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Speaker 1: edition of the Movie Sticks Podcast. It is our annual

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl Roster reveal show. What's going on? Everybody? I

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Speaker 1: am Rhett Lewis, and here with me to run through

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Speaker 1: this roster. We've got our former NFL scouts, our lead

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Speaker 1: pleasure to welcome back here with us the executive director

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Speaker 1: of the Reese's Senior Bowl, Jim Naggi, is with those guys.

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Speaker 1: Great to be here with you. Huge show lined up

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Speaker 1: also gonna talk with Cincinnati head coach Luke Fickle, who's

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Speaker 1: let's start with a big welcome here and just give

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Speaker 1: scouting process that led you to these Yeah, Red great

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Speaker 1: being back on appreciate you guys doing this every year

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Speaker 1: with us, Uh, and it was it was a little

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl Week which begins January thirty one. But for

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Speaker 1: us here on NFL Network, you get your first recent

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl practice recap show Tuesday, February one, Wednesday the second,

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Speaker 1: it for you at eleven Eastern all leading up to

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Speaker 1: here on NFL Network and throughout the week, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: see some of the best quarterbacks college football has to offer.

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Speaker 1: And we've got a really eclectic group of guys in

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Speaker 1: of the acceptances here. Uh So, you remember last year

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Speaker 1: Can you just talk about Daring a little bit, his

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Speaker 1: versatility and kind of what you see him doing at

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Speaker 1: the next level. Yeah, I still think he's just scratching

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Speaker 1: the surface. Um. He was a guy that came to

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Speaker 1: us from Yukon uh and played against US the first

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Speaker 1: two years. One year he was the defensive end, the

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Speaker 1: next year he was a linebacker, and kind of back

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Speaker 1: and forth. Uh. He's a guy that's got lots of versatility,

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Speaker 1: very very athletic, but his size gives him a chance

436
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Speaker 1: to do a lot of different things. He can rush

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Speaker 1: the passer. Uh. He really developed, you know, the the

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Speaker 1: instincts to play inside that box, so which is unique.

439
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Speaker 1: Sometimes you know, guys are more comfortam planting on the

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Speaker 1: edge or playing outside. But he's a guy that's done

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Speaker 1: at all. He played us off the ball as a

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Speaker 1: kind of a hybrid safety two years ago for US,

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Speaker 1: and then really slidding back down inside the box and

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Speaker 1: really played the will linebacker for US as well as

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Speaker 1: an edge rush guy. So. Um, lots of versatility, especially

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Speaker 1: moving himself to the next level. Coach, I want to

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Speaker 1: ask you about Kobe Bryant you mentioned him there with

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Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter. You know, everybody's gonna talk about your quarterback

449
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Speaker 1: and rightfully so getting that attention. But watching your second there,

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Speaker 1: I'd love to ask you about what you saw exactly

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Speaker 1: with Bryant when you brought him into the program. And

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Speaker 1: then bigger picture, there's more guys than just him in

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Speaker 1: this second. Are you guys are stacked? What what do

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Speaker 1: you look for when you're evaluating the position? Well, first

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Speaker 1: of all, Kobe, I mean he's one of his uh guys.

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Speaker 1: I actually knew since he's probably about eight years old.

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Speaker 1: I had his brother, uh coach his brother and actually

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Speaker 1: helped recruiting to a little bit from from Cleveland Glenville.

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Speaker 1: So was as we've moved came here and had an

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Speaker 1: opportunity to get Kobe, I knew in the long run

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Speaker 1: what we were getting very very competitive competitive dude that

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Speaker 1: um I was gonna fight no matter what to get

463
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Speaker 1: better and better and better and everything he did and

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Speaker 1: he proved exactly to be that, and uh, you know

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Speaker 1: he's one of those guys when when we really looked

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Speaker 1: back at this over the five year period, that really

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Speaker 1: created the environment atmosphere that we have today. Um so

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be do a phenomenal job. He came back

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Speaker 1: this past year when a lot of people said he couldn't,

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Speaker 1: you know, raise his stock anymore, uh, And he just

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Speaker 1: came back and worked and obviously did an unbelievable job,

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Speaker 1: won the Jim Thorpe Award, raised his stock, uh and

473
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Speaker 1: made us a lot better football team as well. And

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Speaker 1: as you said that we had some talent in the

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Speaker 1: back end. Now you know you can add Am out

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Speaker 1: in there and obviously Brian Cook. But what we had

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Speaker 1: the four good forces of having as a leader like

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Speaker 1: Kobe that kept everybody grounded and kept everybody working. Um,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, the most unique, high high end group

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Speaker 1: of guys that I've ever been around. And you guys

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Speaker 1: know what i mean, have been around a lot of

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Speaker 1: football that I'm not saying the high end guys are

483
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Speaker 1: harder to manage and deal with. Sometimes. I'm, you know,

484
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Speaker 1: defensive lineman used to the grunt work, and you know,

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Speaker 1: find myself being able to relate to the D line

486
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Speaker 1: online guys a little bit more. But because of Kobe

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Speaker 1: and those guys, they that group UM was his enjoyable

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Speaker 1: to coach as any high end group I've ever been around,

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Speaker 1: you know, coach, A lot of attention obviously is on

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Speaker 1: your quarterback, Desmond Ritter, who's been along for the rod.

