Speaker 1: Hello, friends, and welcome in to leading off right here
Speaker 1: on Fantasy Pros without Joey P. No Joe piece of Pia.
Speaker 1: I do a pretty good trumpet, by the way. It's
Speaker 1: one of the few impressions that I can do. I
Speaker 1: am Chris Welsh. I am your host for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 1: I apologize that you have to you have to live
Speaker 1: on without Joey P. But we will do so because
Speaker 1: joe did actually leave, literally in the craziest, most important
Speaker 1: time of the season, because oh, you know, like this
Speaker 1: is where we're gonna win our fantasy championships, this is
Speaker 1: where people are gonna go and play fantasy football. We
Speaker 1: take advantage of it. And oh, I don't know a
Speaker 1: trade deadline where all the big players and all the
Speaker 1: big news is gonna move on. But I am not
Speaker 1: doing it's solo because today joining me is the athletics
Speaker 1: own Mike Curlin. You can find them on Twitter at
Speaker 1: Mike Underscore Curlin. Sleepy k No more? What's up, Mike?
Speaker 1: What's up? Body?
Speaker 2: What do you mean? No more? I'm still sleeping.
Speaker 3: I'm just on podcasts, just leaving it. Man, those are
Speaker 3: good times.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I had that whole conversation with my wife the other
Speaker 3: day about it's been like three years since I started
Speaker 3: podcasting on my couch on and that's why I fall asleep.
Speaker 3: You don't podcast on a couch, don't do that, So
Speaker 3: I recommend obviously.
Speaker 2: It's been one heck of a journey. And thank you
Speaker 2: for having me. Man. It's always fun to get on here,
Speaker 2: and I'll hang out with you a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's good to have you. I mean, this is actually
Speaker 1: a perfect situation for you as well. You know, Mike
Speaker 1: has been known for all of his crazy, big breakdowns.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a lot of breakdowns into this with
Speaker 1: all of the coverage over at the Athletic also the
Speaker 1: basis loaded podcasts. Do you have anything going rest of season?
Speaker 1: I know the turn is happening. What are you still
Speaker 1: doing over at the Athletic right now?
Speaker 3: So I think I might have one more lineup article.
Speaker 3: What I do over the Athletic is it's kind of
Speaker 3: a niche of mind as I drop everything I had
Speaker 3: prepared in terms of notes and pen onto the it's
Speaker 3: a I do the whole uh. I do lineup breakdowns.
Speaker 3: I look at playing time situations. Who's playing platoons?
Speaker 2: I'm really big.
Speaker 3: I'm focusing on those, so it seems like the Giants
Speaker 3: and the Rays really frustrate me. But what I do
Speaker 3: is I do that for the for the athletic, I
Speaker 3: talk about, you know, potential call ups, who's going, who's
Speaker 3: affected in which way and why whenever there's a new
Speaker 3: player added to a team or a new player called
Speaker 3: up and all that. Just always quick to be on
Speaker 3: it and try to break it down as to like
Speaker 3: who you might want to look at and deeper formats.
Speaker 3: A lot of the times this affects deeper formats and
Speaker 3: then I carry that over and for the Patreon I
Speaker 3: do that for them like once a month in season,
Speaker 3: and then for my patreon at patreon dot com slash Skplaybook,
Speaker 3: I do like three or four of these write ups
Speaker 3: a week, just again team by team, what's happening, who's
Speaker 3: hitting well, who's doing poorly? Is there any new platoon forming?
Speaker 3: Is there playing time issues popping up? And it's just
Speaker 3: a constant. It's almost like just daily. It's like a
Speaker 3: daily concept of it's a daily grind.
Speaker 2: It really is.
Speaker 3: Because I've stopped doing it every day because some of
Speaker 3: it gets redundant.
Speaker 2: So I do.
Speaker 3: That's why I try to get two three day chunks,
Speaker 3: because you'd be surprised how much changes in a two
Speaker 3: to three day period between injuries. Between this guy's oh
Speaker 3: suddenly he went from starting every day vers lefties to
Speaker 3: now he's only started one of three. And these are
Speaker 3: types of things that we keep an eye on and
Speaker 3: really focus on and discuss how this input, how these
Speaker 3: can have this fallout in your fantasy lapse and maybe
Speaker 3: you should make us add to your team or drop
Speaker 3: this player, or maybe throw them on your bench stashing
Speaker 3: for a little bit, because this trade inline has been
Speaker 3: a big focus of mine in these write ups because
Speaker 3: so much has set the change, and.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk a lot about a lot about
Speaker 1: this doctor. Glenn shout out and says, who is even
Speaker 1: Joey P I need one of those. I can't be
Speaker 1: like Chrissy Dubbs. That doesn't quite work have the same
Speaker 1: ring to it. And I appreciate Wonky as she says,
Speaker 1: I prefer my host to have hair and shout out
Speaker 1: to Wonky too. The pleasant surprise as the football crew
Speaker 1: just completely ditched us and I was ready to go
Speaker 1: full board with some of the show sheet and Wonky
Speaker 1: had a bunch of stuff ready. So I want to
Speaker 1: give a big shout out to Kelly for doing all
Speaker 1: of that, and you will see Wonky on Wednesday for everybody.
