know
Speaker 1: how you when I said the curse in the beginning,
Speaker 1: you see it, You're like, what the going on? And
Speaker 1: then you get on the other side of it, and
Speaker 1: like we was, we was about to transfer. So we
Speaker 1: went we went to office. We done like at what point?
Speaker 1: What point?
Speaker 2: Our freshman year after first after freshman year, so you
Speaker 2: got through all the your freshman year and they're like, yo,
Speaker 2: I'm out.
Speaker 1: Of here, and I actually all right, Like we didn't
Speaker 1: have bad years. It was me. So it was like, bro,
Speaker 1: now you know what, we're gonna go in here together.
Speaker 1: We're talking to each other. We're gonna go a here together.
Speaker 1: We're gonna tell him we're done, send us back home.
Speaker 1: We straight, we're gonna go back to school.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Went He looked at it. He started laughing, like, yo,
Speaker 1: ma at the I said, God worked like that? You
Speaker 1: know what that? What did y'all say? You said what
Speaker 1: you wanted? He could just do that? That's like he
Speaker 1: can't even like you can't. Ain't nothing we could do
Speaker 1: about that, like like just calling my mom like we
Speaker 1: said we want to leave, you know, He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you go about you walked it up, like man, we
Speaker 1: tell this, yeah, we want to so confident like like
Speaker 1: like twenty minutes later each other like that did not
Speaker 1: go as plans, Like yo, what just happened? So he
Speaker 1: didn't get y'all no doubt, just laughing man, like got there.
Speaker 1: We was we was in eligible coming in the college, right,
Speaker 1: so they did you know, they helped us get eligible
Speaker 1: a lot of there was a lot of behind it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: basically that's what he was like, we did all this, yet.
Speaker 3: Ain't ga.
Speaker 1: Was a gang all that. There's another reason why we
Speaker 1: thankful for him because if he just said go.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, who knows what would have happened,
Speaker 2: But gosh, damn it a little blessed we.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't have worked that hard. Because when he said no,
Speaker 1: that's when we had a conversation with each other, like man,
Speaker 1: we just go all right, well he said, we ain't
Speaker 1: going like you say not, let me know, so like
Speaker 1: that's just that's changed up. And even though put on
Speaker 1: twenty pounds that summer, like that changed our whole career.
Speaker 1: Like he was like, no, we called the strength of
Speaker 1: conditioning coach, Like yo, we and this bitch two times
Speaker 1: a day running sting. That's why I had nothing to
Speaker 1: do with the NBA. We never even thought about it.
Speaker 1: We were just talking about making it in Kansas, like
Speaker 1: we was like making he thought, hold up.
Speaker 2: So the NBA was never even when y'all when y'all
Speaker 2: mad and.
Speaker 3: Said fourteen, ain't worry about no basketball.
Speaker 2: No, I understand that. But what I'm saying, but when
Speaker 2: you're in Kansas, you're doing Kansas.
Speaker 1: We didn't even know like the magnitude of other Kansas
Speaker 1: like even going there. Really we were just that's that's
Speaker 1: literally the man. He was there too, And I didn't
Speaker 1: know who that was. I was like, all we know
Speaker 1: is what feeling well, Philly guy play will that's the
Speaker 1: person person we know.
Speaker 3: So when did the NBA become a reality to y'all?
Speaker 3: When did you be like, damn, we might might be
Speaker 3: a politic sophomore year. Our sophomore year, that's when it
Speaker 3: that's when it really clicked. Like he started having a
Speaker 3: whole lot of success. Like he was having success our
Speaker 3: freshman year and towards the end, but our sophomore year
Speaker 3: that's when it start going. He was a starter, and
Speaker 3: it was like, yo, they started to show you more
Speaker 3: draft boards, you know, the draft ward like because we
Speaker 3: ain't got no agents or nothing like that, Like we
Speaker 3: ain't talking about the NBA. We just moms in Kansas
Speaker 3: with us. We just living a life, like.
Speaker 2: Linna be one of the more gangsters in the world.
Speaker 2: Is that you guys go thirteen and fourteen in the draft.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that man, And that was even crazy how
Speaker 1: that because even with us like getting better and we
Speaker 1: knew we was going to go, it was like, all right,
Speaker 1: I was playing more, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: my name was stamped in there like for a while
Speaker 1: up talk about that. We've been talking about this all
Speaker 1: the time. Like I said it, I was leading the
Speaker 1: big twelve and rebounds, field goal presenters, blocks, three point
Speaker 1: like eight different things. Second team, I'm like, what the
Speaker 1: and then don't get no type of all American looks.
Speaker 1: I'm like, hold the up, Like all right, sophomore year,
Speaker 1: he went out every every camp that you can think of,
Speaker 1: all every camp.
Speaker 3: I was at the crib. Really take both, y'all. She
Speaker 3: was your fire.
Speaker 1: But I was cooking though, So it wasn't like I
Speaker 1: wasn't like already cooking. I'm looking for that. Almost more
Speaker 1: frustrated than that's never twins, Like because twins they put
Speaker 1: me as a representation. We got one of them up there,
Speaker 1: You're gonna represent both of them, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's another like gifting the curse when when I when
Speaker 1: I came out, they ain't had me getting drafted at all.
Speaker 2: So we gotta talk about this and this is fun.
Speaker 2: So you walk in the draft night, you still don't know. Obviously,
Speaker 2: you're probably you have a pretty good feel about where
Speaker 2: you're going.
Speaker 1: We kind of now. But by this time we know
Speaker 1: there that I wasn't. I didn't have no uh no workouts.
Speaker 3: Like wait a minute, So so when you but you
Speaker 3: wasn't on nobody.
Speaker 1: Draft, they end up inviting me to the combin. Ain't
Speaker 1: even had I went from doing all that to being
Speaker 1: in the top. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, can get away
Speaker 1: from Covin beating the ass the whole time in college
Speaker 1: that you're trying to act like it was just him.
Speaker 1: I was like, what the you? He loves.