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Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about him and what makes him

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Speaker 1: special as a leader and as the face of the program. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think it's more than anything. He has the utmost

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Speaker 1: respect of everybody that walks in that locker room. And

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Speaker 1: not because he's the best player or he has been

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Speaker 1: the best player, but because of you know, where he

497
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Speaker 1: came from in year one as a scout team quarterback

498
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Speaker 1: actually just got beat up two year two of finding

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Speaker 1: a way to get himself on the field and you know,

500
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Speaker 1: running around and just making things happen, and um, just

501
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Speaker 1: his growth and you know he's fallen and he's you

502
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Speaker 1: know taking a lot of that. I don't say blame.

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Speaker 1: Obviously we didn't lose a lot of football games at

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Speaker 1: his time, but he accepted a lot of the blame

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Speaker 1: when things didn't go exactly the way maybe we envisioned

506
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Speaker 1: it offensively, uh, And he did nothing but take it.

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Speaker 1: And then any time that he started to get the phrase,

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Speaker 1: he pushed it off to everybody else and everybody just

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Speaker 1: recognizes that he has their back and Uh, he's it

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Speaker 1: makes everybody around him better. So, um, it's not just

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Speaker 1: me that speaks this highly of him. I'm sure you

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Speaker 1: can walk to the locker room and ask anybody from

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Speaker 1: a freshman to a senior that, uh, I would say

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Speaker 1: the same things about Desmond Ritter and you know what

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Speaker 1: he has meant to them. And you know the example

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Speaker 1: has been well the coach, I know, you know the

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Speaker 1: importance of the edge rusher at the NFL level and

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Speaker 1: getting out to the quarterback. And you certainly had one

519
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Speaker 1: of those guys that can bend it around the edge

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Speaker 1: of my Sanders will be down there Inmobile. How do

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Speaker 1: you assess his potential on the next level to be

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Speaker 1: one of those game changers coming off the edge for

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Speaker 1: a team. Well, I'm excited for Maga. I mean not

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Speaker 1: to say I mean we we played him a little

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Speaker 1: bit differently and might not have been to his exact strengths.

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Speaker 1: And going into this past season, we thought about changing

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Speaker 1: up a little bit more of what we do to

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Speaker 1: try to allow him to play as an outside linebacker.

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Speaker 1: But um, I'll give him a lot of credit. You know,

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Speaker 1: we asked him to play a type five technique, a

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Speaker 1: head up four technique or four eyes sometimes inside UM,

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Speaker 1: when we know that his best his best ability is

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Speaker 1: to be on an edge and you know, to be

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Speaker 1: able to continue to rush from an edge. Uh. He

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Speaker 1: didn't bat an eye at playing inside and doing those things.

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Speaker 1: So I think he's gonna flourish at the next level

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Speaker 1: when he gets himself into you know, a system that

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Speaker 1: might be a little bit more fitted for him to

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Speaker 1: play on edge, maybe stand up, maybe to even be

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Speaker 1: you know, a true outside linebacker where he can drop

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Speaker 1: and he understands the game of football. I think, uh,

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Speaker 1: I think he's got a lot more to out to go,

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Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna fit even better than, uh

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Speaker 1: than what he did for us. Yeah, Louke, you bring

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Speaker 1: up mag I mean, what's he gonna look like? Can

546
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Speaker 1: see your bowl one on one pass rushtrials. I mean,

547
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Speaker 1: this guy's get off. Tackles are gonna have a hard

548
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Speaker 1: time getting a hand on him. But but rhet and

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Speaker 1: I had a chance to be around Desmond this summer

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Speaker 1: at the at the Manning Passing Academy. UM had a

551
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Speaker 1: good chance to connect and one of the things he

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Speaker 1: brought up was he really wanted to work on his

553
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Speaker 1: deep ball accuracy, and I think you saw that on

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Speaker 1: tape this year and really the Benefici year, I that

555
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Speaker 1: was Alec Pierce. Um. You know, a big six three

556
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Speaker 1: two and fifteen pound wide out that can stretch the field.

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Speaker 1: Can you talk about him a little bit because coming

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Speaker 1: into the year, Alc was probably more of an under

559
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Speaker 1: the radar guy, but had had a big, big year

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Speaker 1: for you guys. No, he did. He did. He did

561
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Speaker 1: a great job. And you know, the great story about

562
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Speaker 1: him is, I think three years ago we moved into linebacker.

