1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: You're listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: Paranormal podcast network, where we offer you podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural. 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: And the unexplained. 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Get ready now for Beyond Contact with Captain Wrong. 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 3: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 3: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 3: to Coast AM, employees of premier networks, or their sponsors 9 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 3: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 10 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 11 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 4: Hey everyone, it's Captain Ron and each week and Beyond Contact, 12 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 4: we'll explore the latest news in ufology, discuss some of 13 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 4: the classic cases, and bring you the latest information from 14 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 4: the newest cases as we talk with the top experts. 15 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of Beyond Contact. I am 16 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: your host, Captain Ron, and today we're going to be 17 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: doing something a little bit different. There's no guests today. 18 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: I've just been getting a lot of questions lately regarding 19 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: the UFO alien phenomenon, and I think it's time we 20 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: do a show about perspective and the importance of keeping 21 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: an open mind with regard to these topics. Each of 22 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: these four segments will take a different approach to keeping 23 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: things in perspective. Some people will say to me, They'll say, 24 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: I have an open mind because I think some lights 25 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: in the sky might be UFOs okay, But an open 26 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: mind means that you also think that they might be 27 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: something else, something more terrestrial. I think it's important to 28 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: remember that with anything, you have to wait until you 29 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: have more knowledge and perhaps a different reference point before 30 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: making these determinations. It's my opinion that the vast majority, 31 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 2: like ninety nine percent of these sightings do in fact 32 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: have a terrestrial explanation. We have all seen strange lights 33 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 2: in the sky. We have all seen tricks of the 34 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 2: light or something we couldn't quite immediately identify. That doesn't 35 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: mean the only explanation is alien. I think some sightings 36 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 2: are actually anomalous and definitely require more scientific investigation as 37 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: well as speculation from the observers, as they very well 38 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: might be looking at something else entirely. There's too many 39 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: experienced observers who have witnessed such sightings. Sometimes just by 40 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: us physically moving, things come into focus and we realize 41 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: exactly what we're looking at. Sometimes you look up and 42 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: wonder what the heck is that, and then suddenly these 43 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 2: lights in the sky that you were looking at and 44 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: you realize it was just a cluster of birds. Like 45 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 2: when you look at a three D sign that's designed 46 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 2: to spell out a name, but only when you are 47 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: standing in the correct position viewing it from the correct angle. 48 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 2: If you are off angle by just a little bit, 49 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: things look like a mess. But then when you're in 50 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: a correct position and your perspective is correct, then the 51 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: science can be read clearly. Perspective is the important factor here. 52 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: Sometimes our perspective changes because we physically move, like in 53 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: the three D sign example. Sometimes our perspective changes because 54 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: time has passed and we can look at something from 55 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: a new perspective. What was scary at age nine may 56 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: not be scary and may even be silly at age fifteen. 57 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: Things in life that were important to us at twenty 58 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: might not be so important to us at forty. Grotcho 59 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: Marx was hugely popular and considered hilarious in the early 60 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: twentieth century, but it doesn't land the same to today's 61 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: audiences who look at it from a different perspective. Another 62 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: way our perspective can change is technology and knowledge gained 63 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: from that technology. There's this notion that you've probably heard 64 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: it from the seventeen hundreds, called the invisible ship's phenomenon. 65 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: It states that when the new explorers came from Europe 66 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: to the Americas, the indigenous people didn't even see the 67 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 2: ships coming because they didn't know what ships were, so 68 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 2: they had no reference or perspective to know what they 69 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 2: were looking at, so they couldn't even see the ships. 70 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: That's the perception the Europeans had based on the reaction 71 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: of the natives. It does illustrate the point that we 72 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 2: all operate from our own paradigm in worldview. We know 73 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 2: the culmination of what we have learned and experienced and 74 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: deal with on a daily basi. I think most of 75 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 2: us would be scared or at the very least startled 76 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 2: if we saw a ladybug that was ten inches long. 77 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: That's outside our belief system of what we know a 78 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 2: ladybug should be. That's one way to look at things. 79 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: Another way is to think of it as we don't 80 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: know what we don't know. It's hard to think of 81 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: things this way. Put yet another way, there's a well 82 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: known quote from Arthur C. Clark that says, any sufficiently 83 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 2: advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. That's because it's more 84 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: advanced and we don't yet understand it. Let's imagine you 85 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 2: could time travel back to eighteen seventy five, keeping in 86 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 2: mind that that is only one hundred and fifty years ago, 87 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: not ten thousand years ago, but a mere one hundred 88 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: and fifty years ago, a very short amount of time 89 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 2: in the grand scheme of things, considering modern humans have 90 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 2: been around for about one hundred and sixty thousand years. 