Speaker 1: Let's get into all the stuff here for the day,
Speaker 1: all of the craziness, because we actually have a weekend
Speaker 1: to cover and the trade deadline is thirty hours away
Speaker 1: something like that, twenty eight hours away. But we had
Speaker 1: the one big massive trade and a little bit of
Speaker 1: pokey pokey me here, Curly, and you weren't here for
Speaker 1: this obviously, But everybody in the chat should know one
Speaker 1: thing I do get. I do not get to have
Speaker 1: a hat tip of fran miil Reyis, as I have
Speaker 1: been reminded about this year, but I do get a
Speaker 1: hat tip about my takes on the trade deadline and
Speaker 1: the Seattle Mariners, because the Mariners made a big trade
Speaker 1: over the weekend, and I had been saying Joe kept asking,
Speaker 1: oh trade trades, and I kept saying, I think the
Speaker 1: Mariners need to strike first, they need to go. Luis
Speaker 1: Castillo was one of those names. I think that was
Speaker 1: literally what he asked before we left on Friday, Hey,
Speaker 1: who should? Maybe it was Thursday? Who should? Or where
Speaker 1: should Luis Castillo go? I said, I think the Mariners
Speaker 1: make sense. I think they should strike first before the market,
Speaker 1: and that is exactly what they did. And they shocked
Speaker 1: a lot of people by moving to wel Vi Marte,
Speaker 1: which is a huge Di Dynasty piece. They also moved
Speaker 1: Edwin a Royo was actually a really big trade. I
Speaker 1: broke it down over on the Prospect one podcast if
Speaker 1: you guys want to hear it for the Reds and
Speaker 1: what the Reds are looking like now. But Carlin, I
Speaker 1: want to ask you Luis Castillo, not a lot of
Speaker 1: wins are actually going to talk about that here in
Speaker 1: just a little bit A struggling offense with Cincinnati, the
Speaker 1: stuff is there. Do you see a big fantasy uptick
Speaker 1: now that he is over and he is with the
Speaker 1: Seattle Mariners that are fighting and they're in contention, maybe
Speaker 1: a better ballpark, some better offense. What type of fantasy
Speaker 1: uptick do you see Luis Castillo as a Mariner?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: I think you hit right on. It is first off
Speaker 2: this year.
Speaker 3: Specifically, oddly enough, over his career from what I saw Castillo,
Speaker 3: who's era was actually worse on the road.
Speaker 2: I don't know how you manage that one.
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, better ballpark, better
Speaker 3: team context, more chances for wins, which is a category
Speaker 3: in some fantasy in most fantasy formats, even points leagues
Speaker 3: where wins get you like what seven points depend on
Speaker 3: your format, five points whatever.
Speaker 2: I think it'll really helps all around.
Speaker 3: This year alone, he has like a one and a
Speaker 3: half ur difference between his home and road splits too,
Speaker 3: So it's there's nothing not to like here, you know everything,
Speaker 3: it's all arrows pointing up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's something that I'm pretty happy about.
Speaker 1: I'm happy with the move, especially if you're a Luis
Speaker 1: Castillo owner. I would, I would feel really good about it.
Speaker 1: There's also something you could throw out to say that, like,
Speaker 1: if you were to own Luis Castillo, that trade move
Speaker 1: when he hasn't had a start yet really could get
Speaker 1: a solid return in a dynasty if you're not quite
Speaker 1: in it. This is a big boost to his dynasty value.
Speaker 1: Why you hold and you don't move off of talented
Speaker 1: players that might have some weird struggles and I don't know,
Speaker 1: even into redraft, if you're wanting to mix stuff up,
Speaker 1: if you're doing really good on the sp side. It's
Speaker 1: something that you can take a look at, and huge
Speaker 1: move for the Mariners. I wonder if they're done. I
Speaker 1: kind of don't think they're done. I think there's got
Speaker 1: to be something else in the works. It does not
Speaker 1: look like it's going to be one Soto. Been reports
Speaker 1: out that the Soda Sweepstakes is down to three teams,
Speaker 1: though I am waiting for the crucial fourth team, mystery team.
Speaker 1: There's always mystery team that has joined in. The current
Speaker 1: sweepstakes participants are the Padres, Cardinals, and Dodgers Corilin I
Speaker 1: have been very vocal about the Padres being the team
Speaker 1: for over a month, even when it wasn't. The Cardinals
Speaker 1: seem to kind of maybe have the best mixture that
Speaker 1: fits with them, and I think you never count out
Speaker 1: the Dodgers. It's something. I actually created a Dodger Soto
Speaker 1: trade on itl Fantasy Baseball the other day. So does
Speaker 1: one Soto get traded in the next twenty four hours
Speaker 1: and to whom.
Speaker 3: I can't believe for having this discussion, but I do
Speaker 3: think he gets dealt because I think they're desperate to
Speaker 3: move some of these They're trying to offload Corbin with them.
Speaker 3: That contract is horrendous, and I think they're going to
Speaker 3: have to offload that contract in order to justify trading
Speaker 3: Soda in the first place, because realistically, Soto is gonna,
Speaker 3: you know, the money it's gonna take to resign them,
Speaker 3: the hall that it's gonna take to obtain them. There
Speaker 3: is no such thing as a big enough return I
Speaker 3: think for a jan Soda, because Won Soto is what
Speaker 3: you hope all these prospects even become a third of
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So I think the Padres
Speaker 3: ultimately do have the best chances. And I'll say that
Speaker 3: because they have Abrams and Ruiz, two guys right now
Speaker 3: for some reason are called up and aren't even playing.