563
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Speaker 1: We weren't sure he could play wide receiver, and we

564
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Speaker 1: went in to a bowl practice in bowl game, UM,

565
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Speaker 1: where he played outside linebacker for us, and uh, after

566
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Speaker 1: the bowl game everything, we kind of kind of sat

567
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Speaker 1: down with him and he really saw himself as a

568
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Speaker 1: wide receiver. So I said, okay, well we'll move you

569
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Speaker 1: back over to wide out and give you an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to keep growing at that position. And uh, well it's

571
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Speaker 1: a good thing we did, and a good thing we

572
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Speaker 1: listened to him. Um. But he did. He you know,

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Speaker 1: he wasn't just a deep ball. I mean, he could

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Speaker 1: do a lot of different things. But as the year

575
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Speaker 1: progressed in his connection with Dez became so much better.

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Speaker 1: You know, he was hurt a little bit last year

577
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Speaker 1: and especially the Game of the Year, and in their

578
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Speaker 1: connection just created so much more opportunities that you know,

579
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Speaker 1: I don't do a whole lot offensively, but I would

580
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Speaker 1: click onto the heads and be like, um, when are

581
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Speaker 1: we gonna take a couple of shots to Alec Just

582
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: usually that defensive coach and saying they run the football

583
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Speaker 1: and you know, run the clock. And I'm getting on

584
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Speaker 1: and say, okay, now, when's the SHOT's gonna start coming

585
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: to Alex and we need to we need to give

586
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Speaker 1: him a couple of opportunities. Fifty five or seventy O coach,

587
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Speaker 1: I gotta ask you something completely unrelated to the Senior

588
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Speaker 1: Bowl or to football, but as we're all kind of

589
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Speaker 1: around the same age. As a Cincinnati head coach, I've

590
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 1: got to know we're going Nick van Exel or we're

591
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: going with Kenyan Martin here when it comes to Cincinnati

592
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: Bearcat favorite basketball players. Well, you know, I think that

593
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Speaker 1: Nick would be a little bit of that finesse And

594
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Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's just a finesse guy,

595
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Speaker 1: but I've never been a giant basketball guys and watching

596
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Speaker 1: for us in our program and what we would kind

597
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 1: of see ourselves as is tough and nasty that ken

598
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Speaker 1: Yard Martin, Uh would have to be I don't wanna

599
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: take this wrong way, but would be where I would

600
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Speaker 1: start my franchise and go with so, Um, I'm gonna

601
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Speaker 1: go with the big guy and uh, you know the

602
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: nasty guy down underneath. Yeah, I'll tell you what. If

603
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Speaker 1: Darre and Beaver's was under the hoop, I'd get out

604
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,719
Speaker 1: of the way. Um. And that's for sure a lot

605
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Speaker 1: of these guys think they should be out there playing

606
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: under that who too, So that's right. Thanks a bunch

607
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: of being with us. Congrats on your success this year,

608
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Speaker 1: Good luck next season. Thanks guys, appreciate before to seeing

609
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Speaker 1: out seatable. If we're going to classroom graduation, we're going

610
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Speaker 1: on this football field for a long time in that

611
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: white room. It's worked hard to give us an opportunity

612
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: to go win every Saturday. But that being saying, don't

613
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Speaker 1: try and get a bit into the Super Bowl. Got

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Speaker 1: Jim executive director from the Senior bowls here tonight and

615
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: that is awesome. And then perhaps col Strange will be

616
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Speaker 1: the next small school stud the Senior Bowl is found

617
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Speaker 1: along the offensive line like Ali, Mark Patt Alex Cappen

618
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: last year Quinn Miners. So it's not often you get

619
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Speaker 1: book in tackles in the Senior Bowl. Put fire up chips.

620
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Speaker 1: That's what we have with Bernard Raymond and luke Ganecki

621
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Speaker 1: from Central Michigan. How about Spitzer Brown, you might remember

622
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Speaker 1: from last year partly the Big Senior Bowl weekend with

623
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Speaker 1: third round selection by the Buffalo Bills last year, his

624
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Speaker 1: former teammate in Northern Iowa could have similar success Trevor

625
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Speaker 1: Penning among the top of the class this year. Spencer

626
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: Berford was the highest rated recruit Everett ut s A

627
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: when he signed and proved his worth in a supremely

628
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: successful season for coach Jeff Trailer down in San Antonio.

629
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Speaker 1: But Jim, let's get back to Trevor Penning. What catches

630
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Speaker 1: your rive about the way he plays out there at

631
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Speaker 1: Northern Iowa. Well, the biggest thing that catches your eyes

632
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: how nasty he is. Now he is a dominant FCS

633
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Speaker 1: level player. You brought up Spencer Brown playing at a

634
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Speaker 1: high level for Buffalo this year, But you put on

635
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Speaker 1: the tape of of Trevor Penning and It is so

636
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: much fun to watch because he literally just bullies people.

637
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: He's not really challenged. When we went up to Northern

638
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Speaker 1: Iowa to to invite Trevor, he was this year's first

639
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: invite tee. In our first acceptance, um, I brought up

640
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Speaker 1: Eric Fisher and you know, you go back. I think

641
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Speaker 1: you guys were at the game when it was Luke.