91 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: So you go up to the world's leading scientist of 92 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 2: eighteen seventy five and show them your cell phone and 93 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: say you can talk to any human being on the 94 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: planet on this little device. Instantly, their minds would be blown. 95 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: They would probably have a very hard time even grasping 96 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: the idea idea of this. They have never even spoke 97 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: on the telephone with anyone, let alone across the globe, 98 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 2: let alone on a screen face to face, let alone 99 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: in the palm of your hand. They have absolutely no 100 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 2: point of reference as to what you have. Then you 101 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: show them that you can also look up anything you 102 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 2: wanted to right in the palm of your hand on 103 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: that same device. This would certainly be earth shattering to them. 104 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: Like the stories we have heard of native people seeing 105 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: pictures of themselves for the first time. This can actually 106 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: also work in reverse. A fun YouTube search is to 107 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 2: watch young kids looking at a landline phone, the old 108 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 2: corded rotary style phones that were around even in the eighties. 109 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: They literally do not even have any idea how to 110 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: operate it, which brings me to another notion regarding perspective. 111 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 2: That is, we can be very close to something and 112 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: yet so very far away. It may be just out 113 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 2: of reate. We may in fact be very close to 114 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 2: hear a message from another civilization or even seeing another 115 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 2: life form, but we might be just off in our 116 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: ability to detect them. You only have to be off 117 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: by a tiny fraction and something maybe utterly useless, like 118 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: the rotary phone. If you were trapped and only had 119 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: an old rotary phone to call for help, if you 120 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: didn't know how to use it, you're out of luck. 121 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: You'd be so close to being able to make a 122 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: call for help, yet unable to do so. This reminds 123 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: me of the Gold Record that we sent out into 124 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: space on the Voyager pro back in nineteen seventy seven, 125 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: which is still traveling through space, by the way, and 126 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: is about fifteen billion miles from Earth and still sending 127 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 2: back data. This gold disc was filled with music and 128 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 2: sounds and images of Earth for another alien civilization to find. 129 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: What a fantastic idea. Of course, if anyone from another 130 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: civilization did find this, they too would have to have 131 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: a record player and know how to access those sounds. 132 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: Let's say they're smart enough to realize they need a 133 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: record player, or for some reason they do have a 134 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: record player. They would then have to also know what 135 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: speed to play that record at. This tiny distinction could 136 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: give them an entirely different idea of what we are 137 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: trying to communicate. Without that specific technology used in precisely 138 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: the correct way, they wouldn't be able to access it correctly. 139 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: So close but yet so far away. That's the problem. 140 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: In today's terms. We've all been there. We want to 141 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: charge up our phone or another device, and there's a 142 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 2: charger right there, but it turns out it doesn't fit 143 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: our exact model. Therefore, we can't charge up so close 144 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: but so far away, just by not having the exact 145 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 2: adapter to fit our device, a charger is useless to us. 146 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: Like the SETI program the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence, this 147 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 2: is a great idea. Also, it's a telescope array that 148 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: listens for radio frequencies from space. Awesome. However, this too, 149 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 2: only works if there's another civilization using radio signals and 150 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: using the exact same radio frequency range that we are 151 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: listening for, and it's coming from the exact place in 152 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: space that we're looking at. Another way to think of 153 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 2: this perspective is that you could literally live right next 154 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 2: door to a radio station. You look out your window 155 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: and there's a giant antent of broadcasting all sorts of 156 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: fascinating information. If you do not have a receiver, you 157 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 2: can't hear it and it's right next door to you. 158 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 2: Worse than that, let's say you do have a receiver 159 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 2: and it's right there, but you're off by one millimeter 160 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: when tuning it in, so you still can't dial in 161 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: that station, Or maybe you don't know how to dial 162 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 2: it incorrectly, like with the example of the rotary phone. 163 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: You know how to make a call, but you don't 164 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: know how to make a call on that type of phone. 165 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 2: Pondering these examples shows us how close we might be 166 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 2: to make in contact with another civilization, but we may 167 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 2: not fully see them, hear them, or realize their presence 168 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: because we don't understand how to. You can imagine how 169 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: close we might be to understanding another civilization's messages, but 170 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 2: we may just be off station by one millimeter. I 171 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 2: think it's imperative that we keep an open mind with 172 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: regard to this, as perhaps as our technology expands, we 173 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: will in fact one day be able to see here 174 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: or understand another civilization's messages or presents. When we come back, 175 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: we're going to talk more about how technology and knowledge 176 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: is continuously changing our perspective. You're listening to Beyond Contact 177 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: with Captain Ron right here on the iHeartRadio and Coast 178 00:10:47,040 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 2: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Beyond Contact. Technology, 179 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: knowledge and our perspective is constantly changing and opening new 180 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 2: avenues of discovery. Microscopic organisms were discovered in the late 181 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 2: seventeenth century. Before that, the notion of tiny, little living 182 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: organisms being everywhere surely would have been thought of as crazy. 