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Speaker 2: All right, Welcome back, especially to those of you who

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Speaker 2: all year long. Typically the way it goes is we

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Speaker 2: all the calls that we got. We're gonna take more

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Speaker 2: voicemails during the games or during the post games this

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Speaker 2: year too. But we got some voicemails about some trades

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Speaker 2: you know, some of the names that we're hearing just

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Speaker 2: of wanted to say expectations for folks who are thinking

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Speaker 2: that we might be able to unload Marcus Stroman and get.

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Speaker 1: A good player back.

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Speaker 2: If we trade Marcus Stroman, We're not going to get

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Speaker 2: much for him at all, and we've got the safe

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Speaker 2: the house. Welcome guys, Good morning, Good morning. All right,

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Speaker 2: so we're going to play this first voicemail here.

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Speaker 3: Hey, just wondering if the Yankees just try and trade

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Speaker 3: Clark Schmidt for Brendan Donovan to fix the infield issue.

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Speaker 1: That's a good call.

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Speaker 2: I mean it in theory would make sense, right and

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Speaker 2: that's something that would make sense. But when you look

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Speaker 2: at what Brendan Donovan gives you, this is a guy

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Speaker 2: who is young. He's twenty eight years old, he's in

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Speaker 2: his prime. He's a good player. He's about a two

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Speaker 2: He also has played some outfield. You see he's listed

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Speaker 1: But you're not going to get him for Marcus Stroman.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Marcus Stroman at this point would be a

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Speaker 2: Oh well above average. His range is excellent. The guy

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Speaker 2: has a lot of value. And right now, Marcus Stroman,

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Speaker 2: and who's got a vesting eighteen million dollar option if

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Speaker 1: This year got some people saying, damn, it's early. It

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, it's early, But like I said,

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Speaker 2: we're trying to get back into the swing of things

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Speaker 2: They're trying to be competitive probably next year, maybe the

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Speaker 2: year after. They didn't add a lot of big offseason

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Speaker 1: Had we've you know, I might as well just play

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Speaker 4: Hey, Derek Man, I'm glad your parents are doing a

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Speaker 4: better al so I'm watching you put on a great show,

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Speaker 4: and you know you're Yankees. I got a question for you,

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Speaker 4: what would the Yankee get for show man nothing number one.

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Speaker 1: And why can't they package him and DJ together.

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Speaker 4: Somebody for third days that can play every day.

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Speaker 1: Man, have a good night. I appreciate the call.

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Speaker 2: Next time doing me a favorite, just turn the TV

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Speaker 2: down in the back a little bit. So what you're

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Speaker 2: saying basically is, let's unload this. I guess DJ makes

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Speaker 1: Not gonna happen. That's like if you've got a bunch

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Speaker 2: see You've got a brand new snowmobile. Right, how about

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Speaker 1: Most likely.

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Speaker 2: If we do make a trade, I could see it

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Speaker 1: You know, where we make a baseball trade.

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Speaker 2: I talked last night about the Michael Pineda for Jesus

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Speaker 2: Montero trade, right, and that was a.

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Speaker 1: Deal that was what you would call a baseball deal.

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Speaker 2: The Mariners needed some offense, some young offense. The Yankees

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Speaker 2: You know, that was a baseball deal that, in theory

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Speaker 3: Hey, what's going on? I just wanted to ask your

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Speaker 1: But I mean that's if he's healthy.

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Speaker 3: And we could have just sold really high for the

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Speaker 2: Even if the Yankees wanted to trade John Carlo, which

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Speaker 2: if they wanted to trade him, they could two reasons.

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Speaker 2: One makes a ton of money and like you said,

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Speaker 1: And two he's got a no trade clause. He got

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Speaker 2: You might remember before he came to the Yankees, he

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Speaker 2: still has value. If you get to October. I'm not

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Speaker 5: Let's play this, hey, Derek Mark Denn Virginia Quick touches

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Speaker 2: All right, So we're going to take a look at

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Speaker 2: right now are looking at other. Options you, Know Dylan

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Speaker 2: We got a comment here Says i'm blinded by my

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Speaker 1: Family Charlie hayes A yankees.

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Speaker 2: Legend i'll never forget watching him catch that foul pop.

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Speaker 2: UP i believe it was From Mark lemke in the

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Speaker 2: You, know he wasn't exactly a guy who you, know

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Speaker 2: he didn't look Like John Carlos. Stinton he was not a,

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Speaker 2: i think that will be the guy that The yankees

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Speaker 2: this dead weight. Money so thanks for watching. Everybody, AGAIN

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