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Speaker 1: It was the draft of Luke, jokel And and Eric

643
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: Fisher and Lane Johnson all up at the top, and

644
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: Eric Fisher came down to Mobile. It's probably a late

645
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: first tromp pick from Central Michigan and ended up as

646
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick in the draft. And I'm

647
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: not saying Trevor can maybe get there. Maybe he can,

648
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: but all the NFL needs to see him do is

649
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: do what he did against NFL caliber people, which he

650
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: probably hasn't done. The best player he's probably went against

651
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: in his whole time at Northern Northern Iowa is his

652
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: former teammate Ellerson Smith, who was in last year's Senior

653
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: boards with the Giants. Now, so a big prove it

654
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: week for Trevor and I could see him coming out

655
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: of Mobile Week is a guy that leaving here could

656
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: be in the conversation for a top ten pick. Woll.

657
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: I mean, that's very impressive. You know what's funny you

658
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: talked about him bullying people on that level. There's a

659
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: guy that I'm interested in seeing. It has the big guy,

660
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: Daniel Lee from Minnesota, because when I look at him

661
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: six eight three d and seventy nine pounds, you normally

662
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: don't see guys that big that can move around. So

663
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: I want to see what it looks like he's gonna

664
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Speaker 1: be able to function out in space, because when you

665
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: see him do some things in Minnesota, he buries people

666
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: in the run game, but is he going to be

667
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: nimble enough to hold his own when he has to

668
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: deal with passwords? Is off the edge. I'm actually see

669
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: how long the NFL career goes for him, because the

670
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: w W career is waiting for him once that is over.

671
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: That is a genormous human being. I'm gonna go to

672
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: one of the more I think, one of more polarizing

673
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: players in this year's draft class. There's always a couple

674
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: of guys like this, but Daryan Kinnard at Kentucky, who

675
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: is somebody that some team's view as a tackle. Others

676
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: view as a guard. You talk about being able to

677
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: mall people, he can absolutely do that, but there are

678
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: times he gets a little bit top heavy. It impacts

679
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: his balance and he has some issues. The one on

680
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: ones at the Senior Bowl are going to be huge

681
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: for him, not only determining how high he could go

682
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: in the draft potentially, but what position is this guy

683
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: gonna play? Is he gonna play right tackle? Was he

684
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: gonna play inside at guard? I'm looking forward to get

685
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: my eyes on him down there Mobile. Do we have

686
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: like a size record for the Senior Bowl like in

687
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: in history? Is is Filet gonna be like the biggest

688
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: human we've ever seen take the field in Mobile for

689
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl week? He's gonna be Think Donald Parrum. I

690
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: think Donald parm has the hype record. I believe he's

691
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: got to have the hype record. Might be and uh,

692
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: we've got another Minnesota Golden Gopher that's gonna be revealed

693
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: here and just a little bit as well. So with that,

694
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: let's get to our next position group. Let's switch sides

695
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: of the ball, get to the defensive lineman. We did

696
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: not get to see Haskell Garrett in Ohio States dramatic

697
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl win over Utah New Year's Day, opted out,

698
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: but will play in the Senior Bowl and get used

699
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: to sing players from Georgia on this any defensive position

700
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: group reveals here Davante Wyatt one of four Georgia defenders

701
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: heading to Mobile as of right now. And Jim, let's

702
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about Fedarian Mathis from Alabama. Was

703
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: a major interior disruptor in that semifinal win over Cincinnati.

704
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: Couple of TFLs and a sack. Is that a picture

705
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: of what he can do on the next level? Yeah? Absolutely, Um,

706
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: you look at the lineage of defensive lineman coming out

707
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 1: of Alabama and you can you can probably say this

708
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: for about any position group coming out of Tuscaloosa. But

709
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: you look at these guys, the Jonathan Allen's you last year,

710
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: Christian Barmore, all the way back to you know, Jarren Reid,

711
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: Delvin Thomlinson. Um, you know philm Matha is the next

712
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: guy in line. I think going into this year he

713
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: was probably more of an early Day three guy. Now

714
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: he's squarely on day two. You talked to guys around

715
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: the league, he's probably more of a second round pick.

716
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: But heavy hands, good technician like all those guys, but

717
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: he can't affect the passer. He's not just a two

718
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: down player. We saw it in the semifinal with two

719
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: bad at passes on Desmond Ritter. Um really alert player.

720
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: What what I love going to see Alabama play twice

721
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: live this year? This guy during pre game is lathered up. Now.

722
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: You talk about a guy that's bringing the jews to

723
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: his teammates. And for me, you know, for someone that

724
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: that works here at the Senior Bowl, like knowing what

725
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: the intensity that this guy is gonna bring every day

726
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: in practice. Um, he's gonna raise the level of our

727
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: practice week. So you know, Phil Mathis is a guy

728
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: we're excited about because I know he's gonna get everyone

729
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: else cranked up. I've convinced Jim that that Alabama has

730
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: played with the same two defensive tackles for the last

731
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: fifteen years and they just put new name plates on

732
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: the back because they all look exactly the same. They

733
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: find the exact same body types, they plug him in,

734
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: they dominate, they move on, and then they rinse and repeat.