183 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: It wasn't until into the eighteen eighties, after the telephone 184 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: was invented by the way that we discovered the first 185 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: scientific evidence that microorganisms are even part of the normal 186 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: human system. The infrared spectrum camera was invented around nineteen ten, 187 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 2: and it allowed us to see into the infrared spectrum 188 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: of light, which sees beyond what our eyes can see. 189 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: In nineteen fifty seven, French scientists Vladimir Gavro first began 190 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 2: researching infrasound machine that could hear well beyond that of 191 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: the human ear. There are, of course, countless examples of 192 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: this idea of how technology has allowed us to see 193 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: something that has existed the entire time, but it was 194 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: just out of reach of our perception. There are, of course, 195 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 2: countless other examples of this idea of how technology has 196 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: allowed us to see something that has existed the entire time, 197 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: but it was just out of reach of our perception 198 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: because we didn't have the ability to detect it. Throughout history, 199 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: there have been severe criticisms of anyone challenging the existing 200 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 2: position or norm. It's a pattern that is repeated over 201 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: and over and over, and it seems maddening to me 202 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: that we haven't grown more open minded as we see 203 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 2: this happening continuously throughout history. This has spanned across religion 204 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: and science for as long as they have existed to 205 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 2: this day, it still goes on, and often those who 206 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: challenge accepted Ourchael logical discoveries, for example, are shunned or 207 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 2: even excluded for having those ideas. In an oversimplification to 208 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,119 Speaker 2: illustrate the point, it's the notion that many ancient cultures 209 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 2: subscribe to a flat earth cosmography. Then we realized, of course, 210 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 2: that the Earth was in fact round. These ideas are 211 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 2: often later established and become the new norm as our 212 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: knowledge evolves, which just shows we all need to be 213 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 2: much more open minded with all of these ideas. Resisting 214 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: these new ideas so vorociously seems foolish, as oftentimes these 215 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 2: ideas eventually become proven correct as we gain more knowledge, 216 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 2: often through technological advancements. I believe many of these things 217 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: we currently view as unknowns will become apparent to us 218 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 2: as we gain more technology and thus more knowledge. It 219 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: feels wrong to be so dismissive of these ideas that 220 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: challenge the currently held paradigm as perhaps it's just a 221 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 2: matter of not having the right perspective or technological know how. 222 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 2: Don't just dismiss something out of hand because it doesn't 223 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: line up with your current worldview, which will one day 224 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 2: most certainly be an archaic paradigm. It's always about relative perspective. 225 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: We may very well be wrong in our assumptions about 226 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: many of these ideas and discoveries. Perhaps the ancient crystal 227 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 2: skulls are in fact storage devices that hold information about 228 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: the Earth or the universe, but we just don't know 229 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: how to access it. We may be so close and 230 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 2: yet so far. Like when people dismiss the notion of 231 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: an extraterrestrial civilization visiting Earth, they are speaking from their 232 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: paradigm using their current technology. They will often say, oh, 233 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 2: you can't get there from here. What they really mean 234 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: to say is you can't get there from here using 235 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 2: the technology that we have today, because that would take 236 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 2: over ten thousand years. The nearest star is four point 237 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: two light years away. A light year is the distance 238 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: that light travels in one Earth year, which is about 239 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 2: six trillion miles for those keeping track. So if we 240 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 2: could travel near the speed of light, it would take 241 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 2: us about four years. With today's current technology, we can 242 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: travel about thirty seven thousand miles an hour, so it 243 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: would take us tens of thousands of years to make 244 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: that journey. Obviously, we could develop faster and faster ways 245 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: to traverse space, of which several are being developed right now. 246 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 2: We could perhaps even develop an entirely new way to 247 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: move about the universe, or perhaps even inter dimensionally. There's 248 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 2: speculation we could even fold space and thus cover vast 249 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 2: distances in short amounts of time, using what some have 250 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: called wormholes. As just one example, in the fifteenth century, 251 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: you can easily imagine Europeans saying exactly the same thing 252 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 2: about the new world of North America, that you can't 253 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: get there from here. Of course, many of them didn't 254 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: even believe there was a here to come to, simply 255 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: because they hadn't had the technology to know better. But 256 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 2: of course, when we did discover the new world, it 257 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: would take a minimum of two to four months, depending 258 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 2: on the weather, to make that trip just one way 259 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 2: for a reference, that's about fourteen hundred to twenty eight 260 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: hundred hours. Quite a journey. Let's again imagine you could 261 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: travel back to eighteen twenty five, just two hundred years ago. 262 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: This is before we had steamship technology or even Morse code, 263 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: so travel and communication was what we would consider today 264 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: painfully slow. Then we developed through technology better ships