Speaker 3: When you get your chance.
Speaker 1: Went to the combine and all of a sudden, they
Speaker 1: invited them to the green room combine comedy work as
Speaker 1: you do. They're like six. We worked out for the
Speaker 1: same teams. They worked out for the same team, the
Speaker 1: team that both of us were the only teams we
Speaker 1: worked out together for Rocks and Phoenix.
Speaker 3: It's a young fella from Miami right now that's going
Speaker 3: to a committed Kansas cold. As he jumped up a grade, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, went did O T one. He was at
Speaker 3: the same high school as my son. He was at
Speaker 3: Florida Christian coach coach old Son coaching. Joe Son was
Speaker 3: coaching at Florida Christian. Did one year at O T E,
Speaker 3: went to top one hundred camp. Not no, no, nobody's board,
Speaker 3: went the top one hundred camp. Killed that to walk
Speaker 3: that top teamer Kansas on the board.
Speaker 1: And had another year of college in high school and
Speaker 1: doing the high school for another year. I've seen him,
Speaker 1: so I was like, we were talking about him like
Speaker 1: gonna be a good kid. Let me ask you this question,
Speaker 1: and I apologize. I'm sure you've had it a million times,
Speaker 1: but I have to know you guys get drafted thirteen
Speaker 1: to fourteen. Is that the first time you ever played
Speaker 1: basketball on different teams? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Like apart, Yeah, how was that?
Speaker 3: It was?
Speaker 1: It was different in the beginning, but you know what,
Speaker 1: it was a lockout year. Yeah. Yeah, So we had
Speaker 1: six months to just like do us like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying so about it and it's like, all right,
Speaker 1: you can go to your team. We just maxed out
Speaker 1: like the way we was living. So and then I
Speaker 1: went to the G League too. I was a D
Speaker 1: League when I was Darryl Moore is stupid. I was
Speaker 1: just in Philly with this super I went to the
Speaker 1: G League and that, yeah, because I was just coming
Speaker 1: from Player of the Year and all this, and then
Speaker 1: I'm watching him switching from Okay, I'm in the king
Speaker 1: now he making the freshman all started game and all
Speaker 1: that crazy. I'm not even playing no games. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you reverse, there's one time when we can. I come
Speaker 1: to Houston match up for the first time. They sent
Speaker 1: him to the.
Speaker 3: No I'm about to about to match up was about
Speaker 3: five turnaround jumpers right there.
Speaker 1: I was like, God, damn, you keep making this. I
Speaker 1: was bad than the bitch, so it wasn't really that bad.
Speaker 3: That was you.
Speaker 2: I came.
Speaker 1: I came after that.
Speaker 3: You hit them five turn around jumpers.
Speaker 1: In my.
Speaker 3: Remember that just another you always remember cookies, got the
Speaker 3: best of you did. When one is down and the
Speaker 3: other ones up, y'all obviously that's what keep the other
Speaker 3: one up. Yeah, you're keeping the other one up. I
Speaker 3: can watch him, Yeah, celebrate his success, living through him
Speaker 3: and he living through you, and y'all got each other. Okay,
Speaker 3: that is always we always like the way the work
Speaker 3: ethic works is like you know that's going to change
Speaker 3: if you continue to push it, push that, keep pushing
Speaker 3: and keep pushing that.
Speaker 1: Listen, it don't matter. It don't matter like what they
Speaker 1: what box they put you, and if you push that
Speaker 1: to the limit, you just got to identify what you're
Speaker 1: not supposed to be. That's sure.
Speaker 3: But I'm happy you said that. It don't matter what
Speaker 3: box they put you in. They don't put all us in.
Speaker 3: At some point, we've all been putting the box. At
Speaker 3: some point, we've all been put in a box and
Speaker 3: we had to make it a choice. Not except being
Speaker 3: put in that box. They trying. We all been putting that.
Speaker 3: It's up to you at home. Do you want to
Speaker 3: allow them to put you in that box?
Speaker 1: It's staying that much?
Speaker 3: Do you want to get out?
Speaker 1: That's why I be important for like that's in the league, man,
Speaker 1: pretty man. I had I had Marcus Canby and I
Speaker 1: had a couple other ones. But like nobody was telling
Speaker 1: me like I was doing that wrong. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I just was doing it.
Speaker 2: I used I used to say that. I used to
Speaker 2: say that when I was obviously it's easier when you're
Speaker 2: thirty seven. You're still playing and you're doing it. But like,
Speaker 2: I think the league misunderstood like how important real vets are.
Speaker 2: But now you got it's it's it's a fine line.
Speaker 2: So when they throw the back at you gotta be
Speaker 2: you know, combat them. But like, because some of these
Speaker 2: vets aren't real vets. Some of these bets at what
Speaker 2: so so and ie all my kids obviously on this
Speaker 2: agency side, like they be careful who you surround yourself with.
Speaker 2: They're gonna act like they're going to bring in some
Speaker 2: deep waters. They can swim, they've been doing it, they
Speaker 2: know exactly. But the real vets, man, are the biggest
Speaker 2: things these teams are missing. I used to tell these man,
Speaker 2: if you're trying to tell me an eighteen nineten year, ol, kids,
Speaker 2: is your twelve thirteen, fourteen? He's not playing anyways, Get
Speaker 2: someone here that's gonna show up for practice everyd show
Speaker 2: these guys.
Speaker 1: How to work.
Speaker 2: Talk to him as a real dude, like, yo, you right,
Speaker 2: But the problem is is like there's other vets out there,
Speaker 2: and y'all know who y'all are for everybody.
Speaker 1: Else exactly don't make sense. It don't make no sense.
Speaker 2: You get the real ones in there though, and I'm
Speaker 2: telling you they're more important, but you ded to me.
Speaker 2: But then it was more important that team than the
Speaker 2: seventh man on.
Speaker 1: That rock, surely, But why is why?