735
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Houston though for one of the

736
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: ones I'm really intrigued by watching and that is big

737
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: Logan Hall. You talked about six ft six two or

738
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: seventy five pounds. He's long, He's got some of that

739
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: inside outside flex. I think if you've watched the Saints

740
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: at all this year and you've seen the upside and

741
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: the ability and what they have there in Marcus Davenport,

742
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: I've see a very similar player here in Logan Hall

743
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: was very disruptive. Um, somebody, I think teams are gonna

744
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 1: fall in love with Dounomobile. Yeah, I agree. He's definitely

745
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: someone who is very disruptive at the point of attack.

746
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: And so I'm gonna put my eyes on another disruptive player.

747
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: How about Zachary Carter from Florida. When I look at him,

748
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: what I love about his game is heavy hands, plays

749
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: with power off the edge, great motor. I love the tenacity,

750
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 1: and so when you see guys like that, they come

751
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: off the edge and are able to consistently get it done, man,

752
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: you really get excited about that. He is one of

753
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: the guys that I'm definitely watching down in the senior

754
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: bo Okay, guys in with that. So those are defensive linemen,

755
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: maybe more guys you'd see on the interior. Let's get

756
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: to the sack artist. Here the guys out on the edge,

757
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: all right, our edge defenders. Here's one you don't see

758
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: every day. Almost five hundred career receiving yards for Miami

759
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: of Ohio's Dominique Robinson, who spent the first three years

760
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: of his career at wide out before moving this year

761
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: to the edge. We talked about my j Sanders with

762
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: Luke Fickle earlier in the show I'm aout a pair

763
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: of Penn staters heading to the Senior Bowl as well,

764
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: and Arnold mcketie and Jesse Luke Kett. A ton of

765
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: edge talent heading down to Mobile DJ. Let's take a

766
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: closer look though, at Florida State's Jermaine Johnson, because he

767
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: was a career backup at Georgia and then made the

768
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: transfer and really start in his single season here for

769
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: the Seminoles. What did you see from him? Well, first

770
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: of all I knew about the transfer is one of

771
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: their early games just TV scouting, right, and you're watching

772
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: Jermaine Johnson and he's flashing all over the place and

773
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: making plays, and I remember thinking, how the heck did

774
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: this guy not play at Georgia. Then I watched Georgia

775
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: playing realize, Okay, they have a little bit of an

776
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: embarrassment or rich is there. But this dude is very intriguing,

777
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: very much has a chance to go in round number one.

778
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: He can bend at the top of his rush. He's

779
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: a good finisher, and I think that transfer was an

780
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: outstanding decision for him. Let him get featured a little bit,

781
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: and he'll also be featured when you get to the

782
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: Reese's Senior Bowl. I'm excited to see him. Look, I'm

783
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: excited to see I feel like I got all the

784
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: golden on my on my curse. So how about boy,

785
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: my faith. I like the energy into effort, like the

786
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: energy effort, and look so much about pass rushing. It

787
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: is not necessarily about technique, but it's about the ability

788
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: to get a first, second, and third effort to get home.

789
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: I saw this guy do it over and over and

790
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: over again, and so there you have it. I don't

791
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: be down inmobile with my golden go for Pomp Pomp

792
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: room to see if another golden go for can get

793
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: it done. Yeah, and you talk about effort, we're talking

794
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: another relentless guy in that South Carolina's j J Nibar

795
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: four and a half sex This year, but fifteen on

796
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: his career. And he's a guy that when you you

797
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: put on the tabe, he wins with hand use and

798
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: he wins with his effort and he's got burst into quarterback.

799
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about a six four guy with

800
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: thirty four and five eighths in ch arms, and he's

801
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: one of those long guys that has a knack when

802
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: he gets around the quarterback. He affects of whether you

803
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: know it's stripping the ball out, you know, disrupting a

804
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: passing lane. He just plays long and that's what the

805
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: NFL is looking for. They're all looking for those those

806
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: long bodied pass rushers and you know, kind of the

807
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: theme being the high motor group. I mean, this guy,

808
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: jij Nic barre Um is another one of those guys.

809
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,439
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a great class down there to watch,

810
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: especially in those one on one pastorals with those offensive

811
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: linemen and those edge defenders. Al Right back here with

812
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 1: you want to remove the six reese Senior bowld roster

813
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: revealed show looking at the Senior Bowls second level defenders

814
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: and you'll find some similarities in the body type of

815
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's Darren Beavers to that of which we saw with

816
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: the Cardinals first round traft pick Davin Collins. As we

817
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: talked about a little bit with Luke Fickle, the Cincinnati

818
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: Bearcat's head coach earlier in the show. He's a big

819
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: off the ball backer and we got a pipeline emerging

820
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: for Wyoming. Lined Acker is heading to Mobile. The a

821
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: f C North champion Cincinnati Bengal selected stud senior bowl