Speaker 3: But there's still two of the top prospects in this
Speaker 3: in this organization they get thrown up.
Speaker 2: They have the depth to make this move. Not to mention, I'm.
Speaker 3: Starting to get the idea that they don't care for
Speaker 3: their prospects. I mean, you don't call up Abrams. No
Speaker 3: other team in the major leagues would probably call up
Speaker 3: Abrams in Ruiz and just to sit them on the
Speaker 3: bench or platoon them. But the Padres have and they've
Speaker 3: done it in favor of guys like Mazara, guys like Voight,
Speaker 3: gets Dh Hosmer, all these guys. That's like, why are
Speaker 3: these guys getting in the way of these young, potentially
Speaker 3: potential studs or young guys that have all this upside
Speaker 3: that produce at the highest levels of the miners aren't
Speaker 3: even getting a chance to play even somewhat regularly in
Speaker 3: the majors.
Speaker 2: So it almost makes sense that the way it.
Speaker 3: Appears the Padres view their top prospects would be why
Speaker 3: they would be so willing to ship them off and
Speaker 3: include others in this deal to go get a Wan Sodo,
Speaker 3: a guy that is better than a other prospects plus
Speaker 3: will slot right into a need for them and produce
Speaker 3: right And though that lineup.
Speaker 1: Yeah, funny. A couple funny things. I'm actually undergoing this
Speaker 1: thing I do on my In This League Patreon In
Speaker 1: This League dot com. It's called the p one ADP
Speaker 1: mocks and it's designed to create a prospect ADP which
Speaker 1: does not exist. And it's a value chart as well,
Speaker 1: so I think it's really valuable. People want to check
Speaker 1: it out that they're literally being drafted right now. It'll
Speaker 1: be on the Patreon this month. But a funny thing
Speaker 1: just to this point was we found CJ. Abrams was
Speaker 1: actually still in the system. He's the only one that's
Speaker 1: in the system because he had met requirements of being
Speaker 1: on the roster but not overpass the at baths marker
Speaker 1: where he lose prospect eligibility. He's the only one of
Speaker 1: all those guys he's been around so long that he
Speaker 1: has been on the roster so much he still has
Speaker 1: not got the at bats that takes him off of
Speaker 1: roster qualifications. The value system that they have on him
Speaker 1: and where they have put him and the chances to
Speaker 1: succeed have been really minimal. There was a tweet out
Speaker 1: about ten fifteen minutes ago from MLB Network with a
Speaker 1: hypothetical on Soto, and it's pretty much what we've talked
Speaker 1: about on this show for the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Soto for Abrams, Mackenzie Gore, Robert Hassel, James Wood, who
Speaker 1: is their number three prospect, and Jackson Merrill, who a
Speaker 1: side note, James Wood and Jackson Merril are best friends
Speaker 1: and like when Wood was rehabbing, Meryll was also rehabing,
Speaker 1: they would like watch each other play out here in
Speaker 1: complex blah blah, blah, it doesn't matter. That's a huge
Speaker 1: prospect Hall. I don't think another team can really necessarily
Speaker 1: compete with that prospect Hall. But the key is going
Speaker 1: to be do they want those major league guys? And
Speaker 1: that's where the Dodgers provide the pitching side, and the
Speaker 1: Cardinals I think provide the hitting side, and guys like
Speaker 1: Gorman and Dylan Carlson if they were to be provided,
Speaker 1: if they were to come out there. So it'll be
Speaker 1: really really interesting to see. There's some other trade rumors
Speaker 1: going on. Montes is a target for the Padres, Twins, Yankees,
Speaker 1: and Blue Jays. I saw John Hayman report last night
Speaker 1: that the Yankees their sole focus is on Frank Montas.
Speaker 1: The Astros are looking at Christian Vasquez in addition to
Speaker 1: Wilson Contreras. I have been putting Wilson Contreras on with
Speaker 1: the Astros for the last couple of weeks. I think
Speaker 1: maybe pedro Leone would make sense, even though I know
Speaker 1: it's a rental. The Guardians have inquired about Sean Murphy.
Speaker 1: The A's are making him available. They're making all the
Speaker 1: guys available, and the Phillies are interested in Ramon Lariano.
Speaker 1: So the A's are going to have a complete, just
Speaker 1: decimation of their roster. Do you expect any surprises? Just
Speaker 1: real quick at the trade ladline, do you think we're
Speaker 1: going to see anything nuts and crazy? As someone we
Speaker 1: haven't been talking about. My biggest crazy suggestion has been,
Speaker 1: if Juan Soto gets traded today on Monday, I expect
Speaker 1: Shohiel Tani to be traded on Tuesday. If it comes
Speaker 1: down to the wire, I'm gonna kind of put it
Speaker 1: as a fifty to fifty. But it's just my little
Speaker 1: prediction is if Soto has moved on Monday, Otani has
Speaker 1: moved on Tuesday. I don't know if that's that much
Speaker 1: of a shock. But Mike, do you expect any shocks
Speaker 1: in the next thirty hours?