Speaker 3: Why won't because now we're starting to see the success,
Speaker 3: started to seeing what JJ was able to do. So
Speaker 3: to see how Indiana all the success they had. Everybody
Speaker 3: they kept talking about what James Johnson, But I remember
Speaker 3: that exactly.
Speaker 1: I was able to learn how to do it, like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like when you somebody, some
Speaker 1: of these guys still in position to be able to
Speaker 1: play right, and then they even when you're thirty five,
Speaker 1: you know, we feel like we better when we got
Speaker 1: old better, like because we know the game, we don't
Speaker 1: even do as much because I'm gonna get there and
Speaker 1: now you know, you know how we go. So some
Speaker 1: guys can't put that to the side, right, Like I
Speaker 1: can't put like my pride to the side. So I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna like empowered this young to get better saying
Speaker 1: he was talking about that hate like that that happens, right,
Speaker 1: So now they looking at that like you ain't doing
Speaker 1: it anyway, like we'd rather take a young player that
Speaker 1: the minimum is two point one or two point two
Speaker 1: the man. Why would we do that anyway? You ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lose half Butler young is on the bench, not cheering.
Speaker 1: The y is not even like that. They can't pass
Speaker 1: the message? How about that can't pass the message? But
Speaker 1: it's not grown men no more? You ain't. You ain't.
Speaker 3: You're not around a bunch of hungry muffins. If the
Speaker 3: coach you gotta be hold accountable and you.
Speaker 1: Got should never get to should never did that last
Speaker 1: seat even with the n b P a right for us,
Speaker 1: for us to have that CBA as bad as we did. Right,
Speaker 1: it should be. It should be and I talked to
Speaker 1: Iggy about it. It should be a designated seat for
Speaker 1: a veteran player on every We talked about it, and
Speaker 1: we talked about two years that shouldn't go against nothing.
Speaker 1: That should be able to happen because we helping the
Speaker 1: lead just like that, two years working for making anywhere
Speaker 1: in the world, anywhere else in the world. You've been
Speaker 1: working for twenty fifteen plus years. Why when you want
Speaker 1: to keep him around? You know where the idea came from.
Speaker 3: Raley told me that to a couple of years A
Speaker 3: real thing saying that, bro, because he was talking about
Speaker 3: my situation. He's like, Yo, it should be a spot
Speaker 3: on every NBA team for a guy like you that don't.
Speaker 2: We had those issues though, a lot of those bets,
Speaker 2: and we'll touch on it, like a lot of those bets.
Speaker 2: So like, because what you said, yeah thirty five, we're
Speaker 2: going there, we still bust ass in practice. Separating that though,
Speaker 2: and why you're not playing. They just appreciate the fact,
Speaker 2: like at the end of the day, man, and that's
Speaker 2: why we talk about it, like play as long as
Speaker 2: you can in this league because there is nothing better
Speaker 2: than it. One and two, you ain't going to ever
Speaker 2: have a life like.
Speaker 1: That ever again.
Speaker 2: And that competition you can't. You can't duplicate ever in life.
Speaker 2: But the problem is, like, yeah, you show up on
Speaker 2: Thursday in practice and you're busting that. Dude's a You're like, damn,
Speaker 2: why I playing right for us? As real bets, you
Speaker 2: understand it. It's called when team ready for me? Right now,
Speaker 2: this team is doing trying to do this. We're not
Speaker 2: here yet. If we were here on championship contenders, yes,
Speaker 2: that's where the bets become.
Speaker 1: Huge fall out the league because of that. But you
Speaker 1: know when we came in early early in our career, right,
Speaker 1: it was like the older the older players like we
Speaker 1: ready to stop. That's when y'all play. Y'all ain't playing
Speaker 1: until we ready to shop, ain't It ain't just like
Speaker 1: if we busting y'all ass ye, the best players is
Speaker 1: gonna play. But the older players is like, we better
Speaker 1: than y'all. Young fella, I got about two more years left,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, Let me get my
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes a game, no matter how it goes. Nowadays,
Speaker 1: it's like it don't matter how good you actually are.
Speaker 1: Still like it don't matter once you get to a
Speaker 1: certain name, it don't even matter about that.
Speaker 2: Here's here's the biggest issue though, Like the championship teams
Speaker 2: are the smart ones to bring the bets on. The
Speaker 2: bad teams are the ones that need the best most
Speaker 2: because you're in the lottery every year and you're let
Speaker 2: these these talented because if you're if you're getting a
Speaker 2: lottery pick. Yes, there's some misses, but most of the
Speaker 2: thing is just if they're walking into a situation and
Speaker 2: structure that there's not grooming them, and so that's where
Speaker 2: the vet needs and the most like, yo, all right,
Speaker 2: you coming to nine thirty tomorrow now. I'll never forget
Speaker 2: when I was in when I was in Denver my
Speaker 2: last couple of years, I ain't gonna mention the kid's name,
Speaker 2: but the ownership came to me said hey, man, we
Speaker 2: need to work on those kids, jump about or and
Speaker 2: it just worked. Just word, it's all right, cool, hit
Speaker 2: them up. I'll be there tomorrow a nine o'clock. It
Speaker 2: was at nine fifteen. Cool with that, though, I'm like,
Speaker 2: all right, cool, listen, young fella. I'm thirty eight. I
Speaker 2: don't really need it. I'll be here tomorrow. Nine shows
Speaker 2: up at nine thirty.
Speaker 1: I said to them.
Speaker 2: The last time I said, yo, young fella, listened to me, man,
Speaker 2: just so you know, I got yeah, one more again,
Speaker 2: I'll be here tomorrow. Nine showed up a nine forty five.
Speaker 2: I said, he got later and later. Every time I
Speaker 2: had a boss man, I said, hey, this is ain't it?
Speaker 2: And this was a lottery pick now.
Speaker 3: And but not the league I know he's talking about.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of that. There's a lot of that
Speaker 1: going on. But that's why that's why in the league
Speaker 1: they got to separate it, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: and understand who's good for who? Like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like they so concerned about this little bit
Speaker 1: of money, but they only concerned about it with the minimums.