822
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: on Logan Wilson the third round. A couple of years ago,

823
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: could chat muma in the next cowboy in line at

824
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: linebacker t J out of this group, who catches your

825
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: eye here from these second level defenders, Well, no bias

826
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: at all, but I'm gonna go to my alma mater here,

827
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: all right. I mean I have no choice but to

828
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: go with Chacks. I mean, look at the numbers. You

829
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: can see him on the spereight. Their hundred nineteen tackles,

830
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: nineteen tackles for loss. What that tells you is about

831
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: his instincts. He's got phenomenal instincts. He's got ranged to

832
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: make plays sideline to sideline. He's an outstanding blitzer. Really,

833
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: there's nothing he can't do. And to me, I think

834
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: he's got a chance to sneak into day two and

835
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to see him in coverage down there.

836
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: Once he gets that question answered, Um, he's gonna be

837
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: home free. He's gonna be a high pick. Also, guys

838
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: that can I throw one more kind of get a bonus,

839
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: get a bonus one in there because I want I

840
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: want to get the other Georgian linebacker in there. Um.

841
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: When you watch their a Chenney Tinnel doesn't play all

842
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: the time. They rotate so many guys through, but when

843
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: he does get out there on the field is more

844
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: herald of teammates. You see this, You see him flashing

845
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: big time range sideline to sideline. He's got juice. He

846
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: looks like he plays with outstanding length. Makes you to

847
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: see how big he is. He looks a little bit light.

848
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: It makes us to see that down there in person.

849
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: But on a defense that's absolutely stacked. I feel like

850
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: this guy gets lost in the shuffle. Yeah. Sticking in

851
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: Athens DJ and going back to Jermaine Johnson, the comment

852
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: with Jermaine him transferred a Forlorida State. One guy that

853
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: stayed put it was Quay Walker. And when you talk

854
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: about big, physically impressive old school size, linebackers that play

855
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: like a new wave player. It's quay Walker. I mean

856
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: he's he's almost six ft four, you know, two forty

857
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: five pounds, and there is a wow factor when you

858
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 1: get up on him. I saw him against South Carolina

859
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: this year. When you get down in the field pregame,

860
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: you're like, holy Kyle, look at this guy, and you

861
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: talk to the coaches. That's the same reaction NFL scouts

862
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 1: had when they went into the school this year. They

863
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: were grabbing the linebackers coach after practice, Glenn Schuman, and saying,

864
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: man like, we knew your guy was big on tape,

865
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: but it's incredible when you get up on this kid

866
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: and then you see how we could run and you

867
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 1: watch him go through drills. I mean he's got footwork

868
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: like a dB. So it was our first year starter

869
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: and a guy without a ton of tape going into

870
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: this year. I mean, he's he's just scratching the surface,

871
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: excited to see what quay Walker and Walker can do.

872
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 1: We talked about the coverage element with with the Marco

873
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: Jackson um. I think that's an area where quay Walker

874
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: will really excelled. And Senior Boy week, you know, it's

875
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 1: funny Jim. When I was at Carolina, we took Thomas

876
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: Davis from Georgia and it was a lot like that.

877
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: He was a big, physical kid. He was so athletic

878
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: that we started him initially as safety before he settled

879
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: a week side linebacker. And when I look at walking,

880
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: you talk about size, physicality, toughness, you talk about the

881
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: limited experience, but man and the one year that he

882
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: played and started, he has been a dominant player. A

883
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: lot of interests, a lot of intrigue, and what he

884
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: can do when he gets between the lots. Sure thing.

885
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: We talked a lot about Darren Beavers as well, But

886
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: guys Evan Lloyd from Utah is going to be musty

887
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: TV down in Mobile. You saw him on the field

888
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 1: in Pasadena at the Rose Bowl, and Utah head coach

889
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: Kyle Winningham has called him the best player he's ever

890
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: coached on defense. High praise right there. Let's get to

891
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: the cornerbacks headed down Toomobile for this year's Reese's Senior Bowl.

892
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 1: The Lockdown specialist here include Auburn's Roger McCreary, he's top

893
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: five guy in this year's class. Kobe Bryant. We've talked

894
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: about from Cincinnati, your Thorpe Award winner. How about Trek

895
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: Castro Fields, part of a nasty Nitney Lions secondary, really

896
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: talented group. There you'll see another one of his teammates

897
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: when we get to the safetyes Trek times two with

898
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: UTEP's Woolen. Serious link there at corner as a six

899
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: ft three dude, Bucky. Let's talk mr Pick six though

900
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: from one of the best defenses in college football, and

901
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: I was Riley Moss. Look, man, I love Riley Moss.