and 265 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 2: even planes. Today boats can go from New York to 266 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: London in about one hundred and thirty five hours instead 267 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 2: of the twenty eight hundred hours that used to take, 268 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 2: and I bet you two hundred years from now that 269 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty five hour number will seem painfully slow. 270 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 2: We now, of course, even have planes yet to be 271 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: imagined technology that they didn't have in eighteen twenty five, 272 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: and the Concord plane can make the trip from New 273 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: York to London in under three hours. So something that 274 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 2: just two hundred years ago would take twenty eight hundred 275 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: dollars now takes under three We're talking about one one 276 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 2: thousandth of the time. I can certainly imagine people in 277 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 2: eighteen twenty five saying there's no way you can get 278 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 2: there from here in anything close to that time. It 279 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: was simply impossible from their worldview, from their state of 280 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 2: technology at the time. So we have to be open minded, 281 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 2: and we have to remember we are using our current 282 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: state of technology as a point of reference. Many of 283 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 2: these unknowns of today will surely be within our scope 284 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 2: of understanding in the future in nineteen hundred, not that 285 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 2: long ago at all. The famed British physicist Lord Kelvin stated, 286 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 2: now there is nothing new to discover in physics. What 287 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 2: only remains is to be measured more and more precisely. Wow, 288 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: holy hubris, what an example of us being so egotistically 289 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: locked into our own current point of reference. These analogies 290 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: are to illustrate the point that things change. These comparisons 291 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 2: to our technology or knowledge base are from just one 292 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty to two hundred years ago. They also 293 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: illustrate how fast and how dramatic our views, our technology, 294 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 2: and our knowledge and understanding can change in a very 295 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 2: short time. And now we are just beginning with another 296 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: new revolution, that of artificial intelligence. Already we can see 297 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 2: how technological growth is happening exponentially. One can easily imagine 298 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 2: if another civilization created artificial intelligence, as seems inevitable, how 299 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: fast their technology could evolve. Not only have they most 300 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: likely had a huge jump in linear time on us, 301 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: but depending on when they develop things like AI or 302 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 2: perhaps something even more advanced, something unknown to us, you 303 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 2: can imagine how fast their technological growth would be. A 304 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 2: civilization reaching our current level just one thousand years earlier, 305 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: than we have, and you can imagine how far ahead 306 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: they would be technologically, and they, of course have had 307 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 2: potentially nine billion more years to develop. Keeping in mind 308 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 2: that the accepted age of the universe is thirteen point 309 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 2: seven billion years old and the accepted age of the 310 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: Earth is just four point five billion years old, it 311 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: seems very reasonable to assume that another intelligent civilization in 312 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: the universe could be over nine billion years ahead of 313 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: us in technological development. Given what we have learned in 314 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: just the last two hundred years, you can imagine a 315 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: civilization wouldn't need to be nine billion years ahead of 316 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: us technologically, but a mere nine million years or even 317 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: nine thousand years could mean such a vast difference in 318 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: understanding of the universe that it would easily be incomprehensible 319 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 2: for us from our current perspective to even understand. When 320 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: you consider what a profoundly rapid change AI is making 321 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 2: in our understanding of the world in the universe, you 322 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 2: can easily extrapolate that out to a civilization that's a 323 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 2: one thousand or let's say, ten thousand years ahead of us, 324 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 2: and you can imagine how even a slight jump on 325 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: us technologically would put them vastly ahead of us. Faced 326 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: with an advanced society with higher technology, we may not 327 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 2: even be able to grasp the fanciful notions that they 328 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 2: have mastered. We just saw how a two hundred year 329 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 2: advantage that we have over those in eighteen twenty five, 330 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 2: and how drastically our understanding of the universe and the 331 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 2: human experience is. And that's from the same species, in 332 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 2: the same location, on the same planet, just simply looking 333 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 2: at the world from a two hundred year difference in perspective. Next, 334 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: we will look at how every major advance in science 335 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 2: shattered a previous belief that was certain and everyone accepted 336 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: as factual. These new discoveries were often criticized or dismissed 337 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 2: entirely until through technology, we are able to gain the 338 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 2: knowledge to prove them. You're listening to Beyond Contact on 339 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. 340 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 2: We are back on Beyond Contact. When you sit back 341 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 2: and take a look at it, nearly every major advance 342 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 2: in science shattered a previously held belief that was believed 343 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: to be a certainty and everyone accepted as factual. I'd 344 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 2: like to run through a series of these examples for perspective. So, 345 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: going back to twenty five hundred BC, the Egyptians thought 346 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: that the sun god raw, carried the Sun across the 347 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 2: sky in the daytime and then brought it back through 348 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 2: a tunnel under the earth at night. This is literally comical. 349 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 2: Today a nine year old would laugh at this notion. 