Speaker 1: The only thing that happened in the CBA is the
Speaker 1: richest richest rich and the mid turn push them all down.
Speaker 1: Now everybody looking for a spot is like what.
Speaker 3: They don't understand up top is they need every single
Speaker 3: locker room. It's one you can't get rid of, can't
Speaker 3: get rid of and every every single locker room. Most
Speaker 3: of the time it's one of us, but it ain't
Speaker 3: want to it ain't most of the time. It ain't
Speaker 3: gonna be your superstuff. Yeah, you can't get rid of
Speaker 3: him because what he doing the basketball court, But that's much.
Speaker 3: It's most likely he's not the guy that's gonna keep
Speaker 3: you together and the guystanding.
Speaker 1: That the one guy.
Speaker 3: It's one you upstairs need to start identifying that one
Speaker 3: that keeps your locker room together. And the average is
Speaker 3: one guy in the locker room. And all the players
Speaker 3: know it and all the coaches know it. You don't
Speaker 3: know it's a real thing that it's one guy in
Speaker 3: every locker room that everybody in that locker room. You
Speaker 3: know you can't lose you up there, continue to lose
Speaker 3: that person everybody the way I landed. It ain't me,
Speaker 3: but I see it all the time. You don't understand
Speaker 3: the power brotherhood. It's one every locker room you cannot lose.
Speaker 3: You keep thinking it's your.
Speaker 1: Best player, best player. It ain't him, dum, best players
Speaker 1: is not the leaders like I don't think that, like
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know guys like you can. So
Speaker 1: they can tell us when they upset and they're not
Speaker 1: feeling who you think they they're telling us.
Speaker 2: Talking them.
Speaker 1: No, chill, chill, I got them all. You just worry
Speaker 1: about basketball. I got them a different coming from me,
Speaker 1: and you didn't coming from a coach exactly. And nowadays
Speaker 1: the coaches can't even they can't even connect with the
Speaker 1: younger players.
Speaker 3: The players are getting younger and the coaches getting over.
Speaker 1: He's flipping them out so much like whose the team
Speaker 1: and your team is like even on the front benches,
Speaker 1: new guys there every year as well. I'm watching it.
Speaker 1: I'm watching the six hours with the sixers, bro. They
Speaker 1: switched the whole team out. Yeah, I'm like, I know,
Speaker 1: I keep saying this. I'm like, but you're trying to
Speaker 1: win a championship.
Speaker 3: It's no way.
Speaker 1: How can the first year team where you got your
Speaker 1: go to do from l A Toronto and they just
Speaker 1: gonna they're just gonna mess You're gonna you're gonna try
Speaker 1: to win the champions Hell no, like you gotta y'all
Speaker 1: gotta learn how to keep basketball basketball. It's so much
Speaker 1: more politics. The money gotta match now. It's like it's
Speaker 1: so much money. What are we trying to match up to?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's like, like you bringing
Speaker 1: the quality of the game down, Like that's what's really happening.
Speaker 2: Quality game is not there is not watching on the
Speaker 2: on the flip side of it, though, like these dudes
Speaker 2: keep getting better and better too, if they just would
Speaker 2: organizing structure.
Speaker 1: I got a court, you got your course, superstar young guys.
Speaker 1: That's like taking.
Speaker 2: Bigger, fast, stronger. It's unbelievable. And by the way, we
Speaker 2: can say that finals, those dudes were competing, bro, they
Speaker 2: were dogging.
Speaker 1: The talent, talent, the youngest young fellas. Like watching them,
Speaker 1: I'm all for it, Like they got the ball, it's
Speaker 1: no question. But they need.
Speaker 5: Like us that care to want them to be their
Speaker 5: best version. I want you to be your best version.
Speaker 5: I want to sit down the league right now, is
Speaker 5: you keep you said ten years with Joe and you
Speaker 5: keep talking about it. I wish I just had a
Speaker 5: year or two I was there. I love to be
Speaker 5: with the heat. Trust me, I'm a Heat great and
Speaker 5: that's that's my home. But just on the other side
Speaker 5: watching them be and wishing and seeing what he could be.
Speaker 5: I just wish I had a year or two.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I could have helped, but God
Speaker 3: damn it, you the help asking there because I was there.
Speaker 3: One thing we ain't gonna do is we ain't. You're
Speaker 3: gonna have to kill me. I'm gonna kill you. And
Speaker 3: something don't change.
Speaker 1: I think because they drafted and what it is, they
Speaker 1: drafted and allow him to grow so much that he
Speaker 1: got so much control. So now like certain that he's
Speaker 1: doing I'm not gonna speaking in the locker room, but
Speaker 1: like certain that he'd be doing you don't see in
Speaker 1: the league.
Speaker 3: I just wish becauld I see everybody that you know
Speaker 3: what that could be.
Speaker 1: I came in the league, Like I came to Philly
Speaker 1: and he did something. I was like, I never seen that,
Speaker 1: Like I hadn't been on the team where all type
Speaker 1: and it wasn't It wasn't like some crazy, but in
Speaker 1: my mind as the guy, it was crazy because just
Speaker 1: how people could be looking at.
Speaker 3: It, like and it's just us being O G seeing
Speaker 3: how talented he is and great bro, No, he's just
Speaker 3: I just want to see that. I want to see
Speaker 3: the best version of Joel andb I want to see
Speaker 3: that in shape, healthy best version.
Speaker 1: If he was in shape, he might like right there
Speaker 1: with how can he be the both the most talented
Speaker 1: big wanted to be healthy? Joke is able to do.
Speaker 3: But if that man was in shape and healthy and
Speaker 3: took care his body, taking joy what you're saying it
Speaker 3: was in shape, it took care his body, it wouldn't
Speaker 3: be a conversation.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, we say if.