902
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: Had a chance to watch him at a Big Ten

903
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 1: championship game and you can see the athleticism, but bettter

904
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: yet the instincts, the technique, Weld coach, and when you

905
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: think about Iowa defensive backs, that's the one thing to

906
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: come into the league with great technique, great instinct. He

907
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: has outstanding awareness with the balls in the air. He

908
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: has a chance to be a bit a bit of

909
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,439
Speaker 1: good player the men's level. Now, it's great to see

910
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: Bucky travel from Minnesota all the way to Iowa. By

911
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: the way, it really broadening his horizons here on these

912
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: senor guys. I mean, can we use some pjjs this

913
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: it's a non Minnesota play. I'm trying to give the

914
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: big tents some love. I feel like I always neglect

915
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: I love it. That's true. Also, Naggy also a good point.

916
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: Look to me, I'm gonna go to Auburn and Roger

917
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: McCreary because some guys just have one specific question to answer.

918
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: And with him, we know we can play the ball.

919
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: We know he's tough and physical. The question is can

920
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: he really really run? I'm looking forward to give me

921
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: a matchup of like Dotson from Penn State, John Dotson

922
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: against Roger McCreary. We saw that during the regular season.

923
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: I want to see it down there in Mobile. I

924
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: want to see round number two between those two talented guys. Uh,

925
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: that's the only question he hasked to answer. If he

926
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: answers that, guys, he's gonna be a first round pick

927
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: and he's probably gonna go in the first half of

928
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: round one. Yeah, you'll you'll get that, DJ, You'll get that.

929
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that. Next. I'm looking forward to.

930
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 1: Let me give you a bonus one here, Darren Kendrick.

931
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 1: How about finishing off the year. I mean, we'll see

932
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: he does in the championship game, but you can't have

933
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: a better semifinal game than a couple of H I

934
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: N T s and that one. He's somebody I have

935
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: kind of in that second group of corners coming into

936
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: to the Senior Bowl. He's kind of more in that

937
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: round three range for me. We'll see what he can do.

938
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: If he can vault himself up there. Man, he's off

939
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: to a good start if the playoffs are any indication.

940
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: The guy that I'm really excited to see down here

941
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: is a guy that started his career at Troy University

942
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: here in the state uh grew up in the state

943
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: of Alabama, and that's Marcus Jones from Houston. You know,

944
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: he's kind of a do it all dB. That played

945
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: him at nicol, that played him outside, that played him

946
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: in prete safety, and you know, to me, one of

947
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: the biggest things, one of the biggest compliments you can

948
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: give a defensive back is that he's a baller. This

949
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: kid is just a baller. I mean, no matter where

950
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 1: they line him up, he's making plays on the ball.

951
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: They put him back as a return around funds or

952
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: kicks and he's bringing the ball back. I want to

953
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: say he's got seven or eight return touchdowns in his career.

954
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: You know, it really been a game changer for the

955
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: Houston Cougar program since he's transferred from Troy. So a

956
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: guy that's hyper competitive can play all over the place. Um,

957
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: he'll be a fun guy to watching these one on

958
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: ones because he can absolutely blanket are the guys that's

959
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: one half of the secondary. Let's get to the safety's

960
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: in this year's group, and uh, the safeties look like this.

961
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: We got the dominator, Joe Joe Tolman was a linebacker

962
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: for the Nebraska Corner Huskers and their best defensive players

963
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Part of the safety group

964
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: though in Mobile and as promised, another Penn Stater in

965
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: the mix here with Jakwan Brisker. Really talented group there,

966
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: Jim look no surprise though to see the success of

967
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bearcats this year. They've got six guys in

968
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 1: the game as of right now. When you have players

969
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: as talented as Kobe Bryant at corner, Sauce Gardner at

970
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: corner as well as not in the game. But you'll

971
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: see his name called earlier in the draft and Brian

972
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: Cook from the safety spot. Maybe he doesn't get as

973
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: much love. How did he catch your eye? Well again,

974
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: We've talked about some first year starters this year. Brian

975
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: Cooks another one. This is a guy. He was logjam

976
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: behind James Wiggins and Derek Forrest last year, both those

977
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: guys who were NFL draft picks this past year. And

978
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: Brian cook is a guy. He's a Howard transfer for HBC.

979
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: You guy just got better and better every week. He's

980
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: one of the most physical safeties in this class. He's

981
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: one of the most dependable tacklers in this year's class. Um.

982
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: You know, so a guy again, he's just starting to

983
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: play his best ball. So we're excited to get him

984
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: down here. You talk about those corners in that secondary

985
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: and Cincinnati get most the love. Um. But when you

986
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: look at where he's ranked his position group, Brian Cook

987
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: um is right up there, probably a top three or

988
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: four safety in this year's draft. Well, that concludes the

989
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: majority of the position groups here, but we cannot leave

990
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: the specialists out because Jim a couple of years ago,

991
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: you absolutely knocked it out of the park by giving

992
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: the NFL two of its best kickers and buffaloes now

993
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 1: Tyler Bass and Indis Rodrigo Blank and ship Um. What's

994
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: the group look like this year, we got any we

995
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: got any big timers here that's gonna kick the ball

996
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: and snap the ball here a little bit. Yeah, it

997
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: is DJ and Bucky. No like Scott's we don't like

998
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: putting on all this special team states. So I do.