Speaker 3: I think if there's to be one, it's gonna it's
Speaker 3: kind of a cop out because I have a hard
Speaker 3: time giving a true name, but I would I would
Speaker 3: think it could be a guy that was signed to
Speaker 3: a deal that people maybe we're surprised the deal happened.
Speaker 3: Like a hobby Baye is habby Baya is for for
Speaker 3: the Tigers, a team that doesn't similar they're going to
Speaker 3: be competing in the near future, although maybe they think
Speaker 3: their window might be next year the year after. Maybe
Speaker 3: they realized because they've already talked about pretty much everyone
Speaker 3: being on the table. Maybe Hobby Bias is like one
Speaker 3: of those guys that's like, well, you know what, maybe
Speaker 3: this was a mistake. Let's see if we can salvage
Speaker 3: this and see if the team team will take them on.
Speaker 2: Maybe I doubt Chris Bryant.
Speaker 3: But maybe that's the type of thing, like maybe one
Speaker 3: of these guys, if Trevor Story was healthy with the
Speaker 3: Red Sox kind of leaning towards being buyers and sellers.
Speaker 3: The reports say both, and that they never mentioned Story
Speaker 3: being safe. They've mentioned, you know, Bogarts by name, at
Speaker 3: least I haven't seen their reports, but they've mentioned Bogart's
Speaker 3: by name and others by name, Dev's they are safe.
Speaker 3: So it's like maybe one of these offseason signings that
Speaker 3: were surprising in the first place, Marcus Stroman, guys that
Speaker 3: were on teams that like, okay, this is weird that
Speaker 3: they made these signings become trade bait for these teams
Speaker 3: all of a sudden.
Speaker 1: Maybe by goes back to the Mets something to throw.
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, they rEFInd him there, Dan, this is
Speaker 1: actually a good question. Well, the trades trade away a catcher,
Speaker 1: they should. I think Danny Jansen should be someone they're
Speaker 1: putting out on the market who would make a ton
Speaker 1: of sense. Bring Gabriel moreno back up to go with
Speaker 1: Ali hndro Kirk. Trade from your strengths as much as
Speaker 1: possible to fix some of those weaknesses. Because the Blue
Speaker 1: Jas are not really tied with anybody, So that's actually
Speaker 1: a really good question. I think they should. Finishing up
Speaker 1: the headlines, Aaron Judge continues to be the biggest beast
Speaker 1: on the planet. His I was saying this yesterday. His
Speaker 1: stats through July thirty first, our stats for an entire
Speaker 1: season that every single player would kill for and we'd
Speaker 1: get them all the money in the world. Judge homer
Speaker 1: three times over the weekend, now up to forty two,
Speaker 1: which is ten below his career high set in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: And here is a marker I want to give you
Speaker 1: as well. Aaron Judge has more homers than any single
Speaker 1: person in our home run contest. And we've had the season.
Speaker 1: Every single day of baseball, we have been able to
Speaker 1: make picks on these guys and Aaron Judge has more
Speaker 1: homers in real life than we could just picking players
Speaker 1: every single day. That's pretty fun. And then then lastly
Speaker 1: Clay Holmes blew a save, giving up a three run
Speaker 1: homer to South President the ninth as they lost eight
Speaker 1: to six, and my dreams and hopes of Clay Holmes
Speaker 1: being the closer down the drain some injuries. Chris Bryant
Speaker 1: left Saturday's game with foot pain. Curly, I'm out on
Speaker 1: Chris Bryan. I've been saying, I'm pretty far out on
Speaker 1: Chris Bryant. Do you have hopes of salvaging the rest
Speaker 1: of this season for him? Which has just been really
Speaker 1: about a month he's had about a month that worked.
Speaker 1: All of his homers I think came in the month
Speaker 1: of July, if I remember correctly. Do you have any
Speaker 1: hopes on the back half of this year?
Speaker 3: I did until I think reports came out that he's
Speaker 3: been dealing with like planter fasciitis over the like of
Speaker 3: late I think since the All Star break or so.
Speaker 2: I remember reading about it yesterday and dealing with that.
Speaker 3: You know how that can be for athletes in general,
Speaker 3: doesn't matter the sport, and that could hinder his progress
Speaker 3: the rest of the year, and I was really hopef
Speaker 3: But you know what this reminds me of. It's the
Speaker 3: whole Daniel Murphy deal, like twenty nineteen and wherever it
Speaker 3: was when Murphy went over to the Rockies, the.
Speaker 2: Hype build the hype built up.
Speaker 3: It was a similar skill set in terms of being
Speaker 3: like a really solid bat just going to Coors again,
Speaker 3: a chance to really exploit course for what it was,
Speaker 3: and injuries derailed them. Age Duriel Murphy obviously not a
Speaker 3: direct comp but it was one of those things where
Speaker 3: it's like I bought in preseason. I was like, all right, cool,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna jump his adp up. I got him in
Speaker 3: a few spots. I was really happy, and then early
Speaker 3: drafts I was even happier. I was like, sweet, I
Speaker 3: got him at the discount. I was happy to take
Speaker 3: them near a pick like eighty ish. I think it
Speaker 3: was early on and because just because the skill set,
Speaker 3: But ultimately it's me trying to justify why I took
Speaker 3: him early. Well, at the end of the day, it
Speaker 3: seems like it feels like a busted pick, and I
Speaker 3: don't seem much.