Speaker 1: On that little time I was with Philly Dog, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie he was having I always remember telling
Speaker 1: them home and I'm like, just watch the game. No
Speaker 1: doubt Joe was gonna have twenty and fifteen by halftime, Looten,
Speaker 1: he gonna limp down the court and give it to you.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about I was afraid though I've never even
Speaker 1: seen nobody be like fair for of a player. He
Speaker 1: coming in a big muffut. They didn't want no recording.
Speaker 2: Really, he really is more frustrated than anything. In my opinion,
Speaker 2: I love.
Speaker 3: It just like us wish guys we can have impact
Speaker 3: on that because you know what that could look like.
Speaker 2: Guys like him know like that make the game look
Speaker 2: so simple. It's frustrating. Rite the same thing. Joker does
Speaker 2: the same thing, because.
Speaker 3: It's hard to help him understand after you have twenty
Speaker 3: and fifteen in the first half that you didn't play good.
Speaker 3: It's hard because he's gonna look at the status like
Speaker 3: I did. I had to deal with that with Hassan Whiteside.
Speaker 3: They have a triple double with blocks, and that is
Speaker 3: hard for me to explain the white you didn't do
Speaker 3: what we needed you to do. Look at the number.
Speaker 3: That's not it's not about the numbers. How many times
Speaker 3: did you roll to the basket like you do that
Speaker 3: empty status? You know what I'm saying. So it's not
Speaker 3: a knock on them, but it's hard to get him
Speaker 3: to understand when they look at the statsinator.
Speaker 2: I feel it, and be's an impossible cover, absolutely possible cover.
Speaker 1: Bro, and he do. That's why it's more impossible. I
Speaker 1: remember he came here one time. He didn't even shooting layups,
Speaker 1: like he's not even warming up for the game, stepping
Speaker 1: like I got who in the menu. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't need no morem up Jazz step JB for
Speaker 1: the game two Jack step jab forty Ready to get
Speaker 1: him to understand he got bad like you drop forty twenty.
Speaker 2: That's like me on the golf course.
Speaker 1: I'm ready. I'm like, I ain't never seen nothing. You know,
Speaker 1: you go to different teams. I've been on eight teams,
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, you was on one,
Speaker 1: so I got to see so many organizations like this.
Speaker 1: By the way, it's amazing when you get done with
Speaker 1: it too and you you look back, it's like now
Speaker 1: now on this side of things, like damn, I don't
Speaker 1: even want to deal with that team, but I've seen
Speaker 1: them over there and I ain't gonna watch it there.
Speaker 1: It's there's glaring differences when you go to real organizations.
Speaker 1: They just organization glaring different on TV, like yeah, they
Speaker 1: spend so much money on the medical. I was like,
Speaker 1: who told you that? You get that from likes? Is
Speaker 1: different some things. Don't give us about medical, don't spend
Speaker 1: a dime on it. Like if you smart, you got
Speaker 1: money and leave to get your own god damn medical right.
Speaker 2: And actually, one hundred percent what you're saying, especially the
Speaker 2: really good ones, you should always do it because of
Speaker 2: the day they're may give me so much money, Like,
Speaker 2: don't let them be a part of that.
Speaker 1: Yes, your recovery.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't let them be a part of that, because
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, once you once you
Speaker 2: asked for that, now they're in your life because guess
Speaker 2: what that guy worked for. Guess what he's gonna say
Speaker 2: every time, no.
Speaker 1: Matter what the situations like that, I'm like, bro, I
Speaker 1: can't play something like yeah, they're telling him, Like I
Speaker 1: had a situation where I was asking to do he
Speaker 1: was doing a little on me and I was asking
Speaker 1: him like, yo, you think I could play? And then
Speaker 1: he goes back and tell him he gonna come back
Speaker 1: and say he can't play. Of course, I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say nothing like then to make me now,
Speaker 1: I ain't talking him to him for the rest of
Speaker 1: the year.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Now he looking at me like,
Speaker 3: what happened?
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 3: I'm happy you brought it up though, because we talk
Speaker 3: about that. We talked about the TV and inside of
Speaker 3: saying oh he did this, like how y'all enjoying the
Speaker 3: TV side of things now being being an athlete and
Speaker 3: being out there playing the game and actually having an opinion,
Speaker 3: being able to we do we.
Speaker 1: Literally do daily, Me and my homies, me and him,
Speaker 1: we do this. Yeah, we talk on the recordar like yeah.
Speaker 1: And the thing to help us is like we we
Speaker 1: ain't go up there trying to be all suited and
Speaker 1: suited tie and all buttoned up. We're going up there
Speaker 1: like us. And then once you see that, they accept that.
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, well now I could loosen up
Speaker 1: my seat a little bit. I can sit back and
Speaker 1: talk like I want to talk, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that's the easy part for us. We know the game,
Speaker 1: been around the game forever, Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We just talking back.
Speaker 3: But you gotta get yourself because everybody can't translate, you know, SA.
Speaker 3: We know it, and a lot of people know how
Speaker 3: y'all translated how we translated. Can't get on TV. You
Speaker 3: gotta be able to plan the common.
Speaker 1: Man at home understand. That's a gift for us to
Speaker 1: be sure. You gotta be tapped in for real, bro,
Speaker 1: like you can be tapped into like older. So we
Speaker 1: got older soldiers and we tapped into the youth, so
Speaker 1: we know all the lingo like well my you yeah,
Speaker 1: but just like what's going on. You gotta practice like
Speaker 1: you can't. You know what I mean, I did it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I'm gonna make sure I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: myself through different drills so I won't say certain things
Speaker 1: or you know, we got our own ling up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you'd be saying, yeah, all right, yeah, I think the word.
Speaker 1: That's my biggest to let the slip. I put the
Speaker 1: time clock. Make sure you don't say that I'm calling
Speaker 1: my home homi yo. Okay, make sure you eliminate this.