350 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 2: In five hundred BC, the first worked out that the 351 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 2: Earth wasn't flat, going against the common belief that it 352 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 2: was indeed flat. Two thousand years later, in fifteen forty three, 353 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: Nicholas Copernicus figured out that the Earth revolved around the 354 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: Sun at a time when nobody knew that the stars 355 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 2: were even other suns, and he did this using only 356 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: the naked eye without any technology. Fifteen years later, in 357 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 2: fifteen nineteen, the Magellan Elcano expedition was the first to 358 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 2: provide practical proof that the Earth was actually round. In 359 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 2: the year sixteen hundred, Geodorno Bruno was buried alive at 360 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 2: the stake and his ashes were thrown into the Tiber River. 361 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 2: This was for several reasons, including that he proposed that 362 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 2: the stars were distant suns surrounded by their own planets 363 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 2: what we call today exoplanets, and he raised the possibility 364 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 2: that these planets might foster life of their own. Bruno 365 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 2: was tried for heresy by the Roman Inquisition on charges 366 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: of denial of several core Catholic dot org He also 367 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 2: believed in pantheism, meaning he regarded the universe as a 368 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: manifestation of God, and he believed in reincarnation of the soul. 369 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 2: It was only after his death that he gained considerable fame, 370 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 2: particularly by nineteenth and twentieth century commentators, who regarded him 371 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 2: as a martyr for science. His case is still considered 372 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 2: a landmark in the history of free thought and the 373 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 2: emerging sciences. In sixteen ten, Galileo pretty much confirmed Comperticus's 374 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 2: belief that the Earth went around the Sun. At that time, 375 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: the Catholic Church classified it as heresy and warned him 376 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 2: to abandon it. It is said that he luckily was 377 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 2: only spared torture and death like Bruno faced, because his 378 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 2: powerful friends intervened on his behalf. Nearly four hundred years later, 379 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty nine, they even launched a space probe 380 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: with his name on it. In the eighteen sixties and seventies, 381 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 2: when famed scientist Louis Pastor presented his findings on fermentation 382 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 2: in the role of microorganisms. Some scientists and medical professionals 383 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 2: were very skeptical of the germ theory because it challenged 384 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 2: the prevailing miasma theory, which held that diseases were caused 385 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 2: by bad error or vapors. This theory was widely accepted 386 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: and ingrained in medical practices of the time, so Pastor's 387 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 2: ideas were met with much resistance from those who were 388 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 2: invested in the traditional theories. By the late nineteenth century, 389 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 2: Pastor was proven to be correct and eventually revolutionized medicine 390 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 2: and microbiology. Another example, in eighteen sixty five, James Clark 391 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: Maxwell's groundbreaking equations introduced a unified theory of electricity and magnetism. 392 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: They were initially met with resistance, as well as experimental 393 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: evidence and technological advances in the late nineteenth and early 394 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: twentieth centuries validated Maxwell's theories. The initial criticism finally diminished, 395 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 2: and by the early twentieth century his work has become 396 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 2: widely accepted and recognized as a cornerstone of classical electromagnetism. Then, 397 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 2: in nineteen twenty three, again were only talking about one 398 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: hundred years ago, Edwin Hubbell and other astronomers all thought 399 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 2: that our Milky Way galaxy was the entire universe. But 400 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 2: then at the Mount Wilson Observatory in California, they discovered 401 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 2: the first galaxy beyond our own. Up until then, the 402 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 2: entire world believed that the entirety of the universe was 403 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 2: just what we now consider our one small, little Milky 404 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: Way galaxy. In fact, today we believe that there are 405 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 2: up to two hundred trillion galaxies. It's hard to believe 406 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 2: that just one hundred years ago we thought there was 407 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 2: one our own that was the whole universe, and today 408 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: we know that we are one in perhaps two hundred trillion. 409 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 2: Incredible to think we were again wrong by so much, 410 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 2: and that was just one hundred years ago. But thanks 411 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 2: again to technology, we now know otherwise. The other galaxies 412 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 2: were always there, but we didn't know how to see them. 413 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 2: In nineteen thirty, Alfred Wagner proposed the Earth's continents move 414 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 2: very slowly over millions of years, they can move a 415 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 2: long way. Between nineteen twelve and nineteen twenty nine, he 416 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 2: published a stream of fossil and rock evidence to support 417 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 2: this theory. He died in nineteen thirty, again less than 418 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 2: one hundred years ago. His theory of continental drift was 419 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: rejected by most scientists during his lifetime. It was only 420 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 2: in the nineteen sixties that continental drift finally became part 421 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 2: of mainstream science. In nineteen sixty four, Peter Higgs of 422 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 2: Higgs Boson fame and his team first proposed the Higgs 423 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 2: Boson particles existence. At the time, the standard model of 424 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 2: particle physics had not yet even been conceived. It took 425 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 2: nearly fifty years later in the creation of the Large 426 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 2: Hadron Collider to finally prove his theory. He was one 427 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 2: of the lucky ones, as he was alive and able 428 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 2: to see his theory proven true, and he was validated 429 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 2: during his lifetime. In nineteen ninety two, doctor Alexander Wolscand 430 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: discovered the first exoplanet, meaning a planet around another star 431 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 2: outside our Solar system. Now we are taught talking about 432 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 2: just thirty five years ago. This widely held consensus belief 433 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 2: at the time was that there were no planets around 434 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 2: any stars period. Thanks to technology today, we now