Speaker 1: Do you think he's a sell like at all costs
Speaker 1: type of thing, because I think obviously it's a sell,
Speaker 1: but you get trade deadlines happening. I just had a
Speaker 1: trade deadline end in the Scott White League that I
Speaker 1: play in. But some are going to go through. I
Speaker 1: think some standards on a lot of side of like
Speaker 1: August thirteenth, I want to say, right in that range
Speaker 1: is like a general fantasy trade deadline. If you had
Speaker 1: a team poking around want to take a shot, is
Speaker 1: there a low that you wouldn't take on Chris Bryant
Speaker 1: at this point.
Speaker 3: I would I'd be willing to. I definitely redraft. I'd
Speaker 3: be looking to sell for sure. Dynasty, I'd actually if
Speaker 3: you're a contender or if your windows next year, I
Speaker 3: think he's a great buy if you can right now,
Speaker 3: because I do think the value is dropping even though
Speaker 3: we know a healthy Chris Bryant can be pretty solid,
Speaker 3: and I do think he'll get right in the offseason,
Speaker 3: and you know, Chris Bryant has these moments of like
Speaker 3: being injured, playing well, but maybe he'll miss some time
Speaker 3: next year or whatever. Dynasty lees, I think he's more
Speaker 3: of a bye redraft.
Speaker 2: That's tough.
Speaker 3: I think I would obviously at this point, if someone's
Speaker 3: willing to give me anything that can help my team,
Speaker 3: I would probably sell. I'd be willing to sell seventy
Speaker 3: five per cents on the dollar type of deal probably
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 1: I think so Zark is a trade for Chris Bryant
Speaker 1: threw weeks ago. It wasn't too much better. I really
Speaker 1: really do Bobby Witt. The day after Julio Rodriguez was
Speaker 1: hit on the wrist, which I want to point out
Speaker 1: around the hand. Scott Bogman was at that game and
Speaker 1: I told him for for handcock rules, he's no longer
Speaker 1: around him because he hurt him. The day after, Bobby
Speaker 1: Wit Junior was sidelined after getting hit on the hand
Speaker 1: by a pitch. No xt rays have been done as
Speaker 1: of yet, which is probably a good sign. Not so
Speaker 1: great for Hulia Rodriguez though the X rays were negative.
Speaker 1: He had some swelling and they put him on the
Speaker 1: EL so he's on the IL for a tiny bit.
Speaker 1: Bobby Wit no necessarily no necessary sign of it yet.
Speaker 1: Miguel Sino back to his home, which is the IL
Speaker 1: on Friday with knee issues. He just lives there and
Speaker 1: Key Brian Hayes, Eric cosmer Typrance, Tyler O'Neill, all considered
Speaker 1: day to day with various injuries across the board. Here's
Speaker 1: a fun fact getting back to the top of the show.
Speaker 1: This is an amazing one too, and this is kudos
Speaker 1: Towonke for putting this on Red's pitcher. Luis Castillo is
Speaker 1: one of just seven pitchers to enter the All Star
Speaker 1: Break with an ERA under two eight and no more
Speaker 1: than three wins with at least thirteen starts on here
Speaker 1: the others? Are you ready for the others? Here? Clayton
Speaker 1: Kershaw twenty eighteen, Jeff Samarga fourteen, by Lecky in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety two, Steve Carlton in nineteen eighty five, Swan in
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight, and Phoebus in nineteen seventy. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's Phoebus, like a little phoenix in there.
Speaker 1: Those are the names. There hasn't been anybody since twenty
Speaker 1: eighteen and since two and since two thousand there's only
Speaker 1: been two Jeff Samarga and Clayton Kershaw. The undervalue of
Speaker 1: potential wins is mind blowing on Luis Castillo. That is
Speaker 1: why you hit home like this is a huge plus
Speaker 1: for him being in Seattle. This is a huge potential
Speaker 1: plus on wins. Let's get Julio Rodriguez back. Though it
Speaker 1: might be the most important thing of all of those
Speaker 1: this day in baseball, I thought this was just interesting,
Speaker 1: though not like fascinating. Nineteen forty three Rip Suol of
Speaker 1: the Pirates throws his do drop ball in a game.
Speaker 1: Souel loops the ball eighteen to twenty feet high on
Speaker 1: its way to the strike zone. Later it's called a
Speaker 1: blooper or an ethis ball. The pitch is more than
Speaker 1: a gag and Soul is on his way to a
Speaker 1: twenty win season. But an eighteen to twenty foot dip
Speaker 1: that's like curveball stuff, Curlin like I love, I love
Speaker 1: the idea of that. That is actually one of my
Speaker 1: only things I think I really really love about old
Speaker 1: old time baseball. I don't have the tradition like a
Speaker 1: lot of other people with most of this stuff, but
Speaker 1: like weird just wind ups and just video game like
Speaker 1: backyard type of throws. It is one of my favorite things.