Speaker 1: That's my big How hard it is, because it really
Speaker 1: is hard. But it's fun though, because now you know
Speaker 1: I me yourself, You're trying a lot better. You can
Speaker 1: hear yourself speaking. You know what I'm saying, and you
Speaker 1: know we hoopers. Well, you know what I mean in
Speaker 1: front of a camera and talking, especially when you think
Speaker 1: about like like I like Stephen a bro like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I know everybody got different like
Speaker 1: depends on like I like it. I like dude, like
Speaker 1: good dude, job like you know what I mean, cut
Speaker 1: it on when you're on TV that off the court
Speaker 1: really good dude, you know what I'm saying, Like he
Speaker 1: can he can understand if you don't know what you're
Speaker 1: talking about.
Speaker 3: That yeah, yeah, like when you look, he's gonna get
Speaker 3: up there.
Speaker 1: Like athletes don't go up there because if you go
Speaker 1: up there and you start talking something, you looking crazy
Speaker 1: looking back. And I think that's what stuck with us
Speaker 1: because we was ready, Like I'm like, I know, I
Speaker 1: know the game, so you're not about to say nothing that.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna stop and say that's not right? Who
Speaker 1: told you that? Like what you say? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying? He come right back. So it's fun man,
Speaker 1: Like I really didn't think I was gonna like it. Man,
Speaker 1: my guy he's sitting over there behind his name only
Speaker 1: he told me like we was chilling there. He was like, bro,
Speaker 1: I think that you should try to like start speaking,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, start like doing like little
Speaker 1: on TV or whatever. And I started with like Yahoo
Speaker 1: and I did I did that double? Yeah, the n
Speaker 1: C double, A torn man and talking about college basketball
Speaker 1: and who did a couple of podcasts and it was like, man,
Speaker 1: it started to stick. He was playing. I just dragged
Speaker 1: him on it, like, bro, you want to be on here,
Speaker 1: come on, let's do it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: They need that, the fans that meet the people, they
Speaker 3: need that. The inside the locker rooms, what the players thinking,
Speaker 3: how they feel, what the coach saying to him, what
Speaker 3: was supposed to happen on that plate, Like that's that
Speaker 3: that's the insight. That's that we had to make it special, right,
Speaker 3: and that's what people want to see. How it feels
Speaker 3: like to be inside the locker room right now, what
Speaker 3: they thinking being down three to one in this series,
Speaker 3: what the coach thinking, what's the game plan for? That's
Speaker 3: the still knock on the guys that are doing it
Speaker 3: that didn't play. But that's that's our super power. That's
Speaker 3: what we got that you ain't got. That's ours. You
Speaker 3: can't speak on.
Speaker 1: You never been. We're not making up now, No, Like
Speaker 1: I'm not about to sit here like I had to
Speaker 1: take when I was talking about the okayc when everybody
Speaker 1: was like, yo, why you don't like okay see, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, just from my my vision of
Speaker 1: the game is like they're really young, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But I had to take it back as
Speaker 1: we going and watching them playing, I'm like, well, they're young,
Speaker 1: but they understand though, like and that's the difference, Like
Speaker 1: they're like mature young guys, which you don't have that
Speaker 1: much in this league because everybody trying to get paid,
Speaker 1: they jocking for position. And then when I started seeing it,
Speaker 1: like oh no, they know they together, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And then the matchups, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But it was refreshing to see young guys actually like
Speaker 1: buy into like the hoops side like that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And that's the game always. But we
Speaker 1: do do I gotta say this, we do do like
Speaker 1: sports bet, not on NBA, but like other sports. Right,
Speaker 1: So that's another way how we got it. Kind of
Speaker 1: got into it. Like one of the my homie really
Speaker 1: good yeah up toun In one of my homies is like,
Speaker 1: well we actually sports best. So we go in the
Speaker 1: crib By our day, we chopping it up about baseball, right,
Speaker 1: so he like, Bro, we might as well like start
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like start putting picks. I
Speaker 1: was like telling people what we're doing and then a
Speaker 1: lad into starting twins and wins. When we're talking about
Speaker 1: like baseball, football, talk about all that just makes we
Speaker 1: tapped them all college football in the NFL, college basketball,
Speaker 1: like we do all that. We don't just talking like NBA.
Speaker 1: Is I for us like we college basketball, NFL like
Speaker 1: I mean, but we know the game so much. I
Speaker 1: don't even got to watch the game. If I'm watching
Speaker 1: the NBA, you know what I'm saying. I can look
Speaker 1: at on the team. Yeah, he's selfish. They're gonna kick
Speaker 1: his ass. He's gonna be the reason why they lose
Speaker 1: this game. And that's what I'm going to talk about,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I watched the game, Yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly what I thought that was gonna happen. Happen. That's
Speaker 1: my point right there.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, talking reaching out and like
Speaker 3: touching all different sports because for me, as much as
Speaker 3: I love basketball and talk basketball, there's I gotta urge
Speaker 3: to talk football, man, because I love because I know
Speaker 3: the game, bro discourage, I know, I know running motion.
Speaker 1: I know football. They try to keep us away from
Speaker 1: that man, so they open the door and see us
Speaker 1: do it, They're gonna be like, god damn over there
Speaker 1: talking football, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And I had a chance to go on Pat McAfee
Speaker 3: and we started talking about a little football and just
Speaker 3: I just came off. I was like, I want to.
Speaker 1: I want to, you know any thing about talking football
Speaker 1: is that like I love the Eagles so much that
Speaker 1: I say him up, I don't really mean he not
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You have to say that
Speaker 1: like man, like I said very Young, I said, I
Speaker 1: ain't say noting. But I was talking about Holland Burt
Speaker 1: and Percast said, well what about Trey Young? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, were you pass the ball? Is better than Hollerbert?
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking about it. I ain't really even mean
Speaker 1: to say that. He just threw Trey Young in my
Speaker 1: vision while I'm talking about somebody else and it maybe
Speaker 1: like the bird his game and I look at the
Speaker 1: stats talking about but he tried to like he tried
Speaker 1: to like you know what I mean, kind of threw
Speaker 1: it in a way. But at football, you say that
Speaker 1: though you might like because Cowboys. I hate the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Bro like the Cowboys, So he might say that's Prescott.