believe 435 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 2: one in five stars has planets around them. Again, we 436 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 2: were so far off of what we now know to 437 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 2: be reality. As I mentioned before, our galaxy alone is 438 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 2: known to have between one hundred and two hundred billion planets, 439 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 2: with approximately sixty billion of those planets in what they're 440 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,719 Speaker 2: calling the habitable zone that could potentially harbor life. Again, 441 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,719 Speaker 2: that's using our paradigm for our type of life. So 442 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 2: this could in fact one day be an even bigger 443 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 2: number as well, and it could be even bigger yet 444 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 2: if you start to think about the existence of other 445 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 2: dimensions or realms. An important note here is the whole 446 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 2: time when science was considering other life in the universe, 447 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 2: it was with the understanding that there were no other 448 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 2: planets in the universe. In twenty seventeen, astronomer Robert Work, 449 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 2: working in Hawaii, detected a strange object traveling through our 450 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: solar system. This turned out to be the first known 451 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 2: interstellar object in our galaxy and was named a Muamua 452 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,719 Speaker 2: Avi Lobe. The head of astronomy at Harvard brought this 453 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: name to prominence in twenty twenty one when he speculated 454 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 2: that this could in fact be a craft from outside 455 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 2: our Solar System. In twenty twenty, a team of researchers 456 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 2: led by Jane Graves from Cardiff University in the UK 457 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 2: announced the discovery of a significant source of phosphorin, which 458 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,959 Speaker 2: is a biosignature gas that's closely related to life on 459 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 2: Earth in the clouds above Venus. These scientists were shamed 460 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 2: for claiming signs of life on Venus, but now they're 461 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 2: back with even more evidence, and this is now being 462 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 2: considered today. There are countless examples of scientists who were 463 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: discredited and later, often after their death, proven to be correct. 464 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: These examples also illustrate how far off our accepted beliefs were. 465 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 2: I mean by factors of millions, sometimes trillion. It's astonishing 466 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 2: how off we were. Perhaps there are in fact different dimensions, 467 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: but we don't know how to see them because we 468 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 2: don't have the technological know how yet to do so. 469 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 2: Perhaps other civilizations are reaching out to us, but we 470 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: don't have the technological know how on how to hear 471 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 2: and decipher these messages. Given a little time and technology, 472 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 2: our belief system can easily be turned on its head, 473 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 2: as we've seen. The point of all these examples is 474 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 2: we may not understand what is happening with all this 475 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 2: phenomena in and around the UFO field, but that doesn't 476 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 2: mean it's not real. It may just mean we don't 477 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 2: have the technology or the knowledge to fully understand them yet, 478 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 2: And maybe we are off by one millimeters somewhere from 479 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: receiving the messages from across the universe. We are just 480 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 2: now getting to the point where we are unable to 481 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 2: tell if someone is AI or a real human being. 482 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 2: If we did come upon an extraterrestrial form of AI, 483 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 2: and we were somehow able to communicate with it, we 484 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: would have no way of knowing if it's in fact 485 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: a form of artificial intelligence itself or actually an alien 486 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 2: intelligent as we would have no point of reference or 487 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 2: perspective on it. Again, it seems most likely to me 488 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 2: that this would be the case, as it seems to 489 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 2: make much more sense for our civilization to send out 490 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 2: some form of AI instead of a biological being to 491 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 2: explore the universe. But then again, of course, I'm thinking 492 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 2: with our current way of understanding, it is clearly ignorant 493 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 2: to judge everything by our current state of technology and 494 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 2: our current paradigms. We all have unique world views based 495 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 2: on what science tells us and what our life experience 496 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 2: has taught us. But I think it's important that we 497 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 2: all remember that this will change in the future, so 498 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 2: we shouldn't be so quick to dismiss other possibilities, as 499 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,959 Speaker 2: most assuredly, our technology, our knowledge, and our reference point 500 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 2: will most certainly change. Better to be open minded when 501 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 2: these changes come than locked into a worldview which will 502 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 2: one day certainly be an archaic one. Speaking of paradigms, 503 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 2: check out the website of Danny Sheehan's organization at the 504 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 2: New Paradigm Institute dot org, as they are doing incredible 505 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 2: work on moving our knowledge in this area forward. When 506 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 2: we return, we're going to take a look at the 507 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 2: latest technologies and how they may affect our understanding of 508 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 2: possible extraterrestrial communication as well as our own human experiences. 509 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 2: You're listening to Beyond Contact on the iHeartRadio and Coast 510 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 2: to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. Welcome back to Beyond Contact. 511 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 2: I am Captain Ron, and we've been talking about the 512 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 2: importance of perspective and having an open mind with regard 513 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: to ET and UFO issues. We've seen how technology can 514 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 2: open up a whole new world to us, often one 515 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 2: that was always there but we just didn't know how 516 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 2: to person if its presence. And we've talked about how 517 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 2: oftentimes many of these new discoveries were ridiculed or dismissed 518 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 2: out of hand, yet eventually those outlandish ideas were often 519 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 2: later proven true. You can see how all this applies 520 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: nicely to the notion of alien civilizations. We have seen 521 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 2: throughout history that mankind has been caught up in its 522 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 2: own hubris, when in fact it is very often wrong 523 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 2: in even the basic understandings of the universe as we 524 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 2: now know it to be. There are other technological developments 525 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 2: which could have a huge profound effect on what we 526 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 2: know about the universe and may help in the search 527 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 2: of extraterrestrial life. There's the proposed Habitable World's Observatory, which 528 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 2: would be a large infrared, optical and ultraviolet space telescope. 