Speaker 1: Like I get really locked into you know those Instagram
Speaker 1: videos of like, hey, this is the best game to
Speaker 1: play and it's like that whiffle ball game, but the
Speaker 1: ball like curves and they got I'm such a sucker
Speaker 1: for that. Like those type of video game things are
Speaker 1: my favorite thing on the planet. Just goofy looking pitches, and.
Speaker 3: Every so often we actually get pictures at the major
Speaker 3: league level it looks like those whiffleball pitches, Like that's
Speaker 3: the maze sink two seamer sinker. Everyone call it his
Speaker 3: that frisbee. It's more difficult than it is whiffable. I
Speaker 3: think I saw shout out to and someone put that
Speaker 3: was like word for word. Ryan Nancy on Twitter tweeted that.
Speaker 3: I was like, that's very true. We're about to see
Speaker 3: all these gifts of them. But he doesn't usually miss
Speaker 3: a lot of bats with it. But yeah, it's fun though,
Speaker 3: because MLB pitchers, man, they've really and coaches obviously really
Speaker 3: figured out how to make a baseball moving ways that
Speaker 3: I never thought i'd see the day that they do that,
Speaker 3: you know you're going as fast as they are.
Speaker 1: Who has the most giveable pitch in baseball? Because you
Speaker 1: just bring up a really interesting thing to me, I
Speaker 1: would say, Dustin May is that two seamer. Emmanuel Clasi's
Speaker 1: cutter has got to be in there. That one pitch
Speaker 1: by Aaron Ashby, which I think was a two seamer
Speaker 1: that won this year, that went like whoop, like right
Speaker 1: out was on there. I don't know if I think
Speaker 1: of any breaking pitches though, a really good knuckling curveball.
Speaker 3: Is there a good change up like with with good
Speaker 3: fade away from like last year already?
Speaker 1: Like okay, but can you think like I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: you think someone Yeah, like I'm talking like a specific
Speaker 1: pitch from Devin Williams. Oh, Devin Williams his uh whatever
Speaker 1: you call it, the terminator or whatever. Yeah, okay, so
Speaker 1: this would be such a great pull Devin Williams whatever
Speaker 1: the pitch is, dominator, Emmanuel Classe's cutter or Dustin May's
Speaker 1: two seamer which people probably forget about. And that's what
Speaker 1: Brad and Brad's right here immediately went Devin Williams, change up.
Speaker 1: I'm curious that the chat. If you guys have any others,
Speaker 1: tell me who's the most gifable pitch and pitcher the
Speaker 1: pitcher with their pitch I would love I would love
Speaker 1: to know, because the Devin Williams is a really really
Speaker 1: good one. Manuel Classe is the first person that came
Speaker 1: to my mind when I thought about that. Let's go
Speaker 1: through some stat heroes on the weekend. Jaco to Rizzy.
Speaker 1: How often do you say Jaycotrizzy is a stat hero
Speaker 1: seven innings, eight strikeouts, giving up only two hits for Houston.
Speaker 1: Plante eight with eight strikeouts. Merril Kelly seven innings, eight strikeouts,
Speaker 1: three hits, a couple walks. I think he should be
Speaker 1: a potential trade bait guy. Read debtmer seven innings, twelve strikeouts,
Speaker 1: giving up one and run and Carlos Forradon ten strikeouts
Speaker 1: on seven is read Debt Meer's fixed curling.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everything I'm seeing on Twitter A lot of guys
Speaker 3: that follow pitching way more closely than I do. I'll
Speaker 3: be the first to admit hitting my strength in terms
Speaker 3: of analysis.
Speaker 2: But it looks like it.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: You just look at some of the stuff, the changing
Speaker 3: pitch mix, the changing movement profile and some of the pitches.
Speaker 3: It's it's everyone's talking about it, and I think this
Speaker 3: is the detmos we're all hoping for come, you know,
Speaker 3: when we're all kind of hyping him up preseason type
Speaker 3: of thing, and he's hitting on that potential. Now, what
Speaker 3: will always hold him back in fantasy is obviously the
Speaker 3: lack of two start weeks given the Angels always going
Speaker 3: six man in the rotation, but that could change if
Speaker 3: they do. You mentioned if Otani's on the move, they
Speaker 3: maybe they go five man and Detmvers gains even more value.
Speaker 3: But I do think the Detmors we're seeing now is
Speaker 3: there's something to it. Maybe he won't sustain this level,
Speaker 3: as you know MLB teams adapt, but he is.
Speaker 2: What he's doing seems very real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's a movement command guy. He's not
Speaker 1: a huge, big, crazy blowaway stuff guy, and he's found
Speaker 1: his command. I mean he you know what, Dept. Meer's
Speaker 1: has got some big, old loopy curveball sliders that he throws.
Speaker 1: Some others by the way, that got thrown in here.
Speaker 1: Riley said, brash is slider. That's a great one. That
Speaker 1: is a super gift of a one. Brad said, Seth
Speaker 1: Lugo's curveball. Okay, I'll give you that one, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Let's see I thought I saw, oh, and Walker's right.