Speaker 3: Hit that argument yesterday because he talked about my Dolphins.
Speaker 3: The Dolphin the Cheeks, Yeah, said I want to I
Speaker 3: want to feel that we're good until they get.
Speaker 1: Cold, Homie back then good until they get cold. Were
Speaker 1: good until they get cold.
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, I want to be good back the Cheeks.
Speaker 1: Yes, you got in South Dakota.
Speaker 2: I'm a Viking fan, the Vikings, but that ain't South.
Speaker 2: The coach. If I'm gonna claim somebody, that's not gonna
Speaker 2: be the Vikings, we ain't want. I'm just telling you,
Speaker 2: I'm claiming the Vikings. That's what I'm telling you that.
Speaker 2: If I'm gonna ride on something, man, I'm a cheese fan,
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that. I'm a Vikings fan.
Speaker 1: We got J. J.
Speaker 2: McCarthy. We got the best wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Play last year. Don't say his name. I don't know
Speaker 1: what you what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I don't want to kept saying Donald J.
Speaker 2: I like what I like what we're doing. In fact,
Speaker 2: what I thought we should have done. Honest to God,
Speaker 2: is let jaj said, one more year, I thought should
Speaker 2: run Aaron Rodgers in one year. We're close being really good.
Speaker 3: Jefferson Aaron Williams. I don't know what else you got, Addison.
Speaker 3: Addison's justin Jefferson Aaron Williams.
Speaker 2: And and what's our tight end the old country. That's why, dude,
Speaker 2: that came from our defense, got our offensive line back
Speaker 2: to health so much.
Speaker 3: What do see now we're talking football to that now
Speaker 3: we're about about to start were about to start running
Speaker 3: right now now.
Speaker 1: When I'm not winning nothing while he's the quarter went healthy,
Speaker 1: win healthy, not working in the place I do they go.
Speaker 1: You gotta have healthy years, keep it, keeping it a hundred.
Speaker 3: As a Dolphin fan, I understand, I understand how we
Speaker 3: play the game. No, I get what you say. That
Speaker 3: diepen dot like you know, running a man in motion
Speaker 3: to see if they had man is o and then
Speaker 3: when you figured out the ball, come out your hand
Speaker 3: in two seconds and then you're waiting for the dude.
Speaker 3: Get y'alls have to catch. Like I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I do get it. That's the place that's the person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but so I do.
Speaker 3: I do believe that we need to figure out a
Speaker 3: way to get We need to figure out a way
Speaker 3: to get more more physical, more physical, y'alls. Like everything,
Speaker 3: I gotta be trickery everything. You gotta be running in
Speaker 3: in motion and he catched that bitch on the run.
Speaker 3: That ain't work all the time. Sometimes you got to
Speaker 3: just be a line of mon het your ass in
Speaker 3: the mouth and get down here.
Speaker 2: Coat you'all be fourth and one do a double reverse
Speaker 2: flee fl.
Speaker 3: You know what I was like, That's what I said,
Speaker 3: all right till I've never seen it like one, but
Speaker 3: you feeling thee.
Speaker 1: Cry?
Speaker 3: You feelings different football field, Eagles want the super Bowl
Speaker 3: and wan that cry.
Speaker 2: It was like cried.
Speaker 3: I'm like you did.
Speaker 2: A lot of I have have I have to ask
Speaker 2: how ya how y'all?
Speaker 1: Basically everything in life but football, and we'll try to
Speaker 1: keep try to keep separate out the sports.
Speaker 2: I mean, I was, Eagles is nuts up.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that's rap.
Speaker 1: It's like the next like uh faces and Pacers and fans, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I fans. Chuck was Chuck was in Philly man around
Speaker 1: that a Chuck was everything city like he did like
Speaker 1: he could walk and do anything in the city. Everybody
Speaker 1: loves Bubble Chuck Man. That man was so real good.
Speaker 1: He was like that, I always tell the story, and
Speaker 1: we told it on I just was talking about it.
Speaker 1: We told it on a million dollars a games like
Speaker 1: when we when we were younger and we was like
Speaker 1: fake playing basketball, fake playing au We used to tag,
Speaker 1: you know, tagging it like get the buckets and be
Speaker 1: like in the middle of the street the kids with
Speaker 1: the signs like can you donate to you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, he donate our team to go the Florida Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was really going when they do that. Man saying
Speaker 1: that play might look like the play having who you
Speaker 1: play for? Uh, definitely was going. But we guess like
Speaker 1: if the trip was three hundred, we're making fifty. You
Speaker 1: already know through that I was making through the trip, trip,
Speaker 1: the crib, everything bringing it back in the house. And
Speaker 1: the reason I'm saying is because we used to always
Speaker 1: see a. I always he's always looking in the bucket,
Speaker 1: really always all the time. He didn't even know we
Speaker 1: never we never even told him see him all the time.
Speaker 1: We did real like that.
Speaker 2: He always been a real one.
Speaker 1: Buckets the city. It just seemed like, Yo, you don't
Speaker 1: even know how you changed lives, like just seeing it
Speaker 1: and like lidally and then going down to Fridays and
Speaker 1: turning that bitch up to the man. He said he
Speaker 1: used to have Fridays going crazy, Friday going going, and
Speaker 1: we knew that, like everybody knew that Chuck was around everybody.
Speaker 1: Everybody's having a good time. It was crazy in the
Speaker 1: city man all the time. Bro, no lives. I want
Speaker 1: you to ask that that what the Jokers doing? The
Speaker 1: smooth so he could speak on he don't never really
Speaker 1: speak on that question, which one say. I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean it said you speak on the Jokers and you
Speaker 1: wrap it up a lot of things, expects you to
Speaker 1: come back and continue. No, I mean did heut me
Speaker 1: up for the time being? You was there, you up
Speaker 1: for the time being, But I never really got the
Speaker 1: opportunity to play again, like you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Once that ended, I ain't gonna talk because O g
Speaker 1: right here, I know it's Miami, is you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying? Over there? You feel they me over there
Speaker 1: because they bade me work so hard to get back
Speaker 1: when they knowing like it was an old misconception of
Speaker 1: like how the injury really went right like it was.