529 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 2: It would be optimized to search for and image Earth 530 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 2: sized habitable exoplanets in the habitable zones of their stars 531 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 2: where liquid water can exist. There is also the ELT, 532 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 2: aptly named the Extremely Large Telescope in Chile's Atacama Desert. 533 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 2: This telescope is to be operational in twenty twenty eight 534 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 2: and will be one hundred and thirty feet across, making 535 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 2: it the largest ever built. It will track down earthlike 536 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 2: planets around other stars and could become the first telescope 537 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 2: to find evidence of life outside of our solar system. 538 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: The leap forward with the ELT can lead to a 539 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 2: paradigm shift in our perception of the entire universe, much 540 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 2: like Galileo's telescope did four hundred years ago. Next, I'd 541 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 2: like to talk about us being on the verge of 542 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,719 Speaker 2: yet another scientific revolution which is poised to utterly change 543 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 2: the human experience as we know it. The first part 544 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 2: of this is the onset of artificial intelligence. Given the 545 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 2: digital computing is fundamentally based on mathematics, which is a 546 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 2: universal language that describes patterns, structures, and relationships, these systems 547 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 2: reflect fundamental principles that are likely to be universal. Therefore, 548 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 2: does stand the reason that another advanced civilization may develop 549 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 2: its own form of digital artificial intelligence, and or perhaps 550 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 2: something even more intriguing. As we are just getting a 551 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 2: handle on understanding this technology, we can already see how 552 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 2: it could vastly improve our space exploration, and as I 553 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 2: mentioned earlier, it seems like a much more logical choice 554 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 2: to send AI out into space to explore the universe 555 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 2: instead of humans. AI doesn't need breaks does it need 556 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 2: to eat, doesn't get sick, doesn't die, doesn't have to 557 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 2: report to the wife. Nothing. It can continuously learn and 558 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 2: send back data to us. We are starting to see 559 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 2: artificial general intelligence systems emerge that possess general cognitive abilities 560 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: that are similar to human intelligence. We are already hearing 561 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 2: about artificial superintelligence, which is a form of AI that 562 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 2: would surpass even the best human minds in every field, 563 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 2: including creativity, problem solving, and social intelligence. And it's just 564 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 2: going to continue exponentially from there. Elon Musk is currently 565 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 2: building the world's largest supercomputer called XAI. This computer will 566 00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 2: have over one hundred thousand of these specialized Navidia superconductors 567 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 2: to train and run the next version of his gronk AI. 568 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 2: It's just massive. It's being built in a facility that 569 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 2: has over seven hundred and eighty five thousand square feet 570 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 2: and is set to open in twenty twenty five. And 571 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 2: this is not the only one. Others are being designed 572 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 2: to be built right now as well. Not only will 573 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 2: AI greatly enhance our ability to explore the universe, but 574 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 2: it will give us better technology to understand what's happening 575 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 2: in our skies right here on Earth. It can help 576 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 2: us search for UFOs by analyzing large amounts of data 577 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 2: from various sources such as radar, satellite imagery, radio signals, 578 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 2: and even eyewitness reports. It has the ability to identify 579 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 2: things like planets, planes, drones, and the space station. AI 580 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 2: algorithms can be trained to detect patterns or anomalies shifting 581 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 2: through just massive amounts of information, making it much easier 582 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 2: for researchers to focus only on the anomalies and the 583 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 2: data and investigate those further. Additionally, there are new artificial 584 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 2: intelligence models that can detect alien life. According to a 585 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 2: study published in the scientific journal Proceedings of the National 586 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 2: Academy of Sciences. They say this algorithm can distinguish between 587 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 2: samples of biological and non biological origin ninety percent of 588 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 2: the time. This method should be able to detect alien 589 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 2: biochemistries as well as things similar to Earth life. It 590 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 2: states that these results mean that we may be able 591 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 2: to find a life form from another planet, another biosphere, 592 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 2: even if it's very different from the life we know 593 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 2: here on Earth. And if we do find signs of 594 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 2: life elsewhere, we can tell if life on Earth and 595 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 2: other planets derived from a common or a different origin. Obviously, 596 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 2: this is not necessarily intelligent life, but it will verify 597 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 2: confirmed life out there to mainstream science, which is a 598 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 2: massive step on its own. If we do discover some 599 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 2: new message sent from an alien civilization, we would need 600 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 2: AI systems to decode and figure out the translation of 601 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 2: such messages. Not to mention, if we do actually have 602 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 2: an interaction with another intelligence, we would again need an 603 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,919 Speaker 2: AI system in order to be able to communicate with them. 604 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 2: AI did start off as a language model, after all, 605 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 2: and as has been said earlier, not only would we 606 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 2: send AI up to Explorer space because AI travels better 607 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 2: than a biologic being like humans, but aliens too would 608 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 2: most likely be sending some sort of artificial intelligence as well. 609 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 2: So it is actually quite likely that the first official 610 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 2: alien human communication would really be AI to AI. This 611 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 2: is such a new frontier that we really don't know 612 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,720 Speaker 2: where it's headed. Neither do the top people in this field. 