Speaker 1: This was the other one that I thought of immediately
Speaker 1: was that was the older school Kershaw twelve to six curveball. Like,
Speaker 1: nothing gets me going. I love crazy wiffleball looking pitches,
Speaker 1: but nothing gets me out of my seat and makes
Speaker 1: me act like a crazy person than a knee buckling
Speaker 1: change up. I'll just oh, you know, it's just like
Speaker 1: a gift. Like the guys are like, oh, like, that's
Speaker 1: what gets me. It happens when I see just a
Speaker 1: knee buckling twelve to six curveball. So I completely agree
Speaker 1: with that one. On the hitter side, Alec Bohm four
Speaker 1: for five this weekend with a homer and RBI. Corey
Speaker 1: Dickerson went three for four with a homer. James Outman
Speaker 1: had a home run in his major league debut. I
Speaker 1: saw him in the Arizona Fall League. I don't know
Speaker 1: if there's a ton Ton there. Him and Large Newbar
Speaker 1: both played together. I thought new Bar was much more
Speaker 1: impressive player. But three for four with a homer, there's
Speaker 1: a little something there. I just don't believe the Dodgers
Speaker 1: would give him enough time. I believe someone asked in
Speaker 1: the chat. Hunter renfro Good four for four with a bomb.
Speaker 1: Anthony Rizzo had a homer with three RBIs. Anthony Santander
Speaker 1: had a homer three for four. Ramon Lariano before he
Speaker 1: gets traded, had a bomb, jerks and pro far Charles
Speaker 1: l Block and Matt Chapman with a homer over the weekend.
Speaker 1: Some stat zeros, I never like to see my boy
Speaker 1: Shae McClanahan in here. But he went four and one third,
Speaker 1: give me up seven hits, five earned runs. He had
Speaker 1: three walks, only five four strikeouts, Pablo Lopez. A lot
Speaker 1: of rumors. Craig mischs had actually you're wearing your Marlins hat.
Speaker 1: Curlin Mish had talked about the last start maybe being
Speaker 1: his last one and had speculated again about him getting traded. Well,
Speaker 1: he got lit two and two thirds, twelve hits, six
Speaker 1: earned runs. What type just quickly Pabolo Lopez getting traded
Speaker 1: and what would a return have to look like? Do
Speaker 1: you think for your Marlins?
Speaker 3: Well, I think the Marlins have what like two or
Speaker 3: three years left of control too, so that that's like
Speaker 3: a big there's gonna be. It's not gonna be obviously
Speaker 3: the level of a Montas or Castillo, but you gotta
Speaker 3: think it's gonna at least bring back a solid like
Speaker 3: at least one solid prospect, one upper top tier prospect,
Speaker 3: from a system and maybe a couple. You know, I
Speaker 3: don't think he's going to bring back like you know what,
Speaker 3: what did Castillo bringing like two.
Speaker 2: Or three other top five prospects back in return?
Speaker 3: I think, I think I think Pablo uh Sandoval, WHOA.
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think Bubo Sanaval would be good in the trade.
Speaker 1: But know what mean, Yeah, Pablo Lopez.
Speaker 3: Sandoval is way better than Pablo Lopez obviously, but Pablo
Speaker 3: Lopez I think would bring back at least one high
Speaker 3: end prospect, maybe a second, depending on what teams get
Speaker 3: involved in, how desperate team gets if they miss out
Speaker 3: in both Castillo and Montas, so that right there, the
Speaker 3: market could right there push itself up. But Lopez is
Speaker 3: a solid real life pitcher as well as fantasy.
Speaker 2: He will give you innings.
Speaker 3: The shoulders always concerned, but it's ull up this year
Speaker 3: and again that those years of control really matter and
Speaker 3: it should bring back quality versus quantity.
Speaker 2: But it's also the Marlins. I don't know what to
Speaker 2: expect anymore.
Speaker 3: They don't exactly develop hitting well either, So I'm optimistically
Speaker 3: they get some hitting prospects, but they haven't been able
Speaker 3: to develop the hitting.
Speaker 2: The best over the years. So I don't know how
Speaker 2: much yeasty to.
Speaker 1: Me to cut you off. I feel like the Yankees
Speaker 1: are the key for them. Yankees are trying to move
Speaker 1: all to Oswell Praza and a lot of trades. No
Speaker 1: one will take that Oswal Praza for Pablo Lopez would
Speaker 1: just make all the sense in the world. But you
Speaker 1: know him getting lit up could always theoretically hurt the
Speaker 1: trade value.
Speaker 3: J D.
Speaker 1: Brewbaker, I'll give up seven earned runs as well. On
Speaker 1: the hitting side, of course, I took a Goldie weekend.
Speaker 1: He went over five for three strikeouts. Hear me, Cole Calhoun,
Speaker 1: oh for three three strikeouts, Hilliard and Andrews both with
Speaker 1: three k's as well. Friendos Oh, you know what, I
Speaker 1: didn't even look if they're everyone's going to be so
Speaker 1: mad if there's a brand new board, and I don't
Speaker 1: think there is so Unfortunately, I can't give you guys
Speaker 1: good news that there's a brand new home run board.
Speaker 1: But we have the same We have the exact same winner.