Speaker 1: It was like a two week injury. I got cleared
Speaker 1: in two weeks. But they made it seem because Miami
Speaker 1: wouldn't allow me back on the court, that I was
Speaker 1: injured for six months. I was. I was back. It
Speaker 1: was whiplash. I literally got whiplashing and was right back.
Speaker 1: O G was there. I was practicing on the regular.
Speaker 1: I practiced for six months and was working out. But yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, so that so that was the mis That
Speaker 1: was a misconception of I couldn't play because Miami wasn't
Speaker 1: They didn't really want me to get back on the court,
Speaker 1: like they were just basically like they wrote me off,
Speaker 1: like no, you can't, We're not allowing you back on
Speaker 1: the court with this injury. And obviously I paid four
Speaker 1: more years after that and I'm still playing now. So
Speaker 1: it wasn't like you, yeah, you couldn't play. I just
Speaker 1: went to another team and played a little bit, and
Speaker 1: then after that I went to Dallas. It was like
Speaker 1: I was that year and then I went to Brooklyn
Speaker 1: when Katie and Kyrie was there and we was cooking.
Speaker 1: I was playing there, but you know, all that happened
Speaker 1: so overshadowed that I went to Dallas and I had
Speaker 1: that ended the bench role since then, just don't give
Speaker 1: your teams just don't get your opportunity. You just like
Speaker 1: you know, look, you gotta jump into that role. I
Speaker 1: ain't about have been here bitching about not playing. Look listen, man,
Speaker 1: y all want me to play. And one thing about dollars.
Speaker 1: You know with Nico and j Kid, they up front
Speaker 1: always like so you ain't in there, Like I don't
Speaker 1: know what that's all you want? Right, That's why that's there,
Speaker 1: Like I'll put everybody over there because they was like that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I asked a question Nico,
Speaker 1: like you coming in to be coming to be ended
Speaker 1: the bitch veteran, Like we're gonna play sometimes, but we
Speaker 1: ain't looking at you to play. So I don't know.
Speaker 2: Guess what that does. It doesn't get your bitch when
Speaker 2: you're like that in.
Speaker 1: Your mind's like I ain't about to be going to
Speaker 1: went to the finals.
Speaker 3: You just know it was just a bigger part of
Speaker 3: anybody else. You was just a big everybody in the
Speaker 3: locker room know that. Like I said as well. But
Speaker 3: locker room that you can't lose. Sometimes you got to
Speaker 3: accept that. Like like fans like players, like expect fans
Speaker 3: expect you to be able to play. Like sometimes it
Speaker 3: ain't about the basketball. They don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3: Like like like you said, like you said to Mike,
Speaker 3: like we and you in practice cooking these on the regular,
Speaker 3: like you my little like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But to the to the outside world, when you don't play,
Speaker 3: they think you can't play. It's like, no, it's not that.
Speaker 3: It's like they don't want me to play, Like but
Speaker 3: I might have been sitting here power it's crazy. But
Speaker 3: outside where they think you can't play. My last game,
Speaker 3: you know what you know because my kids do this.
Speaker 3: I don't even do this talk about y'all get in
Speaker 3: the sports bad all My kids bet on me. My
Speaker 3: last game had me to score three and a half points.
Speaker 2: And the old g's out right.
Speaker 3: I just sit over here smoking cigarettes for the last
Speaker 3: four years.
Speaker 1: Three and a half got the game. My kids hit.
Speaker 3: My kids hit even though they did it afterwards, you
Speaker 3: got us paid.
Speaker 1: That's what you're talking. He said, it had you scoring
Speaker 1: three and a half points.
Speaker 3: To night, I don't need to worry about the kids
Speaker 3: gambling because I don't even condone that that was the
Speaker 3: second leg.
Speaker 1: Twins win three and a half.
Speaker 3: I said, they said three and a half.
Speaker 1: This is.
Speaker 3: Most different half points?
Speaker 1: Know not that good.
Speaker 3: I know that to your point, they think because we.
Speaker 1: Don't play, we can't we can't play like CBS at home.
Speaker 3: I'm not, We're not like that's why we go to
Speaker 3: That's why we go to the y'all said crazy when
Speaker 3: y'all see us like that's one v one, But know
Speaker 3: what one v one was?
Speaker 1: What is that? I said, what is the you want
Speaker 1: to play one?
Speaker 3: Because we were not the ones and list and the
Speaker 3: point that you even thought that we're gonna you up,
Speaker 3: y'all understand, understand the difference between me and you, and
Speaker 3: they don't understand like just because we don't play that
Speaker 3: we still got to do everything that just playing is
Speaker 3: doing what they think.
Speaker 1: We're just sitting there like we just coming to the
Speaker 1: game and sitting on the giant. You're not working out
Speaker 1: what the y'all think we're doing. That's why we playing
Speaker 1: the y M That's why you you got to That's
Speaker 1: why we're playing the leagues because you go ahead and
Speaker 1: pick your mind. I think we scored sixty just because
Speaker 1: we putting us in the game. We we can do
Speaker 1: this all day, man, I can't. I really appreciate y'all
Speaker 1: coming in. Also, real team, it's been an thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all keep killing with y'all killing though for real y'all. Also, man,
Speaker 2: y'all killing. I'm got to tune into twins winning. Put
Speaker 2: a little cheese. Go ahead and get your money, man, money.
Speaker 2: We we we were definitely blessing him. It's fun though, man, Like,
Speaker 2: we really look at the game, so I check. We
Speaker 2: ain't tell you dropped the house on it, but drop
Speaker 2: a little.
Speaker 1: We know you got to.
Speaker 2: I know what I'm talking.
Speaker 3: I'm cussings up by the god damn well, y'all.
Speaker 1: Ain't I never gonna see the real man?
Speaker 2: Respect man, y'all coming in. G's out, O's out.
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