613 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 2: For example, Jeffrey Hinton, considered the godfather of AI, has 614 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 2: expressed concerns about the dangers and fears of artificial intelligence. 615 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 2: Here's a couple quotes that he has said on the subject. 616 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 2: The alarm bell I'm ringing has to do with the 617 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 2: existential threat of them taking control. I used to think 618 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 2: this was a long way off, but I now think 619 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,959 Speaker 2: it's serious and fairly. He also wrote, it's quite conceivable 620 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 2: that humanity is just a passing phase in the evolution 621 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 2: of intelligence. 622 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 4: Wow. 623 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 2: Pretty incredible. Sam Altman, the CEO of OpenAI, has been 624 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 2: quoted as saying, I prep for survival, including AI that 625 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 2: attacks us. So clearly, we really don't know what AI 626 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 2: will become or what it's capable of, but it's important 627 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 2: to note how the top people in this field are 628 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 2: clearly concerned. There is yet another development, also by Elon Musk. 629 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 2: They may have an equally profound effect on the world. 630 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 2: That is his Neurallink company and their brain computer interfaces 631 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 2: or BCIs. These are computer chip brain implants that could 632 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 2: potentially transform various aspects of medicine, technology, and human enhancement 633 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 2: in the future. These BCIs could enable direct brain to 634 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 2: brain communication or allow individuals to communicate with outspoken language, 635 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 2: creating an entirely new form of interaction. Not to mention 636 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 2: the speed of this community, which will be much faster 637 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 2: than anything we have now. As you can imagine, it 638 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 2: will continuously get faster. Just as computers of ten years 639 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,280 Speaker 2: ago are unusuably slow today, the same will happen here. 640 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 2: More importantly, these brain computer interfaces could allow for more 641 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:20,720 Speaker 2: seamless interaction between humans and artificial intelligence, enabling an almost 642 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 2: cyborg like instant integration with AI systems. These computer interactions 643 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 2: could take place at speeds ten times as fast as 644 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 2: we communicate, and up of what we now take to 645 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 2: communicate with a computer system. They are already saying that 646 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 2: the slow part of our interaction with AI is the 647 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 2: time it takes for the human being to input to 648 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 2: the computer. Computers can already calculate one quintillion calculations per second. 649 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 2: The human experience as we know it and have known 650 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 2: it to be is about to go through profound changes 651 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,720 Speaker 2: over just the next couple generations, and this is already 652 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 2: happening right now. Two people have already had a computer 653 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 2: chip implant, and two more are getting it imminently. Neuralink 654 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 2: is a form of human augmentation, but this too could 655 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 2: potentially assist in the search for UFOs. It could potentially 656 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 2: enhance human perception by connecting our brains directly to sensors 657 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 2: or devices that can detect signals related to UFO sightings. 658 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 2: This enhanced perception could allow individuals to detect and interpret 659 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,359 Speaker 2: signals or phenomenon related to UFOs that are beyond our 660 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,879 Speaker 2: natural senses. It could enable direct access to an analysis 661 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 2: of vast amounts of data related to UFO sightings and experiences. 662 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 2: People could analyze and interpret this data more efficiently, potentially 663 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 2: leading to new insights and discoveries about the UFO phenomenon. 664 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 2: This technology could potentially enhance human capabilities and allow us 665 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 2: to perhaps gain a better understanding of many of these 666 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 2: different mysterious phenomenon. AI and neuralink have a huge potential 667 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 2: to utterly change the human experience and the way we 668 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 2: both understand and interact with our world. Perhaps these technologies 669 00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,919 Speaker 2: will lead us to be able to detect and eva 670 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 2: and interpret messages from an alien civilization. Once again, It's 671 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 2: possible these messages are already coming here, we just haven't 672 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 2: had the technology to hear them yet. These are just 673 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 2: a couple examples, The point being that I believe we 674 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 2: should stay at the very least open minded with regards 675 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 2: to these topics. As history has shown us time and 676 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 2: time again, Eventually our way of thinking will become an archaic, 677 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,720 Speaker 2: ignorant way of thinking. Hit us up on social media 678 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 2: with your thoughts. You can reach me Captain Ron on 679 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 2: Twitter and Instagram at ciitd Underscore Captain Ron. Stay connected 680 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 2: by checking out contact intheeesert dot com and, as I 681 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 2: always say, stay open minded and rational as we explore 682 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 2: the unknown right here on the iHeartRadio and Coast to 683 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 2: Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network. 684 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 685 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: Day and Paranormal Podcast Network. 686 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 2: Make sure and check out all 687 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 1: Our shows on the iHeartRadio app or by going to 688 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:11,359 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio dot com