Speaker 1: Things have not changed. But the night King of the
Speaker 1: North is mounting a comeback, as he had a Kyle
Speaker 1: schwarber Baum over the weekend got him up to thirty five,
Speaker 1: so high Cubby twenty sixteen still has thirty seven. Night
Speaker 1: King North has thirty five, and we got it. Let's
Speaker 1: see Eskyl and de Blum at thirty four, and then
Speaker 1: the crew just kind of moves down. Mike Mayer is
Speaker 1: still on the list, so apologies. I'll see if we
Speaker 1: can get the home run board back here into the
Speaker 1: near future so you guys can see that. But we
Speaker 1: still got our main guy, and they do not have
Speaker 1: as many homers as Aaron Judge. They're missing by five
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Speaker 1: gonna for the foreseeable future. I'm gonna give you the
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna give you two. I like the top
Speaker 1: prop over at the as Joe would say, the sugar
Speaker 1: house is Jordan Alvarez. Jordan Alvarez total bases versus Boston
Speaker 1: Fantasy Pros hasn't projected at almost four and you get
Speaker 1: plus money at one and a half. That's a pretty
Speaker 1: good bet plus money one oh five. The top strikeout
Speaker 1: prop is Andrew Heeney under last week man four and
Speaker 1: a half. I took it. He was on a pitch count,
Speaker 1: he got to four. He would have destroyed it if
Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna only throw sixty pitches. They're projecting five.
Speaker 1: The number is six and a half on fan duel
Speaker 1: and that is the un or. It's pretty juice stuff though.
Speaker 1: The two players I like Drake's Scooble strikeouts those are
Speaker 1: at five and a half minus one fifteen. And this
Speaker 1: is probably my favorite bed of the day is Starling
Speaker 1: Marte total bases minus one oh five. It's almost even money.
Speaker 1: It's against Patrick Corbin. I believe in the month of July,
Speaker 1: Starling Marte had eleven multi hit games multi hit games,
Speaker 1: So the odds are in his favor, and they really
Speaker 1: always are whenever Patrick Corbin is on the slate. Couple
Speaker 1: DFS stuff. You know, Joe's huge on the DFS side.
Speaker 1: On DK A couple pitchers, I might want to take
Speaker 1: a look at Susier is gonna be your big play.
Speaker 1: He's ten point six. Drake Scouble I like the strikeouts.
Speaker 1: I believe it's Minnesota and he's eight thousand. I think
Speaker 1: that would be a really great pairing that you could
Speaker 1: put together over on FanDuel A couple pitching prices eleven
Speaker 1: point six for Sersier, John Gray is at ten and
Speaker 1: Scooble is nine point eight. If you're looking to get
Speaker 1: some stacks together, Mets, Mets meet, the Mets meet, the
Speaker 1: Mets gonna hit up Patrick Corbin, and then I can't
Speaker 1: say other, you know, inappropriate things about Patrick corbyan that
Speaker 1: would happen there Mets. I would stack them Guardians and
Speaker 1: White Sox would be my three stacks. Those are also
Speaker 1: very heavy on implied run totals today if you want
Speaker 1: to tag those teams. Mister Kurlin, we have a home
Speaker 1: run contest. You have not been here all season, so
Speaker 1: I can't necessarily annoint that this would be worth forty points.
Speaker 1: So you're immediately in the discussion. But please give us
Speaker 1: your home run call for the day. Put our people
Speaker 1: in a good position. Who do you got You're muted?
Speaker 3: You're muted, of course, I am. I had to do
Speaker 3: one rookie mistake before this show ended.
Speaker 1: Ninety five percent of the show in you were nailing it.
Speaker 1: You were perfect. Nothing, you were This is the last thing.
Speaker 1: This is the last thing.
Speaker 3: I love it, all right, what's you that's sleepy ca
Speaker 3: coming out right there?
Speaker 2: It's the obvious, it's it has to be done.
Speaker 3: But I mean, you're talking about a guy who's coming
Speaker 3: off a weekend they just had, having his career year,
Speaker 3: gonna get signed to a massive contract, and it has
Speaker 3: to be Aaron Judge, right. I mean, he has a
Speaker 3: nine to fifty one ohps against lefties. He's gets to
Speaker 3: face Mark Gonzalez, which you know, soft tossing lefty.
Speaker 2: As as we all know, like it's it just makes sense.
Speaker 2: I don't see how.
Speaker 3: No one's slowing him down right now, and one thing
Speaker 3: that's gonna slow him down is not playing tonight.
Speaker 2: So I got you gotta go with the obvious at this.
Speaker 1: Point, Yeah, Brad's ass. Does Judge have a shot at
Speaker 1: the record? Bonds had forty five homers at the end
Speaker 1: of July in two thousand and one. We're not that
Speaker 1: far off, my friend, we are not that far off.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Pete Anzo. I'm gonna go against
Speaker 1: Patrick Corbin. Give me big bombs on Pete Alonzo. I'd
Speaker 1: be comfortable with a total base marker in him as well,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go with the leadoff guy. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with the guy at the top of the lineup
Speaker 1: with the New York Mets against Patrick Corbyn. But I
Speaker 1: am super super comfortable with Pete Alonzo in both of
Speaker 1: those and he will be my home run call. I
Speaker 1: know Joe has Aaron Judge in perpetuity. I see. I
Speaker 1: don't think Mayer updated that, so we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: It'll just be me and the guests that's going on,
Speaker 1: and I just jinxed it. Maybe I did that is it?
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Speaker 1: which what is that.
Speaker 3: Again, patreon dot com slash skplaybook. That's where you can
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