999
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: I reach out to a lot of people when it

1000
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: comes to this stuff. A lot of people in the

1001
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: kicking guru community. Um, and you talk to guys are

1002
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 1: on the NFL. Jake Camarda from Georgia and Jordan's Stout

1003
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: from Penn State are two guys that are gonna be

1004
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: They're gonna be in mid round picks. They're not gonna

1005
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: be seventh thrown picks. They're gonna be two of the

1006
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: higher rated, highest drafted punners in the last five ten years. Um,

1007
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: and then you go to snapper. We had both our

1008
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,959
Speaker 1: snappers drafted last year. Um. Cal Adam Micas from pitt

1009
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: is a guy that we invited to last year's Senior

1010
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: Bowl and he was talked into coming back to school.

1011
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: Um is a long snapper, but now we get we

1012
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: got him, so we're excited UH to get Cale down

1013
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 1: in the mix. And we had both snappers drafted last year,

1014
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: so hopefully Cal will make it making another one this year. Alright,

1015
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 1: So so if I'm gonna hear you correctly real quick, yeah,

1016
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: that means that Jim naggi is is admitting now on

1017
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: the roster reveal show that he does not enjoy the

1018
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 1: touch to toe timing. Shocking. That is some shocking news.

1019
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: You know how it gets at the end of the day,

1020
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: You've watched all the offensive tape and defensive tape and

1021
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: then you're you're sitting there, you gotta pull out the

1022
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: stop watch for the specialists. It's it's it's none of

1023
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: our favorite things. Well, Jim, as it turns out, if

1024
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: you need a holder, I'm your guy. Okay, if you

1025
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: need a specialist to be a holder here all time,

1026
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: I'll go both teams, no problem. But DJ, let's get

1027
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: some final thoughts here on this roster and on the

1028
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: you know, the valuable asset that the Senior Bowl provides

1029
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: us a draft evaluation. It is my favorite week of

1030
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: the year. And I'm not just saying that because Jim's here.

1031
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: It has absolutely been my favorite week of the year

1032
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: since I went to my first Senior Boy I believe

1033
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: that was in two thousand three, but everyone since it

1034
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: is the most valuable evaluation tool. In the process, you

1035
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: get to see the best players in the country going

1036
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: against each other one on one, and then in the

1037
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 1: team environment get to see how they interact with one another.

1038
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: There's a lot of value to be gained there as well.

1039
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: And for my money, offensive and defensive line one on ones,

1040
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: that's my that's my that's my joy of the entire year.

1041
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: It's my Christmas present each and every year. And Jim

1042
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: has really facilitated a great roster this year, particularly in

1043
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: the trenches. I cannot wait. I look, man, I love

1044
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. Haven't had a chance to play in

1045
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl back at UH. I'd rather the opportunity

1046
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: to see the best of the best go against one another.

1047
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: And from an evaluation standpoint, man, you just get a

1048
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: chance to see guys playing different environments. You see how

1049
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: they handle being coached by different guys, playing in a

1050
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: different scheme, and those reactions give you an opportunity to

1051
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: see what it may look like for them at the

1052
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: next level. And so when we think about all the

1053
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: all star games in the bowl games that are out there, man,

1054
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl is it. And I'm excited to be

1055
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: a part of it and to watch these guys grow

1056
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: and become the next generation of stars that we see

1057
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: hit the league. I appreciate the kinds word guys. UM.

1058
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: I just want to take this opportunity to to thank

1059
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: you everyone at the NFL Network for covering our game

1060
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: for as long as you have and bringing the spotlight

1061
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: to it. Uh. Thanking our scouting staff from this year

1062
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: and all the guy in the NFL. UM. You know,

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Speaker 1: we're on the phones of those guys on a daily basis.

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Speaker 1: We're trying to create these rosters for them so they

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Speaker 1: can come down and get a good evaluated week. UM.

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Speaker 1: So there's just a lot of people involved in this process.

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Speaker 1: We're really grateful, looking forward to another good week in

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Speaker 1: Mobile and can't wait to get you guys back down here. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And top notch medical care. As it turns out. Down

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Speaker 1: His name is Dean, and he's getting ready for his

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Speaker 1: fiftieth Senior Bowl uh this this year. So uh, I

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Speaker 1: love you Dad. Way to work. Um. All right, here

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Speaker 1: you go, reci Senior Bowl practice recaps here coming for

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Speaker 1: you starting Tuesday, February one, a p m. Eastern time.

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Speaker 1: You get one Thursday as well at eleven and the

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Speaker 1: Rece's Senior Bowls Saturday February p m. Eastern Time, right

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Speaker 1: here on NFL Network. And that's gonna do it for

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Speaker 1: this year's Roster Revealed show. Thanks so much to Jim

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Speaker 1: Naggy for DJ and Bucky and everybody that worked hard

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Speaker 1: to get this show on the air behind the scenes.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you and all of you for listening. Catch

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Speaker 1: next time. And Rhett has thirteen years in the business.